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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, peeps, and welcome to woke F Daily with

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<v Speaker 1>me your girl, Danielle Moody recording from the Long Island Bunker.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I often say to you that you need

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<v Speaker 1>to take a break so that you do not have

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<v Speaker 1>a breakdown. And with all of the compacted crises that

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<v Speaker 1>we are dealing with at this time and making the

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<v Speaker 1>march to midterms, there never seems like the right time

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<v Speaker 1>to take a break. But I say that you have

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<v Speaker 1>to make that time. And so for me, dear friends

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<v Speaker 1>here on woke F, I am going to be taking

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<v Speaker 1>a much needed vacation so that I can rest and

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<v Speaker 1>recharge as we head into what I believe is going

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<v Speaker 1>I have left you with eight amazing episodes that we

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<v Speaker 1>And so, friends, while I will be out from the show,

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<v Speaker 1>am so excited to be joined on woke FFI daily

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<v Speaker 1>with the newly anointed CEO of Girls Who Code, doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Terica Barrett. Welcome to woke f and congratulations on your

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<v Speaker 1>new position. You were co of Girls Who Code, which

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<v Speaker 1>is an international organization dedicated to connecting young girls two

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<v Speaker 1>computer skills to technology and giving them the ability to

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<v Speaker 1>succeed in the twenty first century in an area that

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<v Speaker 1>is largely dominated still by men and mostly white men

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<v Speaker 1>and boys. Tell us about what it means to take

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<v Speaker 1>on this role at this time, in the midst of

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<v Speaker 1>a pandemic, when we are at the height of remote

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<v Speaker 1>learning essentially everywhere, not just in this country in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, but your organization globally represents girls around the world.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a situation that we're dealing with globally. What

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<v Speaker 1>does this undertaking mean to you at this particular moment, Danielle, First,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for your wonderful introduction. Your excitement is infectious

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<v Speaker 1>and I can't tell you how energized I am to

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<v Speaker 1>be stepping into this role of CEO at Girls who Code.

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<v Speaker 1>Everything you're saying about what this moment represents is true

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<v Speaker 1>and for me, you know, COVID has really laid bear

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<v Speaker 1>the inequities that so many of our girls and our women,

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<v Speaker 1>especially our girls and women of color, are facing, both

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<v Speaker 1>in school and in the workplace. You know, as a

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<v Speaker 1>lifelong educator and equity advocate, and as someone who's helped

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<v Speaker 1>lead Girls who Code now for the past five years.

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<v Speaker 1>As challenging as this past year has been with the

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<v Speaker 1>layers of inequity, I also feel energized to build on

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<v Speaker 1>this incredible foundation that Rushma has laid to close this

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<v Speaker 1>widening gender gap in tech. You know, as you pointed out,

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<v Speaker 1>a space that is typically you know, white, male dominated,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have worked so hard over close to nine

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<v Speaker 1>years now to build this incredible movement of girls and

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<v Speaker 1>women who now see a path forward in tech. And

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<v Speaker 1>as CEO stepping into this seat, it is my job

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<v Speaker 1>to harness that movement and really expand and extend the

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<v Speaker 1>pipeline so that more girls and women and especially girls

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<v Speaker 1>and women of color, have opportunity. And you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>means tangible things like tripling the number of after school

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<v Speaker 1>clubs that we launch over the next few years. It

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<v Speaker 1>also means launching workforce development programs and mentorship programs so

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<v Speaker 1>that our young women know that we're going to support

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<v Speaker 1>them as they move into the workforce. We know that

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<v Speaker 1>as bad as things are now, tech is still going

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<v Speaker 1>to be central to the job markets recovery, and we

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<v Speaker 1>can't have our girls and women, especially our girls and

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<v Speaker 1>women of color, being left out when these opportunities present.

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<v Speaker 1>So this moment is dire, it is urgent, and as

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<v Speaker 1>I step into this seat, I want to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that our most marginalized girls, the ones who've dropped out

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<v Speaker 1>of remote learning opportunities, that we are paying attention to

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<v Speaker 1>them and supporting them in our work moving forward. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about that for a minute, the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>young girls are dropping out of learning. You know, UNICEF

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<v Speaker 1>estimates that we're looking at roughly twenty million secondary school

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<v Speaker 1>age girls around the globe, around twenty million dropping out

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<v Speaker 1>of school because of the pandemic. We hear reports in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States with at least two million women dropping

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<v Speaker 1>out of the workforce because of the pandemic. Why do

