1 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're not feeling great about 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: that Lions to the super Bowl prediction. 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 2: I'm Greg Rosenthal. 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: Here in the Chris Westling podcast studio with my friend 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:19,479 Speaker 1: Cynthia Freeland for our weekly pick segment. It used to 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: be called man versus Machine, but we thought that was 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: unfair to Cynthia, who is a living, breathing woman with emotions, 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: says she's not a machine. 9 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 3: Emotions. Where are those? 10 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: Your computer model doesn't have emotions? And that's what really 11 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: is nailing these picks for you week after week. It 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: was me who picked the Lions to the super Bowl, 13 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: and I'm feeling a little uneasy. I even rode with 14 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: them last week against the Packers. That's one of the 15 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: reasons why I have a losing record so far on 16 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: the season. I went one and two, and yes, if 17 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: you're watching on YouTube, we love you the YouTube audience 18 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: big for this show. On one and two, Cynthia, you 19 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: went two and one. I had the line. As I mentioned, 20 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: I also lost on the Giants. Terrible pick there. My 21 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: Jaguars came through for me. You were on both sides 22 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: of crazy comebacks. You got the bills to help you out, 23 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 1: but the Bears let you down in the fourth quarter, 24 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: and then you also had the bucks. 25 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 2: So you start off two. 26 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: In one and then I do scribble all those yeah, 27 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: you know teams that the app. Last week the scribbles 28 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: went three and two. We're going to keep track unofficially. 29 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 3: Well, scribbles are like where it's at. 30 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: Last year, the scribbles were good. Those were the extra picks. 31 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: Today I only have two extra picks. I want to 32 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: start with you, though, you get to go first because, 33 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 1: as everyone knows, your model nailed the Super Bowl prediction 34 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: before a year ago. You won this competition a year ago, 35 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: and you went too and one last week, so you go. 36 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 3: For and my super Bowl picks won their first games. 37 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 3: So that's good. 38 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 2: Well was it this year? 39 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 3: Lls over Eagles? 40 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 2: Okay? 41 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I mean. 42 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: Those defense got something to work. 43 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 3: I feel great about it. But they're they're both one 44 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 3: and o. Then that's all I care about, you know, 45 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 3: one one week at a time. Greg, Okay, let let's start. 46 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 3: I'm going to see spicy. 47 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 2: I want to me. 48 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 3: Look, I'm gonna keep this one pretty pretty boring and neutral. 49 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 3: I think Cincinnati as three and a half is not 50 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 3: I don't like the half. I don't care. I have 51 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 3: them winning by six. You know, I'm a pretty conservative modeler, 52 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 3: so I think Cincinnati wins by more than three and 53 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 3: a half points at home against the Jacks. 54 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 1: When you say you're a conservative model, or maybe explain 55 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: to the listeners what that means. 56 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 3: So you can put a lot of volatility into when 57 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 3: you when you model in code like this, you can 58 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 3: put a lot of volatility into it, like you can 59 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 3: wait different things in with give it lots of different weights, 60 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 3: so it could you know, like, oh, you know, you know, 61 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 3: what's a good example when you watch some some other 62 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 3: networks have like the the win probability sure, and when 63 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 3: you see a win probability go from ninety nine to 64 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 3: the other team winning more than once in like a 65 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,679 Speaker 3: lot a lot of games, then they're modeling not conservatively enough. 66 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 2: They're a little loose. 67 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 3: They're they're playing fast and loose with their model fast 68 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 3: because it really should. If something really is ninety nine percent. 69 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: Your numbers are tight. 70 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: That's why when we pick all the games and all 71 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: the scores on Game Debut, which is on Apple Network 72 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 1: every Friday, it's very rare for you to have more 73 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: than a ten point game. 74 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: You always have it, you know, pretty close. 75 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: And that makes sense because if you run all the 76 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: outcomes that I said, this is going to be the 77 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: first time this year and I do not like doing this. 78 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: Who were on the other side, but I only had 79 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: two picks that I was definitely taking. My model is 80 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: extremely valatable. It's vibes based. No, it's it's eyeball test based. 