1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up, 2 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: straight Fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fighter. Thursday, 3 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: July twenty nine. NBA Draft Night is here. Finally. I'm 4 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: sure you guys are getting tired of me talking about 5 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: the NBA Draft. It's weird. Everybody loves the NFL Draft, 6 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: pours over it for months. There's that combine. People go 7 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: crazy for the NFL Draft NBA Draft of juice just 8 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: isn't quite there. But I do want to thank everybody 9 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: for the kind words about the Matt Babcock interview. Uh 10 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: he was splendid. Jay billis earlier this week for rachela 11 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: last week. You could tell I love the NBA, but 12 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: I also love the NFL. We have an awesome NFL 13 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 1: topic today, Aaron Rodgers unfiltered airing of Grievances if you 14 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: will on Wednesdays. Just an incredible, unbelievable thirty three minutes 15 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: from Aaron Rodgers at the podium. It felt so senatorial 16 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,839 Speaker 1: of Aaron Rodgers, just like he basically announced his campaign 17 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: to run for whatever the hell he wants to in 18 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: Wisconsin and win. He won over everybody. It wasn't one 19 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 1: of the better press conferences I've seen from a quarterback 20 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: in recent years. I hope Russell Wilson's taking notes for 21 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: his Seattle situation that's coming to a head like it 22 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: was just masterful from Aaron Rodgers. We'll get to that. UM. 23 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: I don't know how much more NBA draft stuff will 24 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: do in this pod. Um. There were no trades on Wednesday. 25 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: I don't really know what uh what's to make of 26 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: anything at the top. Um, So I don't think there's 27 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: gonna be any changes. Uh, you know, my gut tells 28 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: me probably K goes first. I've had Jalen Green number 29 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: one on my my board. I think he has the 30 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: biggest upside. You guys know that. Um NBA Draft I 31 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: would be glued to it tonight. It's it's so exciting. Um, 32 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: I absolutely love it. But programming note, your boy will 33 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: be hosting Speak for Yourself today, UM uh very exciting 34 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: with LaVar Arrington and Rick Bucker. Uh today and tomorrow 35 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 1: actually Thursday and Friday. Uh fun And then next week, 36 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 1: oh yeah, undisputed all week and it's gonna be a 37 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: good one because the NFL camps are in full swing 38 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: and NBA free agency. So next week is gonna be 39 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: popping um here on the pod obviously and for me 40 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: over at FS one, so um catch me over there 41 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: as well. Now I before I get to Aaron Rodgers, um, 42 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: and this is a dicey topic. So on I think, Yeah, Tuesday, 43 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: I asked Rob g Rob, what are you guys doing 44 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: on the Odd Couple and he said, we're opening with 45 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: Simone Biles And I was like, what a weird topic 46 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: that is. I can't imagine the sports fans really care 47 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,119 Speaker 1: that Simone Biles quit in the middle of the Olympics. 48 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: Um like, like, what's the story she quit? Like, it's 49 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: not that interesting. That was my reaction, and I saw 50 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: some of it on social media, you know, the unwashed 51 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: masses going after Simone Bile making it a political statement. Basically, 52 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: if you're on the left, then you're a Black Lives 53 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: Matter fan, you're defending Simone Biles to the end right, 54 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: and if you're on the other side of the political spectrum, 55 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: you're bashing someone Biles endlessly. That's like, that's how it went. 56 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: That's how I read it. Now again, that's just from 57 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: my social media feed. I got like zero vibe that 58 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: anyone really cared about someone Biles. It became a political issue, 59 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: and it was thinly veiled, you know. It's it goes 60 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: back to one of these um one of these like 61 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: philosopher statements that I heard. If all your political beliefs 62 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: line up with one political party, you're not a clear thinker. 