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<v Speaker 1>you think that this is affecting girls and women more

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<v Speaker 1>so than it is any other demographic And what is

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<v Speaker 1>Girls who Code doing in order to stemmy this, to

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<v Speaker 1>stop it from happening, or at least bring attention to

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that it is happening. Yeah, Danielle, I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>grateful for that question. You know, if we think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>our girls and young women are the caregivers. They're the

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<v Speaker 1>ones who are often turned to in families to support,

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<v Speaker 1>to take care of siblings, to take care of parents.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also connected to the culture shift that Girls who

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<v Speaker 1>Code has been so committed to changing. We know that

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<v Speaker 1>when you think about a computer program or a coder,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't think of a girl. They're often not encouraged

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<v Speaker 1>by parents, by peers, by teachers. Our education system doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>it's not set up to funnel them into these opportunities.

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<v Speaker 1>So in this moment, I find that our girls and

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<v Speaker 1>young women are the burden bearers. They're the ones who

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<v Speaker 1>are spoking in and doing all of this work. And

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<v Speaker 1>we know what's happening to young women with children. They've

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<v Speaker 1>had to step out of the workforce to support families

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<v Speaker 1>ed girls who code. The way that we think about

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<v Speaker 1>this urgent issue is to make sure that all the

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<v Speaker 1>programming that we design and that we launched contemplates the

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<v Speaker 1>needs and challenges that our girls are facing. So, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>we would run typically a seven week summer immersion program.

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<v Speaker 1>We shifted that with COVID to a two week program.

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<v Speaker 1>We surveyed our girls. We checked on what they needed.

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<v Speaker 1>Were they taking care of loved ones, did they have

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<v Speaker 1>to do, you know, get earned money on the side,

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<v Speaker 1>Did they have a computer? Did they have access to internet?

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<v Speaker 1>We have to make sure that we are asking our

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<v Speaker 1>girls what they need, but that we are also planting

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<v Speaker 1>seeds of hope and remembering that as much as we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about learning loss in one breath and disengagement and marginalization,

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<v Speaker 1>we know that our girls are going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>key to what gets transformed in this world. You know, passionate,

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<v Speaker 1>ambitious and diverse young women are going to change our workforce.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have to continue to invest in them, and

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<v Speaker 1>so at Girls who Code, our programming is very much

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<v Speaker 1>designed to support them in spite of the burdens that

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<v Speaker 1>they're facing in this moment with COVID. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>we oftentimes you don't deal with things until we until

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<v Speaker 1>we're in crisis, and the reality is, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>was just speaking with New York City MARYL candidate Maya

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<v Speaker 1>Wiley earlier this week, and in our conversation talking about

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<v Speaker 1>New York City Public Schools, who you and I both

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<v Speaker 1>worked for at one time, the largest school district in

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<v Speaker 1>the country, she I said to her, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>knew years ago that these communities didn't have broadband. We

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<v Speaker 1>knew years ago that they didn't have the access to technology,

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<v Speaker 1>let alone the devices that we're going to set them

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<v Speaker 1>up for where we are now with remote learning. But

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<v Speaker 1>we did nothing. You know, we continue to create pandemic

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<v Speaker 1>on top of crises, on top of pandemic on top

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<v Speaker 1>of crisis, as if we're layering some type of lasagna,

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<v Speaker 1>and the reality is that we have the tools right

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<v Speaker 1>and the awareness to fix it. Why don't we tackle

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<v Speaker 1>these things on the front end. You think that's such

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<v Speaker 1>a good question you had me when you set a lasagna.

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<v Speaker 1>I've nothing to do with Danielle. I mean, that is

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<v Speaker 1>an important question, but I would say that very often.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, inequity is complex, and you know, people deal

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<v Speaker 1>with what's in front of them. When you think about

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<v Speaker 1>this digital divide that you said has been here forever,

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<v Speaker 1>that is true. We've always known it, but we decide

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<v Speaker 1>to pay attention to other the gaps in schools or

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<v Speaker 1>other things. And now we're recognizing, like, oh, we wonder

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<v Speaker 1>why our black and brown kids were never succeeding in

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<v Speaker 1>school when they would go home and they couldn't Google

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<v Speaker 1>search up the answer to their homework, just like these

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<v Speaker 1>other kids who had access to high speed internet. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's really laid bare the inequities in a really stark way.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hopeful though that the steps that are being taken

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<v Speaker 1>now to level the playing field. I think it's something

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<v Speaker 1>like over a third of you know, black and Latino