81 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: It's how I believe in the teams and the players 82 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: and what I've seen based and that all leads me, 83 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: with no statistical modeling, to picking the Jags plus three 84 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: and a half. Now, your model takes emotion out of 85 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: the equation. Maybe I'm just too happy that the Jags 86 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: gave me an easy Sunday a week ago when I 87 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: took them over the Panthers. You're like, take a more 88 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: interesting game. No, we want winners. I think one of 89 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: us is going to be a winner on this one. 90 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: I think they guarantee one of us wins. 91 00:03:58,520 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 2: That is true. 92 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: It's unfortunate we're guaranteeing a one in one between the 93 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,119 Speaker 1: two of us because I want a spolt to do well. 94 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: I thought they were cohesive in terms of their running game. 95 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: When I watched their offensive line, I thought Oh wow. 96 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: That is a really well coached offensive group who struggled 97 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: last year running the ball and their offensive line struggled, 98 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: and week one you could see it. And then on 99 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: the other side of the ball, I see really good 100 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: pass rushers Josh Heinz, Allen Trayvon Walker, you got arc 101 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: Armstead in the middle. And I see a Bengals offensive 102 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: line that didn't play great last week. The Bengals offense 103 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: in general wasn't great. I'm going to pick this game 104 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: straight up for the Jaguars on game debut where you 105 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: don't have to do that here, but that extra half 106 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: a point, don't you have a like a slang word 107 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: for that. 108 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 2: The hook? The hook? 109 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it hooked me like that extra half a point. 110 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, I'm making this one of my picks 111 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: because I think they can win. 112 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: Straight up. 113 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: I think these two teams are relatively even. I'm taking 114 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: the Jaguars plus three and a half. 115 00:04:55,560 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, well, I mean look here here are I'll 116 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 3: just give you my quick points on why my mole's 117 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 3: on the other side of that number one Jamar Chase 118 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 3: in games when when he's following not having an output 119 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 3: a sub thirty yard output. It's like one hundred and 120 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 3: thirteen yards as his. 121 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 2: Average and the following game. 122 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, the following and not to say and that's not 123 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 3: the reason for it, it's because of what that actually means. 124 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 3: It means they rethink the game plan, they go back 125 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 3: to the drawing board. Plans BCD didn't work. I still 126 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 3: saw something that was great with that Noah offense touchdown 127 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 3: from Joe Brow. It was a blitz. It was on 128 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,679 Speaker 3: a blitz, and Joe Burrow was still incredible against the blitz. 129 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 3: So this is something where they started slow. They always 130 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 3: start slow, we get it, but. 131 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 2: They were trying not to this year. 132 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: It's all they ever talked about in the preseason, all 133 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: this stuff, and then they come out and they add 134 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: one hundred and under one hundred and fifty yards against 135 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: the Browns and saky puppies. 136 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 3: We get it. 137 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's part of that is part of my reasoning. 138 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: And I don't know how much your model is obvious 139 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 1: baking in their historical greatness on offense overall compared to 140 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: just what you saw Week one, or maybe their historic 141 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: struggles early in the year. 142 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 2: I am leaning a little. 143 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: Bit on what I saw by the Jaguars defense, and 144 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,559 Speaker 1: it might end up being misleading because they were playing 145 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: the Panthers, but what I saw out of them was 146 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: a creative group with Anthony Campanile is the new defense coordinator, 147 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: and I just like what I saw Jordan Lewis and 148 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: Tyson Campbell. I think their secondaries not great, but it 149 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: might not be a big negative like it used to 150 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: be in one. 151 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 3: Way to look real stupid with your secondary play Jamar 152 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 3: Chase T. Higgins and company. 153 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 2: That's like this there. 