1 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: It is. 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: It is La La Kent, fresh off of the week 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: long I guess right. Banner Pump Rules airs on Wednesdays. 4 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: Yes, So this is where it. 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 2: Jumps a little tricky because I want to give you 6 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 2: guys the recap in real time, but I can't fill 7 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 2: you in on episodes that are airing tonight when they 8 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: haven't aired head because that means that I get an 9 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: email from Bravo. So what we're gonna start doing is 10 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 2: I'm gonna recap last week's episode to just kind of 11 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 2: get you in the mood for tonight. It's kind of 12 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 2: like a little for play, which is always the most fun. 13 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 3: Always the most fun. 14 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 4: And also this is exciting because if you have questions 15 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 4: about the episode, now, you basically have a week or 16 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 4: like let's say, five to six days to DM the 17 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 4: podcast and just sort of, like I said, we get 18 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 4: a lot of dms, So so the first thing you 19 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 4: put in the DM is just like VPR question, and 20 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 4: then I'll be able to sort through and see which 21 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:09,919 Speaker 4: ones have to do with the episode. 22 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: Did you watch? 23 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 4: Just obviously Okay, you guys, I have to say, can 24 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 4: I give my honest opinion? 25 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: Always? 26 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 4: Okay, the first few minutes. I was like, huh, okay, 27 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 4: we're setting it up. This is cool, Like I'm not 28 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 4: overly stimulated. But again it's just like we're setting it up. 29 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 3: Literally. I think it was like by minute seven. 30 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: Hooked, hooked, hooked. 31 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 4: I know, loved it, loved the looks. You've never looked 32 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 4: better in my opinion, Thank you. Stunning, stunning, stunning. Everyone 33 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 4: looked so chic and just like it seems like everyone's 34 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 4: such an individual and they like even though some people 35 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 4: are struggling with their identity, like overall, it seems like 36 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 4: everyone is like strong and knows themselves and like this 37 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 4: is what I'm doing. 38 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 2: And I love that you get that from the first episode, 39 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: because as the season goes on, you see like, oh shit, 40 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 2: some of these folks haven't found themselves, Like they've really 41 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 2: lost their fucking minds. Someone call they mama. 42 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: Well. 43 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 4: I saw the teaser for I think next episode or 44 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 4: at least the season, and I got a hint of like, 45 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 4: oh okay, but it feels so exciting. I'm I want 46 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 4: to get all of your thoughts on it, but I 47 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,639 Speaker 4: do want to ask because again, we've gotten so many 48 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 4: dms and just to get ahead of these questions, where 49 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 4: is the the like lavender color pajama set. 50 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: From It's by Shady Lady. Okay, the one with the dogs, 51 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 2: you guys, Yeah, with the blinged out Doberman's. 52 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: Yes. 53 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 2: I found it at Nordstrum and I was obsessed with 54 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 2: it and now I just go on and buy Like, 55 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 2: I have a ton of their pajamas that are basically 56 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 2: the same style, but like one has one hundred dollars 57 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: bills all over it and I wear them out. Yeah, 58 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 2: Like they're too cute to just be sleeping in. 59 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 1: No, they're so cute, right. 60 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 4: I want to get your thoughts because I also watch 61 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 4: watch What Happens Live and I. 62 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: Got a fucking snooze. God. 63 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 2: Well, you know Katie and I were supposed to do 64 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 2: that first. I know we weren't getting along, so we 65 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 2: both were like. 66 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 3: No, So let me hear your thoughts again. 67 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 4: I know it's been a week, and I did hear 68 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 4: that it was one of like the most viewed television shows. 69 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 2: Out of one hundred and fifty cable shows. We were 70 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: number eight and the only thing above us was news 71 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: and sports. That's so kind, mostly basketball. 72 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 3: Congrats to all of you. 73 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 2: I think we killed it. Now watching it again, I 74 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: got so before the episode aired. I watched last year's 75 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 2: reunion and I got so fucking triggered by it, just 76 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: seeing that I'm in such a different place and but 77 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: also like it takes you back to the very beginning 78 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: of everything that had happened, and I started like going 79 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: into a panic, and I had to remind myself, You're 80 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 2: not there anymore, babe, You're not there. Let this be 81 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 2: a reminder that you you were swimming. 82 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: You swim, bitch, We swim in you know. 83 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 2: Yes, Like to see how far I've come in in 84 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 2: a year is like very I hope that it's inspiring 85 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 2: for other people to know that, like we all possess 86 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 2: that strength. Okay, let's move on to the episode. I 87 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,679 Speaker 2: was hooked the second that Raquel and Peter started talking 88 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: because that relationship or whatever the fuck it is, reminds me. 89 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: I'm not into drugs. 