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Speaker 1: Mmmmm, all right, welcome to this day of the Lakers

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Speaker 1: on Dash Radio. Than you got so much to come

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Speaker 1: to hang out on the what's the Tuesday Tuesday night? Uh?

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Speaker 1: Finally some I would say easily the high point of

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Speaker 1: the Laker season, which is what we needed after that

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Speaker 1: horrible news this afternoon, UM that Lebron was going down.

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Speaker 1: I had a good feeling about tonight, Um, and I'll

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Speaker 1: explain why in a minute, but I'm really glad that

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Speaker 1: you and I Raj can for the most part talk

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Speaker 1: about good things tonight and and talk about how this

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Speaker 1: might be just an the second consecutive step in the

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Speaker 1: right direction. How are you doing, buddy, how's your week

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Speaker 1: going so far? Doing well? Yeah? I saw you and

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Speaker 1: a bunch of other people tweeting positive about the Lakers

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Speaker 1: earlier in the day, and and I just knew there

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Speaker 1: was something bad at just a bad thing I felt

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Speaker 1: was going to happen. And we got the Lebron news

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Speaker 1: right that he's going to be out. I think we'll

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Speaker 1: see it's probably gonna be ten days or something. It

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Speaker 1: just felt like this team can't build in any rhythm,

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Speaker 1: and it's not an excuse to come in tonight and

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Speaker 1: try and lose against the Kings. But I was a

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Speaker 1: little bit worried about that, and then the game started

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Speaker 1: and we started really slow. Frank again, when I went

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Speaker 1: with DeAndre Jordan's right, it was really ugly. I think

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Speaker 1: we had like fourteen points for a lot of the

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Speaker 1: first quarter, but that second half was huge, man. And

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Speaker 1: we'll get into it, but you're right, it's probably the

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Speaker 1: high point of the season, which is fascinating to say

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Speaker 1: after we get the news that we lose Lebron for

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Speaker 1: for a couple of days. But yeah, just a high point,

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Speaker 1: something we could build off of. I talked about it

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Speaker 1: after the last game that they've lost the benefit of

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Speaker 1: the doubt after the Detroit game that they would build

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Speaker 1: off of off of that win, it was good to

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Speaker 1: see it tonight. I thought it was just an incredible

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Speaker 1: second half, an incredible third quarter from the Superstars and

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Speaker 1: Dwight Howard as well being involved in that. But but yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: just just a good win. It's nice to have a

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Speaker 1: good win. And everyone coming coming over from the Warrior

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Speaker 1: Sons game, I bet a lot of people step to

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Speaker 1: that one, but yeah, this was a good one, a

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Speaker 1: fun game. Finally for us, the team was fun to

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Speaker 1: watch tonight. One of one of the biggest things that

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Speaker 1: I've been complaining about all years. Like, you know, the

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Speaker 1: Lakers had an unlikable basketball character. You know they you

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Speaker 1: know if they if the if if you could sum

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Speaker 1: up the entire Lakers personality and to someone that would

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Speaker 1: show up to your gym and play pick up with you,

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Speaker 1: he'd be the guy you don't want to play with,

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Speaker 1: that has all the talent in the world, but it

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Speaker 1: doesn't care and isn't willing to do the dirty work.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't really value the win as much as you do,

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Speaker 1: doesn't care if you lose and have to wait three

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Speaker 1: games to get back on. That was the Lakers this

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Speaker 1: entire season really up until in my opinion, the last game.

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Speaker 1: Even in the first chunk of the season, they would

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Speaker 1: have stretches where they would put those things together, but

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Speaker 1: they were just stretches. Even in the same game they'd

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Speaker 1: you'd be like, man, Lebron was magnificent down the stretch.

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Speaker 1: They won by twelve. The defense was great. You know,

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Speaker 1: that looked like Laker basketball, and you forget that, Like

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Speaker 1: for most of that game, they were kind of coasting,

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Speaker 1: you know, and that Lebron really wasn't good for most

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Speaker 1: was just a different energy around the team and it

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Speaker 1: old habits that they had to kick. There was the

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Jordan's you know, kind of clunkiness in the in

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Speaker 1: the offense, particularly in the first half, although they put

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Speaker 1: together some good DeAndre Jordan minutes in the second half,

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Speaker 1: there was the you know, there was the fact that

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Speaker 1: the role players were not making shots. Actually kind of

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Speaker 1: dug into the numbers a little bit today and coming

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Speaker 1: just like the theme of the first half was just

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Speaker 1: but the point being is just to see that effort

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Speaker 1: they had to take it more seriously. And you saw

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Speaker 1: it down the roster, and then that carried over in tonight.

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Speaker 1: There were some obvious turnovers and things along those lines

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Speaker 1: to undercut them, but that way you've caught in that

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Speaker 1: you saw the massive talent gap. And again, the Kings

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Speaker 1: more talent than them. We just weren't respecting the game

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Speaker 1: we'll get into more of the XS and oes details tonight,

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Speaker 1: but foundationally, just in terms of their basketball character, there

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Speaker 1: I feel like this team again kind of goes as

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Speaker 1: And that's not really how this team is gonna work.

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Speaker 1: That's not the ceiling of this team. And about Detroit

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Speaker 1: against the Pistons, I thought we saw what the ceiling

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Speaker 1: And I get not comparing Russ to Andrew Wiggins in

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Speaker 1: that way, it's just I think that's where this team

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Speaker 1: Like I think the effort obviously was was big tonight.

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Speaker 1: giving up a lot of lob Dunster Shawn Holmes when

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Speaker 1: that third quarter that switched up is part of it.

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Speaker 1: I think they play harder when they're in better lineups.

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Speaker 1: the Dwight, a D with Monk and Ellington in the

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Speaker 1: You saw him start to rock the baby, and it

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Speaker 1: kind of energized the rest of the team. You saw

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Speaker 1: But I thought that's what switched the game to be.

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Speaker 1: Would you agree with that? I thought that's where the

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Speaker 1: momentum changed. I thought when they went into that like

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Speaker 1: And the third quarter Restcott downhill, he scored, He saw

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Speaker 1: thought that opened everything up for the team. Yeah. No,

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Speaker 1: it was intentional to rest him last game against Detroit.

