1 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden Hour. Thank you 2 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: again for joining us. We are excited to be back, 3 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: right Kathy. 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: We are and Susan. I gotta say, if all of 5 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 2: you out there have not done it yet, you're more 6 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 2: than late to the game. You've got to go and 7 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 2: follow our podcast so that you never miss a nast episode. 8 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 2: Just search for Bachelor Happy Hour in the podcast app 9 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: and hit the follow button for Golden Hour. 10 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: Please do it so we can talk to you and 11 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: find out what's going on in your world. But today 12 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: we're so excited, especially excited. We have a very very 13 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 1: very special guest and you know her and love her 14 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,480 Speaker 1: from Joey season of The Bachelor. 15 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: Hi Rachel, Hi guys, welcome to the podcast. 16 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: What's going on in your world right now? 17 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 3: You know, just busy busy, was work and kind of 18 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 3: navigating after everything, but it's been fun and creating at 19 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 3: the same time. 20 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: Do you love it? You had to love your experience? 21 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 3: I do. 22 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 2: I do. 23 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 3: It's obviously it all came out of nowhere and trying 24 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 3: to navigate my career on top of everything that happening 25 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 3: post show. But I mean it's I'm enjoying every moment 26 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 3: of it. 27 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: Honestly, you know, it was so special for me, Rachel, 28 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: to be able to sit with you and really really 29 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: get to know you. I think the world had something 30 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: to say about it as well, and they were all beautiful, 31 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: beautiful things. 32 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 2: I love you like one of my own. I really do. 33 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 3: My mom when she watched it, she goes you and Auntie, Susan, 34 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 3: you guys connected, Hanna said, we. 35 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 1: Did in a big way, a big way. 36 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 3: Like she's family, and my Mom's like, oh, she just 37 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 3: seems like she has the best energy. You know what 38 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 3: she does, She's amazing. 39 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 2: I would love to meet your family. 40 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 3: I owe you one. 41 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: And then our reunions of like women tell all after 42 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: the final verse, and they're always in these big places 43 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: with lots of people. I want you one on one, 44 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: I really do. We gotta go for coffee or our 45 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: meal or a cuptail and Kathy will join natural. 46 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to join in on somebody. This can 47 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: I come to. 48 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 3: You're always invited, So I want. 49 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 2: To know you just alluded at the top of the 50 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: show here about life after the show. It's a check 51 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: in for you. How are you doing post show? What's 52 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 2: going on? Yeah? 53 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 3: I mean, things have definitely gotten better for me since 54 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 3: I was getting that hate that I spoke about at 55 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 3: the reunion, things have definitely calmed down. The support and 56 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 3: love has been just I didn't expect all the support 57 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 3: to finally, I guess drawna all the hate. So it's 58 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 3: been very nice. 59 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: Which is a perfect statement. 60 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: We get so much love, but one negative or ten 61 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: negatives seem to weigh on us so much more than 62 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: all the love. Yeah, you gotta focus only on the love. 63 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: And you know what, we get it too. 64 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I say, Rachel, you you intimated that it was 65 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 2: some Rachel racial slurs coming your way. I mean, I said, 66 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: zip it, and you know I have paid, dear, I know, 67 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: really right, zip it for that. But honestly, since I've 68 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 2: talked a lot about this, what does it feel like 69 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 2: for us? It's just you try to ignore it, but 70 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 2: it's hard. It's hard. 71 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 3: I mean, it's definitely easier to ignore the the comments 72 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 3: like oh you're boring, or like Joey doesn't like you. 73 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 3: Those are obviously way easier, but when it comes. 74 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: They said Joey doesn't like you? 75 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 2: Are they Joey? 76 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: I mean, how how do you people say these things? 77 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 3: But Also, that's why it's funny, because that's just them 78 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 3: speculating off of an episode or off of me being 79 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 3: shown for five minutes. 80 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 2: You know. 81 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 3: So those were obviously easy to ignore. But when it 82 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 3: comes to things talking about just my culture, my family, 83 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 3: or my skin color, things like that, it can be 84 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 3: hard to ignore. But my dad's always told me to 85 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 3: never use discrimination as a crutch, and I've never wanted 86 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 3: that to be a reason to get sympathy from other people. 