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Speaker 1: Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe

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Speaker 1: with LaVar Aarings and rating Win and Jonas Knox on radio.

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Speaker 2: It's good to be back with my guy, LeVar Arrington,

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Speaker 2: one half of the hottest tag team in.

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Speaker 3: All the land, Black and Drag again. Yeah, baby, last

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Speaker 3: Lad's back.

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Speaker 4: Dang, what's going on?

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Speaker 2: So I have a question for you about the program? Okay,

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Speaker 2: do you think that AI was used to do the

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Speaker 2: scene where they spit in each other's mouth in the

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Speaker 2: locker room? Do you think that was that was available

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Speaker 2: back then?

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Speaker 5: You can think that was a real scene. Bro, Damn,

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Speaker 5: I think it was a real scene.

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Speaker 4: I swear to got him. I was reading for that.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm out see you guys. Find somebody else

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Speaker 2: on the gas.

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Speaker 5: Hey man, you know that it was the love of

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Speaker 5: the game. And I had never heard or seen of

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Speaker 5: anything so stupid, just so stupid. I had never heard

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Speaker 5: or seen anything like that. I was in the ninth grade.

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Speaker 5: I was going into my ninth grade freshman year of

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Speaker 5: high school when that, uh, when that came came out,

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Speaker 5: and I was just like, you know, I thought the

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Speaker 5: whole movie was super cool, and so that was one

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Speaker 5: of those signature moments. I don't know why. And the

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Speaker 5: craziest thing is is when you're younger, you're so influenced

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Speaker 5: by things like we really was like trying to do everything.

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Speaker 5: Now we never spit in each other's mouths. But I

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Speaker 5: did paint. I did paint a skull on my face,

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Speaker 5: and I did paint. We weren't you know, they were

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Speaker 5: the North Hills Indian. So I did paint an Indian

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Speaker 5: Indian face was pretty good too.

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Speaker 4: Only problem is the thing that they don't, you know.

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Speaker 5: Make very clear to you, Jonas, is that that paint

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Speaker 5: runs when you're in a real game and it's not

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Speaker 5: a movie like when it's the real thing, that paint runs.

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Speaker 5: So by the third play, I was like, you know,

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Speaker 5: rubbing my eyes like profusely to get the like my

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Speaker 5: eyes was just getting irritated, is all get out from

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Speaker 5: the paint, you know. So that was short lived. Had

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Speaker 5: to wash the paint off of my face and then

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Speaker 5: we were good to go.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I remember a junior year going into the

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Speaker 2: senior We were doing Hell Week back then, and I

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Speaker 2: remember one of the seniors as we were breaking because

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Speaker 2: back then it was the first three days we're just

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Speaker 2: conditioning shorts and T shirts. And then the third day

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Speaker 2: or the fourth day on Thursday is when you put

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Speaker 2: all the pads on you at hitting. And I remember,

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Speaker 2: we're doing we're getting ready to break on Wednesday, knowing

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Speaker 2: that Thursday is going to be the hitting day for

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Speaker 2: the first time. And I remember one of the seniors,

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Speaker 2: guy was such a douche. He just says, hey man,

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Speaker 2: little peace of advice for all you juniors. Better go home,

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Speaker 2: watch the program later tonight, and you show up tomorrow, you're.

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Speaker 4: Gonna get fed up. Okay.

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Speaker 2: So I didn't watch the program the night before, so

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Speaker 2: I didn't watch that. I still remember to this day.

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Speaker 2: So I remember I was like, what's he talking about?

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Speaker 2: So I didn't watch the program the night before, and

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Speaker 2: guess what showed up Thursday?

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Speaker 4: And I got fed up.

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Speaker 2: I got I got destroyed, absolutely destroyed.

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Speaker 4: So maybe what did they do?

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Speaker 2: They just like they were seniors, they were we were juniors,

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Speaker 2: and it was they were just teeing off. Man. They

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Speaker 2: were not they were not kind. So you know, it

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Speaker 2: wasn't like I was gonna do anything. I was tiny

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Speaker 2: back then. So what you know is what is what

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Speaker 2: it is. By the way, happy Father's Day.

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Speaker 4: How was the happy Father's Day to all the fathers

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Speaker 4: out there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: How was it? Had a really good time.

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Speaker 5: Man was was in Pittsburgh, Uh, doing the Carly Short Foundation.

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Speaker 5: Carly Short Foundation fun a guy left to raise money.

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Speaker 5: It raises awareness for gun violence and raises scholarships for

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Speaker 5: kids to go to school and and get educated. It

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Speaker 5: was really good. I was the MC of it. Jonas, Oh, yeah,

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Speaker 5: you know, it's it's crazy. I get horrible anxiety. I

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Speaker 5: have horrible social anxiety. And I was scared to death

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Speaker 5: standing up there. But I thought I did pretty good.

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Speaker 5: I pulled it off pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Damn, who are you? And how did you get over it?

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Speaker 2: How did you get over Uh?

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Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting my mom.

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Speaker 5: I didn't speak very well growing up, as some people

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Speaker 5: may allude to when they comment on how the show goes.

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Speaker 5: But if you could hear how I sounded when I

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Speaker 5: first started speaking to the media, I always tell the

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Speaker 5: story my mother. My mother took a interview that I did,

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Speaker 5: and we watched it and she said, do you like

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Speaker 5: the way you sound? And I said no, I don't.

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Speaker 5: I say, you know, And I had so many crutch words.

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Speaker 5: That was most of my language was crutch words, and

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Speaker 5: clearly I had a way heavier Pittsburgh accent back then.

