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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys liked lamb who didn't know your host, Kyle Yeomans.

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Speaker 1: It is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show here

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Speaker 1: It's the final episode of the twenty twenty one at

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Speaker 1: draft season, and we are glad you're with us here

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Speaker 1: and around the world. We've got Bucky Brooks, We've got

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Speaker 1: Brian brought us in the great Kevin kat Turner und

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Speaker 1: Kyle Yeoman's with you for one final time here on

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Speaker 1: the Draft Show. And Brian, we got to talk with

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Speaker 1: you onto on Tuesday. We did all the sappy goodbyes

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Speaker 1: and everything, and then we turn around and Jeff's not

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Speaker 1: able to make it, Dane's not able to make it,

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Speaker 1: and you're able to come again. I'm excited to get

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Speaker 1: another hour with you, but let's start with Bucky Brooks,

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Speaker 1: because somebody's pretty happy the Cowboys got a linebacker. And

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Speaker 1: he hasn't had a chance to talk about it just yet,

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Speaker 1: as I see the smile down in that bottom right

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Speaker 1: hand corner. Bucky, what were your overall thoughts of the

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Speaker 1: NFL draft? Well, I think I think in the Cowboys case,

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Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys got the best defending on the board.

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Speaker 1: Whenever we get Michael Parsons. I know there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of conversation about j. C. Horn and passer ten, and

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Speaker 1: you know, we kind of mocked those guys there for

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Speaker 1: the longest time. But I think when you look at

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Speaker 1: the value over the long call, Michael Parsons is going

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Speaker 1: to be a more impactful player than the corners would

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Speaker 1: have been, particularly in this defense. And when you hear

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Speaker 1: Dan Quinn talk about three four looking defense that's a

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Speaker 1: hybrid and pick kind of moving the pieces around the chessboard.

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Speaker 1: Michael Parsons gives him the opportunity to do a bunch

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Speaker 1: of different things. And so I'm excited about it, but

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Speaker 1: I'm more excited about the fact that they doubled down

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Speaker 1: and got your brill Cox to come back. For so

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Speaker 1: long we talked about the lack of speed and athleticism

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Speaker 1: much faster and explosive and more athletic defense, and I

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Speaker 1: think when you put those elements on the field, that's

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Speaker 1: when the turno was beginning to happen. Katsie, what do

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Speaker 1: you do you think about it? No, I couldn't agree

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Speaker 1: more with Bucky and the fact that they were able

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Speaker 1: of it. It makes it a little bit more sweeter.

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Speaker 1: And the bottom line is I think the world's a

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Speaker 1: little crazy when it comes to communication sometimes. And I

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Speaker 1: know that being a fan also means being a fanatic,

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Speaker 1: and the definition of that is a little sometimes too.

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Speaker 1: Here's the bottom line, the bottom line, and we talked

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Speaker 1: about this for months. There were about thirteen really really

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Speaker 1: good players worthy going in the top thirteen. And yes,

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Speaker 1: that is a shot at Matt Jones, I'll say it.

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Speaker 1: But there were thirteen guys who were worthy of going

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Speaker 1: just because one of us might have said I would

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Speaker 1: have taken Slater over Parsons. It might have been me,

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Speaker 1: do that doesn't matter. They were going to get And

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Speaker 1: we talked about this with Bucky a few weeks ago

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Speaker 1: about being stingy with your first round grades, making sure

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Speaker 1: we're not just allowing people to walk in and watch

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Speaker 1: clear first round grade. And when you're picking up there,

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Speaker 1: you get a good player. There will be multiple times

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Speaker 1: this year where we are talking about a Cowboy game

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Speaker 1: when it's over and we go, man, I don't know

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Speaker 1: what that game would have been like if we didn't

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Speaker 1: have Michael Parsons. He will be your best defensive player

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Speaker 1: multiple times this season. And I think that's what kind

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Speaker 1: his defense being, it does make a lot of sense.

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Speaker 1: I'll see another encouraging thing just to humble Bragg. Yesterday

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Speaker 1: what dan quinn was looking for in these players, and

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Speaker 1: I think that was to me. Now I have a

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Speaker 1: draft that they had. Brian, I'm glad you brought that up.

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Speaker 1: Go for it, Bucky. Now I think I may be

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Speaker 1: going where you're going provac Cow, because I think one

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Speaker 1: And the fact that Will McClay and Dan quinn were

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Speaker 1: like this structure with this front office is a lot

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Speaker 1: And I could be wrong, but that's what it seems

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Speaker 1: like from the outside. Brian, yeah, what the situation is,

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Speaker 1: and Bucky has experienced this firsthand, and I would give

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Speaker 1: anything in the world for Kat to be a part

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Speaker 1: of reminds me like the Dynamic and Saturday Dot Live.

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Speaker 1: The writers are like, yeah, I don't want to write

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Speaker 1: type of thing maybe, But you know when I when

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Speaker 1: especially in a year where things are a little bit differently,

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Speaker 1: Like there wasn't really a point in the draft. Well,

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Speaker 1: them were, like there were years where we would go

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Speaker 1: that as a Rod Marinelli pick, he got the pick,

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Speaker 1: and you kind of know that because he's sitting in

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Speaker 1: staff is Joe Witt Junior. Joe Junior has to do

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Speaker 1: two things for this defense to click. He has to

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Speaker 1: get the young guys on the same page when it

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Speaker 1: comes to communication and technique. And then the second thing

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Speaker 1: is he has to fix the things that dan Quinn

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Speaker 1: may not know when it comes to coverage adjustments. The

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Speaker 1: secondary coach with dan Quinn is the most important part

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Speaker 1: because dan Quinn is coming as a defensive coordinator. In general,

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Speaker 1: the hardest thing to do is to go from being

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Speaker 1: a D line coach to being a coordinator, because you're

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Speaker 1: so close to being in the trenches that you may

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Speaker 1: not have that full field perspective to fix it. And

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Speaker 1: so the secondary coach becomes critically important. To a guy

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Speaker 1: like that, It's no different than Rod mary Nelly having

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Speaker 1: to have like Chris Richard, to anybody else that comes

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Speaker 1: from being right at the line of scrimmage. It is

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Speaker 1: hard for those guys to understand the full field view

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Speaker 1: of how the defense should come together. Yeah, but let's

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Speaker 1: think about this. Let's think about what this defense has

448
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Speaker 1: gone through though the last several years. How many different

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Speaker 1: coordinators they've had, Rod Marnelli, Chris Richard, Mike Nolan. Now

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Speaker 1: they have a new guy. If you're sitting there in

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Speaker 1: that defensive room, you're going, when are they going to

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Speaker 1: get this right? When is somebody going to come in here?