87 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 3: But it just made me stronger as a person and 88 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: just kind of realize that that's someone's flaw, that's someone's. 89 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 2: Definitely the high road for sure, for sure. So you know, 90 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: you you talk about we all know that, you know, 91 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 2: you and Joey definitely had a connection and he's now 92 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 2: classified as one of your exes. But yeah, do tell us, 93 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 2: we want to know what do all of your exes 94 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 2: have in common life? What's the what is the trait 95 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: that sort of come on? Good question? 96 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 3: Great, I know, because I mean Joey's kind of like 97 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 3: the favorite X right now, right like, there was there 98 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 3: was no you know, there's no no wrong doing on 99 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 3: either side. It was just the end of our journey 100 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 3: and that's the beautiful part about it. But my ex 101 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 3: is separate from Joey or. 102 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: Do they have anything in common anybody that you dated? 103 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 3: Sorry, they cheated kind. 104 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 1: Of like what Oh and he was doing it right 105 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: in front of your face, but. 106 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: That was allowed. That's okay. That's not a cheating suasan. 107 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 2: That's called dating on a TV show. Oh wow, so 108 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 2: they all cheated. How did you find out? 109 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 3: So two of I'm trying to so I would say 110 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 3: I had three serious relationships. They're great, I mean, separate 111 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 3: from my stating, they're amazing people. I never want to 112 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 3: talk bad about an ex. I think cheating is obviously 113 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 3: a personal choice, so you know, that's on them for 114 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 3: what they did. But I remember the one ex I had, 115 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 3: who I swear I was going to marry, like love 116 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 3: my life, first love. He was sleeping over my house, 117 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 3: which is a huge thing for my family, and my 118 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 3: parents were like, he can sleep over, just don't stay 119 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 3: in the same bed, never b downstairs in the living room. 120 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 3: But it was we kept PG, don't worry. 121 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: Your parents asked you have to. Oh, no, I respect that, 122 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: I get it. 123 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. But I got a brand new phone and 124 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 3: I asked him and I was like, oh, can I 125 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 3: text my new phone. I don't think it's working. And 126 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 3: I've never looked in someone's phone before. It has never 127 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 3: been a part of me. And something in the back 128 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 3: of my head maybe it was my woman intuition. Yes, 129 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 3: by telling me is like, just just look at a 130 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 3: text message. So when I opened up his messages, there 131 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 3: was like two unsafe numbers and the text were like, oh, 132 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 3: he looks so good. When can I see you next? 133 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 3: Or something like that out and so I just I 134 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 3: had ignored it. And then something else told me just 135 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 3: look at his instagram. I was like, okay, I've never 136 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 3: done that. Went on his Instagram and I went in 137 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 3: his messages and it was a girl that I knew. 138 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: Of who they were seeing each other, having some good 139 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: times but. 140 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 2: Doing the deeds. Wow. 141 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 3: Wow, he's amazing. His family is amazing. I'm so very 142 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 3: close to his family. It's a you know, we were. 143 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: Still okay pause pause pause, you're still giving him kudos 144 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: forfing around on you. I'm not telling you the truth. 145 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's not okay. 146 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, excuse me. You're the one that's always 147 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 2: saying I want to I want to crucify them. And 148 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: you're always like, Okay, let it go. Yeah, that's why 149 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: I'm saying, don't forgive him. Euro was saying, forgive Rachel. 150 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 2: You're doing the right thing. Forgiven, so I'll make you happier. 151 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 2: It's about you. 152 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 3: I've forgive him for what he did. At the end 153 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 3: of the day, it was meant to be. It wouldn't 154 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 3: have happened. I learned a lot about valuing myself and 155 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 3: my family through that time and kind of knowing what 156 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 3: I deserve. It was a tough time for me, but 157 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 3: we're both civil. I respect him, he respects me, to 158 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 3: respect our families. But yeah, I got just one of 159 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 3: the heart. There's two other ones with countraumatics. I just 160 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 3: feel like it's. 161 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 2: Just it's how old were you? How old were you 162 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 2: with that? You said it was your first love? How 163 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: old were you? 164 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 3: So we started dating senior year of high school, and 165 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 3: then we were together through college, and then we were 166 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 3: on and off for I think two or three years 167 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 3: after that. So from like seventeen to twenty. 168 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 2: Can I just say you sound exactly like my daughter dated? 169 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 2: Sorry call me. Oh she's married now with almost one 170 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: year old daughter married me. She is married. The best 171 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: man in the world if he had a brother, I'd said, 172 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 2: But that same thing happened to her, and I asked her, 173 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 2: so I have to ask you, do you feel like 174 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: that you wasted I don't like the word waste, because 175 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 2: I don't think any experience is a waste of time. 176 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 2: But do you feel like you missed out on some 177 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 2: of the college experiences because you dated him during college? 