90 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 2: I've never done drugs, but it reminds me of like 91 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: maybe taking a hit of something that like slows you down. 92 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 3: Whooah, not true, Wait, elaborate on this. 93 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 2: I just feel like when I watched them, I took 94 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 2: a hit of something. 95 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, like really slows me down. 96 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 2: Mentally, that's a great comparison, unshid like it was so cringey, 97 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 2: yeah and amazing. This is so fun because I feel 98 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 2: like I'm a viewer but also a part of it. 99 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: But I'm always gonna have my own back. So if 100 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 2: you're thinking that I'm gonna let actually no, I am gonna. 101 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 2: When I need to throw shade at myself, I definitely will. 102 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 2: Because there were cringe moments anyway, Raquel and Peter awkward, awesome, 103 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 2: fucking loved it. Also a strange moment Raquel and Ali 104 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: talking that. 105 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,119 Speaker 1: Was also very weird. 106 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 2: I felt like Ali was kind of trying to like 107 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 2: play herself down, like yeah, yeah. It was like, can 108 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 2: we elevate this conversation like just a little bit, Raquel, 109 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 2: good for you? 110 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: Yes, girl. 111 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 2: I was like, remind me to never have you as 112 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 2: my high bitch, like crawl in a hole? 113 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: Was that? 114 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,159 Speaker 4: Actually, this brings me to a question. Was that the 115 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 4: first time you had ever met Ali? 116 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: I had met her before, but it was at a 117 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 2: party and it was very like loud and chaotic, so 118 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: I briefly said hi to her. This was like the 119 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 2: first time that I met her and sat down and 120 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 2: talked to her. And what drives me so crazy, which 121 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: I also love about vander pump Roles. I had said 122 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 2: to someone before I met Ali ever, that James loves 123 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 2: a thin lipped bitch. All right, Raquel was, I was 124 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 2: Ali is and then I see her by the way. 125 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 2: The person I said this to was like, that's so funny. 126 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 2: I'm gonna put that in her interview. Bye. 127 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 4: Okay, So you said this before you ever met Ali. 128 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: Right, but they played it. I was like, I was 129 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: some caddy bitch. 130 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: So at the premiere party, I was like, er uh, Ali, 131 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 2: I really hope I didn't offend you like she was like, 132 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 2: I thought it was really really fucking funny. I go, okay, 133 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 2: I just want you to know, like if you go 134 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 2: into interviews and you got to throw shade at me, 135 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 2: like I got it, it's easy to do do your thing. 136 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 2: Like I felt bad because I'm sitting there saying I 137 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 2: was actually shocked. I'm like, wow, this bitch actually has 138 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,679 Speaker 2: like some full fucking list. 139 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 3: I thought it was funny. 140 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 2: I usually never pull that card. Yeah, oh okay, I'm like, no, 141 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 2: this is what happened. 142 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 3: But you had never met Okay, I got it, and 143 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 3: I never met her. 144 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: And I was very impressed by her big lips, like, 145 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 2: holy shit, Lucky. Where I was cringing for myself is 146 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 2: and I know this is what I was talking about 147 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 2: before the season aired, is I think a lot of 148 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: my past behavior and things that I have said are 149 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 2: going to clash with who I am now. That scene 150 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 2: of me with Stoscy talking about role playing was one 151 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: of the most cringey moments I've ever seen of myself. 152 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 2: I couldn't even watch it. I fast forwarded through that 153 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 2: part because Number One, what an ignorant thing to say 154 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 2: when women out here who have been a part of 155 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: things like that and it has scarred them for life. 156 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 2: So for me to make such a stupid comment like 157 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 2: that or talk about things like that, in my mind 158 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 2: back then, it's like if your husband's a guynecologist and 159 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: you're like, ooh, inspect my vagina, you. 160 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: Know, like role playing. 161 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 2: I just I never in a million years thought that 162 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 2: I would come in contact with someone like my ex. 163 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 2: I thought I watched those people on twenty twenty and 164 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 2: it was like, those are just people you see on TV. 165 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 2: They're not people that you actually ever meet, Right, So 166 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 2: That's where I'm gonna struggle this season is watching flashbacks 167 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 2: because I know that editors will have a heyday, but 168 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: I just I go back into like, Wow, you stupid, 169 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 2: stupid girl. 170 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 3: I hear you. 171 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 4: I wish you didn't because, like we've talked about a 172 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 4: million times before on this podcast, everybody grows, everybody changes. 