63 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: Like if that's what you are, hey, hey, let's make 64 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: this a political issue. Will all hammer Simone bows? Then 65 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: you're just You're just a sheep. You're just following the crowd, okay. 66 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: And then Wednesday I played pickup basketball. I've had a 67 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: regular pickup basketball game Wednesday, I don't know, for pretty 68 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: much six months outdoors, you know whatever, maybe eight months 69 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: at any rate. The guys show up and in between games, 70 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: one of the dudes, who is a doctor, says, oh, so, 71 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: j what's your take on you know, Simone Biles? And 72 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: I was caught off guard. I was like, oh, I 73 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: don't really thought that much about it. She quit in 74 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: the Olympics, Like what's a big deal. And then there 75 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: was some silence, and like then everybody started to chime 76 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: in and it was like, oh, there's something here, Like 77 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: people actually were passionate about Simone Biles, you know, and 78 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: like the pickup game has a bunch of dudes. Um, 79 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: I listen, I'm not trying to hike these guys up. 80 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: Some of them listening to the pods. Some of them 81 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: probably don't. Um. There's some high net worth individuals in 82 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: the game, a lot of banker finance guys. Um, some 83 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: sharp individuals. Obviously it's a you know, we got a 84 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: group age range went thirty fifty, I guess, and everybody 85 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: had a take on Simone Biles. And what was interesting 86 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: to me was, oh, well I believe this, but I'm 87 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: not gonna go out there publicly and say that. And 88 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: I was like, oh interesting, and you know, the consents. 89 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: This was someone Bobs quit period, Like she quit now 90 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: again there is nuance involved the mental health stuff. You know, 91 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: I read a bunch I spent a lot of time 92 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: after the game reading about someone Biles. She you know, 93 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: she was diagnosed with a d h D and um, 94 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: obviously she was involved in that awful uh sexual assault 95 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: case involving Larry Nasser and US Olympics. Um. So like 96 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: she's been through some stuff and you know, someone Boss 97 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: is like twenty four, and it's it's easy to say 98 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 1: she quit because that's what happened. But I think crushing 99 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: her for quitting is weird and like it feels very 100 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: aggreve to be going after a twenty year old gymnast 101 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: for quitting when she's basically the most accomplished gymnast in 102 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: the history of the sport. Yeah, that's real. You guys 103 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: can look that up. Like then it gets weird, like, well, 104 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: is she to goat? And it's like, okay, so I 105 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: didn't even realize this, but Simone Biles wears like, uh, 106 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: you know, Olympic outfit when she's doing the poll vole 107 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: or not the fault, the vault and the all those events, 108 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: she wears and has like a goat little insignia on 109 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: it of sorts, and you know, is she the greatest 110 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: of all time? Well, it's there's no doubt that, um, 111 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: she is the most decorated UM gymnast of all time. 112 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: Like that's an inarguable fact. Look at the numbers, more 113 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: than just the Olympics, the World Championships and all that. 114 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: But then is she the goat? And again, like again, 115 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: how many people are equipped to get into a real 116 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: serious discussion about who the gymnast goat is? I certainly 117 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: am not. I'm not you know, like, I could probably 118 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: name a handful of gymnasts, so you could say, well, J, 119 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: the same applies. You don't. You're not equipped to get 120 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: into a World War two discussion, but you can do 121 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: some reading and decipher who you know, all the important 122 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: factors and won World War everything. You could get into it. 123 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: And sure you can't. I mean, I'm sorry, I'm not 124 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: gonna dive deep and head first into a Simoon Biles discussion. 125 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: Where I found it got really super duper interesting, was Okay, 126 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: what kind of precedent is there for someone quitting in 127 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: like the middle of event, And everybody wants to make 128 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: this leap, they want to get out there idiotic jump 129 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: to conclusions Matt and say, oh, well if Lebron did this, 130 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: like that is asinine and reductive and really really stupid. 131 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: It's just dumb. And one of the guys at basketball said, well, 132 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, and I I was like, wait, hold up, Kevin 133 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: Duran never quit. Well if he did, like, I'm not, 134 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: I'm not getting into an hypothetical. And if this person 135 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: did that, so then you start thinking about, okay, well 136 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: who has quit And the one that comes to mind 137 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: is Roberto Duran against Sugar Ray Leonard the famous boxing match. 