154 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 3: You know, I'm not suggesting that they're not good, but 155 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 3: I think we saw maybe over index of looking very 156 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 3: good last week, and now they're probably gonna I mean. 157 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 2: They're gonna come back to the past. 158 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: All I need is this Jaguars running game, which I 159 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: think is gonna be good against a pretty lackluster Bengals defense. 160 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: In my mind, all I gotta need is just to 161 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: keep keep up in it in a little bit of 162 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: a score fest. So it could be twenty seven to 163 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: twenty fourd you know what, even if the time is win, 164 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: that hook I win. 165 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 2: So we'll see. 166 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 3: I hope it comes down to three, because that's just funny. 167 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 3: If I'm gonna lose, I only want to lose my 168 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 3: third like if it's up, if it's on the hook. 169 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: All right, So that's why we've already knocked that one 170 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: pick each crazy you go, you go for your second pick. 171 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 3: Okay. 172 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: So I'm just trying to decide how spicy to be 173 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: here because I know we had our production meeting for 174 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: our game days. Sure it gives it away our picks 175 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: a little bit, but these are these should be your favorites. 176 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: You don't need to go spicy. Do the ones you're 177 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: the most confident, no matter who they are. 178 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 3: I mean, if I'm going most no, because that's then 179 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 3: I'm picking things. No, no, No, We're gonna We're gonna pick 180 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 3: somes that I like the most. How about that? 181 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 2: Sure? 182 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: I think New England wins interesting beats Miami interest. So 183 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 3: if you're gonna want to give me a point and 184 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 3: a half, I will take that point and a half 185 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: because Miami favorite at home by one and a half point. 186 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 3: New England. Listen, I picked them last week. They burned me. 187 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 3: But so weird things happened. One Drake may took conservatively. 188 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 3: I think he threw the ball like three hundred and 189 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 3: fifty five times Twitter seven passing yards. He had the 190 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 3: most passing attempts that he that we've seen him have. 191 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 3: We didn't see him us as like seven seven rushing 192 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 3: yards seven rushing yards. So maybe maybe the theme is 193 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 3: seven because the Bengals had seven yards of offense and 194 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 3: the second happen, I'm making them and Drake May had 195 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 3: seven rushing yards in this last matchup. But this is 196 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 3: something where yards off of scrambles are something where Drake May, 197 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 3: you know, between I think it was week week eight 198 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 3: and or we eight and eighteen or me, he literally 199 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 3: led the league in scrambling yards whenever he whence he 200 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 3: became the starter last year? So I think we used 201 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 3: number one that number two the swing pass to Traveon Henderson. 202 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 3: What does Josh McDaniels love to do? Swing pass, swing pass, swing? 203 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 3: But that's all we ever see. Why didn't we see 204 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 3: those last week? I don't know Travan Hunderson can catch 205 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 3: the ball. I think they figure out a way to 206 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 3: make the run game, even if it's a run by 207 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 3: proxy of short passes, fine, still short yardage game. I 208 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 3: think it's gonna be much approved. 209 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: Look, I'm on your side with this one, and it 210 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna be one of my picks just because. 211 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 3: These are on my side. 212 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 2: Team. 213 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's winning. 214 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 2: I mean I have New England winning. 215 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean it's great news. 216 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 2: I mean this is great news. Is it really? 217 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: I went on into last week with the other if 218 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 1: you count the extras, you know, is it? 219 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 3: He did great? 220 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 2: Five? I think it's so. Their running game really struggled 221 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 2: last week. 222 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: I think that was part of the reason why Drake 223 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: May just looked a little jumpy uneven. 224 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 2: I don't know if it was due May. 225 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 3: Watch that Daniel Jones Daniel Jones fotash like two rushing 226 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 3: touchdowns for Daniel Jones, I can at least score one. 227 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: I think he could. And that Dolphins defense has a 228 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: lot of talent in it. There's a lot going on 229 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: with this Dolphins team. My issue only with this game 230 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: was just these two teams. I don't know what to 231 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: make of them early, and so I'm just gonna stay anyway. 