1 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to the Thursday edition of Fair Territory. I'm 2 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal here with my friend Alana Rizzo and Alana, 3 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: I can't remember which show it was, who can remember 4 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 1: what is said and when, But I do recall saying 5 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: on one of our shows that the only bummer about 6 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: the season is that the races are kind of decided. 7 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: We know who the playoff teams are going to be. Well, 8 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: as I always say, and this is the one intelligent 9 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: thing I will say, this game makes fools of us, 10 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: all Ken. 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 2: It does make us look a little bit silly. And 12 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 2: I think it was on this very show we had 13 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 2: that discussion. But let's look at this from a different perspective. 14 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 2: The Seattle Mariners Ken seem to have a pattern of 15 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 2: play at this time of year in recent memory. What's 16 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 2: going on with the MS. 17 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: I'm not adactly sure what's going on. Obviously they're not 18 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: playing well right now sixteen in their last twenty Remember 19 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: they went ten and one starting July thirty first, the 20 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: day of the deadline, looked like they were going to 21 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: be in great shape. On August tenth, they were a 22 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: half game out of first, holding the top wildcard spot, 23 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,199 Speaker 1: and again since then six and fourteen. The Astros actually 24 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: have gone ten and ten over that same span, not 25 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: exactly burning the house down, and they've gained four games. 26 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: You see the standings in the wildcard race right there, 27 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: and this is what we're talking about. The Mariners lead 28 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: over the Texas Rangers, a team that was left for 29 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 1: you know what after the injuries to Siger and Evaaldi 30 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: and so many others. They're just one and a half 31 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: back Kansas City and Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay that just 32 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: swept the Mariners. They are now two and a half 33 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: back the Guardian's three back. Do the Mariners have still 34 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: a commanding position for the wildcard? Yes, but they are 35 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: four out in the division, which is a place they 36 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: should not be. And yes, Alana, as you mentioned to 37 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: get to what you were referring to, this would be 38 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: the third straight year that they would miss the playoffs 39 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: with a really good chance. Twenty twenty three, on September second, 40 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: September second, right around this time of year, they're seventy 41 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: seven and fifty eight. They lead the division by a game. 42 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: They then went eight and fifteen, eight and fifteen. They 43 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: won three of their last four, but still missed the playoffs. 44 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: By a game. Now, last year was a little bit different, 45 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: but on June eighteenth, they were forty four and thirty one, 46 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: lent the division by ten games ten and yet it 47 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: still didn't happen for them. They go twenty five and 48 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,399 Speaker 1: thirty nine from June nineteenth to September third, play well 49 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: down the stretch again, but again missed by one game 50 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: in the wild card, falling short. So this is a 51 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: third straight year where we've seen this swoon from them. 52 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: Now their players are aware of it. They've spoken about it, 53 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: and clearly they want this bad spell to end. But 54 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: obviously they know this too. They need to do something 55 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: about it. Now. The one qualifier I'll give here is 56 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: that every team in contention we have seen this season 57 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: seem to have these incredible peaks and valleys. So maybe 58 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: this is their valley and maybe it'll come out of 59 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: it again, and especially when they get home, because they've 60 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: been a poor road team. But this is certainly not 61 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: what they envisioned. Since the deadline. People talk about, well 62 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: they improved their offense with Aohano Suarez and Josh Naylor. 63 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: They did, but Suarez has really struggled. He's one ninety 64 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: five batting average with the Mariners six homers, six sixty 65 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 1: five ops. Naylor's been good, but their pitching has not 66 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: been what it was what it was advertised to be, 67 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: twenty fourth in the majors in e since the deadline. 