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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with on our radio.

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Speaker 2: It's the Almost miss podcast, and we are here with

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Speaker 2: the legendary mysterious been White in the world. She has

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Speaker 2: been seeing a while, Ashley, you haven't been seeing in

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Speaker 2: a while, sir, What are you talking about. I missed

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Speaker 2: one week?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, and then I was here last week,

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Speaker 3: So I've been around.

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Speaker 2: Oh you've been around. Yeah, let's just.

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Speaker 3: Forget I understand it. The first two weeks of the month,

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Speaker 3: I was absolutely not present. But now we're in September

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Speaker 3: and we have a fresh new start for the new

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Speaker 3: school year.

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Speaker 2: Who knows what you've been up to. You've been up

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Speaker 2: to something. I don't know what it is, but you're

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Speaker 2: hanging out with these big A list celebrities now, like

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Speaker 2: Chris Harrison posting all of your Instagram and Lauren Zema.

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Speaker 2: So you, Chris and Lauren Zema are just butting it

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Speaker 2: up in Newport. I don't know if you flew them

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Speaker 2: out there on your private jet or what. But what

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Speaker 2: was going on this morning?

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, we had so much fun. That was

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Speaker 3: yesterday and we just all posted it today. And Lauren,

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Speaker 3: we're here doing a stay with a couple stay with

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Speaker 3: a couple other friends down in Watch Hill in the

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Speaker 3: real fancy fans area of Rhode Island, where Taylor Swift

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Speaker 3: has her house, and they they were able to come

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Speaker 3: and hang out with us yesterday Monday, Labor Day, and

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Speaker 3: Jared of course had to work, so we went to

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Speaker 3: Audrey's to get lunch that Jared could like hang with

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Speaker 3: them for a brief bit, and then I took them

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Speaker 3: on a little trip to Newport, got a drink on

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Speaker 3: one of my favorite lawns outlooking like all the sailboats

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Speaker 3: and the bridge right.

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Speaker 2: That place, you guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, for my rehearsal dinner, we went to the

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Speaker 3: resort next to it is the exact same view Castle Hill,

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Speaker 3: ind just happens to be like a little bit more

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Speaker 3: like open and friendly to the public during the day,

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Speaker 3: like they have a bar that's always open out on

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Speaker 3: the lawn, but they're like the exact save aesthetic. Then

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Speaker 3: I took them to our wedding venue, Rosecliff, because Lauren

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Speaker 3: is really into the guilded age on HBO, so we

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Speaker 3: drove by a Cole Mansions. We got the car for

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Speaker 3: that one because it's where we got married. And they

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Speaker 3: couldn't go to our wedding because of respectable reasons. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and unfortunately, and they're like, oh, we so regretted. We

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Speaker 3: really should have made it happen. They're so sweet, but

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Speaker 3: I'm glad that I was able to show them around.

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Speaker 3: It was just really fun. It's really and they got

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Speaker 3: to meet the kids. Chris and Dawson were so cute

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Speaker 3: with donuts. Yeah, he really is wonderful with children. Lauren

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Speaker 3: was texting me, She's like, you don't need to have

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Speaker 3: your nanny come to hang out with them, Like, Chris

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Speaker 3: is gonna be good with them anyway, and he was like, actually,

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Speaker 3: like so good and so entertaining to them. No, that's

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Speaker 3: like surprising, but it was really adorable to see somebody

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Speaker 3: who's like so like iconic in our lives just interact

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Speaker 3: with our children. You know, has he met Winni yet?

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Speaker 2: Have they met Winni yet?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: I don't think he has. Yeah, No, he has not

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Speaker 2: met Winnie yet. He will someday hopefully, But they've been

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Speaker 2: very supportive to Winnie. They sent her some clothing that

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Speaker 2: makes me almost cry when she so cute. So you're

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Speaker 2: hanging out Chris Harrison you've been around it's I'm assuming

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Speaker 2: also you've watched the finale of Paradise.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I have.

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Speaker 2: It's a big deal, the finale of Paradige.

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Speaker 3: Can we talk about your Italy trip first?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you want to know about it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys went to Italy with the whole family

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Speaker 3: two years ago. Was this just the three of you?

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Speaker 2: The three of us and then one of well, Jase Jace,

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Speaker 2: Jess's maid of honor, and her husband came with us

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, so how was it traveling the two of

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Speaker 2: It was actually amazing. Everybody told us that this was

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Speaker 3: They're probably right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, a long time ago, and so we planned

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Speaker 2: this trip before we knew that Jess was even pregnant.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we bought it. We bought it in like one

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Speaker 2: of those nonprofit auctions and you have a couple of

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Speaker 2: we found out she was pregnant, obviously, we started like talking,

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Speaker 2: months at that point, and because of jess breastfeeding and

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Speaker 2: because of Winnie's ability to travel, we decided to bring

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Speaker 2: a blast. And we went to this small little town

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Speaker 2: in Italy called Cortona, cortonas in Tuscany in the mountains.

