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Speaker 1: There's a ton of budget buzz I saw yesterday. Kirby

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Speaker 3: you know, to win the I bet like you just said,

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Speaker 3: plus six fifty to win the SEC because the talent

433
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,439
Speaker 3: is certainly that they're getting much much closer and closing

434
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 3: that gap. And if all these transfer portal pieces come together,

435
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,400
Speaker 3: especially on defense, they're they're more well coached on defense

436
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 3: now as well from a coordinator perspective, So they're closing

437
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:30,200
Speaker 3: that gap. If the defense and the trenches are there

438
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,880
Speaker 3: and the transfer portal pieces get together, yeah, they're they're

439
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 3: right there. And like you said, they get to post Georgia,

440
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,880
Speaker 3: they won't be a huge underdog in that game. It's

441
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 3: a game they certainly can win. I also don't mind

442
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 3: speaking another team that brought in a really good transfer class.

443
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Speaker 3: Looking at some upside on Texas, A and M maybe

444
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 3: to potentially make the collegewall playoff. We talked about this

445
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Speaker 3: before the show. When do you want to bet these features?

446
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 3: Gott to type your money for so long. The reason

447
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 3: I bet Texander win the collegewall wealf one. They have

448
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,120
Speaker 3: a ton of talent, and I think the coaching upgrade

449
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,439
Speaker 3: is huge bringing an alcoh Jimbo Fisher, he just had

450
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 3: a guy. It was just time and he was running

451
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 3: such an antiquated offense. They were so conservative and so

452
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Speaker 3: I think this is just gonna be a much more

453
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 3: serious team. They've always had talent. They still have a

454
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Speaker 3: ton of talent. Can their quarterbacks stay healthy? They're I

455
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,960
Speaker 3: mean they're due, They've had quarterback injuries for years. But

456
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Speaker 3: the reason I bet Texts A and M is I

457
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Speaker 3: think they beat Notre Dame in Week one and that's

458
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Speaker 3: a huge game to playoff contenders. Where where is that

459
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 3: game in Texas A and M and H in College station?

460
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Speaker 3: If you look at Texas A and M schedule, they

461
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Speaker 3: have a really manageable road schedule and all of their

462
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,679
Speaker 3: hardest games are at home, one of the best home

463
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 3: field advantages in all of college football. So everyone caught

464
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Speaker 3: you know, Missourial miss they and you know they they

465
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 3: missed a lot of the they missed Georgia, so their

466
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 3: schedule is is very manageable. And they host Texas at

467
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Speaker 3: the end of the year, you know, maybe be about

468
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 3: a field goal underdog, and they host Notre Dame to

469
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Speaker 3: start the year. Those are two huge games. I think

470
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Speaker 3: they win that not a big resume boosting game, and

471
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Speaker 3: that means that they're ahead of the curve. They win

472
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 3: that game and they look good, that price is gonna

473
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Speaker 3: come down. So that's one team that I wanted to

474
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Speaker 3: bet to make the playoff before Week one. But speaking

475
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Speaker 3: of you know, when to bet is a new market,

476
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Speaker 3: So to make the College tuble playoff, to miss the

477
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Speaker 3: college football playoff, I assume this market's going to be

478
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Speaker 3: up during the year, So it's a new market for

479
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Speaker 3: odds makers too. So I think that there's going to

480
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 3: be some opportunity, which we could talk about during the

481
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Speaker 3: season to bet some teams, you know, to make the

482
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Speaker 3: COLLEGEWABLL playoff after a loss and figuring out that puzzle.

483
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Speaker 3: That's what's going to make this more interesting, is these

484
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Speaker 3: teams to make or miss the College tub playoff in

485
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Speaker 3: that market throughout the season, which I'm excited for.

486
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Speaker 1: Well, last year, I think the Rams when they were

487
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Speaker 1: like three and six to make the playoffs, they were

488
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Speaker 1: like twenty five or thirty to one or you know

489
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Speaker 1: something outrageous, and obviously you know that's the thing. Now,

490
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Speaker 1: the odds on a on a blue blood program probably

491
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Speaker 1: won't quite get to that unless you're like two and five,

492
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 1: you know, or something. Right, but the lump all ump

493
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 1: Notre Dame in with the acc schools. Obviously, Florida State

494
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,479
Speaker 1: gets DJU. You get Clemson, who doesn't mess with the portal,

495
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:22,719
Speaker 1: but he recruits well at Miami or Miami who landed

496
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,959
Speaker 1: a quarterback that everyone loves. He's got a lot of talent,

497
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Speaker 1: the cam Ward. They paid him a lot of money.

498
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Speaker 1: But if you watch him in Washington State, which pretty

499
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 1: good program, depends on the week you watched them, it

500
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: was kind of all over the map. Yeah, but no

501
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 1: one disputed his physical Like he's got NFL traits and

502
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Speaker 1: Notre Dame, so Notre Dame, Miami, Clems in Florida State.

503
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Speaker 1: I mean, there's a chance two of those four of

504
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Speaker 1: them get in the playoffs, right, if you assume six

505
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Speaker 1: seven ish sec Big ten, maybe two of them, one

506
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: Big twelve, one of the random non power five, which

507
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Speaker 1: I'm even shocked if they allowed that. That feels like

508
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 1: my take on that would be like, yeah, a non

509
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: power five team can get in, but you're not automatically in.

510
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: That's how I would do it. And they would say, well,

511
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: then we'll never get in. I would say bullshit, because

512
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Speaker 1: you're gonna have years when the Boise States or whoever

513
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: have such a good year, they're gonna get in. But

514
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 1: I don't like automatically letting them in because what if

515
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: like a nine and three Notre Dame or Miami that's

516
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 1: clearly better than like whoever eleven and one you picked

517
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Speaker 1: the team, It's like, give me a break. It's just

518
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Speaker 1: it's just not the same.

519
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't mind that if they had like a

520
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 3: qualifier that like if the the highest rated group of

521
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 3: five team, if they're ranked inside this number, right, because

522
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Speaker 3: then that would that's kind of your quality qualifier.

523
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Speaker 1: So many of those programs don't have any big time wins,

524
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Speaker 1: so it's like, how do I even compare them to

525
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Speaker 1: like a nine and three Miami who beat Notre Dame,

526
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Speaker 1: you know, or like not even comparable.

527
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like, yeah, there's we're gonna see. The

528
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 3: good thing is, which I think will hurt for this

529
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Speaker 3: if you're looking at the Group of five market, if

530
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 3: you're looking at you know, teams that are in the mix,

531
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Speaker 3: you have like Boise State Memphis. The good thing with

532
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 3: those teams is Boise State in Memphis is like Boise

533
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 3: will play Oregon, Memphis will play Florida State, so that

534
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 3: we'll see like them go off against car teams. The

535
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 3: thing with Liberty last year and Liberty this year is

536
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 3: they play nobody, right, so they could go like eleven

537
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Speaker 3: and one to twelve. And I mean Liberty schedule is Campbell,

538
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Speaker 3: New Mexico State, utep ECU, APP State, FIU, Kennessaul, Jacksonville State,

539
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Speaker 3: Middle Tennessee, UMass, Sam Houston. Like so last year had

540
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 3: a hell of a season. They went played Oregon in

541
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Speaker 3: a bowl game and they lost forty five to six.

