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Speaker 2: The last episode we did of Chuck Norris has received

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Speaker 2: Dan's Chuck Norris fact, Chuck Norris reads Braille, Yes, as

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Speaker 1: What. I don't know whatever you said.

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Speaker 3: All right, I don't know what I said, and it

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Speaker 3: wasn't my fault. It was Dan's for throwing it to me.

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Speaker 2: So there were plenty of people who took issue with

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Speaker 2: me saying that Dan's was just as bad as yours,

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Speaker 3: Then Chuck Norris can rebrail. So well, thank you everyone.

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Speaker 2: Now, we do have an episode coming up about Steven Segaal.

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Speaker 2: I told you that we've got two badasses in a row,

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Speaker 1: We'll do Segal next week because do.

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Speaker 2: You remember I was reading man some of the Instagram

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Speaker 2: I I think I may have read it too, But

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Speaker 1: Do you recall it any.

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Speaker 3: Listen, I remember someone not communicating to Dan that Roberto

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Speaker 3: Duran was going to do this in Spanish.

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Speaker 2: I don't think anyone did communicate with them. Then I

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Speaker 3: What I meant to say is I don't remember anyone

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I'll get to that in a second. So

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Speaker 2: I always tell you if you want to hear something

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Speaker 2: me on Instagram Radio Mark Hawkman on Instagram. I get

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Speaker 2: a ton of dms. Some people just want to say, hey,

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Speaker 2: I've rightly complimented you plenty, but I want to add

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Speaker 2: how much I enjoyed the stuff about the logistics around

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Speaker 2: the show and Radio Wars. It's been an unexpected pleasure

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Speaker 2: hearing Stu Gotts reveal himself to be a smart, savvy

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Speaker 2: It also underscores that for someone often mocked for lack

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Speaker 2: Not many people, having set up the station and presumably

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Speaker 1: There's some truth to that that.

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Speaker 2: People don't know, because Stu Gotts obviously is very good

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Speaker 3: I don't think anyone gets into radio to be the

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Speaker 2: And the guy finishes his direct message, he says, sidebar,

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Speaker 2: was screamingly obvious the show was better for your increased

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Speaker 1: I love it. Thank you Luke from New Zealand. Well,

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Speaker 2: Yes, somebody DMS me and I did DM him back

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Speaker 2: with some with a link. Actually, he says, my request

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Speaker 3: I maintain you can't have enough Caliendo. We should do

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Speaker 1: He loves both of us and we should just keep

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Speaker 3: I'm expecting a ton of downloads for that October episode.

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Speaker 2: Somebody says on DM High Hawk for with Stugotts and Hawkman,

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Speaker 2: can we reminisce about I Gotta tell You. My brother

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Speaker 2: That, especially when some of the stuff we've done is this.

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Speaker 2: He had done a bunch of stuff with Don King before.

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Speaker 2: He was perfect. Sometimes he would come in studio. I

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Speaker 1: So we book Roberto Duran.

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Speaker 2: He's coming for some event in Miami, and this is

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Speaker 2: He really wasn't in that group, but I just wanted

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Speaker 3: By the way, Hank forty, it says somewhere between fourteen

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Speaker 1: So I'm approaching that, which is a getting wild, man wild.

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Speaker 1: Would not believe it. Literally would not believe it. I know.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations man, and much the way that people suggested BAM

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Speaker 1: In deference to Hank, are you really it's a lottery.

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Speaker 1: If you win the lottery, you're not going to do that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, by the way, for those who are big

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Speaker 2: with him. I talk with them every April First, because

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Speaker 1: So every April First I talked.

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Speaker 2: With Joe Bell and we reminisce about that day in

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Speaker 1: Joe Bell, just as.

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Speaker 2: An Aside, suffered a heart attack a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: So those of you who used to listen to QAM,

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Speaker 2: many years now. But yeah, on the men from a

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Speaker 3: Issue, they would make fun of him. That's what hosts do.

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Speaker 3: So you've spoken to him thirteen times, is what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: Once a year. First, what you order at Denny's that night?

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Speaker 1: Do you remember?

