1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you should know, a production of My 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: Heart Radios How Stuff Works. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. 3 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: I'm Josh Clark, and there's Charles w Chuck, Brian, there's 4 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: Jerry over there, and we're just bouncing around with giddiness 5 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: about this episode on trampolines. That's all that coming from 6 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 1: a mile away. You did not. I knew there would 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: be some jumpy, bouncy metaphor. Well, you know me very 8 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: well after these eleven years eleven years, good, you didn't 9 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: disappoint good. I don't like disappointing you, Chuck. It feels 10 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: really rotten. Yeah, especially since I'm wearing a T shirt 11 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: that says You've disappointed me again, Josh. And it's got 12 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 1: that pointing finger right at me. Oh my, Josh. Yet 13 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: actually is three dimensional. It comes out of the shirt 14 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 1: just so you know I'm pointing at you. I can 15 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: see it. It's like a magic Guy poster. Oh goodness. 16 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: So speaking of goodness, Chuck, we're talking about trampolines. But 17 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: it's funny that I would say goodness, because it turns 18 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: out trampolines have a lot of badness to them. Yeah, 19 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: they're danger pits. Yeah, they are big time pits. If 20 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: it's one of those built into the ground things. Yeah, 21 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: trampoline in a pit. Have you ever been on a trampoline? Sure? 22 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: I had one in in high school. Really you owned one. 23 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: It was inherited from the people who previously owned the house. 24 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: That old move and they took they took maybe half 25 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,279 Speaker 1: of the springs with them when they moved, apparently because 26 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: you could make contact with the ground pretty easy on 27 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: that one. And um and actually, if you go onto 28 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: my Instagram josh um Clark, you can see a little 29 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: photo spread of me bouncing around a trampoline park, totally 30 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: oblivious to the amount of danger. I was actually in 31 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: what what do you mean? What I mean I got 32 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: to look that up. I didn't know that existed. I 33 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: talked to you about my Instagram account like every every 34 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: couple of days. Well, I mean pictures of the trampoline 35 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: A and B. I'm not on Instagram at all, so 36 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: I gotta like, you know what you have to what? Well, 37 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, how do you find something 38 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: on Instagram if you're not on Instagram? Can you? I 39 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: think you have to go? You gotta know you can? 40 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: You can? You can just Google it, I believe. I'll 41 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: show you later. I'll show you after this, but anyway, 42 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: it's pretty great. You're gonna love it. But there was 43 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: one point in time where I landed flat and this 44 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 1: is in the photos, flat on the back of my head, 45 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: upside down and there was a crack and everything, and 46 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, that was crazy. But after researching 47 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: this chuck, I was like, I can't wait to die 48 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: and go to heaven. There is such a thing in 49 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: a place. Um so I can be like, I've got 50 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: to know how close was I to full body paralysis 51 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: that one time at that trampoline park. And I guarantee 52 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: when they tell me, I'm gonna shut her with just 53 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: um uh, I don't know, some sort of proximity fear maybe, 54 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: I don't know what else you would call that kind 55 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: of thing. Or what if they say, uh, here, I'm 56 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: going to issue a ticket number and you're gonna have 57 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: to go down that wing where they handle near death experiences. 58 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: That's fine, I'd go. I go spend the time. It's eternity. 59 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 1: After all, I've got time to kill. It feels like 60 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: it would be very bureaucratic. I could see that. Sure. 61 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: A lot of pencil pushing. I haven't you know I 62 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: had trampoline experience. In My only trampoline experience really was 63 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: elementary school. Uh when we had a you know how 64 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: an elementary school, at least at mine, they would have um, 65 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, you do like one sport for a 66 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: month or something. Yeah, we did trampolines for a little while. 67 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: And our our gym teacher was a legit um gymnast 68 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: of some kind, and he could do all the things. 69 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: And we and we had the uh nineteen eighties you 70 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: know rectangular Uh, they weren't even the mats, as we'll learn. 71 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: We'll learn all about the trampoline a minute. But the 72 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: little bouncy part you bounce on it was not solid. 73 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: It was like a a checkerboard. I don't understand. Well, 74 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: it wasn't a solid piece of of fabric. It was invisible. 75 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: It was a weave, okay, but I mean like a 76 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: little tiny with with little squares in between, so like 77 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: a net. Yeah. I have never seen what you're describing. Wow, 78 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: but tokud go through it. So Chuck, let me ask 79 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: you this thing. When did you in that when you 80 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: would rotate out for new things like every month, did 81 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: you guys ever do the thing where like everybody, you'd 82 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: have a parachute and everybody would pull and lift the 83 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: parachute up at once, and it would be somebody's turn 84 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: to run underneath, and you had to make it to 85 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: the other side before the parachute covered you. I remember 86 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: that sort of yes, okay, Now, had your gym teacher 87 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: done the opposite of that, where you put somebody in 88 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: the middle of the parachute on top and everybody pulls 89 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: it taught so that the person has launched in the air. 90 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: The Lebowski. Yes, yeah, the Lebowski. You would have been 91 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: doing what is one of the only things that somebody 92 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: can point to as a predecessor to the trampoline, because 93 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: it is almost virtually its own invention. Yeah, I love 94 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: I love how you brought that around. Thank you. Um 95 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: the Grabster wrote this for us, and he he does 96 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: make a point that even before that, people just liked 97 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 1: anything that could bounce on. It's just sort of, uh, 98 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: it seems intuitive as a human that that's fun and thrilling. 99 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: Whether it's like, hey, this this log that fell across 100 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 1: the creek has some spring to it and that's fun, 101 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: what you know? Sure, or this board that spans an opening. 102 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: What was the opening called in that horror story? Have 103 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: you lost your mind? I remember the horror Halloween horror 104 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: thing that we did with the creek in the what 105 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: was that called? I don't oh, oh remember there was 106 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: a word and you looked it up. Yeah, and it 107 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: was a specific place anyway on the board spanning that 108 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: you're talking about bridges, we're talking about trampolines today you 109 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: realize we're talking trampoline like hallucinating. So it's coming through 110 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: loud and clear, buddy. UM. So so there's the the 111 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: cloth or fabric that you could launch somebody up in 112 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: the air. There was the log apparently that people jumped on. UM. 113 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: But there was this kind of people figured out that 114 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: it was kind of fun to get up into the air. 115 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: And I saw it was one of those things. You know, 116 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: we're always warning people when they ask us how to 117 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: research that. If you see the same thing everywhere on 118 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: the internet, it's probably wrong. I saw that about how 119 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: there was there's UM in China, Iran and Egypt. There's 120 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: depictions of people using trampoline like devices. Didn't see anything 121 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 1: beyond that, so it's probably made up. But UM we 122 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: can point to when the trampoline was vented, and it 123 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: was actually fairly recent like what we think of the 124 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: tram plane came about, and I think like the