138 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: Now the nerd I am. Last night I dove deep 139 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: into a YouTube rabbit hole of Roberto Duran verse Sugar 140 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: Ray Leonard and like, I'm a kind of boxing fan. 141 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: I don't you know I But for whatever it's worth, Um, 142 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: Shane Moseley like works out of my gym. I haven't 143 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: seen him in a while, play pick up basketball with 144 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: him a couple of times. Super nice guy. Um. Weirdly, 145 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: I followed him on I G and I would be like, 146 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: oh he knows me, you know, have followed it. Never 147 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: followed back, so I hadn't followed him. Pretty nerdy. Anyways, 148 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: Roberto Durant verse Sugar Ray Leonard is an awesome story 149 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: and you guys know the saga. So they fight in 150 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: nineteen and epic about Roberto Duran beat Sugar Ray Leonard. 151 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: And one of the things that Roberto Duran was he 152 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: got in Sugar Ray Leonard's head before the fight. Leading 153 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 1: up to the fight, he started the mental warfare and 154 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: at the way in Roberto Duran says, after I'm done 155 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: screwing you in the ring, I'm gonna screw your wife, 156 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: and he pointed at Sugar Ray Leonard's wife who was 157 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: at the way in, and of course Sugary Leonard gets 158 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: super piste, but Roberto Durand was in his head and 159 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: then he wins the fight. Okay, Sugar Ray Leonard was 160 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: I rate after the loss. It was a decision and 161 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: demands a rematch, and they're doing it like five months later. Okay, 162 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: And what does Roberto duran do after beating Sugary Leonard. 163 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: He goes back and parties like a rock star in Panama. 164 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: You know, there's hundreds of thousands, literally hundreds of thousands 165 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: of people are partying with Roberto Durant for beating Sugary Leonard. 166 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: He's the champ, blah blah blah. But what does he 167 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: not doing prepare for the fight? The rematch five months 168 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: later and then he realized his holy shit, I'm way overweight. 169 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: He's gotta cut weight and blah blah blah. Well, this 170 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: is the Nomas fight. They get in the ring and 171 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: you know, Sugar Ray Leonards getting the better of him, 172 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: and Sugar Ray Leonards starts reversing the mental warfare and 173 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: clowning on Roberto Durant. At one point. You can see 174 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: this on YouTube. It's awesome. He winds up the right hand, 175 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,719 Speaker 1: you know, like he's gonna do this windmill punch or 176 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: whatever it's called, and then he sticks a jab and 177 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: the crowd erupts. And the next round is when Roberto 178 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: Durant in the middle of the round. I mean, there 179 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: was like, you know, thirty seconds left in the round, 180 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: he just like stops fighting and puts his hands up, 181 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 1: and then Sugary Land punches a couple of times and 182 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: the refs like steps in and he's like, wait, wait 183 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:09,439 Speaker 1: what and True says, let's start fighting in Roberto duran 184 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: that's when he famously goes no Moss, no Moss. He 185 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: quit in the middle of the fight. That to me 186 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: is the only true equivalent to the Simone Boles quitting. 187 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: That being said, obviously someone's beating your brains in in 188 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: the ring is slightly different from the mental warfare of 189 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: dealing with the world of America's weight on your shoulders 190 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: in the Olympics, and not to bounce around too much. 191 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: But I'll say this, somebody did note at pick up basketball, um, 192 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: Michael Phelps was not in these Olympics. He's like an 193 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: announcer for NBC in subcapacity. The most famous athlete for 194 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: the US at these Olympics is Simone Bibles and it's 195 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: not close because she dominated so much in Rio. In 196 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: you could argue, oh, Kevin Duran's famous, he's on a team. 197 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: He's one of you know whatever amount of guys on 198 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 1: the on the USA team. Simone Biles is an individual. Now. 199 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: She was eating on the gymnastics team in this event 200 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: when she quit. But even the boxing analogy is not great. Now, 201 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: I do want to add, I know you guys are 202 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: like Jason, why are you talking so much boxing? Just 203 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: hear me out here, Okay. Everybody in Panama hated Roberto Durant. 