1 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: It's that time. 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 2: Time time, time. 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: Luck and load. The Michael Verie Show is on the air. 4 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 3: Since you brought up the declassification report that was put 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 3: out by Senator Grassley today, I'm glad you brought it up, 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 3: because this should be a story every outlet in this 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 3: room should be covering. This is further evidence that Hillary 8 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 3: Clinton approved the Russia hoax against President Trump, her campaign 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 3: financed it. Again, she approved it, and the FBI and 10 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 3: the CIA were both weaponized to, as our Director of 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 3: CIA has said, accelerate this hoax against then candidate and 12 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 3: former President Trump. 13 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 4: This has come from the highest levels of the Russian government, 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 4: clearly from Pluton himself, in an effort, as seventeen of 15 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 4: our intelligence agencies have confirmed, to influence our election. So 16 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 4: I actually think the most important question of this evening, Chris, 17 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 4: is finally, will Donald Trump admit and condemn that the 18 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 4: Russians are doing this and make it clear that he 19 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 4: will not have the help of Putin in this election. 20 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 5: There is no denying that the Russians interfered in the election, 21 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 5: whether or not they had willing or unwitting help from 22 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 5: the Trump team, they interfered, and they did so to 23 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 5: help him and hurt me. 24 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 6: Putin's principal interests relating to the twenty sixteen election were 25 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 6: to undermine faith in the US democratic process, not show 26 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 6: any preference of a certain candidate. In fact, this report 27 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,839 Speaker 6: shows Putin held back from leaking compromising material on Hillary 28 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 6: Clinton prior to the election, instead planning to release it 29 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 6: after the election to weaken what Moscow viewed as an 30 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 6: inevitable Clinton president. 31 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 7: I can't you remember the name Merrick Garland. Joe Biden 32 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 7: wanted to put Merrick Garland on the Supreme Court. Merrick 33 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 7: Carland was is a little passive, aggressive. 34 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: Weasel. He is. 35 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 7: A hyperpartisan, maga hating career bureaucrat type. 36 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: And these these little insipid little fellas. 37 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 7: It's it's always a white man with with glasses who 38 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 7: looks like he's just going to kill over at any moment. 39 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 7: Who met uh, Harry Reid type, look if you remember. 40 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 1: But it was a no go. 41 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 7: He's not going to be on the Supreme Court. And 42 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 7: actually I think it was maybe it was Obama that 43 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 7: wanted to put him on the Supreme Court. And he's 44 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 7: far too left, but he was the Democrat's dream candidate. 45 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: So Biden. 46 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 7: Made him his Attorney general, and if you remember correctly, 47 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 7: he weaponized the Department of Justice against Trump's supporters, made 48 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 7: Trump supporters out to be terrorists, murderers, horrible people, while 49 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 7: simultaneously making sure that illegal aliens got away with the 50 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 7: highest crimes imaginable. So we can stipulate his fact. I 51 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 7: think at this point, Merrick Garland is not my friend. 52 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 7: He's not your friend, and he's not a friend to 53 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 7: the average American, So it would seem odd. 54 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: I would think. 55 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 7: That Merrick Garland was received the most passionate high praise 56 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 7: from a Republican senator who's part of the leadership of 57 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 7: the Republicans in the Senate, I would feel odd, wouldn't it. 58 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: Well, it happened. Listen to this this morning. 59 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 8: I had a very good conversation with Judge Merrick Garland, 60 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 8: who President Biden is nominated for Attorney General. 61 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: Judge Garland's extensive. 62 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 8: Legal experience makes him well suited to lead the Department 63 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 8: of Justice, and I appreciated his commitment to keep politics 64 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 8: out of the Justice Department. That is my number one 65 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 8: criterion for who should be the next head of the 66 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 8: Department of Justice as Attorney General, and I think both 67 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 8: sides should support a depoliticized justice department. 68 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 7: Wow, he's really really excited about Merrick Garland while calling 69 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 7: the folks on January sixth, white supremacists and terrorists, asking 70 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 7: the FBI director if he needed more laws to be 71 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 7: passed through the Senate so that he could go after 72 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 7: anyone who ambled through the Capitol on January sixth and 73 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 7: read the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution out loud. 74 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 7: Here is more from that senator from Texas who's in 75 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 7: a runoff, John Cornyn. When George Floyd overdosed on fentanyl, 76 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 7: he wasn't choked out. And oh, by the way, if 77 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 7: you think he was, you probably have about eight boosters 78 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 7: from the vaccine that didn't work, which, by the way, 79 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 7: John Cornyn was vaccinated and boosted. 