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Speaker 1: You know? And yeah, let's let's be honest. Jane Slater's

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Speaker 1: report on the NFL Network was talking about the players

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Speaker 1: and not getting it and not understanding and you know,

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Speaker 1: I've said this all along. Pandemic plan as far as

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Speaker 1: handling the health of the team a plus, teaching the

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Speaker 1: team during pandemic Plan f so f SO. To me,

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Speaker 1: that's the problem. As your player, You're like, well, what

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Speaker 1: what other guy they're gonna bring in here? What other

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Speaker 1: guy were? What other thing we're you know, Oh Jim

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Speaker 1: Tom Sulu, Oh he's gone. Now, oh, this guy's gone.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you're defensive player, you're like, what are

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Speaker 1: you buying into? You're You're like, heck, they're throwing, they're

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Speaker 1: grabbing at straws and they're trying to you know, you're thinking,

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Speaker 1: how am I going to play? Every time? But to me,

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Speaker 1: this one does feel right. This is the one that

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Speaker 1: does feel right, and hopefully for Dallas Cowboys and the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys fans it is because Kat said earlier, historically

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Speaker 1: this was an awful defense, and I think alive it

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Speaker 1: had to do with the way they got the team

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Speaker 1: ready to play. Yes, yes, yes, yes, well said all

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Speaker 1: of that matters. And I was in the pandemic like

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Speaker 1: and Mike Nolan as a friend, but I would say

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Speaker 1: he excused to the level of complexity. And I think

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Speaker 1: the first thing that a teacher has to know is yes,

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Speaker 1: to know the students, And I would say that the

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Speaker 1: defense that they were attempting to put in went over

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Speaker 1: the heads of the students that were in the chairs.

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Speaker 1: So sometimes it's better to be a team that plays

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Speaker 1: like little toy soldiers on the field, where everyone knows

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Speaker 1: where to line up so they can just play fast

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Speaker 1: and just go to the ball. And so I think

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Speaker 1: we'll see more of that less disguise. Hey, let's just

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Speaker 1: line up and make sure we knew exactly what to do,

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Speaker 1: then just go play hard and knock the ball out.

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Speaker 1: Well said from all three guys throughout the segment. I mean,

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Speaker 1: explaining this defense is probably not going to be easy

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Speaker 1: try and do that to a lot of these professional

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Speaker 1: the right guy moving forward. When we come back here

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Speaker 1: on the Draft Show, time for some Twitter on the

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Speaker 1: thanks to a Twitter question. We're gonna talk about that

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Speaker 1: the season. Gentlemen, did you know that going? Or if

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Speaker 1: would be episode number forty seven of the Draft Show.

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Speaker 1: Since when we started this thing back in December, I

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Speaker 1: mean back and forth. Forty seven draft shows. Pretty crazy

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Speaker 1: to think about, but forty seven draft shows. We've also

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Speaker 1: had it close to about forty twitters on the twenty

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Speaker 1: time for the final, Twitter on the twenty Twitter on

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Speaker 1: the twenty ardis Chris Beam in the back doing fantastic work.

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Speaker 1: All right, Bucky, get your dukes up ready to fight.

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Speaker 1: Here for a little bit, real quick, go for it,

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Speaker 1: Brian coll It real quick, yeah, real quick. It's kind

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Speaker 1: of Bucky's kind of like we played like the Brooklyn Nets,

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Speaker 1: you know, like all of the really the team's kind

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Speaker 1: of been together, but Bucky's been like Kevin Durant, you know,

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Speaker 1: been in, in in, out of the lineup, and you really

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Speaker 1: can't give him credit for all forty sevens. He's Kevin Durant.

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Speaker 1: He's a big time player for the road management the

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Speaker 1: rest of its doing our job. Bucky's come in and

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Speaker 1: out we find out, you know, yeah, yeah fresh for

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Speaker 1: the final? You want me fresh for the final? Brought

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Speaker 1: us as Dirk. He's the one that's been ready and

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Speaker 1: available no matter what. Katie's I just I just I

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Speaker 1: just throw off, I just throw off the sweat and

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Speaker 1: we go play Bucky's like Kevin Durant. We have him

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Speaker 1: some days, I have him. Hide this now. I made

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Speaker 1: this a lot of a lot of work, a lot

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Speaker 1: of pet work, a lot of a lot of extra

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Speaker 1: work to get me. Oh man, I love it. All Right, Bucky,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna throw this one right at you,

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Speaker 1: mister Snappy Comeback followed up one of my tweets, and

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Speaker 1: he said at Bucky Brooks, tagging you specifically, he said,

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Speaker 1: three months ago, you absolutely trashed Parsons, basically said I

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Speaker 1: don't want to complete that sentence, but now you're very

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Speaker 1: happy about the pick. I want you to clear the

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Speaker 1: air on this because I don't think you never just

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Speaker 1: smashed Parsons as a player. It was more of just

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Speaker 1: you had more concerns for him specifically than you did

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Speaker 1: maybe some of the other players that could have been available. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I think it's important for what what's his what's

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Speaker 1: his handle, Nappy comeback? It's his name. Yeah. See, that's

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Speaker 1: that's where that's where we need to start. By the way,

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Speaker 1: feel free if you want to rip, if you want

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Speaker 1: to if you want to rip my ass about something,

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Speaker 1: give me your name. That way, you and I can

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Speaker 1: have a real conversation. You know, if you want to

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Speaker 1: be that guy or gal and you want to come

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Speaker 1: at me, spell my name right and number two give

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Speaker 1: me your name so I can have a good dialogue

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Speaker 1: with you. Mister snappy, come back. Oh look so mister snappy, comeback,

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Speaker 1: so guy or whatever. Whatever. I think it's important to

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Speaker 1: be able to separate the person from the player. I

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Speaker 1: never tries to player. I've always loved the player. I

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Speaker 1: think the players was the best defender and in the draft.

