1 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to wok F Daily with 2 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording from the Home Bunker. Folks, 3 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: it is official. Joe Biden has announced his re election 4 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:29,319 Speaker 1: for president for the twenty twenty four presidential cycle. And yes, 5 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: for some it and for some anyone, it feels like 6 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: deja vous if the matchup is exactly the same as 7 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: twenty twenty with Biden versus Trump. And I gotta tell you, 8 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: I did a video on TikTok that I also posted 9 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: on my Instagram saying that we need to be going 10 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: ten toes down for democracy at this point, right, And 11 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: what do I mean by that? I don't give a 12 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: fuck about the if and or about who else should 13 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: be running about. Oh but Biden's age all of these things, 14 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: because I got to tell you, and I've said this before, 15 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: I've said it this week already, that I have never, 16 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: in my entire adult life, in my professional career in 17 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: politics and in policy, been more concerned, felt more of 18 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: an existential threat two our democracy ever in my whole 19 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: fucking life than I do right now. And that's adding 20 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: on the twenty twenty election cycle. Because what I realize 21 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 1: and what I think all of us have realized over 22 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: the last couple of years is that the Republican extremism 23 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: has gotten way fucking worse. They have become emboldened since 24 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: the insurrection, they have become emboldened since Donald Trump's exit 25 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: from the White House. They have gone and taken extremism 26 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: to lengths that we never thought that we would see, 27 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: not in a quote unquote democracy, Not when you are 28 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 1: banning books, not when you are attacking private companies and corporations, 29 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: not when you are literally pulling microphones away from elected 30 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: officials and telling them and their constituents that they don't 31 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: have a right to speak, even though they were duly 32 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: elected to office, because you don't want the debate, whether 33 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: it be on guns, whether it be on gender affirming care. 34 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,119 Speaker 1: We've seen it in Tennessee and now we've just seen 35 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: it recently in Montana. Right Republicans are being relentless. They 36 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: are defunding libraries because they don't want the books that 37 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: offer critical thinking, that offer perspective on history, on life, 38 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: on society that isn't through the lens of white supremacy. 39 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: And so when you start to see right that it 40 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: isn't just a speckling. Right. It isn't just a sprinkling 41 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: of these things that are happening in deep, deep red states. No, 42 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: It's happening everywhere. So we do not have the time. 43 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: I cannot fucking stress this enough. If you ask me, oh, Danielle, 44 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't you like somebody younger and this and that and 45 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: more progressive than blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Sure, 46 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: if we didn't have a loaded fucking gun pointed to 47 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: the head of our democracy, then yeah, maybe I would 48 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: love to pontificate. I'd love to have a larger primary field. 49 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: I'd love to have a primary right where we all 50 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: get together and pick the best person. But when we 51 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: are being held hostage by white supremacist terrorists with a 52 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: loaded gun at the face of our democracy, now is 53 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: not the time to say maybe not the guy who 54 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: got into the job and is doing a hell of 55 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: a job better than any of us had ever anticipated 56 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: him doing. So. When folks want to tell me about 57 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: why they don't want Joe Biden and why they don't 58 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: want this, that and the other thing, I want to 59 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: lift up a couple of things that are known to 60 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: be true. Here's just a little bit of the wins 61 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: that Joe Biden has had Since the beginning of his 62 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: first term. There have been over twelve million new jobs 63 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: that have been added right since he's taken office. This 64 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: is well above any other president, well above by at 65 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: least five or six million above what other presidents have 66 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: been able to do. The unemployment rate is near historic lows. 67 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: He signed the Inflation Reduction Act into law, capped the 68 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: cost of insulin for seniors at thirty five dollars, created 69 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: infrastructure investments, signed the Chips and Science Act into law, 70 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: bringing back manufacturing jobs. First, major gun safety, which is 71 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: the only state point that I have because it doesn't 72 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: go far enough and doesn't really have tea largest investment 73 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: to come back. Climate change re entered the United States 74 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: back into the Paris Climate Accord that Donald Trump pulled 75 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: us out of. Confirmation of Justice Kintaji Brown Jackson, support 76 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: of Ukraine record enrollment in the Affordable Care Act, and 77 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: enshrined marriage equality protections into law, as well as interracial 78 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: marriage because we live at a time when that is 79 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: on the chopping block as well. So folks, that is 80 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: just a couple of the things that Joe Biden has 81 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: been able to do without without a super majority in Congress. 