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Speaker 5: I know people hear it now and say he says

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Speaker 5: words funny and different. Well, it's just a dialect. I

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Speaker 5: worked to get through it. But what happened was is

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Speaker 5: my mom said, every morning before I go to school,

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Speaker 5: stuff like that, instead of going to the other, you know,

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna ask you questions, you know. So my mom

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Speaker 5: used to make me look in the mirror. She would

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Speaker 5: ask me questions, and she would always say, if you

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Speaker 5: Like every time she'd ask me, she said, how'd you

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Speaker 5: feel about the game today? Or how do you feel

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Speaker 5: about going into the game this week? And anytime I

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Speaker 5: that process went on for like years. My mom would

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Speaker 5: ask me questions, I would look in the mirror to

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Speaker 5: see how I looked, and that was how I learned

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Speaker 5: to speak better. And so as I learned to speak better.

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Speaker 5: It made me more confident to be able to you know,

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Speaker 5: I grew up in the church, so you understand that

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Speaker 5: in the church. You know, my father was a deacon,

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Speaker 5: ended up becoming an ordained minister, so he's a social

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Speaker 5: And I asked him what worked for him, and he

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Speaker 5: basically just said, be yourself, you know, find a way

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Speaker 5: to be so authentically yourself that you don't feel as though,

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Speaker 5: you know, the things that you're doing or the things

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Speaker 5: He's like, it's not about if it's hitting home with

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Speaker 5: that was how I started to be, you know, beginning

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Speaker 5: scares the death out of me. It scares me to death,

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Speaker 5: but it's still it's still fun to take on the

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Speaker 5: challenge of being able to do it, even just talking

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Speaker 5: to people on the street, you know, going back home

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Speaker 5: would remember, you know, who I am. I guess I

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Speaker 5: got a distinct look to me, you know, I got

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Speaker 5: that big windshield wipe or forehead. So I think people

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Speaker 5: so to speak. At least this is in my mind,

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Speaker 5: But a lot of people recognize me, and I always

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Speaker 5: make it a point to have a conversation with anyone

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Speaker 5: who recognizes me. Like, if you recognize me and you

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Speaker 5: want to have a conversation, I don't do the whole

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Speaker 5: or you know, okay, thanks, all right, goodbye. You know,

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Speaker 5: I want to have an experience, just like they want

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Speaker 5: to have an experience, because it's always a kick in

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Speaker 5: the head when somebody recognizes you. It's like I was

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Speaker 5: so good at something that people chose to acknowledge me

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Speaker 5: or commit me to memory. Where if they actually see

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Speaker 5: me out, it's like, oh that's LeVar Arrington, which is

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Speaker 5: pretty cool to me. So I be wanting to hear

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Speaker 5: what they have to say as well, more so than

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Speaker 5: be wanting to hear it, because I feel like it's

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Speaker 5: pretty cool when people become a fan of you or

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Speaker 5: actually thought so much of you that they remember who

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Speaker 5: you are for good things, not bad things. So that

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Speaker 5: was how I learned how to talk and speak much

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Speaker 5: better than what I did, and it gave me the

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Speaker 5: confidence my mommy. My mom gave me the confidence to

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Speaker 5: be able to stand up in front of people and talk,

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Speaker 5: and so I do pretty well.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome. That's actually a good, good method method.

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Speaker 4: When you get broken in the.

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Speaker 2: Year and every time you go and do a crutch

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Speaker 2: for it.

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Speaker 4: Just stop.

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Speaker 5: It's crazy because what you don't realize is using crutch

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Speaker 5: words takes the same amount of time that it does

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Speaker 5: to just stop and think about what you want to

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Speaker 5: say next. It feels like an eternity right you say

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Speaker 5: so long, But it's really not. Once you realize that,

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Speaker 5: it's not a whole lot of time that lapses. Which,

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Speaker 5: by the way, if you're speaking and you're being interviewed,

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Speaker 5: they'll wait, you know, if you take a little bit

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Speaker 5: of time, they'll wait. I'd rather you say I answered,

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Speaker 5: I speak slowly versus say I speak fast and say

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Speaker 5: like you know, in so many different crutch words during

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Speaker 4: So it was it was super effective. It did, it did.

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Speaker 5: My mom did an excellent job, and she was an educator.

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Speaker 5: Three degree educator, you know, degrees from Central State, degrees

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Speaker 5: from Duquesne University, very well educated and very very very

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Speaker 5: skilled at teaching. And she did a great job with

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Speaker 5: teaching me how to speak. Because if you would have

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Speaker 5: hurt me in the eighth from from third grade to

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Speaker 5: eighth grade, ninth grade, if you'd have hurt me speak,

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Speaker 5: you'd have been like, dude, I had as much Pittsburgh

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Speaker 5: slang as you could possibly have in terms of speaking.

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Speaker 2: So also, something your dad mentioned about the be yourself.

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Speaker 2: If you're yourself, you got nothing to worry about as

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Speaker 2: far as having stage fright or public speaking or anything

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Speaker 2: like that. It's the same thing as tying your shoes.

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Speaker 2: If it's natural, you don't remember doing it. If you've

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Speaker 2: done it so much that just becomes part of the

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Speaker 2: day and it becomes natural. You don't remember. Oh you

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Speaker 2: tire your shoes yesterday. Yeah, but I don't remember. I

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Speaker 2: just did it. Like, once you learn it, it becomes a

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Speaker 2: natural action.

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Speaker 4: And so when you're.

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Speaker 5: Talking about such an exhilarating experience when you first learned, to.