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Speaker 1: Like his ability to get from A to B in

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Speaker 1: a hurry to create disruption as a blitzer. His unique

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Speaker 1: skill set in terms of his combination of athletics and

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Speaker 1: speed is close to power. All that I loved, rated

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Speaker 1: all the charts, off the charts, blue chip player. My issue,

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Speaker 1: my main concern had to deal with the character of

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Speaker 1: the football character, meaning are you going to get someone

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Speaker 1: that's mature enough to handle the responsibilities of being the

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Speaker 1: leader of America's team. There is a big stage that

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Speaker 1: comes with being the guy that is not only the topic,

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Speaker 1: but the guy that's expected to be the leader of

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Speaker 1: this defense with all eyes on it and playing in

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Speaker 1: this city with all of the glitz, and glam. It

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Speaker 1: takes a level of maturity that you have to have.

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Speaker 1: When I crushed Mica, I worried about the ego and

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Speaker 1: the maturity in terms of being able to handle the responsibilities.

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Speaker 1: The other stuff that has come out about the character,

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Speaker 1: that stuff is that stuff. So my concern was Kenny

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Speaker 1: handled the responsibilities of being on a big stage with

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Speaker 1: all of the responsibilities and the eyeballs on him that

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Speaker 1: still remains to be seen. On the field, There's no

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Speaker 1: doubt that he could be one of the best players

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Speaker 1: to put the Star on, but we have to see

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Speaker 1: Kenny handled those responsibilities. And when you look at this

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Speaker 1: defense that has had some issues when it comes to

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Speaker 1: players playing hard and doing all the other stuff or whatever.

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Speaker 1: You just got to make sure that you're bringing the

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Speaker 1: right guy into the locker room and he falls in

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Speaker 1: line with the culture that you're trying to establish. We'll

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Speaker 1: see love the player, Let's see if the players football

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Speaker 1: character is up to the standard. And I think one

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Speaker 1: thing when we're talking about all of these players, you're

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Speaker 1: trying to find out as much information as you can

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Speaker 1: and things like that. So if something comes up, you

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Speaker 1: know with Michael Parsons that came up inevitably, and like

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Speaker 1: it would have came up with Josh Ball if we

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Speaker 1: knew the Cowboys were gonna draft Josh Ball. We just

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Speaker 1: didn't talk about Josh Ball a lot on the draft show.

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Speaker 1: You know, way different. Let's separate those things, right, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I think like there's there's questions about Kelvin Joseph

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Speaker 1: two that could be that could be discussed, and it's

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Speaker 1: more about, like you know, the scouts have to ask

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Speaker 1: these questions. How much as they love football, I'm much

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Speaker 1: they want to be there. Asked the question about Jaylen Phillips.

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Speaker 1: Everyone thinks Jaylen Phillips is a really good kid. You're

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Speaker 1: asking that question about his concussions. They're asking questions about

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Speaker 1: his music passion. They're still from asking those questions, There's

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Speaker 1: no doubt about it. They maybe asking the same thing

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Speaker 1: about Kelvin Joseph. Why didn't work out at LSU? What happened?

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Speaker 1: Like there's some things you just have to talk about.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about picking players. I think it's important, like

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Speaker 1: we talk about these players, they also have their whole

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Speaker 1: lives in front of them too, And it's like if

642
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: something happened, you know, you kind of have to look

643
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,719
Speaker 1: at it, and I don't like, you know, power ranking

644
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: like things that might have happened, or sometimes there are

645
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 1: alleged things that happen. A lot of times we don't

646
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: know the full details on them. I guarantee of the

647
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: team knows more about it than we do a lot

648
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: of the times, you know, Like, I think it's very important,

649
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: like to use a bunch of context when we're having

650
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: these conversations rather than rush out to something like Bucky

651
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: killed a guy like or not. I don't think Bucky

652
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: killed Bucky brought up a concerned teams might have about

653
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: a player, the same way teams might have concerns about

654
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: Rashawn Slater's arm length. I mean, it's all it's all

655
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: about putting the puzzle together and trying to get a

656
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: better look at the guy you're gonna draft. I think

657
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: that was like nuances gone in this day and age, mans,

658
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,719
Speaker 1: nuances gone in this day and age. It's a lot

659
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: of like yes, no, right, wrong right left no no no, no, no,

660
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: no no no, let's all kind of be ir rational

661
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: with how we deal with stuff. I love it, and

662
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: I think David Hellman was the one that said it

663
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: previously on one of the shows. But just because you

664
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: like another player doesn't mean you hate another player. I mean,

665
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: you can like multiple players, and I think we're seeing

666
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 1: that a lot with this draft, because, I mean, truth

667
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: be told, a lot of the guys that were picked

668
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: were not necessarily on our radar, at least until we

669
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: went into draft weekend. We started hearing some murmurs, but

670
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: it was really a draft that kind of caught us

671
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: by surprise in some aspects. Doesn't mean we hate the

672
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: players that were taken. We might be a little disappointed

673
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 1: in that regard, but at the same time, it doesn't

674
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: mean that they're bad players and that it was a

675
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: bad draft overall. Okay, Stephen Thomas says, how do you

676
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: compare the Cowboys draft with the other drafts in the

677
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 1: NFC East? Also, how would it help that the Cowboys

678
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 1: get into the playoffs passed the divisional round if these

679
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: players pan out and maybe if they are better than

680
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: the rest of the NFC East. Brian, do you have

681
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: any thoughts on how the division stuck out in terms

682
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: of the draft? Stephen, I thank you for your question.