68 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: Kirby gave up I believe eight last night. That's where 69 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: the problem is. 70 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the pitching has always been their strength, although 71 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 2: although I felt like this year the whole team was 72 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: a little bit more complete. But Ken, it's not just 73 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 2: the Mariners. You discussed it. Why does it seem and 74 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: I know that this is not the case, but why 75 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 2: does it seem like nobody really wants to win the 76 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 2: alas they continue to jockey for position, but nobody's pulling away. 77 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that, and I don't 78 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: know the answer why this seems to be a league 79 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: wide problem. Now. The Astros are in a very good 80 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: position right now. That was a huge win last night 81 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: over the Yankees. We'll get into that. But they have 82 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 1: been a team that has been riddled by injuries, so 83 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: you can kind of understand why they have not played 84 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: necessarily to their potential. Even now they're missing Hater, They've 85 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: got your do on back, but it's not a team 86 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: that is necessarily whole. No team is at this time 87 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: of year, So I don't know what's going on there 88 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: and how this is going to play out. But we've 89 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: talked about the Astros all year long in this regard. 90 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: Until you knock them off, they're the champ and they 91 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: remain that way. They have this unique quality about them. 92 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: Even with this week's Sheenanigan's with fromber so sure, they 93 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: still look like the team that is going to get there, 94 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: and not only get there. I would expect that there's 95 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 1: going to be a problem in the postseason. 96 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 2: As well, the MVP race Ken because obviously cal Rally 97 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: very much a huge piece of the Seattle Mariners. But 98 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 2: how does it impact the MVP race with Seattle not 99 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: playing as well as they should be at a critical 100 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:13,160 Speaker 2: time of year. 101 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it would, And obviously this season is not over, 102 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: so we cannot make any determination just yet, but Raleigh's 103 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: chances fade a little bit in my estimation if the 104 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: Mariners do not make the playoffs, if they fall out 105 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: of it, that would be a problem. That wouldn't be 106 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: his fault, of course, And you see the numbers right there, Judge, 107 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: still with the massive lead in OPS on base percentage. Obviously, 108 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: Rally's got the fifty one homers at catcher, which is incredible. 109 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: But Raleigh, since I don't know, June twenty fifth or so, 110 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 1: average is below two hundred. Batting average is not that 111 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: big a deal. Its OPS is a seven to seventy 112 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: or something like that. But he was much better before 113 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: June twenty fifth those first three months than he has 114 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: been since then. You have, Judge, he hasn't been great 115 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: lately since coming off the IL. Still not play in 116 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: the field, so the last few weeks will decide that. 117 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 2: Hen, let me ask you really quickly before we move 118 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: on to the AL East Judge's division. Obviously, who is 119 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: the more valuable player to their respective team in your estimation? 120 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 2: Is it Hal Rawley to Mariners or is it Aaron 121 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 2: Judge to the Yanks. 122 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: It's such a difficult question. They're both extremely valuable to 123 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 1: their teams, and Alan I hate to dodge it, but 124 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: I always dodge this question when AJ asked me on 125 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: foul Territory, who's your MVP right now? A real good 126 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: question to answer right now. They're both incredibly important to 127 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: their teams, and certainly the catcher you can always make 128 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: the case the catcher is the most important because of 129 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: where he plays. But when you have the advantage in 130 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: ops the judge does, it makes the conversation a little 131 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: bit more difficult, to say the least. 132 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 2: All Right, hopefully I don't have that same type of 133 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: girth that aj Pruzinski has when I ask you question. 134 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 2: Let's move on to the AL East, And of course 135 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 2: it also seems like this is a division ken that 136 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,799 Speaker 2: nobody really wants to win this either jocking for position. 