232 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 2: I believe though, in a different team in that division, 233 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 2: the Jets. 234 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 3: The Jets, you think they win, I mean, they just 235 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 3: keep it closer. 236 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: Than what they are. They are underdogs. That's six and 237 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: a half points, six and. 238 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 2: A half points. 239 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: I believe, justin fields looked so good last week. He 240 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: was calm, he was accurate, he was composed, and their 241 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 1: running game was destroying the Pittsburgh freaking Steelers like pre 242 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: Saul eighteen yards, pre Saul fourteen yards. 243 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 2: I love them up front. What did the Bills do 244 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 2: last week? 245 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: I know they were playing the Baltimore Ravens, but they 246 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: gave up two hundred and thirty eight yards on the ground. 247 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 1: Many I think they were They've been searching on defense 248 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: throughout training camp and the preseason for players in the 249 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,559 Speaker 1: back end, especially that can hold up in terms of 250 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 1: the safety position and tougher players in terms of stopping 251 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: the run. If I could pick almost any other team 252 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: in the AFC, they wouldn't want to see this week. 253 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 1: It's the running and maybe even a little gunning New 254 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: York Jets. Now, yes, I am taking them to win 255 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: this game, which is a desperate pick in week two. 256 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: I'm already like trying to chase you on the picks. 257 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 2: I don't know why. 258 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: I know they're almost a touchdown underdog that you could do, 259 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: you know, with the odds and whatnot. Take them to 260 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: win over on you know, straight up. But I feel 261 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: really good this this show is only about the number 262 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 1: six and a half points for this Jets team. I'm 263 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: not overly confident in the Jets defense at all. I 264 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a high scoring game where where 265 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: both running games get a lot done. 266 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 2: I think the Jets keep it close. 267 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 3: James Cook is streaking, right, He's had five games in 268 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 3: a row with a rushing touch out. No, I'm just 269 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 3: curious if you think he gets an ansome Yeah, yeah, 270 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 3: I think he keeps said streaking. 271 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: Their offensive line is awesome, and you talked about that 272 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: last week a lot with the Tiris, Torrents and the continuity. 273 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's underrated. 274 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: Because people are like, you know, Josh Allen's making it 275 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 1: happen with this ragtag group around him. In terms of 276 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: the receiver, first of all, again Coleman's a first round pick, 277 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: like early second like he's getting better. 278 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 2: Clear secure is good. 279 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 3: I mean nine of them each. They had nine targets 280 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 3: all three of their main wide receivers, nine tarists. 281 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, I would point out like that offensive line 282 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: is a weapon, and if so, it's kind of like 283 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: Mahomes three years ago, in that first year without Tyreek Hill. 284 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: You give a quarterback at the peak of his powers, 285 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: a great offensive line. You don't necessarily need incredible weapons, 286 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: and that's why Jets to win the game doesn't feel 287 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: like amazing. But I think the Steelers were very lucky 288 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: to win that game last week. I think the Jets 289 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: have something a little special and they're going to be 290 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: fighting hard to avoid that zero and two start to 291 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: this season. 292 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 2: So I believe in my New York Jets. I've adopted them. 293 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 3: Adopted them. 294 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I had them going to the playoffs as 295 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: my seventh seed. This is something the model wouldn't do, 296 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: which is get too attached to your preseason. 297 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, you think that's that's the thing, like sometimes, I mean, listen, 298 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 3: attachment is a big deal. But and it's fun. It's 299 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 3: why we become fans. But you have to be able 300 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 3: to separate your picks from your attachment. Otherwise, you know, 301 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 3: we're gonna have to take all your little chips and 302 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 3: pull them off. 303 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, but if you but just look at the 304 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 2: numbers from a week ago. 305 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 3: I'm not saying the Jets aren't great, but I'm saying 306 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 3: you can't overly you know, you have to, like, let 307 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 3: next play, every every player will tell you whether it's 308 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 3: good or yeah, you can't use let you know, you 309 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 3: just got to be it's gotta be, you know, disciplined, 310 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 3: the discipline of of of chill. 