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Speaker 1: Lebron as the center. With the bench lineups, I nearly

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Speaker 1: I'm like, then why are we playing DeAndre like? Like

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Speaker 1: Dwight is five times the player of DeAndre, Like at least,

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Speaker 1: I'm probably under selling it there, like he's there's not

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Speaker 1: then why in the world will we playing DeAndre like it?

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Speaker 1: You know? And like I've told you so many times,

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Speaker 1: and small doses when it's Dwight, because the the Dwight

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Speaker 1: A D pairing is so devastating defensively on teams, it

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Speaker 1: of post ups still early and again, the offense is

431
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Speaker 1: never gonna look pretty, but I thought he took it.

432
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Speaker 1: I believe it was meant to who was guarding him

433
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Speaker 1: early took him to the basket. His jumper also looks good,

434
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Speaker 1: looks better, It looks like it's trending upward. I thought

435
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Speaker 1: the mid range looked good again tonight. Twelve fur I

436
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Speaker 1: believe he was twelve. The numbers always look at with

437
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Speaker 1: a D steals the stocks, so steals blocks, two steals,

438
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Speaker 1: two blocks, two offensive rebounds, like that's the stuff I

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Speaker 1: look at. See that he's engaged and I thought again,

440
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Speaker 1: he us tonight when we went through that two big lineup,

441
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Speaker 1: he was able to roam, got a lot of steals. Uh.

442
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Speaker 1: It just looked like the old Anthony Davis right engaged,

443
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 1: looked like the best defense player in the world. He

444
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Speaker 1: was taking away anything the Kings had taken away on switches.

445
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Speaker 1: He was just a problem tonight and we need that

446
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,359
Speaker 1: every single night. Especially it was Lebron out here and

447
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 1: again this time, this kind of a D makes Russ

448
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Speaker 1: the second option, Like he's not the third option, which

449
00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,879
Speaker 1: is the ideal ceiling of this team, but puts Russ

450
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Speaker 1: at the second option. And if Russ is your second

451
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Speaker 1: option on every other night, you have a pretty you

452
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Speaker 1: should have a pretty darned good team like night tonight.

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Speaker 1: Not against the best teams, but again, like you said,

454
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Speaker 1: against the Kings on the road, if Russ is your

455
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Speaker 1: is your absolute second option, and a D can be

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Speaker 1: the full one option, like that's that's a good enough

457
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Speaker 1: team to win. And I thought we saw that tonight.

458
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Speaker 1: A D was aggressive early on post ups, jumpers, uh,

459
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Speaker 1: keeping the team in it a lot with his offense

460
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Speaker 1: in the first half, and then Russ took over in

461
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Speaker 1: the third and a D kind of joined him and

462
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Speaker 1: they went on the defensive run together. But some other

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Speaker 1: numbers I thought before we get into the super super

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Speaker 1: deep details, Malik Malik Monka plus thirty three, uh, Wayne Ellington,

465
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Speaker 1: Wayne Ellington, Tonight I believe was plus thirteen. Dwight Howard

466
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Speaker 1: a plus twenty seven. So that lineup just absolutely destroyed

467
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Speaker 1: the Kings that you know that a Monk Russ, Monk Russ, Ellington,

468
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Speaker 1: Dwight and a D line up absolutely just destroyed them,

469
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Speaker 1: something that hopefully Vocal uses going forward. But that's a

470
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Speaker 1: good process thing. Another good game from a D back

471
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Speaker 1: to back at least twenty four point games on the season.

472
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Speaker 1: And the Clippers, Uh, Clippers aren't playing great right now,

473
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Speaker 1: so that's another game you can get. Like they're they're

474
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Speaker 1: not playing well. I think they just lost to the

475
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Speaker 1: Pelicans at home, so it's a it's another game we

476
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Speaker 1: can get. Was that the line up that you were

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Speaker 1: talking about that you would want as the starting one? It? Yeah,

478
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Speaker 1: I think that's that, or if you want, you could

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Speaker 1: put Reeves I guess in there. But I just think

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Speaker 1: that's the lineup that we need to to go to, uh,

481
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Speaker 1: just to just to open things up. But I think

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Speaker 1: these slow starts are again. It was great tonight to

483
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Speaker 1: come back and get another comeback win, but slow starts

484
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Speaker 1: are really hurding and and I think Dwight at least

485
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Speaker 1: will start the next game. We'll see about if did

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Speaker 1: you see that altercation between Frank and DeAndre? I just

487
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,360
Speaker 1: saw it on Twitter. You catch that, go to pick

488
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 1: up Hoops Twitter feed and you'll get to see it.

489
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Speaker 1: But it's interesting because the I, you know, Frank had

490
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Speaker 1: hinted at at potentially starting Dwight instead of DJ, just

491
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Speaker 1: to kind of see what it would look like. I've

492
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Speaker 1: shocked that he didn't go there tonight and then had

493
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Speaker 1: the quick hook with DJ, which makes you wonder, Okay,

494
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Speaker 1: if you were leaning that direction to begin with, why

495
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Speaker 1: isn't that the way you started? You know what I mean? Um,

496
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Speaker 1: But you know, it's it's an interesting conundrum because when

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Speaker 1: you go big with Dwight, there's a couple of reasons

498
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Speaker 1: why it's different than when you go big with DeAndre.

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Speaker 1: When you go big with Dwight. First of all, yes,

500
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Speaker 1: as it hurt the spacing absolutely. However, there's a couple

501
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Speaker 1: of differences. Dwight actively fights the negatives of the way

502
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Speaker 1: it hurts the spacing by being an active offensive rebounder. Okay,

503
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: that's a big deal that he recovers if you wanna, Okay,

504
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: if you want to attribute a points per possession type

505
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Speaker 1: of number to that lack of spacing, he offsets part

506
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Speaker 1: of that by generating additional possessions. DeAndre Jordan's does not

507
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Speaker 1: do that, at least not nearly at the same the

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Speaker 1: same level. And then Dwight is so much better defensively

509
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Speaker 1: that you can at least advocate for the tradeoff. Right,

510
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Speaker 1: the idea of going big is there's a tradeoff. That's

511
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Speaker 1: what That's what Frank would tell you, right, like, Okay,

512
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at this, like if I go big, I'm

513
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Speaker 1: getting this and I'm giving this. Right. But the problem

514
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Speaker 1: was with DeAndre is it was illogical from the beginning

515
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Speaker 1: because all you were doing was giving You're giving away

516
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Speaker 1: offense and you're giving away defense. It was hurting you

517
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Speaker 1: on both ends of the floor. It never made sense

518
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Speaker 1: to begin with. It was It's probably the biggest red

519
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Speaker 1: mark on Frank's coaching job this season has been the DeAndre.