542
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Speaker 3: So I think it's gonna hurt them this year because

543
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 3: people have that perception and you know, once again this

544
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Speaker 3: year they don't play anybody. But so yeah, I wouldn't

545
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Speaker 3: mind that as well. I think yeah, from that group

546
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Speaker 3: that you mentioned, acc Champ's going to get in Notre Dame.

547
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Speaker 3: Probably their schedule is very favorable. If they win Texas,

548
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Speaker 3: if they beat Texan am, which I don't think that

549
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Speaker 3: they're because I mean, I mean, I shouldn't say they're in,

550
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 3: but they're gonna be heavy favorites to get in because

551
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 3: they'll be few.

552
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Speaker 1: Do you like their quarterback situation getting the Duke kid

553
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 1: more than Sam Hartman last year who kind of obviously

554
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: once they started playing real teams kind of fill apart.

555
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Speaker 3: It's really interesting that the if Notre's gonna have a

556
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 3: really good defense, I think that Notre name tex A

557
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 3: and m game. Look at that under uh. I know

558
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 3: it's taking some money, but I still like it if

559
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 3: if Hartman had it's really because they just haven't been

560
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 3: able to put it all together because they lost both tackles.

561
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,959
Speaker 3: They lost their tackles to the NFL, and then they

562
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 3: are their tackle who's going to start on the left

563
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 3: side is now out for the year. Yeah, probably starting

564
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Speaker 3: a freshman. But if they had their tackles and from

565
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Speaker 3: last year and their receivers from this year and Hartman Man,

566
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Speaker 3: this would be a national title contender with that defense.

567
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 3: So Leonard, I don't he's not as good of a

568
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 3: passer as Hartman, and he's not gonna have as good

569
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 3: as tackles, but he has better receivers. Like they went

570
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 3: out in the portal and got some really good receivers

571
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 3: last year the receivers were bad. Oh and and Leonard

572
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 3: can run better than Hartman. But Hartman is definitely a

573
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 3: better passer, but he just he just didn't have the

574
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 3: receivers last year to really get it done. But among

575
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 3: those among that group, I'm not the ward is too inconsistent.

576
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 3: Marrio Crystal ball hell of a recruiter, and that team

577
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 3: has is loaded with talent across the board on both sides.

578
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 3: A little concerned about the secondary, but Crystal is probably

579
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 3: gonna cost them a game or two. Like it's just

580
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 3: what he does. Last year with Georgia Tech did didn't

581
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 3: take a knee that happened five years earlier when he

582
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Speaker 3: was at Oregon. He didn't take a knee cost me

583
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 3: money against Stamford and they fumbled. Stamford got the ball

584
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 3: with an under a minute to go. They could have

585
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 3: right out the clock with his knees, and they ended

586
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 3: up winning in overtime. Like, learn from your mistakes at

587
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 3: least so I don't trust him to win, to not

588
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 3: drop a game or two. So that leads me. And

589
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 3: with Florida State Dju, I just I don't trust him.

590
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,959
Speaker 3: If Florida State lost a lot of talent, he did

591
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 3: have a good portal class. But I don't trust Dju

592
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 3: to be that passer in known passing downs when you

593
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,959
Speaker 3: know the running game's not working, when the play actions

594
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 3: not working, known third downs. I just don't think he's

595
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 3: consistent enough of a passer. So I have some Clemson

596
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 3: to win the ACC Clemson to make the College twelve Playoff.

597
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 3: It's kind of the post type of Garrett Riley right

598
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 3: after his TCU Everyone's all in on Garrett Riley with

599
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 3: Club Nick was a ton of talent. It just didn't work.

600
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 3: I mean, they had no exposed toness on the offense,

601
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 3: but they did have a ton of injuries. I think

602
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 3: the offensive line should be better, the weapons should be better.

603
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 3: I love these two freshmen. They brought in a wide

604
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 3: receiver who could get playing time right away, and I

605
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 3: think Riley, with the full off season, can Clublic take

606
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 3: that next step. It's kind of similar questions to what

607
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 3: you have with Aler at Penn State. But you know

608
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 3: the defense is going to be good. So yeah, I

609
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: like I like Clemson mainly. Part of it is because

610
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 3: I don't like some of the other teams in the ACC,

611
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 3: so I sprinkled on them to make the playoff and

612
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 3: then then win the ACC.

613
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Speaker 1: Okay, last question before we go to the NFL. Ohio State.

614
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: I saw Urban say that he was talking with Trestle.

615
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: He's like, this probably the most talented team top to

616
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: bottom they've had. Talked to an NFL buddy, He's like, listen,

617
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Speaker 1: I'm not the biggest Will Howard guy, but he's definitely

618
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: an upgrade over the guy last year. You get chip

619
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Speaker 1: In who likes running the quarterback. What this guy can

620
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: do slow the game down a little bit, play a

621
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Speaker 1: little less like they have, you know with the CJ.

622
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Speaker 1: Stroud and previously once Ryan Day got there and just

623
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Speaker 1: beat you up, almost like at Georgia Alabama. I mean,

624
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Speaker 1: do you think Ohio State should and will win the

625
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Speaker 1: national Championship? I mean, just on talent alone, are they

626
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Speaker 1: the best team? Yeah?

627
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Speaker 3: I think the thing is is that Oregon is not

628
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 3: too far away, and they're just I mean, they have

629
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 3: so much talent too, and they have a better quarterback

630
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 3: situation with Dylan Gabriel. Maybe that's the difference. Like that

631
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 3: game at Oregon, that's basically gonna be a coin flip

632
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,239
Speaker 3: when Ohio State goes Oregan, but both teams should make

633
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 3: the Coswall cloff. The difference is that Ohio State defense.

634
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 3: That Ohio State defense is loaded under Jym Knowles with

635
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 3: experience and talent. So yeah, I think we're all talent wise,

636
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 3: Ohio State probably leads to pack. But it's it's a

637
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 3: clear three horse race with Ohio State, Georgia and Oregon.

638
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 3: And we'll see if there's another team from that second

639
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 3: tier that can jump up or maybe one of those

640
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 3: teams you know, takes a step back. And but those

641
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 3: are the three most talented teams. I think I would

642
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 3: probably classify Ohio State as number one in that department.

643
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 3: It's uh, it comes down to the quarterback. That's like

644
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 3: I agree Howard is an upgrade, but it's not like

645
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 3: if they had it Dylan Gabriel, it would be a difference.

646
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: What your what's your take on Gabriel? Obviously he was

647
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: good last year, He's played a ton is it a

648
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: little downgrade over bow Knicks, but their team is better

649
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: or you know, obviously most people. I mean, to put

650
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: up bow Knicks numbers feels a little outrageous, but I

651
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: would imagine. I mean, this guy's played the last two

652
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: years of Oklahoma, so he used to the bright lights.

