Speaker 1: Hey there, folks.
Speaker 2: It is Thursday, April second, and President Trump made a
Speaker 2: major primetime address updating us all on the war in
Speaker 2: Iran last night. You might have missed it if you
Speaker 2: didn't stay up late. So how did the speech go?
Speaker 2: This tells you everything you need to know. Oil prices
Speaker 2: shot up, stock market shot down, and with that, welcome
Speaker 2: to this episode of Amy and TJ.
Speaker 1: Robes. That's been the routine. Now. The president speaks, and.
Speaker 2: Then you go look at oil prices and you go
Speaker 2: look at the stock market, and one is going to
Speaker 2: go up, one is going to go down, and that
Speaker 2: lets you know essentially what he said.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But the interesting thing is, normally, when he had said,
Speaker 4: at least previously, when he had said the war was
Speaker 4: almost over, we were wrapping things up, we saw the
Speaker 4: markets shoot up, oil prices go down. This time when
Speaker 4: he said kind of the same thing without any real
Speaker 4: specifics or verification, Yeah, they did the opposite.
Speaker 2: It's look that this has been the game almost daily.
Speaker 2: Robes is back and forth and look, we stayed up
Speaker 2: late watch the speech, and we're wondering how it was
Speaker 2: going to be received. We know how we received it,
Speaker 2: but it is an indication Robes oil prices went up
Speaker 2: six percent.
Speaker 1: After his speech. They're over around one hundred and six dollars.
Speaker 2: I believe stock markets all over the world as we're
Speaker 2: recording this have gone down, in particular Asian markets are
Speaker 2: down and stock futures in the US are down.
Speaker 1: Why Robes.
Speaker 2: The reason is people are looking for a way out
Speaker 2: and thought this thing was wrapping up, and he was
Speaker 2: pretty vague if you will about that timeline.
Speaker 4: Wouldn't you say that trust is down? Because what's what's
Speaker 4: important is when the president speaks, you believe him. When
Speaker 4: the president says something is so, it must be. This
Speaker 4: has been proven to not be the case. And so
Speaker 4: now when the president says something, unless he has verification,
Speaker 4: unless he has proof, unless he has specifics, no one
Speaker 4: is necessarily taking him at his word.
Speaker 3: And to that point, most.
Speaker 4: Folks are now looking at what he didn't say, trying
Speaker 4: to read between the lines to figure out where the
Speaker 4: truth lies.
Speaker 3: And that's a big problem.
Speaker 4: For Americans, for the world, for the markets. This is
Speaker 4: due territory. It's hard to imagine where at a place
Speaker 4: where we need receipts, we need proof from our president.
Speaker 4: What he's saying is happening is in fact happening.
Speaker 2: It was a famous Reagan line, right, trust but verify.
Speaker 2: He was talking about a Russian leader when he said that,
Speaker 2: trust but verify. So the speech last night, it was
Speaker 2: built as a big one nine o'clock. He got prime
Speaker 2: time coverage last evening, And to your point, Robes, we're
Speaker 2: going to go through the major takeaways from the speech
Speaker 2: based on what he said, Robes, let's start at the
Speaker 2: top here. Isn't the number one thing from this speech
Speaker 2: what he did not say.
Speaker 4: Yes, because it was a departure from what we've been
Speaker 4: hearing him say time and time again over the last
Speaker 4: several days, saying that negotiations were going on between Iran
Speaker 4: and the United States. They were begging for us to
Speaker 4: stop firing our missiles, they were begging for a cease fire,
Speaker 4: they had agreed to our fifteen point plan. Iran had
Speaker 4: said that they would stop enriching weapons, greed, uranium.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all of that. He said all of.
Speaker 4: Those things repeatedly and often, and yet in his speech
Speaker 4: last night he said nothing about negotiations, whether or not
Speaker 4: they had happened, whether or not they were ongoing, and
Speaker 4: least of which that they were successful.
Speaker 2: Passing mention. This has been talked about Robes for several days.