178 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 3: Oh? Absolutely not. I think I'm so grateful to the 179 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 3: racial relationship I had with him because it was just 180 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 3: a pure if we're separating the cheating, it was so 181 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 3: pure in the sense of, like, you know, when we 182 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 3: first started dating, we didn't have jobs, but he would 183 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 3: always provide, like take me on dates and pay for 184 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 3: my meals and open. 185 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 2: My door a gentleman. 186 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 3: He was a gentleman, and so I can learn. 187 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 2: Cheating gentleman a gentleman. Okay. 188 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: But one of the things that Rachel and I talked 189 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 1: about in Mexico was you being able to trust again. 190 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: Obviously it caused some trust issues with you, and for 191 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: you to be able to open up to Joey and 192 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: give him your whole self. 193 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. And I also I did speak with Susan 194 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 3: about this I've been in a relationship that was abusive 195 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 3: as well. So my track record, I mean it went 196 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 3: from my first life in high school he cheated on me, 197 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, it happens, and I went to 198 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 3: an abusive relationship, and so I really struggled with I 199 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 3: thought I trusted the right people, and then they would 200 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 3: always kind of spikee me in the butt at the end. 201 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 3: But and then when I went on the show and 202 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 3: I met Joey, and even though he wasn't my person, 203 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 3: the friendship that we had really taught me that I 204 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 3: can open up somebody and trust and everybody and trust 205 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 3: somebody and they can treat me well. So I'm still 206 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 3: working on that. I think I think I finally reached 207 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 3: a point where I know what I deserve. 208 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: As isn't that a beautiful thing that you got to 209 00:09:58,280 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: walk away with right? 210 00:09:59,679 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 3: Right? 211 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: So you're very close with your family, as you said, 212 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 2: And you know, I know most girls I did look 213 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 2: up to my dad, and I know you do to yours. 214 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 2: What what qualities in your dad? Like, what what would 215 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 2: you like to find in a guy that your dad possesses? 216 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 2: You know, what qualities? 217 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, besides the fact that he treats my 218 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 3: mom like an absolute queen. 219 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 2: That's enough right there for me. Treat me like a queen. Yeah, 220 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:34,719 Speaker 2: he does he have a brother. I'm always asking the 221 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 2: same question. 222 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 3: My dad comes from a family. There's thirteen fourteen, thirteen 223 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 3: kids fourteen. Yeah, he's nine sisters. 224 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 2: And always smoked. 225 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 3: Wow, I Know'm sorry. He's from a huge family. I 226 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 3: come from a huge family. So I guess his the 227 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 3: respect she has for his sisters just really shows, you know, 228 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 3: with how he treats my mom. And he's a girl dad. 229 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 3: He has three daughters, me and my other two sisters. 230 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 3: So the example he set for me of just how 231 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 3: patient he is with my mom and how he listens 232 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 3: to her and just the I guess in a traditional sense, 233 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 3: he's just such a provider and a protector of her, 234 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 3: and he also doesn't take away from her light as 235 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 3: an independent and strong woman. 236 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: You know, what's so beautiful that she is recognizing all this. 237 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: Nobody told her that, Nobody told her that she's watched 238 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: that grown up. And there's so many people out there 239 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: that come from broken families or abusive families and they 240 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: don't get to have what you just said. 241 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 2: That's beautiful and. 242 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 3: My appreciation from it comes as well, comes from the 243 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 3: fact that both my parents were divorced before they met, 244 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 3: so I do have a couple half siblings who obviously 245 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 3: consider my whole siblings. And so that dynamic of seeing 246 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 3: how they had to navigate through having a child before 247 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 3: they met and how we had kind of had a 248 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 3: blended family also showed me how strong my dad is 249 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 3: and how from my mom is too because they kept 250 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 3: us as close as Yeah, it just showed love all 251 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 3: the time. Obviously our family isn't perfect. Uh, we're kind 252 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 3: of crazy and we're loud, but. 253 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 2: The Italians come on, that's that's the definition of family. 254 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 2: But you know, I I someone told me this once. 255 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: Watch how a son treats his mother. And that's the guy. 256 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 2: He's going to treat you the way he treats his mother. 