683
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: I really do great question and I appreciate you using

684
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: your name to me. I think the Philadelphia Eagles had

685
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 1: the best draft as far as how and I have

686
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: only evaluated one hundred and ninety players. Those are the

687
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: guys I looked at. I ranked him from one to

688
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: one ninety how I would take him. And when I

689
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: look overall at what the Philadelphia Eagles did, I was

690
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: super impressed by the Hall that they were able to have.

691
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 1: You know, we talk about the Cowboys trading back with him,

692
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: giving him Smith. Stephen Jones said it. You know they

693
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: were either the Giants were going to get Devanta Smith

694
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 1: or the Philadelphia Eagles were. You know, earlier we'd heard, Hey,

695
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: Philadelphia was trying to go get Waddle. They'll say no,

696
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: we were trying to get some but no, I'd heard

697
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: from reliable sources they were going for Waddle. They couldn't

698
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: get him. They settled on Smith. Landon Dickinson is a

699
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,959
Speaker 1: really good player. We'll see how the medical stuff turns out.

700
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: I really did like Milton Williams a lot. I don't know,

701
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: I remember, Kate, I don't know if you were on

702
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: board with Milton Williams from Louisiana Tech. I know I was.

703
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: Is that guy as an active tackle Zach McPherson from

704
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 1: Texas Tech. He was transferred from Penn State. I really

705
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: liked the player, Yeah, Kenneth Gainwell, the I mean the

706
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: running back from Memphis. These Memphis running backs, you put

707
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: them in the league, what do they do? They run

708
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: hard and they catch the ball. They're kind of those

709
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: complete backs. So to get a guy like that at

710
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 1: one fifty I thought was just super value right there.

711
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: You know, even go down Marlin Tulpa, you know the

712
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 1: the I really liked him. The USC defensive tackle there.

713
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 1: I mean again, that's a guy at one eighty nine

714
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: that you're looking at and you're saying, whoa, how does

715
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: that happen? Well, they got it right there at that spot.

716
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: Jacobe Stevens not so much. I've known it from LSU.

717
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: But then Patrick Johnson, you know, it's another guy they get,

718
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: I mean the two lane defensive and he could be

719
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: a linebacker, he could be a rush in at two

720
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: thirty four. Man, it's great value. So just on my board,

721
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: the way they hit those picks, I was like, Okay,

722
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. I get it. And

723
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: you know, I thought they had a pretty good plan

724
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: for how they handled that. I thought the Eagles had

725
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 1: the best draft in the whole in the whole league. Honestly,

726
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: I thought they nailed it. One thing I'll say real

727
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: quick about Washington because they're the division champs. Kind of

728
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 1: up and down draft for them from for now. I

729
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: think if that Benjamin Saint Juice pick yeah three works

730
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: out for them, Yeah, if he turns out to be

731
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: a player, because all the traits are there, you're looking

732
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 1: at a really good draft. Because I know Dammy Brown

733
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 1: could play. Jommy Brown could play, he could play it. Yeah,

734
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: I know jam and Davis could play it. But you know,

735
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: I thought Washington, you know, as a whole, I liked

736
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Speaker 1: that they did late to William, Bradley King and Shocka Tony,

737
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 1: a couple of guys defensive animal like man. I'll bank

738
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: on one of those guys to work out as a

739
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: rotational player. So I thought Washington's draft was okay. But

740
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: I would draft did Eagles, Cowboys, Washington Giants would be

741
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: the order that I would put to it. Yeah, I'll

742
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: talk about the Giants. I think the Giants. Dave Getlman

743
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: did something that he's never done. He traded back multiple times.

744
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: Kadarius Kadarius, Tony to me is them finally addressing the

745
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: mistake that they made when they traded away Odell Beckham Junior.

746
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: When they trade away Odell Beckham Junior, they lost a

747
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 1: guy that could score from anywhere on the field. Kadarius

748
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: Tony gives them a guy that has similar traits in

749
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: terms of stops, our quickness and run after catchability, so

750
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: they needed that. Aziz Ojlari gives them a pass rusher.

751
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: It'd be interesting how they utilize him because that's not

752
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: their typical guy in terms of what they normally go after.

753
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: This is an old school team that typically has these

754
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: traits with long arms and all this other stuff. At

755
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,399
Speaker 1: least he's not necessarily that, and so he's not really

756
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 1: a handing the dirt gout To have him listed outside linebacker,

757
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: we'll see Aaron Robinson is solid on the perimeter. And

758
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: so you take their draft picks combined with what they've

759
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 1: been able to acquire in free agency, the Jazz are

760
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: an intriguing team. Now they feel like everything is on

761
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. We'll see how good the quarterback is. I

762
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: still don't know where he stacks up in the pecking order.

763
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: But defensively, this was a really good defense last year.

764
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: I think they'll continue to be a defense that kind

765
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: of challenges the rest of the rivals. I think, yeah,

766
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: at Bucky Kat did a great job on those because

767
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: I think that everybody had some momentum in a draft.

768
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: And you know, if you look at what the Eagles,

769
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: I think the Eagles did it throughout the draft where

770
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: the football team was like the first four picks, the Giants,

771
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: the first three picks. You know, the Cowboys had a

772
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 1: little up and down to him. But I think as

773
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: a whole the division it got a little better. Some

774
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: teams were very talent poor obviously you look at the record,

775
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: but for the football team to add another defensive piece

776
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: with jam and Davis there, and they didn't have a

777
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 1: left tackle, We'll see what Cosmi could do at left

778
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: tackle there, because that's a position they haven't they haven't

779
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: exactly replaced, you know, some of the losses they've had.

780
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 1: So but man, I mean that I think the football

781
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: team add and jam at Davis is a is a big, big,

782
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 1: big play there. And I'll be quickly so we get

783
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: to another question. But the one team in this division

784
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: that has a winning quarterback is dak is the Cowboys

785
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: and Dak Prescott. One thing that jumps out at me

786
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 1: about this division is looking around is like the clearly

787
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: the team with the quarterback is the Cowboys. There's no

788
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: excuses for not making the playoffs next year. No. I

789
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: love that KT very well said. Yeah, Bi, Bucky, win

790
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: into division should be win into division should be the standard,

791
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: like they should be able to win the division. He

792
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: had the best quarterback head and shoulders above the other guys.