80 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: Of course he was. He acts like it. 81 00:05:54,720 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 7: But here is John Cornyn eulogizing that great Houstonian George 82 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 7: Floyd on the Senate floor. 83 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 8: Ours is a nation with a split screen of a 84 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 8: battle on two fronts. One is the pandemic that we've 85 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 8: been fighting now for many months, and the other is 86 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 8: to continue the fight to defeat racial injustice that has 87 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 8: sadly divided our nation since its very inception. One week 88 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 8: ago today, George Floyd, a native Houstonian, was tragically died 89 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 8: in the custody. 90 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: Of a law enforcement officer. 91 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 8: As a gut wrenching video of his death spread, so 92 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 8: has the passion and the anger among all of us 93 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 8: who wonder how can something like that happen. Our constitution 94 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 8: guarantees every American the right to protest injustice, and I 95 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 8: believe we all have a responsibility to stand up for 96 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 8: what's right and condemn what is plainly wrong. People of 97 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 8: all color, background and ages are demanding that justice be 98 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 8: served in the case of George Floyd. The first step 99 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 8: in that process came on Friday when the officer who 100 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 8: had him in custody he was himself arrested and charged 101 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 8: with third degree murders. 102 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: What yeah, allow me to introduce my setting. 103 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 2: My name is Mitta Michael Berry, Genius. 104 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 9: The Texas Senate race is by far the most important 105 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 9: race of the cycle, and all eyes right now are 106 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 9: a President Trump to see who he endorses. And look, 107 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 9: I understand it is very rare for a sitting president 108 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 9: to endorse against an incumbent senator in his party. Now, 109 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 9: President Trump rightfully endorsed a primary challenger to Senator Bill Cassidy, 110 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 9: who deserved it. He voted to impeach Trump. But I 111 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 9: would actually argue that Cornyin is much worse than Senator Cassidy. 112 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 9: For every controversial decision President Trump has made, and of 113 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 9: course by controversial, I mean something that morning Joe and 114 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 9: Mika don't want. But for every I guess controversial decision, 115 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 9: there is a statement from John Cornyan criticizing President Trump 116 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 9: about it. And you know, we knew Cornin was bad, 117 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 9: but the barrage of oppo that's dropped on him over 118 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 9: the last seventy two hours exposing Corden's record, I am 119 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 9: in shock just how bad it is. I decided to 120 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 9: get out my copy of Government Gangsters here by Cash Hotel. 121 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 9: In this book, Cash Hotel lists out there's an index 122 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 9: of names of the worst and most corrupt deep state actors. 123 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 2: And I went through the list. 124 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: Of names in next name by name. 125 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 9: And just searched that person's name, and then John Cornan's statement. Literally, 126 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 9: without fail, John Cornyan has defended every single bad actor 127 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 9: listed in this book. I mean, like it is just 128 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 9: it is amazing to me that he goes out of 129 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 9: his way. When Trump criticized Gina Haswell, for example, Cornyin 130 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 9: went on television that said she was doing a fantastic job. 131 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 9: And when Trump fired Mark Esper, Cornan went on TV 132 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 9: and called it unhelpful and unnecessary. When Trump size doctor 133 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 9: Fauci for refusing to open schools and businesses, John Corny 134 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 9: called Fauci a national treasure. 135 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 2: When Biden nominated. 136 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 9: Notorious Russiate Hope stokenspirator Lisa Monico for Deputy ag, Cordin 137 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 9: took to the Senate for to give a full throated, 138 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 9: glowing endorsement for re nomination. When Trump wanted to fire 139 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 9: Robert Mueller, Cordon defended Mueller's honor, saying it would be 140 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 9: a huge mistake for Trump to fire him. When Trump 141 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 9: fired James Tony, Cordon went on TV and called it 142 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 9: a troubling and terrible decision recorded I mean, repeatedly praised 143 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 9: and slobbered over James Comy, calling him a good and 144 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 9: decent man. Quick reminder, James Comy called for the assassination 145 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 9: of President Trump. When the sham Egen Carrol verdict came out, 146 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 9: Cornyn ran to MSBC to say that this because of 147 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 9: this verdict Donald Trump was unelectable and shouldn't run again. 148 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 9: When Alvin Bragg was indicting Trump, John Corny defended Bragg 149 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 9: and said the process was necessary and needed to play out. 150 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 9: Regarding January sixth, John Cornyn compared it to nine to eleven, 151 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 9: then called the J six attendees quote white supremacist, domestic terrorist, insurrectionist, rioters, seditionist. 