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Speaker 1: Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks

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Speaker 1: Podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Wednesday, September twenty seventh,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. I'm J Skeets here in the Classic Factory.

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Speaker 1: Got my top shot, hot boy Trey Kirby. We got

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Speaker 1: the man making the magic happen, super producer JD. And

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Speaker 1: as you can see, we're missing a key member of

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Speaker 1: the team today and there's no way to sugarcoat this news,

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Speaker 1: so please bear with me, bear with us here as

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Speaker 1: we fill you in on where our guy Task is.

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Speaker 1: Last Wednesday, Task was struck by a vehicle while he

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Speaker 1: was walking on foot outside the Braves Stadium. Now, his

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Speaker 1: main injuries they're severe, they're concerning. He's got brain bleeds, fracture,

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Speaker 1: the skull fracture in his face. He's getting the best

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Speaker 1: treatment here in Atlanta possible. And while everything still day

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Speaker 1: to day, he has shown some positive progress already in

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Speaker 1: span of a week. Because this guy, he's tat smellous,

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Speaker 1: he's a stubborn mother. In fact, we even learned last

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Speaker 1: night that he's been moved already out of the ICU,

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Speaker 1: which is a huge step forward. You guys would have

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Speaker 1: had a chance to already see him. I'm going later today.

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Speaker 1: I was out of the country for a while, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was it was obviously a gut punch to all

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Speaker 1: of us. I'm sure to you, you know, listeners and

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Speaker 1: know you guys again, you saw him, and this is

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Speaker 1: gonna be a very likely long recovery here because these

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Speaker 1: were severe injuries, like I said, but he's already making

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Speaker 1: the steps forward here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's stable, he's alert, he's responsive.

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Speaker 1: He can move, he.

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Speaker 2: Can get up, he's been eating, he's talkative. But like

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Speaker 2: you're saying, Skeets, we don't have any sort of timeline

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Speaker 2: for a return, and we're just all being optimistic, hoping

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Speaker 2: and praying for the best, and said, we've seen a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he has a super wife and Danny obviously

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Speaker 1: So we are going to continue to try our best

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Speaker 1: to update you on Taska's status. In the meantime, we

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Speaker 1: have set up a GoFundMe page to sort of help

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Speaker 1: Tass's choice. But really we just wanted one place to

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Speaker 1: spot for fans to offer words of support as well.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to drop that that link in the

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Speaker 1: show notes after today's pod and again if you want

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Speaker 1: last night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's in the chat now if you're on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, just well wishes anything.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, JD anything to add. You got a chance

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Speaker 1: to see him yesterday.

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Speaker 3: I saw him yesterday. Yeah, he's making progress. He's nowhere

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Speaker 3: near out of the woods yet. Actually spoke to him

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Speaker 3: this morning. He is desperate to come in here and

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Speaker 3: do a show although he's noware ready, but yeah.

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Speaker 1: He should we get the stream yard set up in

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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, honestly, it may come to that,

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Speaker 3: because Danielle was like, can I please just have Task

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Speaker 3: call you and you can tell him that there's no

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Speaker 3: no bunch today and yeah, so he's, uh, he's in

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Speaker 3: rough shape, but he is on the mend. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Like you said, being out of the ICU is very

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Speaker 1: out to the stream team for joining us live here

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Speaker 1: We're gonna try to do a show because you know

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Speaker 1: So let's get into is this news? Our first one

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Speaker 1: Mark J. Spears, and the headline reads Raptors current front

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Speaker 2: What week?

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Speaker 2: Skeets? This is I don't know. This is month two

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Speaker 1: This is the messi Usurie playbook. This is the Raptors

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Speaker 2: Hey what you gotten there? We got some guys.

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Speaker 1: It's like the guy on your you know, your residency

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Speaker 1: We got pizza. We're eating pizza. But they're always just sticking. Hey,

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Speaker 1: This is like whether or not even the Raptors should

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Speaker 2: which is exactly what you're saying. The twenty eighteen Raptors,

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Speaker 2: You know, we never are picking the Heat to go

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to feel about this one. I

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Speaker 1: But as a Raptors fan, I feel I feel a

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Speaker 1: maybe a top four team that would be very shallow,

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Speaker 1: to decrease a little bit. As he gets up there

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Speaker 1: an agent at that contract. I like the pairing. Look

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Speaker 1: not like the Kawhi move, which wasn't a lot, like

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Speaker 1: Like you weren't like, if this goes poorly, which it didn't,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, is Og not just the defensive version of Jeremy

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we got to talk about your bulls as well,

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Speaker 1: because they have apparently emerged as a potential Damian Lillard destination.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. If the Raptors are the ra popping their head

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Speaker 2: don't understand why the Blazers would want Zach Levine if

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Speaker 2: they've been against getting Tyler Hero this entire time. Levine

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Speaker 2: But the Bulls, just like the Raptors, do have large

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Speaker 2: don't know. It just feels like Damian Lillard he looked

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Speaker 2: Today it's feeling like Heat raptors bulls, Right.

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Speaker 1: So what happens here? The Heat just increased their offer

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Speaker 1: the whispers of other potential trade packages for Damon Lillard

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Speaker 1: and maybe that puts some pressure on Miami's say okay, fine,

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Speaker 1: Uh, nobody wants exactly.

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Speaker 2: Even the Heater, like can we can we can you

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Speaker 2: definitely feels like the Blazers have to get other people

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Speaker 2: least be offered all seven of those things, take your

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Speaker 1: Just to circle back to the Raptors potential deal, I

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Speaker 1: want to make it clear if Massi Usurie and Bobby

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Speaker 1: We're you know we're talking. They would have to actually

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Speaker 1: But if it was just one, I'm doing that trade

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Speaker 1: I mean, you don't like that heat package. You obviously

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Speaker 2: You want to wing?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Right right? You want another Jeremy Grant just sort

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Speaker 1: and I think we will. I think he will be

430
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Speaker 1: playing for the Heat, and I think the Heat will

431
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,040
Speaker 1: either rope in a third or fourteen to maybe move

432
00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,720
Speaker 1: Hero or they'll just get a bigger return and feel

433
00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:24,280
Speaker 1: a little bit.