173 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 4: Like you said, you don't you barely even know the 174 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 4: mindset of that person in that moment in that scene, 175 00:08:59,000 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 4: you're like, who is that? 176 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 3: What is she even saying? What's going on? 177 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 4: So I hope that you don't that it doesn't like 178 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 4: get you down when you see stuff like that, But 179 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 4: I totally understand what you're saying, and that is going 180 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 4: to be hard for you to see. 181 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 2: I will be fast forwarding through those like I don't 182 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 2: need anyone to remind me. I know the things I've 183 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 2: said and done in my past that I'm not proud of, 184 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 2: and I always say like, I don't live in regret 185 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: because that's how I get to where I am now. Yes, 186 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 2: that's how I feel, But I don't need to relive 187 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: the moments right at all. 188 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: You don't need to take me back. I don't want 189 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: to watch. 190 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 4: So I did see some things that Tom stand the 191 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 4: ball and Tom Schwartz said that I was actually really 192 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 4: taken aback by and surprised by and like disgusted by. 193 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna I think you're not the only one. 194 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 2: I think a lot of people felt that same way 195 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 2: Tom Schwartz. I've just gone to the point with him 196 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 2: where it's like I know that, Like you're comfortable not 197 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 2: standing for shit. That's just who you are, you know, Yes, 198 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 2: even I'll watch what happens like He's like, no regrets. 199 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 2: I regret hurting Katie's feelings, but I don't regret the act, 200 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 2: and it's like, make up your goddamn mind. 201 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 4: That's what pushed it over for me, because there was 202 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 4: something where I watched the episode and I had to 203 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 4: say like, Okay, this was at a certain time when 204 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 4: maybe everyone didn't know everything, or some things hadn't come 205 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 4: out yet, whatever, but it was after and watch what 206 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 4: Happens live certain things that Schwartz said where I was like, oh. 207 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 1: Well that's live, that's in real time. 208 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 3: That's why I was like ooh, I ooh. 209 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 2: We're like a lot of allegations and shit beyond where 210 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 2: we were back then. And keep in mind, like I 211 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 2: said to him in scene, I would never have anyone 212 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 2: pick a side over some cheating, all right, Like, I'm 213 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 2: a grown ass woman. I can get over that. What 214 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: I have been dealing with. We can all read between 215 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: the lines on why I am where I am now. Okay, 216 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: So I've made it very clear this is where I stand. 217 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 2: And for you to say that I'm bringing my friends 218 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 2: together on a rooftop, I think of them all as family. 219 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 2: That was a safe place me saying I don't want 220 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 2: to have to explain this a million different times because 221 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 2: I'm broken. 222 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: You know, Jess, you were there. 223 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 2: I was broken and needing to crawl into the fetal 224 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 2: position and couldn't knew that I was going into the. 225 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: Fight of my life for my child's life. 226 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 2: So when I called you on to the rooftop, that 227 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 2: was anything but an ego. 228 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: That was me. 229 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 2: I'm my most humbled state of saying you guys have 230 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 2: been there for me through a lot of shit and 231 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 2: this is where I'm at and I need you. It 232 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 2: was no more complex than that and him saying I'm 233 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: going through a divorce, like my heart breaks for my friends, right, 234 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 2: I don't ever want to see that happen. But for 235 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:57,599 Speaker 2: you to say I'm dealing with my own shit, I 236 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 2: can't care about yours. Well, guess what, bitch with my 237 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 2: own shit, so I don't give a fuck about yours. 238 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't see that from you either. I'm 239 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 3: sitting here and you. 240 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 1: Know it gets me high by that. 241 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 2: If you're gonna say that you're going through your own 242 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 2: shit so you can't care about mine, well, then guess what. 243 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: I can't give a fuck about yours. 244 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 2: Because if we really want to play dirty welcome to America, 245 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 2: a lot of people get divorced if we want to 246 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 2: play dirty, Welcome to my life. My dad died, all right, 247 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 2: I still I want to be there for you, but 248 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: if you're gonna throw jabs, So that's where I was 249 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 2: at in the moment. Granted, Schwortzy and I have come 250 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 2: a very long way. So I want to remind everyone 251 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 2: that when I'm talking about this stuff, I want I'm 252 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 2: directing it strictly to how I felt about the episode 253 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 2: in that time of filming. 254 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 4: Yes, and I hope we see throughout the season maybe 255 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 4: some evolving of your relationship, because yeah, we'll see them. 256 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 2: You know me, Jess, I really like not tell me. 257 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 2: I'm so sorry, and I'm like okay, clean slate love you, Yes, yes, 258 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 2: but yeah, I'm gonna have a hard time shaking off 259 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 2: Tom Sandoval's comments. 260 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we'll see where that leads you. 261 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 4: Because throughout the were you surprised or is this something 262 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 4: we may get throughout the season. Were you surprised to 263 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 4: see those comments from him from Sandoval? 