137 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 2: As you mentioned, we could talk about this league wide 138 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 2: because the NL West is the same way. But the 139 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: Blue Jays gained a game on Boston and New York 140 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 2: Wednesday night. Now they're three and a half up. In 141 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 2: terms of that springer again, Benjamin Button, much like Eral 142 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 2: this Chapman is doing such an amazing job this season. Offensively, 143 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 2: he's third in the majors in ops, but the bullpen 144 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 2: is still problematic. What do you make of it? 145 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: Well, we're going to have an interesting showdown this weekend 146 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: Blue Jay's Yankees, and that's going to be something that 147 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: I don't know that determines this thing, but certainly if 148 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: the Yankees lose two of three or get swept, their 149 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: chances of winning the division become that much more difficult. 150 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: And we'll talk about the Red Sox too. Their chances 151 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: have become more difficult with the loss of Roman Anthony. 152 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: But the Jays, it seems to me they have enough 153 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: of a cushion now. The bullpen is a problem, as 154 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: you mentioned Ilana and Jeff Hoffman. He's been up and 155 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: down all year. He's on a run now of three 156 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: straight scoreless I know Jays fans have seen this before, 157 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: and then he implodes again. You have to hope that 158 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: he's on the right track. Even a guy like Little 159 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: he's been struggling. You get Louis Varlin from the Twins, 160 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: and he has had his moments, but he's had his 161 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: moments that have been really bad too, and they're perplexed 162 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: by it. So the bullpen clearly is a huge question 163 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: for them, both for the rest of the regular season 164 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: and into the postseason. But they've been a pretty resilient 165 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 1: bunch and we'll see how they faire this weekend. It's 166 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: going to be a fascinating series in Yankee Stadium. But 167 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: I still like the Jays to win this division because 168 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: of what is going on with the two other clubs, 169 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: and let's get into that. Let's get into Anthony, because 170 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: Anthony had been for the Red Sox such a valuable player. 171 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: This dude comes up and in seventy one games, two 172 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: ninety two batting average three ninety six on base four 173 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: sixty three slug eight home runs, thirty two RBIs in 174 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: those seventy one games, leading off, dynamic player, a guy 175 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: that we can certainly see in the future being an 176 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: MVP candidate. Without him, they're not the same. And you'll 177 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: see Duran will be back in the leadoff spot against 178 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: the Rioties that used N eight eight eton against a 179 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: lefty on Wednesday. It's not the same lineup, obviously, and 180 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: they too have some pitching concerns beyond their big three. 181 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: So I still like the Red Sox, but I like 182 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: them a whole lot less without Anthony. And then there 183 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: are the Yankees, and we saw that game last night. 184 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: It was kind of a typical Yankee game from this year. Now, 185 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 1: granted the umpire and what was going on in the 186 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: late innings, it was awful. And yes there were calls, 187 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: particularly against Devin Williams, that should have gone the other way. 188 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: But let's look at this game, they lead four to one. 189 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: Will Warren starts to sixth inning and he's at sixty 190 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: something pitches. He allows a leadoff homer to Jeremy Panya. 191 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: Now Yankee fans are saying, oh, you should have left 192 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: him in for more and rather than start the bullpen carousel. No, 193 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: when you give up the homer leading off the sixth, 194 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: that's the signal it's time. So they go to the bullpen. 195 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: What happens before Devin enters the game. You see Cruise 196 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: allow run, and you see Weaver allow run. And then 197 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: you get to Devin Williams and he had his problems. Again. Yes, 198 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: you could have asked the question, should Boone have lifted 199 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: in with one out and the base is loaded, Yes, 200 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 1: but he did strike out the next hitter and then 201 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,599 Speaker 1: Dval he is a complete mess, balk while pitch the 202 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: whole thing. Their bullpen is also an issue, obviously, and they, 203 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: even after that big win in the series opener, need 204 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: to show they can play consistently solid baseball against the 205 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: better teams. This weekend for them against Toronto, a team 206 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: that they have struggled with all season. Next big test. 207 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. Circling back to the Boston 208 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: Red Sox for just a second. It's a two part question, 209 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 2: two day, different people. They just put Jordan Hicks on 210 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 2: the IL, apparently ken with shoulder inflammation. I'm going to 211 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 2: go ahead and say that's because it's inflammation of lack 212 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 2: of production. That's why Jordan Hicks is on the IL. 213 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 2: But going back to Roman Anthony for just a second, 214 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 2: is it fair to put the pressure on a twenty 215 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 2: one year old to take you to the promised Land? 216 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that they were putting that pressure 217 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: on him, but really, is that what the Boston Red 218 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: Sox are holding their hat on, that they're going to 219 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 2: make it to the postseason because of a twenty one 220 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: year old rookie. 