434
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Speaker 2: Better about it. That's my opinion on it. Media Day

435
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,040
Speaker 2: October second. People are trading this as kind of a

436
00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,200
Speaker 2: trade deadline for Damian Lillard because it would be tough

437
00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,040
Speaker 2: for the Blazers to start their next era with Scoot

438
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,200
Speaker 2: Henderson as their lead guy with the Lillard trade hanging

439
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,359
Speaker 2: over their heads when everybody knows it's gonna go down eventually.

440
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,480
Speaker 2: That's why we people have deadlines. That's how you actually

441
00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,919
Speaker 2: get things done. Yeah, you mentioned earlier, though, I was

442
00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 2: a little surprised to see the interest that the Suns

443
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,639
Speaker 2: have in somehow getting into Damian Lillard trade talks. So

444
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,920
Speaker 2: they can acquire use of Nurkic. That's surprising to me.

445
00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:01,280
Speaker 2: I understand there's been some tension with eighton. He probably

446
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 2: hasn't been the level of player they were expecting when

447
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,560
Speaker 2: they drafted in number one. He's gonna want more touches

448
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,719
Speaker 2: than Nurkic, but I think he's a significantly better player

449
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 2: than Nurkic is at this stage in their career. Basically,

450
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 2: ever since Nurkic broke his leg, he's not been the

451
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,200
Speaker 2: player he was, and not to mention, he's a lot

452
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 2: older now than when he was at his peak. So

453
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 2: that was a little surprising to me. Though it makes

454
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 2: sense from you know, splitting up Eton's contract into more players,

455
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,879
Speaker 2: which would help them, which would help the Suns. But

456
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 2: that was that was surprising to me. I don't necessarily

457
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,640
Speaker 2: know if I think Nurkic as the cornerstone of your defense,

458
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 2: he's taking you to a championship.

459
00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,439
Speaker 1: Right right, That's exactly what people saying, like, you're fining

460
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 1: the scoring department and we may not already have touches

461
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,120
Speaker 1: for rating, and we already know how he feels about that.

462
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 1: So let's get a defensive minded big in here. But

463
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 1: I don't immediately think of Nurkic as my defensive minded big.

464
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,480
Speaker 1: But Jake Fisher floated the Suns and the Jazz as

465
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 1: like a potential participant in a three team deal for Lillard.

466
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 1: And yeah, maybe the idea of Eaton. I mean, I

467
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 1: like the idea of a Eyton going to the Blazers

468
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,199
Speaker 1: something like if they can get him in sort of

469
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 1: some weird you know, three team or four team deal

470
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,880
Speaker 1: with Lillard, and I like that. But yeah, the nurk

471
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 1: to Phoenix is you know, it's a little confusing to me.

472
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,239
Speaker 2: It does seem buzzy though. I mean even you know,

473
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,880
Speaker 2: Suns reporters are reporting basically the same thing, that there's

474
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Speaker 2: definitely interest there. And Ayton's still a young guy with

475
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 2: easily double double potential, can be a really good defensive player.

476
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Speaker 2: And maybe if he's in a scenario where he's more

477
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,239
Speaker 2: valued than he has been in Phoenix, that helps. But

478
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 2: we shall see our guy.

479
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Speaker 1: Mike Sekerian team hole. He put it well. I saw

480
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 1: a tweet he said, every Dame trade rumor cycle goes

481
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 1: like this new team has entered the chat. New team

482
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,880
Speaker 1: actually a great fit for Damian Lillard. Oh, Dame might

483
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 1: not report to that new team. New team has a

484
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 1: great offer, though it's the best offer out there. Okay,

485
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 1: new team's gonna wait for Jannis instead. That's the cycle

486
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 1: for every team here. With these Damian Lillard trade rumors

487
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 1: that have been going on since July first, I think

488
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Speaker 1: July first, I said, I'm pretty sure. I said it

489
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Speaker 1: was gonna happen within like five days or something like that.

490
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Speaker 2: You've gone on like four trips where you're like, I'm

491
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,719
Speaker 2: going on a trip, Damian Lillard's gonna be tree. Oh,

492
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Speaker 2: I know this one. I'm gonna leave this weekend.

493
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm in Italy and I'm saying, oh my god,

494
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 1: my team's gonna trade for It's crazy. But let's hear

495
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,439
Speaker 1: your thoughts out there on the idea of him going

496
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 1: to the Raptors the Raptors trade package. What do you

497
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 1: think about this Heat thing. I know we're tired talking

498
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 1: about it, but man, there's a lot of opinions on

499
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,159
Speaker 1: that one. People think it's the poop poop platter that

500
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: the Heat are offering, and then other people counter, no,

501
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with it. Uh, it just gets you

502
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 1: a hero. So you tell us got some other trade

503
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 1: trade talk Were you just checking to see Damian Little

504
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 1: got trade? Yeah?

505
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 2: I just threw a quick one in. Who knows this

506
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 2: good idea?

507
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,400
Speaker 1: This one by way of the athletic the headline Pacers

508
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: and Buddy Heald have begun talks to find a potential trade.

509
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: Is this new?

510
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Speaker 2: I think this is news depending on if Buddy Heeld

511
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Speaker 2: actually gets traded to a contender, because I think he

512
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 2: could help a contender. Buddy Healed is a good player.

513
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Speaker 2: At the very least, I would say he's a starter

514
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Speaker 2: for most teams. He started most games or the Pacers,

515
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 2: and after Steph Curry, you can easily make an argument

516
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 2: the Buddy Heeld is the second best shooter in the league. Like,

517
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 2: over the past five seasons, he's made more threes than

518
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 2: anybody I know, and he does it basically every way

519
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 2: you can get three pointers. Does it off the dribble,

520
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 2: brings the ball up, shoots threes, shoots them from deep, dribble, handoffs,

521
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 2: movement corners, like, he can do it all. And he's

522
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 2: a really great knockdown guy. Forty percent. He's basically just

523
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 2: a shooter, but he elite shooter. An elite shooter. Yeah,

524
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Speaker 2: you're not getting a lot of defense. You're not getting

525
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 2: a lot of playmaking. Though if Buddy Heald is like

526
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 2: your worst defender in the starting lineup, you're probably doing okay.

