1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 2: Single best idea, and it could have gone any number 3 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 2: of different ways. Yesterday we didn't do when I was 4 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 2: over at the Plaza Hotel, we did not get single 5 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: best idea done. If we had, we would have led 6 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 2: with a conversation with Admiral Mullen. Michael Mullen was piercing 7 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: in a lengthy conversation yesterday the former Chairman Joint Chief's 8 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: Staff on all sorts of Pentagon issues. We'll talk about 9 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: that with Ethan Browner in a moment today. Wendy Schiller 10 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: where this was brown University. She starts her fall semester there. 11 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:51,840 Speaker 2: And international relations. Wendy Schiller on the state of European 12 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 2: politics and America. 13 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: I think that a lot of these leaders are still 14 00:00:55,680 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: somewhat stunned that America reelected Donald Trump. From the perspective, 15 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: I think that they, you know, they come from parliamentary systems, 16 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: as you well know, Tom, and in parliamentary systems, many 17 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: of those leaders have what we would call absolute power. 18 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: Right they have a party that elects them from the 19 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: legislative branch, and there all their ministers run things, and 20 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: that you know, the programs President proposes, you know, have 21 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: to go through Congress and be compromised with not In 22 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: parliamentary systems, the government owns the policy making outright. So 23 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: I don't think they're at all surprised that the executive 24 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: branch has become so powerful in American politics. I think 25 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: their surprise institutionally were set up so differently. How did 26 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: the president amass so much power over his own party 27 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: when they're not elected electrially connected the way all across. 28 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 2: Europe bruns It as simple as that. If you say, 29 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 2: why is Wendy Schiller famous within international relations? That is 30 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: what she's gifted at. Her textbooks are hugely acclaimed for 31 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 2: explaining the complexities of international relations simplistically. That was a 32 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: perfect DISCUSSI of something we don't understand, we take for 33 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 2: granted every day, which is the Madisonian American system. And 34 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 2: she says, guess what, they're all on a parliamentary system 35 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 2: and they so it's sort of like Game of Thrones 36 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 2: gone bad. But anyways, that was brilliant for Professor Schiller. 37 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 2: What a joy to have Ethan Bronner in our studios today. 38 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 2: Definitive at The New York Times, The Israeli Bureau chief 39 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: for Bloomberg Ethan Bronner, on the Senate, the House in 40 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 2: Washington and Israel. 41 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 3: It's shattering, and there is a concern, especially the Democratic side, 42 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 3: that it has lost its support for Israel. It has 43 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 3: only the republic ends of the Democrats that I forget 44 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 3: which what number, but a surprising number of them voted 45 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 3: to pose an impose an arms embargo for offensive arms 46 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 3: toward Gaza, and that's they're quite worried about that. 47 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 2: I got to get this question in Pul's two important 48 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 2: SI from Long Island emails in would President Harris do 49 00:02:58,560 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: anything different? 50 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 3: I think she would have done many things differently. I 51 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 3: don't think she would have unleashed Israel. 52 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: Now. 53 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 3: I think the more interesting question is would Israel have 54 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 3: done what it wanted to do anyway? And I think 55 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 3: it's a decent possibility that it would have been nearly 56 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 3: as militarily aggressive as it has been because it came 57 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 3: to the conclusion that it had no choice. Whether or 58 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 3: not you agree with that, but I'm certain that President 59 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 3: President Kamala Harris would have acted very differently towards this government. 60 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 2: Yes, Ethan Bronner in our studios in New York, riveting 61 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: here on the Mess. It's a very sophisticated word, but 62 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: I'll say it the Mess in Israel, on your podcast 63 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 2: on Apple and Spotify around the world, on YouTube podcasts 64 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: as well. It's single best idea