nineteen thirties, 125 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: over the period of a few years. Yeah, Now, are 126 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: we gonna tell people what a trampoline is? First? Are 127 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: we going to talk about the history and then tell people? No, 128 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: I'm glad you did this, Chuck, because yes, not only 129 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: do we have what a trampoline is. I got a 130 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: little a little bit of physics to to throw into 131 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: I had a feeling. Okay, so a trampoline. If you've 132 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: never driven out into rural Georgia, um, that's where I 133 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: see them. Yeah, the people in the rural areas like 134 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: the trampolines. There's not a lot to do out that's 135 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: the deal. I was kind of wondering, like why do 136 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: I see those when I drive out to you know, 137 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: the country, But I don't see him as much in 138 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: urban areas, and I think of space A and B. 139 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: It's just a very cheap way to be like here 140 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: you go, kids, knock yourself out for the next ten 141 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: years literally literally. Alright, So, trampoline is a frame, uh 142 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: that has a bouncy surface in the middle of it. 143 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: The frame is a very rigid usually steal frame um 144 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: and then the matt as it's called, is held together 145 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: with these tight coiled springs are not held together but 146 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: strapped to the frame. And it's not you know, it's 147 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: those springs is where you get the bounce. It's it's 148 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: not the actual material, although that could have a little 149 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: bounce to it. It's got a little give because it's woven. 150 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: It's like it's like a seatbelt. Yeah, so super tightly 151 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: woven that that um fabric. That matt is right, and 152 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: that's the larger trampolines. They do have the little smaller 153 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 1: like I guess people used to use them to exercise 154 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Did you not have one of those? Now? 155 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: We never had one of those. I think I had 156 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: to do with jazz or size maybe or something. So 157 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: I've seen those more often at like NBA games when 158 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: they bring the guys out in between the time outs 159 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: or whatever and they do the high flying dunks. Yeah, 160 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: those are awesome to see. Do you like those? I 161 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: love watching this shot. I never get up during halftime 162 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: because of that. Yeah, all right, I'm strapped to my 163 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: seat you know what they should do to me, in 164 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: my opinion, at every sports game ever during the halftime, 165 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: the only thing they should do is have the little 166 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: league teams play. Oh that gets you, huh. It's just 167 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 1: the cutest thing ever. Like, I don't need to see 168 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: a dance routine or some corny anything. But whenever they 169 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: have like the five year olds out there playing basketball 170 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,559 Speaker 1: in the big court or football, that's that's all I need. 171 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: What about the guy who's who climbs an increasingly high 172 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,719 Speaker 1: stack of chairs. I like that guy a lot. It's 173 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: not bad spinning a plate. No, no, he just sometimes 174 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: he'll do handstands on the top. It's really thrilling. You 175 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: need you need to watch more halftime shows. But um, okay, 176 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: So so that's basically what you described as a trampoline. 177 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: That's a trampoline. There's like variations to it, for sure, 178 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: there's competition trampoline's they tend to be rectangular. Um. They 179 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: actually have specific dimensions because their competitions, so they have 180 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 1: to all kind of have like a universal size, but 181 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: usually something like ten feet by seventeen feet um. I 182 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 1: think the ones that they use in college are a 183 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: little smaller, but not too much. Um, did you watch 184 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: any of that stuff? Yeah, it's and it's it's entrancing. Yeah, 185 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: it's kind of cool because it's it's in It's not 186 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: slow motion when you're the one doing the bouncing, but 187 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: when you're watching it from afar, because the mind kind 188 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: of makes the point from when you bounce to when 189 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: you next bounce again is kind of like one complete cycle. 190 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: It it does kind of take a second, so it 191 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 1: does kind of seem like the whole thing is happening 192 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: in slow motion to the mind. Is very Maybe that's 193 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: why I'm tired. I think it is because you're lulled 194 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 1: to sleep by trampoline watching. So yeah, the rectangular ones 195 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: are the competition, but when you go out to the 196 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: country is when you'll see the round ones, the octagonal ones, 197 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 1: and the hexagonal ones. Yeah, and the ones that you 198 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: see like that people have bought for their home use, 199 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: they're very frequently they're going to have um nets around 200 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: the sides so that if you start to go off 201 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: the side of the trampoline, the net catches you and 202 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 1: throws you back into the center the mat of the trampoline, 203 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: which we did not have when we were children. No, 204 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: we did not. It was it was your off. It 205 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: was it's called thinking the herd I think was the 206 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: model I had the herd thinner. Yeah. In fact, they 207 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 1: even had a landmoat full of nails and sharp glass 208 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: surrounding the trampoline. That's right, And Armadilla is with leprosy um. 209 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: But the ones in competition they don't have nets. And 210 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: there's a really good reason why. Not because they're they're 211 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: they're devils and thrill seekers, but because the people in 212 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: competitions tend to jump so high that the nets wouldn't 213 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 1: do any good. They just go right over the side 214 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: unless they had super tall nets. I guess so. But 215 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: I mean, once you get into nets that are too tall, 216 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: it becomes kind of cost prohibitive, you know. Yeah, Plus 217 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: it looks it ended up looking like one of those 218 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: uh indoor skydide tubes, right, which we've done. That was fun. 219 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: It was kind of fun. And that that footage is 220 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: lost forever. I can't find it anyway. Oh thank god. 221 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: Oh I like that one. It wasn't me or you 222 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: that got thrown against the side at the end. It 223 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: was me. For those of you that don't know we're 224 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: talking about, we did some Toyota commercials years ago. It 225 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: was funny. We were much more marketable early on than 226 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: we are now. Yeah, but yeah, they flew us out 227 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: to California and we did Toyota commercial and as we 228 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:32,319 Speaker 1: were both indoor skydiving, and it was pretty interesting and fun. Yeah. 229 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: I think my line was, you're just telling me that now, 230 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 1: and then I lose control and bump into the side 231 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 1: of the wall. That's it's harder than it looks. You 232 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: don't just you know, it's very taxing on the muscles, 233 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: really is. It was fun though, too. I had a 234 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: good time. Should we take a break? Uh no, no, no, 235 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: because we're not We're not done with this part yet. Okay, Okay, 236 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: you're ready, Yes, we're We're getting there, Chuck, we're gonna 237 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: By the way, I should probably explain to everybody, Chuck 238 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: thinks that this is going to be like the The 239 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: jackhammera episode which he and I agree is our worst 240 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: episode ever. I think that that's patently wrong, So let's 241 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 1: prove him wrong, everybody. Okay, So, um, there's one other 242 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,439 Speaker 1: thing I wanted to talk about before we go to 243 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: break chalk, aside from where the trampoline is, which I 244 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: feel like we've done a pretty good job of defining 245 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: it to this point, right. The physics of a trampoline 246 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: are actually pretty fascinating because if you look at the 247 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: outside of