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Speaker 2: It's gorgeous. Uh, it's it has so much history. Uh

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Speaker 2: it's up on the top of a hill. It's really

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Speaker 2: We had a really slow trip, meaning jess and I

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Speaker 2: would wake up early with whinnye. We'd take her down

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Speaker 2: to the same coffee shop every day. We'd sit at

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Speaker 2: the owners of this coffee shop, probably in there's sixties.

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Speaker 2: Jessica speaks pretty much fluent Italian. If she was here,

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Speaker 2: she would say, I don't speak Italian fluently, and I

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Speaker 2: would say, no, you one hundred percent speak fluently.

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Speaker 3: That is so cool.

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Speaker 2: And so we would we talk to the owners every morning,

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Speaker 2: and they just fell in love with Winnie and they

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Speaker 2: would take Winny around the square that we were at

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Speaker 2: and introduced like to other business owners.

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Speaker 2: So it was just really fun. And then in the

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Speaker 3: Oh nice, I like it. So you weren't like trying

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Speaker 3: to hit a whole bunch of spots. It was literally like,

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Speaker 3: let's just make Italy our home for a week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of good because with a seven month old,

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Speaker 2: we figured getting on the train and going through all

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Speaker 2: these places would be difficult, and it was, and we

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Speaker 2: made the most of it. Cortona has incredible restaurants, some

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Speaker 2: of the most Michelin recognized restaurants per capital of any

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Speaker 2: good drink. We did a good wine tour. And when

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Speaker 3: How like child the time change, she slept through the

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Speaker 2: Jess can I didn't sleep through the night when he did.

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Speaker 3: How did you keep her on the schedule?

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Speaker 2: Just as soon as we got there, we're really starting

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Speaker 2: we put her down and from eight to seven every

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Speaker 3: That's sober. Do you know that. I got to celebrate

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Speaker 3: my first couple days of Haten sleeping through the night.

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Speaker 3: This week, at thirteen months, he slept in the night

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Speaker 2: That's wild. I mean, yeah, it's not anything we've done

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she was like born like that. Some kids are

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we got a good one. Scares me for

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Speaker 2: the future. But it was great. And she has some

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Speaker 2: No, she's not eating salad. But what she did start

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Speaker 2: so happy. We had a great Jessica explained it like this.

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Speaker 2: You go to Europe usually if you're from the United

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Speaker 2: did go to Florence. We were in Rome for a day,

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Speaker 2: in Cortona for six days. This was definitely a vacation.

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Speaker 2: It was slow, it was relaxing. I didn't do any work.

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Speaker 3: That's what we did when we did Ali and Greece

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Speaker 3: for our honeymoon. We legit did nothing except like stroll

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, I would tell anybody if you're in Italy,

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Speaker 2: go to Cortona. It's a really cute town. It's where

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Speaker 3: Oh no way, oh okay, so everybody knows how beautiful

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's the same. It's the same town that

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Speaker 2: She spends half the year there and then half the

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Speaker 2: year in North Carolina. Yeah, great trip. We're back. I

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Speaker 2: kids are getting back in the rhythm. So we hear

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Speaker 2: at the Almost Famous podcast. We have a big week

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Speaker 2: ahead of us. We're talking about the finale of Bachelor

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Speaker 2: and Paradise today and then I will be heading to

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Speaker 2: about their experience in Paradise, what life looks like now

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Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of fun. It's gonna be a

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Speaker 2: little contentious because we did I think in all love

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Speaker 2: So we have a lot of good questions to see

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Speaker 2: if they're actually mad at us or not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like Jerry's gonna hate us.

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Speaker 2: Jeremy is gonna be a good one. I want to

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Speaker 2: talk to him.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, are you talking to Jeremy and Dale

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Speaker 3: who both have given children.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean I feel like both of it

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Speaker 2: was in good fun. Jeremy, like if he's going to

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Speaker 2: going to be mad at me for questioning his choice

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Speaker 2: of swapping gum and he you can be mad about that, then, like,

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Speaker 2: please do, buddy, Like I really want to have that

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Speaker 2: no personal attack on you.

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Speaker 3: But you know that we were like hard on him

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Speaker 3: about just trusting him in general with Bailey and Susie

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Speaker 3: and feeling that he is making the right joy.

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Speaker 2: Who wasn't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess he wasn't.