793
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 1: I would say that the Washington football team, and my

794
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: mind got worse because with Ryan Fitzpatrick, more turnovers are

795
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: gonna happen. Like, I know, we love his magic, he

796
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: is going to turn the ball over. Jalen Hurts stepping

797
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,760
Speaker 1: up his second year, first full season as a starter,

798
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: what does that look like? And then dandah, this has

799
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,439
Speaker 1: kind of been up and down to me. Quarterback play

800
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: typically signals who is going to win a division. Deck

801
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: Rosscott is clearly the best quarterback. Now it's about making

802
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: sure that the defense gets to the middle of the pack,

803
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: because the offense should be a top five offense. Yeah,

804
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: but the football teams used to having quarterbacks on their defense.

805
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: He's used to having players with turnovers, so and they

806
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: still go out there and play. I mean, that's the

807
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: one thing about Fitzpatrick. He could throw five interceptions one

808
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: day and the next day he's going to throw six touchdowns.

809
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: I mean that's the kind of thing that you kind

810
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: of ride with. But at least he has a defense

811
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: that can fail him out when they if they have

812
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,760
Speaker 1: some of those games where he's not really on part.

813
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: I completely agree with you guys in your assessment of

814
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,399
Speaker 1: the NFC East drafts, and Brian, you talked about how

815
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: so many of those Philadelphia picks where in your top

816
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: one ninety. I mean out of the seven picks or

817
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: excuse me out of that, what is that one, two, three, four, five,

818
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: nine picks? Seven of them were in my top one

819
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: ninety and five were in my top one ten. So

820
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: I'm right there with you. I think Philadelphia had a

821
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: great draft. It's crazy to think because of there's a

822
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 1: lot of disappointment I think around this draft from at

823
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: least media personnel and people that we've worked with. But

824
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: like you guys said, in terms of executing what you

825
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: wanted to do for the Cowboys, I would put them

826
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: as the second best draft. I don't really like New

827
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: York's Tony's a really good player. Eikenberg's a really good player.

828
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: Outside of that, I wasn't super impressed with the Giants,

829
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: and then with Washington. Sure, they've got a lot of

830
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: potential there with jam and Davis and Samuel Cosme and

831
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: Benjamin Saint Juice, But ultimately there's only two or three

832
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: of those guys that I think are really top level

833
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: draft prospects that get me at least even more so

834
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: excited about Washington. I don't get excited about Washington, but

835
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: if I were too, that would be the only a

836
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 1: couple of players to do. So I'll tell you Washington,

837
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,240
Speaker 1: if you want to talk about a late pick at

838
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: pick two forty six at will Bradley King from Baylor,

839
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: that's kind of an interesting player there. If you talk

840
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: about guys at high effort, high motor, get after you

841
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: type of a guy. So you never know, man, some

842
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: of these guys were not focusing on in the Day three.

843
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: You know, it could the same thing for the Cowboys.

844
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: You know, Quentin behind and could be like a great

845
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: nose tackle for the Cowboys this season, you know, as

846
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: far as helping those linebackers and clocking some things up

847
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: in the middle. So those day threes, we call it

848
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: the day of the scouts. You know, maybe some scouts

849
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 1: came through for some of these teams. I love it.

850
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: Final question for Twitter on the twenty this season, and

851
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: it comes from a loyal listener, Jake, who first off,

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00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: I wanted to say thanks to all of you guys.

853
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: I'm talking to you. Three analysts tagged you guys in

854
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Speaker 1: it as well. Said second tone, he's He said, it's

855
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: a bittersweet day as the draft show going dark for

856
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: a couple of months, but football is right around the corner,

857
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: so he wanted to say thank you. But his question

858
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: was how many of the eleven draft picks would you

859
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: guess make the fifty three man roster? You think you

860
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: have a number on maybe how many of those guys

861
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: the Cowboys could be employee come this fall. Okay, so

862
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: you're gonna go one and Parsons two, and Joe said

863
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna go three. Um, jibbro Cox See how I

864
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: sheffle it and made Jim bro Cox pick seventy five instead?

865
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: Oh did you? Zoo? Wa is in especially seeing that

866
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: they cut Antoine Woods. Obviously, Chauncey Golston is in as

867
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: a rotational defensive lineman. So there's five the Sean Wright.

868
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: You know, they keep in mind that practice squad numbers

869
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: are gonna be up, and he might be it. He

870
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: might be a stash guy, and maybe they don't view

871
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: him that way just because I do. Uh Semi Fihoko

872
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: he could help him on special teams. But they still

873
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: have Cedrick Wilson. He could be a stash guy on

874
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: the on the on the practice squad, Josh Ball. You know,

875
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,959
Speaker 1: they signed a swing tackle. I don't think he'd really

876
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: need I think he could be a stash guy as well.

877
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: So five, I think bo Hannah makes the roster. So

878
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: there's six. I think they find a way to get

879
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: Mukuamu on the field because of his versatility, the ability

880
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: to play multiple positions. So it's a big number, but

881
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say seven out of the out of the eleven, right,

882
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: I'll tell you the thing about Yeah, Fahuko is the

883
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: one that I'm interested because that might be the replacement

884
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: for you know, Stephen Jones has kind of got this

885
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: us all kind of thinking about the salary cap and

886
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Cedric Wilson's a two million dollar player,

887
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: what's Noah Brown gonna be on this team. You know.

888
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 1: The thing with Simmi, he could play special teams. That's

889
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: a big box. That's a six four two twenty two

890
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: pound guy that runs four four three, you know, and

891
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,479
Speaker 1: I really love the pick. At the time. I talked

892
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: to a team yesterday about him. They were pissed off

893
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys jumped there up there and got him.