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Speaker 2: Tell you, I got arrogant about it too. I went

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Speaker 2: double knots. I still go double knots just to show people. Okay,

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Speaker 2: it's the bunny ere wrap it around. Just my ass.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing it twice. I just learned this. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 2: like learning how to cook. What are you gonna make

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Speaker 2: grilled cheese? Grilled cheese? My ass?

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Speaker 5: Look here, I felt myself go up five pounds yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Well listen, it's going to be a fun show here

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Speaker 5: Yes here, the NBA missed Jonas. Yeah, they should have

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Speaker 2: Like you had an opportunity. Man, to your point, everybody's

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Speaker 4: So yeah, we was married to her. How many kilograms?

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Speaker 2: Lee've got issues?

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Speaker 5: Oh geez, I don't even ask about that. I don't

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Speaker 4: Save that one for today. I didn't want to send

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Speaker 2: I don't know if this I don't know if this

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Speaker 4: Hear me out? I don't see this. I don't see

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Speaker 2: Here. I'll help you out, yeah, Lee, So so what

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Speaker 2: How do you want to explain this whole new uh

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Speaker 2: Well, I do know this. It is two pros and

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Speaker 4: I want to win a championship.

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Speaker 6: The legacy, the things, whatever comes after I've finished plan,

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Speaker 4: Be damned.

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Speaker 2: If Dak Prescott plays out the remainder of his deal

440
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Speaker 2: with the Dallas Cowboys by thirty five years old, he

441
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 2: will have earned around four hundred and thirty six million

442
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 2: dollars in his career. The Super Bowl can kiss my ass, goog.

443
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 2: Look the Lombardi Trophy. Hey, you guys have fun with that.

444
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 2: I'll take my near half billion dollars in earnings as

445
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 2: a Dallas Cowboys quarterback, and I'm good with my legacy. Like,

446
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 2: forget about super Bowls. The guy's already won. He is

447
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 2: already one. He is good to go. Deal with the criticism.

448
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 2: He's just gonna keep cashing checks for the rest of

449
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Speaker 2: his life.

450
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 5: You know, I think once people comprehend and realize and

451
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 5: I listen, I understand this.

452
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 4: Whole fear market value deal.

453
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Speaker 5: We had the conversation about Hendrickson and him getting compensated

454
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 5: more but based upon his ability to get to the

455
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 5: quarterback and lead in the league in sacks. But just

456
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 5: like in this scenario here what you're talking about, you

457
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 5: start to realize when you're not playing the game of football,

458
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:55,439
Speaker 5: there's very few of us that transition into another gig

459
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 5: that pays the amount of money you make playing the game.

460
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 5: And I mean, like you could be you could be

461
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 5: making really really good money in your post career life

462
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 5: and it doesn't compare to what you were making when

463
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 5: you were playing playing the game of football. And so

464
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 5: to me, it's like when all else fails, I'm not

465
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 5: wasting a year. It's just me just just on the

466
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,880
Speaker 5: other side of knowing that. And listen, I like to work,

467
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 5: So it's not that I need to. It's like I

468
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 5: just like to work and I like doing media. But

469
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 5: still the idea of being able to generate, make a

470
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Speaker 5: lot of money, do well for yourself, and and a

471
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Speaker 5: profession that you're in.

472
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Speaker 4: Man, the lowest.

473
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 5: Paid cats in the league are highest paid cats in

474
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Speaker 5: regular society. The lowest paids, you know, the minimum wage guys,

475
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 5: they are They are pretty well compensated. It's not crazy money.

476
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 5: But when you hear money like this, what Dak Prescott

477
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 5: has made and has been able to be able.

478
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Speaker 4: To earn, you know, it's just.

479
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Speaker 5: You're proud of the fact that athletic ability can actually

480
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 5: lead to you generating that type of income. And I

481
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 5: take that at face value. I say, when somebody's able

482
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 5: to get to a contract like that, it would be

483
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 5: nice to have a legacy where you're remembered as a

484
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 5: Hall of Famer or one of the greatest ever. But

485
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 5: make no mistake about it, Like you said, Jonas, I'll

486
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 5: be just fine hanging out poolside beachside with my toes

487
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 5: in the sand, doing what I want to do, if

488
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 5: that's what I so choose want to do, you know,

489
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Speaker 5: in my post career or even during my career. So

490
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 5: you know, it's a lot of money, and there's a

491
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 5: lot of reasons to be happy even if you don't

492
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Speaker 5: get to the pinnacle of the sport.

493
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 2: Like, think about it this way. So he's thirty five,

494
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 2: We'll just fast forward. He's thirty five years old and

495
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 2: some Jay Off and a Cowboys jersey starts, you know,

496
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 2: giving him the business talking about, oh, you never won

497
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl. You were disappointment, We should have done more, this, this, this,

498
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 2: and this. Like if you're Dak Prescott, you just look

499
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 2: at this guy and go, dude, I'm not even forty

500
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 2: yet and I've literally got four hundred plus million dollars

501
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 2: in the bank. By the way, that's just careering, salary wise, endorsements, marketing.

502
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 2: And he's a Cowboys quarterback. You know what that means

503
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 2: on the back end of his career. We've seen what's

504
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 2: happened with Cowboys quarterbacks going into broadcasting, former Cowboys players

505
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 2: going into broadcasting. So this idea of well, you know,

506
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 2: his legacy and what does this mean for Dak moving forward?

507
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 2: The reality is they're not winning a Super Bowl while

508
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 2: he's there, And I don't put that necessarily all on him.