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<v Speaker 1>students don't have access to computers, you know, and high

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<v Speaker 1>speed internet, and we know that twelve million students don't

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<v Speaker 1>have access to high speed internet overall. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>moment to not only sort of bridge that gap, but

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<v Speaker 1>go a step further. We have to take the learnings

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<v Speaker 1>that are positive in this moment around learning and digital

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<v Speaker 1>and the ways in which some kids have been given

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<v Speaker 1>some different kinds of engagement and opportunity and we have

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<v Speaker 1>to build on that and do even more. I wish

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<v Speaker 1>I knew why folks didn't act on some of these things.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's be honest. Racism is real inequity of pop

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<v Speaker 1>and very often it becomes a hierarchy of needs and

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a messed up hierarchy. It shouldn't be,

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<v Speaker 1>you know this. Instead of that, I would say, access

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<v Speaker 1>to high speed internet is a human right. You cannot

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<v Speaker 1>succeed in society without it, and so I'm hopeful that

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<v Speaker 1>it's a complete paradigm shift that we're looking at moving forward.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, one of the questions that I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you and next was about that, because I think

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I talk about on woke app is

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<v Speaker 1>that there are lots of opportunities that you can see

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<v Speaker 1>in obstacles right if you were looking for them. There

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<v Speaker 1>are lots of lessons and learnings that we can take

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<v Speaker 1>from the last year of living in this pandemic of

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<v Speaker 1>having to shift our lives in such a way right

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<v Speaker 1>and adapt into a situation that is completely abnormal and

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<v Speaker 1>foreign to us, like remote learning. And I think about

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<v Speaker 1>the challenges that teachers have, that parents have, and caregivers

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<v Speaker 1>have in this moment, not only to take care of

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<v Speaker 1>the emotional well being of children right as you're explaining

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<v Speaker 1>this moment to them, but also their academic needs. What

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<v Speaker 1>are some of the things that you think that we

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<v Speaker 1>should take from this moment, take from the last year

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<v Speaker 1>of remote learning, of innovation, building the plane while we're

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<v Speaker 1>flying it, that we should take with us as we

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<v Speaker 1>move forward in our education because to me, honestly, our

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<v Speaker 1>education system has been very stagnant. It has not adapted

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<v Speaker 1>to the ways in which we are working and living.

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<v Speaker 1>Right we're still operating as if we're living in the

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<v Speaker 1>twentieth century as it pertains to our education, even in

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<v Speaker 1>just the timing the time that school starts right and

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<v Speaker 1>the time that it ends. So what are some of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that you were seeing the girls who code

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<v Speaker 1>is seeing that we said, you know what, this obstacle

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<v Speaker 1>presented this opportunity and we should dig more into this.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that question, and I'm proud that there are

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<v Speaker 1>educators you being a former educator yourself, who are really

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<v Speaker 1>actively thinking about this. Let's be honest, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>would say a lot of folks kicking and screaming, had

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out how to teach kids in this moment,

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<v Speaker 1>And the good news is that we're never ever going

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<v Speaker 1>to go back to what you describe, which is some archaic,

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<v Speaker 1>antiquated way of thinking about things. At Girls who Code.

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<v Speaker 1>What it did for us is that it really broke

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<v Speaker 1>down the geographical barriers, especially with our summer immersion program,

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<v Speaker 1>which was in person girls going on field trips in

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<v Speaker 1>corporate partner spaces. All of a sudden, we could say

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<v Speaker 1>to ourselves, what would it mean to reach even more

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<v Speaker 1>girls than ever before? And we did. We would typically

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<v Speaker 1>register sixteen hundred girls, and then this past summer we

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<v Speaker 1>register five thousand and most diverse groups. Also quote already

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<v Speaker 1>half of the girls we serve our black latins low income.

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<v Speaker 1>But here we were these rich, diverse classrooms that we

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<v Speaker 1>were able to assemble because of geographical boundaries broke down.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think every educator has to think about that

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<v Speaker 1>in a very similar way. Why is it that some

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<v Speaker 1>schools offer ap computer science and some don't. All of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden, with online learning, we realize you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to do it that way. Why would you deny any

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<v Speaker 1>child access to advanced coursework? So I would say things

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<v Speaker 1>like that, how you group students in terms of levels

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<v Speaker 1>and all these things. Leverage the technology for equity, leverage

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<v Speaker 1>the technology for access. There are so many ways in

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<v Speaker 1>which that we can learn from this moment. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>hopeful that folks continue to push themselves and think outside

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<v Speaker 1>the box. I really love that question. You know. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the problems too that we are seeing is, aside

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<v Speaker 1>from the fact that millions of Americans have lost their jobs, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that young people that our college age are trying to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out now how they navigate one uh their higher education,

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<v Speaker 1>but with the understanding that there may not be a

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<v Speaker 1>job on the other side. Right, And this is this

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<v Speaker 1>has been a problem that we've had, We've been facing

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<v Speaker 1>on multiple fronts. It's why we talk about debt relief.