82 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: And so when folks want to talk to me about 83 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: his age, yes he is fucking old. He's old as fuck. 84 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: But the reality is we got a run with what 85 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: we have right now. And look, I would love to 86 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: tell you, yeah, well, if we lose this one, we'll 87 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: get them next time. There is no fucking next time. 88 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: That's the thing that I want people to understand. This 89 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: is the same thing that I've been saying since twenty twenty. 90 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 1: There is no next time. What Republicans are signaling at 91 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: the state and local level and those that are at 92 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: the federal level, is that they do not give a 93 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: fuck about law and order. They don't give a fuck 94 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: about the Constitution, they don't give a fuck about democracy. 95 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 1: They don't want elected officials to be able to speak. 96 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: They're not interested in debate, They're not interested in offering 97 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: up policies to make America great. What they're interested in 98 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: are the policies of cruelty, are the policies of harm. 99 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: Are what Donald Trump said in Waco, Texas, that He's 100 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: going to be their retribution against all people that have 101 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: done wrong against them. What queer people for just existing 102 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: black people for just living inside of their skin, women 103 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: for having wombs and deciding that they don't want to procreate. 104 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: What is this wrongdoing that they are going after? So 105 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: if you think that we get another bite at the apple, 106 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: I'm telling you no. And if Donald Trump isn't in 107 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: prison right by twenty twenty five and he loseth, Donald 108 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: Trump gonna run again and again and again and again. 109 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: The threat to our democracy is going to remain so 110 00:07:54,040 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: long as Republicans hold a gabble anywhere. And so it 111 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: is going to be up to us to put aside 112 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: our ego and our wants and operate in the reality 113 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: of what is. And look, I know that for some 114 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: it is a very difficult and hard pill to swallow, 115 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: and I say drink some motherfucking water and get it down, 116 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: because if we are not going ten toes fucking down 117 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: for Joe Biden, then we might as well kiss our democracy, 118 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: our civil liberties goodbye. Like I said in my video, 119 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: if you want this country, all fifty states to look 120 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: like this state of Florida, keep playing games, keep going 121 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 1: up on social media and talking about Joe Biden's agent, 122 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: giving a list of people who you think should run 123 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: in his place, keep it up. It is that fucking serious. 124 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: If I thought that there was room for us to 125 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: have other conversations other than the existential one that we 126 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: are in, then I would be the first person to 127 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: be using my microphone on my platform to do so. 128 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: But I am coming out right the fuck now and 129 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: saying now is not the fucking time. That is how 130 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: serious of a place that we find ourselves when our 131 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: allies around the world are making plans about America's demise 132 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: and what happens to them to the world democracy if 133 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: that should fall so we don't have time for debate, Folks, 134 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: That energy needs to be going into registering people to vote, 135 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: pushing back against your state and local officials, putting money 136 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: into campaigns across this country, and backing this president with 137 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: every fucking thing that you have, because our lives are 138 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: on the line. Coming up next, my conversation with our 139 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: good friend Kurt Bardella. Folks, you know that whenever I 140 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: have the opportunity to speak with our friend Kurt Bardella. 141 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 1: Democratic strategist, op ed writer, opinion columnists for USA Today, 142 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: The LA Times, Everywhere and anywhere contributor but unpaid at MSNBC, 143 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: is what I will make sure that people know Kurt Bardella. 