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Speaker 1: I think we we can argue that his case for

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Speaker 1: Avery Bradley made perfect sense to me. Hey, dude, it's

522
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Speaker 1: not in the numbers, but we like the way his

523
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Speaker 1: effort is contagious. We think it will eventually bear out.

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Speaker 1: You know that that's totally logical to me, because Avery

525
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Speaker 1: Bradley does make sense, as in in a in a

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Speaker 1: vacuum as a basketball fit with those guys. The DeAndre

527
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Speaker 1: thing made absolutely no sense from the beginning. And so

528
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Speaker 1: it's interesting to see Dwight have this, have this moment,

529
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Speaker 1: have this success, and hopefully with this Lebron You know,

530
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Speaker 1: if there's a silver lining to the Lebron thing, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get to see a lot of Dwight next to

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Speaker 1: a d over the course of the next ten days.

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Speaker 1: And I think you'll see that with this group dialed

534
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Speaker 1: in the way that they're supposed to be, dialed in

535
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Speaker 1: the way that they haven't been most of most of

536
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Speaker 1: the season, I think you're going to see them be

537
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Speaker 1: a really, really good defensive team over the course of

538
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Speaker 1: the next week. They're gonna play big a lot without Lebron,

539
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Speaker 1: I expect to see a lot of Dwight And as

540
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Speaker 1: long as everyone continues this this momentum on that front,

541
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Speaker 1: and in terms of the willingness to do the job.

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Speaker 1: I think you'll I think you'll see it work. You know, uh,

543
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Speaker 1: early in the game, you know, you saw that this

544
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Speaker 1: is where I wanted to get into a little bit

545
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Speaker 1: of the details having to do with um, you know,

546
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Speaker 1: the little things that make basketball teams good. You know,

547
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Speaker 1: when you kicked on the effort, it was always going

548
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Speaker 1: to take a couple of games, like I said, to

549
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Speaker 1: to establish the good habits in Frank's system. He still

550
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Speaker 1: likes to run drop. You're probably gonna see a lot

551
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Speaker 1: of drop with Dwight in the lineup right, because they're

552
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Speaker 1: not gonna want to do as much switching with Dwight

553
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Speaker 1: out there, so that puts a lot on the other

554
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Speaker 1: guys on the floor. You're asking. The first play of

555
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Speaker 1: the game, if you remember, they ran a pick and

556
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Speaker 1: roll and both both DJ and whoever it was on

557
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: the ball, whether it was th Ht or Russ, went

558
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Speaker 1: with the ball handler little pocket pass to Rashawn Holmes,

559
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Speaker 1: and Ellington was there, but he was like a solid

560
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Speaker 1: two seconds late, and he basically just two hand padded

561
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Speaker 1: the dude on the chest and gifted him a free

562
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Speaker 1: free throw. Just for poops and giggles, you know, and

563
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Speaker 1: those are those little details, right. It's not like anybody

564
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: wasn't playing hard on that possession. It's just the team

565
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: on a string does not have the habit instilled yet

566
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Speaker 1: of helping when that kind of thing happens, and it's

567
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Speaker 1: it was going to take time for that to get fixed.

568
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Speaker 1: In the third quarter, when they were everyone was flying

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Speaker 1: around Anthony Davis off the ball in those pick and

570
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Speaker 1: roll coverages, Dwight Howard was more active in the drop,

571
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Speaker 1: coming up higher and actually bothering the past rather than

572
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Speaker 1: kind of sitting in that no man's land where you

573
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 1: could just throw it over the top. Those details started

574
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Speaker 1: to shape and over the course of this game, and

575
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Speaker 1: the key there is consistent consistency. If they continue to

576
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Speaker 1: develop and practice those details over the course of this

577
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Speaker 1: next week and with Lebron eventually coming back to they

578
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 1: have the talent to be a very, very very good

579
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Speaker 1: defensive team, especially with Anthony Davis playing this way. You know,

580
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Speaker 1: one of my favorite possessions was the one that I

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Speaker 1: shared out with Austin Reaves. It's freaking hard to do

582
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Speaker 1: what he did on that possession. You'd go on my

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Speaker 1: twitterf each stroll down. It's one of the last like

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Speaker 1: two or three things. I tweeted. It's really hard to

585
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Speaker 1: do what Austin Reads did on that possession too. He's

586
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: he's stepped into help on the pick and roll, which

587
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: forced the skip pass. When the skip fast came, he

588
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: sprinted out and took away the shot from Tyrese Haliburton.

589
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Speaker 1: As soon as that happened, they threw a pass back

590
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Speaker 1: into the post and he kind of got back into

591
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Speaker 1: his defensive position, and then Tyrese Haliburton shot off a

592
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Speaker 1: dribble handoff and he had to chase the dude over

593
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: the top of the dribble handoff, and he kind of

594
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 1: got beat a little bit, but he he knew as

595
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Speaker 1: soon as he got beat, He's like, I have to

596
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Speaker 1: box out Alex Lamn. That's my job. Now I failed

597
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: at this job, but it's okay. My teammate helped me.

598
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: I now have to cover for my teammate. And he

599
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: dove and he pushed Alex land Damn near out of

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Speaker 1: bounds and they were able to secure the rebound. Now, ironically,

601
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: Malik Monk immediately dribbled it off his foot at the bounds,

602
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Speaker 1: which was the which was the theme of the first half.

603
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: My point is is like it, like I said a

604
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,560
Speaker 1: couple of pods ago, it is hard to play winning basketball.