152 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 2: And anarchist. 153 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 9: He then asked then FBI Director Chris Ray if a 154 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 9: new law was needed to charge the J six attendees 155 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 9: with domestic terrorism. And when the Senate tried to impeach 156 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 9: Donald Trump for a second time, Cornet's only complaint was 157 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 9: that the impeachment process was actually holding up them and 158 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 9: delaying Biden being able to get his cabinet nominees confirmed. 159 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: And I could go on and on. 160 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 7: Carolyn Wrenn, who you heard there as a former National 161 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 7: Finance Director for President Trump. She's our guest, and yes, 162 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 7: we would like her to go on and on. Carolyn, 163 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 7: welcome to the program. 164 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 10: Thank you. 165 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 7: As a fellow Texan, you have have a great stake 166 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 7: in this in addition to being someone who's been around 167 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 7: the process for a long time. I have to tell you. 168 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 7: I was big for Paxton. I still am as an 169 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 7: attorney general. He's the best attorney general and grad in 170 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 7: the great set of Texas in my lifetime, by pure action, 171 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 7: by actions taken. 172 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: By cases brought by cases. 173 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 7: One, by willingness to take on big tech, big pharma, 174 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 7: you name it. And he has had a bullseye on 175 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 7: him because of that. And I think that's a big 176 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 7: part of a lot of what's going on here, as 177 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 7: well as the swamp wanting to keep one of their 178 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 7: own because they can control him, and the swamp hating Trump. 179 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 7: But let's get to exactly what has happened a little 180 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 7: bit of an overview before we get into kind of 181 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 7: the receipts of one by one. I have to tell you, 182 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 7: being around this process for a minute, I've never seen 183 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 7: the base and conservative influencers rally together against a sitting 184 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,719 Speaker 7: incumbent like this in my lifetime. Since last Wednesday, when 185 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 7: President Trump made this statement that he was going to 186 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 7: endorse one and push the other one out, the reaction 187 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 7: has and my understanding is Trump has stood down from 188 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 7: that and is quite angry he didn't get better advice 189 00:11:59,000 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 7: on it. 190 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if you have any inside on that that. 191 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 10: Is what I've heard as well. 192 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 2: I think that there are some folks within the White 193 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 2: House that I guess feel strongly that Cornyn should get 194 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 2: the endorsement. And so, you know, right now, President Trump's 195 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 2: the busiest man in the world. He's, you know, our 196 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 2: commander in chief. We're in a war with Iran. He's 197 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 2: got the weight of the world on his shoulders, and 198 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 2: you know, the only sees limited information. And so I 199 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 2: do worry. And this is kind of why there's been 200 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 2: so many of us being so vocal, is that he's 201 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 2: not being shown just you know, the amount of times 202 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 2: that Cornyn has just been absolutely awful to him. And 203 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 2: Cornyn doesn't go on Fox News to say this stuff. 204 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 2: He runs to his friends at morning Joe, MSNBC, CNN, 205 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 2: C SPAN, And it's not like Donald Trump's sitting around watching, 206 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 2: you know, MSMBC. So this is why I think it 207 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 2: is so important and why we've gotten extremely loud over 208 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 2: the last seventy two hours, is because we're just trying 209 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 2: to make sure that that President Trump and other folks 210 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 2: in the White House are reminded that at every single turn, 211 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 2: John Cornyn is in no way an ally He is 212 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 2: in fact an enemy. 213 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 7: Carolyn Wren is our guest, a very good follow on 214 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 7: Twitter if you're looking for more background on what she's 215 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 7: talking about. The premise behind all of this that the 216 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 7: Swamp has to use is electability. Paxton cannot be elected. 217 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 7: Even though they impeached him, he got re elected. He's 218 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 7: never lost these statewide elections. He just keeps winning. And 219 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 7: the Bush machine is behind him. Texans for Lawsuit Reform 220 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 7: is against him. Sorry is against him, The Swamp is 221 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 7: against him. All these big money people are against him. 222 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 7: Carl Rove is against him. He just keeps winning. Cornan's 223 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 7: never really had a battle. But I'd like to address 224 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 7: the fact that their argument is, well, Paxton can't win 225 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 7: in November. Only Cornan is electable. And what's interesting about this, 226 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 7: Carolyn Wren, is that's the exact argument Cornyn used to 227 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 7: tell Trump he shouldn't run in twenty twenty four. 228 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:05,599 Speaker 1: You're not electable. 