Speaker 1: What's that at the foot of my bed. It's spooky
Speaker 1: and jooky. I'm pretty sure it's dead. It's coming this way.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I said.
Speaker 3: Hiros Ends, Hey boo, it's me Roz.
Speaker 1: Happy twenty twenty one. I don't know. I've missed you. God,
Speaker 1: I have missed you, guys. I mean i've I was
Speaker 1: still doing, like, you know, episodes on Patreon, which you
Speaker 1: can still listen to. I did two full length episodes
Speaker 1: on Patreon the past two weeks. But here I haven't
Speaker 1: gotten to talk to you, and I feel like we
Speaker 1: have a lot of catching up to do. So basically,
Speaker 1: you know, I talked to my friend Jinx Monsoon, winner
Speaker 1: of RuPaul's Drag Race. We had such a great time talking.
Speaker 1: We talked about so many things. Okay, now, Jinks practices witchcraft.
Speaker 1: We talk a lot about witchcraft. We talk about crystals,
Speaker 1: we talk about haunted locations. We even talked about a
Speaker 1: haunted doll that Jinks hadded as a child. So there's
Speaker 1: just a lot going on. And since I have so
Speaker 1: much that I want to talk about, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: do kind of like a long intro, and then we're
Speaker 1: gonna do this conversation with Jinks chopped up into two parts,
Speaker 1: plus you know, the regular Patreon bonus clips, patreon dot
Speaker 1: com slash roles. Dressful as Now, one of the first
Speaker 1: things that I have to tell you is I think
Speaker 1: I had a paranormal experience or something. I mean, something
Speaker 1: I can't really explain. It was very weird. Okay, so
Speaker 1: listen to this picture. It it's a night like any other.
Speaker 1: It was like, I don't know, six pm. I decided, Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm just so exhausted from doing literally no thing for
Speaker 1: the past nine months. I deserve a nap. So I'm
Speaker 1: taking a nap on my couch and you know, it's
Speaker 1: dark out, but like it's still only like six pm.
Speaker 1: And I, as you know, I prefer to sleep on
Speaker 1: my face because I'm afraid that I sleep on my back.
Speaker 1: I'm on have sleep paralysis. And that's why I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to get a lot of botox, because it also
Speaker 1: causes wrinkles if you sleep on your face. But so
Speaker 1: I was so tired I slept on my back. Now
Speaker 1: I don't think that I had sleep paralysis, but I'm
Speaker 1: laying there and I physically felt somebody touch my knee
Speaker 1: and I look up and my partner Bo is standing
Speaker 1: right there and he just like, you know, he touched me.
Speaker 1: I opened my eyes and then I kind of like
Speaker 1: adjusted my eyes and he was gone. And I was like,
Speaker 1: that was weird, but whatever, I must just be so
Speaker 1: tired that I'm just imagining things. So then I go
Speaker 1: back to sleep and I don't know how many minutes.
Speaker 1: Who knows anything when it comes to time these days,
Speaker 1: but I I go back to sleep, and maybe a
Speaker 1: few minutes later, I feel it again on my knee
Speaker 1: and I open my eyes and he actually is standing
Speaker 1: right there and he's like, hey, I'm about to go
Speaker 1: to the grocery store. Do you need anything? And then
Speaker 1: I was like wide awake. I was like what that
Speaker 1: was so weird, and I didn't say anything to him.
Speaker 1: But then later I was like, I felt you touch
Speaker 1: my knee and then I opened my eyes and you
Speaker 1: were there, and then you weren't there, and he was like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I did touch your knee and I was there, and
Speaker 1: I was like no, no, no, not the time when you
Speaker 1: woke me up and you tell me you're going to
Speaker 1: the grocery store like before that. And he's like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's weird, and he was like, you know, I did
Speaker 1: think about touching your knee and waking you up, but
Speaker 1: then I decided to wait a couple minutes before I
Speaker 1: did it. So it's like you didn't even come buy me,
Speaker 1: Like you didn't touch me at all. You weren't even
Speaker 1: in this general area of my couch. And he was like, no,
Speaker 1: I just thought about it. So I'm like, is that
Speaker 1: some kind of like astral projection like he thought it
Speaker 1: and I was in some dream state and it kind
Speaker 1: of happened in an alternate dimension. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: it was very weird. And I'm telling you, I really
Speaker 1: did physically feel him touch me, and I did see
Speaker 1: him for just like a split second. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Is this something am I grasping for ghost experiences? I
Speaker 1: think I think I had some kind of experience, you know,
Speaker 1: in that kind of astral body sleep state thing. So
Speaker 1: there's one of the things I wanted to talk about.
Speaker 1: Lots of things happening in the news. I mean, we've
Speaker 1: literally been in one week of twenty twenty one, and
Speaker 1: there have already been a couple of like paranormal things
Speaker 1: that I've read about, or a paranormal adjacent. Did you
Speaker 1: hear about the people in South Carolina that went ghost
Speaker 1: hunting and instead of finding a ghost, they found a
Speaker 1: dead body in a freezer. Because that happened, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's terrible. I'm not gonna make light of it, but
Speaker 1: terrifying as well. Here's an article from Daily Beast. This
Speaker 1: was posted on the fourth of January. They say, ATV
Speaker 1: riders stumble upon dead body in a freezer at quote
Speaker 1: haunted house. So apparently there were eight people riding around
Speaker 1: their four wheelers in South Carolina and they were heading
Speaker 1: two what they know of as a haunted abandoned house.
Speaker 1: They go in it, they find a dead body. That's
Speaker 1: pretty much like the whole story, at least what I
Speaker 1: can read as of now. But oh my god. Wait,
Speaker 1: so that was posted the other day. Now I'm seeing
Speaker 1: another art that was posted just this Tuesday, the fifth.
Speaker 1: It says authorities say that the abandoned house where the
Speaker 1: people in South Carolina found a dead body stuffed into
Speaker 1: a deep freezer has burned down after a gruesome discovery.
Speaker 1: They said that it is definitely suspicious, but a cause
Speaker 1: has not been yet determined. And that is being posted
Speaker 1: by WSOCTV dot com, which appears to be a local
Speaker 1: news in South Carolina. Okay, I'm gonna keep my eye
Speaker 1: on that. To one, I really want to know what
Speaker 1: the haunted story is behind this house. I don't know.