653
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I think it is a more upside

654
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 3: passing like downfield, Uh, what Nicks does very well. I

655
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 3: mean the short passing using his legs. That's what Sean

656
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 3: Payton's going to try to utilize, right all that it's

657
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 3: kind of like what he was trying to do with

658
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 3: Wilson last year. But Nicks actually isn't washed up with

659
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 3: his legs right, and he can move around, so he's

660
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 3: probably gonna do a lot of those same things that

661
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 3: we saw Gabriel more competent, like downfield aggressive passer question.

662
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 3: So yeah, I don't I don't think it's much of

663
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 3: the drop off, if at all. The question with Gabriel's

664
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 3: the concussions. Can he can he stay health's He's suffered

665
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 3: a couple. That's the only thing I would really worry about.

666
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 3: But that Oregon team is loaded. That Ohio stated at

667
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 3: Oregon game is gonna be awesome.

668
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: Okay, let's go to the National Football League. Just big picture.

669
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: I was texted with a buddy on a really good

670
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: NFC team and he's like, I think the NFC is

671
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: because the last couple of years we lean the AFC

672
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: was better, right, quarterbacks, the depth of talent, I don't

673
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: really see it there. I like, to me, they're equals. Now.

674
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: I'm not saying like that means the NFC is gonna

675
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl, but like as we saw the

676
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, the NF when the Niners the Chiefs plays

677
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: a fucking coin flip. But my point is top to bottom,

678
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: it's really hard to win the NFC. I mean, if

679
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: these teams parlay what they did last year, you know,

680
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: the Packers a lion stay good. Obviously, the Bears, now

681
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: we know the Niners and Rams are good. The Eagles

682
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: are loaded with talent. I don't think Dallas is necessarily

683
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: they might not be a twelve win team, but they

684
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: they definitely are a ten win team in my eyes.

685
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: And I saw just and rightfully so, because the Chiefs

686
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: constantly win the Super Bowl. The on DraftKings, the AFC

687
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: was like minus one forty or one thirty five to

688
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl and the NFC was plus one

689
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: oh five. So if you go, well, if the NFC

690
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: is just as good, like you're getting plus odds, what's

691
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: your take overall on the conferences? Because I think where

692
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: we stood, like, are the Ravens as good? Like I

693
00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be good, but are they as good

694
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: as they were last year? How can they be?

695
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 3: Like?

696
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: Losing Mike McDonald's pretty big deal. I'm sorry the guy

697
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: was fucking nicknamed boy genius.

698
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 3: Huge deal. And I mean it's gonna help Seattle a lot,

699
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 3: I think, and I also love that offensive coordinator eye

700
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 3: that Seattle. But yeah, I think that you're right. And

701
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 3: I think you can start with the NFC North and

702
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 3: how much improved that division is, and you have four

703
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 3: teams that are on the come up. I know, the

704
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 3: Vikings lost Cousins. Who goes to the Falcons? Who now

705
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 3: makes them a more serious player? Right? You look at

706
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 3: the Falcons last year? The question was quarterback, right, and

707
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 3: I mean, how many times the Desmond ritterd just here

708
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 3: he goes the ball and cost him the game. So

709
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 3: now you're bringing cousins, you draft Panics, so they're a

710
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 3: much more serious contender. And yeah, but the NFC North

711
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 3: the Bears, the question was quarterback, and now you draft

712
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,399
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams was as much talent as any prospect seen.

713
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 3: And look, the Packers saw what Jordan Loved did in

714
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 3: the second half of last year. The Lions are one

715
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 3: of the best teams in the NFC. They're building out

716
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 3: their roster, and the Vikings from a coaching standpoint, another

717
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 3: quarterback situation, it'sn't great, but they're gonna be in every game.

718
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,720
Speaker 3: O'Connell is one of the best coaches in the NFL.

719
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 3: Brian Ford, excuse me, Brian Floor is one of the

720
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 3: best defensive coordinators. What he's doing. I got talked about

721
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 3: the Fangio tree them, Now the McDonald tree, saw the

722
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 3: Cover three tree. Flora's is the lone wolf he is.

723
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 3: I mean last year Cover two is dying. He led

724
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 3: the league and Cover two he led the league. In

725
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 3: Cover zero, he would have the formations and exotic blitzes

726
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 3: and looks that he was using to confuse opposing quarterbacks.

727
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 3: That guy is a genius.

728
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: He might hate two of but he knows how to

729
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: scheme defense.

730
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 3: Yes, he certainly does. And so yeah, I mean, the

731
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 3: Vikings won't be an easy out, so I think, and

732
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 3: the Panthers won't be as bad as last year for sure.

733
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 3: So yeah, now I probably wouldn't tie up my money

734
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 3: for that long on on on that bet. But yeah,

735
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 3: I think that with these these conferences are now much

736
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 3: closer to even I don't think the Ravens are as

737
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 3: good as Raves since that last year was the Ravens year.

738
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 3: I mean, you had Lamar Jackson MVP year, you had

739
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 3: health which they haven't had in the previous years. On offense,

740
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 3: I know they lost keithon Mitchell, but the you know,

741
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 3: pretty across the board, they were pretty healthy, and you

742
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 3: have McDonald in that defense. Yeah, I mean that was

743
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,439
Speaker 3: that every day. They were the best team.

744
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: They had killed the Niners on Christmas. I mean that

745
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: was a good matchup for him, and uh yeah, it was.

746
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 3: Everything was there, and the game plan against the Chiefs

747
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 3: was just atrocious. They decided to way, We're not gonna run,

748
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 3: We're not gonna throw play action, We're gonna turn Lamar

749
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 3: into a drop back passer, even though the Chiefs are

750
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 3: have an elite pasty and I don't I think they

751
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 3: overthought themselves. I don't know what they were doing, but

752
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 3: the Ravens are not as good defensive staff loss as

753
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 3: McDonald lost are big, and they even have some personnel

754
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 3: losses they think they could. The secondary is still gonna

755
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 3: be really good. You know, you still have Roku on there.

756
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 3: It's gonna be really good defense, but soccer be as

757
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 3: good as it was last year, like the first defense

758
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 3: in NFL history to lead the league, and you know,

759
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 3: scoring takeaways and sacks not gonna be that. And their

760
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 3: offensive line major question mark. The offensive line loses three starters.

761
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 3: You canna be relying on a couple of rookies another

762
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 3: guy with a position change. So I think they take

763
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,919
Speaker 3: a step back. The Bills take a step back. Bills again,

764
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,439
Speaker 3: you could blame Mahomes. They had their their window. It's

765
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 3: still cracked a little bit, but the last couple of

766
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 3: years they were right in the mix and just couldn't

767
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 3: get over the hump of the Chiefs. And now I

768
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 3: think that they're gonna be They're gonna be worse off.

769
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 3: I you know, you lose talent at wide receiver and

770
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 3: on the defensive end, I'm really worried. You lose Milano.

771
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 3: Now Milano's hurt, he's the quarterback of that defense. You

772
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 3: lose both your safeties who are super important in a

773
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 3: McDermott defense on the back end. Uh, you know, it's

774
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 3: more zone heavy, but they're they're safeties and they had

775
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 3: Poyer and hide there Forever he saw with the Bengals

776
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 3: last year when their defense took a big step back

777
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 3: after they lost their main stays at safety, I think

778
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,479
Speaker 3: he was gonna see a similar thing with the Bills

779
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 3: this year. And now they have a couple of the

780
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 3: guys they are relying on a step in are hurt.