257 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 2: So you know, there's you can put that one in 258 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 2: your little book of We. 259 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:36,599 Speaker 1: Can't change that red flag, right, So I keeping you 260 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: can never make a red flag of white flag ever. 261 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 3: Ever. 262 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 2: So Rachel, tell me about your work. 263 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 3: Oh so we all know I'm a nurse. Yes, new information. 264 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 3: I actually had work yesterday. I'm actually so exhausted. But 265 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 3: I mean I absolutely love it. It's it's definitely a 266 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 3: passion of mine. I didn't think I would become a nurse. 267 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 3: My dad worked in trauma back in Hawaii at one 268 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 3: of the major hospitals there, so I kind of grew 269 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 3: up just hearing his stories and he would show me 270 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 3: pictures and I was like, wow, that's so cool. But 271 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 3: I hated school math and science. 272 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 2: Science. Nursing school is hard. 273 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: I know it's hard. 274 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 2: How my niece is going through it. 275 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you just told me. 276 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 2: That, but real quick, I have to interrupt. 277 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: You just pronounced to what how you I'm reading this 278 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: book that not a client, a woman that I renewed 279 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: her vows, and it's called aloha, and I knew aloha 280 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: was hello and go by. It has several other meanings, 281 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: so I never knew that. 282 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's love, love and also like because hog the words, 283 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 3: that's the breath of life, right, and so that's also 284 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 3: why we call like foreigners people who come to Way, 285 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 3: we call them howy. 286 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 4: But it's like yes, which means yes, yes, yes in 287 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 4: the book, I know I love this, Okay, I want 288 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 4: to ask, so I want to that is that's really interesting? 289 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 2: But since you know we're talking about dating, and God knows, 290 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 2: I need as much help as I can get. I 291 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 2: want to know, Rachel, would you ever date someone in 292 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 2: the workplace, a doctor? 293 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: That was my question, since you're in the hospital, nurses 294 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: and doctors do a lot of you. 295 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, are you. 296 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: Comfortable with that or is it because it's so big 297 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: that people wouldn't know? 298 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 2: Or how do you feel about it? 299 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 3: I what is that saying? 300 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: Don't don't don't don't ship? 301 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 3: So I'm thankfully because I'm a travelers. I'm usually at 302 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 3: one hospital for three months and I move on, so 303 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 3: it's not the worst thing in the world. But I 304 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 3: also love that when I go to work, it's my place, 305 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 3: it's my space. I'm doing what I enjoy. I don't 306 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 3: have to think about my partner being there. But I 307 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 3: would date someone who's in the same I guess career. 308 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 2: Field, line of work. 309 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 3: Right, Okay, that's something to talk about, I guess. 310 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: But how about any fears going back into the dating world, 311 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: And what is something about love that scares you? 312 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 3: I'm honestly not terrified about love. I love being in love. 313 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 3: I think everyone loves to be in love. Everyone wants 314 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 3: to know that someone loves them. I think it's such 315 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 3: a beautiful part of life, and that's and that's how 316 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 3: the world goes around in a sense. But I mean, 317 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 3: I'm not scared of love, but I am nervous, and 318 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 3: pardon me, is nervous to get back into dating because 319 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 3: I don't know that people would think me being on 320 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 3: a dating. 321 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 2: Show that have a whole new impression of it right. 322 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 3: In a different way. Maybe if they watch the show, 323 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 3: they'll realize that I just am complete the same on 324 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 3: TV and off TV. But I'm really open to anything. 325 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 3: I just hope people know that my standards may make 326 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 3: me look picky, but I'm. 327 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 2: Just not never settle, Rachel, never settle. 328 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: That's so important that she just said that, because my 329 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: standards have to being on the show. Now, I'm being 330 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: really true to myself before, like you always teach me 331 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: about the red flag and I make it yellow and 332 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: slide through and realize how many months later I'm not happy, 333 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: But now I know very good. 334 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 2: And then there's me who never settles, And then I 335 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 2: wonder why I can't get a date, you know, because 336 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 2: I'm looking for perfection all the time. But I want 337 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 2: to ask you, Rachel, so obviously Susan and I were 338 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 2: on the Golden Bachelor, and we were the first ones 339 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 2: to do that show, so we don't have the years 340 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 2: of experience that the younger Bachelor and Bacheorettes have. So 341 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 2: I want to know. I know you have a lot 342 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: of good friends from from the show, Joey, you know 343 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 2: from the other shows, but what couple is your idea 344 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: of a really good relationship, the relationship goals that you'd 345 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 2: like to meet. 346 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 3: I absolutely love Serena and Joe. 347 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean who does. 348 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 3: They're a durable Also, I'm so new to this whole Vacherination. 