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<v Speaker 1>It's why we you know, why we talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that one should not have to go into debt

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<v Speaker 1>in order to get a higher education. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>surveys that you all have done in the spring, in

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<v Speaker 1>surveying your alumni is recognizing that thirty percent of those

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<v Speaker 1>have either lost jobs or lost opportunities and internships. And

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<v Speaker 1>we know that those are what set us up for

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<v Speaker 1>the future. Right, These internships and these opportunities, the exposure

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<v Speaker 1>or what allow us to really have fine success. So,

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<v Speaker 1>how how is Girls who Code navigating that space? Understanding

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<v Speaker 1>that in many ways that the job market has shrunk. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>we know that we've been losing various industries. You're in

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<v Speaker 1>a space where you're you're in the expanded space, but

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<v Speaker 1>even still right focusing on technology, they have still seen

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<v Speaker 1>loss in their ability to advance their academic careers. How

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<v Speaker 1>are you meeting that challenge? Thank you, As you were talking,

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<v Speaker 1>before I even knew you were going to cite our statistic,

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to say thirty percent our young women.

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<v Speaker 1>It is so stark. The minute that we heard it,

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<v Speaker 1>we had to jump into action and think about what

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<v Speaker 1>we could do. I mentioned the fact that we are

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<v Speaker 1>deeply committed to workforce. We have over eighty thousand college

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<v Speaker 1>age alums that we have talked to code at Girls

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<v Speaker 1>who Code, and we recognize that supporting that group and

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<v Speaker 1>entering the tech workforce and thriving is our agenda. And

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<v Speaker 1>so among the things we did, we launched Girls who

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<v Speaker 1>Code Talks, a talk series to just begin to especially

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<v Speaker 1>our young women at the beginning of the pandemic who

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't even visited colleges at that point, how did we

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<v Speaker 1>bring the information to them? And again the survey, we

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<v Speaker 1>ask them what are you experiencing? And then we immediately

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<v Speaker 1>go back as a team and say what can we

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<v Speaker 1>do as an organization in this moment? And we have

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a number of generous corporate partners that we

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<v Speaker 1>work with, and we immediately said, what do we need

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<v Speaker 1>to do with you? How do you change this moment

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<v Speaker 1>for our young women who need this desperately, And we're

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<v Speaker 1>proud to say that, you know, when job opportunities evaporated

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<v Speaker 1>and internships evaporated, we said, you know what, let's step

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<v Speaker 1>into this gap and have a hiring summit. We have

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<v Speaker 1>over eight hundred girls participate, you know, just off the gate.

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<v Speaker 1>We also decided to launch a work prep program pilot

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<v Speaker 1>that we're doing right now because what you said is true.

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<v Speaker 1>It's those experiences, those social networks, getting your feet wet,

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<v Speaker 1>understanding the culture and what's happening at these companies that

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<v Speaker 1>allows our young women to feel confident to also make connections.

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<v Speaker 1>We know that things have to change on the culture side.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a whole other conversation in terms of what's happening,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, at tech companies and other companies, but we

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<v Speaker 1>want to make sure that our young women feel supported,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we're making we're providing that connective tissue for them,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in a moment when jobs have evaporated and internships

0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:15.080
<v Speaker 1>that have evaporated. I can't say that we've figured it

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<v Speaker 1>all out, but we are so deeply committed to this

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<v Speaker 1>that we think that these pilots are the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>deeper work that we're going to do as an organization

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<v Speaker 1>moving forward. And as CEO, I am so committed and

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<v Speaker 1>passionate about this issue because I think it's the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to allow us to continue to have the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of impact we've had in serving over three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>thousand girls with our programming. This is the next frontier

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<v Speaker 1>for girls who code, making sure we get them into

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<v Speaker 1>the tech industry and that they actually stay there. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've had the good fortune of being an advisor over

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<v Speaker 1>the last I think five to six years with Lesbians

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<v Speaker 1>Who Tech and Allies and as Lesbians who Tech works

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<v Speaker 1>to integrate the tech industry in a space where queer

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<v Speaker 1>women can see themselves and essentially create a culture or

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<v Speaker 1>be a part of a culture where they can bring

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<v Speaker 1>their full selves in what are some of the I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>the skills, the counseling that you provide for these girls.