the trampoline, it's like you said, that matt, 248 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: that fabric that you actually jump on has a little 249 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: bit of give, But where the trampoline gets the most 250 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: give is from those springs that are attaching the fabric 251 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: matt to the frame. Correct. Okay, So what that means 252 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 1: then is because there's all these springs working together, the 253 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: trampoline itself is actually, physics wise, a giant spring. And 254 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: the reason why when you jump on a trampoline it 255 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,719 Speaker 1: shoots you back up into the air is because you're 256 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: combining two kinds of energy. Kinetic energy, which is the movement, 257 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: the energy from you jumping up and down on something, 258 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: and then there's also potential elastic potential energy, which is 259 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: the stored energy those springs have when they're extended and 260 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: they want to go back to their normal shape. And 261 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: so as all of this energy gets stretched out and 262 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: then goes back to its normal tension, uh, it directs 263 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: all that stored energy and that energy that's turned into 264 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: actual energy towards the center, which is where you happen 265 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: to be, and it launches you back up into the 266 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: air somewhere. Tracy Wilson is smiling right exactly. One more 267 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: thing mouth parts. So, uh, I think now we can 268 00:14:39,840 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: take a break, don't you. Yes, Okay, So all right, Chuck, 269 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: we're back, and I think it's time to talk a 270 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: little history of trampoline. Yeah. So earlier you t s 271 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: that this was sort of, um an invention of its own, 272 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: like there was no predecessor really to the trampoline, aside 273 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: from Inuit people tossing people up in the air Lebowski style. 274 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: Uh So the credit for the trampoline is is roundly. 275 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: I don't think there's anyone that disputes us, right, No, No, 276 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: it's it's George Nisson, for sure. Yeah. George Nisson and 277 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: a man named Larry Clark Griswold, right, um, And and 278 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: we'll we'll get to their story and how Larry figured in. 279 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: But it was really George Nisson's brain child, um, between 280 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: nineteen thirty and nineteen thirty six. Like you said earlier, 281 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: it took a little while to get it just right. 282 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: But when George was a little boy in nineteen thirty. 283 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: He was sixteen, I guess, medium sized boy, and he 284 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: was watching the trapeze artist and you know how they 285 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: have that net and they leap off the trapeze at 286 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: the end and they do a flourish and they land 287 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: on the net, and then they usually do a couple 288 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: of little flips and then land on the net again 289 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: and then that cool move where they hold onto the 290 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,239 Speaker 1: net and flip out and land on their feet very gracefully. 291 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: Right right. Little George saw this and was like, everyone's 292 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: wild about this trappeeze. He's like, the best part is 293 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: that end when they get on that net. I should 294 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: make one of those. Yeah. He wanted one where you 295 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: didn't just bounce once basically get one bounce, but that 296 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: you could just keep bouncing and bouncing and bouncing. And 297 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: he's like, I'm going to go home and make something 298 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: like this because he was a he was a gymnast 299 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: at the time already. Yeah, that makes a lot more 300 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: sense once you know that. I think exactly, he was 301 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: a gymnast who went to circus performances and then was 302 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: inspired by that net, and so he actually went home 303 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: got I guess spare metal parts from like a junkyard 304 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: from what I can tell, got his hands on a 305 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: canvas mat and fixed the two things together, and um, 306 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: he broke his ankles. Basically, it did not work very 307 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 1: well at first. I mean, it had some bounce to it. 308 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: It was as far as like an early proof of 309 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: concept goes. It worked in that respect, but that was 310 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: about it. And he called it a bouncing rig and 311 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 1: he put it down in his parents basement, I believe, 312 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: and then went off to the University of Iowa to 313 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: study business and joined the gymnastics team. And joining the 314 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: gymnastics team at the University of Iowa turned out to 315 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: be pretty faithful because it was there that he met 316 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: who the man who would become his co inventor in 317 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: the trampoline, Larry Griswold. Yeah, I wonder if he if 318 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: leaving that trampoline prototype and his parents basement was it 319 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 1: had to be the first instance of what would be 320 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of many trampolines left in their parents basements. Yeah, apparently, 321 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: um uh. George Nisson's dad was not all that happy 322 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: about the trampoline. He was not a true lever as 323 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: far as the trampoline was concerned, all right, so he 324 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: goes to school, Like you said, he met coach Larry Griswold. Uh, 325 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 1: we call him Clark around here, and I guess he 326 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: thought this was a good idea. He shared it with 327 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: his coach and he's like, you know what, I'm a 328 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: little older, have a little more experience. Why don't you 329 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: let me help you with this thing? And they built 330 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: a different prototype. This time. They had a nylon matt. 331 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: They used groments, which obviously made a little sturdier, and 332 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: the springs they subbed in bicycle inner tubes. Yeah, because 333 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: I'm not even sure that he used springs. He just 334 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 1: somehow attached the canvas to the frame. So when they 335 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: added bicycle tubes, that gave it way more give and 336 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: and it worked a lot better. And they knew that 337 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: they were onto something just with this they I'm sure 338 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: they knew that could be improved, but they this was 339 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: a pretty good first start that they worked on at 340 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: the University of Iowa. Yeah, so between then and I 341 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: guess nineteen thirty seven, Um, they introduced the steel coils 342 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: in nineteen thirty four, and they really had the trampoline 343 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: going at this point. Um, although it was not called 344 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: the trampoline until uh Nissen in nineteen thirty seven, traveled 345 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 1: all over North America performing routines under the name with 346 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: two of his friends under the name the Three Leonardo's, 347 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: which is very ninety seven thing to do. Uh. And 348 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: they went to Mexico and they learned that there was 349 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: a a name, a Spanish name for this bouncing rib 350 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: rig like the springboard called a trampoline or I guess 351 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: lean without the E on the end. And he said, Hey, 352 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna add an E on the end trademark 353 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: that thing. And uh, I've appropriated something from another culture. 354 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: I read I read on educator pages dot com that 355 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: he while down in Mexico he learned the Mexican word 356 00:19:53,760 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: for springboard was trampoline. Yeah, the Mexican word. Oh, that's 357 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: what they said on educator pages dot com. I was 358 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: just disappointed enough that I wanted to point it out. Well, 359 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: I mean, sure, there are Mexican specific words, this is 360 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: not one of them. Okay, this is the Spanish word. 361 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: I got you. I was just trying to make that clear. So, 362 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: um so, George, this is like, this is great. I've 363 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: been calling this thing a bouncing rig, but this tramplin 364 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 1: word is way better. I'm going to call this a trampoline, 365 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: like Chuck said, and um in trade market. And that 366 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: was a huge, huge improvement for this thing because they 367 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 1: had something. By this time, they had a really great 368 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: invention going. But now they had a name and kind 369 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: of a catchy name and one that even made sense 370 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: as well. A springboard, by the way, is one of 371 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: those you know those little um things you jump on 372 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: to get onto the pole or the pommel horse. Yeah, 373 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: that's a springboard, yeah, or or what's it called the vault? 