144 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: It has been a couple of weeks in politics and 145 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: in America. You have been all over the place, as 146 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: you always are, but I want to start today. You know, 147 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: I know that in your other life you spend a 148 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: ton of time in Nashville, in Tennessee in the country 149 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: music scene, and Nashville and Tennessee as a whole has 150 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: become a focal point, a touchstone to illuminate past the shooting, 151 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: the best shooting that took place at an elementary school 152 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: there a couple of weeks ago. But the removal, the 153 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: attempted removal of the Tennessee Three, but the removal of 154 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: two Justin Jones and Justin Pearson, two black young Democratic leaders, 155 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: has placed a spotlight onto the conniving nature of this 156 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: very anti democratic Republican party. And I wanted to give 157 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: you an opportunity just from the many hats that you 158 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 1: have worn, how what we're seeing these past couple of 159 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: weeks has landed for you. 160 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting because people should know historically that 161 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 2: Tennessee is the birthplace of the plant. You know, this 162 00:11:56,160 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 2: is a place where you know, John Lewis sat at 163 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: at the Woolworth's counter and protests getting into good trouble. 164 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 2: You know, there is an intersection in the heart of 165 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 2: downtown Nashville of John Lewis Way and Martin Luther King 166 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 2: Junior Boulevard. Uh. You know, the fight for social justice 167 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 2: and civil rights. Uh, you know runs through Tennessee, and 168 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 2: here we are, all these years removed, decades removed from 169 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 2: some of those iconic moments, and the Republican Party just 170 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 2: proverbally took the white sheet off and exposed themselves to everybody. 171 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 2: You know, when you expel two black lawmakers but don't 172 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 2: expel the white one. 173 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like, how obvious? How obvious? Right? What 174 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,239 Speaker 1: was their excuse? Kurt? She didn't use a bullhorn? 175 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 2: Right? Yeah, of course, of course, you know, I think 176 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 2: that what has happened here, Yes, for any you know, 177 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: legitimate protests to succeed in the long run, there are 178 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 2: there are there are lynchpin moments where the opposition does 179 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 2: something so heinous, so out of bounds, out of touch 180 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 2: with the mainstream of the electorate. You know that that 181 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 2: it almost accelerates the cause and allows it to reach 182 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 2: and cut through the typical political barriers that exist in conversations, 183 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 2: especially about guns and shootings. We've had so many of 184 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 2: them that it's a cycle that itself so often that 185 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: it's so easy for people that aren't directly tied to 186 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 2: an incident or community to kind of check out of it. 187 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 2: But this took it to a new level. It extended 188 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 2: the conversation beyond the life cycle of mass shootings that 189 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 2: we usually have. And I think it, I think it's 190 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 2: gonna go down in history. Honestly, is one of the 191 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 2: most important moments to happen. Shortly thereafter the headline today 192 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 2: the front page of the Tennessee and is the Republican 193 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 2: governor bility talking about wanting more gunderful that doesn't happen 194 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 2: if the Tennessee three thing doesn't happen as well. And 195 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 2: so even though we may never see anything come of it, 196 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 2: the conversation is evolving beyond where it would have in 197 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 2: a place like Tennessee. Uh, you know, because of the 198 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 2: Tennessee three, because of the Republican overage, because of the 199 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 2: overt recial undertones involved, and and you know, and let's 200 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 2: be clear what they did here. They told the black 201 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 2: black guys, you've gone too far. We're gonna make an 202 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 2: example out of you go back to go back to 203 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: where you belong. That's what that all. 204 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: That's what that was about. 205 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 2: And it repelled a lot of people. You know, even 206 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 2: regardless of where you think about guns, this what beyond that. 207 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 2: It's a such flavorant abusive power, authoritarianism, and I think 208 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 2: it is one of the most we will look back 209 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 2: one day on this as a very important historical different. 210 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: I'm so glad that you laid out the history of 211 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: Tennessee for folks to really remember and understand what kind 212 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: of runs through the soil there. And I think that 213 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: what has also ignited hope in me and I tweeted this, 214 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: you know several days ago. Is that a part of 215 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: me different from you, Kurk who you know, you travel 216 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: around and you go to these you know, into these 217 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: red states, I don't, right, So for me to see 218 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: these young people flood into the streets, flood into the 219 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: state capitol to be charged up, fired up, you know 220 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: in a way that I was just like you would 221 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: have thought this was Washington, d C. At March for 222 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 1: our lives a couple of years ago. The energy day 223 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: after day after day that they've been bringing in so 224 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: for me on the outside, this was a shock to see, 225 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: a pleasant shock to see, right. And I forget what 226 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: Republican it was. You can remind me who said, oh, 227 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: this is what indoctrination looks like. Right, I forget who 228 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: it was who said that. Was it shocking for you 229 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: to see that level of energy coming in support of 230 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: the two justines, but really of the fact that these 231 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: young people are tired of dying. Yeah, they're tired of 232 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: being on the front lines of the Republicans war on America. 