349 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 3: I'm slowly starting to learn about everybody. So my best 350 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 3: friends were kind of educating me on Vacherination. But when 351 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 3: I finally met Surena and Joe, they are just so 352 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 3: me and pure. And I think some people are skeptical 353 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 3: of this process and of this whole idea of being 354 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 3: on a reality show to date, but when you look 355 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,920 Speaker 3: at Suena and Joe, I mean, it's just so apparent 356 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 3: that it can where it works and person and the 357 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 3: maturity love that you're at when you go into this. 358 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, Rachel, you shared with me that you weren't 359 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: allowed for your hometown to go to your actual hometown. 360 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: Tell me what a hometown date in Hawaii would have 361 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: been like. 362 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 3: That would have been nuts. 363 00:17:56,040 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: I like it now, not just any date we were 364 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 2: want to hear the perfect dream date, Rachel. 365 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 3: Perfect dream date in Hawaii. Okay, So my favorite place 366 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 3: on my island is the North Shore. So I would 367 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,479 Speaker 3: have loved to go to my favorite beach, which is Sunset. 368 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 3: I used to skip school and go there all the time, 369 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 3: and I would go to this there's this sandwich top 370 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 3: that's just nostalgic for me. And it's also in the 371 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 3: North Shore. So I would have spent the whole day there. 372 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 3: And it's very grounding when you go to a place 373 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 3: that you were actually raised, because that's just a huge 374 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 3: part of who you are. Yeah, it's your roots. And 375 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 3: Hawaii beings so beautiful and so rich, kind of like 376 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 3: a melting pot, I guess of the Pacific. I just 377 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 3: wanted to immerse him in that. But I also wanted 378 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 3: him to come to my house that I was raising 379 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 3: because I was homeschooled all the way to high school. 380 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 3: So my classroom, like my little classroom is there. 381 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's all still there. 382 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 3: I was homeschooled, was there and like all those things, 383 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 3: So there's obviously more I would have loved to do. 384 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 3: But I think just showing him more of who I 385 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 3: am would have been great. In Hawaii. 386 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 2: Wow, Wow, that's really nice. I didn't. I did not 387 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 2: know that you were homeschool No one does. 388 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 3: I don't. 389 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 2: I mean I thought I did I. 390 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 3: Know. 391 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,479 Speaker 2: Susan, second, I did love her. 392 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. I would tell people like, oh, I was homeschool 393 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 3: They're like, but you're so social, Like, yeah. 394 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 2: So I was in education for thirty six years, So 395 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 2: it's very That's why I'm asking it's very interesting either. 396 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 2: Did you like being homeschooled? 397 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 3: I mean, I think my experience of of homeschool it 398 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 3: was different than I think in the main line like 399 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 3: how they do it because sometimes in class would go 400 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 3: to the beach and we would kind of just walk across. 401 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 2: From Really that's school. That's really hello experience. If my 402 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 2: dive is it a blue Sea school can be experiential. Susan, Yeah, 403 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: would you homeschool your kids? 404 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 3: I would be open to it, But I'm also very 405 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:59,239 Speaker 3: much a career type of woman. So I mean, if 406 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 3: I had time to somehow do both with my future 407 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 3: partner then maybe, But I also loved my mom threw 408 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,959 Speaker 3: me into public school at the best time, and I 409 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 3: met such amazing people and like my best friend I 410 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 3: met in public school. So I also think there's great 411 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 3: experiences to be had when you go into a school 412 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:15,120 Speaker 3: with more students. 413 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: When you were being home school, did you feel like 414 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,479 Speaker 1: you were not having enough friends or missing out on 415 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: something or you didn't realize it then. 416 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 3: I didn't realize it then because a my cousins went 417 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 3: to public school and in a way we would go 418 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 3: to high school events with them, like their games. So 419 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 3: and our family is so huge. I always thought I 420 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 3: was around hundreds of people all the time. That's also 421 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 3: why my social skills are great. And my mom would 422 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 3: when we were younger, if we went out to restaurants 423 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 3: or the grocery store, she'd have us go talk to 424 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 3: the waitress by myself. She's like, go speak, you're fine. 425 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: So, no, did you have to order the cold cuts 426 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: by yourself? 