374 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: Is that what they used for the vault? Yes? Right, yeah, 375 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: So this is kind of what what inspired him to 376 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: say that is somewhat tied to this is a great name. 377 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: I'll probably never sell one of these in Mexico. I'm 378 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: just gonna take it and like you said, appropriate it. 379 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: So now he had a great invention, he had a name, 380 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: and he and griz Wald founded the griz Waldniss And 381 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 1: Trampoline and Tumbling Company UM in nine two and started 382 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: selling these things, not exactly like hot cakes at first. 383 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: I believe they sold ten in their first year, and 384 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: George Nisson's dad suggested that they had satisfied the world's 385 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: need for trampolines by this time. In the first ten 386 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: I'm telling you he wasn't really on board. He's but 387 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 1: his son ended up really rubbing the dog poop in 388 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: his dad's face because trampoline started to take off pretty quick. 389 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: So they both agreed though, the two partners, Griswaldnis and 390 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: that in order to sell this thing, they had to 391 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 1: demonstrate it. It's not the kind of thing you can 392 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: just it was so revolutionary, my friends, that they couldn't 393 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: just throw an ad up. But at the time, Griswald, 394 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 1: the former coach, had a little touring routine a diving. 395 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: They were both divers. I don't think we mentioned that, like, uh, 396 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: you know, competitive divers. George Nisson was too. Oh yeah, 397 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: Thissen well, not a competitor or not a professional, but 398 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: he was. He did two things he would did gymnastics 399 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: and diving. So Griswald was touring the country doing a 400 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,959 Speaker 1: comedy act, a diving board comedy act, uh called what 401 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: was it? The drug the diving fool, The diving fool. 402 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: It has to be seen to be believed. Yeah, so 403 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: I kind of do the same routine every summer at 404 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: neighborhood pools. Uh. He'd stagger around pretending to be like 405 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: drunk at a pool and falling off the diving board 406 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 1: and doing all these tricks and things like that. The differences. 407 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: You're not pretending, right, I am a drunken diving pool. 408 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,959 Speaker 1: Get a couple of bloody Caesar's in you, that's right, 409 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: although you just calling bloody Mary right. Well, what was 410 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: the caesar apart the cremato? Oh? Yeah, I never knew that, 411 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: Yes you did. I told you that. I mean I 412 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: never knew it until you told me years ago. Oka. Um. 413 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: But in any case, the drunken or the diving fool 414 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 1: was something that that Griswold was actually making a little 415 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 1: bit of money at. And I guess he was, you know, 416 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: touring the country and wooing the ladies. So he was like, 417 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: I kind of like this over trampolineing and so what 418 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: you are you interested in buying out the shares of 419 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: this company? Uh? And Thisison said sure, yeah, said thanks 420 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: a lot, chump, Yeah, I will take over this company myself. 421 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: And then thisis and started touring around and this is 422 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 1: when the demonstrations really took hold. He and his wife, 423 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 1: who was an acrobat name any debris. She's like a 424 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: Dutch high high wire artist, I believe, um. And you 425 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: have to like you have to understand like now in 426 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 1: the world we live, in the world we were born into. 427 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: Chuk like the trampolines are are there's a thing that 428 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: seems like they've always been around this set a time 429 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: where you had to go take them places to demonstrate them. 430 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: Or when um, when uh, Larry Griswold was doing his 431 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: his diving fool thing, when he gets to the end, 432 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: it looks like he's going to dive into a pool 433 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: and when he dives in, it turns out there's a 434 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: trampoline hidden behind this thing that looks like a pool. 435 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: So he bounced back up. That's probably pretty great if 436 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: you're a kid. Yeah, but also I think even adults 437 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: at the time, we're like, what just happening? He's just 438 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: produced magic so' and you can actually see it. Um, 439 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: there's a bit of him doing it on the Sinatra 440 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: Show in nine and you can hear the crowds going 441 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,679 Speaker 1: berserk over this kind of stuff. Um. But anyway, so he, 442 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: like you said, he decides that that's that's he's better 443 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: off doing that sells out to Nissan and then Nissan 444 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: starts touring to demonstrate the trampoline, and he had a 445 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: real flair for this. He studied business, like I said, 446 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 1: at University of Iowa. Um, I don't I'm sure the 447 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: trampoline probably he would have taken off regardless, but thanks 448 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: to um, George Nisson like it. Really he really did 449 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: a good job at promoting it and making it catch on, 450 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: especially in the sixties and the fifties. Yeah, he went 451 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: around the world actually, and he would do things like, uh, 452 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: in Central Park, he would bounce with a kangaroo. Um, 453 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure that got some pretty pretty good attention. Yeah, 454 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: he rented a kangaroo for this photo shoot and then 455 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: basically shared shared the war, shared the photo with like 456 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: the Associated Press who spread it around the world. Absolutely, 457 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 1: he went to Russia. Um, he went to Egypt and 458 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: did tricks a top of the Pyramids. And as a result, 459 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: and of course, because it's the nineteen fifties, that's kind 460 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 1: of when something like this would really it just makes 461 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: sense that it took hold then and that's when they 462 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: became a legit fad and there were people buying trampolines. 463 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 1: There were trampoline bounce centers, which apparently are big now again, 464 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: which I didn't know. Have you ever been one of those? 465 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: I told you that's where my Instagram photo spread was. 466 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: I thought yours was just a regular trampoline. No, no, 467 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,919 Speaker 1: it's at one of those bounce centers. So what are 468 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 1: They're just trampolines everywhere, every whole floor trampoline. No, they're everywhere, 469 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: built into the floors. There's places that you kind of 470 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: walk in between them. But for the most part, it's 471 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 1: like these giant um you know, the bags that like 472 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: a stunt man falls onto from from high above. They 473 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: have those built into the floor. They have trampolines everywhere, 474 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 1: trampolines and the walls at angles. It's I would say 475 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: you gotta go, but don't, or if you go, just 476 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: poke your head in and just leave. Yeah, I don't, 477 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: I've got uh. I don't want to say weak ankles 478 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: because that makes me I don't know how that makes 479 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: me sound. Something makes you sound like a thoroughbred horse. 480 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: But I don't like it. Okay, well thanks, but yeah, 481 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: if I step off a curb wrong, it's it's not fun. 482 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: So you don't need to be trampoline trampoline, not at 483 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: this age. You shouldn't. But earlier, UM, I guess we 484 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: should mention that his his idea was, like all good 485 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: business people, wasn't just so singular, like, hey, maybe we 486 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: can sell these two kids. He thought, you know, because 487 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: he was a gymnast, we can use these for training, 488 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: uh in gymnastics, um, anything anything where there's tumbling or falling. 