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Speaker 2: Who wasn't questioning it? I think we have a lot

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean that we're not there yet, but you're

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Speaker 2: We're already there. We've been past that. That was in

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, well, I mean okay, So just to like

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think there's no standard. This is a

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Speaker 3: But I don't believe that because I don't think that

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Speaker 2: I do because I think at this point it turned

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Speaker 2: I want it to be about love. I watch it

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Speaker 3: It's not a coincidence that the two that have said

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Speaker 3: I do think like, honestly, the show production, whatever you

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Speaker 2: This challenge is such a crucial part to the show.

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Speaker 2: I wish the show actually would have communicated a little

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Speaker 2: I mean that's the finale. I mean, I know we

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Speaker 2: That challenge is so vital to getting through not only

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Speaker 2: I thought it was a great challenge. I enjoyed it,

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Speaker 2: to secure me at least whatever was in those envelopes

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Speaker 3: I like the way that the couple that won, Alex

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Speaker 3: I don't know if like the game was rigged or

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Speaker 2: I don't think legally, Ashley, they can rig any of

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Speaker 2: Have that's just my thought. I don't mean legally, if

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Speaker 2: Yeah, could have. It, definitely could have. It was a

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Speaker 3: So let's continue with going to the fact that Andrew

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Speaker 2: Do you think that's how most people reacted?

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Speaker 2: If you take shots at me and you miss, it's

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Speaker 2: going to come back to bite you. I think there

440
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,200
Speaker 2: was an intention to get even here.

441
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, they like went home and did homework.

442
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 2: I just don't think that shows well. I don't think

443
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,360
Speaker 2: people respond to that well. I don't think Kat comes

444
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 2: out of this unscathed because we've seen the rumors of

445
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,960
Speaker 2: her having a boyfriend during the show and all those things.

446
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,199
Speaker 2: I don't think she comes out of it unscathed, but

447
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 2: I don't think Sean or Alicia comes out of it

448
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 2: looking like they were the Knights and shining armor.

449
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 3: No, they so obviously wanted to get revenge, and it

450
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 3: was like, what are you really trying to get revenge

451
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 3: on you? Guys just look really petty and like you

452
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 3: look like you kind of just want to ruffle feathers.

453
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 3: It was like they were getting a high off of

454
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 3: just making somebody look bad, and that was kind of shame.

455
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 2: Can you imagine the flight down there though, Like when

456
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 2: they get the phone call, hey, we're going to be judges.

457
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:13,439
Speaker 2: We need judges for this week there whatever, I'm just

458
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 2: whatever is leading up to this moment and the top

459
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 2: two of them talking about it and like the excitement.

460
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, that was grossy, That's what it felt like.

461
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 3: Like they were like, Okay, let's call so and so

462
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 3: at home and like try to like put these puzzle

463
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 3: pieces together so we can really deliver a bomb. And

464
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 3: they thought that everybody was going to go against cat,

465
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 3: but that's just not how it went because their delivery

466
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 3: was so because it was just like so kind of

467
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 3: ough that so, but let's let's also explain what it

468
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 3: is for those of you who haven't watched it. They

469
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,199
Speaker 3: say that Kat has brought a computer in, and we

470
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 3: had heard rumblings of something along these lines over the

471
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 3: past few weeks, not on the show, but like off

472
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 3: the show, people talking about this because Alicia has been

473
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 3: saying stuff like this, insinuating that she does not like

474
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 3: Kat at all. So they say that Kat brought in

475
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 3: a laptop and iPad whatever, and she has been corresponding

476
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 3: with an X of hers who like she still seems

477
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 3: serious with flirty with whatever, and is writing love letters

478
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 3: via email to him. Now, it looks when they're delivering

479
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 3: this message that Kat knows exactly where it's going and

480
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 3: she knows it's not going to be good. I know

481
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 3: that there's got to be some truth to this. She says,

482
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 3: it's not as bad as how she's making it sound.

483
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 3: She does admit that she went in without thinking that

484
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 3: she was going to find love, so she kind of

485
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 3: like kept her connections back at home. She's making it

486
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 3: seem like it wasn't like a committed relationship that she

487
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 3: was leaving. It was just somebody that she was continuing

488
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 3: a conversation like continuing a situationship with the way that

489
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 3: Dale handles this, being like I'm going to stand by

490
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 3: her side right now. I can't tell whether that's truly

491
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 3: Dale just being like wow, like he's a good stand

492
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 3: up guy and he's going to stand by his woman,

493
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,400
Speaker 3: or he's like the cameras in front of me, I'm

494
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 3: going to do everything that I can to look like

495
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 3: a night in shining armor in this situation. It could

496
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 3: be a combination of both. But he does a great job.

497
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 3: He looks like he's showing a lot of loyal to

498
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 3: in dedication to Kat, and I applaud him.