204 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: They bailed on him because he quit. Oh you worse, 205 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. They love him when he's a champ 206 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: and you love that adulation, and then when you quit, 207 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: they bail on His family bailed on him. He quit 208 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 1: boxing for a time and then I had to come back. 209 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. Mike Tyson leave it to Mike Tyson 210 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: to have the smartest comment on Roberto Duran's no Moss 211 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 1: against Sugar Ray Leonard. And this does apply, I believe 212 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: to Simone Boss. Mike Tyson said, I admired the courage 213 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: of Roberto Durant to quit. Sometimes the honorable thing to 214 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: do is to throw in the towel rather than to 215 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: continue on needlessly. That's some smart ship from Mike Tyson. 216 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: Like we think of Mike Tyson as a goofball and 217 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna eat your children, blah blah blah. You know, 218 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: like Tyson is a little crazy, he's out there, but 219 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: that is pretty smart, Simone Biles. It takes a lot 220 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: of courage to admit I don't have it. I'm sorry, 221 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: I'm bailing. It takes a lot. Now, the the counter 222 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: could be, why not just do it? You lose, you 223 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: finished ninth whatever, and hey, I didn't have it. I lost. 224 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 1: That's a tough one, like quit or just keep fighting, 225 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: plow through it, which is the essence of sports. There 226 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: is gonna be pressure, you're gonna have to you're gonna 227 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: be losing, You're gonna have to come back like this 228 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: is sports. Like it is a difficult conversation to have, 229 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,719 Speaker 1: like I I mean, I can The only thing I 230 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 1: can confidently say is is the fact here Simone Biles quit. 231 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: Now are you blaming her? Are you gonna bash her 232 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: for quitting and then come up with hypothetical as well, 233 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: if this happened, if Patrick Mahomes in the middle of 234 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl set, my offensive line is abandoning me, 235 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: like quit, Like that's that's just there's no chance of that. 236 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 1: That's not happening. You're an employee in the NFL and 237 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: the NBA, Major League Baseball, Okay, you are paid to play. 238 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: If you don't have it, they'll pull you. You can't. 239 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: I don't. I at least I don't. You're like in 240 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: violation of your contract if you just say yo, I can't. 241 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: I can't do about in the middle of a game. 242 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: I don't think you can do that. Now, we've heard 243 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: players like Kevin Love say, hey, I don't have it. 244 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: I'm not there mentally, Paul George and the bubble, I 245 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 1: get that. That that's another that's a totally another story. 246 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: I think where it becomes difficult with Biles as it 247 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: was in the middle of a competition. That's the tough part, 248 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, hell, guys, I told you in 249 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: a small scale. Nobody cares. I've told you about the 250 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: tennis tourny this weekend. I'm winning four one in the semifinals. 251 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: In the first set, I'm rolling, and all of a sudden, 252 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: I just the wheels come off. I start thinking about, 253 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be in the championship. I never made the 254 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: tennis team. I'm gonna win a title. All this is 255 00:13:57,840 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: gonna be for great. You know what am I gonna 256 00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: do to recuperate for tomorrow? Oh? Shoot, I'm gonna miss 257 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: my son's basketball game. Like and then I just lose 258 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,839 Speaker 1: lose focus, and wheels fell off and I lost. When 259 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 1: I was down five one in the second set and 260 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: I knew it was over. Could I have just said 261 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: I quit, I'm done? No, hell no, I can't. I mean, listen, 262 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: my wife was there, my kids were there, I had 263 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: probably three or four friends watching, Like, could I have 264 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: just quit? No? Hell no, I can't quit. You can't 265 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: throw in the towel. If you're good front running and 266 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: winning and cool with that, you gotta be cool with losing. 