427 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 3: I have to order my mom have me called from 428 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 3: my own dentist appointment when I was like eight years old. 429 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 2: Wow, she really taught. But Rachel, look at you. Your 430 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 2: strong and you're independent, and you know what you want, 431 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 2: so you know what your mother did the right thing. 432 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 2: In my opinion, I think it's great my parents did. 433 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 3: I mean, my parents did it right. They used to 434 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 3: have me fill out checks when I was really young too, 435 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 3: and like a tax paper, so they really taught. Wow, 436 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,919 Speaker 3: it's sound like the foundation that we needed. So when 437 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 3: I did public school, I thought public school was a 438 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 3: breathe because I was like my parents pretty. 439 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 1: Much, because you knew your thank kudos to your mom 440 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: and dad. So your family clearly, clearly is important to you. 441 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: And we saw on Joey's season how important the cultural 442 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: your family's culture is to you. 443 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 2: I'm curious, regardless of who you marry, what what of 444 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 2: those traditions would you want to bring into your marriage 445 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 2: because I know when I got married, I was very young, 446 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 2: but my husband and I each had family traditions from 447 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 2: our own separate films that we try to incorporate. What 448 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 2: ones would you want to bring with you? 449 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 3: I mean, definitely the traditional greeting that everyone crazy about. 450 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 2: Right, Joey nailed that he did all he did. 451 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 3: Amazing, but it's it's also things that you don't see 452 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 3: on camera. You know, things that my mom taught me 453 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 3: you know, when when you're sleeping next to someone who's 454 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 3: older than you, make sure your head is below them. 455 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 3: It's just a kind of respect that you're that you're 456 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 3: younger than them. 457 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 2: Well, what when you're sleeping you have to be lower. 458 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 3: Yes, when I've seen next to my sister, my mom 459 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 3: would go, oh oh, honey, no go lower because you're 460 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 3: your show respect to your sisters. 461 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 2: I don't cand I just explain how this is going 462 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 2: to work for you. And you're taller than when I 463 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,640 Speaker 2: sleeping together. When we find out when we find a guy, 464 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 2: he's always taller, our heads are going to be through 465 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 2: the head door. It's not about honey, here's a good one, Rachel. 466 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: Do you have any questions for Kathy and I about 467 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: love or relationships? 468 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 3: So many? Because I know you guys have had You know, 469 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 3: you have all this experience ahead of me, and you 470 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 3: know you guys being I quote older, you know, it 471 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 3: just makes you ten times. 472 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 2: You don't have put quotes around, quotes around it. 473 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 3: Because I wouldn't consider you guys older. I think age 474 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 3: is just all about wisdom, and I think there's something 475 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 3: so wonderful about you know it. I just have such 476 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 3: a respect for you guys, knowing that you've been through 477 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 3: things that I can't even imagine. I can't even fathom. 478 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 3: So I guess I would ask you how would you 479 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 3: both define love or true love? 480 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 2: Wow? 481 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: One of the things going back for a second, because 482 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: you hit a good point. My mother's girlfriends would try 483 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: to give me advice and stuff when I was younger, 484 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: Like you know, twenty. 485 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 2: You don't listen to that. 486 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: Even though we do have wisdom and experience, whatever we 487 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: say is not going to be and you could hear it, 488 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: but you have to live it. 489 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 2: But you know what, Yes, I would agree with that, 490 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 2: But Rachel, I think when you say you have so 491 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 2: many questions, I think some people are more open than 492 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 2: others to just hearing what we have to say, and 493 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 2: then when they're with another person in a relationship, something 494 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 2: might spark something, you know, Kathy and Susan said, I 495 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 2: think that's what it's about. Just don't know, but I 496 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 2: want to hear your ane. 497 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: I'm a hopeless romantic, much like yourself. I'm in love 498 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: with being in love. I wear my heart on my sleeve. 499 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,959 Speaker 1: That will never change because that's being true to myself. 500 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 2: That's who I am. I don't know. For me, love 501 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 2: to me it sounds like something out of a poetry book. 502 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 2: But for me, love is that feeling that I don't 503 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 2: want to spend another day by myself. I want that 504 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 2: person to experience things with me. I want to share things, 505 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 2: you know, the best friend, finding your best friend, someone 506 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 2: that you know. I'm in the last chapter of my life. 507 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 2: It's going to last about fifty years, but my best 508 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 2: best chapter. But I want it to be the best 509 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 2: chapter with someone. And I think that love looks a 510 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 2: little different as you get older, but I believe in love. 511 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: Since we're generations apart here and you've got all this 512 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: experience ahead of you, and I am a phone call 513 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: away from holding your hand through anything that you're about 514 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: to walk through. 