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<v Speaker 1>That isn't just about how you learn how to code,

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<v Speaker 1>but I mean a lot of this, like we were

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<v Speaker 1>saying before we started, is also about code switching, which

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<v Speaker 1>we know that black and brown girls have to do

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<v Speaker 1>more so than their white counterpart and peers. And that

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<v Speaker 1>there isn't It isn't just enough that we know the

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<v Speaker 1>ins and outs of the job, but it's also knowing

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<v Speaker 1>enough of how to navigate a culture that doesn't actually

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<v Speaker 1>want us to show up as our full selves. And

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<v Speaker 1>so how do you how do you educate your girls

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<v Speaker 1>about that so that they stay in they stay in

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<v Speaker 1>this they stay in the workforce, and stay in this industry.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I love that question, Danielle. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we did a study with Accenture where we've learned that

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's fifty percent of women who enter the

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<v Speaker 1>tech workforce actually leave within their first five years, which

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<v Speaker 1>is hard to believe in As you said, when you

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<v Speaker 1>think about women of color, queer women of color in

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<v Speaker 1>a space that is not designed for them, not welcoming,

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<v Speaker 1>we think our anchors and really exist in the way

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<v Speaker 1>that we just approach the work at girls who code,

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<v Speaker 1>So we're not just teaching, as you said, computer science.

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<v Speaker 1>We're teaching girls to lead and to thrive in that

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<v Speaker 1>tech workforce. And so much of that is knowing who

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<v Speaker 1>they are. If you think about our curriculum, and of course,

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<v Speaker 1>the coding is great. Girls build robots, they know, they

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<v Speaker 1>design websites, they do all of this stuff. But guess

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<v Speaker 1>what the secret sauce is. It's the sisterhood. It's the brave, if,

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<v Speaker 1>the resilience, and that we create programs where they understand

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<v Speaker 1>they're showing up as their full selves every day that

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<v Speaker 1>they do either a seven week intensive or a two

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<v Speaker 1>week intensive. And I'm proud to say that the projects

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<v Speaker 1>that we have at the end are things like where

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<v Speaker 1>do you climb black haircare products? What's going on? Oh yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>They sure yes snatch up their projects and say, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I need this for myself. But they're the ones solving

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<v Speaker 1>problems like bullying, racism, discrimination, because guess what, girls and

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<v Speaker 1>especially our girls of color, know what's ahead of us

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<v Speaker 1>and the challenges that are going to make this world

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<v Speaker 1>a better place, and so they bring that spirit into

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<v Speaker 1>how they enter the tech workforce and listen, it's not enough.

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<v Speaker 1>We know that the tech industry needs a culture reset,

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<v Speaker 1>but we continue as an organization to hold feet to

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<v Speaker 1>the fire in terms of honest and candid conversations with

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<v Speaker 1>our corporate partners and anyone who will listen. And we're

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<v Speaker 1>so grateful for platforms like this one, Danielle. But we're

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<v Speaker 1>also making sure on the other side that our girls

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<v Speaker 1>and young women understand who they are and who they

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<v Speaker 1>will continue to be because they add such tremendous value.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's the industry that needs to change, not our

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<v Speaker 1>girls and young women, and we're committed to making sure

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<v Speaker 1>they know that. I love that. I love that you

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<v Speaker 1>say that it's the industry that needs to change and

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<v Speaker 1>not your girls. You know, last question that I have

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<v Speaker 1>for you is really with regard to the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>you're a working mom, right, And we started this conversation

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<v Speaker 1>saying that, you know, two million women have left the

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<v Speaker 1>workforce and probably by the time that COVID is all

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<v Speaker 1>said and done, there will be probably millions more. What

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<v Speaker 1>advice do you offer to women, I mean, especially you're

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<v Speaker 1>taking on this extraordinary role at this extraordinary time in

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<v Speaker 1>our country and our history in our world. What advice

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<v Speaker 1>do you have to women that, frankly, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't imagine because I don't have kids, but I see

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<v Speaker 1>how difficult it has been, how how hard the struggle

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<v Speaker 1>has been. What advice do you have for women that

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<v Speaker 1>feel like they're they're hanging on by a thread right now,