267 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: It happens. So I mean, again, I can't kill someone 268 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: bills for this. I just I can't crush her. A 269 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: lot of people want to. I guess if you want 270 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: to say, Jason, is she the goat? Define goat? What 271 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: are we? What are we doing here? Like? Michael Jordan's 272 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: technically quit wasn't in the middle of the season. Was 273 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: in the middle of the NBA Finals, but they won 274 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: three straight. He said, the mental wear and tear, the 275 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: playoff burn, Like I was worn down. I needed to 276 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: get out of basketball. Michael Jordan quit, but not in 277 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: the middle of a game like this. Mental stuff is real, 278 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: guys there, that's obvious. Sometimes it can be too much. Now, 279 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: if you let it affect you to the point you're 280 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: quitting in the middle of the game, that's a major, 281 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: major problem. But again, I don't I'm not here saying 282 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: Simone Biles cannot be on the gymnastics Mount Rushmore because 283 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: she quit in the Olympics. I mean again, what so 284 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: if we're reducing everybody to their lowest moment, Lebron can't 285 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: be the goat because of the elect two thousand eleven 286 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: finals against the Mavericks. That's the comparison I actually like 287 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: because and I've interviewed Tons, well, I'm not tons as 288 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: many people as I could who played in that series. 289 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: Hey man, what happened to Lebron? They were up, they 290 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: won Game one, they were I was playing great. I 291 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: think they were up to one of the series, Like 292 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: what happened to that was not the same Lebron James. 293 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: We've never seen that, and it's everybody surmises that it 294 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: was a mental thing. He had put together the heatles 295 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: the weight of basketball, and the world was I mean, 296 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: Basketball's global star was watching Lebron. He's gonna get his 297 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: first title. He's with the heat, and the moment became 298 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: really really big, and Lebron played as poorly as I've 299 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: ever seen him play. And I think you guys would 300 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: agree with that if you look at I don't know Lebron. 301 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: Let's just say he's played a hundred playoff games. He's 302 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: played more than that, obviously, but if he's played a hundred, 303 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: that NBA Finals, we're, without a doubt his worst two 304 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: or three games, and they all came in one series. 305 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: Like there was a mental aspect of that. I don't 306 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: know if lebrono copped to it. I don't know if 307 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: he ever if anybody's gonna ask him about or he'll 308 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: just not avoid it um, But without question, the mental 309 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: aspect is something. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports 310 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows 311 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: at Fox sports radio dot Com and within the I 312 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: Heart Radio app search f s R to listen live 313 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: when Roberto Durant said, no, Moss, I'm done, it's over. 314 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: I don't have it. That's quitting, and folks, I just 315 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I cannot get too upset with Simone Biles here. 316 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: I know that that's like a fence sitting take. And 317 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 1: the problem in going back a couple of years, You've 318 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,800 Speaker 1: gotta have a take. It's gotta be far and you 319 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: gotta be as extreme as possible one side or the other. 320 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: I just don't play those games, guys, I'm sorry, I can't. 321 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: I mean, if he how's this. Jalen Johnson was at Duke, Okay, 322 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 1: and he played I think he started eight games. Jalen 323 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: Johnson said, I'm quitting the Duke basketball team, Okay, absolutely 324 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: eviscerated by the college basketball media. Go look online. Everybody 325 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: bagged on him for quitting. My question, are people keeping 326 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: the same energy that they had for Jalen Johnson? He's 327 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: a quitter, are they? Okay? Okay? What then of Simone Biles? 328 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: Because Jalen Johnson quit on Duke. I guess he wasn't 329 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: gonna start a game or whatever happened, Um, but without 330 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: a doubt Jalen Johnson and Simone Biles, there's something there. 