894
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: They were like positioning themselves to grab him. But I

895
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 1: think Kat's onto something. And here we'll see what happens

896
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: with Riot. I think what's gonna be really sad is

897
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:10,520
Speaker 1: there's gonna be so much fus on him and this

898
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: when we get to Oxnard, it's gonna be like every

899
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: time that he has a one on one rep and

900
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: it doesn't go well, and it's gonna be guys like

901
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 1: me standing on the sidelines going, well, you know what

902
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: they told us these little in corners, and they told

903
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: us about windows, and they told us about all this stuff.

904
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,959
Speaker 1: You know, he's probably going to be the most scrutinized

905
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: player out there, and everyone'll say, whoa, WHOA brought us?

906
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,479
Speaker 1: What about Parsons? What about you know what they're gonna

907
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: do with Parsons. They're gonna play to his strings. They're

908
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: gonna let him rush the passer. That's what they're gonna do.

909
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: They're gonna let him come down hill. They're gonna let

910
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: him rush the passer. They'll play to his strings. They'll

911
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 1: play to Cox's strings as well. That's what they'll do.

912
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 1: They'll find a way to put him in coverage. They

913
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: won't put him around the ball where he has to

914
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 1: make a bunch of tackles. You know, that's just kind

915
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: of I can kind of vision. I have a little vision,

916
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: you know what I'm going to see. But the thing

917
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 1: with right, that's the one that I think the critical

918
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 1: eye is always going to be focused on him every

919
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,959
Speaker 1: single practice. And I hope the kid is mentally tough

920
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 1: enough to handle it, because there's gonna be a lot

921
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: of stories written about him as we go through these

922
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: training camp and these OTA practices as we get started

923
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 1: here pretty soon. Yeah, I think it's a good observation.

924
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: Brian knows a little bit better than me when it

925
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 1: comes to teams. Some teams will not cut their draft picks,

926
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: and so I don't know if the Cowboys are one

927
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: that kind of hoard their draft picks to give them

928
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: every opportunity to make the team. But with the expanded

929
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: rosters on practice squad, I would think that I think

930
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: eight of the eleven are going to be around and

931
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 1: some capacity. I do believe when you listen to Stephen

932
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: Jones hint around the fact that we would like most

933
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 1: of our draft picks to make the team. From an

934
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: economical standpoint, it makes sense. You pointed out the receivers

935
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 1: that are commanding. It doesn't appear to be big money

936
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 1: in the biggest scheme of thing, but for backups two

937
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: million dollars from Cedril Wilson, that's a lot of money.

938
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: If you can slide in another cheaper option, a rookie

939
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 1: receiver on a rookie contract, you want to do that.

940
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: Some of the dbs that are kind of hanging around,

941
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 1: French players that haven't necessarily popped, that are veterans, man,

942
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: you've replaced those guys out with the young players. I

943
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: think in some capacity, eight of these guys are going

944
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: to be around. And I'm more optimistic about Nushine right

945
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: being around and on the roster because when you take

946
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: him into third round, man, it's hard to move on

947
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: from third rounds to unless he just absolutely flops well,

948
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: I know, but let's let's be honest here too. And

949
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 1: I just wrote down in my notes. You know what's

950
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: going to happen, Bucky. You know this better than anybody.

951
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: Some of these players need sponsors. And if your sponsors

952
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 1: no longer in the building, to kind of to kind

953
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: of take care of things. Think about Tristan Hill, think

954
00:48:55,560 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 1: about think about Neville Gallimore, think about Bradley a Nie.

955
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: Where does Bradley and I fit a three fourth front?

956
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: Can you make him a stand up outside linebacker? What

957
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 1: about Robinson the corner safety? There might be some kids

958
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: that they've taken in the last two years that never

959
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: play a down for the Dallas Cowboys that we that

960
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: like meaningful downs. And we're talking about guys that were

961
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: taking you know, third, fourth, fifth round. So if you

962
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 1: don't you know, when you start talking about a roster,

963
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 1: and how do you get eleven players on. Take a

964
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 1: few veterans off, and if some of these young kids

965
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: that we really didn't draft aren't what we think, watch

966
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 1: for those kids to move to Man, if you don't

967
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: have a stomach, you could catch trouble on this roster.

968
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 1: I think it's telling Antoine Woods already removed like, so

969
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,280
Speaker 1: if they can get him, because I thought he played

970
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: pretty well at times last year when he had a

971
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:54,720
Speaker 1: chance to get on the field and do some stuff

972
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: or whatever. So if they can move off from him,

973
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: You're already talking about Tristan Hill, He's talking about Riggie

974
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: Robinson in Jeoffardy. I mean, you're talking about some of

975
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: these other guys. Like it could be a full reshuffling

976
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: of the deck on defense because as dan Quinn comes

977
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: in and as he feels empowered to do so, this

978
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: defense is going to be his defense, full of guys

979
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: that he deems to be his kind of guys. It's unfortunate,

980
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: but that is what's going to happen. I expect them

981
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: to be able to move off of some of these prospects,

982
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,439
Speaker 1: these draft picks in the last few years. I don't

983
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: think it could have been put any better from you guys, specifically,

984
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: because I think there is a notice on that side

985
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 1: of the football that says nobody's job is safe right now,

986
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: and the draft showed that with eight different draft picks

987
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 1: that are on the defensive side, you're saying that, hey,

988
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: nobody's job is safe. Stephen Jones has said it specifically

989
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: and press conference, is wanting to replace some of these players,

990
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: some of these guys that aren't necessarily cheaper on that

991
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: side of the football. You're gonna see a lot of that.

992
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: And even with that, there's gonna be growth from this

993
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: draft pack, with this draft class as well. No Sean

994
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 1: Wright specifically, Katie, I know you said that he could

995
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 1: be a stash guy. I don't know if I see

996
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 1: him being a stash guy. I could see him being

997
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: a red shirt almost being one of those guys they

998
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: grow into the position, give them an adjustment period to

999
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 1: the NFL, almost like what we saw from Reggie Robinson

1000
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 1: last year, but without the position switch. And I think

1001
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: that might be something we see from Nashan, right. I

1002
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: think as a top one hundred pick, you're expected to play.