489 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: We can we think we can like sell these, sell this, 490 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: including to the military into NASA. Yeah. Two there were 491 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: two things that he really saw early on that they 492 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: could be used forul for training, um, like you said, 493 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: tumbling or that kind of thing, but also like diving, 494 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: where you have where you're doing aerial tricks and it's 495 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: not like you just know how to do those tricks. 496 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: It takes a ton of practice. Well, it really sucks 497 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: to have to go get out of the pool, climb 498 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: back up the ladder, walk down and try it again 499 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,479 Speaker 1: every time. Dry off, have a smoke, right, if you 500 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: have UM, if you have like a harness on, you 501 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: can practice this stuff in mid air just from a trampoline. 502 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: With every bounce, you don't have to climb back up 503 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: the ladder. You can practice bounce after bounce, and then 504 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,239 Speaker 1: you could take it up onto the diving board. So 505 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: that was one and then the other, like you said, 506 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: the military and eventually NASA to get pilots adjusted to 507 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: disorienting UM body positions like tumbling head over heels, yeah, 508 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: through the air um and and learning how to keep 509 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: their orientation even when their body is flipping all over 510 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: the place. And the military bought into they said, yeah, 511 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,360 Speaker 1: that's a really good idea. So much so that when 512 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: UM George Nisson was assigned to a pre flight center 513 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: in the Navy, I think St. Mary's College outside of Oakland, 514 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: he found that they were already using trampolines for training 515 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: before he even got there, So it had caught his invention, 516 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: preceded him before he even showed up to to uh 517 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 1: proselytize it. Yeah, And like if you think about getting 518 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: on a trampoline, if it's been a lot of years, 519 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: you probably remember like, yeah, it's easy to just get 520 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: on it and jump, dumb, dumb. But it's you know, 521 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,719 Speaker 1: if you're like seriously trampolining we were doing in elementary school, 522 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: like we would learn tricks and stuff like that. It's aerobic, 523 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: it's uh, it improves your agility and balance. Um, there's 524 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: a lot of like muscle work going on, so it's 525 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: not you know, sure, you can just jump up and 526 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: down like in uh like Tom hankson Big, But if 527 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: you want to do tricks and things like that and 528 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: jumps and spins, there's there's athleticism involved for sure. Yeah, 529 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: you can get really good at it. In other words, Um, 530 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: there's one other thing then you want to take a 531 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: break in a second, So um, trampoline is one of 532 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: my favorite things. Now it's a proprietary eponym, right, which 533 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: means it's generic. But it used to be a trademark name, 534 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: like you said, um, and then it got so popular 535 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: that by the sixties George Nissen just got tired of 536 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: trying to fight unauthorized use of it, so he stopped 537 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: enforcing his trademark and it became generic. But up to 538 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: the sixties, anytime somebody in the news was describing a trampoline, 539 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: they had to call it like um, bounce, tumbling, or 540 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: just make up some words to get the point across 541 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: without using the term trampoline because it was trademarked at 542 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: the time. Rebound tumbling. That's a pretty good one. I thought, 543 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: it's not bad. So how about that break Uh, yeah, 544 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: let's do it. And I thought you're gonna get me 545 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: back and say no, all right, let's do it, all right, Chuck. So, 546 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: trampolining is an actual sport, like you said, it requires 547 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: a lot of like fitness and you can get really 548 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,239 Speaker 1: good at and there's a lot of tricks you can 549 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: learn and do. Um And although it's not technically a 550 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: UM an n c A A sport, you can find 551 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: it competitively and colleges enough colleges so that there are 552 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: colleges that compete against one another in trampoline matches. It's 553 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: just not sanctioned by the the n c a A 554 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: like say basketball or softball or football. Is Yeah, I 555 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: get the feeling. It's it's one of those fringe sports 556 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: that if enough people and in this case it's probably 557 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: uh gymnastics or gymnasts, they would say Hey. They go 558 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: to the school and say, hey, we got like twelve 559 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: people here who want to get on the trampoline and compete. 560 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: Can we do this? And they'll say sure, we can 561 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: allocate you like six dollars a year, and I've got 562 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: trampoline at my house, right, But yeah, they compete and 563 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: that's great. Um. However, early on this was actually, uh, 564 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: like that seems like something that would have happened more recently. 565 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: All the way back in they held the World Championship 566 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: in London at Royal Albert Hall of all places, and uh, 567 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: this was when this one was still like still trying 568 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: to you know, the fifties they really sold well, the 569 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: sixties they were selling okay. But like all fads, I 570 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: think he saw the writing on the wall. So things 571 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: like the World Championships and trying to get sports, legitimate sports, 572 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: UM leagues or whatever going was pretty important at the 573 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: thing to him. Yeah, I guess from that first fad 574 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: though in the sixties, like the real heyday of trampolines, UM, 575 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: it did become it started to become a sport. But 576 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: rather than people saying like this is a thing, let's 577 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: get together, it's like you're saying, like one one school, 578 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: Like one one group of gymnasts went to their school 579 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: and said, hey, we want to do this, and that 580 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: happened to other schools and other schools, and before you 581 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: know there are enough schools to compete against one another 582 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: UM and so there there is actual UM events there. 583 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: There are now like collegiate trampoline events that again aren't 584 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: sanctioned by the n c a A as far as 585 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: they know, or they didn't used to be. They maybe 586 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: now because beginning in two thousand, like the biggest of 587 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: the big happen of trampolining, and what started out is 588 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: just a training thing became an actual Olympic event. There's 589 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: now a trampoline event in the Olympics starting as of 590 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: two thousand in Sydney. Yeah, which uh Nisson lived to 591 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: see that, which was kind of cool. The little kind 592 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: of silly invention that he had so many years earlier 593 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: became an Olympic sport and that was I'm sure very 594 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: very big day for him, Yeah, because I mean, not 595 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: only was he the inventor, he was like a tireless 596 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: um uh what is it called when people yes, thank you, 597 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: thank you, Chuck. You're not very good at that part either, now, 598 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: So he was a tireless now that's or talking. He 599 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,239 Speaker 1: was a tireless promoter of it too. So I think 600 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: it meant quite a bit to him to see like 601 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: his invention become an actual Olympic sport because he was 602 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: a trained gymnast, like this was his this his thing. 603 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: He wasn't you know, like the inventor of the atch 604 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: just sketch or something like that, whereas he just accidentally 605 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: happened to like come across this idea. This is like 606 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: really important to him, and it became an Olympic sport, 607 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: this thing that he invented. That. I think that's really cool. 608 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: Plus also he was such a gymnast through and through. 609 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 1: I read that he was still able to do handstands 610 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: in his eighties and head stands into his nineties. Wow, 611 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 1: maybe they just couldn't tell his head from his butt 612 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: at that point and they thought he was doing a headstand. Maybe. 