331 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 1: There is a similarity between those two that I mean again, 332 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: he had a scholarship of Duke Jalen Johnson. He knew 333 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: he was going to the NBA, so he's going to 334 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 1: get ready early. Like Simone Biles. This was her swan song. 335 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: By the way, she did not and I was reading 336 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: about this. She didn't have to be at the Olympics, right, 337 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: she chose to go for like one last hurrah when 338 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: she's got all the medals, she's got the endorsement money, 339 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: Like she could have easily just said I'm good. I 340 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: don't I don't need to be there. Um, she wrote 341 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: a New York Times bestseller. Like, I don't know, it's 342 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: a it's a really tough discussion. But I guess my 343 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: bottom line would be yes, Simone Biles quit. It's the 344 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: goat discussion is tough. Uh, I don't know. Like Mary 345 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: lou Retton was injured in what the Olympics. She plowed 346 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: through it and still got a gold medal and people 347 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: love her for trying and persevering. Like that's the essence 348 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: of sports grit. I mean, the whole book was written 349 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: about grit. It's a great book, by the way I 350 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: got it. Um. But now and and then it becomes politicized. 351 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: So you have these jackasses like the Texas Deputy Attorney 352 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,239 Speaker 1: General coming out and saying Simone Bows was selfish and 353 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: childish and a national embarrassment. Like that's where it gets reductive. 354 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 1: And that's when I check, please, no, thank you. I 355 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: don't need to waste my time on this crap. Like. So, 356 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: the only reason I brought this up, and I didn't 357 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: even realize that be this long of a ramble, was 358 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: because guys that play pick up basketball, we're kind of 359 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: hot on the story. And I didn't think that was 360 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: gonna be the case. And these are smart individuals, all 361 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: college graduates. A couple went to college scholarships. Uh, they're 362 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,959 Speaker 1: all making pretty good money now, um. And and it 363 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: was a nuanced discussion and I and I really appreciated that. Um. 364 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: And so shout out to my guys, um, who were 365 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: playing and made me talk about someone balls. Now, I'm 366 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: very curious as to the reaction this is gonna get. 367 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: So I'm sure I'll hear from you guys on Twitter 368 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 1: or on the d m s on I g um. 369 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: But let's quickly pivot to Aaron Rodgers and again I'll 370 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: be talking about this later today on Speak for Yourself. Um, 371 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 1: but I loved Unfiltered Aaron Rodgers thirty three minutes airing 372 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: of grievances. Just a breath of fresh air in a 373 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: sport where, more often than not, probably the time, athletes 374 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: get up there and do the do the coach speak 375 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: and speak in soundbites and offer you nothing. Okay, Aaron Rodgers, 376 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 1: I listen. I don't really know how the Packers bounce 377 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: back from this, because this is actually a quote from 378 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. I feel like, if you can't commit to 379 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: me past and I'm not a part of the recruiting 380 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 1: process in free agency, and if I'm not a part 381 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: of the future, then instead of letting me be a 382 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 1: lame duck quarterback, if you want to make a change 383 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: and move forward, then go ahead and do it. That 384 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 1: obviously did not happen, So basically the Packers were treating 385 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: him like garbage and then realized, oh, he's serious, we 386 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: need to try the money whip him in disdaining. But guys, 387 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers just watched Tom Brady did have we not 388 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: noticed that Tom Brady last year wasn't getting what he wanted, 389 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: did not feel appreciated by the Patriots. It was Bill 390 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: Belichick show. Bill Belichick rode him like a horse to 391 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: the end. And then Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft realized, oh, 392 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: maybe we misplayed this and didn't appreciate Brady like we 393 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: should have. So Tom Brady opens up his recruiting, He 394 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: goes to Tampa, he wins a Super Bowl. Not a 395 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: bad job by Tom Brady. He now set the president. 396 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: So what do we have a year later? Or Russell 397 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: Wilson piping up in Seattle. Hey, well, if you're gonna 398 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: trade me, here the places I go Aaron Rodgers, Yeah, 399 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: I kind of want to say in free agency, guys, 400 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: and then he went on to say Green Bay isn't 401 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: a huge vacation destination. People are coming here to play 402 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: with me, play with our team, knowing they can win 403 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: a championship here. That's a drop the mike. Aaron Rodgers, Yo, 404 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: I know you guys think that it's like the culture 405 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: and all this fun stuff. Now, no people are coming 406 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: here for me. Oh, Davante Adams, Yeah, he wants to 407 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: play with me. And the Packers