264 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? Well for you to say, basically make a comment 265 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 2: about me bringing a child into this world the biggest 266 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 2: blessing of life, it for me is just like you're 267 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 2: just so far up your own ass, Like go get 268 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 2: drunk again, go like get stoned and do your fucking 269 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 2: lights and like. 270 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: Take your drugs. 271 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 2: I don't give up like you live in fairytale fucking land. 272 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 2: This is real life. So for you to try and 273 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 2: talk about things that people go through, you don't get 274 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 2: that right. You talk about my kid or anyone else's kid, 275 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna fucking cut you. I draw the line, don't 276 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 2: bring my kid into this. 277 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. You can talk about how stupid. 278 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 2: I am all day long, but when you say when 279 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 2: you tie that into and bring a child into this world, 280 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 2: that is where I burn you. 281 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 282 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 4: And on that on a more positive note, Sena and 283 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 4: Katie like the vibe of having your back throughout the episode, 284 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 4: Like I saw the little look Shena gave when the tom. 285 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 4: I forget which one it was, but Tom, one of 286 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 4: the toms was like discussing what he Oh. Tom Schwartz 287 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 4: was saying, like how what he did and why you're upset? 288 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 4: And she knows like no, no, no, like kind of 289 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 4: So I love that. I love like the girls sticking 290 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 4: together if you me too. 291 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 2: But this is why I feel safe with women right now. 292 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: I just women are my safe zone. 293 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. 294 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: When I see anyone not think anything about what's been 295 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 2: written and expose that these journalists poured their heart and 296 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 2: souls into, you can just tell by the writing you 297 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 2: not think much of it. Now I'm questioning your character 298 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 2: and him saying I'll watch Rob. I was like, I 299 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: just hope it's not true, Bro, wake up and the ring. 300 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 2: Andy's like I think she would know about her own ring. 301 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, wake up, John, Hello. 302 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're way past that. 303 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: That was wild. 304 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 2: Cause someone check like is Schwartzy's pulse, Like is he 305 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 2: actually a living, breathing person with a brain, because right 306 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 2: now I don't know. 307 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 4: Well, all in all, I'm really fucking pumped for this season, Like, 308 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 4: I'm so excited, are you? 309 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 3: Are you nervous? 310 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 4: I know, with everything you just said overall, is it 311 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 4: like half and half? 312 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 3: How are you feeling? 313 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: It's not half and half? 314 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 2: I'm thrilled because again I'm a huge fan of reality TV, 315 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 2: right and I think that it's just gonna be fantastic. 316 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 2: I've heard everyone's thrilled with the first episode, so I 317 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 2: want to thank you all for watching. So on that note, 318 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 2: because we are in Valentine's Day mode, and I know 319 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 2: people get triggered by this time of year because they 320 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 2: think it's for just love. My little brother's birthday is 321 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 2: February fourteenth, so for me, Valentine's Day was always just 322 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 2: like celebrating like my other half, my brother. I never 323 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 2: thought of it any other way, and I thought it 324 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 2: would be really special because Ocean is getting older and 325 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 2: I really want to have her develop a healthy relationship 326 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 2: with animals. I need her to know that like love 327 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: can come in many different forms and love can be 328 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 2: expressed without any communication at all. So I took her 329 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 2: to the farm Sanctuary and basically this sanctuary has animals 330 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 2: from slaughterhouses like pettying. 331 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: What is it called the petty Zow. Yeah. 332 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 2: I came in contact with the sanctuary. They're one of 333 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 2: the first sanctuaries that took farm animals like that was 334 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 2: their thing. You usually see a lot of sanctuaries when 335 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 2: it comes to like big cats or yeah no, like 336 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 2: you know, marine life. Not many people talk about farm 337 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 2: animal sanctuaries. So I take Ocean and I was inspired. 338 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 2: I really just watching her with these animals was so beautiful, 339 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 2: and I thought, even though I want to talk to 340 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 2: you guys all day long about vander Pump rules, I 341 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 2: need everyone to remember that we need to share love 342 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 2: and positivity. So after I drag all these motherfuckers, I'm 343 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 2: gonna woosa into this next segment. I have Chloe from 344 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 2: the Farm Sanctuary to tell you guys a little bit 345 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 2: about what this sanctuary is about, how you donate, how 346 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 2: you share some love. And I'm super excited, so I 347 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 2: hope you enjoy it. Hello, my loves, my little animal lovers. 348 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 2: I just had the best experience ever. Thank you Chloe 349 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 2: for having us. We are at the Farm Sanctuary. I've 350 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 2: lean Ocean had the best time ever. By the way, 351 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: so glad, thank you so much for having us. Can 352 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 2: you give my friends, that's what I call my listeners friends. 