527
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 2: He'll be targeted, but you can probably make up for it,

528
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 2: which is why when you see the teams that have

529
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 2: interests as reported by Sham's the MAVs, the Sixers, and

530
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 2: the Bucks, the Sixers and the Bucks make a lot

531
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Speaker 2: of sense to me because they do need additional three

532
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 2: point shooting, uh, just with the way their teams are

533
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 2: built around Embiid and Yannis, and I think they could

534
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 2: both cover for Healed defensively as well, where he's not

535
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Speaker 2: going to be needed to guard the best perimeter player

536
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 2: out there. So six or some Bucks definitely make a

537
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,199
Speaker 2: little bit more sense to me. The Bucks are a

538
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 2: little bit odd because the trade that most people are

539
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 2: suggesting would be Grayson Allen and Pat Connaton going to

540
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 2: Indiana for Buddy held picks included as well probably a

541
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 2: first rounder heading to Indiana seems like a lot to me,

542
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,119
Speaker 2: and all the talk around the Bucks has been that

543
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 2: they need to get younger and more athletic. They would

544
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 2: be trading probably their two best perimeter athletes in Grayson

545
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 2: Allen and Pat Connaton for an older guy and Buddy held.

546
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 2: But if he ends up on the right team, I

547
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 2: can see Buddy Heeld being a contributor.

548
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're at this point because the Pacers apparently offered

549
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 1: Healed an extension in the last couple of weeks. But

550
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 1: that proposal didn't make Buddy feel comfortable. Maybe it wasn't

551
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: enough that he was desired enough. He's in the last

552
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,959
Speaker 1: year of his contract this season, nineteen point two million,

553
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 1: and you know, if he hits free agency, he'll be

554
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: one of the bigger free agents next summer if he

555
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: goes on that path. Now, no deal is imminent here,

556
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 1: like they've just we're just hearing that. Okay, we're looking

557
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 1: to move him because again this extension, we're not going

558
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:07,959
Speaker 1: to come to a number we all agree on. So

559
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: maybe we get something that Pacers get something in return,

560
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: and he could help a team. You said he could

561
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: be the second best three point shooter in the NBA.

562
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: It sounds crazy. I mean you're like, Okay, Steph is

563
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: obviously number one. Well what about Clay? But you know

564
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: there were some injuries there, and you just said it

565
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: like this guy takes a lot of three point attempts

566
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 1: and he hits him at a high clip forty percent.

567
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: Over the last six seasons, he's forty point three percent

568
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 1: from deep on over eight attempts per game. Like those

569
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: are Curry like numbers. That is wild. In fact, I

570
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: read this, it blew my mind. He's one of eight

571
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 1: players Buddy heeled is to make at least seventeen hundred

572
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: career threes on at least forty percent shooting from deep,

573
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Speaker 1: Ray Allen, Steph Curry, Klay Thompson, Dale Ellis, Kyle Korver,

574
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: JJ Reddick, and Patri Soyakovic. That is some absurd shooting company.

575
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 2: That's a list.

576
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Speaker 1: Step Buddy is in there. So whatever team he's going to,

577
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: I mean, he's going to help them in the three

578
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 1: point department in terms of just pure attempts and makes

579
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: an obviously percentage because you can, like, I mean, you

580
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: can put it in penel most that he's gonna shoot

581
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 1: basically forty percent from three. I don't know why that's

582
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: gonna disappear on every other team. So you could see

583
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,719
Speaker 1: why there'd be a desire across a lot of these

584
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,719
Speaker 1: squad especially ones that are like we feel like, yeah,

585
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: another shooter, be it starting or off the bench, could

586
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: get us over a bit of a hump.

587
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Lakers are a team who was interested in

588
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 2: Buddy Heel last trade deadline and last off season. Makes

589
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 2: sense there, though they're running out of stuff to trade

590
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 2: at this point. The Raptors, I think, make a little

591
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 2: bit of sense.

592
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

593
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 2: I think he's a minor upgrade over Gary Trent Junior

594
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 2: at the very least. And I suppose the Magic could

595
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 2: get into the mix. They need some three point shooting

596
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 2: around all of their young guys there. But yeah, Buddy

597
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 2: Heel never played in the playoffs yet. That's pretty crazy.

598
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 2: I mean, he started with Sacramento back when they were

599
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 2: not good. He comes to the Pacers as part of

600
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 2: the Tyrese Haliburton trade. They had an awesome season last year,

601
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 2: but they're back court at least looks settled for the

602
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 2: future with Halliburton, Mathurin and Andrew Nembhard, So maybe minutes

603
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 2: will be squeezed there, which is probably why they aren't

604
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 2: offering him a big extension. But I saw their GM

605
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 2: also said we'd love to have Buddy around. He's a

606
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 2: great locker room guy. He's good vibes and He's a

607
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 2: great shooter. The Pacers need great shooting too. There will

608
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 2: probably still be a market for Buddy Heeld come trade

609
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 2: deadline time. You know, much like Malik Beasley was a

610
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: soft after name. He's way better than Malik Beasley. So

611
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised to see Healed come to camp

612
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 2: with the Pacers, play with them for a little bit,

613
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 2: and then as we get further onto the season, maybe

614
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,959
Speaker 2: a contenders like we need a little bit more shooting,

615
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 2: we could get Buddy Healed for our first round pick

616
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 2: and matching salary. I could see that happening.

617
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: So where do you think, if you if what do

618
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: you think he'll end up be it either before the

619
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,719
Speaker 1: start of the season or even like you're saying, as

620
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: it bleeds into closer to the deadline, where would you

621
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: guess or where do you want to see him?

622
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: Uh? I'm waiting in Milwaukee, Yeah, I just there just

623
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: seems to be like with Giannis's comments, with the fact

624
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 2: that they brought everybody back in Brook Lopez, in Chris Middleton, changed,

625
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 2: their coach changes are afoot in Milwaukee, and they're gonna

626
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 2: want to do everything they can to make their team

627
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 2: as competitive as they can. And I think that despite

628
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 2: having some reservations about Buddy Hiel as a defender, I

629
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 2: think he would be an upgrade over Alan and Connaton.