509
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 2: There's a lot going on. There's always chaos. It seems

510
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 2: like there's always dysfunction. The way they handle the McCarthy

511
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 2: stuff the way they handle some of their other contracts.

512
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 2: If you're Dak Prescott, okay, sweet, I didn't want a

513
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 2: super Bowl. Okay, you know what A so so Nick

514
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 2: Foles has won a super Bowl. All these other guys

515
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 2: that want a super Bowl. I've never been to a

516
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 2: super Bowl. Okay, cool, I'm fine. If I want to,

517
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 2: I'll just go buy a super Bowl.

518
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 4: Okay.

519
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 2: Look, maybe I'll never go to the Hall of Fame.

520
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 2: I could probably buy the Hall of Fame if I

521
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 2: wanted to, I could probably buy.

522
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Speaker 5: I can't your point, to your point, there's probably more

523
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 5: than enough dude you could shake a stick at and

524
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 5: they would trade the Hall of Fame for Dak Prescott's

525
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 5: earning one hundred Hey, do you still want to be

526
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 5: in the Hall of Fame or would you trade it

527
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 5: for four hundred mili? I mean, how many of them

528
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 5: dudes you think are in the Hall of Fame. That'd

529
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 5: be like, uh, take that bus, melt it down, shove

530
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 5: it up your you know what, I'm taking the money,

531
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 5: you know. And there's some guys, now, listen, there are

532
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:19,959
Speaker 5: some guys that are truly prideful. And there's not a

533
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 5: price tag. You can't put a price tag on accomplishment.

534
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 5: You you really can't, especially when it's it's something that

535
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 5: you've done in your past. So there's something to be

536
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 5: said about living in a place. And I know this

537
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 5: because I'm in the College Football Hall of Fame. There's

538
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:44,719
Speaker 5: something to be said about creating a legacy, creating memories

539
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 5: that your family that you will never meet in the future.

540
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 5: You'll never meet them. You will be long gone, you'll

541
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 5: be far gone from here, but somebody will be saying,

542
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 5: that's your great great great great granddad. You know that

543
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 5: that was he did. He did that, So to me,

544
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 5: there's value there. But damn four hundred million.

545
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 2: Listen, I got news for you.

546
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to think about it. I'm gonna have

547
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:10,719
Speaker 4: to think about it.

548
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 5: Like, hey, great great great great great great unborn grandchild.

549
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 5: Just know, great great great great great great granddad was

550
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 5: really good at football. And if you don't, don't worry

551
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,719
Speaker 5: about it. But you know that that car that you're driving,

552
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 5: that Tonka truck that you have, that came from the

553
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 5: trust fund from your great great great great great great

554
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 5: great granddad that set it up for somebody that was

555
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 5: along the way along the line to getting to you.

556
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 2: Listen. I don't look. I don't know my great great

557
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 2: great granddad. I never met him. He might have been

558
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 2: an alcoholic. I have no idea, but I know this,

559
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 2: but if he was a Hall of Famer, I'd be like, man,

560
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 2: that's awesome. Can I get a hundred bucks? I mean,

561
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 2: can I get some cash please? You know, I'd like

562
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 2: to pay my bills, Like, can I get some money?

563
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, I just I think sometimes sometimes and to

564
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 2: your point on this, I think sometimes we get lost

565
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 2: in this. Well, he's got to he's got to win this.

566
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 2: He's got to do that first. It's like, no man

567
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 2: like the idea that you can play a kid's game

568
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: and walk away from it, hopefully with all your faculties

569
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 2: and with the amount of comfort that you're able to

570
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 2: live with not only for you, but all the people

571
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 2: everybody in your orbit, all the family members, the people

572
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,479
Speaker 2: that struggled with you coming up. That's a win, man, Like,

573
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 2: that's your super Bowl in reality. As much as people

574
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 2: don't like it, that's what it is. In my mind.

575
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 5: You start to realize that when you're not making it anymore.

576
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 5: Every once in a while, I'll be looking at my

577
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 5: my like my check stubs and stuff like that. I'd

578
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 5: be like, WTF. I remember a time I looked at

579
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 5: that stub and I just kept going zero zero zero

580
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 5: zero zero. Now it's like there, Damn, that's it.

581
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 4: That was it. That was it.

582
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 2: Hey, this printer run at ink O.

583
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Speaker 1: Heay be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros

584
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington,

585
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: and Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am

586
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

587
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 2: We are going to catch up with Michael Rubin, the

588
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 2: Fanatics CEO, who's going to be joining us here in

589
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: just a couple of moments from now. Lots to talk

590
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 2: to him about, including Fanatics Fest, which is a giant

591
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: event that is taking place. We'll give you all the

592
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: details and all the information on that. But anybody who's

593
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: shopped for sports apparel online over the last X amount

594
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 2: of years, you've probably done it on Fanatics. I mean,

595
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 2: like their growth and their reach is incredible, what they've

596
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 2: done and what they've been able to do. And right

597
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 2: now joining us here is Michael Rubin, the Fanatic CEO. Michael,

598
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 2: thanks so much for the time. Good morning to you.

599
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 7: Absolutely, what's happening, guys?

600
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Speaker 4: How you doing good? We are good.

601
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Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you this because I was just

602
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: mentioning anybody who's bought you know, sports apparel or anything

603
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 2: over the last X amount of years has probably done

604
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 2: it through fanatics. The reach, the growth that you guys

605
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: have seen is amazing. But going back to the early days,

606
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 2: because you've been successful with a lot of things that

607
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 2: you've done throughout the course of your career, and we're

608
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Speaker 2: going to touch on fanatics vests as well too, but

609
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 2: what did the early struggles look like for you when

610
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: you were trying to build something and get to this point?