613 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: So that's usually how it goes by then. Oh boy. 614 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: Uh so, if you're at a collegiate trampoline event, you 615 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: may see synchronized tramping. Did you watch that? Yeah, it's cool, 616 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: Like any synchronized event, it's all about trying to exactly 617 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 1: mirror one another doing the same thing side by side 618 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: on two different trampolines. It's very I'm such a brad. 619 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:48,879 Speaker 1: I was watching them like, oh, they're not in sink 620 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: on the whole game. Think again, you know I how 621 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,240 Speaker 1: to sink yep, And you're like, maybe I'm not watching 622 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: the synchronized I'm looking at it from the wrong angle. Um, 623 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: it's my internet working because uh, these guys are not 624 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: on the same page. UM in the Olympics, so they 625 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: don't have that. They have two events. Uh, and you're 626 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: not likely to see these on TV. This is not 627 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: um burning up the airwaves. You probably have to have. 628 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure you can get some Olympic package where you 629 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: get everything. But Olympic trampolineing has two events, the men's 630 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: and the women's individual. And like most sports like this, 631 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: there's a compulsory routine where they say, all right, you've 632 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: got to do these predetermined tricks, and then the voluntary 633 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: routine where you really let your creative juices as a 634 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 1: trampoline or show and shine. Uh, and you get ten 635 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: bounces and you can do whatever you want. Well, I 636 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: don't know about whatever you want, but you do, you 637 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: know these fancy combinations of tricks in those ten bounces. 638 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: I also noticed on the Olympic trampoline that was like 639 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 1: a target in the center and another box around that. 640 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: And I didn't look it up, but I got the 641 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,040 Speaker 1: feeling that you kind of had to stay with and 642 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: that unless that's just for the benefit of the jumper, 643 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: because I saw them land outside of it a couple 644 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 1: of times, and I heard the announcers go, oh, yes, 645 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a penalty deduction like vaulting 646 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: off the matter or something or yeah, no, I could 647 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 1: totally see that for sure. Yeah, I'm not really sure. 648 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: But they are judged on uh, flight time, which is awesome, 649 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 1: execution and difficulty, right, and then if they bounce, if 650 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: they go through a bounce and and don't do a 651 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: trick in on that bounce there, they lose points for 652 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 1: that too. Yeah. Was they're like, what are you doing? 653 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,320 Speaker 1: What do you the rec center? It was a waste 654 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: of everyone's time. Uh. And of course it's you know, 655 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: highest cumulative score wins yep. So originally it looked like 656 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 1: Russia was going to be the big trampolineers in the world. 657 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: The Russians won the men's and women's gold in Sydney, 658 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: so the first ever gold for trampolineing the Russians one, 659 00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, China comes out of 660 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: nowhere and they start dominating. Um. I believe Dong Dong 661 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 1: is the world's most decorated trampoline athlete, with gold, silver, 662 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: and bronze to his name, not bad. But if you're 663 00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: talking women's trampoline, you want to go to Canada because 664 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,280 Speaker 1: they are as good as it gets um starring Rosanna 665 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 1: McClellan and Karen Cockburn, who are Canada's too big trampolinets, trampolineists, 666 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: n't seeing trampoline or oh I think it's whatever you 667 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: wanted to be. It's only very recently an Olympic events, 668 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 1: so it's kind of a free for all to call 669 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,280 Speaker 1: it whatever you like. Yeah, So before we get into 670 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:46,919 Speaker 1: the downer, which is injuries and and sadly deaths from trampoline, uh, 671 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,800 Speaker 1: we will mention a few other um kind of crazy 672 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: sports that you know, like the NBA during halftime or 673 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: time outs. People have tried to incorporate trampolines into other 674 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: sports or maybe just invent it's it's out of whole 675 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 1: cloth and they're always a little goofy a little So spaceball, 676 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: which I had never heard of before, just YouTube this 677 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: and check it out. It's it's much less impressive than 678 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: it sounds when you finally watch it. Yeah, because I mean, 679 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: spaceball has nothing to do with anything other than the 680 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 1: fact that it was like created during the height of 681 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 1: the space race. It's the only reason I can possibly 682 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 1: come up with it. It's called spaceball, yeah, and I said, uh, 683 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: and here it says spaceball had teams of two. I 684 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 1: only saw one person at a time, So what they 685 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 1: sub in and out I I don't know because I 686 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,439 Speaker 1: only saw I think we saw the same video, really 687 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 1: off putting lee lighted black and white video. Yeah, and 688 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: it's almost like I think one guy checks his watch 689 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,240 Speaker 1: in the middle of the match. Well, they were goofing 690 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: around and one guy hid the ball under his shirt 691 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: and was like, what what happened? Yeah, but they're all 692 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: bouncing this whole time. The point is, so there's like 693 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,800 Speaker 1: a trampoline. There's two different trampolines. Each guy's on a trampoline. 694 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 1: In between their two trampolines, the thing they're facing is 695 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: a net. In between the net is a tunnel, and 696 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 1: that's where the ball goes through. And the point is 697 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 1: to try to get the ball through the tunnel to 698 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 1: hit the other guys backstop trampoline, which is from what 699 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 1: I saw on that video and I guess you did too, 700 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: is utterly impossible to get it past the person. It's 701 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: not a great game, no, but this is I don't 702 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 1: know if George Nisson created it or helped develop it 703 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:31,879 Speaker 1: or what. But it was one of those things where 704 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, the fads starting to wane, let's 705 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: come up with new uses for the trampoline. So spaceball 706 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: didn't catch on, but then years later other people have 707 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 1: been like, hey, hey, let's not give up the ghosts. 708 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,760 Speaker 1: There are other things you can do with the trampoline, 709 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: like slam ball, which actually is kind of awesome to 710 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 1: watch now. See, I didn't find slam ball that all 711 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: I saw was people doing dunks. I didn't see like 712 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 1: real four on four basketball game. It's not exactly like 713 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: four and four basketball in that you can like it's 714 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,399 Speaker 1: more like rugby mixed with basketball with trampolines. So you're 715 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 1: not dribbling probably right, No, you're not, and somebody can 716 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 1: just knock you right off your feet, um and and 717 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 1: stop the ball from moving. But the point is, and 718 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 1: what everybody comes to see is right in front of 719 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 1: the net, there's a big, you know, ground level trampoline 720 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 1: that you jump on and do like an amazing dunk. Yeah, 721 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 1: I'm not a fan, it's not bad. Um. Then there's 722 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:35,359 Speaker 1: boss a Ball. This is crazy, like literally it is crazy. Yeah, 723 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 1: it is um one part volleyball, one part soccer, ten 724 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: parts trampoline. Well, and there's trampoline, but also the whole 725 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 1: imagine well you should just watch this one too, um, 726 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 1: but imagine a big inflatable volleyball court. So instead of sand, 727 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 1: let's say the whole thing is like a big sort 728 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: of bouncy inflatable area, and then the center part of 729 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:04,359 Speaker 1: that and around the net are actual trampolines built into that, right, 730 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,880 Speaker 1: So people are bouncing around the outside, they're doing sets 731 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 1: and stuff. And then if you're on the trampoline part, 732 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,359 Speaker 1: you jump up and you can use your feet. That's 733 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,360 Speaker 1: where the soccer comes in. Yeah. So you can do 734 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,399 Speaker 1: like bicycle and rainbow kicks. Yeah, or you can use 735 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:23,919 Speaker 1: your hands. Um, so you can spike it really hot 736 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 1: hard from high up above the net. Yeah. And I 737 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 1: get the impression that using your feet just gets you 738 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: extra points or something. Yep, And otherwise why would you 739 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: there's also well just to show off. I think there's 740 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,239 Speaker 1: a lot of glory involved there. But also the reason 741 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,360 Speaker 1: it's called Bossa Balls because it's named after Bossa Nova 742 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 1: type of samba music, and it's like you have to 743 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:52,280 Speaker 1: play to Szomba music, so it's not an official boss 744 00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: A ball match. So yeah, it's like you said, you 745 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,800 Speaker 1: just have to go watch it there and this in Spain, 746 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,720 Speaker 1: by the way, I don't think we pointed that out Spain. 