630
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: And there you go. Then they got something to like

631
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: rally the team around. This guy's never even been to

632
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: the playoffs, let alone win championships. So let's go do it.

633
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: Do it for Buddy, for Fresh, do it for Buddy,

634
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: for Buddy? What are the other buddies?

635
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: Fresh Love and buckets? That's it?

636
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: Thank you for always reminding me. I love that. Do

637
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 1: you get all three in the deal or are they

638
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: the Pacer just keeping one back? They're keeping Buddy Love.

639
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 2: If I'm training for all free buddies, I'm making sure

640
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 2: they're throwing in buckets, And I would like I would

641
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 2: prefer Love over Fresh. But you know, take a pick.

642
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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, well let's hear from you guys. Where

643
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: do you think Buddy Heel would be a good fit

644
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: on what team? And what potential trade package could you

645
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: see coming back to to the Pacers. We gotta take

646
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: a break, but when we come back into the updown report,

647
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: All right, let's get into the updown report.

648
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Speaker 2: It's yeah, baby, got a few little topics here for

649
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 2: you skates. I'll throw matches. You tell me if you're

650
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 2: up or down. We got a new old jersey alert.

651
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 2: The Timberwolves are gonna be wearing their inaugural jerseys from

652
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 2: the nineteen eighty nine to ninety season for this upcoming

653
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 2: twenty three twenty four season. They wore these white jerseys

654
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: from eighty nine to ninety six.

655
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Speaker 1: Shout out to Doug West.

656
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 2: Big shout out to Doug West. Up or down on

657
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 2: these skeats, I'm a big time thumbs up.

658
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually love these. Uh, you know the nostalgic factor, sure,

659
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: but they're just clean.

660
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 2: Man.

661
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: Those are just crisp Christy, I mean nas reed. Though

662
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: this guy never takes off his owndershirt. He's like me,

663
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, my guns aren't big enough. I

664
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: got you, nas, I gotta wear the undershirt. But no,

665
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: these are these are nice. I like the I love them.

666
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, these I think these look awesome. We saw they

667
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 2: had like the Wave ones, which are gonna be what

668
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: they're City Edition.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I like those two.

670
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Timberwolves are looking good. I think these look

671
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 2: in credible. Should have a short on this in sometime

672
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 2: in the next couple of weeks here, But you mentioned

673
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 2: Doug West. Got any other favorite random timberwolves from.

674
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: Back in the day? I mean sam Mitchell, I guess

675
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: sam Mitchell.

676
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 2: There you go Kg's vet.

677
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, who else wore those? You said eighty nine? So

678
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: they were them that long?

679
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, they weren't for quite something, Like was goog wearing those? Google?

680
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 2: I got a half season and half Yeah, this is

681
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: a pre barble wire tattoo. Kevin Gardat played one season

682
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: and these I think as well. And then they switched

683
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 2: to the ones with like all the trees the outside,

684
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 2: which do you think is like the classic iconic these ones?

685
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: There are inaugural ones, which, like you're saying, pretty clean, yeah,

686
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 2: pretty straightforward. I would say, very much a throwback NBA

687
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: uniform or the ones that I definitely identify with Kevin Garnett,

688
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 2: which are you know, like yeah, the timber around those

689
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 2: are trim.

690
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: Those ones are the ones that I most associate with

691
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: the with the Wolves because it was like the small

692
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: window they had actually success and they were cool and

693
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: they're you know, on the covered slam and stuff like

694
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: that with marbur and all that. So yeah, I would

695
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: go but I like these. I like these, I like

696
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: you said with the other ones that we saw, the

697
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: water edition ones with that rapper that we never heard of.

698
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 2: What was his name, young Gravy?

699
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: Is that right? I don't know, it sounds right, little snacks.

700
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: They have a nice set going. They got a nice

701
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: Minnesota so thumbs up.

702
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, they look good. Job. In other Classic Jersey news,

703
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: the Utah Jazz will also be wearing throwback jerseys to

704
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 2: honor their fiftieth season of an NBA basketball Jazz are

705
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 2: gonna be wearing these uniforms from their debut season in

706
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 2: New Orleans, the seventy four to seventy five seasons. Skeets

707
00:32:58,640 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 2: you upper down on these.

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00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: I don't have much of an opinion on them. I

709
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: guess I'm up. I do like the note, like I

710
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: think they're like exact replicas. That's what they say of

711
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Jazz, you know, like that that that

712
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: funky little note there on the jazz, the j for

713
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: the jazz, like they're finely. I like the purple, and

714
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: we know they're doing the mountains as well, right, they're

715
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: doing one of those.

716
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: Like they've got the.

717
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: Craziest set when you think about it, all their different

718
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: types of looks and colors. But I don't know, it's

719
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: it's fine, it's whatever. Like I saw the court they're

720
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: gonna have. Yeah, I think they're doing a cool like

721
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: like they're doing a seventies.

722
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 2: Night, seventies night doing an eighties night.

723
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: So like I like that, I like leaning into the

724
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: whole thing. But sure they're fine. Yeah, what do you think?

725
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: I would say?

726
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 2: Fine? In general? Sideways thumb but thumbs up for wearing

727
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: purple uniforms. Yeah, I do like them. Yeah, looking in

728
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 2: their purples, I guess they haven't. I was looking sports

729
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: logos dot net, the Chris Kreamer website. Oh yeah, h incredible, man,

730
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 2: Like I could just spend hours just looking at old jerseys.

731
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 2: So I did, and apparently, Utah, I think of them

732
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 2: as a purple team. I don't know about you, but

733
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 2: they haven't had like regular purple uniforms since two thousand

734
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: and four, because you think that.

735
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: Like that was when they have the blue versions, like

736
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: they had that blue era, the Darren Williams era. Yeah,

737
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: then like the Paul millsap era was navy blue, and

738
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: now they're wearing black and yellow basically. So I much

739
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: more appreciate the purple so I'm happy to see these.

740
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: And also technically these aren't the Stockton and Malone ones.

741
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: These are the pistol pe Yeah, these are funy to see.