353 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 2: Just a little bit of background on what the Farm 354 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 2: Sanctuary is and what you guys do. These animals have 355 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 2: incredible stories, yeah, they so. 356 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: We do share with us. Oh, I love First of all, 357 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 1: I'm so I'm so honored that you all were able 358 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: to come and join us today at such a good time, 359 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: showing you around and showing you the residents and yeah, 360 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: and sharing their stories with you, because they really are 361 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: just so moving. 362 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 2: So. 363 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 1: Farm Sanctuary is the nation's first farm animal rescue and 364 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: it's one of the leading farm animal protection organizations. We 365 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: have two sanctuaries, one in Watkins Glen, New York. It's 366 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: about three hundred acres and here we have a smaller 367 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: sanctuary just outside of Los Angeles that you got to 368 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: experience today, And combined, the sanctuaries have rescued thousands of 369 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: animals over the years. We've placed thousands more in loving 370 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: homes through a farm animal adoption network, and we also 371 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 1: do advocacy work and education work around the issues of 372 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: this unjust unsustainable food system that we have and try 373 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,719 Speaker 1: to fight the disastrous effects of animal agriculture on the animals. 374 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: Of course, but also on the environment a, social justice 375 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: and public health. 376 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 2: Well, I want to thank you so much for what 377 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 2: you all do and allowing us to come here. I 378 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 2: mean a lot of these animals, they're like little survivors, 379 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 2: they are. But you also taught me about one of 380 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 2: the pigs came from like a petting zoo. And I 381 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 2: feel like so often like we go and do these 382 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 2: things that we think are so cute and fun and 383 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 2: we really don't even realize like what's going on behind 384 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 2: the scenes. 385 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: Which pig was it? 386 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 2: Junip, Junip, can you share that story? Because I think 387 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 2: a lot of people think that, like, petting zoos are 388 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 2: so fun. Ma ain't that fun though? 389 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,679 Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, they end up not being that fun for 390 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: a lot of the animals are who are there. So yeah, 391 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: it wasn't until her rescue that a lot of us 392 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: at Farm Sanctuary even understood how petting zoos will commonly operate. 393 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: So what happened was two women once you go visit 394 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: the petting zoo and they and they discovered that the 395 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: runt of the litter was not getting enough nutrients. She 396 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 1: was being bullied out of nursing by her siblings. So 397 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: they asked if they could foster her and help her 398 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: grow to be healthier, and the petting zoo owner said yes, 399 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: so they took her in and then they you know, 400 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: cared for her and loved her for a few months, 401 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 1: and she was getting bigger and stronger. And then they 402 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 1: learned that this petting zoo, like a lot of petting zoos, 403 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: will actually lease a pregnant animal from a farm and 404 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: then they'll have those adorable babies to to, you know, 405 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: to use during the season. But then at the end 406 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: of the season, they're not going to have use for 407 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: those animals anymore, and by you know, the time that 408 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: next year rolls around, they're going to be too big 409 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: for people to want to take pictures with them. So 410 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: they will give the animals back to the farm and 411 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: they will then meet whatever fate they were meant to 412 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: meet in the first place. So, you know, in the 413 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: case for these pigs, they were just gonna be slaughtered, 414 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: and those women did not want that to happen to 415 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: this piglet that they had fallen in love with, so 416 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: they asked if they could rescue her instead and take 417 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,959 Speaker 1: her to a sanctuary. The owner said yes, and that's 418 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: how she wound up here. She's very sexy. She she's 419 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: a gorgeous, gorgeous girl. There was also one pig. 420 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 2: I wish that you guys were all here to like 421 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 2: witness what we saw today because these animals are so fabulous. 422 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 2: Ocean had so much joy in her eyes. And we 423 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 2: met a pig who whose name was Lisa, and I 424 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 2: made the joke of the resemblance was uncanny with my mom, 425 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 2: but only because of this Chloe, I was not putting gorgeous. 426 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: Lisa's gorgeous is gorgeous. 427 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 2: She was sleeping like a rock and snoring, and Ocean 428 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 2: was obsessed with her. I just think it's incredible that 429 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 2: this is the first like farm sanctuary, because most most 430 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 2: sanctuaries are what. 431 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, so i' you know. The sanctuary is that existed 432 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 1: before we existed. They mainly rescued, you know, different species 433 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: of animals, ones that you wouldn't commonly find in our 434 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,959 Speaker 1: food system, like a lot of exotic animals, exotic animals 435 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: or dogs and cats. And you know, right. 