611
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 2: What was what were those days like for you?

612
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Speaker 7: Well, first, I want to say, I feel like I'm

613
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 7: still building a startup even though today we're twenty two

614
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 7: thousand people in a pretty global business. We kind of

615
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 7: act on the start. We stay paranoid, we stay hungry,

616
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 7: we stay humble. But for me, like I'm fifty two now,

617
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 7: I've been at this since I've been eight years old,

618
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 7: so forty four years. I mean, I've had a thousand

619
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 7: epic failures. You know, That's part of life, man, that's

620
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 7: part of going different When you play sports, you know, Yeah,

621
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 7: you run into a wall. Things don't go the way

622
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 7: you want to. And that's been my journey. Man. I

623
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 7: almost went bankrupted sixteen hundreds of thousands of dollars, had

624
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 7: creditors shown up at my house every day, and you know,

625
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 7: to me, each one of those, you know, kind of

626
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 7: near death experiences that you know, I think I've had

627
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 7: up until maybe fifteen years ago, all night to the

628
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Speaker 7: next the next success.

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Speaker 5: Hey, what's up, Mike gets LeVar here man first and foremost,

630
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 5: crazy crazy man happy, Uh, excited to talk to you.

631
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 4: I'm doing real well. Uh.

632
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 5: First and foremost, I'm hurt that I haven't received the

633
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 5: invite to one of them white parties. By the way,

634
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 5: I have such a white suit that is very nice.

635
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 5: Uh shameless plug on on getting an invite.

636
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Speaker 7: Uh. Second of all, I had a few of those

637
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 7: during this process. But you know, you got to really

638
00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 7: be in training for that, Like you've got to be

639
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 7: strong and high, great endurance, the thirteen hour party with realcy.

640
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 4: What you're made of.

641
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know you well enough to know

642
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 7: whether you're built for that party.

643
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 4: Yes, dang well, I'll say this.

644
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 5: You do know Michael Parsons and and well, I played up,

645
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 5: played a pretty good played a pretty good role and

646
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,439
Speaker 5: making sure that he was in good enough condition when

647
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 5: when y'all ended up finally uh meeting and making acquaintance,

648
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 5: you know, you know, the whole Stick City family. You know,

649
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 5: I'll come bring the Stick City to the Sticks party,

650
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 5: you know, with the Ruben deal.

651
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 4: But anyways, that was a personal moment.

652
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Speaker 5: I just wanted to talk to Mike Rubin and say that,

653
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Speaker 5: you know, it felt kind of good actually, but uh,

654
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Speaker 5: talk to me about what what you got going on.

655
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Speaker 5: I mean, you have been able to really kind of

656
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 5: diversify and what it is that you're doing from content.

657
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 4: Offerings to the apparel.

658
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 5: It's like you have figured out how to to really

659
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 5: be able to capture different categories and different silos of

660
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 5: you know, revenue streams. Just talk a little bit about

661
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 5: what went into the thought process and the evolution of

662
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 5: what Fanatics has represented.

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Speaker 7: Sure, well, I think really what we desire to do

664
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Speaker 7: is take care of the sports fan with everything they

665
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 7: need digitally. And that's you know, we've really spent the

666
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 7: first decade focused on our fanguar business. We call it

667
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 7: finax commerce. It's what a lot of people know it's

668
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 7: the you know, we own fourteen hundred lid stores with

669
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 7: the flagship Fanatics website, we operate you know, many of

670
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 7: the leagues and teams, individual e commerce businesses and when

671
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 7: we've still got a lot to go there, I think

672
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 7: four or five years ago we realized that we could

673
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 7: really really re imagine the company's and digital sports platform.

674
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 7: And since then we've launched our entire collectibles and trading

675
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 7: card business, and we've launched our betting and gaming business.

676
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Speaker 7: And I think in everything we do, we start with

677
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,439
Speaker 7: the fan and say how do we make to better

678
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 7: for the fan. Now, that doesn't mean we've always got

679
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 7: it right. Sometimes we've now that we've knocked out of

680
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 7: the park. At other times, you know that we've got

681
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 7: to keep working to be better and better, you know,

682
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 7: in the bet in the gaming business. As an example,

683
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 7: when we launched we launched a better value proposition, we said,

684
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 7: how do we make this better for a fan? And

685
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 7: you know example that was like we went out and said, look,

686
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 7: we're going to give fan cash, which is basically free

687
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 7: money back and every time you bet. So next year

688
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 7: we're going to grant about more than a billion dollars

689
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 7: of fan cash, and you can use that to make

690
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 7: other bets, to buy merchandise, to buy cards, to buy tickets,

691
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 7: to go to lids, to go to tops, and so

692
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,479
Speaker 7: that was really popular, and we said that wasn't enough.

693
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 7: Just that alone wasn't enough. We also want to make

694
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 7: sure if any player got hurt during the fresh quarter,

695
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 7: we take the player out of the player prop bet,

696
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 7: And so we had hundreds of thousands of bets that

697
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 7: would have lost that would have won. The reason I'm

698
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 7: telling you this it was like the mindset of saying,

699
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 7: we don't want to be just another sports book. We

700
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 7: want to make it better for the fan. In the

701
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 7: collectibles business, we said, what are the problems we got

702
00:37:59,760 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 7: to sell?

703
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 4: We have people talking.