742
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: These are New Orleans. So each team, by the way,

743
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: if you're trying to keep track, they have four different

744
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: jerseys cause you have you have your home, the Association,

745
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:45,919
Speaker 1: you have the road, the icon, you have the city,

746
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: the alternate, and you classic. Okay, so the classics are

747
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: like usually tied to anniversaries. Hence like that fiftieth anniversary

748
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: for the New Orleans Jazz there and the cities they

749
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: can change each season, which is why you get all

750
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 1: these things. Anyway, we're showing you the before I guess

751
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: new jerseys that we actually know of, and they're basically

752
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: all throwbacks, right, I mean, it's Charlotte, it's Minnesota, it's Orlando,

753
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: uh and it's now here in Utah slash New Orleans.

754
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I imagine we're gonna be seeing a lot more

755
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: new jerseys than this week and next week with people

756
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 2: back to media.

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00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: I've already seen some leaks, Trey, that creamer's been leaking. Well,

758
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: I mean I was sticky like the creamer in the fridge.

759
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: I don't have to go dirty.

760
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, still I don't like the stickiness in my

761
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: it is to clean out the inside of a fridge.

762
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 2: I had a watermelon explode once and we just charged

763
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 2: that to the game the fridge to get ahold new fridge.

764
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: Easier to carry a fridge out than clean up a

765
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: watermelon does suck. You know, we probably don't clean our

766
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: fridges enough.

767
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: When you think about it. That's so true, because it's

768
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 2: a pain in the ass. All right, next talk back

769
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 2: up or down on cleaning your fridge. Everybody's down on

770
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 2: that one, but you gotta do it. You gotta do

771
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 2: it up. Anyways. The NBA is gonna be streaming some

772
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 2: of its games live on Max this season. Apparently there's

773
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 2: gonna be a Bleacher Report sports add on package. It's

774
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 2: free for current subscribers till February twenty twenty four. It'll

775
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 2: be nine ninety nine in March, but you're gonna be

776
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,439
Speaker 2: getting two opening Night NBA games, sixty five regular season games,

777
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 2: the n Season Tournament, All Star Saturday, and the All

778
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 2: Star Game, and the playoffs including the entire Western Conference Finals.

779
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 2: Skeith your upper down on Max showing NBA games. What

780
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 2: the fuck did.

781
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: They call it just Max? Look at this? Look at

782
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: how ridiculous this looks like, Hey, our buddy Max is

783
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: showing the NBA game to over come on over. Uh,

784
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 1: We're gonna clean the fridge and then watch a game. Okay,

785
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: I guess I'm up on this because I at first

786
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: I was concerned. I was like, hold on, now we're

787
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: gonna have a whole other thing where I gotta have

788
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: Max to watch these opening night games and these regular

789
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: season games, like you said in the nd season tournament.

790
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 1: But this is just like in addition to right, these

791
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: will be on linear network still, they'll be in your

792
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: TNT on your TNTs and all that. So if you

793
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 1: have that, you're fine. So this is just another obviously

794
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: option here where you can stream it on the Max.

795
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: So I guess, I mean, I don't know, I'll probably

796
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: have to be doing it at some point, but you know,

797
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: Warner Brothers man, Max, keep like, just keep the HBO.

798
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 2: Let's just keep the h the NBA on HBO. It

799
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 2: does sound cool, well HBO, Max, I mean, but uh,

800
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 2: we all want HBO in.

801
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 1: There, yeah, don't we? Yeah, it's weird calling it just Max.

802
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, totally that's like, of all of their associated brands,

803
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, Cinemax is the one I'm least interested in. Yes,

804
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 2: call a showtime and I'd be even happy.

805
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 1: Yes.

806
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 2: My only question for this is like, does this then

807
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 2: lead to ESPN following suit and somehow bundling their actual

808
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 2: premium live sports content uh into a bundle as well?

809
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: But probably Yeah.

810
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 2: I mean, this Bleacher Report package is gonna be serious

811
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 2: because they got MLB games that are going to be

812
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 2: starting I think with the NLDS coming up here and

813
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 2: not too long, they're going to have the NHL season

814
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 2: and I think they have the Stanley Cup Final for that,

815
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 2: and then most importantly, they got March Madness. Like you're

816
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 2: gonna be able to watch March Madness games on Max

817
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 2: Madness to the Mas literally Mad Max. I don't know

818
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 2: if that's a warner of property, but I mean that's

819
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 2: a big deal. Like you're saying, it will still be

820
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 2: on linear stuff, but it's interesting to see if that

821
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 2: will lead to full on streaming packages where you can

822
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 2: actually watch the national NBA games without having a TV package.

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00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be that. You're I mean, you're

824
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: what you're predicting is going to be happening. It already

825
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: is as we're seeing here. I mean, I guess I'm

826
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 1: thumbs up overall. Sure, Max, where do you think you're

827
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: gonna watch your games?

828
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 2: You think you're gonna like turn on t I'd like

829
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 2: to think I'll watch one half on TNT in the

830
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 2: second half on Max.

831
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: Very cool, because I you know, I want to keep

832
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: everybody in business, and you know, just spread spread my

833
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: eyeballs around. Maybe I'll watch one left eyeball on TN

834
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 1: T right eyeball on Max.

835
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 2: That sounds but uh, if they've got John Oliver calling

836
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 2: the games, that'd be awesome.

837
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: Tell you what, these better be synced up.

838
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 2: They better be sinnking.

839
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: I don't want my Twitter feed telling me something that's

840
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 1: happening fifteen seconds in advance on Max or TNT or

841
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: you know whatever whatever the opposite one I'm watching. Yeah,

842
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: they better being the worst you ever been?

843
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 2: Like out, you know, like out at a place and

844
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 2: they're showing a game on TV, but then somebody's watching

845
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 2: it on their phone and somehow they're not linked up.

846
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 2: How does that even make sense? I don't get it.

847
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 2: I don't get it. This is the new ATMs. How

848
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 2: does internet networks work in other HBO NBA news HBO.

849
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 2: The network has canceled Winning Time after two seasons, after

850
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 2: just seventeen episodes. The series about the rise of the

851
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 2: Lakers dynasty awkwardly ends with the Boston Celtics winning the

852
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty four NBA Finals. Skets You're up or down

853
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: on Winning Time being canceled.

