1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to Aaron Benky's Cabinet of Curiosities, a production of 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Grim and Mild. Our world is 3 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: full of the unexplainable, and if history is an open book, 4 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: all of these amazing tales are right there on display, 5 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: just waiting for us to explore. Welcome to the Cabinet 6 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: of Curiosities. Many people go their entire lives on a 7 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: single track. They go to school, find a comfortable career, 8 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: and stay in that career until it's time to retire. 9 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: But every once in a while, someone gets tired of 10 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: their daily grind. They yearn for something else, something more 11 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: fulfilling than what they were trained to do, like Robert Norman. 12 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: Robert was born in Daytona Beach, Florida. In His father 13 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: was a opener while his mother worked as a waitress. 14 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: Robert loved animals, and when faced with an injured squirrel 15 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: or a snake, he wouldn't hesitate to take them in 16 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: and nurse them back to health. He once kept a 17 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: baby alligator in his bathtub until it was healthy enough 18 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: to release back into the wild. Robert dropped out of 19 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: school once he reached the ninth grade and went to 20 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: work with his father as a carpenter. A mishap with 21 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: one of his tools, though, resulted in the partial loss 22 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: of his left index finger, but the injury didn't keep 23 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: him from joining the Air Force when he was eighteen. 24 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: Robert served as a medical records technician and was even 25 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: stationed at Ailson Air Force Base in Alaska. His time 26 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: there seemed to transform him to living in Florida. He 27 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: had never seen mountains or snow before, and the majesty 28 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: of the Alaskan landscape stayed with him for the rest 29 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: of his life, but he eventually realized the military just 30 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: wasn't for him for one. Aside from his duties as 31 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: a records technician, Robert also served as a basic training instructor, 32 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: the guy whose job it was to yell at new 33 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: recruits about making their beds or cleaning the latrines. He 34 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: hated it, and he swore if he ever left the 35 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: military he would never raise his voice toward another person again. 36 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: But instead of dwelling on the negative, Robert channeled his 37 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: energy into something more creative. When he found out that 38 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: the Anchorage USO Club was holding art classes, he decided 39 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: to attend one. However, despite his newfound love of painting. 40 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: He took issue with the way his instructors taught him. 41 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 1: They were more interested in abstract art rather than showing 42 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: students how to paint what they saw around them. The 43 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: way he put it, they tell you what makes a tree, 44 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: but they wouldn't tell you how to paint a tree. 45 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: Robert eventually got a job as a bartender, but he 46 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: continued to pursue his art. While bartending, he came across 47 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 1: a television program hosted by a German painter named Bill Alexander. 48 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: Now Alexander worked in oil, using an old technique known 49 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: as wet on wet, in which he would apply wet 50 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: paint on top of wet paint instead of letting the 51 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: different layers dry first. Unlike the other methods that took 52 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: hours to complete, this technique allowed him to finish a 53 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: paint teen in just half an hour. Robert adopted Alexander's 54 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 1: style for himself and began painting on his lunch breaks. 55 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: Some of his earliest landscapes were painting on old gold 56 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: mining pans, which he was able to complete in a 57 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: matter of minutes. He then sold them for twenty five 58 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: dollars a piece, before moving on to canvases. Robert eventually 59 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: sold so many paintings that he out earned his Air 60 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: Force salary. After twenty years in the service, he retired 61 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty one with the rank of Master sergeant. 62 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: He left Alaska for the warm sands of his home 63 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: state of Florida, where he connected with his TV teacher 64 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: Bill Alexander. Alexander hired him to work with his art 65 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: supply company as an instructor and traveling salesman, and sometime 66 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: during his travels, Robert met a woman naming net Kowalski 67 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: who also attended one of his classes and gave him 68 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: some advice. She believed that he could do much better 69 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: working on his own rather than for someone else, so Annette, 70 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: along with Robert and his wife, put their money together 71 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: to build a new company. It almost didn't re vibe, 72 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: but Robert managed to turn things around with a television 73 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: show of his own, which launched on PBS. Through it, 74 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: Robert breathed life into thousands of blank canvasses over eleven years, 75 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: from happy little trees to happy little mountains. Robert Norman Ross, 76 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,039 Speaker 1: simply Bob Ross the viewers of the Joy of Painting, 77 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: was the quiet artist with the perfect perm and he 78 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: was true to his word too. After leaving the Air Force, 79 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: he almost never raised his voice against another person. But 80 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: the military wasn't all that bad after all. It helped 81 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: him find his true passion. I guess you could call 82 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: that a happy accident. Necessity is the mother of invention. 