781
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 3: You might have Hamlin and Taylor Rapp starting Week one

782
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 3: at safety on the back end. That's not great. So

783
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 3: I think the Bills also take a slight step back.

784
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 3: So yeah, you have some of these AFC teams that

785
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 3: I think are taking a slight step back in the NFC.

786
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 3: This is all cyclical, is you know, when teams are bad,

787
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:25,919
Speaker 3: they're going to get better draft picks and start building

788
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 3: up their rosters. So I would agree with you. I

789
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 3: think these two conferences are much closer to even than

790
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 3: they have been in previous years.

791
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: Okay, I want to hit you with a team that

792
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: you like more than the market likes, and I'll start

793
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 1: with mine. Every one of their mothers picking in Atlanta, obviously.

794
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: Last week they add Judah, they add Justin Simmons, They've

795
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: already put Pennix on ice because they clearly don't want

796
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: any controversy there. I think that's one's clear. The Saints,

797
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: who went nine to eight last year. I think if

798
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: you just pulled the average fan, maybe I'll won six

799
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: to seven games. They went nine and eight. Now, the

800
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: granted they got hot at the end, but Derek was

801
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: an abomination the first half of the season. They add

802
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: Kubiak from the Niners, who you know, I feel pretty

803
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: confident when a McVeigh kyle guy gets hired. We saw

804
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,439
Speaker 1: last year with slow expect these guys, especially someone's whose

805
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: dad like this guy knows the offense like the back

806
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: of his fucking hand. It's a family business. So their

807
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,240
Speaker 1: offense is going to be better. And I think their defense,

808
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to overreact to a preseason game, but

809
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: they were good on defense last year. You watch their

810
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: defense against like they're gonna be good on defense plus

811
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: three eighty to win the division when like, if they

812
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: just got decent quarterback play last year in probably fifty

813
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: percent of the games, they probably win ten eleven games. Well,

814
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 1: I think Derek's going to be much better this year

815
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 1: in this offense, which is much you know, tailored for

816
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: make to make it easier on quarterbacks. They have good

817
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 1: offensive personnel. I mean, Taysom Hill is not a quarterback,

818
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: but he's a good player. A lave that Kamara, Like

819
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,439
Speaker 1: they got players. I like the Saints this year plus

820
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: three eighty to win the division, plus one seventy to

821
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. Like, I think they're gonna be a factor.

822
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: And I'm not acting like Atlanta's gonna suck, but I

823
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: am shorting them a little bit because I think a

824
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 1: little like the Steelers, it just can get weird, and

825
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 1: it can get weird fast when you got really famous

826
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: quarterbacks making a lot of money. Now Cousins is better

827
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: than anything going on in Pittsburgh, obviously, but like they

828
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: paid him a lot of money and now he's got

829
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 1: this guy who's gonna resonate more with the younger players,

830
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: who's a plug and play player. It's not like he's

831
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,240
Speaker 1: some I just think that's got a situation to get weird.

832
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: So I like the Saints this year.

833
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 3: Yeah. The reason I would disagree with you is number one.

834
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 3: I completely agree with you on the offense last year

835
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 3: very stale, no motion, just not enough play action. And

836
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 3: now you bring in the Shanahan guy, it's gonna be

837
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 3: a much more helpful system for Car and any quarterback.

838
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 3: It's just gonna be a more modern offense and harder

839
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 3: to defend from a defensive perspective, So upgrade there. I'm

840
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 3: not the biggest Dennis Allen believer as a head coach,

841
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 3: really good defensive quarternator. You could say, look, you got Car.

842
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 3: You have a arguably as long as they stay healthy,

843
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 3: a top ten defense. You know, you bring in a

844
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 3: couple of guys with Willie Gay and the defense was

845
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 3: really good last year. You have a really good secondary

846
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 3: and aging defensive line. Some questions there, but the defense

847
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 3: is going to be above average. The question for me,

848
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 3: so Dennis Allen good there with how he coaches, is

849
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 3: too high cover, you know, man heavy defense. The question

850
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 3: though for me and Allen is zero to five win

851
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 3: totals going over is the offensive line and that really

852
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 3: could hold everything back. He lost Pete Ramcheck won't play

853
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 3: for the season. Huge loss. So now you know you're

854
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 3: relying on a rookie left tackle. You're moving Penning over

855
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 3: Trevor Penning over from left right. I think he's a bust.

856
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 3: We'll see if he can actually put it all together,

857
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 3: especially in pass protection. So, and the rookie is playing

858
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 3: left tackle, played right tackle in college. Penning, who was

859
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 3: playing left tackle, is now going to try to play

860
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 3: right tackle.

861
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: So you know, I think I think the rookies it's hard.

862
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,919
Speaker 1: Left tackles hard in the NFL. He's a good player, Yeah,

863
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: that will mean that that will be big.

864
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 3: I mean, Lucas Patrick at guard is not good. So

865
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 3: if he can hit, that will take him a long way.

866
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 3: Because what Car needs is protection like he has his offense.

867
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 3: Car is not going to beat you with his legs.

868
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 3: He's and if you look at cars numbers, they're great

869
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 3: when he has time, and they fall off a cliff

870
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 3: when he's under pressure. He's not the most mobile guy.

871
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 3: So can he get the enough protection because last year

872
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 3: he didn't and the offensive line is worse. And last

873
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 3: year he what that sprained ac joint and he was

874
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,839
Speaker 3: hurt early in the season. He was he got another spring.

875
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 3: You think he sprained it again late in the season,

876
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 3: Yet he was getting hurt all year. So can he

877
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 3: stay upright and get enough protection for this offense to

878
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 3: run because yeah, they have talented weapons. It'll be a

879
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 3: much more well schemed offense. That will be my only question.

880
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 3: But I don't hate your trying to if I had

881
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,439
Speaker 3: to bet a longer shot to win the division, because yeah,

882
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 3: the Falcons at Juda and Simmons were big. So now

883
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 3: they have two good safeties. They needed a pass rusher.

884
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 3: They had none on the team, And that's what I

885
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 3: would have done with a top ten pick. You already

886
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 3: signed Cousins, Like why are you drafting Penis with don't

887
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 3: sign Cousins in draft Pennis or you know, sign Cousins.

888
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 3: Use that pick because you're Hey, you're a contender. Now

889
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 3: you're a favorite to win the Use that for a

890
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 3: pass rusher, which you needed. So at least they addressed that.

891
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 3: But there are questions because Cousins, is he going to

892
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 3: be fully healthy right older? They just think he just

893
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 3: turned thirty six coming off from Achilles' injury, but don't

894
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 3: know how that will impact him. So yeah, they think

895
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 3: that they're a tad over valued. I think the Bucks

896
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 3: take a step back. Baker Mayfield loses canals. That was

897
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 3: as good as you're going to see him. They were

898
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 3: pretty fortunate in a number of metrics. I don't think

899
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,240
Speaker 3: that their defense. Their offensive line still has questions, especially

900
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 3: in the interior. So I think the Bucks take a

901
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 3: step back. The Panthers will be better. Yeah, if you're

902
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 3: gonna tap the Falcons, I think the Saints are the

903
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 3: answer for the division, But I just worry about that

904
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 3: offensive line. I think it ultimately might hold them back.