229 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 2: That is what the establishment loves to use. That is 230 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 2: their favorite line to use with people, and that you 231 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 2: were spot on because that is what they kept saying 232 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 2: about Donald Trump over and over is he can't win, 233 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 2: and it's ridiculous. Paxton has won twice statewide, and even 234 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 2: this morning, some new polling came out and it actually 235 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 2: has that John Cornyn has a lower favorable rate than Paxton. 236 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 2: And why that is amazing is Paxton just took on 237 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 2: a seventy million dollar barrage of negative TV ads and 238 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 2: still has higher favorite meersens in Cornin And there's been 239 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 2: zero dollars spent against Cornyn. I mean, seventy five percent 240 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 2: of voters in the state of Texas. This is general 241 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 2: election voters disliked John Cornyn because they have watched him 242 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 2: for four terms just at everything el churt not be 243 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 2: representative of what the people of Texas want. And so 244 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 2: you don't even have to spend a bunch of money 245 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 2: on Cornn. 246 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 10: Because the people of Texas know this. 247 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 2: And so can you imagine when the Democrats actually start 248 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 2: to spend money against Cornyn, it's gonna be on the 249 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 2: like there's gonna just be if it's already out twenty 250 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 2: five percent, can you grade how much lower he can go? 251 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 2: And the thing about Paxton is there's nothing left to 252 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 2: come out about him. And here's a good example of 253 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: something that happened this weekend that was very frustrating to me. 254 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 2: I had a friend of mine who put out as 255 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 2: a state legislator and put out an endorsement of Paxton, 256 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 2: and this legislatures is actually in a different state, and 257 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 2: she immediately got a call from the White House saying, 258 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 2: you cannot, you need to rescind your endorsement. Kim Paxton's 259 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: the Warkfrector's going to come out. It can be really bad. 260 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: You've got the Michael Berry's show. Carolyn Wrenn is our guest. 261 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 7: She is one of the folks who have been getting 262 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 7: a lot of action on social media over the weekend 263 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 7: talking about the record that is John Cornyan. 264 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 1: There is a primary. 265 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 7: In about nine weeks now, primary runoff, and I would 266 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 7: remind you folks when we talk about electability, I've been 267 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 7: through a few of these. We've talked about the Ted 268 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 7: Cruz twenty twelve win. When Ted Cruz comes out of 269 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 7: the position that nobody knows of solicitor general and beats 270 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 7: the sitting lieutenant governor who poured a ton of cash in, 271 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 7: who had never had a glove laid on him, who 272 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 7: had been spending money on Republicans, Republican women's groups. 273 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: Who was polling very high. 274 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 7: Cruz comes out of nowhere with tea parties support. 275 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: After the general. 276 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 7: After the first round of the primary, when Cruz makes 277 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 7: it into the runoff, everyone knew the race was over, 278 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 7: even though Dewhurst was in the lead. And the reason 279 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 7: was because we know who shows up in Republican primary runoffs, 280 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 7: and it's the people that John Cornyn said last week 281 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 7: are radicals. The way he won't win is if the 282 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 7: radicals show up, and that's you, Carolyn Rennet. 283 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: It sounds like you might be a radical as well. 284 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 2: I am. I'm a radical conservative that you know, demands 285 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: that my representatives represent what they say they're going to 286 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 2: and John corn does do that. 287 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 7: Make America accountable again. Here was a quote on that 288 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 7: was posted on Fox News in twenty twenty four, credited 289 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 7: to John Cornyn. 290 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: He's talking about Donald Trump. 291 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,479 Speaker 7: I do not think he could win the presidency, and 292 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 7: so I think, regardless of what you think about him 293 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 7: as an individual, to me, electability is the sole criterion. 294 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 7: They have suggested that Ken Paxton's messy divorce, which by 295 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 7: the way, Donald Trump had a couple of them. There 296 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 7: are more than there are more than a few folks 297 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 7: listening right now who've been through a messy divorce and 298 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 7: it doesn't make you an awful person. Maybe all made 299 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 7: up for the kids, or maybe you never did. It happens, 300 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 7: it's unfortunate. We're looking to send somebody to DC who's 301 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 7: going to fight for us. Paxton's record shows he'll do that. 302 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 7: Cornan's record shows he won't, and that's what we're here 303 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 7: to talk about. 