Speaker 2: He even moved a deadline because he said negotiations were
Speaker 2: going well. At various times the past several days, they
Speaker 2: have said, yeah, we're talking to this guy, well, yeah,
Speaker 2: we talked to some people, were talking to somebody. Yeah,
Speaker 2: this guy seems like he's in George, and then they
Speaker 2: would never say exactly who they were talking.
Speaker 3: Out of the safety of the people they were talking to.
Speaker 2: We don't want him to get killed by us. We're
Speaker 2: with one shooting anyway. Fine, but a lot of people said,
Speaker 2: what the hell, and the whole time he's.
Speaker 1: Doing this wrong.
Speaker 2: Iran has been putting out statement after statement after statements
Speaker 2: saying ain't no negotiations going on. So yesterday before the speech,
Speaker 2: he said, the president of Iran, we've been talking to him.
Speaker 1: He wants a ceasefire. What hey, look, Iranians used they
Speaker 1: use X.
Speaker 2: They responded to that so fast as baseless and false
Speaker 2: to suggest that we want to cease fire and that
Speaker 2: negotiations are going on. Robes, we have the leaders of
Speaker 2: two different countries saying exactly opposite things about what's happening
Speaker 2: in the background. Now the next question, who do you believe.
Speaker 2: Surely we would normally say, well, of course, the president
Speaker 2: of the United States.
Speaker 1: I guess we should do that. We're supposed to we should.
Speaker 2: Where is the proof, for the evidence of any kind
Speaker 2: that this is happening? Now, even if Iran was denying it, Robes,
Speaker 2: you turned the United States and they would say, yes,
Speaker 2: we've been talking to this guy. We understand the statements
Speaker 2: they're putting out, but we assure you that it we're
Speaker 2: not hearing that. We're just saying, eh, maybe somethings and some possibilities.
Speaker 4: And not only are we not hearing that, but then
Speaker 4: last night, when he had the opportunity, when he had
Speaker 4: the eyes of the nation, the eyes of the world
Speaker 4: on him twenty minutes uninterrupted, can say whatever he wants,
Speaker 4: he didn't mention it. That is notable. That is a
Speaker 4: deliberate omission. He knows that that has been his big
Speaker 4: I mean, he's been saying that this is why the
Speaker 4: war is nearly over, because we have obliterated that, because
Speaker 4: they are begging for mercy. And yet we heard nothing
Speaker 4: about negotiations last night.
Speaker 2: And so worldes is difficult when we keep hearing the
Speaker 2: wars winding down and that we have one. He literally
Speaker 2: said this more than a week ago. We have won.
Speaker 2: That encourages markets, investors.
Speaker 1: The public.
Speaker 2: But then he goes in last night and talking about
Speaker 2: we have this left to do. We're gonna hit them harder,
Speaker 2: We're going to blow him back to the stone Age,
Speaker 2: and we had this passing mention of negotiations quote, We're
Speaker 2: going to hit them extremely hard.
Speaker 1: Over the next two to three weeks.
Speaker 2: We're going to bring them back to the stone ages
Speaker 2: where they belong. In the meantime, discussions are ongoing.
Speaker 3: That's all he said.
Speaker 2: And he didn't say negotiations. Discussions could be with your
Speaker 2: own staff. He look words. We do this all teign ropes.
Speaker 2: We see pr statements, what they choose words for a
Speaker 2: particular reason. Discussions are ongoing. If that was in a
Speaker 2: press conference, your arm would have gone up. Who you're
Speaker 2: talking to?
Speaker 1: What do you mean? What's happening? We didn't get that match.
Speaker 4: And when we do have reporters actually follow up and
Speaker 4: ask those specifics, we don't get any and we are
Speaker 4: told it's out of security concerns, we can't give you
Speaker 4: that information because we want to make sure we ensure
Speaker 4: the safety of the folks we're talking to, And to
Speaker 4: your point, what sense does that make.
Speaker 3: We're the ones who are firing the missiles. We are
Speaker 3: the ones who are.
Speaker 4: Reportedly trying to take out leadership, So why would we
Speaker 4: take out somebody we're negotiating with. We're the so I
Speaker 4: get the enemy of Iran in that sense. So who
Speaker 4: else are they fearful that their own people or people
Speaker 4: within Iran could target that person knowing they're negotiating.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's with Americans the other possible No.