221 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: It's a fair question, Alana. And in the wake of 222 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: the Devors trade, in which Jordan Hicks was one of 223 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: the players they acquired, they became a different team. They 224 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: actually became a better team in some ways because they 225 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: were more flexible with their roster and could do some things. 226 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 1: And Anthony emerged during this period as a potential superstar, 227 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,680 Speaker 1: so they weren't necessarily hanging their hat on him, but 228 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: he became an integral part of what they do. And 229 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: the way I look at it, any team that loses 230 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: a player of this cat this time of year, that's 231 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: a problem. And it wasn't that they were relying so 232 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: much on Anthony, It's just that they needed him. He 233 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: was part of why they were so good. You look 234 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: at the Brewers yesterday, they lose Shelby Miller, Christian Yelich 235 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 1: doesn't play, he's got back trouble. There are injuries occurring 236 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: all over the sport. Kyle Tucker again is problematic in 237 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: Chicago with the Cubs, so Anthony is in that category. 238 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,839 Speaker 1: He's that important a player. The Red Sox didn't necessarily 239 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: build their team around him, but the way it all 240 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: played out, yes, he became a critical part of what 241 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 1: they do. And without him, and it looks like he's 242 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 1: out for at least the rest of the regular season 243 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 1: with an oblique it's really difficult. 244 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, four to six weeks on the IL for the 245 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 2: Roman Empire. Marcelo Anthony also Marcel Meyer rather also on 246 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 2: the IL for the rest of the year. All right, 247 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 2: coming up on Fair Territory with Ken Rosenthal. Get those 248 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 2: questions in for Grill and Ken. A lot to talk about. 249 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 2: We'll be back right after this break ft FAM. 250 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 3: Designer clothes can be expensive, but we want our clothes 251 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 3: to look good, we want to feel good. 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That's True Classic dot 270 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 3: com slash foul. 271 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 2: All right, get those questions in right here for Ken 272 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 2: Rosenthal on Grill and Ken. The first one comes from 273 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 2: armand we appreciate you. You know it's going to be 274 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 2: a met question. Armand is our met boy? Ken? Grill 275 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: and Ken? Should code I Senga accept going down. It's 276 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 2: his decision based on a clause in his contract, and 277 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: per Mike Puma, we should know a decision on Friday. 278 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 2: What is your take? 279 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: My guess would be yes, if they have a detailed 280 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: plan for him on what is wrong and what he 281 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: needs to fix, and if it can really help them, 282 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: if they're just looking for a roster spot, which they 283 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: might be because it came out this morning it was 284 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: reported that Brandon Sprote is going to make his debut 285 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: Sunday against the Cincinnati Reds rookie starting pitcher number three. 286 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: The door keeps spinning. Yes, Senga has struggled. Yes, it's 287 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: been a bit of a mystery for sure. But at 288 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: the same time, this guy signed a contract. He has 289 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: the right to reject that assignment. And if I'm him 290 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: and they're telling me to go to the miners, I 291 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: would say, Okay, that's fine, but what are we doing here? 292 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: What is the place? When am I coming back? Et cetera. 293 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 2: What do you think is going on with Singa. I'm 294 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 2: not asking you to break down his mechanics, but what 295 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 2: have you seen? 296 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: I'm not sure? To be honest, it seems to be 297 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: a command issue that the pitchers aren't going where he 298 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: wants them to go. That's what command is, but I 299 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: have not broken it down that closely, and I'm not 300 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: exactly sure what it is. He's obviously had injuries and 301 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: maybe that's taken a toll on him. But again, I'm 302 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: not quite sure where they are with this and whether 303 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: they think it's mechanical, whether they think it's execution, what 304 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: exactly is the problem? All right? 