304 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 2: I agree, and also like the regarding the they're trying. 305 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 10: To say he's unelectable because of a messy divorce. 306 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Find me the Christian voter in Texas who's 307 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,120 Speaker 2: going to say, oh, you know what, I can't vote 308 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 2: for Ken Paxton because he's divorced, So instead, I'm going 309 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 2: to vote for James Tallerico, the guy that thinks that 310 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 2: God is non binary and pro choice. 311 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 10: Find me to that voter. 312 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 7: Well said, let's go through some of the things that 313 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 7: you have pointed out, because I think when folks, as 314 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 7: you pointed out, a lot of what Cornyn does, he 315 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 7: does over on the left and in the swamp that 316 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 7: doesn't make it onto Fox News and folks may not 317 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 7: know it. I'm going to bounce around here, but after 318 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 7: January sixth, Well, I remind everyone President Trump pardoned the 319 00:18:55,960 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 7: folks involved on January sixth, twenty twenty one. We'll play 320 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 7: the audio later after Carolyn's gone of John Cornyan talking 321 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 7: about the J sixers as white supremacist, domestic terrorists, anarchists 322 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 7: and asking Christopher Ray, the FBI director, Uh, do you 323 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 7: need a new law for domestic terrorism so we can 324 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 7: put these people away? 325 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 2: I mean, isn't that was you? 326 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 10: Ken? 327 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: And I should have put a little what. 328 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 2: He wanted to do, and so this this is deeply 329 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 2: personal for me. In fact, I was one of the 330 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 2: first seven people subpoena by Congress for J six It 331 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 2: was me, Cash Bettel, Steve Bannon, Dan Scavino, Peter Navarro. 332 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 10: I can't remember the others. 333 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 2: Because at that time I was the national finance director 334 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 2: for President Trump's campaign. And actually someone had called and said, 335 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 2: you know, the President's going to speak at this rally 336 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 2: at the White House ellipse, and so they need to 337 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 2: raise some money because it was not a campaign event. 338 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 2: They needed to raise money to put that on. I mean, 339 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 2: when President Trump speaks at an event millions of dollars 340 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 2: of security. And so I helped do that and helped 341 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 2: organize the speeches that day, and one of the first 342 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 2: people I called and said I need you to come 343 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 2: speak was Ken Paxton. Kim Paxton got on a plane 344 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 2: the next day. And I always ask people when you're 345 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 2: trying to decide, you know who is actually with Trump? 346 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 2: Where were you on January sixth, I could tell you 347 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 2: Ken Paxton was on stage at the White House alifts 348 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 2: calling out the sham election, while John Cornyn was calling 349 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 2: us domestic terrorist and colluding with Christopher Ray to decide 350 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 2: if we should be charged with domestic terrorism and locked 351 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 2: away for five to ten twenty years. That to me, 352 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 2: there shouldn't even have to be anything else said in 353 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 2: this primary than that alone. 354 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 7: But fortunately there is plenty more to tell. The second 355 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 7: Trump impeachment, Cornyn got involved. 356 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 2: Talk about that, Carolyn, Yeah, but the second you know, 357 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 2: Trump of Peatree. If you remember the second Trump appeachment, 358 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 2: Trump was out of office at this time, and so 359 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 2: it was just a completely ludicrous impeachment trial. And John 360 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 2: Cornyn was largely silent except for. 361 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 10: What I found a clip of him. 362 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 2: Complaining not about the merits of this impeachment process. He 363 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 2: was complaining that this was slowing down their ability to 364 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 2: confirm Joe Biden's cabinet picks like this is the problem 365 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 2: with Cornyan, and Cornan's team loves it out. Oh, he 366 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 2: voted ninety nine percent of the time with President Trump. 367 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 2: They give me break. Every senator can. 368 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 10: Make up that stat. 369 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 2: They all like, there are rarely any votes that even 370 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 2: come and a lot of those are just procedural votes. 371 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 2: But that is not what we are looking at here. 372 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 2: It is that, I mean the amount of times that 373 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 2: Cornan has not only just like obstructed Donald Trump trash 374 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 2: Donald Trump, but he does it in the left wing media, 375 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 2: which to me is just the if you could actually 376 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 2: back up what you if you really believe these things 377 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 2: that you're saying, go say it in front of actual conservatives. 