311 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: The Jets what they put on the field last week 312 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: as a product to me, that looked like a seven 313 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: seed type of team for what it's worth. And this 314 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: is just the numbers d v O A. You know, 315 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: I think you respect dv o A. But maybe it's 316 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: I you know, I'm not. It's a rivalry a little 317 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: bit there in the numbers game, trying to argue they 318 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: got the Gets as the tenth best team after last 319 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: week and the Bills were down in the twenties. 320 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 3: Example, Sea, it's I like, I like your conviction. I'm 321 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 3: not saying not to be a fan. I'm just saying 322 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 3: to separate is fan time from this is math t Yeah, 323 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 3: that's it. That's all that. I have to say that 324 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 3: to myself too. I have to code this stuff without 325 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 3: any names on it, because teams that pay me money, 326 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 3: like the freaking Broncos in the preseas, I tend to 327 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 3: like them better. 328 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 2: Right now we're getting the real stuff. 329 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 3: But I love this, But but I have to do 330 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 3: it with things I feel very agnostic towards That's how 331 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 3: I code it. So I don't know if this year 332 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 3: because I'm a psychopath, it's different types of dogs, huh so, 333 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 3: And I do have thoughts on that, but I'm not 334 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 3: you know, the Yorky beating that whatever, you know, the 335 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 3: German Shepherd. I'm going to take the German Shepherd. 336 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: And I do think and you'll see this with my 337 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: next pick too, well you want mind pick yet I do. 338 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: I do think there is something about the you know, 339 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: the team's trying to avoid be you know, and one 340 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: the bills are coming off like a historic, amazing win 341 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: at home. 342 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 2: Is there is there any little not trap? 343 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: But just is that like I did a little more emotional, 344 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: you know, like it's a little bit of a letdown. 345 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: All right, give me your last pick. 346 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 3: All right, Well we talked about how I get emotional 347 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 3: about teams. There's these two teams that have actually emotions 348 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 3: on both sides that I like. I love the Broncos 349 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 3: luet Arumo is one of my very favorite humans. Like ever, 350 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 3: so they're playing. 351 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: Each other like how high on the list? I mean, 352 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: that's a lot humanity. I mean I don't really like 353 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: a lot of so pop thirty. 354 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 2: Oh for clue. Oh wow, yeah, so he's above me. 355 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 3: No, he's not above you. 356 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: I would like to see that ranking because you know, 357 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: thirty thirties, that's that's pretty lofty praise. 358 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 2: All right, but what does that mean you're picking him? 359 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 3: No, picking the Broncos. It's two and a half points. 360 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 3: The reason, just like you talked about, it's the two 361 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 3: and a half to me Bnicks four turnovers. Now you're 362 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 3: talking about Sean Payton. What does Sean Payton? What do 363 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 3: you think happened to bo Nicks after turning the ball 364 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 3: over that many times last game? I'm gonna guess it 365 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 3: wasn't pretty. 366 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 2: It just started running the ball essentially, you mean in 367 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 2: the game. 368 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 3: Or like when they were watching it back on the Like. 369 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 3: My point is is there's a reason why some of 370 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 3: these Hall of Fame court coaches keep their jobs for 371 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 3: so long. It's because they don't like these are the 372 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 3: types of things like this crap doesn't happen again, Like 373 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 3: it doesn't now. Mostly the reason I'm picking them is 374 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 3: because the Denver Bronco defense is the best unit in 375 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 3: this game, and it's not close. And the second reason, 376 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 3: Sharvarius war it is very unlikely to play, which helps 377 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 3: Bonick's ability. 378 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 2: To not turn the ball, and that's entered into the model. 379 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 3: No ward at this point injuries. Right now it's ward 380 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 3: fifty percent because I don't know if he's going to 381 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 3: play or not. I can switch it closer to the time. 382 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 3: But even with a ward one hundred percent, it's still 383 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 3: three points in favor of the Broncos. 