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00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: Uh, it would be a weird thing to go thumbs

855
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: up on this, so I will go thumbs down. I

856
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 1: will admit I never really got into the show in

857
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: season one. People tell me season two got a lot better,

858
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: for sure, So maybe I should go back and and

859
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,959
Speaker 1: sort of finish season one and then and then fire

860
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: up season two. Here wasn't a season one where we

861
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: had a bunch of like Lakers great sand This is

862
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: a terrible portrayal of me. Jerry West was pissed and.

863
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 2: Chuck Jerry West was like threatening to sue. At some

864
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 2: point I saw Magic Johnson was asked about, Uh, Winning

865
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 2: Time being canceled, and he's like, I didn't watch that.

866
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 2: Nobody watched that. Nobody from the Lakers was in on it.

867
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: And they definitely gave the vibe that they didn't really

868
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 2: approve of the way they were all being portrayed, except

869
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 2: for Spencer. Heywo, I suppose was pretty happy with the

870
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 2: way he was portrayed. But I think not having the

871
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 2: buy in from the majority of the Lakers from that

872
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 2: era probably hurt winning times case here because you know

873
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: that came out and then suddenly the Lakers put out

874
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 2: an entire documentary like The Real Story.

875
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually watched that. I mean, I don't know,

876
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: I'm more of a documentary guy, but yeah, I mean, no,

877
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: they're gonna spin it like the Lane. Well that's right,

878
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 1: that's right. But yeah, but people say the second season

879
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: was a lot better and like a lot of like, uh,

880
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: you know, respect to the the actors that were playing,

881
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: like you know, Magic Johnson and create Abdul Jabbar and

882
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: like that's not easy do Larry Byrd? I guess, wasn't

883
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: that supposed to be Bo Burnham a long time ago?

884
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: I remember he was gonna be Larry Byrd and then

885
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: he decided against it. But yeah, and thumbs down on this,

886
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: like no one wants to see people obviously lose jobs

887
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: that are creating this show. So sucks and people were

888
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: bummed out because yeah, the Celtics win the Championship. That's

889
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: so it ends.

890
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 2: That's how it ends. That's not how Lakers show.

891
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: Do you think another network will like acquire the rights

892
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: and like run with it?

893
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 2: Okay, you want me to give you a silver lining

894
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 2: thumbs up case here? Okay, Now that it's been canceled,

895
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 2: people know it's over. I gotta go watch it and

896
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 2: see what actually happens. I'm like you, Skeets. I started

897
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 2: watching it, it didn't totally hook me, But now that

898
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 2: I know it has an end point, I could see

899
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 2: dipping in and watching it, especially because, like you're saying,

900
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 2: people said second season was really good. I know the

901
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 2: finale episode is basically like a blow by blow recounting

902
00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 2: of the nineteen eighty four Finals went seven games, huge

903
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 2: moment in the Lakers versus Celtics dynasty. So maybe people

904
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 2: go back like me and say, yeah, I'm gonna watch

905
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 2: this and actually see what it's all about. Watch the

906
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 2: whole thing. Maybe that does well streaming wise, which then

907
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 2: entices another network to take a chance on it and

908
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 2: then continue the story and tell it the way that

909
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 2: they wanted to be told. That being said, it does

910
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 2: seem like an expensive show regards to all the extras.

911
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 2: They have to have the locations, the actors, like getting

912
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 2: the right actors to play these guys who actually know

913
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 2: how to play basketball and that kind of stuff. But

914
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 2: we shall see. I think I will watch it at

915
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 2: some point.

916
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: I think I will too. I think you're right there, JD.

917
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: Did you watch Winning Time? Did you ever give it

918
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 1: a go?

919
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

920
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 2: I did.

921
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 3: I watched three episodes.

922
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: That's about what I've done. Yeah, same here. What happened?

923
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: Well that third episode that didn't hook.

924
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 3: Us, well, it was awful. I mean that's the that's

925
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 3: the bottom line. Like the first three episodes that I watched,

926
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 3: they were like in like very other than the actors.

927
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 3: The actors are great, except for the one Jerry Buss

928
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 3: they have I think they should have is it Jerry Buss? Yeah,

929
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 3: yeah it was supposed to be or Will Farrell wanted it?

930
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 2: Oh yes, that's right, John c Riley got it.

931
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: Yeah.

932
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 2: Friendship over the wrong step brother, wrong brother fair?

933
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 3: I mean why why? Anyways, it was a disjointed mess.

934
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,959
Speaker 3: I thought the performance was good, but very very excruciating

935
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 3: to sit through. Like I just kept waiting for, you know,

936
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 3: something to happen. Yeah, and it never did. And I

937
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 3: wanted to like this show. I was actually looking forward

938
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 3: to it. Yeah, I was trailers into it.

939
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 1: And it's based off Jeff Pearlman's Showtime Boy. Yeah right right,

940
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 1: so okay, well, way we got it fired all back.

941
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 3: On and no, I can't, I can't, you can't. There's

942
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 3: too many shows.

943
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 2: There's a lot of shows.

944
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:47,479
Speaker 1: Oh you want a good show?

945
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

946
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: It saved me on the flight back from Italy because

947
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: that's a long flight, right, it's like nine ten hour flight.

948
00:43:53,080 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 1: They had all of eighteen eighty three, the Yellowstone prequel. Amazing,

949
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: so good guys on a plane at least perfect. We

950
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: went through eight episodes. We got eight episodes on that

951
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: entire flight.

952
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 2: The only one season in Yeah, there's.

953
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: Only one season of eighteen eighty three. I think nineteen

954
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: twenty three, like the Harrison Ford one, the other prequel

955
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 1: of the Duttons, That one I think is maybe doing

956
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: the second season. But we on the way to Italy

957
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 1: we watched four episodes of that. That was all they

958
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: had as the teas on Delta of nineteen twenty three. Yeah,

959
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: it was fine, it was okay, yeah, but then we

960
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: were like, oh we saw eighteen eighty three the whole season.

961
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: If this is good, we're gonna be set or you know,

962
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: we're doing the lame little like pause same time, Like

963
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: I can't stand seeing you want to talk about being

964
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: out of sick man. It's like HBO Max and TNT.