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Speaker 2: So I remember what he ordered? I don't think I

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Speaker 2: I mean, he ordered a hangar steak right at Denny's

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Speaker 2: was a hillbilly. Yes, And he ordered a hangar steak. So,

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Speaker 2: And he took a few bites, and then he took

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Speaker 1: Salt all over it.

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Speaker 2: And that's so he wouldn't eat anymore. That's how he

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Speaker 1: He so he would so much salt on it. We

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Speaker 2: This is because I had several meals with him, and

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Speaker 3: Well, he would salt it out. He would, he would

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Speaker 3: over salt it. That's I'm gonna try that. It's not

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Speaker 1: No, it's not.

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Speaker 3: I thought you were going to say he just dripped

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Speaker 1: I mean, but I'm glad away. Well, yes, here it is.

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Speaker 2: This is Roberto Durand so now you know, when we'd

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Speaker 2: I'd be talking to him and I was probably my

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Speaker 2: guess is I just said, are you there, Roberto? Yes, okay,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna be on. Dan Lebtard is the name of

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Speaker 2: the host. His his co host is Stu Gotts. Okay,

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Speaker 2: put them on hold. I give you and Dan the

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Speaker 3: He speaks English, you're thinking, I need to tell Dan

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Speaker 1: We're good at here.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, And because we're already back from commercial break,

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Speaker 2: it's not like I'm trying to get him to record

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Speaker 6: Roberto, how do you react when you're walking around and

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Speaker 4: An glaze much?

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Speaker 6: Okay, that would have been a good thing to know

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Speaker 1: You're the way up. Evander Holyfield and l What I

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Speaker 6: Evander Holyfield when he was on with us this is

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Speaker 6: I asked him about his workout regimen. I'm not now

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Speaker 6: going to get Roberto Duran to comment on it. Roberto

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Speaker 6: my my sentiments exactly. Roberto Durant joins us on seven

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Speaker 6: ninety the ticket. I've begun sweating profusely. I am sweating.

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Speaker 6: I am sweating through my shirt because nobody told me

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Speaker 6: that this was gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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Speaker 6: All right, Roberto, thank you so much for being on.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Okay? Thank you? Did you know how silent

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Speaker 1: I was? What were you gonna do? It was?

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Speaker 2: It was? It was, I mean talk about sweating. We're

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Speaker 1: Remember we had a vander Vander Holyfield on. He couldn't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was so messed up, he couldn't string two

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Speaker 2: and he answered with this, I know. And we we

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Speaker 1: Would play it for any guest who came on.

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Speaker 2: We would say, hey, listen to what Evander Holyfield's exercise

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Speaker 2: don't understand what he's saying, which was the joke. The

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Speaker 2: is just a testament to how panicked he was.

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Speaker 1: Yes, because he couldn't understand Dan.

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Speaker 2: How the hell is he going to get the joke

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Speaker 1: But he was reeling. He was in a tough spot,

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Speaker 1: and then he went to reset.

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Speaker 3: He thought he was going to continue with Duran, and

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Speaker 3: then he ended up not doing it.

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Speaker 1: But not your listen. I hope it doesn't haunt you.

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Speaker 1: I hope it doesn't keep you up at night. He

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Speaker 2: At the end, he realizes this is terrible and he's like,

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Speaker 2: I try English, Nah, Jack, We're good.

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Speaker 4: Chance.

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Speaker 1: Should have played a game of yes or no with them.

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Speaker 1: I play it one more time.

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Speaker 2: Because the way that Dan just launches into the Evander

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Speaker 2: one of the Boozer twins at the end of that

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Speaker 1: Although now that I'm thinking it through, Dan's buying himself

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Speaker 1: some time. That's all he was doing. Dan's buyinglf some time.

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Speaker 2: I can fire off this sound and give me fifteen

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Speaker 2: seconds to recalibrate what I'm doing here, even though there's

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Speaker 2: no saving it. Fifteen seconds he learned to speak English,

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Speaker 2: or maybe the earth will have exploded and none of

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Speaker 2: this will matter one more time because there's so much

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Speaker 2: going on here. Dan comes out of the box. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: good boxing question, Good Roberto Duran question.