83 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 1: When we want to see change in our own lives, 84 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: we tend to make it happen for ourselves rather than 85 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: wait for someone else to come along and do it 86 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: for us. And even if someone beats us to it, 87 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean we can't try and do it better 88 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 1: than them. Those who come first often become the rungs 89 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: on the ladder for the people climbing up. James Moray 90 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: was not the first in his field, nor would he 91 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: be the last, but in his short time on Earth, 92 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: he changed the game for everyone by doing things his way. 93 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,239 Speaker 1: James was born in Greenville, Mississippi, in nineteen thirty six. 94 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: His mother and father raised him in Mississippi until the 95 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: late forties when they moved north to Maryland. James had 96 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: a simple childhood, but it turned upside down once the 97 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: family bought their first television set. It was a life 98 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: changing moment for young James. As he came face to 99 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: face with the people in programs that would influence him 100 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: for the rest of his life. He gravitated toward performers 101 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: who entertained with their hands and used funny voices to 102 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: create different characters, in other words, ventriloquists, people like Edgar 103 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: Bergen and his dummy Charlie McCarthy. James began following in 104 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: their footsteps from a young age, performing shows for his 105 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: clubs out Troop with homemade puppets. As he got older, 106 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: he branched out into other mediums. His teenage years, for example, 107 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: were spent in his school's theater department building sets. He 108 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: even drew a comic strip for his high school yearbook. 109 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: And it was during his senior year when James was 110 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: given a great opportunity. His local television station had come 111 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: up with an idea for a new show. It would 112 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,799 Speaker 1: be produced by kids four kids, with young people acting 113 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: as on air talent and as the puppeteers behind the scenes. 114 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: He didn't quite know what he was doing just yet, 115 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: but he got a job building and creating puppets for 116 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: the show. Sadly, it only lasted for two episodes before 117 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: getting pulled, but James had learned a lot while working 118 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: on it. He'd also made important industry connections that would 119 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: come in handy later in life. He eventually graduated high 120 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: school and moved on to college, attending the University of Maryland, 121 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: where he studied graphic arts, textiles, and home economics. However, 122 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: while many college students take their time in finding out 123 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: what they wanted to do for the rest of their lives, 124 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: James fell into his future pretty quickly. It all started 125 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: with a single class. He enrolled in a puppetry class 126 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: where he met a senior named Jane Nevill, a young 127 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: woman who would eventually become his wife. The two became 128 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: fast friends and got to work on a project for 129 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: local television affiliate w r C TV. James came up 130 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: with lots of ideas for the show, ideas that went 131 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: on to define how televised puppet shows would be performed 132 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: for generations to come. Unlike the Wooden Charlie McCarthy dummies 133 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: of his use, he made his puppets out of foam. 134 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: He also oriented the camera so that the puppets and 135 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: the sets were the only things in the frame. This way, 136 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: it looked like the characters were moving on their own 137 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: while the puppeteers were crouched down out of the shot 138 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: to preserve the illusion. He called his show Sam and Friends, 139 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: a character's program about a human puppet named Sam and 140 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: his many companions like Harry the Hipster, Professor Madcliffe, and 141 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: a curious green lizard. This lizard was instructed from an 142 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: old coat that had belonged to James's mother. He'd cut 143 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,679 Speaker 1: it up and stitched it back together, giving this creature 144 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: a kind of tube shaped body with a pointed, expressive mouth. 145 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: His eyes were made from two halves of a ping 146 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: pong ball attached on top. He didn't know it at 147 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: the time, but James's character was going to leap off 148 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: the screen and into the hearts of children and adults 149 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: around the world. You see. He originally started out as 150 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: a generic lizard, but over time the creature evolved, as 151 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: most creatures do. Subsequent iterations added a pointy color around 152 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 1: his neck, and the pale green of the coat was 153 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: replaced with the fabric of a more verdant hue. He 154 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: also changed species. The character was now clearly labeled as 155 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: being a frog. So what two things did James Murray 156 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: Henson keep from his original design. First there were the 157 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: friendly white ping pong ball eyes and second the characters 158 00:08:53,800 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: soon to be iconic name Kermit the Frog. I hope 159 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: you've enjoyed today's guided tour of the Cabinet of Curiosities. 160 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: Subscribe for free on Apple Podcasts, or learn more about 161 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: the show by visiting Curiosities podcast dot com. The show 162 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: was created by me Aaron Mankey in partnership with how 163 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: Stuff Works. I make another award winning show called Lore, 164 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: which is a podcast, book series, and television show, and 165 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: you can learn all about it over at the World 166 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: of Lore dot com. And until next time, stay curious. Yeah,