905
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: I think if there was a do over of free agency,

906
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 1: it would be Cousins signs with the Raiders and the

907
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: Atlanta signs Wilkins. Like they flipped up those two moves

908
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: because it makes sense for both teams. You just put

909
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: Pennix in. He's the Atlanta Falcons quarterback. If I told

910
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: you the Raiders had a healthy Cousins, they'd be a

911
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: lot more interesting than their situation now. And that leads

912
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: me to Denver who what's your take on just the

913
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: over reaction. Are they better than people think? I mean,

914
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: they're six to one to make the playoffs. At first

915
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: was high on the Chargers, and then they've had so

916
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: many injuries and at any moment, one of those d

917
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 1: linemen can get hurt. I just don't know. I kind

918
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: of waffle back and forth. I do think I wonder

919
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: if the AFC is a little more open at like

920
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: the six and seven seed, and it has it has

921
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: been the last couple of years, like it's been a

922
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: battle going into December. You know Pennis or excuse me,

923
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: not Pennis, but bo Nix, who has the longest odds

924
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 1: of all the starters for the rookie class, right Caleb

925
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: heavy favorite to win offensive Rookie of the Year. Jaden

926
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: like five to one. He opened at like sixteen seventy

927
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: to one. Now I checked yesterday it was down to

928
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: eleven to one, where it's fourteen to one last week,

929
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,959
Speaker 1: so that number has been going down. He's just gonna

930
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 1: run his offense and maybe they're wide receivers aren't as

931
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: bad as people the way you just casually talk. Defensively,

932
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: it got a little better as the season went on,

933
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: still a question mark. I don't know.

934
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:34,919
Speaker 3: Their defense is not gonna be great.

935
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 1: But you know, what's your take on just the reaction

936
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 1: to Denver. He here's the other thing. I don't care

937
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: who you are, whether it's you know your girlfriend, whether

938
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: it's a boss or someone you work with. When you

939
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: like the person you're with, or working with it makes

940
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: life a little bit easier. Sean Payton hated Russell Wilson.

941
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: Sean Payton really likes this guy, Like that's that's worth

942
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: something in my book.

943
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean think that brought because the problem is

944
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 3: it's not a very talented roster. Overall, the defense improved.

945
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 3: It was horrendous early. Then they benefited from just like

946
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 3: a lot of turnovers and it wasn't as good as

947
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,879
Speaker 3: the improvement was, but they definitely improved. I mean it's

948
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 3: hard not to barb was very low from early in

949
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 3: the season when they gave up what seventy points in

950
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 3: a game Son, But you know I didn't the defense

951
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,720
Speaker 3: got worse, Like you just from a who they lost

952
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 3: and who they they didn't really bring in much and

953
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 3: I mean they're still playing ross a ton of money,

954
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 3: so it's not like they improved a ton. You're hoping

955
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 3: the quarterback play gets better. I think Nick's like what

956
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 3: you're betting on there, because Yeah, I'm lower on the

957
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 3: Chargers because I don't think that it's gonna take I

958
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 3: like the hardball higher, and I like Minter. I just

959
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 3: don't think he has the pieces yet to run the defense.

960
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 3: How he wants to speifically. The defensive line, the secondary.

961
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 3: The depth on that Chargers team too, is bad, bad,

962
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 3: And you have a quarterback in Justin Herbert who's dealing

963
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 3: with Planner fasciat. That's gonna be a link issue and

964
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 3: he has to be out or gets hurt, and it's

965
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 3: gonna it's gonna impact how he moves his plant maybe

966
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 3: a huge question because if he can't go for any

967
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 3: stretch of time, you're down to East and stick, which

968
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 3: isn't great, and your pass catchers aren't great. And we

969
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 3: saw that offense work last year when Alan and Williams

970
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 3: were out. So I think the Chargers will be better

971
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 3: off for that higher but it's gonna take a couple

972
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 3: of years to get that roster in the shape that

973
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 3: Harball wants it. So yeah, I don't think. I think

974
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 3: I like the Chargers under. If you could find like

975
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 3: an under nine, I think is out there. I like that. Well,

976
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 3: you're betting on with the broncos Is. You're betting on

977
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 3: Sean Payton a lot of it. So I mean, this

978
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 3: is a guy that's never lost fewer than seven games

979
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 3: in his career, averaged ten point six wins. You know,

980
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 3: over a twenty plus year stretch. So it's a guy

981
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 3: who just knows how to win. I think Nicks can

982
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 3: run his offense. He's gonna be just like kind of

983
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 3: like a fresher version of what Russell Wilson gave him,

984
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 3: with more mobility and less washability.

985
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: So I don't know.

986
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 3: I yeah, if you want to take a shot on

987
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 3: them to make the playoffs. If you know, if I

988
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 3: were to bet on one team in that division to

989
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 3: win the division, it would probably be the Broncos. And

990
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 3: you know what you're doing there, Like, first of all,

991
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:25,919
Speaker 3: betting against We just talked about this, betting against, betting

992
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 3: against Andy Reid. Patrick Malmes never smart and I think

993
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 3: he's gone nine to two to the over and his

994
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 3: two when he's in can'tas sit in the win total

995
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 3: seventy five percent of the time in his career, Andy

996
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 3: Reid to the over. The only two times they didn't

997
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 3: go over, they lost by a half game. What you're

998
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 3: betting on if you wanted to take a long shots,

999
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 3: I think he would just take the longest shot in

1000
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 3: the division. And you're betting on does Mahomes get hurt?

1001
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: Right?

1002
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 3: And if he if he does, when, Yeah, the Chief

1003
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 3: season is not going to go according to plan, then

1004
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 3: you probably want the longest odds in that division with

1005
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 3: the Broncos because the Raiders still have a lot of

1006
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,720
Speaker 3: question marks with Minshew, I love Patrick Grahm's of defensive coordinator.

1007
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 3: I think he's super underrated. That's why their defense was

1008
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 3: so good last year, but they didn't have They spent

1009
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 3: the second fewest dollars on their defense, and you know

1010
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 3: they finished in the top ten justin for schedule. He

1011
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 3: does so many good things, especially on that defensive line.

1012
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 3: He's a guy was with Belichick's charting plays for years.

1013
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 3: You know, learned his system. He was under Spagnola, he

1014
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 3: was under Flores, learned some quarters under Petton. You know,

1015
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 3: he's he has been under some smart defensive minds and

1016
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 3: I think he's finally putting it all together.

1017
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 1: But and he's he's an IVY League guy, Isn't he

1018
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 1: like Harvard or Yale or one of those schools.

1019
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 3: Smart dude? And yeah, so he raises the ad Wilkins.

1020
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 3: So I think their defense is a bit underrated, but

1021
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 3: their ceiling isn't very high. Broncos have more variance with

1022
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 3: Nicks and because you know what you have with Minshew right,

1023
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 3: like his peak is like he will be an average

1024
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 3: at best quarterback, but Nicks he brings some upside and

1025
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 3: some variants because we don't know what he'll be. So

1026
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 3: if he wanted the bet on the Broncos, if you

1027
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 3: want about the win total over Tewan Payton's ever lost

1028
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 3: year in the seven games, just needs to get to six.