305 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 2: Ken, the fork ball isn't forking. We know that, Daniel 306 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 2: Rothenberg the next question here. Thank you for the super chat, Daniel. 307 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 2: We appreciate you. Pitchers always give one hundred percent effort 308 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: on each pitch. If you signed one to a nine 309 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 2: figure extension, would you want them to throw at eighty 310 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 2: percent if it meant no injury? Ken, I don't think 311 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 2: you can pitch with injury on the back of your mind. 312 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: What do you say, Daniel? That's an interesting question here. 313 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: Now the answer to his specific question is no, you 314 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: cannot ask a player to give less than full effort 315 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: and it just doesn't work like that. What I believe 316 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: needs to happen, and we've talked about this a lot, 317 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: is that the sport needs to put in rules to 318 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: kind of prevent pictures from throwing as hard as they 319 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: can at full maximum effort. And what I mean by 320 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: that is this, if you reduce the size of a staff, 321 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: if you go from thirteen to twelve, maybe even to eleven. 322 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: Now I know it's crazy given the way staffs are 323 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: used today, but if you do that, pitchers have to 324 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: throw more innings, obviously because there are a fewer of 325 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: them available, and therefore they cannot go all out every pitch. 326 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: And ultimately, that's the change I think that needs to 327 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: be made. It's a change in the sport, not a 328 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: team or an individual player. It's an wholesale difference from 329 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: where we are right now. I know there are many, many, 330 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: many problems with this idea, and there is a fear 331 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: that there would be just as many injuries, maybe even more, 332 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: but I don't buy that. And to me, shrink the 333 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: staff and then guys automatically could not throw as hard 334 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,719 Speaker 1: because they would need to be available for longer. 335 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's such a difficult conversation to have. Everybody throws 336 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 2: one hundred miles an hour, but the injuries seem to 337 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 2: be creeping up. But if you don't throw one hundred 338 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 2: miles an hour, Ken, you don't get a job. Okay, 339 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 2: Cole Bassett's left foot, it's an interesting handle. 340 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: Ken. 341 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on Cardinals hitting coach Brent Brown 342 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 2: and manager Oliver Marmle speaking out on kmox Gas House 343 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 2: Gang Show about the struggles with Jordan Walker. 344 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: I was a little surprised to see them that honest. 345 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 1: Oli Marmle is an honest guy. But this has been 346 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: going on a while with Jordan Walker, and they want 347 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: him to do certain things. They want him to be 348 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: a certain kind of hitter, and to this point it's 349 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: not working. I think that these are probably things that 350 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: they've said to him. I'm actually I'm sure of this. 351 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: They have said these things to him in face to 352 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: face situations, and it just seems to me that there's 353 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: a frustration level here. Understandably, I'm sure Jordan Walker is 354 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:12,719 Speaker 1: frustrated too, and they need him to be better going forward, 355 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 1: and they want him to be better, and there are 356 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: certain adjustments he needs to make, and those guys spoke Honestly, 357 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: I don't think they were ripping him per se. They 358 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: were just kind of explaining, Hey, here's what needs to happen, 359 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: and yeah, there are things that need to happen. 