misjudged that. I think 408 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: these NFL teams are a little slow to react what's 409 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: going on with the player empowerment era. It's taken over 410 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 1: the NBA. It runs the NBA. I don't know if 411 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: it'll run the NFL. But the idea that the Green 412 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: Bay Packers were not like having Aaron Rodgers in high 413 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: level discussions about free agency is to me insane. I 414 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: work at a TV network, at FS one. They know 415 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: that at a good buddy of Minke Colin Coward. He 416 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: is like the face of the network, and Skip Bayliss 417 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: is right there with him. You don't think they're bringing 418 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 1: those guys in high level discussions for daytime programming and 419 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: on the weekends the Sunday crew that runs Sunday NFL 420 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: on Fox. That's super powerful show, highest rated show. You 421 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 1: don't think they're bouncing ideas off those guys. Like I 422 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: know the executives ultimately have to say, but when you've 423 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 1: got a superstar like Aaron Rodgers, a Hall of Famer, 424 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: a top five player at the history of quarterbacks. Ever, 425 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: he's top five for sure, I don't care that they 426 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: only has won Super Bowl. You've got to bring him 427 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: in the discussions, they weren't even using him. And then 428 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 1: really the what do they call it? The piece de resistance? 429 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers said the Packers have disrespected veterans on their 430 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: way out of Green Bay, and then he had receipts 431 00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: Randall Cobb, Charles Woodson, Jordy Nelson, James Jones, Julius Uppers, 432 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: T J. Lang. He was name dropping how the Packers 433 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: kicked trusted veterans, loyal soldiers in the organization, just kicked 434 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: to the curb folks. This was senatorial in every way possible. 435 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers basically owns the Packers right now. That's how 436 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: it is. That's how I came away thinking, like, but 437 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: what's crazy is how does green Bay let it get here? 438 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: Egos in the front office, Like, I mean, I'm floored. 439 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,360 Speaker 1: I'm absolutely stunned that they could screw this up so 440 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: badly that Aaron Rodgers could basically bend them over on 441 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: the podium and just spank them. That's what this was. 442 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: This was me spanking my kids. And I probably shouldn't 443 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 1: say that because what are you not allowed to spank 444 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: your kids? Now You're like, get in trouble. I was 445 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 1: spank growing up. I know a bunch of friends were 446 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: spank growing up. We turned out. Okay, there's a difference 447 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: between like breaking out the belt and beating your kids 448 00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 1: senseless and spanking them. And Aaron Rodgers just spank publicly 449 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: the Packers for thirty three minutes. It was awesome. Aaron 450 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: Rodgers has all the power right now. He sounds like 451 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: he's gonna get Randall cob back like. It's just embarrassing 452 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: that the Packers let it get this far. And this 453 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: should serve notice to other teams around the NFL. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, 454 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: when you've got that star quarterback, maybe we want to listen. 455 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: And I don't want to say capitulate, that's a bit strong, 456 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: but maybe we want to keep him in the fold, 457 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: keep him happy. He's our franchise. I always go to 458 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: this Dan Marino. Okay, the Dolphins had a really good 459 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: for about fifteen years. Dan Marino, franchise quarterback, Hall of Famer, 460 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 1: all time grade. Since he's gone, what have they done? 461 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 1: They've been searching a waste land for twenty years looking 462 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 1: for a quarterback, looking for his replacement. I don't want 463 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: to go through all the guys I would bring up 464 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: the Browns, but they they've never had anybody like Dan 465 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 1: Mirino since Bernie co Star. They've just gone through a 466 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: million quarterbacks. Maybe Baker's the guy. I don't know, but 467 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: like the Packers don't know what it feels like to 468 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: be searching for a franchise quarterback. They had Brett Farve. 469 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 1: I think from like mid nineties to they've been set 470 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: at the quarterback position save for like a couple of 471 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: down years. Twenty five years. You get a little spoiled. 472 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: I think the Packers organization just a little little bit 473 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: spoiled on Aaron Rodgers. It's time to be like Aaron, Hey, 474 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: we are sorry. Can we roll out the red carpet. 