1029
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 3: But I think betting on the upside of Denver maybe

1030
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 3: to make the playoffs. I don't hate that bet at all.

1031
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 1: Who are you higher on than most people?

1032
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 3: Uh, the Panthers. That's sad to say out loud, but

1033
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 3: it was my favorite. We did our preseason podcast like

1034
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 3: after the draft on the Action Nemberk podcast, and that

1035
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 3: was my favorite. Win total. Then it was four and

1036
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 3: a half. Then it's up to five and a half.

1037
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 3: I still like it at five and a half. I

1038
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 3: think they upgrade him all on the offensive line, specifically

1039
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,720
Speaker 3: at guard. Bryce Young I don't think is the answer quarterback.

1040
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 3: I just think he's too small. But he will be

1041
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 3: better than last year and I think Canalis will put

1042
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 3: him in better positions. The offense will be much better

1043
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 3: similar to the Saints. Just as far as play calling,

1044
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 3: and scheme, and you know you have you upgraded at receiver,

1045
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,280
Speaker 3: I think as well, especially if Lagett can give them something.

1046
00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: But I like it.

1047
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 3: I like the scheme be much more motion again san

1048
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:06,439
Speaker 3: fran La Tree here with the offense, and you're gonna

1049
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 3: get They're gonna get young on the move more often too,

1050
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 3: with some boots, and that's what you gotta do. You

1051
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 3: gotta get him outside the pocket because he's not gonna

1052
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 3: be able to sit in the pocket and carve up

1053
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 3: NFL defenses. So I think the offense improves. I mean,

1054
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 3: there's not much more. They didn't lead in the fourth quarter.

1055
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 3: One time they had two wins. They want at the

1056
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 3: buzzer and both both times never had a lead in

1057
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter. But they were unlucky, like across the board, injuries, fumble,

1058
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 3: special teams, you name it. They were unlucky. But I

1059
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 3: think they improved on the offense. The defense, it's not

1060
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 3: the most talented unit, but I think Everro, who comes

1061
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 3: from the Fangio Tree more cover three base, he's kind

1062
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 3: of like a hybrid of the San fran and Fangio.

1063
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 3: I love him as a defensive coordinator. So I like

1064
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,439
Speaker 3: the coaching. I think the Bucks take a step back

1065
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 3: as well. So yeah, I like the Panthers to go

1066
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 3: over their win total. It's as they're probably the team

1067
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 3: that first came to mind when you said who am

1068
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 3: I higher on than anyone? Who was the Anthers? Sadly

1069
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 3: the Carolina Panthers. I'll probably eat my words, but I

1070
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 3: like them Week one two plus four against the Saints.

1071
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: Okay, the NFC and AFC East, the Bills and Jets

1072
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 1: have the same odds to win the division, and I'm sorry,

1073
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: like I just I can't pick the Jets. Like, to me,

1074
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: that's kind of crazy. That feels like the Bills, And

1075
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: I understand where you're coming from. I actually think the

1076
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: Bills are gonna be just fine. They're gonna benefit their

1077
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: division sucks, and the Patriots are gonna be terrible. Right.

1078
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: I think the Dolphins got some pretty big question marks.

1079
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 1: Not now, Tyreek's dealing with some stuff with his thumb.

1080
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't catch the ball if your thumb's

1081
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: fucked up. That's not something that just goes away. And

1082
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: even Mike McDonald or Mike McDaniel said like, yeah, it's

1083
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: kind of one of those where you can't really do

1084
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: anything you reinjury it. So that's that's something to monitor.

1085
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 3: Uh.

1086
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 1: And the Jets, to me, I mean, are just so

1087
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: dependent on these older guys that their injury history, the

1088
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: litany of I mean, you just go through all of them.

1089
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 1: You just type in their name to rotal world of

1090
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: years and the quarterback's forty years old. And listen, he's

1091
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,760
Speaker 1: not playing in the last preseason game, or he didn't

1092
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: if you listened to this last weekend. But whenever I've

1093
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: seen a clip of them on NFL network, I don't

1094
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: know if you've noticed this. And again it's hard to tell,

1095
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 1: but I don't think Rogers one, he didn't move as

1096
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: well a couple of years ago before the trade. Now

1097
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: coming off the achilles, I think his days of being

1098
00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 1: like the scramble king and throwing the dots, I don't

1099
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,399
Speaker 1: if he was like a seven or eight out of ten,

1100
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,760
Speaker 1: what if that's like a five now like that changes?

1101
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: Is he just gonna start playing like Peyton Manning? You know,

1102
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: not that he can't throw within the pocket, but part

1103
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: of his game has been this hybrid player. And if

1104
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: that's gone to me, that immediately lowers their ceiling of

1105
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 1: I think what they were hoping to get before he

1106
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: hurt his achilles. So, and then obviously the NFC East

1107
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: is everyone thinks Dallas is just gonna suck, and they

1108
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 1: draft and develop offensive lineman as good as anyone. So

1109
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: if you have a good offensive line, even if you've

1110
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: got some random dudes on offense, ceed thing will eventually

1111
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: get done. Ferguson's a good player, like you could find

1112
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: random running backs. I think Dallas is still gonna be

1113
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: really competitive. Now, obviously, the Eagles roster like it's pretty legit.

1114
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: I mean the top to bottom. They got a lot

1115
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: of good players, but they have like three head coaches.

1116
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: Fagio doesn't have to listen to anybody. He's running the defense.

1117
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: The article basically said is like Kellen, you do the offense,

1118
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: and Knicks kind of stay away from Jalen, and then

1119
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: Nick just kind of runs the team meetings. So obviously,

1120
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 1: to me, they're the most talented team in the division.

1121
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: But that's got potential to get weird. You're a Philly guy,

1122
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 1: you know that market. I don't think the Giants are

1123
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: any good, and Washington's a wild card, but I wonder

1124
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: if that divisions a little closer like it has been

1125
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,240
Speaker 1: the last couple of years than everyone just assumes Dallas

1126
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: is gonna suck. What say you on that? Yeah?

1127
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 3: AFC East first, I yeah, Patriots are gonna be really bad.

1128
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 3: I mean like their their defense could have been good,

1129
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 3: but you're losing Bellichick. That's you can't understate that just

1130
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 3: from a scheme in preparation perspective, that's a big loss.

1131
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 3: I know that he he lost kind of his fastball

1132
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 3: as far as you know drafting, building a roster, even

1133
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 3: like the special teams fell off, but he could still

1134
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 3: gain plan defense. But then you lost Judon. You know,

1135
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 3: Barmore is dealing with blood clotts, your best defensive lineman.

1136
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 3: So and the offense is gonna be I kind of

1137
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 3: like some of the things I've seen from Drake May.