965
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 1: But it drives me nuts. It drives me a barker.

966
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: She doesn't care at all. She's like, just look at

967
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: your screen, like I can't know you're yeah, it's right,

968
00:44:59,200 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: it's right there.

969
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 2: So anyway, we.

970
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: Watched eight episodes, like I said, and it was really good.

971
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: It's Tim mcgrad faith Hill. Are you staying on my white?

972
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: They got some acting shops.

973
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 2: Tim can do it all.

974
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 1: I mean, there are a couple in the in the show.

975
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 3: Did they sing at all? A way? What a way?

976
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: Still singing in eighteen eighty three trails Man?

977
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 3: Yeah?

978
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: Exactly?

979
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 3: What are they doing on that car? They're just sitting

980
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 3: there looking straight ahead?

981
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 1: This is the Wild West.

982
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 2: Man.

983
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: Every episode you're like, oh my god, now what Like

984
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: the tornado was like the best thing that happened. That's

985
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 1: how extreme all the other things were happening.

986
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 3: Anyone get dissenter.

987
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to spoil it. I already said too

988
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: much with it sounds like.

989
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,320
Speaker 2: Yes, only interesting thing I've watched recently was Don't Worry

990
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 2: Darling and dumb movie Darling.

991
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, it's like a mediocre episode of the

992
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 3: Twilight Zone.

993
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly right, Yeah it was. It's the one

994
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 2: that's like Libya wild and Florence, Harry Styles and Chris.

995
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 3: Chris all the afterwards.

996
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe he spent on Harry Style, that's but yeah,

997
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 2: those stories. I would say, we're the best thing to

998
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 2: come out of this movie. Yeah, it is a skippable,

999
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: skippable one.

1000
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: Okay, Well tell us, uh your thoughts on Winning Time?

1001
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: Were you a fan? Are you upset? And uh? What

1002
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: other shows we should be watching? And take my eighteen

1003
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: eighty three recommendation trust me, because yellow Stone is not done?

1004
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 3: Is it?

1005
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 1: Like? What's going on?

1006
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 3: Think Costner left? But Costner's gone easily. He left. Yeah,

1007
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 3: it was a big thing. I've only watched one season

1008
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 3: a Yellows done. Do I need to watch the rest

1009
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 3: of them?

1010
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: I like it? I mean it's a dumb soap.

1011
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, But do I need to love Wild West in

1012
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 3: the Country too? I love it.

1013
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: I'm a sucker for you.

1014
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, But do I need to watch all of

1015
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 3: it before I go to eighteen twenty three or eighteen

1016
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 3: twenty three.

1017
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: Couple, that's not a year. Well, that's a year, not year.

1018
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 3: What's the name of this?

1019
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: It's nineteen twenty three and then eighteen eighty three Tim McGraw,

1020
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: faithful and some crazy cameos. I already spoiled the cameo

1021
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,240
Speaker 1: for you. I mean, this actor is in one scene

1022
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: and it blow your you do a triple take. We

1023
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 1: literally did a triple take. We're like, we're looking at

1024
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: each other like is that who I think it is?

1025
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: And then you're like, Okay, so this actor is gonna

1026
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:27,720
Speaker 1: be He's gonna be in the show more one scene.

1027
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 2: Wow, I can't believe they had the budget for Tom Green.

1028
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: All right, we gotta take a break up, doown report.

1029
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: Let's see those thumbs out there in the world. Yeah,

1030
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: I read that, like, what are they doing? Why are

1031
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: they doing that to me? Selling satin sheets from Shopify's

1032
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: in person POS system.

1033
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 2: I've heard it like an EVO extra virgin olive oil,

1034
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 2: but this is ev.

1035
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:59,959
Speaker 1: Oh offering organic olive oil. Oh, we made it. Let's

1036
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: to tweet of the night.

1037
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 3: Tweet out the night.

1038
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 2: Wow, the night.

1039
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 1: More like Instagram on the weekend.

1040
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 2: Okay for being honest, here skeets Trey Young is the

1041
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 2: newest co owner of a Major league pickleball team, apparently

1042
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 2: bought in to the Atlanta Bouncers of Major League Pickleball.

1043
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 2: Everybody knows who's on the bouncers, Paris Todd, Hunter Johnson,

1044
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 2: Pablo Telez, and Simone Jardine.

1045
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: Everybody knows that their.

1046
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 2: Team duper rating is twenty four point eighty seven. But

1047
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,760
Speaker 2: what you maybe didn't know is that Atlanta's equally famous

1048
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 2: bar scene serves as the inspiration for the team name

1049
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 2: the Bouncers, the Atlanta Bouncers. I like it, Yeah, great

1050
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 2: name with regards to pickleball. The ball bounces. They have

1051
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 2: bouncers at bars here. I think it's pretty hilarious. They're

1052
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 2: named after bouncers at a bar. But the reason we

1053
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 2: bring this up JD. Yeah, you went to a Major

1054
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 2: League Pickleball I did a vet here in Atlanta this.

1055
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:01,919
Speaker 3: Weekend Championship Sunday. I didn't see Trey. I did talk

1056
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 3: to the GM of the Atlanta Bouncers, by the way,

1057
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 3: and yeah, and I was like, hey, is he actually

1058
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 3: does he play? Is he into it?

1059
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: Trey Young.

1060
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, Trey Young, because you know, you never know, it

1061
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:17,399
Speaker 3: could be just an investment, you know, But she said

1062
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 3: he was he is so Trey Young. He came two days.

1063
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,319
Speaker 3: It's a four days. He came to two of the

1064
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 3: four days.

1065
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, I saw Trey Young as well recently. Well,

1066
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: I guess you said you don't see him.

1067
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 3: I didn't see him.

1068
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: Now he was with Drake last night. Oh, I think

1069
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 1: he walked. You know, Drake's doing this thing where he

1070
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: walks down with somebody from the city. I think Trey

1071
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: walked with him for show one. But I went to

1072
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: show two last night. Bow Wow. I know he walked

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00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 1: with him, But Trey Young was there.

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00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Okay, anyway, he didn't have a pickleball shirt

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00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 3: on though ball By the way, I went to try

1076
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 3: to get that pickleball shirt. That shirt, it's great.