Speaker 1: If anyone knows, let me know. Then another thing I
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about that everybody started sending me all
Speaker 1: these articles because apparently there was a UFO that was
Speaker 1: spotted in Hawaii. But then I think it's been debunked.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's been debunked, but I did watch
Speaker 1: the news story and it kind of made me laugh.
Speaker 1: So basically the story is a couple of people in
Speaker 1: Hawaii had seen some kind of glowing, oblong blue thing
Speaker 1: in the sky above the ocean, and it was moving weird,
Speaker 1: and then it fell into the ocean and it didn't
Speaker 1: make any noise. So you know, of course people are like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I think there's like aliens in the
Speaker 1: ocean now or what is going on? And then you know,
Speaker 1: the salutes real quick on Twitter jumped on it and
Speaker 1: they're like, no, that's actually an led kite. And then
Speaker 1: somebody on Twitter did like a side by side video
Speaker 1: and it kind of looks like that. I'm not gonna lie,
Speaker 1: but it was exciting for a moment. We're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's twenty twenty one. We had a lot of alien
Speaker 1: stuff happening in twenty twenty. Maybe this is something, but
Speaker 1: I don't think it is. But Hawaii News Now did
Speaker 1: a you know, an official news story, and I loved
Speaker 1: it because they interviewed some witnesses and I'm sorry. It
Speaker 1: will never not be funny to me when people cuss
Speaker 1: on the news, and yeah, I'll just play your like
Speaker 1: a clip from the news because it's just so funny
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 2: Not long after, a woman named Mariot spotted the same
Speaker 2: thing passing over Princess Kahan. It with States and then
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, started calling.
Speaker 1: Like what I see they're all sit Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: that did kind of sound like an EVP. I look up.
Speaker 1: I said, oh shit, But I mean, I can only imagine.
Speaker 1: I can't the words that would come out of me
Speaker 1: if I saw something like that. But I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a real UFO, but what do
Speaker 1: I know. Okay, you know another fun thing that happened
Speaker 1: over the past few weeks. There is a realtor that
Speaker 1: is truly doing the Lord's work. Don't read into that
Speaker 1: too much. I'm not a Christian, but you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a turn of phrase.
Speaker 4: She is.
Speaker 1: Actually putting up signs on the houses that she's selling
Speaker 1: that say not haunted. So this woman, her name is
Speaker 1: Joy Shashinsky. She is based in Baltimore. She has the
Speaker 1: sign that in bold white lettering with a black it
Speaker 1: says not haunted, which of course is like, you know,
Speaker 1: makes people go mmm, I'm pretty sure that's what you
Speaker 1: would say if your house was haunted. But nonetheless she
Speaker 1: but you know, I started reading more about it. I
Speaker 1: read this article in the Baltimore Sun, and she says
Speaker 1: that she actually makes it a point to consult with
Speaker 1: the sellers of the properties and she finds out Okay,
Speaker 1: I can officially say it's not haunted. And I don't
Speaker 1: know what she would do if she found out it
Speaker 1: was haunted. That see, that's what she got to look
Speaker 1: out for. If you know it's a Joy Shashinsky joint
Speaker 1: and she's selling a house and you see one that
Speaker 1: says her name, but then it doesn't say not haunted,
Speaker 1: there's your answer for you. Because she only puts it
Speaker 1: out if it is indeed not haunted, but she says
Speaker 1: in this article, Yeah, people know if they're living in
Speaker 1: a haunted house, she says, and they'll tell you, and
Speaker 1: says she actually, this is now, this is probably why
Speaker 1: she does this. She actually did live in a home
Speaker 1: that was haunted at one point. She lived in a
Speaker 1: Hampton house this summer, and she would wake up at
Speaker 1: night and she would hear the doors opening and shutting
Speaker 1: without explanation. Her cat, who is the Instagram famous killer? Oh,
Speaker 1: oh god, she's got a cat with a huge following.
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with Joy Shashinski. She has a cat with
Speaker 1: eight five hundred and seventy nine followers, named the Killer
Speaker 1: Cat of Baltimore. This story just keeps getting better. So
Speaker 1: the cat who is the Instagram famous killer. The cat
Speaker 1: would make weird yowling noises anytime that he walked in
Speaker 1: the corner of the room near the front of the house.
Speaker 1: Her dog, she says, Now, again, it doesn't say anything
Speaker 1: about the dog being Instagram famous, so that's unfortunate. But
Speaker 1: her dog looked like he knew what was going on too.
Speaker 1: According to Joy, it was freaky. She said, she lives alone.
Speaker 1: She used to lock her bedroom door at night but
Speaker 1: after Killer, Oh, after Killer died in May, she says
Speaker 1: that the bumps in the night suddenly stopped. Oh how interesting.
Speaker 1: That kind of made me feel like maybe my house
Speaker 1: was haunted and the ghost left with my cat, she said,
Speaker 1: laughing as she added, I sound completely crazy. I understand
Speaker 1: that now, you don't, Joy, I am on board with
Speaker 1: all of this. She first posted the signs outside of
Speaker 1: homes on the market three or four years before her
Speaker 1: ghostly encounter, after returning from a trip to the French
Speaker 1: Quarter neighborhood in in New Orleans. There she noticed signs
Speaker 1: in front of houses for sale that identified the properties
Speaker 1: as haunted. Oh and I didn't know that, she says. Oh,
Speaker 1: I think I can do something funny for this for Halloween,
Speaker 1: she remembers thinking, So she didn't set up the signs
Speaker 1: last year, Shashinsky decided to put the signs back into
Speaker 1: rotation in twenty twenty. People need to laugh now more
Speaker 1: than ever. But she's doing this for real though, because
Speaker 1: she asked the people if it is haunted. She says,
Speaker 1: you get one person to smile and makes it all
Speaker 1: worth it. Oh, Joy Shashinsky. That was posted by the
Speaker 1: Baltimore Sun. I don't know. I just thought that was
Speaker 1: kind of a funny story and somebody that sounds like us,
Speaker 1: to be honest. A few other things. There was a
Speaker 1: episode of Ghost Adventures, and I got to hand it
Speaker 1: to Ghost Adventures, say what you want. Those fellows certainly
Speaker 1: get some great locations on their show, and they got
Speaker 1: one of the most coveted places in Ghost Adventuring. They
Speaker 1: got the Cecil Hotel, which we talk about We've talked
Speaker 1: about many times on this show. Go back and listen
Speaker 1: to the episode with our h Stavis. We talk a
Speaker 1: lot about it there. It is creepy. I've been in
Speaker 1: a one time, and I kind of don't ever want
Speaker 1: to go back into it. It seems very evil in there,
Speaker 1: to be honest, especially after watching the Ghost Adventures at
Speaker 1: the Cecil Hotel. Now I probably have said this before,
Speaker 1: but one of my favorite things about watching ghost hunting
Speaker 1: TV shows is I just like to see like the
Speaker 1: locations and you know, see the people and see what
Speaker 1: it's like inside of these places. So there's one good
Speaker 1: reason to watch it because you know, I'll remind you
Speaker 1: this is the place where multiple famous serial killer have lived,
Speaker 1: people have killed themselves, people have been murdered in there.