475 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: We're not gonna call you an uber anymore. We're gonna 476 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 1: call you the black car. You know. We're gonna get 477 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: the high end stuff, like Aaron, What do you need, 478 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers? We are here for you. Fox Sports Radio 479 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch 480 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot com 481 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: and within the I Heart Radio app search f s 482 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 1: R to listen live. I want to close out this. UM. 483 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 1: I know there's been a little bit of a rant here, 484 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: but this story popped up. I think it's you know, 485 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: I know the NBA rafts this tonight, and that's big. 486 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: But this story is super fascinating. Okay, top high school 487 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: quarterback may skip senior year start getting name, image, likeness money. 488 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: Now I love this story. So there's this quarterback named 489 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: Quinn Yours E W E. R. S. He is a 490 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 1: high school superstar at the Southlake Carol Factory in Dallas. 491 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: I think that I'm pretty sure self like Carol had 492 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: Matt Staffer in a bunch of other superstars, or if 493 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: if not, they had a bunch, they trust me. South 494 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: Like Carol is a beast. Okay, this guy has decided, 495 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: wait a second, I can't make name, image and likeness 496 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: money in the state of Texas because of rules as 497 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: a high school athlete. But if I forego my senior 498 00:27:55,440 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: year and I enrolled early at Ohio State, I can 499 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: start getting name, image and likeness money. Now. He went 500 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: and told Pete Famil of Yahoo Sports, I'm leaning toward 501 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 1: leaving and going up to Ohio just I don't have 502 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: to deal with the Texas state regulation stuff and I 503 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: can get in the system there and learn and oh yeah, 504 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 1: make some money now, I know what you're thinking, How 505 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: much money can he possibly make? There was a seven 506 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: figure thing floated that people laughed at because, I mean, 507 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: truth be told. I like high school football and recruiting 508 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. I've never heard of Quinney Ubers. Sorry, 509 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: I'm just maybe I'm a little behind. Um. But what's 510 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: interesting is think about this. If you want to get 511 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: in on the ground floor with a potential superstar quarterback, 512 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: you could probably get in for cheaper now than when 513 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: he becomes the starter as a freshman or whenever readtro 514 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: freshman whatever in a year or two, and oh his 515 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: price has suddenly going up. So you get it now, 516 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: you get in early. There's money to be made on 517 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: this kid. Now the US opens up a whole new 518 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: can of worms as whether or not name, image, and 519 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: likeness needs to be changed in Texas. Um, apparently this 520 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: kid ours only has to complete one more class to 521 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: fulfill his high school graduation requirements. That's pretty impressive for 522 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: a high school junior. Um. You know he's gonna start college. 523 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: I guess two. But you know that name image like this, 524 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: money's tempting. Now now, I'm not gonna go to too 525 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: in depth on quinn Ers listens. South Lake Carol High 526 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: School is a in a really nice area. This kid's 527 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: family probably is doing decent. Again, I should probably not 528 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: make that jump to conclusion. But does he need the money? 529 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: Probably not. But if you're high school senior, what do 530 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: you want to do? Hanger out for your high school 531 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: senior year or go out start making money when you 532 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 1: are gonna probably be uh the starting quarterback at Ohio State. 533 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: And if you're that good to get to a high state, 534 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: chances are that your the NFL's on your radar. Um. 535 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: This is just a fascinating discussion. I love all of it. 536 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: I want these guys to get paid. They deserve it. Um. Yeah, 537 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by this story. So this has been a 538 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: long pod. We did way more Simone Bibbles than I 539 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: thought I would. We did Aaron Rodgers masterful performance, and 540 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: we did a little Quinn Ours And if you've never 541 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: heard of that guy, you've now heard of him. All right, guys, 542 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: we'll talk to you tomorrow.