378 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 2: But he doesn't. The one time I've even seen him 379 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 2: get in front of a conservative audience was twenty twenty 380 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 2: two when he tried to speak at the Texas GOB 381 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 2: Convention and ten thousand delegates I think vooed him for 382 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 2: thirteen straight minutes off the stage. I'm not even sure 383 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 2: if we've seen on Corny and do any type of 384 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 2: public like the town hall appearance. 385 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 10: In the state of Texas since then. 386 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 2: And that's because he can't. 387 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think not to correct, but I think it 388 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 7: was actually fourteen minutes. I saw that over the weekend. 389 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 7: It's awful either way. It's a very long period of time, 390 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 7: and that's the base when the Republican Party, the grassroots 391 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 7: folks that turn out votes, come to the convention and 392 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 7: you get up to speak and you're the guy they boo. 393 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 7: That's as unelectable as it gets. Who do you think 394 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 7: was in Trump's ear to try to get him to 395 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,479 Speaker 7: push Paxton out by endorsing Corn and telling him that 396 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 7: Paxton can't win and wind end up with Tall Rica. 397 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 7: Do you have a sense of who that might have been? 398 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 2: Well, I do think. You know, the senior political advisors 399 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 2: for President Trump are working for the corn campaign. And 400 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 2: I you know, I'm being a little careful here because 401 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 2: they are friends of mine. I've known them because I've 402 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 2: worked for the Trump campaign for a long time, and 403 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 2: you know they were told to go and work for 404 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 2: corn in I'm not that I'm giving them a pass there, 405 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 2: you know, but when your polster, like President Trump's polster, 406 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 2: is the polster for Cornyn, So when polling is showed 407 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 2: to President Trump, it's from his polster, and so you 408 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 2: know that polster is showing him that Ken Paxton can't win. 409 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 2: And I always like to joke that polls are for 410 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 2: strippers and firemen, not for predicting elections, because these polsters 411 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 2: will just make up whatever they want to convince whoever 412 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 2: their audience is of reading it. 413 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 10: And I think that's what's happening here well. 414 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 7: And the President after saying is going to happen quickly 415 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 7: and letting fun get too far out there saying we're 416 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 7: pressuring the president. What do you have to pressure the 417 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 7: president with other than withholding the Save Act? And that 418 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 7: is as shameful as it gets. And I think that 419 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 7: I think that that Patchton has handled this whole thing 420 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 7: like a maestro, saying, hey, if. 421 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 1: Y'all pass the Save Act, I'll pull out. 422 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 7: And then he proved they don't have any intention of 423 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 7: passing the Save Act. 424 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 10: I have no intention of passing the Save Act. 425 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,719 Speaker 2: And it's it is wildly fresh. I mean, they may 426 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 2: be forced into it. It was a big deal when 427 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 2: President Trump said over the weekend that he's not going 428 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 2: to sign a single bill until this comes to his death, 429 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 2: so he is really putting them in a box. But 430 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 2: what I loved about what Paxton did if he recognizes 431 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 2: that Donald Trump is the best deal maker in history. 432 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 2: And so Paxton said, all right, I'm going to give 433 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 2: Donald Trump the chips that he needs to go make 434 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 2: a deal. 435 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: To make the deal. Carolyn wrin is our guest. We'll 436 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 1: continue our conversation coming up. He can't. 437 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 7: Well, a report comes out that a new poll commissioned 438 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 7: by the Senate Majority pack found quote no meaningful difference 439 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 7: in electability end quote between Senator John Cornyn and Texas 440 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 7: A G. Ken Paxton in a general election matchup against 441 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 7: Democrat State Rep. 442 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: James tallerco So, how does. 443 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 7: John Cornyan react to the news that, well, electability is 444 00:24:54,880 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 7: not an issue any longer, he says, quote trans Schumer 445 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 7: promoting Paxton, who he knows would be the Democrat's best 446 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 7: chance to win a red Senate seat. Well, that's rich, 447 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 7: John Corny. So the swamp wants Paxton now and not you. 448 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 7: That's very cute. Carolyn Wrenn as our guest. She's a 449 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 7: former national finance director for the Donald Trump campaign. She's 450 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 7: also a proud Texan and she has been all over 451 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 7: this issue of the attempt to keep the Texas voters 452 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 7: from deciding who our nominee would be who will beat 453 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 7: Tallerico come November, And we asked her to come on 454 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 7: and talk about some of those things, because you list 455 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 7: a lot of things that are very troubling that I 456 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 7: want to make sure Texans understand about the record of 457 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 7: John Cornyn. He called James Comy a good and decent man, 458 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 7: a man who, as you noted, called for the assassination 459 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 7: of President Trump. 