499
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 2: I applaud him. I think it would have been easy

500
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 2: to stand there and defend her, especially when he said

501
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 2: I don't care what happened last Paradise and they said, no,

502
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 2: this is happening right now, and you saw it on

503
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 2: his face. Yeah, I think it hurts the ego. I

504
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 2: think it's a shock. I don't know how anybody responds

505
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 2: to it well, but he did, and I have to

506
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 2: give him that credit. It is interesting that she won't

507
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 2: talk to Dale about it on camera. Yeah, to me,

508
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 2: it does hint at yes something as they and that

509
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 2: it seems like such a difficult maybe giving the benefit

510
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 2: of the doubts of the situation, maybe such a difficult

511
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 2: story to kind of unpack that she doesn't feel like

512
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 2: she could do it fairly on camera, and so she

513
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 2: wants to talk to him off camera away from it.

514
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 2: It doesn't look good, I don't think on anybody. But

515
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 2: it is the shocking moment of the episode where all

516
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 2: of a sudden, I'm sitting here in my seat going goodness,

517
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 2: not everything has changed, but they're going home. There's no

518
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: question to me that they're going home. You can't, Yeah,

519
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 2: but Ashley, I do want to know. I do know

520
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 2: the judges voted on the couples, but Sean and Alicia

521
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 2: were really the only moment we saw where there was

522
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 2: like an inquisitive nature to these judges. I think the

523
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 2: show hoped that the judges would come in and really

524
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 2: speak into each of these couples, interrogate these couples, figure

525
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 2: out what couples are there for the rest reason. Yeah,

526
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 2: we really only see Sean and Alicia do what they

527
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: did and then they're done. Sean even says it, I'm done.

528
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 2: This is all I came here for.

529
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 3: I think that that ruffled so many feathers that they

530
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 3: didn't even need to have the conversations because it was

531
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 3: kind of like the obvious choice is that Cat and

532
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 3: Dale probably do not deserve quote quote to be there

533
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 3: anymore because, like you know, they may not be as

534
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 3: authentic as a couple as we thought it.

535
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 2: It's a very pivotal point in this season, and I

536
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 2: think it doesn't it definitely goes notice because the show

537
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 2: focuses on a lot, It's going to be a very

538
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:40,360
Speaker 2: controversial moment. Also for this episode, I think the viewership

539
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 2: has a very had a very strong reaction to Sean

540
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 2: and how he handled himself on the episode that he

541
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 2: was then let go on. I'm assuming there'll be a

542
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 2: similar reaction to this situation, but like I said, I

543
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 2: don't think either of them come out unscathed. It did

544
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 2: feel I don't know, I don't know if there's a

545
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 2: better way to do it. I'm sure the show wanted

546
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 2: them to do it in front of everybody else, but

547
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 2: it did feel really weird having it done in front

548
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 2: of the peers and not at least one on one.

549
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 2: I also though think Sean's hurt, he thought he this

550
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 2: is still the situation. I don't get he thought that

551
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 2: Kat and himself were best friends, good friends.

552
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's also weird. Why was he so offended by this?

553
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 2: But like she's like, I don't even think we're with

554
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 2: that friend like friends. He would say he would have

555
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 2: died for her. I think it was his exactly.

556
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 3: Well, this is like so strange because as a viewer

557
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 3: of people who have had two seasons together, I didn't

558
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 3: even remember that they had another season together like that,

559
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 3: that they were there together. I knew that they were

560
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 3: both in Paradise before, but like, no, there's no monumental

561
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 3: friendship there. There's been lots of guy girl combination friendships,

562
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 3: like throughout Seasons of Paradise where you they leave, they

563
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 3: leave and you're like wow, like that's so cute that

564
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 3: like sister brother relationship. That wasn't one of them.

565
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 2: Well, let's add it to the list of questions that

566
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,959
Speaker 2: we're going to ask tomorrow. I'm gonna step in there

567
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 2: and I want to ask Kat or Sean why you

568
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: thought you were such good friends And if you weren't

569
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: such good friends, why did you believe it? Sean and Cat?

570
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 2: If you were such good friends, why did you say

571
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 2: you weren't. We're going to talk about it tomorrow, we'll

572
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 2: bring it up with them. We'll be there in person

573
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 2: with the cast of Bachelor in Paradise Ashley. The remaining

574
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 2: couples after Cat and Dale are then voted off, are

575
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 2: Andrew and Alex Justin Spencer. Still, that's it, that's it.

576
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 3: It's our finale.

577
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: That's our finale. That's question.

578
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 3: The question that's weird here is that all of a sudden,

579
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 3: now that it's the two of them, Jesse comes out

580
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 3: and he's like, so, oh, I guess he had said

581
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 3: this earlier. He said this the night before where.