Speaker 1: It's here in La and then of course, like probably
Speaker 1: one of the most famous stories is Alisa Lamb, the
Speaker 1: woman that was found in the water tank and people
Speaker 1: were drinking the water said it tasted funny. Also, there's
Speaker 1: this very disturbing security footage of her in the elevator
Speaker 1: of the hotel right before she you know, passed, and
Speaker 1: so they you know, they retrace her steps and they
Speaker 1: make contacts. Now, I have not finished the full episode
Speaker 1: because I got frankly terrified, but I watched a lot
Speaker 1: of it and I enjoyed it. I thought it was
Speaker 1: kind of cool, especially because who knows if anyone will
Speaker 1: ever ghost hunt in there again. So if you want
Speaker 1: to watch it, I believe it's only on a new
Speaker 1: streaming platform called Disco every plus and so that's where
Speaker 1: I saw it, and you can get a free trial.
Speaker 1: So there's that. Speaking of subscriptions and streaming and that
Speaker 1: kind of a thing, I'm kind of making my own
Speaker 1: little rash slash ghosted streaming platform with this Patreon because
Speaker 1: I've been doing a lot of content. I've been having
Speaker 1: so much fun. You know. Subscriptions started just five dollars
Speaker 1: and it helps me so much, and I did another
Speaker 1: Haunted doll video, which I'm kind of thinking, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm like such an old lady, and I'm like, I
Speaker 1: gotta do. I gotta keep up with these kids. So
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna start doing some tiktoks as well.
Speaker 1: And people just love these videos of me talking about
Speaker 1: haunted dolls on eBay and reviewing their clothing. And I
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna additionally make like short, you know, like
Speaker 1: how long is a TikTok? How long are those TikTok's
Speaker 1: a minute? I'm probably gonna make like, you know, short
Speaker 1: little ones on TikTok at some point, once I've once
Speaker 1: my old eyes can figure out how to work that app.
Speaker 1: But until then, you can see those full length videos
Speaker 1: on Patreon and I'm going to continue to keep putting
Speaker 1: those up as well as, you know, my little ghost
Speaker 1: hunting stuff. And I also just posted an interview that
Speaker 1: I did with Valik. He might be like, wait, how
Speaker 1: do I know that name? Okay, with Alex a famous demon,
Speaker 1: but you might know who Vleck is from the movie
Speaker 1: The Noun Or The Conjuring Two. You're probably like, oh wait,
Speaker 1: the actress to play that No, no, no, no, like I
Speaker 1: interview the demon. It's just a silly video, but I
Speaker 1: had I had a fun time making it, and I
Speaker 1: put it up on social media a while ago, and
Speaker 1: then I took it down and I re edited some things,
Speaker 1: and I put that up on Patreon. So that's the
Speaker 1: only place you can see that and the only place
Speaker 1: you can hear me talking to Tammy H. Chavez, who
Speaker 1: is a wonderful paranormal investigator. She also has her own
Speaker 1: podcast called Hollyweird Paranormal and she talks about Hollywood ghosts
Speaker 1: and spooky things. And so we talk on my Patreon
Speaker 1: for a full length episode. And I also did one
Speaker 1: with my friend mister Malone, who is an automatic pen
Speaker 1: writer and has some stories of his own. So again
Speaker 1: Patreon dot com, slash Roz dress Flees and I always
Speaker 1: have bonus clips from each episode, and today's with Jinks,
Speaker 1: we talk about what it's like being a drag queen
Speaker 1: in a world wide pandemic, especially her standpoint of being
Speaker 1: a famous drag queen during all of this, and you know,
Speaker 1: pivoting and trying to figure out how to make things
Speaker 1: happen and still entertain people, and yeah, it's it's very
Speaker 1: interesting to hear from somebody who's you know, pretty iconic.
Speaker 1: I mean, she won drag Race. She's so cool, and
Speaker 1: so there's that. Okay, one more thing I should do
Speaker 1: before we get to the episode is read a story.
Speaker 1: I feel like I keep not reading stories on this podcast,
Speaker 1: and I love the stories that you guys send me,
Speaker 1: and so here's one that I thought was really spooky,
Speaker 1: and it also, you know, kind of talks about that
Speaker 1: thing of getting confirmation that somebody else is seeing what
Speaker 1: you're seeing. And always love to hear those kinds of stories.
Speaker 1: So this one comes from Jennifer, who posted this in
Speaker 1: the Facebook group called Ghosted by ros Dress a great
Speaker 1: place to leave your ghost stories. Jennifer said, Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: I wanted to post about a recent thing and it
Speaker 1: was a little validating from what I've begun to experience. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I moved into this building two months ago. It
Speaker 1: was a hotel in nineteen twenty eight, converted to apartments.
Speaker 1: I'm on the top floor. There's four stories, and my
Speaker 1: apartment is close to the back exit, which I tend
Speaker 1: to use. It's a big stairwell and one day I'm
Speaker 1: going down and I noticed a black shape out of
Speaker 1: the corner of my eye. I'm thinking, Okay, my bangs
Speaker 1: are in my eyes or something, but it really did
Speaker 1: make me pause. Speaking of pause, Jennifer, I know exactly
Speaker 1: how you feel. My bangs are always in my eyes
Speaker 1: and I always assume that it's a ghost or a
Speaker 1: shadow creature of some sort. Okay, back to the story.