460 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 2: That's right, Comy is one of the absolute worst actors. 461 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 2: With every bad actor, there is a John Cornyn statement. 462 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: Defending that bad actor crazy. 463 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 2: And I put out too that people have been asking me, 464 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 2: like Carolin, how are you finding all this opo on 465 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 2: John Cornyn? 466 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 10: I said, I'm a fundraiser. I don't do opposition research. 467 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 2: But over the weekend, I just google Donald Trump controversy. 468 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 2: Then I pick a controversy, then I google that controversy 469 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 2: and John Cornyn, and then sift through dozens of statements 470 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: from John Cornyn criticizing Trump for said controversy. Repeat, it's 471 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 2: that easy, that consistent. 472 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 7: You told on Twitter, Hey, anybody else wants to find 473 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 7: all the stuff I've found, and no secrets here. This 474 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 7: isn't the rumor builders. This is what is in print. 475 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 7: This is how I did it for people who don't 476 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 7: know who Gina Haskell and Mark Esper are. I think 477 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 7: those are important issues that maybe the average voter doesn't 478 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 7: recognize those names, right. 479 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 2: No, Gena Hassell was the CIA director who has put 480 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 2: these are a lot of these people linked back to 481 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 2: the Russia Colusia rushigates. And why Cornyn is so critical 482 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 2: during this time is Cornin was one of the most 483 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 2: senior members, if not the most senior member, on the 484 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 2: Judiciary Committee, which is where a lot of this stuff 485 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 2: all originated out of. Was the Judiciary Committee, That is 486 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 2: where these investigations came out of, where the oversight was 487 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 2: supposed to come out of. He was there in a 488 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 2: leadership position over and over again, and instead of trying 489 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 2: to stop this and saying this is absolutely absurd, he 490 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 2: was defending it. I mean he was defending everything from 491 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 2: FISA warrant He's gone on consistently still to this day, saying, oh, FISA, 492 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,679 Speaker 2: you know they do not spy on Americans. We know 493 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 2: they do. Like, stop peeing on my leg and telling 494 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 2: me it's raining. That is what I feel like with 495 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 2: John Cornyn every day. 496 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: Well, he's gotten away with it for twenty four years. 497 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 7: I think there's a certain amount of hubris to him 498 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 7: and Thune and Tom Tillis, who's on his way out now, 499 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 7: and Lindsey Graham and Tim Scott. They think they can 500 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 7: get away with this nonsense. Mitch McConnell, that's the crew. 501 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 7: It's hard to believe it's Republicans causing us the problems 502 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 7: more so than the Democrats, because you know, we have 503 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 7: no body to take our our at least we can 504 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 7: beat the Democrats with the Republicans, They've got all the 505 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 7: money and they sort of suffocate our primaries. You bring 506 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 7: up something that's very important, and it's easy for people 507 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 7: to remember the recent in recent memory. Once President Trump recognized, hey, 508 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 7: Fauci's not the guy he's causing a lot of problems, 509 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 7: and he started saying that in twenty twenty, Cornan jumped 510 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 7: to Fauci's defense. 511 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. I found a clip of Cornyn, you know, 512 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 2: doing an interview with CNN and saying that Fauci is 513 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 2: a national treasure. And I'm trying to be very careful 514 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 2: here and I don't want to you know, spread and misinformation. 515 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 2: There's no need to. 516 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 10: Because there's so much with Cornyn. 517 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 2: So there are a lot of people in the beginning 518 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 2: who were, including Donald Trump, who were praising Fauci, and 519 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 2: a lot of people who were sitting at home terrified 520 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 2: during COVID and we were trusting Fauci. But let me 521 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 2: be perfectly clear here. This was very late on when 522 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 2: and President Trump had just come out and said enough 523 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 2: of enough Fauci. We have got to start opening school 524 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 2: and getting these masks off our kids and letting businesses open. 525 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 2: And right after Trump made that statement is when John 526 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 2: Cornyn ran to CNN and said, no, Donald Trump is 527 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 2: wrong and Fauci is a national treasure. So we're not 528 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 2: clipping these things just to like, you know, screw over 529 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 2: corn In here or try and be misleading. This was, 530 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 2: I mean with every time Trump goes out and says 531 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 2: here's what I want to do to lead our nation, 532 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 2: then John Cornyn goes on MSNBC or CNN and says 533 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 2: Trump is wrong, and here's why. 534 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: Lisa Monico and Joe Biden talk about why that's important. 