1138
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 3: But who's who's blocking point, who's he throwing to? It's

1139
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 3: not the best situation for a rookie quarterback after he

1140
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 3: takes over from Versett. They're gonna be bad. They the Dolphins,

1141
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 3: I mean, they really need to get like Chubb and

1142
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 3: Phillips and hope that they're healthy. They're they really need

1143
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 3: them from a pass rushing perspective. But yeah, I mean

1144
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 3: the Jets are very difficult for me to project, like

1145
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,280
Speaker 3: I just throw my handsome sad. I don't know, because

1146
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 3: it's there's one. Like you said, they need all these

1147
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 3: they revamp their offensive line, but these guys have dealt

1148
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 3: with a ton of injuries. You you know, brought in

1149
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 3: Mike Williams, gonna talking about a guy who's double a

1150
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 3: lot of injuries, and then Aaron Rodgers, and I don't like,

1151
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 3: can they all stay healthy? Is number one? So the

1152
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 3: one thing that's working in their favor and works against

1153
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 3: the forty nine ers is you're gonna get the best

1154
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 3: version of the Jets in Week one, right when they're

1155
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 3: fully healthy, and they're getting the worst version of the

1156
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 3: forty nine ers, Like you're gonna play? Is Trent William's

1157
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 3: gonna play? Are they gonna be ready to go? McCaffrey, Yeah,

1158
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 3: So like that you're gonna get the best that that

1159
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 3: helps him on the schedule. But I just don't know,

1160
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 3: I just don't know. I mean, the defense is gonna

1161
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:19,919
Speaker 3: be really good. You got like seven six or seven

1162
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 3: first former first rounders in the front seven, and then

1163
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 3: you have, you know, three really good corners led by

1164
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 3: Sauce Gardner. But you also Carter and Reed, they're really underrated.

1165
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 3: You can play that aggressive style that you do up

1166
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 3: front with your defensive line just trying to get after

1167
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 3: quarterbacks because you know that your defense can hold up

1168
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 3: on the back end. We'll see what happens with the

1169
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 3: son Reddick replacing Huff. A lot of turmoil there because

1170
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 3: I think they could really use them. But the defense

1171
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 3: will be really good. I don't know if it'll be

1172
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 3: as good. And they got to stay as they were

1173
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,320
Speaker 3: really healthy last year. But I just don't know with

1174
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 3: Rogers because Rogers, what I can say is that it

1175
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,799
Speaker 3: would be this year or next. Like Rodgers is gonna

1176
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,959
Speaker 3: fall off a cliff and he's dealing with that injury

1177
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 3: at his age, is he gonna does he have like

1178
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 3: one more good year in them? I don't know. Like

1179
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 3: it's very hard to predict when these quarterbacks who've been

1180
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 3: in the league forever, when they're just gonna suddenly fall

1181
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 3: off a cliff. It happens rapidly. So I can't like

1182
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:12,680
Speaker 3: a couple of years.

1183
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: It happened to Roethlisberger, it happened to Breeze, it happened

1184
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: to Manning.

1185
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 3: It was just gone yep, And so I that's so

1186
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 3: there's definitely some downside risk with the Jets that. I mean,

1187
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 3: the good thing is it can't get worse last year

1188
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 3: quarterback just with Rogers running the show. But yeah, so

1189
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 3: there's there's The Jets are a very hard team for

1190
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 3: me to project because of the injuries they're they're just

1191
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 3: they need those guys to stay healthy. And I just

1192
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 3: don't know what Rogers is gonna be and yeah that

1193
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 3: that kind of improvisation is that still gonna be there

1194
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 3: recovering from an injury. So uh, yeah, They're difficult for

1195
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 3: me to project. And I think in the NFCS a

1196
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 3: division that hasn't had a repeat winner in twenty years,

1197
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 3: which is insane. U Cowboys miraculously win it last year.

1198
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 3: I yeah, I think that the love has gone to

1199
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 3: a little too far for the Eagles. They've taken a

1200
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 3: lot of money on their win total over the division

1201
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 3: odds and the Cowboys there's I still think they're a

1202
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 3: really good team. This the A team has won twelve

1203
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 3: games three straight years, They've had a top seven offense

1204
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 3: and defense, a top ten special teams all three years.

1205
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 3: They just in the playoffs, they just haven't got it done.

1206
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 3: The offensive line, running back.

1207
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: It's more of a.

1208
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 3: Question than it has been in years past. But you're

1209
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 3: still gonna have a good offense. You're still gonna have

1210
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 3: a good defense. Zimmer is a good coordinator. The you

1211
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 3: know obviously ceedee lamb pass. I mean, if he gets hurt,

1212
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 3: it's all bets are off. They need him. But he

1213
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 3: is an awesome weapon. So I think that the love

1214
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 3: has gone a little too far for the Eagles. If

1215
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 3: I were to bets the in the win division probably

1216
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 3: be the Cowboys right now. I just can't get there

1217
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 3: with the Giants. They're like their cornerback. Their defense is

1218
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 3: gonna Look at the Titans said last year you bring

1219
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 3: in the Shane Bowen who ran like an aggressive zone

1220
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 3: heavy defense, and yeah, you have your pass rush is

1221
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 3: really good. Your runt seven is a lot of talent.

1222
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 3: So did the Titans last year? Yeah? Nothing in the secondary.

1223
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,040
Speaker 3: The Titans at a bottom three pass ye that's gonna

1224
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 3: happen again. Can't guarden anyone, they don't. Their offensive line

1225
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 3: still a mess, and Daniel Jones he's just not the answer.

1226
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 3: So I can't get to the Giants winning that division.

1227
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 3: And my take on Washington, I could be wrong, but

1228
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 3: I still questions about their secondary too, and their offensive

1229
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 3: line is I think Daniels is he gets comparison to

1230
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 3: a lot of quarterbacks. I think he's more like Fields

1231
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 3: than Lamar, just from a passing perspective. If you look

1232
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 3: at some of his pressure to sack numbers, they're very alarming.

1233
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 3: Where he is like among college quarterbacks. You know, he's

1234
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 3: in like that Sam Howe territory. So I don't see

1235
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 3: the compas. I don't think he has the upside of Lamar.

1236
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 3: I think he's closer to like what Justin Fields is,

1237
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 3: So yeah, I would. I think that the Eagles have

1238
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 3: quiet like I want to see other secredary comes together.

1239
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 3: They did address it, but it's a lot of young

1240
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 3: pieces who's gonna play where. It's a complex defense that

1241
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 3: Fangio runs a lot of times. It takes time for

1242
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 3: that to work. I love the love the higher there,

1243
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 3: and I love the higher on the offensive side and

1244
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 3: Kell Moore. It's gonna be a much more modern offense,

1245
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 3: more motion, more play action, harder for defense to the pairport,

1246
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 3: but much more complex. Is gonna take some time there,

1247
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 3: so and you know you lost Kelsey in the middle,

1248
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 3: so you know they might take some time for this

1249
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 3: this Philly offense and defenses to come together. So yeah,

1250
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,439
Speaker 3: I would agree with you. I think that the hate

1251
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 3: for Dallas, I think has gone a little too far.

1252
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:25,439
Speaker 3: Still a really good team.