436 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 2: Because we have had a couple people on the podcast 437 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 2: that they rescue big cats or like their mission is 438 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 2: to empty the tanks. This really was And when Jessica 439 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 2: brought you guys. To me, I was like, oh my gosh. 440 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 2: Number one, we have to go there. Number two, this 441 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 2: is amazing. And I have to say, you guys have 442 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: some celebrity cows. 443 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: We do this farm sanctuary. 444 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 2: Anyone who watches the news or just is on social media, 445 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 2: like you said, like a year ago, right, So. 446 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was about a year and a half 447 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: ago this happened. Yeah, the cows stars. I love to 448 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 1: tell you all this. Yes, yes, a lot of people did, 449 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: and people still to this day common asked to see 450 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 1: those cows. So I'd love to share this story. So 451 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: it was about a year and a half ago. Is 452 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: June twenty twenty one. There is a big beef processing 453 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: place to like a cow slaughterhouse in Pico Rivera, I 454 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: think just about ten minutes south of downtown LA about it. 455 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: And a gate was left open there and forty cows 456 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 1: escaped and they were running around the streets, and it 457 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: obviously garnered a lot of attention because it's very unusual 458 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: to see a herd of cows running in an urban area, 459 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: and people are getting their phones out and sending videos 460 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: and you know, photos to the media, and the workers 461 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: in animal control and police and stuff. We're rounding up 462 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: all the cows to send them back to the slaughterhouse 463 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 1: to be killed, right, but there was one cow that 464 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: they couldn't capture for more than twenty four hours. She 465 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: was incredibly fast, she was smart. She was just out 466 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 1: running them, out smarting them, and it took them, you know, 467 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 1: over a day to finally capture her. And when they 468 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: finally did, it was it was heartbreaking to watch because 469 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: you know, people got it on their phones, these videos 470 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: of her fighting for her life, and you know, she 471 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: clearly understood, you know, the gravity of the situation she 472 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,479 Speaker 1: was in, and it broke people's hearts. So people all 473 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: around the country asked for her to be released to 474 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: a sanctuary, and that's how she wound up here. We 475 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: were so thrilled to take her in. And then a 476 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: week later we get a call that there was another 477 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: cow that they had discovered in a park twelve miles 478 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: away from the slaughterhouse. So she had walked from the 479 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: slaughterhouse twelve miles to a park and had been in 480 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: hiding there for about eight days. She was living underneath 481 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: a bridge there and was dehydrated and starving and terrified. 482 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: We got her as well, we named the first cow June, 483 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: the second cow named Heer Susan, and move them in 484 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: together the name I know. We move them in together 485 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: to this like back pasture that we have that's away 486 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,959 Speaker 1: from from all the other animals where they could really 487 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: just decompress and and really feel that they were safe. 488 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 1: And they bonded really closely, and they would take turns 489 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: eating while the other one would watch, just keep watching, 490 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: make sure that they were safe. And for the first 491 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: few months, like our stuff couldn't get within like one 492 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: hundred yards of them without them running away. They wanted 493 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 1: nothing to do, nothing to do with human zero trust, 494 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: zero trust. And it's been amazing to see them like 495 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: progress and slowly, slowly become more comfortable with humans. So 496 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: now they're to the point where when I take guests 497 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: in their space, they will keep eating and like, let 498 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: us within you know, fifteen feet of them without them 499 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: running away. They still don't like, you know, contact, I 500 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: get it meet. I wouldn't want it either, e very again, 501 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: like you stay where you're eyes. I thought too hard 502 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: to get where I am right now. 503 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 2: But you know what, I did notice that even though 504 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 2: they like kept doing their thing, they were looking at us, 505 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 2: like they take a minute, and they were they were 506 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 2: so sweet. And I love the power of people on 507 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 2: social media. There's so many times where I'm like, gosh, 508 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,719 Speaker 2: social media really is just like not my vibe. And 509 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 2: the fact that all of these voices rallied together and said, no, 510 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 2: this cow's going to a sanctuary. Sanctuary, I'm so like, 511 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 2: keep doing that, Keep being a voice for these like 512 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 2: incredible animals. By the way, I've had vegans on the podcast. 513 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: Are you a vegan? 514 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 2: I am, yeah, okay, I got I gotta do it 515 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: at least a vegetarian. 516 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: I was watching these cows. I know you are not horrible. 517 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: I know, I know. I mean, it's uh, you know, 518 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 1: it's not an option that is like available to everybody, 519 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 1: and like you know, there are a lot of barriers 520 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 1: in place, you know, to make that sometimes really challenging transition. 