360 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 2: Honestly, I appreciate the honesty. It's rare in today's game. 361 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 2: We appreciate the questions you guys on Grill and Ken. 362 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 2: We will be right back after this break with Dude 363 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 2: and Dork of the Week. 364 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 3: We're throwing a curveball at you this week for our 365 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 3: Arena Club segment. As AJ has opened up a Pokemon 366 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 3: flat pack. Did you said Pokemon flatman? Pokemon? Don't ask 367 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 3: me to say what that card is, but we're doing 368 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 3: with that card. I already sold it doing back, baby. 369 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 4: I bought it and then I got more money than 370 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 4: I paid for the pack, so I sold it straight back. 371 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 3: You bought it for, you sold it for, and you 372 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 3: can go get yourself something that you maybe know how 373 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 3: to pronounce yes or. 374 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 4: Know what it is. I exaid it because I saw 375 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 4: certain people open in Pokemon and they're making money, and 376 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 4: guess what I got. 377 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 3: Lucky made money off of it too, exactly but of course, 378 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 3: if you're into sports cards, that is something that you 379 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 3: can find a ton of on the arena club marketplace. 380 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 3: By sell slab pack trade twenty percent off your first 381 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 3: slap pack or card purchase can be had at arenaclub 382 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 3: dot com. Slash foul and use the code foul. That's 383 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 3: arenaclub dot com. Slash foul and use code foul. 384 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 2: Swing big on your next MLB parlay. Use this parlay 385 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 2: boost toven to score a bigger payout. If your baseball 386 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 2: parlay hits gambling problem more concern, there is help. Call 387 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 2: one eight hundred gambler. 388 00:19:51,640 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 5: Dude, dude, dude, okay Ken, who is your dude of 389 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 5: the week, who are you given props to? 390 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 1: All right, not to rub salt in the Red Sox 391 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 1: wounds right now, but Rafael Devers and forget the Kyle 392 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: Freeland nonsense. I don't care about that. Raphael Devers in 393 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: the last month plus has been the Raffaeld Devers of old. 394 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: If you remember, the trade was June fifteenth. He struggled 395 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: initially and that's a big adjustment. That was a shocking trade. 396 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: But since August first, starting August first to ninety one 397 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: batting average nine to ninety seven ops for the season. 398 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: Right now for the season, thirty home runs ninety seven 399 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: RBIs eight seventy ops. This is the Rafaeld Devers we 400 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: all know and have come to admire over the years. 401 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: The Giants are suddenly on the fringes of the wildcard race, 402 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: like a week and a half after their manager Bob 403 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: Melvin was reported to be in trouble. He still might 404 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 1: be in trouble, but good for the Giants and good 405 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: for devors In kind of finding his footing there and 406 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: doing it in a big way. 407 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 2: Due to the week, again, nobody wants to win the division. 408 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 2: Dang it, somebody please pull away and win a division. 409 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: All right? 410 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 2: My dude of the week is a Red Sox, the 411 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,360 Speaker 2: newest Red Sock. In fact, Peyton Toley made his major 412 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 2: league debut. The guy's only twenty two years old. He 413 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: looks like he's thirty five. He looks like magnum p I. 414 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 2: But what a debut for him. I love the emotion, 415 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 2: I love the execution. He had eight punch outs five 416 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 2: and a third innings, ended up getting three earned runs. 417 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 2: Really one of those whisses, I mean, he did leave 418 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 2: the guys on base but weis certain just had a 419 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 2: terrible outing. His brother and his father were in the stands. 420 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 2: Peyton totally lost his mom to cancer, and he had 421 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 2: in his postgame interview said that he hurt his mom 422 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 2: in his head saying you're still a hack. He had 423 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 2: a laugh about that. His younger brother in the stands, 424 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 2: He's like, I don't know, what's such a big deal 425 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 2: about his major league debut. No big deal. The perfect 426 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 2: response from a younger brother. Welcome to the bigs, Peyton Toley, 427 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 2: we are very proud of you. Okay, time now for 428 00:21:53,760 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 2: dork of the week, and if you don't mind, I'm 429 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 2: going to take honors here and do my dork of 430 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 2: the week. 431 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: First. 