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Speaker 1: What's it like to be you? Yes?

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Speaker 3: And people need to realize hawk that Dan is a perfectionist,

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Speaker 3: which is one of the reasons the show.

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Speaker 1: Like he really.

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Speaker 3: Cares about this stuff, and he cares about boxing in

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Speaker 3: a weird way where he turns into like Larry Merchant

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Speaker 3: every time there's a big fight on. He really cares

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Speaker 3: about this sport and he's excited to have Roberto Duran on. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: at that time, as you pointed out, the middleweights were

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Speaker 3: the heavyweights.

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Speaker 1: They were the stars of the sport. Well, this one,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't that that.

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Speaker 2: I mean at that time, it wasn't because it was

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Speaker 2: in the eighties, but this, this is in the early

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Speaker 2: two thousands.

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Speaker 1: Bus Duran was growing up. Roberto Duran was a hero.

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Speaker 3: Yes, definitely, Thomas Hear and Sugar Ray Leonard that that

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Speaker 3: entire that entire class, that was the most exciting class.

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Speaker 2: But man, it goes south like from the first answer

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Speaker 2: he goes, yeah, I don't really speak English and Dan

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Speaker 2: as anyone would. By the way, Dan doesn't know. There's

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Speaker 2: the Luckily Dan speaks Spanish, right.

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Speaker 3: So when Dan says here and the audience is gonna

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Speaker 3: hear it would have been nice to know on the

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Speaker 3: front end. Did you look through him in the glass

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Speaker 3: and say, oh, you're talking English to me?

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Speaker 2: I mean one hundred percent that is a that is

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Speaker 2: a dart in my forehead. Would have been nice to

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Speaker 2: know this beforehand. That is that is an air dart

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Speaker 2: right into my forehead.

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Speaker 1: He's only speaking to one person. Yeah, play it again, Taylor.

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Speaker 6: Roberto, how do you react when you're walking around and

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Speaker 6: you are a very famous fighter, You are very good fighter.

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Speaker 6: Monos de Piedra Hands of Stone. How do you react

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Speaker 6: when you're walking around and people shout.

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Speaker 4: At you and no one slam and Glens is too much.

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Speaker 6: Okay, that would have been a good thing to know

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Speaker 6: before we started this. Let's play for him. You're the

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Speaker 6: way I way up. Vander Holyfield and La. What I

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Speaker 6: asked is Evander Holyfield when he was on with us,

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Speaker 6: this is a disaster. When he was on with US,

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Speaker 6: Evander Holyfield, I asked him about his workout regimen. I'm

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Speaker 6: not now going to get Roberto Durant to comment on it. Roberto,

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Speaker 6: my my sentiments exactly. Roberto Durant joins us on seven

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Speaker 6: ninety the ticket. I've begun sweating profusely. I am sweating.

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Speaker 6: I am sweating through my shirt because nobody told me

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Speaker 6: that this was gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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Speaker 6: All right, Roberto, thank you so much for being on.

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Speaker 4: What's okay? Thank you?

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Speaker 3: Okay, you are so right about the situational awareness.

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Speaker 1: Just hold on to the ball. Just get out a

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Speaker 1: couple other dms. You can't understand you, you think.

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Speaker 4: Nothing.

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Speaker 2: And then he said to him to EXTRACTO, like what

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Speaker 2: do you extract from that?

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Speaker 1: Sound like what? And he responds with hah, which we

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Speaker 1: played on the show.

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Speaker 2: A million times. That became part of the Suey montage.

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Speaker 2: Roberto Duran saying huh yeah, made it worth it. You

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Speaker 2: can DM me if there's something you want to hear

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Speaker 2: on this podcast Radio Mark Hackman on Instagram, or you

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Speaker 2: can just message me something like this, Mark Greetings. I

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Speaker 2: started listening to Levittard when they hit ESPN. I was

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Speaker 2: in the army, so I missed your time on the show.