1253
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 1: Okay, let's end on the player that everyone likes talking about,

1254
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: because we have been for years. Caleb Williams heavy favorite

1255
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: to win the offensive Rookie of the Year. It's like

1256
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 1: less I looked yesterday's like plus one seventy five if

1257
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: he has a great year or you know, relative to

1258
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 1: rookie quarterbacks, how are they not pretty good? Because I'm

1259
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 1: not trying to overreact to hard knocks, but clearly their defense,

1260
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 1: I mean Jalen Johnson's a stud that their defensive line

1261
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 1: is going to be good, they have a defensive head coach,

1262
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: and offensively it's you can't really argue. I mean, Keenan

1263
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: Allen if he's on the fields a stud, Rome's your

1264
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 1: third wide receiver, and shit, Dj Moore would catch eighty

1265
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 1: five balls if me or your quarterback, and so you

1266
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 1: add Swift. Obviously their offensive line is a little bit

1267
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:09,439
Speaker 1: of a question mark, but his to me, the comp

1268
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: for Caleb is much more like prime Russ. He can scramble,

1269
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 1: make plays, throw on the move to the left, to

1270
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 1: the right. He's kind of a playmaker, even if he's

1271
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 1: not as of right now. We'll see if he can

1272
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 1: get there a great quote unquote pocket quarterback. But I

1273
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 1: think he's good enough to me. The Bears are a

1274
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:27,479
Speaker 1: pretty big wild card. You know, you never know because

1275
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Speaker 1: once you start playing real games, they scheme against you,

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Speaker 1: maybe they rush you a little differently. But I think

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Speaker 1: if he is just solid, the Bears are gonna be

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Speaker 1: pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And the thing is with the Bear if you

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Speaker 3: look at this offense, the offensive line definitely still has questions,

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Speaker 3: especially in the interior. But I love the hire of

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Speaker 3: Shane Waldron, who runs kind of like this the Aarhard

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Speaker 3: Perkins offense. He has some influence. He was Barrember, he

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Speaker 3: started with the Patriots originally, and then you know, some

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Speaker 3: influence with the McVeigh type of all defense. And so

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Speaker 3: it's a really good, like I think, offense to get

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Speaker 3: your start with. He's going to make things easy for

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Speaker 3: Kayla Williams, who then also is going to add like

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Speaker 3: his flare and his innovation when he's creating plays and

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Speaker 3: creating with his lights and making spectacular throws. It's a

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Speaker 3: conversation every analls is going to say. It's like, can

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Speaker 3: he just find that right mix right of you know,

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Speaker 3: going off script, staying on script, but and you know,

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Speaker 3: making sure he doesn't get just too loose with the ball,

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01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 3: trying to create two oftense. You don't want to take

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Speaker 3: that away from him. That's his best outset. But the

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Speaker 3: he's he's in a great position. Like he was drafted

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Speaker 3: number one overall because the Panthers were so bad. Most

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks drafted number one overall. Right, think about where Drake

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Speaker 3: may went. That's like the situation that you're walking into.

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff, I mean usually go to such shitty situations.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they were able to get the dunes, they

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01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 3: were able to add Alan. You already had more. You

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Speaker 3: have a really good tight end. You know, the offensive

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Speaker 3: line is is quite but it's better than it's been

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Speaker 3: in years past, and you have a really good offensive coordinator. So, yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's in such a good position here. The division is

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01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 3: is tough. What we already talked about, which is improving.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, the Bears, I mean over under I think

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Speaker 3: eight and a half, which is sky high for a rookie. Quarterback,

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Speaker 3: which just shows you the situation that he's in. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: they are the wild card in the NFC. Their defense

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Speaker 3: did get a bit lucky in the second half the

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Speaker 3: year where you played some backup quarterbacks, you know, got

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Speaker 3: some turnover luck. It wasn't as good. It was really

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Speaker 3: bad early in the year. But you also have to

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Speaker 3: remember they had a defensive coordinator who left abruptly. They

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Speaker 3: were like in it was all that turmoil with him,

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Speaker 3: and then Everflu's kind of took over the defense. He's

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Speaker 3: still like your Cover two influenced guy. Of the of

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Speaker 3: the coordinators where I know he's a head coach, but

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Speaker 3: and he brings in a defense coordinator from the Bills,

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Speaker 3: I'm curious to see. He had some wrinkles from like

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Speaker 3: the McDermot Jim Johnson Tree. But the Bears, their defense

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Speaker 3: still gonna be good. You got a lockdown corner, you

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Speaker 3: have some town on the back end. You went out

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Speaker 3: and paid for a lot of your linebackers are good

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Speaker 3: out sweat rest of the defensive line. Yeah, sort of questionable,

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Speaker 3: but the defense is not going to hold them back.

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Speaker 3: So if Kleb Williams can just come in and the schedule,

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Speaker 3: the other thing is that I'm not talking about with

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Speaker 3: the Bears, like everything good situation for Caleb Williams. Well,

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Speaker 3: how about the schedule. I mean, this is the first

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Speaker 3: eleven twelve weeks are as easy as it gets. And

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Speaker 3: if you look at the past defenses that they're facing,

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Speaker 3: like it is as easy as you could possibly get

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Speaker 3: for a rookie quarterback. Titans, Texans, Colts, Bad Pasty, you know, Rams, Carolina, Jags, Washington, Arizona,

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Speaker 3: New England, Green Bay, Minnesota, Detroit like these teams a lot.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's the NFL. You're gonna play some good teams,

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Speaker 3: but these aren't your strongest pass defenses in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: So he has a you know, a nice opportunity to

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Speaker 3: kind of ramp up and get used to this offense.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, the Bears are definitely a wild card. Then

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Speaker 3: they went they won seven games last year, two and

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Speaker 3: six and one possession games too, So yeah, ultimate wildcard

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Speaker 3: in the NFC, and they could be a player if

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Speaker 3: Williams doesn't have. It's hard rookie quarterbacks. It's hard to

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Speaker 3: you never know, yeah it is, it is, so it's

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Speaker 3: hard to really, like I always have to.

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Speaker 1: No one saw CJ s Forroud.

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Speaker 3: Coming yeah, or Bryce Young being that dead right. So

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Speaker 3: a lot of times it's like these the milliseconds of

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Speaker 3: processing NFL defenses and can you make those adjustments? Can

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Speaker 3: you read the defenses which are constantly changing now on

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Speaker 3: the back end their coverages that you just don't know.

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Speaker 3: And going back to the bow Knicks thing, I like,

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't overreact to what you see in the preseason,

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Speaker 3: not just for Knicks, for anybody. It's just not the same.

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Speaker 3: You're you're not playing the starters, not playing the so

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Speaker 3: a lot of this we don't know with rookie quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: So but that adds some variant to the Bears. And yeah,

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Speaker 3: they could be really good if Williams hits.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Stecky, you're the man. I look forward to week

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Speaker 1: one and it's always good curveball. You get some things,

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Speaker 1: especially you you come out of left field on a

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Speaker 1: couple that everyone you know. So I'm fired up for that.

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Speaker 1: I haven't dove into the slate at least relative to

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Speaker 1: the lines yet, but we will do that and I'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you soon. Man.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely good to be back. I'm not excited for the season.

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Speaker 3: Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Let's roll the volume