515 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 2: I just want you to. 516 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 3: Note that I'll be calling you. Don't you worry it. 517 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 2: I know you will. 518 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: Let's do the generation gap game, Rachel, I'm giving you 519 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 1: my number two. 520 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 2: I'm left. I'm sorry, Kathy, I call you a problem. 521 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 2: She pulls. 522 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: It's a triangle, all right, listen, what about a little 523 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: game with Rachel. 524 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 2: Okay, generation gap this or that? You ready? Rachel, generation 525 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 2: gap this or that? We're just going to throw some 526 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 2: questions and you're going to pick this one or that one. 527 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 2: So here's the first one. Sliding into the DMS or 528 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 2: send it an email? I think either or it's about 529 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,199 Speaker 2: the same thing, isn't it. 530 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean I'm considering my Gmail my social media too. 531 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 3: I'm always on it. I guess. 532 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 2: In d MS that just feels more immediate to me. 533 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 2: The d M. 534 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, my email before my I mean, if you. 535 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 2: If you email me, you know it maybe three days 536 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 2: it's buried in that DM. It's like blinking at you. 537 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: Instagram or TikTok. Yeah, oh they're one and the same 538 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: to now. 539 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 3: My Instagram, I guess. 540 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. How about all right, here's catching up with a 541 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 2: friend texting or calling? This is my own personal will 542 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 2: I prefer Oh so do I put so many younger 543 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 2: people it's all about texting. You can't read emotion in text. 544 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this younger generation, I mean, I'm probably 545 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 3: in this younger generation whatever, but I think, uh there, 546 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,640 Speaker 3: it's just so easy, so they can like not have 547 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 3: what is what is the think of the word urgency. 548 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 3: They're so numb to an actual connection with people, and 549 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 3: it's so they're so quick to text. They can go 550 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 3: about their day. I'd rather sit see you, feel you. 551 00:26:58,480 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 3: Let's discuss what's going. 552 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: On, which which brings to mind the people behind their 553 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: computers making the negative comments. They're not showing their face, 554 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 1: They're hiding behind something. So me, a text is when 555 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: I don't have time to talk. I can't talk, but 556 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: da da D D or I love you or talk 557 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: to you later. 558 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 2: But a phone call is real. I just find people 559 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 2: have their heads in their phone, you know, on the 560 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 2: screen so much. I'm just surprised to hear you say. 561 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 2: I love hearing you say a phone call. 562 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 3: I prefer a FaceTime too, because I'd rather just see 563 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 3: your face. 564 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's always fun. Oh, Kathy gets me at the 565 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: worst time. To Susan, are you serious? You're naked, you're 566 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: getting out the shower. Why do you answer the phone? 567 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 3: Anty season? Were you eating something? 568 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 2: Probably? Yes, I'm always eating, Susan, eating right every two hours. 569 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,959 Speaker 1: It's okay, here, I got I have. 570 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 2: This is the thing with Susan me that we constantly 571 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 2: talk about dating someone older than you or dating someone 572 00:27:58,600 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 2: younger than you. 573 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 3: Older. Either I would say older. 574 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 2: Well, because you're young. I would say younger because I'm 575 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 2: running out of options. Go either way. 576 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 3: I mean, I think it really depends on the person. 577 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 3: My dad's younger than my mom and. 578 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 2: How much how much young honestly, not that much. 579 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 3: I think it's like two years. But he also through 580 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 3: his life experiences. My dad's just really mature. But I 581 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 3: also see guys who are younger than me and they're 582 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 3: they're just not there. It's just not well. 583 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: I think women mature quicker than men. So in your 584 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: twenties and younger, that's the case. Yeah, I totally get that. 585 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: How about ghosting today, that's one of my part. Would 586 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: you rather break up in person, have respect and have 587 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: a conversation. 