582
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: He was like, sorry, let me interrupt you. Yeah, I

583
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 2: had a point earlier, and I need to make sure

584
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: I hit on it. Yes, please, my point to Keith

585
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 2: going home. I feel bad for the guy because he

586
00:29:58,680 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 2: had to show back up.

587
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, oh that was I thought when you said

588
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 3: make a note of that for later. I like that.

589
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 2: Poor guy.

590
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say the entire freaking series.

591
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 2: He literally voted himself off to get home early and

592
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 2: many has to be there till the end. I feel

593
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 2: bad for the fella. Anyways, all right, sorry, keep with this.

594
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 3: Worthy of feeling bad for him. So it was actually

595
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 3: at the Parliament night that Jesse goes one of these couples.

596
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 3: If you decide to have two couples go through the finale,

597
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 3: because there's a choice of just having Alex and Andrew

598
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,959
Speaker 3: being the only one in the finale because they were safe.

599
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 3: If you choose to bring another couple to the finale,

600
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 3: we're gonna now put the pot prize down to twenty

601
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 3: to quarter of a million versus half a million. It's like, sir, wait,

602
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 3: what like this? This seems like a tease.

603
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, this get all this guy really confusing for me.

604
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 3: I have a man for making up these money rules

605
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 3: as they went.

606
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 2: I wrote all the notes on how this game was

607
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 2: suposed to work, and it still doesn't make sense to me.

608
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 2: On how somebody was actually ever supposed to win five

609
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars.

610
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 3: No, if for some reason they decided that that couple

611
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 3: last standing because of the weight challenge was gonna, you know,

612
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 3: have the five hundred thousand dollars to win. I guess

613
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 3: the thousand is the only just but it did.

614
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 2: I literally wrote out each each thing on Okay, here's

615
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 2: what Jesse said on how the game would work, and

616
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 2: it still doesn't make sense. I don't know how somebody

617
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 2: gets five hundred thousand dollars. It's still a mystery to all.

618
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 3: Well, it would make the only thing that would have

619
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 3: made sense is like the Parliament wouldn't have sent another

620
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 3: couple to the finale, and then if there was only

621
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 3: one couple in the finale, that person, like one person

622
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 3: standing there could have chosen to take the five hundred

623
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 3: thousand and leave. But they would have still, I think,

624
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 3: been given the situation like you have five hundred thousand

625
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 3: making leave.

626
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 2: No, I am, you're not making sense. It's too confusing.

627
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 2: What we were told this whole season is there's five

628
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars that you can win. At the end

629
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 2: of this that five hundred thousand dollars is a mystery.

630
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 2: It still is to this day.

631
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 3: Du bet, you're being silly. You could have done it.

632
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 3: They could have done it. Apparently if they decided not

633
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 3: to send another couple into the finale. Who decided this

634
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 3: the parliament? They decided to send another couple aka Jess

635
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 3: and Spencer into the finale, how.

636
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 2: Would they have decided not to?

637
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 3: They said that you could decide not to. They said

638
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 3: you could vote no one to go through and then

639
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 3: just leave Andrew Alex there.

640
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 2: I bet if you asked Kathy, Keith, Faith, all these people,

641
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 2: if they understood that rule, they would say I had

642
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 2: no clue that existed.

643
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 3: And I didn't say that. He says there's an option

644
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 3: not to send anyone else to the finale. We all

645
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 3: knew that that wasn't going to be a thing.

646
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 2: I really don't know, Ashley. Either way, it's confusing for it.

647
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 2: So we have two couples remaining. They get to choose.

648
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 2: There's two hundred fifty thousand dollars sitting in front of them.

649
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 2: They can choose love or money. There's about three thousand

650
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 2: different variations of how this could work out. If they

651
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 2: both choose money, if they both choose love, if one

652
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 2: chooses love, there's.

653
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 3: Well, you know what those caveats are for. They wanted

654
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 3: to show that the show was still about love in

655
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 3: the end, because if both couple, if both people and

656
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 3: the couple said I'm taking the money, they wouldn't have

657
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 3: had the option to have the money. That they couldn't

658
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 3: have the money. So they were just trying to be like, listen,

659
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 3: you can't go out in the real world and be

660
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 3: a couple with money. That's what they wanted to avoid.

661
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 3: They wanted to avoid people saying like, Hey, I'm going

662
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 3: to choose the money, but then we're going to get

663
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 3: back together in real life.

664
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 2: I understand this, Ashulely, I do. I get it. I'm

665
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 2: just saying this is no longer a wine drinking show

666
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 2: at this point. We're doing way too difficult math for anybody.

667
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 2: Wine deep they lost me that they've lost me. I'm

668
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 2: still in on the show. I get the show part.