704
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 7: About, you know, huge redemptions that's like an io you

705
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 7: on a card, like if you to sign your card,

706
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 7: then you owe to the customer, and there are hundreds

707
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 7: and of thousands of redemptions. They're outstanding. There hadn't been

708
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 7: a lot of marketing, a lot of product innovation, so

709
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 7: everything we're doing is around how do we make better

710
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 7: for the fan. But today we have three primary businesses.

711
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 7: We have our fan gear business, our collectible and trading

712
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 7: cards business, and our sports betting and eye game of business.

713
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 7: And look, we've grown a lot. We were two hundred

714
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 7: and fifty million dollars in two thousand and we know

715
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 7: when I bought the company back in twenty eleven, it

716
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 7: will be close to twelve billion dollars next year. But

717
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 7: we still feel like a startup. We still feel like

718
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 7: we're just getting started. That's what's so exciting for me.

719
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Speaker 2: Michael Rubin, Fanatic CEO, with us here on Fox Sports Radio,

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00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 2: LeVar Arrington, Jonas NOx with you here on FSR. What's

721
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 2: been the most difficult part of your growth that you

722
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 2: look at and go this has been the hardest part.

723
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 7: Yeah. First of all, I think a lot of things

724
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,439
Speaker 7: are like we grind every day, like people always think.

725
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 7: You see things like our Super Bowl party of the

726
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 7: White Party, and I was like, oh man, Mike Wolban's

727
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 7: got the most fun life. And by the way, I

728
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 7: do have the most fun life. But where I spend

729
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 7: my time, it's working seventeen hours a day at the business.

730
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 7: It's not like you know, it's not like what someone

731
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 7: may see on Instagram or imagine. I mean, this is

732
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 7: really about grind now, it's no different than like, you know,

733
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 7: Tom Brady wants seven super Bowls, but that guy grinded

734
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 7: harder than anybody in the planet to get those seven

735
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 7: super Bowls. So you know, we're grinding every day. I say,

736
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 7: probably the most difficult thing is when you go from

737
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 7: one business to three businesses to make sure that you've

738
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 7: got so many competitors that are trying to, you know,

739
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 7: kill you, make it make it hard for you. But

740
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 7: I like that. I'd say if I did the one

741
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 7: most difficult difficult thing, it's Fanatics Fest. I mean, that's

742
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 7: what we're in the middle of right now. We're going

743
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 7: to launch fanatics Fest. It starts this Friday, goes for

744
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 7: three days. We're going to have more than one hundred

745
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 7: thousand fans come to the Javit Center that we took

746
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 7: over in the middle of New York City. And this

747
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 7: is a first of a kind sports festival. But what's

748
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 7: hard is getting every sport in the world to show

749
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 7: up at Fanatic Fest. To get I think we have

750
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 7: more than three hundred athletes, celebrities, artists, the biggest people

751
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 7: in the world coming to this. So you've got like

752
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 7: people like Jay Z and Travis Scott. You've got in basketball,

753
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 7: Wemby lebron kd Kat James Harden All coming in football.

754
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 7: We moved this from August last year to June so

755
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 7: we could have all the activant of all players, Guys

756
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 7: like Michael Parsons, your boy, who, by the way, he's

757
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 7: been talking a lot of smack about how he's winning

758
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 7: the financial games and taking the million dollars. We got

759
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 7: to see what he's made up. But you've got half

760
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,240
Speaker 7: the NFL starting quarterbacks there this year. You've got Russell Wilson,

761
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 7: Jaden Daniels, Taylor Williams, Bryce Young, Joe Burrow, you got

762
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Speaker 7: Brady Back. You've got so many, you know, the top

763
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 7: receivers here. So you know, I think just polling together

764
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 7: three hundred athletes, artists, celebrities all one place, all the

765
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 7: sports together, that is without question the hardest thing that

766
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 7: we do. But so we woudy when you see fans

767
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 7: that if they leave in tears, they're so happy they that,

768
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 7: you know, generations of a family coming together and having

769
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 7: such a great time. So for me, that's probably the

770
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 7: number one hardest thing I do. But we're grinders to start.

771
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Speaker 5: With, How are you able to do it, Mike, Like,

772
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 5: I'm just listening to you know what the fest is

773
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 5: going to represent. There's a ton of money involved that

774
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 5: the fans can win. They get that opportunity to do

775
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 5: things that only you could dream of, which is have

776
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 5: the you know, chance to compete against guys like for me.

777
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 5: You know, I think the next thing you gotta do,

778
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 5: you gotta get uh, you gotta get magnus. You know,

779
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 5: you gotta do like a chess tournament. I won't play

780
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 5: madness and chess, you know what I mean. But that's

781
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 5: that's a whole nother story you are able to want.

782
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 7: Right now, I don't want to get any details, but

783
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 7: there might be a chess surprise.

784
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 4: Of course we're going to tell you that.

785
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 7: I'm not going to give you any more details, but

786
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 7: expect the internet to break Internet to buy fight Friday

787
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 7: or Saturday when you see a little chess stunk going on.

788
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 7: We got one up our already.

789
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 4: You've got that sarcasm. I know that that it has

790
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 4: to be sarcasm.

791
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 7: And by the way, Michael Parsons is actually part of it.

792
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 5: Okay, Okay, well then now I do know it's true

793
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 5: because I definitely we definitely play each other.

794
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 7: Uh, I'm going against them, by the way, just because

795
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 7: I love against Mike in general. It's generally a fun

796
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 7: thing for me to do.

797
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 5: So it is going to be a test master that

798
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 5: he's going to play a Graham. That's pretty dope. Uh.

799
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 4: How do you do it?

800
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 5: How?

801
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 4: How do you pull all of it?