Speaker 1: Another day, out there, I see it again. It's in
Speaker 1: mid air, but I figured it's a reflection off the
Speaker 1: big window out there. Another day, I see it again
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what the fuck. It's like an elongated, long,
Speaker 1: kind of wispy black shape, but it's like fleeting, and
Speaker 1: you wonder if your eyes are playing tricks on you.
Speaker 1: The fourth time, I'm taking out the trash bags and
Speaker 1: I see it and almost drop them because I definitely
Speaker 1: saw it. Then it disappeared. A couple of nights ago,
Speaker 1: a friend was over. He goes to leave, and I say,
Speaker 1: I'll walk you downstairs. He goes to the front stairwell
Speaker 1: and he says, oh, I just saw a shadow person.
Speaker 1: I said, what did you say? Because I hadn't told
Speaker 1: him anything. He tells me a shadow person of a
Speaker 1: man just passed in front of him. Towards the stairwell.
Speaker 1: He tells me he has seen shadow people before, and
Speaker 1: that's what it was. He and I have never ever
Speaker 1: had any kind of conversation about this before. I pointed
Speaker 1: him out the other stairwell at the end of the
Speaker 1: hall and I said, I guess that's what I've been seeing.
Speaker 1: He says, yeah, you've got shadow people here. My apartment
Speaker 1: is very peaceful. I've got a wall hanging of the
Speaker 1: Hamsa hand with the Evil Eye in it. Opposite to that,
Speaker 1: I've got a little altar with ganesha, crosses, candles, quartz, etc.
Speaker 1: Which face each other in my doorway. And I guess
Speaker 1: I somehow unknowingly placed a barrier. But apparently my hallway
Speaker 1: and maybe the other floors are haunted. I don't get
Speaker 1: any bad vibes, but I light incense every night anyway,
Speaker 1: which I started when I moved in. Sorry if this
Speaker 1: is super long, but it's kind of cool and I
Speaker 1: thought I would tell you guys. I'll keep you updated.
Speaker 1: Thanks for reading. If you last it. Oh, I last it.
Speaker 1: This is spooky and Jennifer, please keep us updated. And
Speaker 1: that is so cool that you have a barrier to
Speaker 1: protect you from those spooky shadow people, and thanks for sharing. Okay,
Speaker 1: it is time for me to talk to Jinks. And
Speaker 1: you know, I love having on drag queens on the show,
Speaker 1: and I know that people love when I have drag
Speaker 1: queens on this show. It's always funny because with drag queens,
Speaker 1: I pretty much only get two answers. One answer I
Speaker 1: get from drag queens is now, I don't have any stories.
Speaker 1: I don't believe in that stuffy and then they'll make
Speaker 1: some kind of like awkward joke, or I get the
Speaker 1: other option, which of course I love, which is, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I have ten thousand billion stories, which well,
Speaker 1: but to be honest though, with Jinks, she didn't say
Speaker 1: that she had a ton of stories. So what's kind
Speaker 1: of interesting and why I made this two parts is
Speaker 1: because especially as the conversation goes on longer, she is like,
Speaker 1: oh and I just thought of another one. Oh and
Speaker 1: here's another one. So Jinks has got some stories. And
Speaker 1: I just had such a great time talking with Jinks.
Speaker 1: And I hope you enjoyed this episode. So we just
Speaker 1: basically jump right into it. So here it is Jinks
Speaker 1: monsoon on with the show. Well, let's talk about ghosts.
Speaker 1: I mean, you believe in them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was raised in a family that enforced a
Speaker 2: belief in ghosts early on. I was just raised with
Speaker 2: the general idea and knowledge of ghosts.
Speaker 4: It wasn't even an option for me.
Speaker 2: And then now as an adult, as a critical thinker,
Speaker 2: it's really difficult sometimes time to like balance what you
Speaker 2: were taught as a child with what you now know
Speaker 2: to be true, and then also with what you just
Speaker 2: personally believe in. So if you take everything of who
Speaker 2: I am, like trying to use common sense and logic
Speaker 2: as my you know, guide in life, I've kind of
Speaker 2: had to navigate how I can logically justify my belief
Speaker 2: in ghosts, which I still fully have.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I believe in ghosts.
Speaker 2: I believe if you want to explain it scientifically, you know,
Speaker 2: I keep going back to the theory of relativity. Energy
Speaker 2: cannot be created or destroyed. It can only be transferred.
Speaker 2: So everything of the energy that it takes to power
Speaker 2: a human being, when that human being diseases, where does
Speaker 2: that energy go? And that's where I think we get ghosts.
Speaker 1: So what are the stories that you heard as a kid.
Speaker 2: Well, I I was raised right after I was born,
Speaker 2: I was taken back to my grandma's house, and that's
Speaker 2: where me and my mother lived off and on throughout
Speaker 2: my early childhood years.
Speaker 4: This is an Orgon, Portland, Orgon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and my grandma she had a house in one
Speaker 2: of the older neighborhoods in Portland, Orgon, which has now
Speaker 2: become you know, like the bougie, richest, whitest neighborhood. Yeah,
Speaker 2: one of those old neighborhoods. So I was raised in
Speaker 2: this really gigantic house in this really old neighborhood. And
Speaker 2: so there were lots of stories of when I was
Speaker 2: When I was a young kid, I would come into
Speaker 2: the room with a toy that my mom had never
Speaker 2: seen before, some rusty old rattle or some antique looking toy,
Speaker 2: and she'd ask where I got it, and I'd say
Speaker 2: from my friend and or I you know, when I
Speaker 2: started becoming verbal as a child, my my mom would
Speaker 2: hear me having conversations in rooms and then she'd walk
Speaker 2: into the room and there'd be no one there but me,
Speaker 2: and I was always talking about special friends that.
Speaker 4: My mother had no idea who they were.
Speaker 2: Where I was getting this idea that I was playing
Speaker 2: with these other little children in the house and.