Speaker 2: Because he get called then yeahoo up and said don't
Speaker 2: kill the guy we're Yeah, So I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: But if it's so dangerous that you can't ensure the
Speaker 4: safety of the person you're negotiating with from people in
Speaker 4: his own country, what does that tell you? What what
Speaker 4: type of leadership could that possibly even ensure going forward?
Speaker 2: What's the word he keeps using about the folks he's
Speaker 2: talking to, you reasonable? They're more reasonable than the previous regime.
Speaker 3: So it's the third group of people who are unnamed
Speaker 3: and unknown to anyone.
Speaker 2: That is actually accurate right now. So there's arguments about
Speaker 2: the regime roads. We keep hearing about regime change regime change.
Speaker 2: They say the regime has changed. There are other experts
Speaker 2: out there that would tell you, no, you just killed
Speaker 2: a couple of leaders of the regime.
Speaker 1: It's the same regime. They just playing. Was it musical chairs?
Speaker 3: Correct?
Speaker 2: Right now? To see who was the leader. But this
Speaker 2: happened last night, nine o'clock. He came out right on time.
Speaker 2: He started at the top, and I guess this should
Speaker 2: have been expected. But that was a pretty big victory
Speaker 2: yesterday for the United States. Artemis was cool to see
Speaker 2: and he did make comments off the top of a look.
Speaker 4: It was much needed enjoyment, excitement, and just a feeling
Speaker 4: of pride that has been long missing. I believe in
Speaker 4: this country for quite some time. And so yes to
Speaker 4: see Americans and a Canadian blast off into space on
Speaker 4: a spacecraft that has never been manned before or sorry,
Speaker 4: crewde before, and we'll be going further into space than
Speaker 4: has ever we've ever seen humans go before. This is
Speaker 4: all very exciting, cool stuff and leading to a larger
Speaker 4: mission on.
Speaker 3: The Moon where we're potentially going to have a base
Speaker 3: on the Moon.
Speaker 4: This is all really cool stuff that should be exciting
Speaker 4: and should be celebrated. And yes, the President did acknowledge it,
Speaker 4: because that was the one bright spot.
Speaker 1: Yes, and then well it went all downhill from there.
Speaker 2: No, it was about a twenty minute speech came out
Speaker 2: the red tie. He was standing at a podium by
Speaker 2: himself in this room. It seemed like early at the
Speaker 2: top he might have been not maybe with staff.
Speaker 1: I don't know when he.
Speaker 3: Said thank you. That was weird. He started off.
Speaker 4: He walks up to the podium in dramatic fashion and
Speaker 4: begins to speech with thank you.
Speaker 2: So it might have been some people in the room
Speaker 2: he was acknowledging or something. Not sure exactly what that was.
Speaker 2: But yes, the major takeaways here we talked about the
Speaker 2: thing he didn't say. Something else that was major here
Speaker 2: we'll get into is that he is pleading with you Americans,
Speaker 2: for your patients and for you to keep some perspective
Speaker 2: in this war. And he also made a mention of
Speaker 2: oil and that we don't need theirs. We'll get into that,
Speaker 2: but the plea to Americans ropes. He's trying here. He
Speaker 2: was asked a question in the he kind of got
Speaker 2: into a little back and forth with a reporter in
Speaker 2: the Oval office. I think it was yesterday who kept
Speaker 2: trying to ask about gas prices and oil part prices,
Speaker 2: and his clap back was.
Speaker 1: You're safer, aren't you. Yeah, deal with the gas prices.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they'll come back down.
Speaker 4: Small price to pay for being safer because you don't
Speaker 4: have a nuclear bomb being lobbed at you, or you
Speaker 4: don't have incoming ballistic missiles from Iran, so you can
Speaker 4: sleep safely at night. I think you can handle paying
Speaker 4: a little more at the pump.
Speaker 2: It was a little condescend, you know. It didn't sympathize
Speaker 2: at all with what Americans might be going through. He
Speaker 2: just said, yeah, pay for gas. I'm making you safer.