384 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: I would put word at close to zero percent at 385 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: this point because if you miss practice early in the 386 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: I'm just saying you're in the protocol, so that's even 387 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: more in your favor. Yeah, I'm with you on this one. 388 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: I struggled with it. The heart of it all. Likes 389 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: the cult story. 390 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 3: I think they're of course you felt like the cold 391 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 3: story too. 392 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: I think the defense is going to be difficult for 393 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: teams to go against if you're much improved. But ultimately 394 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: I agreed with every single point that you made, so 395 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: I just won't repeat it. But that defense, yeah, we'll 396 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: see it. We'll see how real the Danny Dimes renaissance is. Okay, 397 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: So I wrote down sometimes I got a lot of 398 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: games I really like. Yep, sometimes I just have four 399 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: that was this week. So I gave you my top two. 400 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 3: Four is the minimum? 401 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, well no, I don't know. Three. No, some weeks 402 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 2: it's like two, and you're really forcing it. This time. 403 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: I have really four I really liked, and then there 404 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 1: was a pretty big yep gap. There's like one more 405 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: I'll throw in there. But so maybe you can help 406 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: me because I'm curious which side of either the Falcons 407 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: plus three and a half or the Seahawks plus three 408 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: year on. And you might be opposite me on both 409 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 1: of these, but I like them both for different reasons. 410 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 2: I'm leaning towards the Falcons one. Actually I have both 411 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 2: of those. Yeah, you agree with me? 412 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:41,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, So the one I would technically agree with you, 413 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:42,959 Speaker 3: like looking at my model right now. The one I 414 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 3: technically agree with you more on is what is it? 415 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 3: Minnesota is at three and a half. I have Minnesota 416 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 3: winning by three, so I close if that's a hook there, 417 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 3: But then I have a two point win in favor 418 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 3: of Pittsburgh only, so I technically agree with you a 419 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 3: little bit more on Seattle very close though extremely I mean, 420 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 3: we're this is tricky. 421 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: Because I'm gonna go with my gut and go with 422 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: that extra half point. The hook is getting me again, 423 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 1: and go with the Falcons plus three and a half 424 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: as my official third pick. I like both these games, 425 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: though for different reasons. I'll run through them both because 426 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: that would have been one of my written down. 427 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 3: Yeah A to the extra game, which means it's going. 428 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 2: To hit okay. 429 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 1: I think their quarterback is better right now Atlanta. You 430 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: know Michael Pennox versus JJ McCarthy. I just think he's 431 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: more mature. He's showed more. We'll see where McCarthy is. 432 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: I think the Atlanta secondary showed me a little something 433 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: in Week one that I'm excited about. 434 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 2: A couple of rookies, Billy Bowman and Xavier Watts. 435 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: Xavier Watts really played well in that game, and I 436 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: thought aj Rell was kind of looking peak aj Terrell. 437 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: He's a guy who had an all Pro season, but 438 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: he's had injuries. He struggled a little bit last week. 439 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: I thought he looked awesome against the Bucks. 440 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 2: He did. 441 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: That was a game where if you play that game 442 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: over the way it played out, like the numbers would 443 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 1: tell you that the Falcons really outplayed the Bucks. But 444 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: they ended up losing that game. And then this is 445 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: the dumb part of me why I'm leaning towards it. 446 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: I do sometimes look at the two teams and just think, well, 447 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: they look like one to one teams to me. You know, 448 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: neither one of these teams deserve to be zero and two. 449 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: Neither one of these teams deserve to be two and oh. 450 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: And we see this a lot in the NFL, that 451 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: a lot of times teams respond well to losses. And 452 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: so three and a half points is what does it 453 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 1: for me. I don't really feel strong about the Falcons 454 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: winning in particular, but I like that three and a 455 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: half points based on everything I saw Raheem Morris year 456 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: two with his defense they cover. 457 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm. 458 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 3: With you on that. My my asterisks on this one 459 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 3: that just like the little note that could adjust it, 460 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 3: but would adjust more in favor of Atlanta is if 461 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 3: we see the health of like a Is Darnell movie. 