605
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Speaker 1: It is not. The fun isn't in the job. The

606
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,719
Speaker 1: fun is in the result. The Lakers looked like they

607
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: were having a hell of a good time there in

608
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Speaker 1: that second half run, but the work they were doing

609
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: to generate that run was hard. It was hard work,

610
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Speaker 1: and and I just in general, it's good to see

611
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: them get rewarded for that hard work because that will

612
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: continue to encourage them to do it moving forward. I

613
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: love that play you you signal out about Austin Reeves

614
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Speaker 1: because I had that one down too. That's instinctual for

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Speaker 1: him though, right like that, Like he didn't even have

616
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Speaker 1: to like think like, oh should I go box out

617
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Speaker 1: Alex Land, Oh this is gonna hurt. It's just like boom,

618
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Speaker 1: shot goes up, I'm finding a body, right, And that's

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Speaker 1: just instinctual for him, And that's not what no Monk

620
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Speaker 1: and Ellington are And it was gonna take time. But

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Speaker 1: you point out that first play of the game they ran,

622
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Speaker 1: they actually got a bunch of lob dunks off of

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Speaker 1: the Haliburton and Holmes pick and roll, right it just

624
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: felt like Halibern Holmes pick and roll, lob dunk. But

625
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: in the second half, I thought they really took those away.

626
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: Ellington was starting to tag their Milik Monk. He's not

627
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: gonna bother it as much, but he was tagging. And

628
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Speaker 1: that's all you can ask that do your job, do

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Speaker 1: your role, and I thought they did. I thought the

630
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Speaker 1: guards did their job in the second half. And I

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Speaker 1: thought Dwight it was incredible his energy taking away with

632
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Speaker 1: Shan Holmes. I believe like punked our team for a

633
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,719
Speaker 1: lot of that first half, like just a lot of

634
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Speaker 1: offensive rebounds, finishing, finishing at the rim. So it's good

635
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: to see that again. Like you talked about with Austin Reeves,

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Speaker 1: just his instinctual way to play defense. I wanted to

637
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Speaker 1: kind of ask you because we got some like Trevor

638
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 1: reason News right and and you were higher on him

639
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Speaker 1: kind of in the summer. I've been saying that, you know,

640
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: putting your hopes in a thirty six year old wing

641
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: is is probably misplaced. But it's obviously the team feels

642
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: this way too. And Vogel has been gaining a lot

643
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: of crap this year. But he came out and said

644
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: he needs to find lineups until Trevor Reasa gets back

645
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: and say that he might be a week or two out.

646
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: That was what he said on the local, which was insane. Yeah,

647
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,239
Speaker 1: so him and Lebron could hope, like, could you know,

648
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: theoretically come back at the same time, which would be

649
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: in an awesome kind of way to get the get

650
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: those back. But I was just thinking about that in

651
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: terms of this team, because it's very clear Vocal is searching.

652
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you can say what you want about the

653
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: Avery Bradley. Avery Bradley was out tonight with the spraying thumb.

654
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: We'll see how long he's out, but you can tell

655
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: he's searching. He had a quick quick pull for DeAndre

656
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: Jordan's and we'll see if Trevor Reason just fits right

657
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: into that, because I think he does. Like I talked

658
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: about with Austin Reeves, Trevor Reasons made a career out

659
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: of doing that, right, doing the dirty work, not even

660
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: have to think about it. He goes and boxes out.

661
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: There's no like, oh should I go No, no, no no,

662
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: it's a shot goes up. I have to get myself

663
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: on a body, I have to box out. He does

664
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: the dirty things. This team doesn't have a lot of

665
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: players that do the dirty work, and I think that's

666
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: what they're missing. And that's why Austin Reeves to me

667
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: just stands out on the film so much because he

668
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: does that instinctually. It's not even you don't have to

669
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: tell him to go do it. And that's where I think, uh,

670
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: Trevor Reason can fix. So I just wanted to kind

671
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: of get your thoughts on that because I thought it

672
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: was huge. Trevor Reason spoke with the media, um and

673
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: he's not close in terms of like a few days,

674
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: but you talked about David McManaman said maybe ten to

675
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: twelve days like that would be a huge addition to

676
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: a team with no wings at least with Baysmore, especially

677
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: just out of the rotation as well. I think that

678
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: would be a huge addition to to a to a

679
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: defense that looks like it's it's hopefully trending upwards. Well,

680
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: I think a reason unlocks your ability to ditch some

681
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: of these kind of archaic defensive schemes. You know, like

682
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: you and I. You and I are way anti drop

683
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: coverage under any circumstances. That's something that you and I

684
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: have complained about about other teams and our team. Um,

685
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: the Lakers got away with it in because they were

686
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: so so so good everywhere else on the floor. But

687
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: the truth of the matter is when push came to

688
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: shove against the best teams in the league in the playoffs,

689
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: they did a lot of switching um, and they just

690
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: can't do that right now. They have to play Dwight

691
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: in order to cover for the lack of Lebron that therefore,

692
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: you can't just run around with a D and Dwight

693
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: switching everything. It's just too funky of a lineup group

694
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: for that type of defensive style, and so you have

695
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: to you have to run drop coverage, just kind of

696
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: like an unfortunate side effect of their personnel circumstance right now.

697
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: But giving Trevor reason, it's just that obvious plug in

698
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: that raises the the you know, aggregate length and athleticism

699
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: of any lineup um from having, especially with how many

700
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: small guards the Lakers play, and that just inherently gives

701
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: you more flexibility defensively with your scheming. UM. So obviously

702
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: a reason is gonna be huge in that regard UM.