669
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,240
Speaker 2: I don't understand the money part and how you actually

670
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 2: get the money. Either way, these couples get to decide

671
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 2: let's keep it easy between love or money. Big really

672
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 2: like dramatic moments where we get to see the flashback

673
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: of their relationships. We get to see each person kind

674
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 2: of sweating it out. We see the man of the

675
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 2: relationship stand up and wait to see if his partner

676
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 2: also chose love. Both men, Andrew and Spencer chose love

677
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 2: over the money. To me, that's a very obvious choice

678
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 2: because there's no shot that this show would penalize somebody

679
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 2: choosing love. If these people were thinking through it strategically

680
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 2: at all, you would say there is no chance that

681
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: Bachelor in Paradise would give me zero dollars when there

682
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 2: was five hundred thousand supposedly on the table. Yeah, if

683
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 2: I chose my relationship over the money, that would be

684
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 2: absolute death sentence.

685
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 3: To this friend you're saying, you're saying that, like, there's

686
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 3: no way that I'm not going to make some sort

687
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 3: of money if I choose love.

688
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no way.

689
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 3: I was going to say, in a little bit of

690
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 3: an opposite way, if you choose the money, then you'll

691
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 3: never make any money off social media because you'll be hated.

692
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, unless you're Alex. I think Alex could have chose

693
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 2: the money, ever, but then like that.

694
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, all right, So this is what I was thinking,

695
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 3: especially knowing that Jess and Spencer were like on the

696
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 3: engagement tier and the two of them were not contemplating engagement.

697
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 3: I was thinking Andrew kind of. I think Andrew was

698
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 3: fifty to fifty on whether or not she should have

699
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 3: taken the money or not, because I think that Andrew

700
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 3: knows that if she chose the money he wanted her

701
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 3: to to relief that burden that is her student loans.

702
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 3: She said it was in the six fig ures in debt.

703
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 3: She was six figures in debt, so I was like,

704
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 3: you know what, Andrew being Andrew so sweet, such a

705
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 3: good guy, He's probably like halfway rooting for her to

706
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 3: pick the money and then like he's just gonna call

707
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 3: her in real life he would do that, because he

708
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 3: would do that.

709
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: I think he would. I do I just don't think yes.

710
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 2: I think you're right, Ashley. I think Alex could have

711
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 2: got away with it. I think we all would have understood.

712
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 2: I would have understood. I would have been happy and

713
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 2: sad at the same time because all of a sudden,

714
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 2: Alex is debt free. And Andrew and Alex are going

715
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 2: to be dating by the time we do our finale recap,

716
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 2: which again is happening this week, where we're going to

717
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 2: be sitting down with the Bachelor in Paradise contestants here

718
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 2: at the Almost Namous podcast, asking them all the questions

719
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 2: that you want to know, Ashley. They both choose love.

720
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 2: Both couples choose love. Then we get before we get

721
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 2: into the very emotional scenes that exist between the two couples,

722
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 2: there is a lot of laughter and joy and I

723
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 2: think like heartedness to them both choosing love. I think

724
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 2: it's solidifying their relationship. We have this envelope scenario. Where

725
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 2: As the celebration ensues, Jesse comes out and says, hey,

726
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 2: once again, let's make this a little bit weirder, a

727
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 2: little bit more complicated for all you watching. Not only

728
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 2: have you said no to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars,

729
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,959
Speaker 2: there's a chance you could still win the two hundred

730
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars because it's here on my plate, a

731
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 2: platter with an envelope. I want to know who behind

732
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 2: the scenes here at this point is going I got

733
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 2: an idea. We're going to present them with a platter

734
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: of in an envelope and they're gonna have to choose it.

735
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 2: That's gonna be how like the fans really want to

736
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 2: see this play out? Why not just give him the

737
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 2: two undre fifty thousand dollars It was already there. What's

738
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 2: we know? He has the cash in front of him.

739
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 2: Give both couples two hund and fifty grand let him

740
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 2: walk home free. Instead, they're choosing an envelope. I don't

741
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 2: understand what's happening.

742
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 3: Does get what? Now? We got your stereotypical and just

743
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 3: too expected for them to be like, because you chose

744
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 3: love both of you. We're gonna give you the money.

745
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 2: We're gonna take away sixty grand.

746
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 3: We're gonna save this though, thanks for thanks for letting

747
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 3: us fuck it this one. What the weirdest part is

748
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 3: that they just took like a matter of tens of

749
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 3: thousands away from each of the check It's very odd

750
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 3: to me. I don't understand why wey a balance. I

751
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 3: thought that was gonna make some sense there. And then

752
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 3: like the fact that Jess and Spencer get like forty

753
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 3: thousand more. Is that because like they took the plunge

754
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 3: and got engaged.