1003
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: I think you're expected to make the roster, but at

1004
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: the same time, there's going to be an adjustment process,

1005
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 1: I think from him specifically. So there's a lot to

1006
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: look for whenever we get to training camp and OTA's

1007
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 1: coming up in the next couple of weeks, let's go

1008
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,920
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Speaker 1: man first thing looking back on the draft and the season,

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00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 1: it was I think this was the most volative draft

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00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: that we've ever been associated with. I think the lack

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00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: of think tank. I think Will McClay even talked about

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00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: like guys not being around. It's probably it's probably the

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00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: purest draft that we've seen in sometimes because guys really

1067
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: had the trust to take and when you trust to tape,

1068
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: typically you make better decisions than not. And so I'll

1069
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: remember that in terms of my favorite pick, Like look

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00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 1: to me, I think the Parsons pick is my favorite

1071
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: because this was literally taking the best player available. And

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00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 1: I know there was a lot of conversation about need

1073
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 1: and those things and what do you need should you

1074
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 1: get the corner and that, but I think taking the

1075
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 1: best defender is going to pay off because coming back

1076
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,280
Speaker 1: in the second round and being able to get Joseph,

1077
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: he's a big time player and I think if he

1078
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: can kind of clean up the disciplinary issues on the field,

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00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 1: he has a chance to be a really solid player.

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00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 1: And I think they'll go two for two with those picks. Yeah,

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00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: my favorite pick was probably Jabril Cox at one fifteen.

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00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: I just thought that was extremely good value on Day

1083
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: three and I know that maybe you know kind of obvious,

1084
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: I will say I was covering the whole draft. My

1085
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 1: favorite picking the entire draft was pick eighty five the

1086
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 1: Packers getting Amari Rodgers. Why would your quarterback ever bitch

1087
00:55:54,920 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: about anything like you have Davante Adams and you have, uh,

1088
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 1: you know, have like the Buck tr They're spending money

1089
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: around you and they've given you a lot of money,

1090
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: Like why would you you went to two straight championship.

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00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: I don't understand, Like, I just can we have Can

1092
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 1: we have some competitive spirit in this world? Can we say?

1093
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,879
Speaker 1: You know what, I don't care that they took a kid.

1094
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna beat him out. He'll never play here and

1095
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be here a long time. Have some competitive spirit.

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00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: I mean, this is to me, this is Kevin Durant

1097
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: going It's never gonna work out in Oklahoma City, so

1098
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: I'll go join the best team in NBA history. But

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00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: the Warriors have some effing competitive spirit in your life?

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00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: You know. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying

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00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,879
Speaker 1: that and the draft to me, though, what it really

1102
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:46,879
Speaker 1: comes down to, it's amazing to me that a team

1103
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: like the Eagles are like, you know, I don't I

1104
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: guess we are gonna do the Jalen Hurts thing, like

1105
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: we're gonna actually try this, like they have a chance

1106
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: to just take justin fields like they could have done that.

1107
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: To me, though, it's just fun to do that, and

1108
00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:59,439
Speaker 1: it's fun to interact with all the people, the people

1109
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: on Twitter most of the time or nice, the people

1110
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: that send in questions, the Stephen Thomases and the Jakes,

1111
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: and hell, I'll say it, even the mister snappy comebacks

1112
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,879
Speaker 1: of the world whatever. They send in questions because that's

1113
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,879
Speaker 1: it's CRUs Yeah, they listen and they watch each week

1114
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 1: and and and they they ask us questions, and you know,

1115
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: they show us a million mock drafts. Bike. I love

1116
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: that the intensity, the intensity around the draft never gets old,

1117
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: and the action and I'm just thrilled to be a

1118
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 1: part of it because the Draft Show, to me, is

1119
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 1: a is an institution. Um, It's absolutely that is a

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00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: It's a in this time of year, people know, Hey,

1121
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: the Draft Show's going to be here right with the

1122
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: season's over. Sometimes that the team is bad even before

1123
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: the season's over, And that's an awesome thing. It's fun

1124
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: to look forward to crap every single year, you know,

1125
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: it's fun to look forward to stuff all the time.

1126
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 1: I look forward to the NC Double A Tournament. God knows,

1127
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 1: we're looking forward to September and basketball happening. So to me,

1128
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: it's all about the action. Boston, Huh. I just am

1129
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: happy and thrilled to be a part of it. If

1130
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: you would have asked me when I was you know,

1131
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: you know, whatever age you wanted to get to work

1132
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: with Bucky Brooks, I need to work with with a

1133
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: Brian broad Us. I'm older than Kyle, so I can't

1134
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: say you guys, but like, like it's it's incredible and

1135
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: I'm I'm just it's happy. I'm I'm happy and it's

1136
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. And I love you guys. Appreciate,

1137
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: appreciate you know what's so funny? Yet you know it's

1138
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: so funny about what Kat just did. Like I was

1139
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: standing on the practice field in Green Bay, Wisconsin, and

1140
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: maybe Bucky was standing on a practice field in Green Bay, Wisconsin.

1141
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 1: Kat's on the fits outside, like looking through the fits,

1142
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: like watching his team, and he just went on an

1143
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: epic Packer rant there. And I appreciate that, Kat, I

1144
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 1: really really do that. You appreciate you feel so strongly

1145
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: about the Packers as your team that you know you're

1146
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna call your quarterback back out. I appreciate

1147
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 1: that about you. He clown, he has been a clown,

1148
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: Like I mean, brought us. I know I'm talking about it.

1149
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 1: He's validating all of the rules with I'm here, I'm here,

1150
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:17,959
Speaker 1: I'm hearing, I'm hearing it. I'm hearing it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1151
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what though, And to can I just

1152
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: real quick, I'll let go. If you didn't get a

1153
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: chance on Tuesday, I said goodbyes on this stuff too,

1154
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: And you know, and I always I go all the

1155
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 1: way back to like the Ed k Hill days, and

1156
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: you know, and and when we were talking about that,

1157
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 1: he's kind of like Ed. I remember Ed going, do

1158
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 1: you think anybody cares about the NFL Draft? And I

1159
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 1: kind of look at him like, I don't know, man,

1160
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you look at mel Kuyper. It

1161
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:48,439
Speaker 1: seems pretty popular. You know. Maybe he goes, I'm thinking

1162
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 1: about doing this podcast, just giving us another show, give

1163
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:55,919
Speaker 1: us something else to talk about. And and I didn't

1164
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: initially see his vision. I really didn't. I'm like, man, well,

1165
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: you know, we have to do this, and we're gonna

1166
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: have to do that in order to make it work.