703
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: But like as far as like you know I I

704
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: you have to figure out how to make it work

705
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: with this group for this stretch of time, because the

706
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: reason is a week and half out, at least a

707
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: week or two out according to make that mean that

708
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: to me feels way overly optimistic. I heard that he

709
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: just started running, so like the idea of going from

710
00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: just running to you know, playing NBA basketball, that feels

711
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: like a little bit further out, especially when you factor

712
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: in Frank's insistence on getting lots of practice reps with

713
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: the with the group. I mean, obviously I'll be thrilled

714
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 1: if he comes back sooner, but you know, in the meantime,

715
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: in this in this period of time, to try to

716
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: grind out a win against the Clippers and to try

717
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: to grind out a win against the Celtics, it needs

718
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 1: to be like what you saw tonight. Lots of bigger lineups,

719
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: either a D at the five or a D and Dwight,

720
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: lots of or obviously you're gonna have to rest a

721
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,919
Speaker 1: these so you're gonna see some Dwight in there as well,

722
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 1: but just lots of lots of flying around, lots of

723
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 1: feeding off. You know, this is something that they just

724
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: sent us a message. I don't know if you've noticed

725
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: that rage. But he uh pointed out that the fact

726
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: that the Lakers in general seem to feed off of

727
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:48,439
Speaker 1: their own offensive success in order to find the motivation

728
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: to do what they're supposed to do defensively. And that's

729
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: this human nature, especially when you've got players like this

730
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: where their basketball character gears them more towards the things

731
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: that they enjoy to do, which are the things that

732
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 1: they do on the offensive end of the floor. Um,

733
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: that's this is another reason why that's starting lineup in

734
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: the vacuum is so frustrating, going with DeAndre because it's

735
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 1: hard to ask a group to do a dirty job

736
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: when the result isn't showing on the scoreboard. When you

737
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 1: look on the scoreboard and you're down eighteen to twelve

738
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: again and your offense looks clunky as hell. Why do

739
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: you believe Frank when he says, oh, if you fight

740
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: over the top of the screen and apply back pressure

741
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: and know if you get lost, if you dive to

742
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: the big and box amount out of bounds and you

743
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: get elbowed in the face and all this stuff, it's

744
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: gonna help us win. You're gonna think he's crazy because

745
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: it's not helping you win. And so that's why there

746
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: has to be a delicate balance there. It's it's gonna

747
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: be easier with limited lineups in terms of defensive personnel,

748
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: but that can score the hell out of the basketball,

749
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: to try to get them to buy into some of

750
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: those dirty work concepts, because then if they do that

751
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 1: and they're shot, they're falling, and they feel that you know,

752
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 1: motor revn and it leads to them doing that work

753
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: and they go back to the huddle and they're up

754
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: seven or they're up nine, It kind of it kind

755
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 1: of adds legitimacy to the game plan, you know what

756
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: I mean, And that that's where that's where, that's where

757
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: you and I have been preaching a all year long

758
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: about leaning into your offensive identity. It's going to be

759
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: easier to convince in this particular group, with this particular

760
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: kind of roster construction, it's gonna be easier to convince

761
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: this unelite offensive team to buy in enough on defense

762
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 1: to win then vice versa. I mean, we basically learned

763
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: that with the Brooklyn Nets last year. Like they realized

764
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: like they were scoring the hell out of the basketball,

765
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: and so Steve Nash and the staff was able to

766
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: convince them to put in enough effort on that end

767
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: to get to close the deal. The differences with this

768
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: team when they're healthy is you got Lebron and a

769
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: d on the back line. So guess what You're gonna

770
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 1: be able to hit an offense or defensive ceiling even

771
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: with limited personnel that that Brooklyn Nets team never could.

772
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: And that's would make me so excited about this roster

773
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: coming into the season, and so I hope to see

774
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,479
Speaker 1: kind of more of that momentum building. And I thought

775
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: tonight was the first night that we saw that nuclear

776
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: potential that this team has, ironically without Lebron that two way,

777
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: here's our suffocating defense and oh, by the way, you

778
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: just gave Wayne Ellington a wide open three. But what

779
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: the hell were you gonna do? Russ put his head

780
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: down and did this vicious spin move into the lane

781
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 1: and if you didn't collapse the entire defense on him,

782
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: he was going to get a layup. So that that

783
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: that that's that's what's so cool about this dynamic and

784
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: to watch that momentum build is this is what I

785
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: envisioned this Laker identity to be. No, they weren't going

786
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 1: to be as suffocating as they were with Alex Crusoe

787
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: on the wing and with with the k C P

788
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: on the wing, but they could get reasonably close to

789
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: that with an infinitely higher offensive ceiling because of all

790
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 1: the shooting around them. And so it's good to see

791
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 1: that kind of developed. Yeah, and you talked about this

792
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 1: team gets its you know, energy offensive from their offensive success.

793
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: That's Russell Westbrook right. Like you can tell Russell Westbrook

794
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: gets all of his energy when he starts scoring. When

795
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: he started getting in the basket, starting to go to

796
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: the free throw line. You see him start to rock

797
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: the baby. Right even though we were like down eight,

798
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: he gets his first like post up score, he starts

799
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: to rock the baby. Going to time out. You can

800
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: tell the whole energy just shifted. And that's what I think,

801
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: like we've been talking about all year of leading into

802
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: not just in an offensive identity, which is what this

803
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: team is leaning into, the Russell Westbrook identity, because that's

804
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: what this team basically needs to be, especially with Lebron. Now,

805
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 1: this team is gonna go any Davis maybe the best player,

806
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 1: but this team is going to go as Russell Westbrook

807
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: kind of goes. You had like five points, I think

808
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: close to halftime, like they need his production, they need

809
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: him engaged. Tell you can tell his defense just turns

810
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 1: up right. His energy defensively, he starts fighting over screens,

811
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: he starts using his physicality to his advantage defensively. It's

812
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: just stuff he doesn't and it's just part of him

813
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: as a basketball player. When he's disengaged, he just he

814
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: disengages on both ends. Defensively, you know, he ball watches

815
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: a lot, he gets laws, but you can tell when

816
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: he starts to score and he can feel the game turning,

817
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: he turns it on on both ends. And I thought

818
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: on defense, we saw that as well on the third quarter.

819
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: He's a chaotic defender, right Like he he wants to

820
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: create chaos and he wants to create turnovers. That gets

821
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: him going. And I think his scoring lends into that,

822
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: and that's what this team needs to do. You're at.

823
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: These slow starts are just so lethargic. It's so counterintuitive

824
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: to the way the team needs to play. We started

825
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: Wayne Ellington, but he couldn't get any shots, right. We

826
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: ran no actions before him either, And we have like

827
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: four non spacing guys and so they can just stay

828
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,959
Speaker 1: at home on Wayne Ellington and he saw that third quarter,

829
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: things open up and you're right. When Russ gets to

830
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: the rim, and now he gets two guys in the corner,

831
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: you make his make his reads a little bit more automatic.