802
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 5: You talk about how hard it is, it's so many

803
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 5: moving pieces just to deal with a handful of celebrities,

804
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 5: a handful of athletes.

805
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 4: How are you able to pull all of these people

806
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 4: together the way that you do?

807
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 5: How are you able to pull together the plan where

808
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 5: you can monetize it in a way where the fans

809
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 5: not only get an experience, but actually really have an

810
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 5: opportunity to cash in on it.

811
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Speaker 4: How how do you do it? Like? Is it your team?

812
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 5: Is it conceptually from you? Are you more of a

813
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 5: process guy? Is it more visionary? How do you pull

814
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 5: together a fest like this where it offers all of

815
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 5: the elements and celebrities that it does.

816
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 7: Look, it's a great question. I think the first thing

817
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 7: you need to do is dream You got a dream bag? Okay?

818
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 7: And for me, we were The idea for finac Fest

819
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 7: came from is I had gone to so many music festivals.

820
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 7: I had been to south By Southwest, I had been

821
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 7: to Comic Con. And then in the trading card business,

822
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 7: you have these trading card shows which I'd growing up

823
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 7: as a kid going to, and they got a really

824
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 7: big one called the National, which is incredible from the

825
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 7: quantity of people they get, but hasn't really evolved a

826
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 7: lot in the last thirty or forty years. And so

827
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 7: from my perspective, I said, why don't sports fans have

828
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 7: a sports festival? Like I don't get it doesn't make sense.

829
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 7: So many other industries have this, and so I'm just based, like,

830
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 7: we're doing this, and I had no fear whether it

831
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,879
Speaker 7: would work or not. So you know, I went out.

832
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 7: I got the guy who kind of ran comic on

833
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 7: New York and he joined the acts and we were like, hey,

834
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 7: we're gonna do the same thing that they do in

835
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,359
Speaker 7: Comic Con in sports. And you know, the reality is

836
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 7: if I keep this real. Three weeks before the first

837
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 7: one last year, I'm like, how do I get myself

838
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 7: into this? This is a disaster. It's so hard, like

839
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 7: do we really want to do this? Because you're pulling

840
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 7: out every you know, favor. You have to just bring

841
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 7: everyone together. But then you're like sports fans deserve it,

842
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 7: Like we got to do this, like push through. It's

843
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 7: no different than I'm sure you in the peak of

844
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 7: some of your you know, craziest moments. You know, you

845
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 7: don't know it's going to be, just you find a

846
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 7: way to win. And that's what we did. We have

847
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 7: seventy thousand people come to first year, and people absolutely

848
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 7: loved it, Like I can't tell you that the great

849
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 7: feelings that everyone had seen, all these happy fans, and

850
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 7: you know, for me, that was the motivation we needed.

851
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 7: So this year we came back. We said, you know,

852
00:44:58,239 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 7: we got to make it better. We got to fix

853
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 7: all the things it working. By the way, first year,

854
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:06,280
Speaker 7: lots of stuff weren't wrong, like our autograph and photo

855
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 7: lines were a disaster the way we set up the

856
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 7: first year. We went back and we re envisioned the

857
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 7: entire thing, and you know, like this year it's going

858
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 7: to be so much bigger, so much better. We're taking

859
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,919
Speaker 7: over the entire ability and a million squaret feet again.

860
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 7: You've got when you think about bringing like you know,

861
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 7: Jay Z and Trapp, Kevin Hard, you know, all the

862
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 7: starting quarterbacks. I rattled off you know lebron kd James Harden, Wemby,

863
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 7: all these guys in the same place, a Rod, Derek Cheeter,

864
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 7: you know, top top wrestlers, Cody Rhodes, John Cena, all

865
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 7: these guys together. It does take a ton, but look,

866
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Speaker 7: we've got a great team and we've just got a

867
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Speaker 7: commitment to making sure we make this as good as

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Speaker 7: we can. But we're never satisfied. Like I'm walking through

869
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 7: this thing from before it opens every day after closes.

870
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 7: I'm getting feedback from fans figuring out what we can

871
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 7: do better. And we love it. It's like a total

872
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 7: gid byck fivate. We lost lots of money on it

873
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 7: the first time we did it. We still losing money

874
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 7: this year on it. But it's a great marketing moment

875
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 7: for Finax. We show up in a great way. And

876
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 7: when you own the Internet for the weekend, and we're

877
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 7: going to own social media, not I think just on

878
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 7: brire Sight on Sunday, but I think we're going to

879
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 7: own it for the week because we have so many

880
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 7: incredible moments coming. That's also a fun thing for us

881
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 7: to do.

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Speaker 2: You can find more information at Fanaticsfest dot com. It's

883
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,720
Speaker 2: coming up this weekend June twentieth to the twenty second

884
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 2: at the Javit Center in New York City. As mentioned,

885
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm looking through the roster.

886
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 4: There's not a.

887
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 2: League that doesn't have a representative. There's i mean the

888
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 2: number of Hall of Famers, world champions, etc. That are

889
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 2: going to be there this weekend. Awesome event. Again, Michael

890
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 2: Rubin Fanatics CEO. You can get him on x at

891
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 2: Michael Rubin and go to fanaticsfest dot com for more

892
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:55,280
Speaker 2: information on the event. Cannot thank you enough man, Congratulations

893
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 2: on all your success and looking forward to this week

894
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 2: and that'll be fun.

895
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Speaker 7: I appreciate you. Thanks so much for having me. I

896
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Speaker 7: look forward to.

897
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 4: Sounds good.