Speaker 1: Any recollection of like talking to someone.
Speaker 4: No, I was so young at the time.
Speaker 2: I have very few memories in that house, but that
Speaker 2: house was like infamous in my family.
Speaker 4: My grandma eventually moved, but.
Speaker 2: So it was like, you know, everyone who spent any
Speaker 2: time in that house had a ghost story. My mom was,
Speaker 2: you know, telling me since I was a kid, about
Speaker 2: all that stuff with me, and my aunt, who was
Speaker 2: the only other person in the house who was like
Speaker 2: raised in that house, had very similar stories from my grandma.
Speaker 2: And then you know, there were stories of things moving
Speaker 2: or flying across the room and footsteps on the front porch,
Speaker 2: and then they'd go to the door to see if
Speaker 2: someone was coming and there was.
Speaker 4: No one there.
Speaker 2: And I don't know the facts, but I think I
Speaker 2: was told at some point that like someone who owned
Speaker 2: the house before us was a very violent man who
Speaker 2: had kidnapped a mother and child from the neighborhood and
Speaker 2: like tortured them in the basement or something, and they
Speaker 2: may have ended up dead, all three of them somehow.
Speaker 2: What I think I remember is that the person like
Speaker 2: tortured this mother and child in the basement and killed
Speaker 2: them and then was like lynched lynch mobbed on the
Speaker 2: front porch.
Speaker 4: Of his house was our house.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like, you know, attacked by the other
Speaker 2: neighbors when they found out what happened on his porch,
Speaker 2: and that's where he died. Now, see, these are all
Speaker 2: just like bits and pieces of things I overheard as
Speaker 2: a child hearing the adults talking about stuff. But that's
Speaker 2: where the hypothesis of where all the ghost energy comes from.
Speaker 1: Because you would hear them be like something happened, and
Speaker 1: then they would talk about, oh, the ghosts, like they
Speaker 1: would like would they keep that away from you?
Speaker 2: It was never like my mom told me the stories
Speaker 2: about me, but the like darker stuff I would eavesdrop on.
Speaker 2: And my mom would spend all night on the phone
Speaker 2: talking with her girlfriends about her ghost stories. My mom
Speaker 2: loved talking about ghosts, and there was there was this
Speaker 2: ongoing thing of anyone who stayed in the guest house
Speaker 2: in that house would wake up in the middle of
Speaker 2: the night with the feeling of someone like pushing down
Speaker 2: on their chest, like pushing them into the bed and
Speaker 2: feeling like the weight of an entire person on their chest.
Speaker 2: And they'd wake up feeling like they couldn't breathe and
Speaker 2: it would continue for a little bit and then they'd
Speaker 2: come out of it, and that was like a consistent story.
Speaker 2: Anyone who stayed in that house in the guest room
Speaker 2: had that same story the next day.
Speaker 1: See people talk in the paranormal world about sleep paralysis
Speaker 1: a lot, and you know, a lot of people think
Speaker 1: that it's not there's no supernatural connection to it. But
Speaker 1: then you hear about like places where you multiple people
Speaker 1: stay at the same place and they experience that kind
Speaker 1: of sensation. I mean, that's kind of strange. That to
Speaker 1: me feels like more and now it could be there's
Speaker 1: some kind of magnetic that's causing this. Yeah, who knows,
Speaker 1: but to me, that sounds paranormal to me. The paranormal judge.
Speaker 2: Well, and I've just never seen how those two things
Speaker 2: have to be mutually exclusive, you know, Like so first
Speaker 2: of all, like it would be difficult odds for multiple people,
Speaker 2: multiple different people to stay in one place and all
Speaker 2: have the same experience and have it all be sleep paralysis.
Speaker 2: And then you bring in like scientific like maybe there's
Speaker 2: magnetic fields or some sort of disturbance in that area
Speaker 2: caused by outside forces or whatever. But it's like how
Speaker 2: do we know that ghosts and those scientific explanations aren't
Speaker 2: somehow all connected in one thing and being like a
Speaker 2: paranormal nerd and a sci fi nerd. It's like if
Speaker 2: you watch Doctor Who, you know, like ghosts can be
Speaker 2: real and they can be explained by science, you know,
Speaker 2: like we just only perceive them and understand them to
Speaker 2: the best of our ability.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, that's the thing with ghosts. It's like there's
Speaker 1: so many you know, we're dealing with a lot of
Speaker 1: different subjects in school here, because we're talking about history,
Speaker 1: we're talking about science, we're talking about religion. Like there's
Speaker 1: so many things that go into it. And again, like
Speaker 1: you said, I don't think it has to be mutually
Speaker 1: one thing or the other. It kind of crosses a
Speaker 1: lot of lines. Which makes me think about witchcraft, which
Speaker 1: I know you have talked about practicing. Is that something
Speaker 1: that you think is supernatural? Because I strugg I sometimes
Speaker 1: I talk to people about witchcraft and I always wonder,
Speaker 1: to me, it's not. I think. I think that society
Speaker 1: has given it this kind of after generations and generations
Speaker 1: of stigmatizing or whatever. We all know the stories, but like, uh,
Speaker 1: do you find there to be supernatural elements to.
Speaker 2: It, you know, with the way that I understand and
Speaker 2: practice witchcraft, I wouldn't call it supernw natural.
Speaker 4: I'd call it like ultra natural.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like it's less about things that you
Speaker 2: can't see and more about more about thinking about the
Speaker 2: things you can see, you know, like rather than rather
Speaker 2: than putting your faith in invisible deities, you're putting your
Speaker 2: faith in the earth and the nature that you're a
Speaker 2: part of, you know, right, and and kind of I
Speaker 2: mean like there are of course references to multiple invisible deities.
Speaker 4: But in witchcraft.
Speaker 2: But for me, it's always been about harnessing and focusing
Speaker 2: your own energy and harnessing and focusing the energy around you,
Speaker 2: you know, and of course in lots of my own practice,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I've always thought of it kind of like
Speaker 2: I guess, kind of like magical placebos, if that makes
Speaker 2: any sense. You know, When I like collect crystals and
Speaker 2: put them on my altar, it's less about me thinking
Speaker 2: that these crystals are, you know, shooting energy into me,
Speaker 2: and more about thinking that when I look at these crystals,
Speaker 2: I'm reminded of the positive energy they're said to radiate.