Speaker 2: But he did go a little farther ropes in his
Speaker 2: comment last night, pleading with Americans and going through and
Speaker 2: listing other major wars and essentially comparing the timelines of
Speaker 2: those wars to the timeline so far of the war
Speaker 2: in Iran.
Speaker 4: Yes, so he went on to say this, it is
Speaker 4: very important that we keep this conflict in perspective. American
Speaker 4: involvement and World War One lasted one year, seven months
Speaker 4: and five days. World War two lasted for three years,
Speaker 4: eight months and twenty five days. The Korean War lasted
Speaker 4: for three years, one month, and two days. The Vietnam
Speaker 4: War lasted for nineteen years, five months and twenty nine days.
Speaker 4: The Iraq War went on for eight years, eight months,
Speaker 4: twenty eight days. You see what he's doing here, obviously
Speaker 4: creating the perspective, y'all are being impatient. You want results,
Speaker 4: And it's only been a matter of days, he says.
Speaker 4: We are in this military operation, so powerful, so brilliant,
Speaker 4: against one of the most powerful countries for thirty two days,
Speaker 4: and the country has been eviscerated and is essentially.
Speaker 3: Really no longer a threat.
Speaker 4: They were the bully of the Middle East, but they're
Speaker 4: the bully no longer. This is a true investment in
Speaker 4: your children and your grandchildren's future.
Speaker 1: Does that land?
Speaker 2: Does that land in making a case to people right
Speaker 2: now who are dealing with airports, dealing with gas prices,
Speaker 2: dealing with an increase and prices of all kinds of
Speaker 2: stuff and uncertainty?
Speaker 1: Does that? Is that a good pitch?
Speaker 4: It would be if Americans believe that Iran was an
Speaker 4: imminent threat. And I think there is the problem for
Speaker 4: the president in that most people did not walk around,
Speaker 4: did not feel on a daily basis that somehow our safety,
Speaker 4: our security as a nation was under threat by Iran,
Speaker 4: so we're supposed to believe him when he tells us
Speaker 4: that they were about to be able to strike the homeland.
Speaker 1: That's the thing.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of Americans most were willing to listen, Okay,
Speaker 2: we're going to we'll right now.
Speaker 1: Why did we have to do this?
Speaker 2: And I think Robes and immediately twenty four forty eight
Speaker 2: seventy two hours afterwards, we were hearing from so very
Speaker 2: many different members of the administration, and we didn't get
Speaker 2: real clarity on what we were doing, why we were
Speaker 2: doing it. And you remember, they're going to have a
Speaker 2: nuclear weapon within days if we didn't strike.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen that.
Speaker 4: Yet after we obliterated their nuclear capabilities months earlier this
Speaker 4: past summer.
Speaker 3: So there's the problem.
Speaker 4: When you tell us one thing and then six months
Speaker 4: later tell us a completely other thing to justify a war.
Speaker 3: We weren't even anticipating.
Speaker 2: You got a problem, and Americans aren't stupid, Robes. When
Speaker 2: you say a line like that Iran is essentially really
Speaker 2: no longer younger a threat, then what are we doing
Speaker 2: for the next two or three weeks?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and what about all those caveats? Essentially really, yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, look that matters. Words matter.
Speaker 4: He is couching everything he's saying with adverbs or whatever
Speaker 4: descriptives that contradict certainty.
Speaker 2: Well, you say it like that generally for the most part,
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean kind of sort of. I mean,
Speaker 2: he's using kind of language like that when it comes
Speaker 2: to war. But he's telling us that they're no longer
Speaker 2: a threat. We hear that, and that Robes is supposed
Speaker 2: to be encouraging for Yes, investors and Americans, but he
Speaker 2: tells us they're no longer a threat two or three weeks,
Speaker 2: two or three weeks. He's telling us all to get
Speaker 2: buckled in and this war is going to go another
Speaker 2: two or three weeks. Nobody liked hearing that yesterday, Robes,
Speaker 2: because we've heard this, have we not from day one?
Speaker 2: You should wrap this up in a week or so?