747 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: I think also Brazil to Yeah, well of course, yeah, 748 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 1: but it's fun to watch. It's great. It's a it's 749 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 1: another thing you can do with trampoline. It's the coolest 750 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: of all of them, I think. I don't know, I 751 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: like my slam ball. No one likes spaceball though. You 752 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: know what I don't like about slam ball is it's 753 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 1: the same thing at the NBA games. These guys do 754 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 1: these big dunks and they're all they're like beating their 755 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 1: chests like yeah, and I'm just like, dude, like you 756 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:30,320 Speaker 1: used to trampoline. It's not like I mean, it's still impressive. 757 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 1: I couldn't go out there and do that right off 758 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 1: the bat, but take you two three try. I don't know. 759 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,920 Speaker 1: They're just acting like their ballers and stuff, and I'm 760 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 1: sure the players in the court are just like, God, 761 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 1: get these guys out of here. Yeah, no, I know 762 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,360 Speaker 1: what you mean. So that's my gripe. I'm with you. 763 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 1: I feel you man, but you're like, but it's just 764 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 1: so fun. I like watching it, have you? How about this? 765 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: This is why? This is how you'd like it. If 766 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:57,800 Speaker 1: they had elementary school basketball, it'd be into that. Yeah, 767 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,280 Speaker 1: so you would never want to put an LM. Menory 768 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 1: school player on a slam ball trampoline or trampoline at all, 769 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: at least according to the American Academy of Pediatrics. And 770 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,439 Speaker 1: by the way, I want to just puck my shirt 771 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 1: lapels a little bit here. My segways are killing it 772 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 1: in this episode. I don't know if you've noticed. I 773 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 1: know you have, but um, yeah, okay, so and I 774 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:26,719 Speaker 1: just stumbled all over my my segway just now with that. So, um. 775 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: The American Academy of Pediatrics, get this, says, do not 776 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 1: let kids six or under on a trampoline. Just don't. 777 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,000 Speaker 1: That's what they open with their guidelines for trampolines. If 778 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,839 Speaker 1: you're under six or six or under, don't go onto trampoline. 779 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 1: Your bones are too underdeveloped and a trampoline is too dangerous. 780 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 1: And until I researched this, I had no I I 781 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 1: knew trampolines are dangerous, but they're like funny haha. Dangerous 782 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 1: like that one episode of The Simpsons where Homer gets 783 00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 1: a free trampoline and turns his backyard into a tramp 784 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 1: lean park and every kid who jumps on it like 785 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,399 Speaker 1: breaks an arm or breaks their back or something like that. 786 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 1: So it's it's funny like that. No, actually it's it's 787 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 1: like dangerous and about It's like law and Dart level 788 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 1: dangerous basically. Yeah, I mean, nothing will drive that home 789 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 1: like some eighteen year old statistics. Um. But in the 790 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,399 Speaker 1: early two thousands, this is what we have. I've got 791 00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 1: newer ones. Well, I imagine it's about the same. Over 792 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 1: a four year period, there were ninety three thousand emergency 793 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 1: room visits and I guess this is the United States 794 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,319 Speaker 1: over a four year period. And here's the thing. Like 795 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,240 Speaker 1: a broken arm, that's not great, but it's not the 796 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 1: worst thing in the world. But over two thousand of 797 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 1: those nine thousand were traumatic brain injuries, and those are 798 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,080 Speaker 1: pretty bad. Yeah, between children between the ages of five 799 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: and eighteen, and the American Academy pdat Eatrics basically says, 800 00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:00,200 Speaker 1: it's the risk, like the risk of catastrophic injury. It's 801 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,839 Speaker 1: the differentiator between this and just like playing baseball or whatever, Like, 802 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,239 Speaker 1: if you get hurt on a trampoline, it's it's a 803 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 1: very good chance that you might really really be hurt. Yeah, 804 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 1: because i mean, like nobody trampolines with a helmet on 805 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,920 Speaker 1: or with shoulder pads on. You're getting you know, you 806 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 1: can't be that kid at the park. You know, you 807 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,319 Speaker 1: can't your your parents should just be like, I'd rather 808 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,279 Speaker 1: get a brain injury than have to look like that 809 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 1: kid on the trampoline at the trampoline park. Um. The 810 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 1: padding that you put on the trampoline that goes around, 811 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 1: like the springs and the frame and everything that's supposed 812 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 1: to be replaced like every year too. No one ever 813 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 1: does that. Um. So it's actually like a really dangerous 814 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 1: in mention, like much more dangerous than than people realize. 815 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 1: And some people will point to it and say, you know, 816 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:50,399 Speaker 1: actually bike like bikes, swimming, these things put more kids 817 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 1: in the hospital every year than trampolines. True, but it's 818 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,840 Speaker 1: much more likely that kids are going to be biking 819 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,680 Speaker 1: or swimming than they are going to be trampolining. And 820 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,759 Speaker 1: so it's possible that comparatively speaking, trampolines are the most 821 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:08,360 Speaker 1: dangerous activity kids can engage in. It's possible. It's not proven, 822 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,640 Speaker 1: but it's it's the statistics are there that it would 823 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 1: be not surprising to a lot of people if that 824 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 1: panned out to be the case. Yeah, and by far 825 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:22,200 Speaker 1: the most dangerous thing uh as far as trampolines go, 826 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 1: that you can let your kid do is get on 827 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 1: there with five or six other kids and it's fun 828 00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,359 Speaker 1: and it looks like a big party and kids love it. 829 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 1: But eight percent of these injuries are when there are 830 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,400 Speaker 1: multiple users on there at the same time. Yep, because 831 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 1: you bounce into one another. Crack heads, you can get um. 832 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,720 Speaker 1: There's that you know, that errant bounce that you aren't 833 00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 1: expecting and it shoots you off in a direction that 834 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 1: you want to try to do that as a kid exactly, 835 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 1: you try and like double jump people so they'll jump higher. 836 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 1: And you know, kids don't understand angles in physics. They 837 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:58,400 Speaker 1: understand physics enough that they can they try to counteract 838 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,960 Speaker 1: and other kids bounce in time it perfectly so that 839 00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,760 Speaker 1: the frequency is the opposite, so that the kid who's 840 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,680 Speaker 1: coming down and rather than bouncing, they're just hitting the 841 00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 1: upward momentum of that of that trampoline match. Just so 842 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 1: that it's like hitting the ground. Right. And there's actually 843 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 1: something called trampoline ankle where um, in kids the growth plate, 844 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 1: the plate where their um their ankle bones are growing 845 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 1: together still. Um if that gets fractured, and it can 846 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 1: get fractured from that kind of that very same kind 847 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 1: of thing where um, the the bounce is going, it's 848 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,279 Speaker 1: coming back as they're coming down. Apparently it can be 849 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 1: like hitting, like landing on the concrete from a nine 850 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 1: ft dropped Yeah, and these little fragile bones that are 851 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,399 Speaker 1: still growing can be broken, and when they they are 852 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 1: um start to grow again, their development can be all 853 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,400 Speaker 1: kinds of messed up. So there's something called trampoline ankle 854 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,520 Speaker 1: that I think, um physicians in Ottawa and Canada have 855 00:47:55,640 --> 00:48:00,120 Speaker 1: identified that as an actual thing. Well American of me 856 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,080 Speaker 1: A pediatrics does have a list of things you already mentioned. 