462 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: He sounds like he's playing right, he's practicing. We don't 463 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: know for sure, but that's you know, it's a good one. Again, 464 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: that's just an asterisk, but it just reinforces your point. 465 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: And no Blake Cashman for the Vikings, that is confirmed. 466 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: He's on in deserve and I think that could be 467 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: a problematic spot for them. It's like I've in pace 468 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: and you could attack the middle of the field there. 469 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts look pretty good. Seattle to me is more 470 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: of a I just think they match up well. I 471 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: think all those zone runs that Jets had against the 472 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: Steelers last week, the Seahawks can do that. I think 473 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,959 Speaker 1: the pass rush against Aaron Rodgers, who did a lot 474 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: of really good things last week, but he didn't handle 475 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: the pass rush well at all. He took four sacks 476 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 1: and and kind of was panicked when he was under pressure. 477 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: I think they could get pressed by right. So three points. 478 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: I really liked that game too. Like I said, I 479 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: liked for a lot this week. But I will go 480 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: with Atlanta officially as my as my third in the 481 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: Seattle plus three as my little extra. And uh, just 482 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: because I'm feeling generous to the listeners, Brown's eleven and 483 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: a half, I'll take. I'll take the Browns to cover 484 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: that eleven and a half. I'm feeling a little spicy. 485 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 3: I thought they like Joe Flecko. 486 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you're going to try to bring the Browns 487 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: in the organization you ripped away from, like one of 488 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: the best football towns in the world, and you do 489 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: your thirtieth anniversary of the franchise celebration with everyone coming 490 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: in on the day the Browns come into town. I mean, 491 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: that's certainly intentional. And I see you and I think 492 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: that's bad football. God juju. I mean it's definitely something 493 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: like a model can account for that. 494 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 3: No, the model doesn't know what that means. But but ultimately, 495 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 3: I mean I didn't realize they were doing that. Yeah, 496 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 3: it's it's who's in charge over there. 497 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a rivalry. But that's honestly part of 498 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: the reason why I like the Browns in this game. 499 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: I thought their rookies looked great last week, and I 500 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: just think they're going to be a little better this season. 501 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: And it's a divisional matchup where there's a lot of 502 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: familiarity and so. 503 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 2: Hey, it's a lot weak. 504 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 3: They were in a half Allens and and the Ravens 505 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 3: have had vulnerability to twelve personnel to who tied in sets. 506 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 3: So there are there are reasons to support your findings. 507 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 1: Little Harold fan and junior action. And yeah, I also 508 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:55,719 Speaker 1: his name is Harold. 509 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 3: I love that. I don't know why. I don't know 510 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 3: anyone named Harold, But I like, I love the idea 511 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 3: that his name is Harry. 512 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 1: I love that he's a forty four playing tight end 513 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: and full back. There aren't many true like they call 514 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: people jokers, Like he's a real joker. He's moving in 515 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,199 Speaker 1: every position. I saw him blow open a hole on 516 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: a touchdown run on the goal and that was cool. 517 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: That was why he was one of my winners on 518 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: the Extra Picks last week plus five and a half. 519 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: All right, that's enough, we got to get down for 520 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: our show game debut. You can check out Cynthia on 521 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 1: her YouTube page numbers game each and every week if 522 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: you want even more picks from Cynthia really getting deep 523 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 1: into the numbers every single game. And she's got a 524 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: new show too with CBS analyst Logan Ryan. 525 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 2: So everyone Logan's great. 526 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 1: Check out that Logan is really really good on the broadcast. 527 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: I listen and with you that is it. We will 528 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: hopefully do even better for all. 529 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 530 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: Well, this week it'll be the last time to hear 531 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 1: from us in the feed until Sunday. 532 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 2: Night when we are back a recap show is. 533 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 3: The buildings here now? 534 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 2: No, I will be staying until Sunday night. 535 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: Got it? For all those games, we Jordan, rod rig 536 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: Patrick Clayborne and nixt Ship see you Sunday night.