1167
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: But what's so funny is the more you got into it,

1168
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 1: the more you wanted to make it work, you know,

1169
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 1: and then you started adding people again. Dame Brugler, the

1170
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, you know, Kevin Turner, Jeff Kavanaugh, Dave Hellman.

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01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it just became this this thing, and then

1172
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you got fans, and you know,

1173
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 1: initially it was thinking about Dallas Cowboy fans. Let's talk

1174
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 1: to the Cowboy fans. But then it became like a

1175
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 1: worldwide thing for fans of all teams. And you know,

1176
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: that's the thing that I'm really the most proud about.

1177
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: When I look at the Draft show and the work

1178
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: that we've done. I just look at the fans of

1179
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: the Lions, the Buccaneers, the forty nine Ers, the Giants,

1180
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 1: people like that that watch our show because they trust

1181
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,439
Speaker 1: what we're saying about these players and they feel better

1182
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 1: connected to their own team that way. So, you know,

1183
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: I I say this in real and sinceria. I thank

1184
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: you guys out there for being a part of this.

1185
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 1: I thank my teammates for being a part of this.

1186
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 1: I thank the Jones family for having a lot of

1187
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 1: faith in us. I thank Derek Eagleton for keep pushing

1188
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: the envelope on this thing, because this is really, like

1189
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 1: Katie's talking about, It's become a little bit of institution

1190
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 1: that every year you know, you're gonna get draft coverage,

1191
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 1: and just like Katie gave his speech about the Packers,

1192
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 1: you're gonna get some passionate speeches on this about players,

1193
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 1: and I think that better educates folks. And that's what

1194
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 1: I'm so happy about the Draft Show and that we're

1195
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: able to bring it, you know, every week, you know,

1196
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: up till the draft, and then our draft coverage as well.

1197
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 1: It really is a ton of fun, and the fans

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01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 1: at home make it fun. And I completely echo exactly

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Speaker 1: what you just said, Brian, because looking down and seeing

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01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 1: the tweets and seeing the comments, and everybody's saying I've

1201
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 1: watched since twenty thirteen, You oh, I've been. I haven't

1202
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 1: missed the episode since twenty eighteen. All of those out

1203
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: there that just stick through every minute of draft coverage,

1204
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 1: I mean, we'd call you crazy pretty much bat the

1205
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 1: end of every one of our draft coverages, because if

1206
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 1: you're listening at two fifty five pick two fifty five

1207
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 1: on Day three, you've got a little screw loose, kind

1208
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 1: of like we do when it comes to the NFL Draft.

1209
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 1: We definitely resonate with that. So thank you everybody who

1210
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 1: has listened, who has made the Draft Show possible by

1211
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 1: your views, by your shares, by your comments and your

1212
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 1: questions all season long. We couldn't have had forty seven

1213
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: episodes without you guys out there being such a strong

1214
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 1: part of it. We couldn't have done it without everybody

1215
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 1: in the back as well. Chris Aaron, who did hours

1216
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 1: and hours and hours of work in preparation getting up

1217
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 1: to the draft and then even afterwards of really just

1218
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 1: getting everything together and providing some really really good production value.

1219
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 1: Matt Kent, Doug Branch, Madison Kate and Alex Derek Eagleton,

1220
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,360
Speaker 1: like you mentioned, Nick Eatman, everybody who has been a

1221
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 1: part of this. It has really been a ton of

1222
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 1: fun in a year that nobody will ever forget. And

1223
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 1: I said this on Tuesday, I'll say it again today.

1224
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 1: Let's not start this thing in jail in December again

1225
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: next year. Let's try and get into the off season

1226
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 1: first and then start talking about some NFL draft. But Bucky,

1227
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 1: thanks for being a part of it this year. We

1228
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 1: got we got to talk with you last year, and

1229
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 1: it really was different this year getting you on every

1230
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 1: week in a part of the Draft Show. You are

1231
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 1: are Kevin Durant, you're an MVP caliber player who might

1232
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 1: hop around from time to time. But that's okay. You

1233
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 1: are telling the Kyle. But he's got some competitive spirit though. Yeah,

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01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 1: you're right, Yeah, he's will compete. Yeah, I got number

1235
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 1: seven on him. He'll go compete. Yeah, oh about seven.

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Speaker 1: Oh now, it's a lot of fun. It was. It

1237
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 1: was really great, um being on with you guys, because

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01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: I will say this, Um Katie didn't get a chance

1239
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 1: to shut up Jeff and Dane Brian, Like I think

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01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 1: for me, it is really great to not only have

1241
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 1: these conversations, but to be challenged on your opinions and

1242
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 1: on your views and to stretch yourself as a scout.

1243
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 1: I think that's really really important, And at a time

1244
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 1: where some people don't like to hear that, I really

1245
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 1: welcome to debate because I think if you're going to

1246
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 1: be the best at what it is that we all

1247
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 1: want to do, I think you have to be able

1248
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 1: to step outside yourself and see it in other prisms.

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01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 1: And I think you guys have given me what forty

1250
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 1: something episodes to be able to kind of challenge my

1251
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 1: thought process forty something because I didn't make them all

1252
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 1: so forty something, so no, I think it's great, and

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01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 1: I think it's great, and I look forward to doing

1254
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 1: it again and again. It was a lot of fun,

1255
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 1: no doubt about it, Katie. Great work is always Brian.

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01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 1: It's a pleasure like it is every year, Flucky as

1257
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 1: fun as it has been at We look at having

1258
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 1: you again in the future. But for everybody I just

1259
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 1: mentioned a moment ago and these three fantastic analysts will

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Speaker 1: see you next year on the Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: Draft Show. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.