832
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: He's throwing two spaces instead of players. He's still he's

833
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: doing so he's throwing two corners right instead of who's

834
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,399
Speaker 1: in the corner. You see him do this a lot,

835
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: and this is how he gets a lot of turnovers.

836
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: But like you'll drive, so like you'll drive and get

837
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: in the paint and then expect like the big to

838
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: already be at the three point line, but like our

839
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: biggest jogging back right, so like the ball goes to

840
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: half court. But he does this in the half court

841
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 1: setting to like he loves to find the corners and

842
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: he wants a guy in the corner there. And it's

843
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 1: just really tough when you have, uh no spacing, no

844
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: actual shooters there where there's no spacing around him. So

845
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: I just think there's stuff that we have to play

846
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: into us. And I think you saw that in the

847
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: third quarter. Again. I think it's no accident. Again, we

848
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: won the third quarter of thirty seven to fifteen, and

849
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: we've won the second half sixty seven and thirty three,

850
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,479
Speaker 1: Like that's that's no, that's no coincidence to me, And

851
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: DeAndre Jordan is not all at fault for that. It's

852
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: not all that blame. I think. Also, the th HD

853
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 1: sub was real, and it's not th HD s fall.

854
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: He's just a ball hamlet that wants to get to

855
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 1: the rim next to three other guys who aren't shooters,

856
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 1: who aren't spacers, and he's not a good enough space

857
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 1: spacing shooter yet. So what do you make of the

858
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: th HT thing moving forward? Because this has been a

859
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: pretty extended, nasty stretch of basketball for him. I mean again,

860
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: like I try to keep it in contact. He's a

861
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: guy who just turned twenty one. He's a guy that

862
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: needs the ball in his hands. He needs on ball reps,

863
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: and I think that has to come with Russ off

864
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: the floor, maybe next to a D and shooting. And

865
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if those lineups are viable, uh, if

866
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: those lineups survival defensively, But that's kind of where he's

867
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: at right now. He's in this middle ground place and

868
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: this is kind of he's in a winning situation, so

869
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to earn every minute he gets, right

870
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: Like these are these aren't given minutes at all of

871
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: Malik Monk is out playing him. He's not going to

872
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 1: play like that's just how it's going to go on

873
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 1: this team. On another team, he would average minutes a game,

874
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: get all the high ball screen reps that he wants,

875
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: could probably average seventeen five on a on a you know,

876
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: on a great on a great efficishty or whatever on

877
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: another team. But on this team, he's gonna have to defend.

878
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to be at least somewhat of a

879
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: respectable spot up shooter. I know he loves to attack closeouts,

880
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: and he's great at attacking closeouts, but teams have scouted him.

881
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 1: They close out short to him all all the time. Now,

882
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: Like if you watch, if you watch, teams close out

883
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: to him to close out to him short. They're expecting

884
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: the drive he goes in. He's trying to he's trying

885
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: to kick it back out. It just looks ugly, and

886
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: I think he'll get there. He has enough talent um,

887
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: he's shown enough on ball skill. It's just on this

888
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 1: team he's not gonna get those type of reps. It'll

889
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 1: be interesting to see, especially when we get healthy Kendrick

890
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 1: Nunn is still not close, which I don't know what

891
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: that means. But when he gets back, obviously Trevor Reason,

892
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: we'll see where the minutes come from. I think defensively,

893
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: THHD can still be great. Did you see that block

894
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: he had tonight? I think every game. Yes, that was

895
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: absolutely he got beat off the dribble and still caught

896
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: up and painted off the backboard. I was just like, Wow,

897
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 1: that is that's special. That's that's that's there's some special

898
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: deep sense there. But offensively, it's just ugly right now.

899
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: But he's young. It's it's not gonna be pretty. He's not.

900
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,280
Speaker 1: And I we talked about it when he was averaging

901
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: points of game or whatever for his three first three games, like,

902
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: he's probably not that player. He's also not the player

903
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: that you know, goes scoreless in three straight games. He

904
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 1: somewhere in between there. But just on this team, he

905
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: doesn't get the rips that that he would. Yeah, the

906
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: t HT thing was one of the more interesting phenomena

907
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: of the game in my opinion, because he was completely

908
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: disheveled by ball pressure from davy On Mitchell, and you know,

909
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: you see a lot of ball pressure in the NBA,

910
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: but it's usually pretty relaxed, you know, because NBA ball

911
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: handlers are so good and guys don't really believe in

912
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: devoting that much energy to it. But davidan Mitchell like

913
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 1: just that he knows that that's his elite skill um

914
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: that he brings to the table, so he leans very

915
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: heavily into it. And you know, ball pressure rushes rushes

916
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: a ball handler, makes them make a decision before they

917
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: want to. Most ball handlers like to comfortably dribble away

918
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 1: from the basketball to play the belt ups and either

919
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: make their entry pass into the offense wherever it is,

920
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: or if they have to start at the top of

921
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: the key to if their initiation is some sort of

922
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: pick and roll, they like to comfortably work their way

923
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 1: into it so that they can make a read. And

924
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: when you apply ball pressure, it accelerates that process and

925
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: makes every and especially it's especially tests your ability to

926
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: control the pace of the game. Um and what was

927
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: really it's it's a It's a big reason why with

928
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,760
Speaker 1: my high school kids on such a believer in ball pressure,

929
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: because high school kids are terrible at controlling the pace

930
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: of the game offensively, and they're terrible at adapting to

931
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. So if you can apply really

932
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 1: good ball pressure at the high school level, you can

933
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: cripple an offense. UM. It's just kind of like a

934
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 1: basketball philosophy that that I believe in. UM. But it

935
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: was interesting because davy On Mitchell really really rushed th

936
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: HT to the point where he fell apart and it

937
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 1: was bad decision after bad decision after bad decision. Now

938
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,479
Speaker 1: you're not gonna face ball pressure like Davie On Mitchell

939
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: on a nightly basis, so you don't want to overrapped

940
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: to it in terms of his UM, you know, projecting

941
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 1: him as a player moving forward, but it does point

942
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,720
Speaker 1: out a reality of the situation with him on this roster.