432 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 2: My dork of the week is a Houston astro by 433 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 2: the name of from Bur Valdez. And why this man 434 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 2: decided he was going to throw and hit at his 435 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 2: own catcher because he didn't like his catcher telling him 436 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 2: to kind of step back off the rubber is unreal 437 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 2: to me. You don't hit your own teammate. And again, 438 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 2: this is not the first time that Framber Valdez has 439 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 2: had temper tantrums on the mound, or in the clubhouse, 440 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 2: or on the field, that's inappropriate. And you heard Eric 441 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 2: Kratz say on fair Chair foul territory rather that he 442 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 2: wanted to punch him right in the face. And I 443 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 2: don't know that there's a minor leaguer or a major 444 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 2: leaguer that wouldn't want to do the same thing from 445 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 2: ber Valdez. You were my dork of the week. 446 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: All right now, Alana, speaking of poor teammates, and that's 447 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: what we're talking about here. I want to play for 448 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: you a clip from the end of our broadcast Saturday 449 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: in Kansas City on Fox. Bobby, Congratulations, say anything. Thank you, Tason, back. 450 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 3: To you, Ken, Thank you, Bobby, Thank you AJ. 451 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: Always a pleasure, Thank. 452 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 3: You, Jason. Always fun working with you. 453 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 4: I'm just mad they didn't get kenrose doma nice fucking he. 454 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: Saw it coming. Now we're talking about teammates here, and 455 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: we had at the end of the broadcast the situation 456 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,959 Speaker 1: where Bobby Wick got water dunked on him and I 457 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: did slip out of the way. I don't always I 458 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: did in that case, Alana, you know the feeling as 459 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: well as anyone for AJ to say that, for him 460 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: to wish ill on me, wish ill on his teammate. 461 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: He is dork for the Week. And I will say this, Alana, 462 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: this is not the first time he's won the award. 463 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: Like Fromber, he's a multiple offender. 464 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 2: If a Pierzinsky Dork of the Week. 465 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: You know you are reading my mind. We are working 466 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 1: together instinct. Now. We had the award named for another person. 467 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: We ended that we didn't want to do that anymore. 468 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: But we have to rename it for somebody else. We'll 469 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: rename it for somebody else. A congratulations Door for the 470 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: Week again. And you know what, I know he won't 471 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: be offended by this one because he's been called wars 472 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: and two because he doesn't watch our show, doesn't watch 473 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: our show, doesn't read my stories. Just wishes ill on 474 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: me at the end of games, David. 475 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 2: Aj Pierzinski wishing ill will on our friend and colleague 476 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 2: Ken Rosenthal. All right, let me ask you this, Ken, 477 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 2: before we say goodbye to our TV audience, tell me 478 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 2: about your memory from the cal Ripken twenty one to 479 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 2: thirty one game. 480 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: Well, I wrote about this yesterday in the wind up 481 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: for the Athletic. It's our daily newsletter, it's free, and 482 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 1: I've said this forever. That was the highlight of my career. 483 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: That's my column on the left side that night, and 484 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: it's the highlight of my career because of what that 485 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: night meant to Baltimore, to baseball coming off the strike, 486 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: really the country as a whole. Both the President Bill 487 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: Clinton and the Vice President Albert Gore were in attendance 488 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: that night, as well as Joe DiMaggio and zillion other people. 489 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: It was such a positive, warm, wonderful event. And the 490 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 1: thirtieth anniversary is this weekend, and I wish I could 491 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: be a Camden Yards. I'm going to be in Texas 492 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: for Rangers Astros, which will be great too, But that 493 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: was just a special, special occasion and it's always near 494 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: and dear to my heart. I've covered World Series, Olympics, 495 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 1: NBA Finals, NHL Finals, you name it, and I've done 496 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: a lot of amazing things, but that night stands out 497 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 1: above all. 498 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 2: Thirtieth anniversary. I cannot believe it's been thirty years, Ken, 499 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 2: and you continue to have guys like AJ Pierzinski make 500 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 2: fun of you. You have come a long way in 501 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 2: your career, Ken Rosenthal, Happy thirtieth anniversary to the Iron Man. 502 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 2: That certainly is a record that will never ever be broken. Well, 503 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 2: if you're watching on TV, thank you guys so much 504 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 2: for watching us. 505 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 1: Ken. 506 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 2: We'll be back with the fresh episode on Monday. We'll 507 00:25:54,680 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 2: see you next time. Okay, all right, we have a 508 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,959 Speaker 2: couple more minutes with our YouTube family. We appreciate you 509 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 2: guys very much. Ken, you just mentioned it. You have Texas, 510 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 2: Houston and Texas this weekend. That's going to be a 511 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 2: good one because it's Jacob de Gram going up against 512 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 2: Hunter Brown. On paper, anyway, that seems like a pretty 513 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 2: good pitching probable. 