233 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 2: Well, I think yeah, I think it was Scott Walker 234 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 2: was the Republican. 235 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: Yes, Scott Walker, yep, yeah. 236 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 2: You know it was so heartening and asked for one 237 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 2: time that one of the things that gives me hope 238 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 2: about our future is that the next generation that keeps 239 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 2: coming up is more progressive than the one. You know 240 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 2: that that they that preceded. Uh. And I think Tennessee 241 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 2: here is a really good example of that. And there 242 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 2: are and people should know too. There's a ton of 243 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 2: college campuses and institutions in Tennessee. In the Nashville area. 244 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 2: You have places like you know, Vanderbilt University, you have MTSU, 245 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 2: you have a lot of music business schools too. And 246 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 2: you know, because and you may not think this at first, 247 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 2: but country music is the heart and soul of the 248 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:36,719 Speaker 2: Nashville community. You know, it is the largest industry, and 249 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 2: that attracts a ton of younger talent there who believe 250 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 2: in expression, who believe you know, creatives and arts. You 251 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 2: know that that tends to be a more liberal crap. 252 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 2: And you may think that the music itself appeals more 253 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 2: to the Red States, but the people who work there, 254 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 2: who work on music grow, who work for the music 255 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 2: labels and the pr agencies and the entertainment side of that, 256 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 2: they are all very progressive. And they all came up, 257 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 2: you know, going to the schools in Tennessee, and you know, 258 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 2: and I think the old guard got kind of, you know, 259 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 2: a dose of that reality that you know, this isn't 260 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 2: your grandpa's you know town anymore. Uh. You know, Nashville 261 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 2: itself is very blue Democrat mayor. Uh it was a 262 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 2: Democrats led count City council that rejected the idea of 263 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 2: even having the Reublication Committee, uh, you know, host the 264 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 2: RNC convention. They are they were looking at doing that 265 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 2: at one point, and the Democrats said, no, no, Dice, 266 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 2: you know, so it is. And and again what was 267 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 2: so amazing and you alluded to this a second igo, Daniel, 268 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 2: We weren't watching a protest in New York or Orange, California, 269 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 2: especially Coach, the liberal elites and all that nonsense. Was 270 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 2: this was this was Tennessee, a very you know, you know, 271 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 2: when you went to get outside the metropolitan areas of 272 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 2: of Nashville and of Memphis, very conservative area, and to 273 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 2: have that type of presence, you know that, you know, 274 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 2: I literally was just having this conversation with someone at 275 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 2: the Democratic National Committee earlier today about we need to 276 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 2: send more Democrats there. I think one of the greatest 277 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 2: things that happened in all of this, and I have 278 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 2: to get props to the Vice President, Comb Harris, for 279 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 2: immediately recognizing something was happening and that we needed at 280 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 2: a national level to have these guys backs. She went 281 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 2: there in lightning speed. People don't understand the logistics involved 282 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 2: in setting the president or vice president anywhere is a 283 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 2: mountain of logistics. Things don't generally happen. There's a reason 284 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 2: why trips are planned out weeks and months in advance. 285 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 2: For her to be able to turn that around. Basically 286 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 2: twenty four hours. This is remarkable and it showed a 287 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 2: real political intuition in my opinion, the vice president's part 288 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 2: of meeting that moment and helping drive national attention to it. 289 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 2: It showed the value of the vice president in the 290 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: way that I think we haven't seen in a while. 291 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 2: From yeah, yep, And it's a signal to national democrats. 292 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 2: Don't abandon Tennessee. Do not surrender ground to the other side. 293 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 2: So many Democrats I talked to Tennessee feel like they 294 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 2: just kind of get taken for granted, there aren't many 295 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 2: resources invested there. They're left to kind of effect for themselves. 296 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 2: And what ends up happening is Republicans get super majorities 297 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 2: in these places and due to crap that we just 298 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 2: saw them. Do we need to have a more concerted 299 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 2: effort in having a presence in these places. We may 300 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 2: not ever be the majority there, but we could have 301 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 2: a very We could put up a fight exactly. 