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00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 2: There he is, Michael Rubin with us here on Fox

899
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. You just look at the number of like

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00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,959
Speaker 2: we will go to Super Bowl events and you'll see

901
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 2: a ton of celebrities and you'll see a ton of

902
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,439
Speaker 2: people at these certain events. If you just go through

903
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 2: the roster of superstars that are going to be there,

904
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 2: they did seventy thousand people as you mentioned last year.

905
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 2: They've got all that. But like you asked him of Ar,

906
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 2: like how do you pull it off? It just it

907
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 2: goes to show you like when people tell you, man

908
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 2: father times undefeated. No, no, no, hard work's undefeated. If

909
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 2: you work your ass off, you can accomplish a lot.

910
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 2: And he's worked his ass off and he's grown a

911
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 2: business exponentially over the past number of years.

912
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 4: Phenomenal. That's a great point.

913
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 5: And he's yeah he does, and people rock with him, man,

914
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 5: and listen that that that whole that's interesting because me

915
00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 5: and Micah play chess like that's that's our thing, is

916
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 5: playing chess. I used to really like bowling until I

917
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 5: broke my wrist. That would have been interesting. Yeah, right,

918
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 5: but yeah, I did used to bowl bowl quite a bit,

919
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 5: but I always have loved chess.

920
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 4: So I think he's going to play.

921
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 5: I think he's going to play somebody like that would

922
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 5: be crazy if he played like Caspar Roth or or Magnuson.

923
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 2: Didn't know, Magnets just lose.

924
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:23,720
Speaker 4: They just lost.

925
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, he got upset. I think it was like, was

926
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 2: it like a big upset or something like that.

927
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:29,439
Speaker 4: It was a big one. Yeah, it was pretty big.

928
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I was good. I'm not really much of

929
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,439
Speaker 2: a chess guy. It's too easy. I prefer checkers, big

930
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 2: checkers guy. Connect four. You want to get you want

931
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 2: to get that work, you can come find me and

932
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 2: connect for something along those lines. But when it comes

933
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 2: to chess, chess, yeah, it's just too weak.

934
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Speaker 5: Thing.

935
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

936
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Speaker 5: I was on my way into to uh Pittsburgh. I

937
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 5: was playing playing his game on on h on my

938
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 5: flight and it only goes up to fifteen you know.

939
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 5: So I'm playing and a fifteen year old Magnus and

940
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 5: I was close. I was coming close, and I just

941
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Speaker 5: couldn't beat them. Oh you fifteen year old fifteen year

942
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 5: old level.

943
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,919
Speaker 2: So you can play different levels of him in the game.

944
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Speaker 5: I'll whoop his ass at what is it, five years old?

945
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, whoop his ass, damn.

946
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 4: But I go up to the hardest level I go

947
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 4: up to.

948
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Speaker 5: He was actually qualifying to go to the World's and

949
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 5: compete and for a world championship, a world title at fifteen.

950
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,240
Speaker 4: So dude is a He's a phenom.

951
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 5: Like I mean when you say phenom, like literally like

952
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 5: people like him, the things that they're able to do,

953
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 5: the way they're able to see the board, the way

954
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 5: they're able to understand what moves are because and chess,

955
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 5: a lot of it is memorization. People don't realize that.

956
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 5: But it's memorization, like if somebody moves here, here are

957
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 5: here are the right moves to make. If somebody moves there,

958
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 5: here's the right move, and so on and so forth.

959
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 5: You can almost like kind of depending on somebody's approach

960
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 5: their style to playing, you can memorize a lot of

961
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 5: the game and so based off of the move pattern.

962
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 5: And so it takes somebody that's really good to be

963
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 5: able to get somebody to have to make their own

964
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 5: moves based off of thinking versus off of memorization of

965
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 5: if this, if the board looks like this, if the

966
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Speaker 5: person moves here, if they do this, this is what

967
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 5: you do. Like it's kind of it's just a crazy game. Man,

968
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 5: it's a crazy game because you got to be almost

969
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 5: like a computer, you know, like Magnus was playing a game.

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00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 4: I watched this ares a documentary on him. He did.

971
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Speaker 5: He played like sixteen professors or ten professors at Harvard

972
00:50:57,080 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 5: back like facing the opposite direction of them, blindfolded. He

973
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Speaker 5: wasn't even looking at the boards.

974
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Speaker 4: He had to.

975
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Speaker 5: He had it memorized so well. He could give you

976
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 5: the court and it's make the moves, and he made

977
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 5: it all of them Harvard Harvard professors, like legal guys,

978
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 5: just just very very intelligent people. He made it, all

979
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 5: of them blindfolded, not even looking at the board, you

980
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 5: know what I mean.

981
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 2: So he asked him to throw football and he would

982
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 2: go into convulsions.

983
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 4: Oh well yeah, yeah, you know, you smack him up. Now,

984
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 4: she smack.

985
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 5: Him body slamming, you know what I mean? You No, No,

986
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 5: he's a type of he's smart. He might fly away

987
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 5: or something.

988
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 4: No, you don't know.

989
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 2: Man, he's got he's got propellers. He's got a propeller.

990
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 4: He might fly away. Bro.

991
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 2: He's like, he's like the kid from Goonies who's always

992
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 2: got like a weapon on he's got he's got a

993
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 2: boxing glove.

994
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: On the.

995
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:02,919
Speaker 4: Gi What was his name? Gizmo was a guy from Kremlin. Yeah, yeah,

996
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 4: but his his name was something like that. Yeah. Data data, data,

997
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 4: data data, that's it. Wow, I want a nerd.