755
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they did get an extra pay day. There

756
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 2: was like a yeah, there was like a benefit to

757
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 2: winning the challenge. I forgot that. So now the show

758
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 2: walks away with giving out what like I think one

759
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 2: made one hundred and twenty, another made one hundred and ninety.

760
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 2: They've now distributed three hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

761
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 3: Three hundred and fifteen thousand, and they had five hundred

762
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 3: thousand pots supposedly, So.

763
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 2: Where does that go? Where does that go? I want

764
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 2: to know who gets the bonus? Jesse Wells Hannah who

765
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 2: here got the bonus?

766
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 3: Even in the episode.

767
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 2: Actually she doesn't get paid for it. Wells was Wells

768
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 2: in this episode. Yeah he was good.

769
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 3: He said he wanted to go home.

770
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we I actually I don't understand. Anyways, they

771
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 2: open up an envelope, really exciting for both of them.

772
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: They both are making over one hundred grand that it's

773
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,720
Speaker 2: nothing to scoff at. That's very exciting for both couples.

774
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 2: It is life changing in so many ways. I am

775
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 2: not mad at them for taking money. I am not

776
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 2: mad at the show for paying them money. I am

777
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 2: confused by the show still at what this five hundred

778
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 2: thousand dollars was and four and how you would actually

779
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 2: ever get it, or if it was always this carrot

780
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,439
Speaker 2: dangling in front of you as these poor people ran

781
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 2: through the journey that is Paradise.

782
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 3: Can we make fun of one more thing? Do you

783
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 3: think that each check of all three on each platter

784
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 3: had the same number or do you think it was

785
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 3: like they actually had good or bad luck in choosing

786
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 3: the on flip that they did.

787
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 2: I think it was all substantial. I mean I think

788
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 2: Jesse said these checks all have a substantial amount of money.

789
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 3: Said up to two hundred and fifty. I don't know

790
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 3: if I believe that one. I think that all the

791
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 3: checks are the same.

792
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 2: It would have been hilarious if they open it up.

793
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 2: It's like ten grand just to see, like I want

794
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 2: to see somebody's real reaction to like giving ten thousand

795
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 2: dollars for going on a show. What a great accomplishment. Yeah,

796
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 2: so many people, but I think there there'd be a

797
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 2: little bit of a huh yeah.

798
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 3: But so you guys got a real bargaet on this one.

799
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 2: We do see Jess and Spencer get engage, and here

800
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 2: at the almost hear this podcast, we celebrate love.

801
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 3: Yes, congratulations guys, very very happy for you. We're also

802
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 3: like really curious about the fact that Jess that morning

803
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,919
Speaker 3: seemed to not want to say yes but she did.

804
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 2: That always kind of makes me weird, Like I don't

805
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,280
Speaker 2: love how the show. The show typically portrays somebody feeling

806
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: that way. I don't love it.

807
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,239
Speaker 3: I don't think that it's even authentic, Like there could

808
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 3: have been some editing to that. They're usually probably it

809
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 3: or like they're you know, they have you say, can

810
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 3: you believe that you're getting engaged so or like soon

811
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 3: after meeting someone and they're like no, I really don't

812
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 3: know that I ever expected that I would do this,

813
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 3: and then it's like, but I would love to.

814
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't love it. I wish we could have

815
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 2: just celebrated them. I was worried that she was going

816
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 2: to say no actually to engagement, and she didn't. It

817
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 2: didn't feel like there was a question in her mind.

818
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 2: The two of them are happy and healthy and living

819
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 2: their best life.

820
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 3: But says that they're taking it slow in the subtitles or.

821
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 2: Who doesn't you should? I mean this, you took it,

822
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 2: you took it real fast already.

823
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 3: Let's say he wanted to take it fast because he

824
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 3: wanted to have kids in the next two years.

825
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, well maybe we'll have a Paradise baby. I would

826
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 2: love to see more drama. Yeah, you know I I

827
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 2: So far, the Paradise babies have been absolutely gorgeous, beautiful

828
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: baby Yours included Tanner and Jades, so many others. But

829
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 2: I'm hoping they are a couple that we can celebrate

830
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 2: for years to come. Ashley, this is the finale of Paradise.

831
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 2: We started out this journey critical, not necessarily of the show,

832
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 2: but we liked what it was. We got to see

833
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 2: taste of the previous Paradise. This season with the camping

834
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 2: trip and those types of things. I loved it. I

835
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 2: wish they would have spent the night and out there,

836
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 2: but that was a different episode for a different time.

837
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: We got used. I got used to, at least the

838
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 2: modernization of how they were filming it.