857 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:07,360 Speaker 1: No kids under six at all, Uh, safety netting of course, 858 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 1: all that padding padding on the ground. Um, this is 859 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,240 Speaker 1: a good one. No ladders near the trampoline, people, because 860 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 1: the little kid's gonna find that and climb up. Um. 861 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,719 Speaker 1: Don't try flips in big tricks like that unless you're 862 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,799 Speaker 1: trained to do so. And only one person at a time. 863 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,040 Speaker 1: That's the big, big, big rule. Get on there with 864 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 1: a bunch of kids. It's just you're just asking for it, right, 865 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 1: which is why some people point to these trampoline parks. 866 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,719 Speaker 1: It's like, well, wait a minute, a lot of the 867 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,280 Speaker 1: kids here under six. The whole point is to stuff 868 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 1: as many kids under a trampoline or bounce pit or 869 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:45,280 Speaker 1: whatever is possible. That's where most of the fund comes from. 870 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 1: And UM, there have been a lot of I don't 871 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 1: want to say a lot, but there have been some 872 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:54,239 Speaker 1: very high profile deaths of mostly adults at these places 873 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 1: where UM, like grown grown men have like broken their necks, 874 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 1: suffered traumatic UM spinal injuries, injuries, UM have become paralyzed 875 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:07,520 Speaker 1: and died. UM. A New York Yankees picture had a 876 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 1: compound fracture of his ankle and almost died from blood loss. 877 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:15,360 Speaker 1: So UM. There was an advocacy group that that went away. 878 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,480 Speaker 1: I think their last post is two thousand and sixteen. 879 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,719 Speaker 1: But they're called UM Think before you bounce. But UM, 880 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:26,040 Speaker 1: even without looking them up, it's like, go to research 881 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,400 Speaker 1: this before you go to your next trampoline park, and 882 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 1: I guarantee you will second guess it. I thought that 883 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 1: group was for recommendations before you decide to leave a party. No, Nope, 884 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 1: interesting dad joke. Alert. They're coming harder and faster these days. 885 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:46,680 Speaker 1: Have you noticed. Uh, by the way, I said, I 886 00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 1: had more up to date statistics. Get this in Indiana 887 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:53,440 Speaker 1: University study found that between two thousand two and two 888 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:57,520 Speaker 1: thousand and eleven, not ninety three thousand and four years, 889 00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,759 Speaker 1: a million plus e er visits in the US and 890 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:05,280 Speaker 1: nine period nine years, that's a lot of er visits 891 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,680 Speaker 1: from trampolines. Well, hopefully that number is going down because 892 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:12,839 Speaker 1: trampoline sales for people in homes have been going down 893 00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 1: since two thousand four. Uh so maybe people are just 894 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:21,000 Speaker 1: realizing it's it's too dangerous, who knows, or at least 895 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,400 Speaker 1: sink them into the ground so you don't have as 896 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,399 Speaker 1: far to fall. That's that's one thing. It is one 897 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,839 Speaker 1: thing to Uh, Well, if you want to know more 898 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,160 Speaker 1: about trampoline's I guess go read up on it. I 899 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 1: would say go jump on it, but just don't. Um 900 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,279 Speaker 1: And since I said just don't, it means it's time 901 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:43,239 Speaker 1: for listener mail. Yeah. This is a two parter. Uh. 902 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,400 Speaker 1: The first part is just gonna be uh us issuing 903 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:52,280 Speaker 1: sort of retraction slash apology during the Michael Dylon episode 904 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:57,120 Speaker 1: recently transpioneer Michael Dillon, we decided, um, which was not 905 00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 1: a good idea to mirror Dylan his own experience in 906 00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,520 Speaker 1: life and his own transition using the pronouns that he 907 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,240 Speaker 1: himself used, trying to make a point that there weren't 908 00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,680 Speaker 1: even names for this stuff back then. And we had 909 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:14,359 Speaker 1: quite a few trans listeners that wrote in, all very 910 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,920 Speaker 1: kind about it and said, hey, listen, what you do 911 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,760 Speaker 1: now is you refer to that person from their moment 912 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,439 Speaker 1: of birth, like it doesn't matter about their journey and 913 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,000 Speaker 1: and even what pronouns they used at the time, Like, 914 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:27,960 Speaker 1: what you really need to do is just refer to 915 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,759 Speaker 1: that person by the gender they identify with from conception 916 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:36,240 Speaker 1: on or not conception, but you know, from birth on. Um. 917 00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,759 Speaker 1: And yeah, like you said, everybody who wrote in was 918 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 1: very um nice and gentle about it. Yeah they know 919 00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,800 Speaker 1: we meant well right exactly, So um, thanks to everybody 920 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,360 Speaker 1: who wrote in to let us know for sure. Um. Okay, 921 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 1: what's part two? Well, Part two is along the same lines. 922 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:53,799 Speaker 1: And this is just a good tip. I always love 923 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:58,640 Speaker 1: getting these um just sort of nudges about like current 924 00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:02,040 Speaker 1: best practices for language. This is from Anne. Hey, guys 925 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,720 Speaker 1: and Jerry. I've been listening for at least a decade, 926 00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,560 Speaker 1: and I've really enjoyed learning so much over the years. 927 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,920 Speaker 1: I really appreciate how you handle language. I'm an English teacher, 928 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,920 Speaker 1: and you're always trying to use the most appropriate and 929 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,080 Speaker 1: sensitive term for any group. Recently, I listened to the 930 00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,600 Speaker 1: Black Loyalist episode and was reminded of something I read 931 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:23,120 Speaker 1: a little while ago, which recommended using the term enslaved 932 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,759 Speaker 1: person rather than slave, to help express that the state 933 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,080 Speaker 1: of slavery was not some quality of these humans, but 934 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,439 Speaker 1: the result of an action by enslavers. She said, I'd 935 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,040 Speaker 1: never thought of that, but had been trying to use 936 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,319 Speaker 1: that language in my classroom, and I thought i'd pass 937 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,279 Speaker 1: it along. Keep up the good work, and thanks for 938 00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,920 Speaker 1: all the knowledge. And that is from Anne. Thanks Anne. 939 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,080 Speaker 1: That's a good one and it really goes to the 940 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,799 Speaker 1: heart of like you know, h language does so much 941 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:53,560 Speaker 1: to like justify things, legitimize things, to to diminish people 942 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 1: like It's it's crazy how how important language is. So 943 00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,840 Speaker 1: that was a good tip too. Yeah, so uh to 944 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:04,480 Speaker 1: the people out there that think big deal, it's not important, 945 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,839 Speaker 1: like language is important. It's more than just words. That's 946 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:13,440 Speaker 1: how we communicate chump. Yeah uh. You really shouldn't use 947 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,480 Speaker 1: the word chump though, because nowadays we say you chumped 948 00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:21,520 Speaker 1: person a chumped person? Um, thank you, what were you 949 00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,360 Speaker 1: going to say? I didn't have one. I'm glad you 950 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,320 Speaker 1: came through. I swooped in at the last moment. Yeah. Um. 951 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:27,759 Speaker 1: If you want to get in touch of this, like 952 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,080 Speaker 1: and did or like all the people who let us 953 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,360 Speaker 1: know what we got way way wrong on the Michael 954 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,799 Speaker 1: Dillon episode and again thanks for that, you can go 955 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,439 Speaker 1: to our website. It's called stuff you Should Know dot 956 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,800 Speaker 1: com and there you will find all of our social links. 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