302 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: I think that what it is indicative of is that 303 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: we can put up a fight. Right. I think that 304 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: too often democrats see have seeded. They not only do 305 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: they seed ground, seed actual states, but they seed language. Right, 306 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: They've given over patriotism and liberty and freedom right to 307 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: this anti democratic, hateful party right. But they have been 308 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: the ones that have been able to twist language and 309 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: to make us believe that places like Georgia couldn't turn blue, 310 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,479 Speaker 1: couldn't turn purple. Right. And it's the people on the ground, 311 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: to your point, that are the ones that are doing 312 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: the works, often with no support and no funding, you know, 313 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: to get this done. I want to switch gears, you know, 314 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: because again this is America. In twenty twenty three, so 315 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: there was another mass shooting and you know that now 316 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: takes place in Kentucky at a bank. And what I 317 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: want to talk about with you, Kurt, is what I've 318 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: been seeing and what I posted on my own social 319 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: was a side by side New York Post front page article, 320 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: one that had the face of Trayvon Martin, the young 321 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: man that was murdered by George Zimmerman for doing nothing 322 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: other than being black with a hood on and walking 323 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: home sixteen years old, was gunned down. George Zimmerman was acquitted. 324 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: The headline of the New York Post in twenty fourteen 325 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: was Trayvon Martin had traces of marijuana in his system. 326 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: Fast forward now to twenty twenty three to the white 327 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: mass murderer in Kentucky, and the leading headline is about 328 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: where this motherfucker went to school? Right, what sport they played? 329 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: And so I want you to talk about how it 330 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: is still the white mainstream media's ability to humanize white 331 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: mass murderers, leaving behind the story of the victims, right, 332 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: the weapon of choice that is continually used in order 333 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: to uplift Oh, he's had a hard life. 334 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 2: Oh we see that. I mean, you know, this is 335 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 2: one of those things that drives me absolutely crazy. And 336 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 2: it just shows the the tent of racism that colors 337 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 2: almost every facet of American media culture. Because someone is, 338 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 2: you know, skin is white, they are given such a 339 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt and are able to escape a 340 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 2: certain type of scrutiny that anytime that someone of a 341 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 2: darker shade of skin does the same exact thing or 342 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 2: is in the similar position, that there is this rush 343 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 2: to judgment and rush to stereotype robe And we see it, 344 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 2: whether it's with you know, the situation that you tweeted 345 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 2: about which I saw, you know, or even just look 346 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 2: at how Republicans right now are going after Manhattan. Da 347 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 2: alf of Bragg, who happens to be black. You know, 348 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 2: they don't do that if you know it's a Brack Kavanaugh, uh, 349 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 2: you know, or or one of their own. The you know, 350 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 2: the the the threats that get thrown out at people 351 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 2: of color who they ye disagree with, I guess will 352 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 2: politely say, uh, and people that also includes you and 353 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 2: I who get those same type of time. You know, 354 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 2: that's that's all kind of by design. I always say, 355 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 2: it's not a glitch, it's a feature, like that's the 356 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 2: republic Party, that is their way. Uh. You know, being 357 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 2: a person of color in this country means that you 358 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 2: have to play air free ball. And if you and 359 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 2: if you have one second where you aren't the best 360 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 2: version of yourself, you're a jug dealer, you're uh you 361 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 2: know your your you're a threat, you're a criminal, you're 362 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 2: under suspicion. Contrast that to how you know, the world 363 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 2: kind of looks at white people and cellular circumstances, and 364 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 2: they're sympathetic characters. They got a lot going on. They 365 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 2: they've been having to overcome things. It's like every excuse 366 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 2: possible to make it some how okay, to justify mass murder, 367 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 2: racts of terror, you know, look no further than how 368 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 2: the Republican parity itself has recast the January sixth domestic 369 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 2: errors as political prisoners who are being mistreated and who's 370 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 2: who's who's By the way, who's jails happen to be 371 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 2: a ship ton better than any people of color in jail, 372 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 2: Like we'll give me a break. You know, they got 373 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 2: a choir singing songs for Donald Trump. Price say, when 374 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 2: white people commit crimes, Republicans go visit them in jail 375 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 2: and shot a spotlight on how unjust it is that 376 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 2: they're being treated a certain way. But black people commit 377 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 2: crimes or accused of committing a crime. You know, they 378 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 2: had a comment they deserve. 