Speaker 2: Eh two or three weeks. We've heard these numbers and
Speaker 2: these timelines.
Speaker 4: It feels like after the first day we were told
Speaker 4: everything was gone, the navy was obliterated, the army gone,
Speaker 4: the regime completely murdered, killed everyone, like it was as
Speaker 4: if everything was wiped out and mission accomplished. He didn't
Speaker 4: say that, obviously, but but in so many different ways.
Speaker 4: He has been saying that we've won from almost the
Speaker 4: first day he used that word.
Speaker 2: He said, we won, So, yeah, mission accomplished. He didn't
Speaker 2: have a banner up behind him. Sure, maybe everybody's learned
Speaker 2: that lesson, but he said we've won, and it had
Speaker 2: the same impact. He might as well have had the banner, Babe,
Speaker 2: He might as well have been on an aircraft carrier.
Speaker 2: Because we listened to the president's say we have one
Speaker 2: a war that has continued weeks after he said we
Speaker 2: want it, and it still doesn't look like we have
Speaker 2: a good way out of it. So, like I said, folks,
Speaker 2: don't just listen to us. Oil prices went up, stock
Speaker 2: prices went down. But stay here. He made two other
Speaker 2: comments that really got attention, one of them having to
Speaker 2: do with oil, saying the US doesn't even need your oil.
Speaker 2: We got plenty. That didn't sit well with a lot
Speaker 2: of folks. And you remember that deadline, Well it's coming
Speaker 2: up on April sixth, a deadline that if they don't
Speaker 2: open the straight or her moves, we will blow them
Speaker 2: to smithereens. Well, didn't hear anything about that last night?
Speaker 2: All right, continue here, on Amy and TJ a late
Speaker 2: night a lot of people might not have stayed up
Speaker 2: and seeing the Prime Time addressed from the President but
Speaker 2: addressing the war in Iran, letting us know where things are,
Speaker 2: and Ropes said, two or three weeks coming up on
Speaker 2: Monday is a deadline that he set saying if we
Speaker 2: don't have a deal by April sixth, then I will
Speaker 2: blow up your energy infrastructure and your main energy power,
Speaker 2: all this stuff.
Speaker 1: Didn't hear a word about it last night.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you said a deadline, he said a deadline.
Speaker 3: He's pushed back twice.
Speaker 4: So he gave them what was at forty eight hours.
Speaker 4: Initially that it was five days, then it was ten days.
Speaker 4: So he's literally pushed the goalpost back two times.
Speaker 3: It is now set at April sixth.
Speaker 4: And when you draw a line in the sand like that,
Speaker 4: when you give somebody an ultimatum and you've pushed it
Speaker 4: back twice, Now, what are you going to do on
Speaker 4: this third time? Are you actually going to follow through?
Speaker 4: If you say something. I remember someone giving me this
Speaker 4: advice as a parent. If you threaten a punishment, if
Speaker 4: you threaten a consequence, you absolutely have to deliver because
Speaker 4: if you do not. You will never be taken seriously
Speaker 4: again by your child.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: And I think about that.
Speaker 4: Just on a micro level as a parent, and then
Speaker 4: applying that to the macro level of yes, we're in
Speaker 4: the middle of a war and you are making this
Speaker 4: hard line.
Speaker 3: You've said it. What are you going to do when
Speaker 3: they don't blink?
Speaker 1: They didn't blink.
Speaker 2: And what he's been able to do Rope so far
Speaker 2: is to say, well, the reason I haven't followed through
Speaker 2: is because negotiations are going.
Speaker 4: So well, negotiations that he didn't mention last night, the
Speaker 4: deadline that he didn't refer to last night.
Speaker 3: Notice also he went a lot softer on NATO allies.
Speaker 4: He had been eviscerating folks in Europe for their unwillingness
Speaker 4: to help us in our war, them very clearly, many
Speaker 4: of them coming out and saying, yeah, it's not our war,
Speaker 4: We're not about to do it. We heard even Marco
Speaker 4: Rubio saying we don't need to be in NATO. President
Speaker 4: Trump basically saying the same thing, let's get out of NATO.