588 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 2: Or ghost them? 589 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: What is this ghosting thing? Wait, it's called something else too? 590 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: What else do you call it? 591 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 2: Oh? I don't know. 592 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 3: I just called it. 593 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 2: There's cab fish when they're not. I don't know. That's 594 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 2: school us. Come on, school us, honey. I just learned 595 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:03,479 Speaker 2: what riz was. 596 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 3: Oh, I actually just learned what it actually was. To guys, 597 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 3: I might be in the same way. What. No, I'm 598 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 3: totally against ghosting. I feel like that's so disrespectful to 599 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 3: the person. You waste their time. At least you could 600 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 3: give them five minutes to explain why you don't want 601 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 3: to be with them. That's also why dms are so 602 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 3: easy to go because you can just not respond. You 603 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 3: can also then you can just elite. So, uh, it's 604 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 3: so easy for people to kind of move on nowadays. 605 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 3: I mean, at least my life break so there was 606 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,719 Speaker 3: no ghosting there. Everyone saw me get broken up. 607 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: Well yeah, so wait, that's another thing you know in 608 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: your gener I don't even. 609 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 2: Know what it's called. Uh, plural dating, Like we are 610 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 2: dating more than one guy at a time. Say it again, 611 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 2: look at me. No, no, no, that's been married to 612 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 2: more than one at a time when we do not 613 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 2: subscribe to that. No, no, Rachel, we'll have a class 614 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 2: on that later. No, it's like plural dating where you 615 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 2: date you both of you are dating multiple people in 616 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 2: multiple relationships at a time. 617 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 3: Oh, I can't do that. 618 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: I'm greedy you, I'm selfish to me, I'm not sharing. 619 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: I'll share my fries. I can't tell you. 620 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 2: Share my man. 621 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 3: The other day, I saw those groceries in a throatle 622 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 3: I said, how did you get to and I. 623 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't get one right, because you know what 624 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 2: the best is being saved for you? Rachel, if you're out. 625 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: There, give it time. Let's talk for one second. When 626 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: you're reading all these books and talking about people. In America, 627 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: people date multiple people. It's called dating. I've always had 628 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 1: a relationship. Yes, I didn't know how to date too. 629 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you don't get intimate. I would imagine, 630 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: because that's crazy. 631 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about. You're having multiple. 632 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: No double dipping on my watch, I can't do it. 633 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 2: Well, I guess, I guess that's the final answer there. 634 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 3: I mean that that's normal. 635 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 2: Now I just told you I can't find me. She 636 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 2: said what I just said? Why is that normal? 637 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 3: Why? To me? But I know a lot of people 638 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,719 Speaker 3: who participate in that hookup culture. 639 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 2: Data it's just phraseex, what's wrong? 640 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 3: At least cycle the numbers and go back to your ex. 641 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: Like just. 642 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 2: No, you're not going back to your ex, Rachel. We're 643 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 2: not having any word cheating. It's over. 644 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 3: Even talk to my exes. They're in the graveyard. So 645 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 3: it's fine. 646 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: Oh god, So that's the next question. Friends with your 647 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: ex are cutting it off cold turkey? 648 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 3: I've cut it off cold turkey completely with all except. 649 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: That what Wow, I'm friends with only. 650 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 3: Because his best friend is my cousin's Beyonce, and he's 651 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 3: back in Haway, so he's very close with my family, 652 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 3: and I peak of this family, So we would just. 653 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 2: Never Yeah, I know you're going to find this hard 654 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 2: to believe, Rachel. Susan is friends with every every act 655 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 2: she's ever had. 656 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 3: It just makes the most sense, to be honest. 657 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 2: You know, I think it sounds exhausting. 658 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: They all hit me up and said congratulations on the 659 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: show we watched you. 660 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 2: We're so happy for you. I love that. 661 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 3: I love that they think about you still and are 662 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 3: messaging you though. That's how iconic you are. 663 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: But I'll reach out every birthday, every holiday. 664 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 2: I mean, I you know, I can't. You know the 665 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 2: date books. Susan's got a binder with tads, thousands of them. 666 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 2: Oh it's John's birthday, Oh it's Sam's birthday. She can't, 667 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 2: she can't deliver. Why it's too busy wishing the exits happy. 668 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: But that calendar in your phone that comes up once 669 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: a year and reminds you, listen, we weds been so great. 670 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 2: It has been so great having you. You're filled with 671 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 2: wisdom for your young years, and you are a delight 672 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 2: and good things are coming your way. 673 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: And we wish you all the very very best, and 674 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: we're Kathy and I both will always. 675 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 2: Be here for you. 676 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,479 Speaker 1: And that does it for today's episode of Bachelor Happy 677 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: Hours Golden Hour. Thanks to our most favorite guests so far, 678 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: rightchel we love you. 679 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 2: We love you, we adore you. 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