Speaker 2: And then that like puts it in my mind and
Speaker 2: creates it for myself. When I'm invoking Hecatae or Lilith
Speaker 2: or Artemis or any goddess or or which you know,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm thinking about what that what that name, and
Speaker 2: what that icon represents, and like, you know, in in
Speaker 2: viewing myself with the power, I always uh, I always
Speaker 2: say that, like, well, first of all, like witchcraft being
Speaker 2: stigmatized the way it has been was just another form
Speaker 2: of patriarchal oppression for so long, you know, and so
Speaker 2: there's all kinds of conditioning to believe that which craft
Speaker 2: is one thing or the other. But most witches I
Speaker 2: know today who practice like modern day practical witchcraft just
Speaker 2: say it's about like finding a way to live within
Speaker 2: the world that we live in in a way that
Speaker 2: makes you feel most powerful, empowered and effective.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: It's all about it's all about how you treat yourself
Speaker 2: and how you conduct yourself. It's it's like a philosophy
Speaker 2: for me, more than a religion or or a faith,
Speaker 2: you know, It's more like my worldview.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. I think that I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm definitely crystal curious, Crystal light if you will. I'm
Speaker 1: not like I have a couple of crystal but that
Speaker 1: what you were talking about with that reminder or you
Speaker 1: know that, I'm very into that. I have many things
Speaker 1: that I keep around me. I have, I mean, maybe
Speaker 1: I should not who but I have an old, moldy
Speaker 1: drag boob that belonged to a drag legend that I
Speaker 1: keep with me that was given to me as a gift.
Speaker 1: And it's like a little like I just.
Speaker 6: Think about all the bars and the theaters and all
Speaker 6: the places that it's been and I just like I
Speaker 6: hold on to it and and I guess I kind
Speaker 6: of do that same thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean for me, it's like I like believing
Speaker 2: that courts crystals amplify energy, and I like believing that amethyst,
Speaker 2: you know, cleanses our ego.
Speaker 4: Like, but I also as it's.
Speaker 1: Also very beautiful to look at.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and they're gorgeous. You know.
Speaker 2: I always collected crystals as a child because I thought
Speaker 2: they would give me magic powers, you know, And it
Speaker 2: turns out they do. It's just much less like lightning
Speaker 2: coming out of your fingertips like you want to believe
Speaker 2: as a child. But it's like I choose to, you know,
Speaker 2: to learn about crystals and to learn about like Practical
Speaker 2: Magic starring Sandra Bullock and Nicole Given. I choose to
Speaker 2: learn about these things and choose to believe in them,
Speaker 2: but I also have to rationalize it as a as
Speaker 2: a realist, and that's when I come up with the
Speaker 2: placebo theory, you know, where it's like anything that has
Speaker 2: significance to you can be powerful. It's the power that
Speaker 2: you put into it and the power that you received
Speaker 2: from it that is significant. So like on my altar
Speaker 2: there's a big bowl of crystals, but there's also gifts
Speaker 2: I've been.
Speaker 4: Given from people.
Speaker 2: I have a little like I have a beetle in
Speaker 2: clear resin that was given to me from Uh Devin
Speaker 2: by Devin Green.
Speaker 4: And I have a very similar thing.
Speaker 2: I think it's a bumblebee and clear resin that was
Speaker 2: given to me by Katya. And it's funny those two
Speaker 2: people are kind of similar in the world, and they
Speaker 2: both gift you with bugs covered in resins, and I
Speaker 2: have I have a photo of my grandmother over my
Speaker 2: altar with a ring that I inherited from her. I
Speaker 2: have a friend who passed away very early in life,
Speaker 2: and they had their ashes put into class pendants and
Speaker 2: I have that on my altar.
Speaker 4: So I have a lot of significant.
Speaker 2: You know, artifacts from throughout my life and from significant
Speaker 2: people in my life that I put on my altar.
Speaker 2: And to me, they're radiating the energy because every time
Speaker 2: I look over there, I'm reminded of everything that's there
Speaker 2: and all the all the love that has been passed
Speaker 2: on to me from significant people in my life.
Speaker 1: That's beautiful. I love that. Now do you when you
Speaker 1: are like on the road, do you bring crystals with
Speaker 1: you or any of.
Speaker 4: Those as I do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a travel bundle of crystals. I pack
Speaker 2: a little travel pouch and I did take this one
Speaker 2: crystal I've had since I was a child with me
Speaker 2: for drag Race and it was on my makeup station.
Speaker 2: And when I had my Tic Tac lunch with Bru Paul,
Speaker 2: I asked RW to hold my crystal and put some
Speaker 2: positive energy into it for me, and she did a
Speaker 2: very funny bit where she was like holding it and
Speaker 2: then started handing it to me and then said, wait,
Speaker 2: I'm not done, and took it back and like whispered
Speaker 2: something into it. I'll never know what she whispered. It
Speaker 2: could have been like, get me the fuck out, But
Speaker 2: I call that my drag positivity Crystal. I've had many
Speaker 2: living legends hold that crystal and put in some positive
Speaker 2: thoughts for me.
Speaker 4: And it was come this.
Speaker 2: This was completely cut from from my season of Drag Race,
Speaker 2: and I was, you know, saying one day to my
Speaker 2: best friend Kenny, like, oh, I'm so sad I cut
Speaker 2: my drag positivity.
Speaker 4: Crystal from my storyline.
Speaker 2: And he said, well, I mean, at that point, they
Speaker 2: they had so much to work with. They weren't also
Speaker 2: going to be able to work in your crystal obsession
Speaker 2: and your witchcraft, in with the with the narcolepsy and
Speaker 2: right with everything you're crush on Ivy. It's like eventually
Speaker 2: they had to say, Okay, she's got enough.
Speaker 4: Quirks.
Speaker 1: So basically what you're saying is, uh uh, you want
Speaker 1: drag Race because you're of witchcraft. Okay, gotta yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not saying I I'm not saying I
Speaker 2: didn't win in.