521 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: So we always like to say at Farm Sanctuary that 522 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: every time you choose a meal that's plant based, you 523 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: are helping to reduce the harm so you don't eat 524 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: like even doing meatless mondays is a huge help, and 525 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: like maybe only eating meat on the weekends and people 526 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: do that, and if you feel called to make that 527 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: full transition, like more power to you. If you want resources, 528 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 1: we can help you with that, like to learn how 529 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: to do it, so you know, it's not an all 530 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: or nothing game. There's there's lots of room in this 531 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: middle ground to make a difference for animals in the 532 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: environment and workers and communities. 533 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 2: That's something for twenty twenty three that I really would 534 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 2: like to I mean, looking at these the cows, what 535 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 2: was the one I fell in love with? The big 536 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 2: one with staff or cow different? I know, yes, my 537 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 2: mom I was like, oh what, no. 538 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: I cannot eat this anymore. 539 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 4: There's a certain energy and I definitely I'm sure you'll 540 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 4: talk about this at the end if it's even possible 541 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 4: for people to visit, but like there's a certain energy 542 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,959 Speaker 4: when you come on a farm or you're around these animals. 543 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 4: It's like like so much love and positivity and like 544 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 4: they just want to love you. And that's why it's 545 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 4: heartbreaking to think of, Like I think they're probably born 546 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 4: to maybe trust I don't know, maybe trust us, and 547 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 4: then they get and then a lot of times are 548 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 4: the trust is broken and if they're lucky, they're rescued. 549 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 4: But there's just some sort of like powerful beautiful energy, 550 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 4: eyes in the eyes and in the But I do 551 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 4: want to ask you about being vegan because I've got 552 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 4: some DMS about this last time we had someone on 553 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 4: the podcast, so I really would like to know. So 554 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 4: I do this thing where I don't eat meat a lot, 555 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 4: but when I do, I'm like, well, I'm going to 556 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 4: look for grass fed, free range organic because at least 557 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 4: I know, and if this is a myth, bus let 558 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 4: me know. 559 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 3: But at least I know the cows. 560 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 4: Are living out their lives and they're on a pasture 561 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 4: and then when they are their lives and it's they're 562 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 4: taken in the most humane way. 563 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 3: But is that true? 564 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: A fantastic question. Yeah, that's a fantastic I'm so I'm 565 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: so grateful that you asked that because I think that 566 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: that is like a lot of people, Those are the 567 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 1: perspectives that a lot of people have on those labels. Unfortunately, 568 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: and you know, we found this, like you know, throughout 569 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: the farm animal protection movement just with all the you know, 570 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: investigations that have been done over the years, those labels 571 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: are are largely really misleading and you know, are pretty 572 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: much just a marketing ploy to pull out the heart strings. 573 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: Of consumers and to also get people to you know, 574 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 1: pay more money and things like that. So just as 575 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: an example organic dairy for example, or I guess organic 576 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: products in general. In terms of animal products, it just 577 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: means that those animals cannot be be given like antibiotics 578 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: and hormones and things like that, but there's still for 579 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: the most part subjected to many of the same cruelties 580 00:28:55,760 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: that conventionally raised animals are. Like on our organic dairies 581 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: as an example, we've found that there's still kept indoors 582 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: and milked for most of the day and are unable 583 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: to go out outdoors for you know, many hours a day. 584 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: With like free range eggs and cage free eggs, you know, 585 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: those those chickens are still largely kept you know, in 586 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: these giant warehouses with you know, one hundred thousand other 587 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: birds and will hardly get access to the outdoors at 588 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: a cage at a free range facility, no access to 589 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: the outdoors at a cage free facility, So like at 590 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: a free range farm, it can be you know, thousands 591 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: and thousands of birds in a single warehouse. At the 592 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: end of the warehouse there needs to be a small opening, 593 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: you know, to a small patio. It can be like 594 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: a concrete patio that if you're a bird at the 595 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: other end of the warehouse, you'll need to wade through 596 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: potentially hundreds of thousands of other birds to access that 597 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: outdoor space. There doesn't need to be any amount of 598 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: time that these birds have to spend outdoors in order 599 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: to use that label free range. There only needs to 600 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: be theoretical access. But advertisers, when you look at the products, 601 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: they'll they'll have you leave that these birds are outside 602 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: pecking in the grass, enjoying the fresh air and sunshine. Right, yeah, wow. 603 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: Those used to be the eggs that I used to 604 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: choose until I came here on a tour one day 605 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: and I broke down in tears when I was told 606 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: by a tour guide how those birds are at I 607 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: don't even like egg. I forget egg, like really enjoy 608 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: meat that much. Either. 