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<v Speaker 1>that they're trying to do both and they're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>be the mother, the partner, you know, the good worker,

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<v Speaker 1>all of these hats that women are forced to wear

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<v Speaker 1>right now. And I just think you know, whether or

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<v Speaker 1>not you hang up a zoom and have a breakdown

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<v Speaker 1>like the rest of us, I don't know, But what

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<v Speaker 1>if you have advice for you know, for other women,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, please let us let us know what tools

0:25:28.640 --> 0:25:31.880
<v Speaker 1>you use in order to keep yourself going. I appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>that question about tools. And I remember I was in

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<v Speaker 1>an interview and someone asked me about a framework. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, a framework that sounds way too fancy for

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm trying to do with my life right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in a staff meeting and explained to some

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<v Speaker 1>staff members that I am an introvert, which is something

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, many of the staff just did had

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<v Speaker 1>no idea and someone said to me, you know, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for doing everything that you're doing every day, as

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<v Speaker 1>hard as it may be, free you because you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>it for our girls. And I almost wept because she

0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:05.080
<v Speaker 1>said it in a way that I had never said

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<v Speaker 1>it to myself. I think as women just barely holding on,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to just say, true confession, I am

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<v Speaker 1>barely holding on to my kids who are disengaged who

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I'm losing every day to YouTube, you know, minecraft,

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<v Speaker 1>endless tutorials and all kinds of things. You know, we

0:26:24.840 --> 0:26:27.600
<v Speaker 1>all have sometimes our parents are loved ones who are

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<v Speaker 1>struggling with different things. It's almost as though COVID has

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<v Speaker 1>amplified and magnified every challenge that we've ever faced. Professional

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<v Speaker 1>my advice is to just first know that you're not alone.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know any woman who isn't struggling, regardless of

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<v Speaker 1>role or title. I feel like I'm stepping into this

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<v Speaker 1>because of a need, not because I am somehow you know,

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<v Speaker 1>special or different or superhuman. I'm doing it because our girls,

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<v Speaker 1>and especially our girls of color, need this advocacy in

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<v Speaker 1>this support or your anchor might be your own family.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's true for me as well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think about my mum in Jamaica, I think about

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<v Speaker 1>my kids. I think about what I represent for every

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<v Speaker 1>brown girl looking at this transition and saying, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>she's the CEO of you know, one of the largest

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<v Speaker 1>girls organizations in the world. Find your piece, your anchor,

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<v Speaker 1>your moments to stay whole because our hair is on fire. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know which way is up or down.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even have a full size refrigerator, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know that's not a big problem, but I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to say that in COVID everything has broken in our

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<v Speaker 1>home and we don't have anything working. And again, that

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<v Speaker 1>is small, very tiny compared to what people are facing.

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<v Speaker 1>But I use humor a lot. I laugh when I

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<v Speaker 1>can't cry. Whatever is that grounds you? Meditation is big

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<v Speaker 1>for me. I wouldn't call it exercise without putting very

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<v Speaker 1>large air quotes on it because I'm not breaking a sweat.

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<v Speaker 1>But I feel good about myself after twenty minutes because

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<v Speaker 1>I did something. Find people who affirm you know that

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<v Speaker 1>you know we're all going through it, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just so grateful for my fellow women who support

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<v Speaker 1>me that can tie to support each other we are

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<v Speaker 1>special that way, and we're going to get through this

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to make up the ground and we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to do better than we ever did because we

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<v Speaker 1>have no choice. But it's who we are, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I just stay as optimistic as I possibly can. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that we are going to do better than

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<v Speaker 1>we've ever did because we have leaders like you that

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<v Speaker 1>are taking the helm, that are doing the work, and

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<v Speaker 1>that are inspiring us along their journey. Doctor Driga Barrett,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for joining wikaf and I hope

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<v Speaker 1>that you will come back, as you know, grab the

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<v Speaker 1>reins of girls who code and bring us along on

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<v Speaker 1>this journey. Any which way that we can help, we will. Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so grateful again. Thank you so much. Your show

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<v Speaker 1>is wonderful, this platform is wonderful, and please keep doing

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<v Speaker 1>what you're doing in elevating voices and things that are

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<v Speaker 1>so critical for everyone. Thank you for who you are

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<v Speaker 1>and what you're doing. No, thank you as always, dear friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Power to the people and to all the people. Power

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<v Speaker 1>get woke and stay woke as fuck. See after Labor

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<v Speaker 1>Day