535 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 2: I mean, Lisa Monico that it's just crazy to me. 536 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 8: This was. 537 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 2: This is so far after the rushigate. Lisa Monica was 538 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 2: a key key, Russiagate host, host, co conspirator, and when 539 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 2: Biden nominated her to be the Deputy Attorney General. So 540 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 2: this was, you know, many years after the full like 541 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 2: Russiagate hopes had come to light and even Cornyn had 542 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 2: started to say, oh, it was all a hoax. He 543 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 2: then goes to the Senate floor to give a growing 544 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 2: endorsement of Lisamoniko for Deputy Attorney General, for Biden's pick, 545 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 2: and then votes for her. Like, guys, this is nuts. 546 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 7: What have I not brought up that you think is 547 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 7: important to understand about the record of John Cornyn. 548 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 2: Well, I think the record of John Cornyn we've gone 549 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 2: through a lot of it. But I want to talk 550 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 2: us for a second about the record of Ken Paxon. 551 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 2: I've known Kim Paxton for a long time, but now 552 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 2: I really got to know him. Is I was the 553 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 2: fundraiser for a group called the Republican Attorney's General Association. 554 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 2: It's the trade association that basically raises money to support 555 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 2: Republican ags, and all of our donors are corporations. Ken 556 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 2: Paxon was the worst member of the Republican Attorney General 557 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 2: Association because every corporation hated him. This is why he 558 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 2: is so important to get in. Why do they hate him? 559 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 2: Because Ken Paxton does not care what the donor class 560 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 2: or the corporations think of him. Ken Paxson has sued 561 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 2: every major company in this country. And this is why 562 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 2: VC is having such a meltdown about having him come. 563 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 2: Why they have to have John Cornyn is because Ken 564 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 2: Paxon represents and fights for me the people, not for 565 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 2: the corporations. Can get back to the sued Pfizer, Blackrock, Vanguard, 566 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 2: State Street, Google, Sheen Ali Baba, I mean, you name it. 567 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 2: And those are all the same people, by the way, 568 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 2: who are at the cocktail parties in DC donating to 569 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 2: the nrsc RAGA, to Sun's Senate leadership pack that just 570 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 2: spent seventy million dollars against Paxton. Where did they get 571 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 2: that money? That money is from these same corporations that 572 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 2: Ken Paxon has spent the last decade suing on behalf 573 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 2: of the people of Texas. That is what this is 574 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 2: all about, truly, that is what it and that is 575 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 2: why if you are a textan listening to this, you 576 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 2: need to do everything in your power to make sure 577 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 2: Ken Paxson is elected. Because he is not beholden to 578 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,479 Speaker 2: the money in Washington or the corporations. He's beholden to you. 579 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 2: And that is why they cannot have him, and that 580 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 2: is why they are spending seventy one million, two hundred 581 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 2: million to keep him out. 582 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 7: The most money ever spent on a Republican primary candidate 583 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 7: of all time. 584 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: And he's taken no shots. Yet. 585 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 7: Imagine what's going to happen when somebody has the money 586 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:11,239 Speaker 7: to unload on him. Ken Paxton has lower unfavorables and 587 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 7: higher favorables in the state of Texas than John Cornyn does. 588 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: After Cornyn spent all in, it ends up being. 589 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 7: Close to almost one hundred million dollars when you look 590 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 7: at the outside packs and everything else. 591 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter the exact number. 592 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 7: The point is Cornyn is attacking everyone else, and yet 593 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 7: his numbers don't seem to move. 594 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: And we haven't even begun to. 595 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 7: Discuss the fact that his daughter works for a lobbying 596 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 7: firm with seemingly no qualifications that all of a sudden 597 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 7: seems to be getting big deals with the administration. We'll 598 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 7: have plenty of time to get to that in the future. 599 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 7: Carolyn Wren, former National Finance Director for the Trump campaign. 600 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 7: Thanks for spending some. 601 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:50,239 Speaker 1: Time with us. 602 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 2: Thank you. 603 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: And much to get to on. 604 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 7: The show today. This will be a subject we will 605 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 7: be discussing quite a bit until until late May when 606 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 7: the runoff will occur.