609 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 2: But I feel like, and I don't know if it's 610 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,239 Speaker 2: just where we live where I feel like everything is 611 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 2: like packed with meat, or it's like here's a full bird, 612 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 2: or you know, it just feels like it's kind of 613 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 2: shoved down our throats. And I don't want to say 614 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 2: that I'm well traveled I don't know really what it's 615 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 2: like outside. 616 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: Of America, but it is strange. 617 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 2: I feel like I just have to switch the habits, 618 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 2: look a little deeper into the menu, right, yeah, yeah, yeah. 619 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: And you know that transition is is different for everybody. 620 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: If it's if it's something that you want to do 621 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: for me, for myself personally coming from a place of 622 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: you know, privilege myself, and that being easier than I 623 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: thought it would be just just as an you know, 624 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: from an individual perspective, but for different people, it's different. 625 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 4: It's so interesting too, because I think a lot of 626 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 4: people will say, well, yes, I'll eat this animal and 627 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 4: eat that animal, but I would never eat this other animal. 628 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 4: But that's like like say, I know, you know a 629 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 4: lot of other cultures. Let's just use dogs for example, 630 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 4: because I understand other cultures or whoever. There are some 631 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 4: people who consume dogs, but a lot of people that 632 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 4: I know personally don't. And I learned from you today, Chloe, 633 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 4: that pigs are just as smart, if not smarter than dogs. 634 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:37,720 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of. 635 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 3: People will be like, well, I'll eat pigs because. 636 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 4: They don't really know what's going on, and like, you know, 637 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 4: they're just like whatever, they get killed or their lives end, 638 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 4: and they don't really get it, like they just kind 639 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 4: of bah blah blah all you know, walk around all day. 640 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 3: But that's not the case, right. 641 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: It is really not the case. They're super intelligent, and 642 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: I mean it's really kind of like, you know, complicated 643 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: and hard to quantify and tell. You know, that's kind 644 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: of but yeah, a lot of scientists consider picks to 645 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: be even smarter than dogs. They're incredibly intelligent. We all 646 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: know Wilbur. We all know Wilbur. He could sell, he 647 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: could spell hell, Charlotte's Web. Ye, he's an icon. He 648 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: is an icon. Every animal on this farm is an icon. 649 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: Real quick. 650 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 2: The sanctuary in New York. You said it's how many acres? 651 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: It's about three hundred acres. It's gorgeous. If you ever 652 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: get the chance to visit it is it is stunningly beautiful. 653 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: All right, We're going there and tell me this. 654 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 2: If people wanted to come, yes and visit here, or 655 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 2: they wanted to make a donation, like how do people 656 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 2: find you donate? Come and check out this facility? 657 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, they may for those important questions. I 658 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: really appreciate that, so and so in terms of coming 659 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: to visit for a tour, we actually offer public tours 660 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: every weekend, so every Saturday and Sunday unless it's you know, 661 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: like a major holiday or it's like Christmas or something. 662 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, just go onto our website from Sanctuary dot org. 663 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: We have like a visit us section and you can 664 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 1: book a tour there. So we have public tours. We're 665 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: about to launch our family friendly like children's tour, so 666 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: that's going to be a little bit like mellower language, 667 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: geared towards the little ones, but still learning just about 668 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: the animals and how amazing they are. We also have 669 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: private tours, so if it's you know, if you want 670 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: it's like a special special experience for you and up 671 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: to fourteen other people. We offer private tours throughout the week. 672 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: You just need to book that directly with us. And 673 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: then in terms of donations, such an important question because 674 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: that's how we get most of our funding. It's expensive 675 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: to run sanctuaries. It's a lot of org. So if 676 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: you want to make a donation, same website farm sanctuary 677 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: dot org. Yeah, thank you, perfect, We will be donating. 678 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: We do have social yeah, yeah, yes, yes, we have 679 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: a beautiful Instagram. I think we were on TikTok now, 680 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: which is exciting. Yes, we have a Facebook. All that 681 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: good stuff at farm Sanctuary perfect. I love it. 682 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 2: I'm so honored that you guys gave us an incredible tour. 683 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 2: Thank you for allowing us to be here and just 684 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 2: keeping a voice for our voiceless, beautiful animals. Oh you 685 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,800 Speaker 2: guys are fucking rock stars a part of my language. 686 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: Oh no, that's just fine. Thank you so much for 687 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: coming and it was an honor to host you today. 688 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, and my loves make sure you 689 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 2: go check out Farmsanctuary dot org. 690 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: I love you all and I will catch you next week.