Speaker 4: Drag Race because of witchcraft. At this point, however, I
Speaker 4: want it. I'll take it.
Speaker 1: I am you deserve it.
Speaker 2: I don't want to look a gift horse in the mouth.
Speaker 2: You know, well, I you know this.
Speaker 1: Now here I go again like thinking, like I think
Speaker 1: I'm like a witch, but I just don't know what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. But because I think and I hope
Speaker 1: this is an offensive to witches. But I think that
Speaker 1: in like hocus Pocus, the infamac scene that made so
Speaker 1: many of us drag queens, where they go and they
Speaker 1: perform at the little social dance gathering, but the spell
Speaker 1: on you that scene I think about in some of
Speaker 1: the best moments I've had on stage are these moments
Speaker 1: where I'm aut a place where people are kind of like,
Speaker 1: what is this person, I'm not really so sure about this,
Speaker 1: and then going on stage and like putting a spell
Speaker 1: on an audience and making them be like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: on board that now. I don't know if it actually
Speaker 1: is putting a spell on people, but I've also been
Speaker 1: in the audience for people doing that to me.
Speaker 4: And you've felt like there was a spell being put
Speaker 4: on you.
Speaker 1: Exactly, yeah, and so, and I think that there's something
Speaker 1: metaphysical to that.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I so, like, I've been obsessed with witches since I
Speaker 2: was a child. I think I became a drag queen
Speaker 2: because to me, that was a way to become a witch,
Speaker 2: you know, it was a way to step into this
Speaker 2: persona I had always seen myself as, and I.
Speaker 4: Wouldn't say that.
Speaker 2: Like, you know, witchcraft has never really been a big
Speaker 2: part of the Jinx Monsoon persona until quite recently when
Speaker 2: I started practice practicing it much more in my personal life.
Speaker 2: It just kind of like sneaks its way into my
Speaker 2: work too, like anything else. You know, But I think
Speaker 2: for so long because I was conditioned to believe that
Speaker 2: a witch is this, and a witch does this, and
Speaker 2: this is how witches behave from the cartoony to the
Speaker 2: you know, like to the dungeons and dragons playing, you know,
Speaker 2: goat's blood drinking, you know, goth teenagers we were warned
Speaker 2: about in high school. You know, I for so long
Speaker 2: thought that witchcraft had to look a certain way, and
Speaker 2: then it turns out witchcraft is like like I said,
Speaker 2: it's kind of like a philosophy.
Speaker 4: It's like a worldview.
Speaker 2: It's something you choose to study, you choose to practice,
Speaker 2: and choose to self identify as. And it is much
Speaker 2: less stylized than than what our pop culture and media
Speaker 2: have taught us to believe. You know like, and what
Speaker 2: I have to say is, since, like you know, practicing
Speaker 2: witchcraft in my own life and meeting a lot of
Speaker 2: other really wonderful and influential witches, I've found that witches
Speaker 2: have just a great sense of humor about themselves. I
Speaker 2: haven't had I always like when I've done like which
Speaker 2: podcasts or had lunch with you know, influential witches, I'm
Speaker 2: always nervous that I'm gonna like they're going to be like,
Speaker 2: you're not really a witch, like or they're gonna they're
Speaker 2: going to be offended by something I say. And you know,
Speaker 2: I'm such an open book. I just like I'll tell
Speaker 2: you everything about me within the first ten minutes of
Speaker 2: knowing me. And what I've found is like, which is
Speaker 2: just have a really good sense of humor about it,
Speaker 2: Like they typically don't take themselves too seriously because they're
Speaker 2: so used to like witch stereotypes and they're just they're
Speaker 2: just regular people who practice witchcraft.
Speaker 1: But I'm sure that there's just like with drag queens,
Speaker 1: like once in a while you meet ones that are like,
Speaker 1: oh honey, you are not. So I'm sure that there's
Speaker 1: witches that are out there that are like girl. You
Speaker 1: do not have the hat. You do not have the roofs.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I mean.
Speaker 1: Do you want to have a hat? It has to
Speaker 1: be six feet tall. That's how big your hat's got
Speaker 1: to be.
Speaker 2: They all kinds, and you know you've totally met those
Speaker 2: people out in the world. If you've ever been to
Speaker 2: San Francisco once, you know you've come across a crystal
Speaker 2: shop where there where there's a there's a hardcore witch, uh.
Speaker 4: A purist there. If you're not wearing if you're not wearing.
Speaker 5: Woven wool afghan, I'm not crab that you made on
Speaker 5: a blood moon with your own placential sack, you know,
Speaker 5: Like I don't know, but like yeah, I mean there's
Speaker 5: there's all degrees. It's just like there's drag queens who
Speaker 5: think they're doing it right and everyone else is doing
Speaker 5: it wrong.
Speaker 4: Yeah, same goes for witches.
Speaker 1: Well, how did you get into it?
Speaker 5: Who?
Speaker 1: Like, uh, was it from your curiosity about witches?
Speaker 4: Yeah? It was kind of like I don't really remember when.
Speaker 2: I I mean, I have literally been collecting crystal since
Speaker 2: I was a child, and my belief as a child
Speaker 2: was one day I will find a magic crystal that
Speaker 2: will give me magic powers. And then my aunt, my mother,
Speaker 2: and my grandma, who are the three women who raised
Speaker 2: me since childhood, you know, since birth. They were essentially
Speaker 2: all witches, but they were also you know, my grandma
Speaker 2: practiced Catholicism.
Speaker 4: My mom was really into Catholicism.
Speaker 2: My aunt studied all religions of the world and kind
Speaker 2: of made up her own religion. But like, you know,
Speaker 2: all of our rituals and practices were based in Catholicism,
Speaker 2: but the ones that my family actually practiced were the
Speaker 2: most witchy, like the most like borrowed from paganism of
Speaker 2: the Catholic rituals, you know.
Speaker 4: And my mom.
Speaker 2: One of my favorite stories of my mom is her
Speaker 2: telling me because I told her I was playing Dungeons
Speaker 2: and Dragons, get this, Dungeons and Dragons live action role
Speaker 2: playing with my Mormon friends in middle school.
Speaker 4: That was me.