379 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: Would they take out full page ads like Donald Trump 380 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 1: did to the exonerated five and call for their hanging? Yea? 381 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 2: You know, and again, within the criminal justice system, the 382 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 2: parody that exists and the racism inherent bias that the 383 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 2: exists people of color is no more appetent than the 384 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 2: criminal justice system. 385 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 1: Staying on the criminal justice system for a minute, I 386 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: do want to touch upon the fact that Alvin Bragg 387 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: and the Manhattan DA's office have filed a lawsuit against 388 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: Jim Jordan Jim Jordan has tried to weaponize his committee 389 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: and his power in Congress in order to drag Alvin 390 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: Bragg in, to make him explain why the you know, 391 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 1: sovereign state of New York has to somehow comply and 392 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: tell the Feds, who have no involvement in this case 393 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: against Donald Trump, why he has charged Donald Trump with 394 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: thirty four felonies. So Alvin Bragg is suing him, and 395 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: I wanted to just get your thoughts and reactions to that. 396 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 2: I think it's great that Alvin Bragg is funny back 397 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 2: this way. I think Democrats are to pay attention here. 398 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 2: This is how you find that you do not let 399 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 2: them have open feel to just say and do whatever 400 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 2: they want to smear you, to attack you, to obstruct justice, 401 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 2: to basically be an extension of Donald Trump's legal defense team, 402 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 2: because that's what the House you just shared can being 403 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 2: is turned into under Jim Jordan's watch. It's not about 404 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 2: whether Alpha Brad will win the case in court at 405 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 2: the end of the day, It's about having a statement 406 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 2: on the record, making sure that everybody understands, particularly the media, 407 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 2: that what the Republicans are doing in Congress, you know, 408 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 2: is blatantly trying to interfere with an ongoing investigation, try 409 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 2: to protect their leader, Donald Trump. It is one hundred 410 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 2: percent political. It is not the purview of the House 411 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 2: representatives to be investigating independent district attorneys and their cases, 412 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 2: especially once they are ongoing right now. And so I 413 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 2: think Bragg has been much more forceful than people would 414 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 2: have expected. But I think that's what's for in these times. 415 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 2: I know that most of the time attorneys are the 416 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 2: first tell you say, as little as possible, don't make 417 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 2: it a public fight, just back away and do your 418 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 2: job and keep your massh But that doesn't work against 419 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 2: this enemy. That doesn't work against the Jim Jordan's and 420 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 2: James kongwords and Archer Taylor Green's and law and bow 421 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 2: of Arts, the Matt Gates is they have shown that 422 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 2: they're literally willing to throw out the entire democratic process 423 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 2: to get their way, and they're willing to do so 424 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 2: with you know, violent intentions. So taking the high road 425 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 2: isn't a luxury that we have right now against this 426 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 2: brand of enemies. And so I think that Brag fighting 427 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 2: back this way is you know, a queue for everybody 428 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 2: that comes up each proble because that you know, we 429 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 2: need to be more aggressive and more decisive and to 430 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 2: not let these guys get away with just saying all 431 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 2: the garbage they say without any kind of pushback. 432 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's time for the you know, the 433 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: letting things slide mentality or the you know, when they 434 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: go low, we go high, because I actually think the 435 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: high road is to sue right. He didn't go out 436 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: and call a press conference and start calling Jim Jordan 437 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of names right in the way that 438 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: Donald Trump was. He didn't take to social media. He 439 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: took to court. And I think that until Democrats as 440 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: a whole decide to use every single tool in their 441 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: toolbox in order to fight back against this very corrupt 442 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: Republican Party, then we're not going to get anywhere. So 443 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: hopefully he is the blue print. My friend, Kurt Bardella, 444 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: thank you so much for making the time to join 445 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: wok F. We always appreciate you. 446 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 2: We'll talk to you soon, my friend. 447 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: That is it for me today. Dear friends on wok F. 448 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: As always, power to the people and to all the people. Power, 449 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: get woke and stay woke as fuck.