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Speaker 2: I am also one of the many listeners missing Stu

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Speaker 2: Gotts on the show. I'm living it up in Bali

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Speaker 2: for the last Bali for the last ten years, and

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Speaker 2: my days driving two hours to different parts of the

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Speaker 2: island are made more exciting because you and Stu bring

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Speaker 2: back these past bits and they're fantastic. Hearing you talking

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Speaker 2: about poop shoes had me laughing so damn hard I

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Speaker 2: almost lost control driving my bike down a fucking volcano.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for what you do. You appreciate that. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we thank you for your service, of course. Yes.

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Speaker 2: Oh this is the email for Stu Gotts and Hawkman.

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Speaker 2: Is there any backstory worth telling about the Roberto Duran interview.

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Speaker 2: I just remember it being a very uncomfortable interview for Dan.

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Speaker 2: Those were always some of the funnier moments on the show.

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Speaker 2: Well you just got it.

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Speaker 1: Not what you asked for man somebody. Yeah, this was

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Speaker 1: interesting to me. Mark.

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Speaker 2: Been really enjoying the throwback stuff you've been doing with

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Speaker 2: Stu Gotts. It's what the Butard Show retrospective tried to be. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: when you guys recently did some of your hokey pokey songs,

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Speaker 2: you never got to my favorite one, which I think

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Speaker 2: is an underrated gem. It was the one about Nick

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Speaker 2: Saban not knowing how to throw the challenge flag when

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Speaker 2: he was with the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: Can you find it and play it? I do have

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Speaker 1: that one.

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Speaker 2: I chose not to play it when we did the

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Speaker 2: Poke episode because I didn't think that one was very good.

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Speaker 1: But we will go back and.

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Speaker 2: Play that one because I'll do all the requests that

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Speaker 2: we that we do get.

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Speaker 3: Yes, your request turns into an episode, so we're good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, roberta Duran thing is funny, all right.

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Speaker 2: So we'll get in to the Stephen Sagall at Stephen

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Speaker 2: Sagall episode in the next episode because I have some

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Speaker 2: great cuts from that.

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Speaker 3: But as we said, back to back badasses and you

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Speaker 3: were and you were, and you were apologizing for not

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Speaker 3: having a second badass on we just had Roberto Duran.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 2: To be quite honest, it does fall into the badass theme.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean Roberto duran Is pro would probably kick

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Speaker 3: Steven Segall's ass.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, just yeah, he was a real fighter.

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Speaker 2: Really well though, it's all I guess, would consider himself

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Speaker 2: a real fighter. All right, as we end every with

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Speaker 2: Steve gottson Hawkman, you have to name three nicknames from athletes.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm nervous, stand musual stand the man? Right? Oscar

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Speaker 1: de la Joya? Oh the kid? So no, this could

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Speaker 1: be a tough one for me. Resets to one. Oh

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Speaker 1: we go back. Yeah, you gotta get three in a row. Oscar,

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Speaker 1: I don't know it. Golden Boy, the Golden Boy? What

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Speaker 1: did I call him? The kid?

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Speaker 3: That was Ken Griffy Junior? Jesus, all right, go ahead,

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Speaker 3: rayfer Alston sweets something.

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Speaker 1: Skip to my lou. Did you know that Taylor too?

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Speaker 4: Damn it?

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Speaker 3: God, we spent a lot of time on Raypah Austin

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Speaker 3: skipped to my Lou. I haven't thought about rayper Austen

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Speaker 3: in a long time. Anyway, God, would you? I don't know,

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Speaker 3: I mean, Jesus, I'm very disappointed. I'm very disappointed with

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Speaker 3: Oscar de la Hoya. If I'm being honest, Pete Rose,

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Speaker 3: Charlie Hustle, all right, don't get disappointed.

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Speaker 1: You can't go man at myself.

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Speaker 3: I mean skip to my fucking loud Jesus Christ, Frank Thomas,

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Speaker 3: Big Hurt, and uh Joe Namath Broadway.

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Speaker 1: Joey's overrated. I cannot believe I got skipped to my

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Speaker 1: lou wrong. I mean rafer Alston Stories next show. We'll

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Speaker 1: see you on the next Pod with Stu Gotts and

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Speaker 1: Hawkman