Speaker 3: No mention of that last night, whatsoever.
Speaker 2: It was a I was I don't know what we
Speaker 2: were expecting.
Speaker 3: The information, Yeah, you know, what.
Speaker 2: We just said is more notable for what he didn't say.
Speaker 2: A lot of what we heard last night wasn't new. No,
Speaker 2: he just had a bigger audience for it, and he
Speaker 2: had this prime time But if you raised the level,
Speaker 2: if you say, I want a prime time address, and
Speaker 2: we didn't hear anything new.
Speaker 4: We were thinking there was going to be some sort
Speaker 4: of information, something we all needed to know as a nation.
Speaker 3: This was going to be a big deal to have
Speaker 3: this formal address.
Speaker 4: It's not supposed to be a pr campaign where you're
Speaker 4: trying to get people on your side, and that's basically
Speaker 4: what this was. He was trying to convince us still
Speaker 4: that the war was worthy and that we were winning it.
Speaker 3: But he was not there to give us.
Speaker 4: Any new information, any new update, And so that was
Speaker 4: where I think a lot of people were just scratching
Speaker 4: their heads.
Speaker 3: What is this for? Why are we watching this? What
Speaker 3: are we listening to?
Speaker 2: So much talk about the straight of horror moves as
Speaker 2: well robes and twenty percent of the world's oil going
Speaker 2: through there, but a lot of it is not making
Speaker 2: his way to the United States. We don't get a
Speaker 2: lot of oil from Gulf countries, but the President said,
Speaker 2: we don't give a damn about the straight of horror
Speaker 2: moves last night and say not yourself out. We got
Speaker 2: plenty of oil. We don't need the oil. That might
Speaker 2: be true. There's a problem though, we have to care
Speaker 2: because of that oil is not on the world market.
Speaker 2: Oil prices will continue to go up. Gas prices will
Speaker 2: continue to go up. So a lot of people heard
Speaker 2: that it's almost being dismissed if like it's no big
Speaker 2: deal to us, to the straight up wour moves. It
Speaker 2: is a huge deal to us.
Speaker 4: And it also twice in the face of prior statements
Speaker 4: he made just you know earlier this week saying I
Speaker 4: love taking Iranian oil.
Speaker 3: I want to take their oil.
Speaker 4: So it just he says one thing one day, he
Speaker 4: says the complete opposite the next day.
Speaker 3: Which one is true? Which one are we supposed to believe?
Speaker 2: It's an evolving situation, Rose, it's an evolving situation. Hey,
Speaker 2: it's war man, It's an evolving situation. But last night
Speaker 2: we were expecting, and I think a lot of people Rose,
Speaker 2: maybe we're hoping for and expecting more guidance the off
Speaker 2: ramp people keep talking about.
Speaker 1: Didn't hear it last night.
Speaker 4: And there was not a plan for an off ramp.
Speaker 4: There wasn't even any cifix for how we're getting out
Speaker 4: of it. It was almost as if because there was
Speaker 4: no mention of negotiations, no mention of a ceasefire, it
Speaker 4: was almost like, we're just going to keep blowing things
Speaker 4: up until we can't blow anything else up anymore, and
Speaker 4: then we're just going to leave. Because there was no
Speaker 4: mention of ground troops, there was no mention of all
Speaker 4: of these other possibilities.
Speaker 3: And actually that was one of the possibilities.
Speaker 4: I think people were expecting he might be saying, either
Speaker 4: there is a ceasefire, there is negotiation, or we're sending
Speaker 4: troops in. There was like to me to put up
Speaker 4: and to ask for that prime time bit of airtime
Speaker 4: from all the broadcast networks. You would think it would
Speaker 4: be something like we are sending troops in. Our men
Speaker 4: and women are are going to invade Iran in very
Speaker 4: targeted attacks or floors over something.
Speaker 3: Nothing and so right.
Speaker 4: There was no specifics about any change of course, any
Speaker 4: new developments.
Speaker 3: It was just like, here's why it's.
Speaker 4: Not so bad, and it's not been that long, but
Speaker 4: my goodness, there really wasn't a headline of any new information.
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