943
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: Like you said, this is a team that has championship aspirations,

944
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: but also a team that has a lot of guys

945
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: who can make decisions off the dribble, a lot of

946
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 1: guys that can do what they're asking th HT to do,

947
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: whether that's Molik Monk, Russell Westbrook, Lebron James, even a

948
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: little bit of a d even a little bit of

949
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: Malik Monk, and then obviously Kendrick Nunn's coming back. So

950
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: this isn't a team that can afford to toss th

951
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: h T twenty reps a night as a primary initiator,

952
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: uh and sacrifice whatever you know, comes from that like tonight.

953
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,760
Speaker 1: You know, he was a big part of the reason

954
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 1: why the Lakers were in such a hole to begin

955
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,760
Speaker 1: with was that that sequence that he went on early

956
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: in the game, when he kept turning the ball over.

957
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: So that's where it gets tricky, because I still think

958
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: he's good enough defensively and good enough at attacking closeouts

959
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: that you can play him. And I still think he

960
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: should play uh, you know, even with this this type

961
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: of struggle. But I think putting the ball in his

962
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 1: hands as a primary initiator on this team, I think

963
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: is a risk the Lakers can't afford to take. Um.

964
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: You know, maybe if you're higher up in the standings

965
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: and you had a little bit more of a of

966
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: a buffer zone there, you could get away with it.

967
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: But in this situation, I think you got to take

968
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 1: the ball out of his hands and and try to

969
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 1: lean into him as an off ball player offensively, because

970
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: we've seen him have some success there. And then you're right,

971
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: he's got to start making shots. Guys are closing out

972
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: short blah blah, blah. But I like him, you know,

973
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: attacking a short clothes out more than I like him

974
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: bringing the ball up the floor against pressure and trying

975
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: to dissect the defense. And you can see that really

976
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: really getting his head tonight. So I'm interested to see

977
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: moving forward. Obviously, Frank me at the mid games adjustment

978
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: of just taking him out, but I'd be interested to

979
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: see moving forward if they take the ball out of

980
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: his hands a little bit more in terms as a

981
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 1: primary initiator and just to play like I guess Devil's

982
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: advocate for THD because I think there are two trains

983
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: of thought with him. So we have a team full

984
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 1: of we have three stars, and then we have a

985
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 1: team full of minimum guys. Right the only other guys

986
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: are Kendrick Nunn and t H T, which are on

987
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: mid mid mid level contracts. T H T. T HD

988
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: to me has the biggest gap between what he is

989
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 1: now and what he could be in a few months,

990
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: right when it comes to the playoffs. So I think

991
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: there is some some level of if you want to

992
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 1: develop THHD, and I think it can be worth it.

993
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: So I don't think he's a guy you just throw

994
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: out of the rotation either, and I think that's a

995
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: tough kind of game you play here because there is

996
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: enough talent there. You see it with his on ball skills,

997
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: even when the three doesn't go in. He's obviously a

998
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: guy that likes to put the ball on the ground

999
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: before he shoots, so he does these like beautiful step

1000
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: back almost James Harden like you know three he's even

1001
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: when the defenders not there, he still likes to step back,

1002
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: uh and take like thirty five footers. But I think

1003
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,280
Speaker 1: there's there's something to that because all these other guys

1004
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: you kind of know who they are. I mean, Lake Monk,

1005
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 1: he's still a young guy, but you kind of know

1006
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: he's a microwave score who's he's been playing great. But

1007
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: again Carmelo, Anthony, Wayne Ellington, you know he's gonna be

1008
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,359
Speaker 1: you know what he does on a night at night

1009
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: basis t HD is still you can still look at

1010
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: th HD as this like ball of clay, right and

1011
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: you can still mold it too to be something more

1012
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: than what he is right now. And I think there

1013
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,439
Speaker 1: is a Devil's actvid there to where I think they're

1014
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: the reps that he gets have to be uh controlled,

1015
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 1: Like I think there has to be process put into it.

1016
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 1: I don't think you can just throw him a bunch

1017
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: of on ball, you know, responsibilities. But I think putting

1018
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,439
Speaker 1: him next to lineups where he's he gets to playoff ball,

1019
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: where he gets to have the ball in his hands

1020
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 1: some like. We surround this action for KCP a lot,

1021
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 1: and I would like to see it, uh this year,

1022
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: I don't see it as much where he just KCP

1023
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,439
Speaker 1: would start in the corner, he'd come off a little

1024
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 1: dribble handoff with Dwight Howard. It would be a double

1025
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: screen usually and and he gets to come off and

1026
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 1: to be a easy read. KCP either takes the mid

1027
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: range jumper or even easy either gets it to the

1028
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: rolling man or he swings it to the wing for

1029
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 1: the open three. And like t HT in those spots,

1030
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: it's just too much like Russ th HD at the

1031
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: top of the key trying to decide who attacks on

1032
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: a possession. It hasn't looked pretty when those two share it.

1033
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's like the devil Advocate, I guess because

1034
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: PhD has the biggest gap of what he is now

1035
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: and what he will become. These other guys are kind

1036
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: of minimum players and veterans. Who are who you know,

1037
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: shown what they are in their career. Yeah, no, I

1038
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,760
Speaker 1: get that. And you know my thing is like getting reps,

1039
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: but getting reps that look like what they're going to

1040
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: look like in the highest leverage moments, like exactly like

1041
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: t HD should run pick and roll for us in

1042
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: the playoffs, but it will probably be as a second

1043
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: side creator, meaning like it will be the action that

1044
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 1: you run after the first action fails and for the record,

1045
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: that alleviates there's a reason why you put the lesser

1046
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,479
Speaker 1: player in that position. It's a it's an easier job

1047
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, like like, for instance, like

1048
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: if if Davean Mitchell is ball pressuring the ship out

1049
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: of you. As soon as you get the ball and

1050
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 1: bounds all the way up the floor, you're you're you're

1051
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: just you're wearing yourself out for no reason. But like

1052
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: let's say Lebron brings the ball at the floor, runs

1053
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: a pick and roll. In the pick and roll, Davian

1054
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: Mitchell has to tag into the lane to help on

1055
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: the rollman. As a result, Lebron skips it to th HD.