514 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 1: Oh, it's a fantastic matchup. And two guys who are 515 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: in the cy Young conversation. Maybe not at the forefront, 516 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 1: but certainly in that mix. Crochet and schoobl are the 517 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 1: two leaders. Perhaps School and Crochet, I should say it 518 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: that way. But Hunter Brown has had a brilliant season 519 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: for the Astros, and Jacob de Cram, of course, has 520 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: had an amazing comeback season one hundred and fifty innings 521 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 1: now for the Texas Rangers, and without evolity, at least 522 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: for the time being, he's their ace. Now. What's interesting 523 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: about the Gram is that, because of of course his 524 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: injury history, they've cut back on his workload in recent starts, 525 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: and I was around the Rangers this week and I 526 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: asked about maybe extending him in this game because of 527 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,719 Speaker 1: its meaning, of course, and was told, now, we're going 528 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: to take it easy with him. We're going to hopefully 529 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: get what we can out of him, but it's not 530 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: going to be letting him go for eight innings. He'll 531 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,719 Speaker 1: probably be at a five inning level, maybe six. So 532 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that game. I'm looking forward to 533 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: seeing Texas too. This team, of all the teams this year, 534 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: has been one of the most confounding, and that's saying 535 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: something given all the confounding situations we've seen, sort of 536 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: like the Dodgers in that they've under really all year long, 537 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: especially on the offensive side, and now they're without Corey Seeger. 538 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: They had one span of eight players going on the 539 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 1: IL in sixteen days in August, including Seeger and Valdi 540 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: and Simeon. They're scrappy, they're playing without. These guys are 541 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: hanging in there. I don't know if they have the 542 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 1: offense to sustain it without the players I just mentioned, 543 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 1: but here they are. They're just five and a half 544 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: out in the division, and more importantly for them, one 545 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: and a half back in the wild card race. I 546 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: give him a shot talented not to be in a 547 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: strong position. And if Segu comes back, which they do expect, 548 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 1: even though he had an appendectomy about ten days ago, 549 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: they expect him back, maybe even next week, then IVOLDI 550 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: by the end of the regular season. Of all these 551 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: a little bit more problematic and doubtful, then okay, maybe 552 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: they have a chance. 553 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 2: So you're saying there's a chance before we say goodbye quickly, 554 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 2: Ken you talked about Hunter Brown, you talked about Schoogle, 555 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 2: you talked about Curchet. 556 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 1: Of course a role. 557 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 2: This Chapman has been unbelievable. Red Sox just extended him 558 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 2: for next year. Is he in your cy Young conversation? 559 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 2: Or is the only thing he gets is the Mariano Rivera, 560 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 2: you know, reliever reward, which is great as well. 561 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: I'm partial to starting pitchers in the Scion conversation simply 562 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: because they have greater volume, more innings pitched. If a 563 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: roll this Chapman was pitching two hundred innings, Okay, well, 564 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: nobody's pitching two hundred, but one hundred and eighty, then 565 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: it's a different discussion. Perhaps, So the BBWAA is going 566 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: to institute a relief Pitcher of the Year awards start 567 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: next year, and at that point we'll get to honor 568 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,479 Speaker 1: them in a way that we have not ever in 569 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: our history. Obviously, Yes, there are the two awards now, 570 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: the Marianna Rivera Award and the Trevor Hoffmin Award. And 571 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: that's the spot for a Chapman. He has had an 572 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: amazing season and actually I've got a story about him 573 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: and sal Perez coming to me. 574 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 2: Oh good, look forward to that. We are appreciative of 575 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 2: everybody that joined us today here on Fair Territory with 576 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 2: Ken Rosenthal. 577 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 1: Again. 578 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 2: Ken is on the call for de gram and Brown, 579 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 2: the Rangers and the Astros this weekend, and he is 580 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 2: back on Monday with a fresh episode of Fair. Have 581 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 2: a great weekend, everybody. We'll see you then.