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00:49:59,200 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 1: It's a cool logo.

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00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 3: And they had like the team is mostly the majority

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00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 3: owner is Anheuser Busch.

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00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: Ok.

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00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 3: So they had their own stand with selling merch and

1082
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 3: all the rest of the merch was garbage like in

1083
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 3: the regular merch side. But I was like, we walked in,

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00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:19,959
Speaker 3: we saw them, and then we were like center court

1085
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,720
Speaker 3: pretty close. So we didn't want to move. Like Rachel

1086
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 3: and I were taking turns like you go get food

1087
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 3: and then I'll come you come back and I'm gonna

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00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 3: go get those those shirts. Like half it was noon

1089
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,240
Speaker 3: and they had packed up and it was gone. Everybody

1090
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 3: was gone, like the whole And so then I went

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00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 3: back to the GM of the Atlanta bouncer, It's like,

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00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 3: what the hell? Where did where all the merch go?

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00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 3: And they're like, oh, they had to catch flight, like what.

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00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 3: But to be fair, the Atlanta bouncers, they they I

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00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,280
Speaker 3: didn't think I don't think they won a single game

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00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 3: that weekend. So they were like, let's get out of here.

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00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 3: But they're also selling you know, michelob balls he or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Will you be trying out for the bouncers?

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00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:04,359
Speaker 3: No, but Rachel might.

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00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 2: At the very least, I see a lane for you

1102
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 2: to become like the shams of Major League pick could

1103
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 2: Yeah with the Atlanta right, you're right, wow, I wonder.

1104
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: If somebody's carving that out right now?

1105
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 3: Probably, yeah, I mean it should be me. I got one.

1106
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 3: There's what I think, thirty more, thirty more gms. I

1107
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 3: have to na. Well, there's two leagues. There's the nobody cares.

1108
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 3: Trey Young does, He's into it.

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00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 1: Atlanta Bouncers not a bad uh, not a bad logo there,

1110
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,239
Speaker 1: like that one with the claw around the ball.

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00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1112
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1113
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 3: The two worst logos are the Slice Sorry, that's Chicago Slice.

1114
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 3: It's literally a slice of pizza like a cartoon. Hey,

1115
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 3: a slice pizza.

1116
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: Holding a paddle or anything.

1117
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 3: He might be holding a paddle. Yeah, good question. And

1118
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 3: the other one is the Champs of the Weekend. The

1119
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:05,240
Speaker 3: Orlando Squeeze is basically an orange. Hey, big, big orange.

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Speaker 2: That's good.

1121
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 1: What's the best name?

1122
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 3: The best name on the spot, I like. The best

1123
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 3: name by far is the l A Mad Drops I

1124
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 3: do I have? And their logo is like Luke Wilson's

1125
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 3: character from Uh Royal tannem Bombs. It's like long, it's

1126
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 3: not him, but it's it's like a profile of a

1127
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 3: guy like him. He's wearing like, uh, he's got a

1128
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 3: headband on. Yeah, look it up, it's cream.

1129
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: I see this sounds cool.

1130
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's awesome. And Mad Drops it's like that's it's

1131
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 3: a move in pickleball to drop the ball. It's awesome.

1132
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,439
Speaker 1: Oh, that's that's what it's named after.

1133
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:45,280
Speaker 3: It's a movie.

1134
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay, this is this is cool. You like

1135
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: hash what's his name in the movie?

1136
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, Pickleball is cool.

1137
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: You know, it's also cool. Survivor coming back to NIGHTD

1138
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: That caught me by surprise. Yep, I'm not gonna lie.

1139
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 1: There he is Jeff Probes, Survivor forty five is back.

1140
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: It's ninety minute episodes this year, oh boy, and we

1141
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: will be here tomorrow from the factory for No Buffs

1142
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: Episode one recap. So No Bus has its own YouTube feed,

1143
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: its own podcast feed. We recap the episode. We have

1144
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 1: a lot of laughs, and the first one's always a

1145
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 1: blast because we're trying to figure out like who we like,

1146
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: you know, make our predictions. We generally avoid all pregame

1147
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: yeah sort of stuff. I just for some reason, I

1148
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:42,479
Speaker 1: don't know.

1149
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 3: I don't need it. It's more pure, it's more pure.

1150
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 3: I like to be introduced to the cast like everybody else.

1151
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: I will say, with the ninety minute episodes, we are

1152
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: getting the iconic title sequence back. Jeff Probe said every

1153
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 1: episode and there will be an Easter egg hidden in

1154
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: every episodes title sequence. That's what he said. So we're

1155
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: gonna be like really locked. Yeah, yeah, yeah, war has

1156
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: got book club tonight.

1157
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:13,760
Speaker 3: So good, all right, perfect, and the return of Esh

1158
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,839
Speaker 3: will be in studio okay, he will be producing at

1159
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 3: the desk our new colleague by the way.

1160
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:24,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to our guy Esh hired by the Athletic.

1161
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 3: Yeah smart move official. Yeah that's awesome.

1162
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: So yes, Esh will be here with us in the

1163
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: Factory live at one pm Eastern for our No Buffs

1164
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: premiere episode of Survivor forty five. Can't wait, can't wait

1165
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: to watch it, can't wait to see Jeff Probes light

1166
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: the candle, get the cutout, and then basically rip the

1167
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: decision for making it, even though we've asked for years

1168
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 1: for episodes. But I know we're gonna be here.

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00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 3: I just know it.

1170
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 1: I know it, and I'll apologize right now. But thanks

1171
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: for joining us here on YouTube. Thanks to all the

1172
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 1: podcast listeners. We love you all. Thanks for this port

1173
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,439
Speaker 1: already pouring in for our guy Tassy, and we will

1174
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: do our best, like I said, to keep everybody updated

1175
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: until next time. Clipper Bros.

1176
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 2: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up.

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00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 3: Love you guys awesome.

1178
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, and remember Tass always says write

1179
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 2: the story. When the ball is in the air, when

1180
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,080
Speaker 2: it comes to survivor, Meet the players. When the show

1181
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 2: is on the air.

1182
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Speaker 1: Embrace the day people love your Tassie.