Speaker 1: That's interesting because at that time there was definitely a
Speaker 1: time when that was like the devil, Like, yeah, playing
Speaker 1: Dungeons and Dragons was evil, and so it's interesting that
Speaker 1: like Mormons.
Speaker 2: I know, I mean, like they were very liberal Mormons,
Speaker 2: but when I'm saying we weren't playing Dungeons and Dragons,
Speaker 2: where we were like, you know, trying.
Speaker 4: We were just live action. It was make believe.
Speaker 2: It was like make believe for kids too old to
Speaker 2: be playing wizards and witches, you know. But but I
Speaker 2: told my mom this, and she got very freaked out.
Speaker 2: My mom, who's told me the prophecies of the apocalypse
Speaker 2: since I was a child, and told me what to
Speaker 2: watch out for, and you know, like it's better to
Speaker 2: die starving than to die with the mark of the beast.
Speaker 4: You know, that kind of stuff you tell a five year.
Speaker 1: Old bedtime story.
Speaker 2: She warned me about playing dungeons and dragons and how
Speaker 2: it leads to dark things and stuff. And then we
Speaker 2: stopped at a cemetery so that she could take some
Speaker 2: scrapings off a gravestone so she could sleep with it
Speaker 2: under her pillow and possibly win the lottery. Like that's
Speaker 2: the environment I was raised in, where I was warned
Speaker 2: about witchcraft by women who were totally practicing witchcraft but
Speaker 2: would never.
Speaker 4: Have called it that. So I think in lots of ways,
Speaker 4: you know, lots of ways.
Speaker 2: If you are someone who has a routine and a
Speaker 2: ritual that you adhere to, like your drag makeup, putting
Speaker 2: on your drag makeup every time you get into drag
Speaker 2: is a form of a magical ritual. And all that
Speaker 2: it takes to turn that into like you know, witchcraft,
Speaker 2: is to put that kind of energy into it, you know,
Speaker 2: like make it a sacred event for yourself, make it
Speaker 2: a magical ritual for yourself, And that's all it really takes.
Speaker 2: I think of myself as practicing witchcraft whenever I cook
Speaker 2: a big meal, because there's so much like effort and
Speaker 2: toil that I put into it, and I think that
Speaker 2: the magic comes out of the toil, you know. And
Speaker 2: and when I'm like when I'm doing my makeup or
Speaker 2: when I'm on stage and I'm like fully present in
Speaker 2: the song that I'm singing and I'm having that real
Speaker 2: authentic connection with the audience where like where we're having
Speaker 2: a conversation, you know, where we're fully engaged with each
Speaker 2: other and there's nothing else on our minds except the
Speaker 2: song that I am singing right now, in the song
Speaker 2: they are listening to. To me, that's that's practicing witchcraft.
Speaker 2: It's just you know, you've got to decide to put
Speaker 2: that kind of energy into it and to take that
Speaker 2: kind of inspiration from it, and and any ritual you
Speaker 2: do can become magic.
Speaker 1: That's great. Well, do you have any other ghost stories?
Speaker 4: Oh? Let me think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to think of the You know what's
Speaker 2: so funny is since since my grandma moved out of
Speaker 2: that haunted house, a lot of the like ghost story.
Speaker 2: It's so I've always been very frustrated that, you know,
Speaker 2: I was so young in that house that I don't
Speaker 2: really have any memories of the ghost experiences myself. I've
Speaker 2: just heard about them from my family, and I haven't
Speaker 2: experienced too much in my you know, adult life, other
Speaker 2: than there's this one time I am so certain and
Speaker 2: it's hard to tell because I was, you know, blackout drunk.
Speaker 1: I do have a theory that that makes you your
Speaker 1: your inhibitions are lowered. You're not worrying about all the
Speaker 1: human bullshit that we worry about that keeps us blocked
Speaker 1: from the spiritual realm.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I mean.
Speaker 2: I do think, you know, I do think when our
Speaker 2: inhibitions are lowered, when we're like more, when we have
Speaker 2: less of our defenses up, when we have less of
Speaker 2: our like cold heart laws blocking the way, we're more
Speaker 2: receptive to things. But there was this time, and no
Speaker 2: one was you know, no one was with me too.
Speaker 2: I should give a caveat that. I'm a year and
Speaker 2: a half sober from booze at this.
Speaker 4: Point, so.
Speaker 1: I'm sober too.
Speaker 4: I love the congratulations.
Speaker 2: Yeah, before I tell this story of me being a
Speaker 2: wretched drunk, but I was out one night.
Speaker 4: This was in Seattle. This was pre drag race.
Speaker 2: This was in my like party drag days when I
Speaker 2: was flat broke and was scraping by just going from
Speaker 2: gig to gig shortly after college. And I had this
Speaker 2: habit of not eating very much on a day that
Speaker 2: I had a show so that when the show's over
Speaker 2: and I start drinking, I can get drunk a lot.
Speaker 1: Fast, I know.
Speaker 4: So I had the day of all I ate. That
Speaker 4: day was watermelon. It was in the middle of the summer.
Speaker 2: And I had been out all night, you know, did
Speaker 2: a gig and then got wasted and came home alone.
Speaker 2: And I was on my hands and knees at one
Speaker 2: point puking my guts out in my living room, and
Speaker 2: I just remember that there was a person with me,
Speaker 2: rubbing my back and telling me to get it all
Speaker 2: out and that I can clean it up in the
Speaker 2: morning and that everything's going to be okay as long
Speaker 2: as I get all of the poison out of me
Speaker 2: right now and then go to sleep, you know, And
Speaker 2: I like, you know, I've had plenty of blackout moments
Speaker 2: where I remember something happening that didn't actually happen, but
Speaker 2: you can't tell me, like, you can't convince me that
Speaker 2: there wasn't. I've sometimes referred to it as an angel
Speaker 2: who came to make sure that I puked everything up
Speaker 2: before I got into bed and possibly, you know, puked
Speaker 2: and drowned in my sleep. Personally, it's so dark, but
Speaker 2: that's how I feel about it, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, we all, I think, have spirit GUIDs, guardian angels,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to look at it, and that very
Speaker 1: well could be okay. Well, that concludes part one of
Speaker 1: my conversation with Jinks. Monsoon and next week we're going
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