1056
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 1: Now Davion Mitchell's closing out on you, so you have

1057
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: room to breathe. When you catch, you're not having to

1058
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: bring the ball up the floor against him with a

1059
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: live dribble. Now you're catching it in a triple threat,

1060
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: you have an opportunity to correct and protect the ball,

1061
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 1: either a tact close out or protectible ball. Wait for

1062
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: the screen to come, and you're already in your position

1063
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 1: that you want to be in in order to run

1064
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: that action. That kind of that kind of thing, to me,

1065
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,439
Speaker 1: looks a lot more like what it's going to look

1066
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: like for th HT in the highest leverage moments. So

1067
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: get him, get him a ton of reps like that,

1068
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: you know, Like I again, I'm with you. Don't take

1069
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: him out of the rotation because that's an investment. You

1070
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 1: need to invest in th HT as a guy that

1071
00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: can be a talent boon at the highest left us.

1072
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 1: You know, like Phoenix freaking beat Golden State tonight literally

1073
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 1: without Devin Booker in the second half. They're really really good.

1074
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: Phoenix is really good, Golden States really good. Like you're

1075
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna find yourself in a situation where Lebron

1076
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: and a d might not be enough in a vacuum,

1077
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: or maybe one of them is a little hampered or

1078
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: one of them is not playing well, or maybe a

1079
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: D is still not shooting the ball particularly well. We're

1080
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: gonna need a lot from Russ. We're gonna need a

1081
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: lot from somebody. We're gonna need somebody to be our

1082
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 1: Michal Bridges, you know, We're gonna need somebody to be

1083
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 1: our Jordan Pool, somebody who can make big plays outside

1084
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: of our star power. And maybe that's th h T,

1085
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: and maybe that investment starts today. I just don't think

1086
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: it will look like hair. We're in bounding to th

1087
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: h T and Lebron and Russ are just running the

1088
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: wings and spotting up while we while we let th

1089
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: HD run action. I just don't think that's what it's

1090
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: gonna look like. And so that's the next key is

1091
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: kind of finding out how to you know, kind of

1092
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: invest in th HT while also, you know, making it

1093
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: look like it's actually gonna look like exactly. That's the

1094
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: conjundrum you have when you have a young talent on

1095
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 1: a good team. The Warriors, I think they're going to

1096
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 1: go through it when they get wise men. And you

1097
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 1: see how they're deploying kamina as well in the rotation.

1098
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: They're not just giving comina a bunch of a bunch

1099
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: of minutes, right. He has to earn every minute he gets,

1100
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: so he gets in, he plays hard, plays defense, and

1101
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 1: then that's how he gets minutes. And I think, uh,

1102
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: it's not the same thing with th h two is

1103
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 1: now in your your three, but similar kind of thing.

1104
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 1: He has to earn every minie he gets. He has

1105
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: to defend and uh, play the right way playoff ball,

1106
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 1: and it's not perfect. Dylan obviously wants a ball in

1107
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 1: his hands, but it's just not the role he's in

1108
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 1: right now. But I think he'll get there. I think

1109
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: he's good enough. I think he works hard enough to

1110
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: tell um you could tell the way he works. I

1111
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: think that and a shot to me is better than

1112
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: he's shown. And I wish you would shoot more, honestly, Like,

1113
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: I think he has a better shot than he he

1114
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: he puts up in terms of volume, So I just

1115
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: like him to shoot a little bit more. Teams are

1116
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: closing out short. I think he's too good of a

1117
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: shooter to to keep seeing those up to try to

1118
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: drive in a clog lane. But but Tylon will get there.

1119
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,479
Speaker 1: It's a he's still young, it's he's early. Just durned

1120
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 1: twenty one, So you have to be patient with with

1121
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 1: those kind of players, for sure. Did you have anything

1122
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 1: else you wanted to hit on tonight? Minutes? So it's

1123
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 1: a good stopping point. Uh No, I think that was

1124
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: pretty much. It something to kind of build off of. Oh,

1125
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: I think I saw something here somebody was sharing with me.

1126
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not sure if you saw it. Um

1127
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 1: Harrison tweeted out. And I can kind of summarize it.

1128
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 1: I guess why Howard was told he wasn't gonna play

1129
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: tonight either, um by by Frank Vogel before the yeah

1130
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 1: and so crazy and so he said he was kind

1131
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: of down, but he says he stayed ready, and so

1132
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 1: I guess he. I guess DeAndre Jordan wasn't living up

1133
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: to Frank Vogel's expectation tonight and and Dwight Howard got

1134
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: the minutes. But yeah, that was a postgame from Harrison.

1135
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: Well what's hilarious about that is DeAndre Jordan looked exactly

1136
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 1: the same tonight as he did every other time. Like,

1137
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. I guess the honey moon

1138
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: phase just final tonight, but tonight is the night whatever

1139
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: it is what is it? November thirty one tonight November

1140
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: three tonight is the night guys that the rose colored

1141
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 1: glasses the honeymoon phase between Frank Vogel and DeAndre Jordan's

1142
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: ended because he was playing the same damn basketball he

1143
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: had been playing all season. That is hilarious. Al Right, guys,

1144
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a little bit of a funky

1145
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: rest of the week because the Lakers don't play much.

1146
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 1: I think they play once before next Tuesday. So, um,

1147
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna do Rod is pretty busy with works. I

1148
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: might do some kind of solo pot either Wednesday or Thursday,

1149
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 1: just on some League at Large type stuff. Um. And

1150
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: then we will have a postgame show obviously on Friday

1151
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: after the Clipper game. Um. And then Rog and I

1152
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: will probably do like some sort of film deep dive

1153
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 1: something along those lines in a traditional podcast format on

1154
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: either Saturday or Sunday. We'll figure that part out, um.

1155
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: But obviously, yeah, like the we're used to going every

1156
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: other night and we're heading into a little bit of

1157
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: a gap here. But um, we're definitely going to keep

1158
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: the content coming as always. We really appreciate you guys

1159
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: and your support and rocking with us through through this

1160
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: whole last couple of seasons. Um, this is gonna air

1161
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: on Dash Radios in Long morning at seven am Pacific

1162
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,720
Speaker 1: Standard time, and we'll be on our podcast feed here

1163
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: in about thirty minutes. Thank you guys so much and

1164
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: we will see you in a couple of days. Appreciate it.

1165
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 1: Thanks everyone,