839
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, got used to it, for sure. But I also

840
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 3: think they toned it down. I think they went into

841
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 3: the editing room and were like, Okay, let's make it

842
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 3: a little slower.

843
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 2: I think they listened to us. I think they listened

844
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 2: to the almost famous podcasts and they said, Okay, this

845
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 2: is what they're asking for, let's do it. And I

846
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 2: think it benefited them in the end, because that's just

847
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 2: what we do here, we benefit people. As Paradise closes

848
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 2: with another season. Three main takeaways. My first one is this,

849
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 2: I overall enjoyed it. It was not it was not

850
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 2: a brutal watch for me. I did enjoy it. My

851
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 2: second one is this, and it's kind of two parts.

852
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 2: I think Jesse Palmer is doing a great job hosting

853
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: this show. I love Chris Harrison. I am obviously very

854
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 2: loyal to my buddy and who I think is one

855
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 2: of the best hosts of all time. But I think

856
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 2: Jesse Palmer is doing a great job, but Wells Adams

857
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 2: should be the host of Paradise. It's clear to me

858
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 2: than ever before, there was nothing Jesse did this season

859
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 2: that Wells couldn't do. And I guarantee you Wells is

860
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 2: so much cheaper than Jesse will be. So if you

861
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 2: really want to find five hundred thousand dollars extra, I

862
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 2: think there's a way to do it. I think Wells again.

863
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 2: My third takeaway is this, where was Hannah Brown? What

864
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 2: was she doing there?

865
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 3: To me? I felt really feel really bad, especially not

866
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 3: seeing her not being in this episode made it clear

867
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 3: that they send her home. Before this episode, they didn't

868
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 3: even say goodbye to her. The girl has been planning

869
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 3: a wedding, she had a book launch, and they like

870
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 3: brought her in there for absolutely nothing. She spent three weeks.

871
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 2: That's not a knock me saying that is not a

872
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,479
Speaker 2: knock on Hannah Brown. I love you. I'm just saying

873
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Speaker 2: why was she there?

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Speaker 3: Like, no, why was she there? Because like she didn't

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Speaker 3: they like wanted to make a role for her just

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Speaker 3: because like her name is so big, but they didn't

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Speaker 3: really carve out enough of a role for her and

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Speaker 3: I just feel like I felt bad because she gave

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Speaker 3: a lot of time to it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Ashley, what are your three takeaways?

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Speaker 3: My three takeaways? I think very much like you, I

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Speaker 3: felt it was enjoyable. The first two episodes were jarring.

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Speaker 3: I started getting used to it the third episode. Whether

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Speaker 3: or not like that is because they toned it down

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Speaker 3: because of feedback or whatnot, I did get and I

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Speaker 3: did get into it. I've enjoyed it much better than

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Speaker 3: the previous Bachelor season. I don't think they'll do it

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Speaker 3: this way again. They might use the same resort. I

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Speaker 3: think that we have two pretty solid couples, and Alex

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Speaker 3: and Andrew and Justin Spencer for sure, I could see

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Speaker 3: at least one of them ending in marriage. And then

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Speaker 3: the gameplay, I think I think that they can front

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Speaker 3: a happy medium. I think gameplay was actually really fun.

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Speaker 3: Whether or not like the money prize should I think

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Speaker 3: the money prize shouldn't be in it, but I think

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Speaker 3: like to show strength in couples, gameplay was good.

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Speaker 2: This has been another season broken down by the Almost

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Speaker 2: Famous Podcast. Paradise is over, but it doesn't mean we're

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Speaker 2: done here at the Almost Famous Podcast again, We're gonna

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Speaker 2: be with the contestants from Paradise, asking them all the

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Speaker 2: questions that you want to know, so please write us.

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Speaker 2: We will be asking them. We've been honest here about

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Speaker 2: our feelings on Paradise and the contestants and kind of

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Speaker 2: their journeys. We promised to always do that, and we

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Speaker 2: hope that these contestants will actually speak to us once

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Speaker 2: we see them in person tomorrow. Make sure you tune

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Speaker 2: into the last episode because the Bachelor did announce something

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Speaker 2: big the cruise ship. You can listen to the episode

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Speaker 2: that's already been posted to find out who's going to

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Speaker 2: be there, what this cruise is about, how long it's

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Speaker 2: gonna be, where it's going to be stopping, and why

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Speaker 2: you Yes, you should consider coming and getting a suntan

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Speaker 2: alongside the likes of just listen to the last podcast.

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Speaker 2: We'll tell you who's going to be there. Hey, this

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Speaker 2: has been Almost Famous podcast until next time.

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Speaker 3: I've been been, I've been Ashley and that we'll see

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Speaker 3: you next time and so we'll Ben, we love you.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for listening to another season of us recapping. Wow Bye.

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