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Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

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Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nation.

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Speaker 3: Radio and welcome to the Drive.

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Speaker 4: It is a Chile victory Monday here in Pittsburgh. It

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Speaker 4: was a Chili Day Sunday in Cincinnati. But well, it

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Speaker 4: just warmed your heart to the concols to see the

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Speaker 4: Escalooser fire up at the beginning of the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 5: I had someboddies over at the williame and taking pictures.

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Speaker 5: Seven to me say, this thing is rolling already. I mean,

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Speaker 5: the hearts of Bengals fans are turned to stone the Grinch.

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Speaker 4: I mean they might have frozen a little bit, but

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Speaker 4: there was plenty of action going back and forth in

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Speaker 4: that game. There's Matt Williams and I'm Dale LOLLI by

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Speaker 4: the way, this is the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 4: But Matt so much done. Peel from that game yesterday

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Speaker 4: in Cincinnati at the pay Corpse Stadium, Russell Wilson was fabulous, fabulous. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: he was great, fantastic, however you want. He actually outplayed

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Speaker 4: Joe Burrow to a large degree.

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Speaker 5: I played super impressed with both Burrough.

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Speaker 4: Played very good, yes, but he did throw an interception, yep,

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Speaker 4: and his was a legit interception.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't that made me great, Let's get out of

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Speaker 5: the way. How is that not called? I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I understand, I do think Pickens was falling,

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Speaker 5: but then you helped them by grabbing his helmet, not

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Speaker 5: even like nudge them shoulder pad or whatever him to

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Speaker 5: the ground into the head. Illegal use of hands of

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Speaker 5: the head, right, I mean, I thought, man, they're gonna

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Speaker 5: lose this game because of that. And frankly, the teams

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Speaker 5: from the last five years or so would have done so.

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Speaker 4: They would have they got to score like that earlier

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Speaker 4: in the game it was done and had to throw.

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Speaker 5: I mean, they didn't have to throw, they chose to throw.

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Speaker 5: They threw a high percentage of the time in the

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Speaker 5: first half, I'm sure by design. But then when you're

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Speaker 5: down seven nothing before you know it, maybe even more

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Speaker 5: and you could you know, I mean part of it

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Speaker 5: to Bengals defense is really really bad. But I thought

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Speaker 5: Wilson was tremendous.

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Speaker 3: Tremendous.

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Speaker 4: They answered every time that the Bengals would score, including

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Speaker 4: that one. Yeah, the Steelers answered with the score of

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Speaker 4: their own and then finally took the lead in the

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Speaker 4: at the end of the first half and basically just

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Speaker 4: kind of continue to expand upon that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, and then I thought the pass rush took

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Speaker 5: over in the second half to some degree. When I

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Speaker 5: mean they're a pass eavy team to begin with, defense

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Speaker 5: made plays. We knew they were going to allow yardage

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Speaker 5: and points. I mean, you just knew that. And again Burrow,

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Speaker 5: Chase Higgins, Chase Brown, I mean, those guys are playmakers.

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Speaker 5: Those guys are really really good. I think it's a

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Speaker 5: top three type offense. But I think the overriding thing

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Speaker 5: is now you can play that style a game. You know,

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Speaker 5: if you want to play thirteen nine against the Ravens

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Speaker 5: and hand you over and over and over and play

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Speaker 5: with big people and battle it out and be the

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Speaker 5: more physical team against the Chargers in round one or whatever, Okay,

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Speaker 5: we can play that style fight, you know. I mean

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Speaker 5: there's been a lot of good Steeler teams that can't

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Speaker 5: play every style of fight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this one can, this one can.

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Speaker 4: And you know that's I'm just looking at comments on stuff,

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Speaker 4: and you know, well, the defense.

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Speaker 3: Had an awful day.

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Speaker 4: I don't think guys get paid two and your defense

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Speaker 4: took the ball away three times, your sack Burrow four times,

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Speaker 4: you hit him eleven times. Yeah, yeah, I thought the

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Speaker 5: Absolutely. I thought, with all respect to Wilson and Burrow,

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Speaker 5: who were awesome, I thought Cam Hayward is the best

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Speaker 4: If you look back at their big runs, including that

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Speaker 5: He was unbelievable in this.

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Speaker 3: When he was out there, they didn't run the football.

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Speaker 5: They didn't run the football at all. And his pass

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Speaker 5: he had a couple of plays for he's chasing the football.

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Speaker 5: That's ridiculous. I was just on with Mark Madden and

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Speaker 5: in a different show I said the exact same thing.

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Speaker 5: I firmly believe he is the best player in the

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Speaker 3: He's got eight of them. He's got eight of them,

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Speaker 5: Most cornerbacks don't have right that they get thrown at

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Speaker 5: time and time again. And I believe TJ. Watt is

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Speaker 5: the best at causing fumbles in the whole league. And

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Speaker 5: it's trickling down to all their teammates too. You know,

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Speaker 5: everyone else around them is getting really, really good at

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Speaker 3: Yeah, huge plays.

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Speaker 4: So Watt now has five forced fumbles this season, which

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Speaker 4: leads the league. He has thirty two since he came

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Speaker 4: to your point, it has trickled down. He and Herbig

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Speaker 5: I didn't know if you do that. I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: You know, he's a part time player over the course

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Speaker 3: Apparently he's allowed to get a jump start on that.

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Speaker 5: Ye yeah, time and time again, and you're allowed to

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Speaker 5: go early. Okay. I was on a show with Wolf

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Speaker 5: that wouldn't have been bad. What is going on with

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Speaker 3: I don't get.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they get away with it constantly, and you know,

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Speaker 5: I mean some of it who are just not gonna

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Speaker 5: But come on, man, Yeah he's bad.

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Speaker 3: It is bad.

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Speaker 5: And they still lost to herbig consistently in the past game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but just a I thought it was a great

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Speaker 4: don't get from the Bengals perspective, just just keep dumping

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Speaker 5: All right, Right, over the middle field over and over

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Speaker 5: and over. We're gonna do it until you stop it.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes you get them either with their just back, you know,

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Speaker 3: It was like stealing.

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Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 5: And back to Wilson, he did so many good things.

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Speaker 5: And I'm not privy to what goes on obviously behind

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Speaker 4: They're going to the line of scrimmage with fifteen to

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Speaker 3: Guys, all right, you go over. He just it was

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Speaker 5: Yeah, absolutely, and the result we saw the result, but

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Speaker 5: the result that people don't always think about was he

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Speaker 5: gets you out of the bad plays. You know, like,

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Speaker 5: no one's a perfect play caller. You don't know what

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Speaker 5: out of that. You know where fields Picket, Rudolph, all

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Speaker 4: I thought the perfect example of that. The Steelers are

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Speaker 4: It hit him on a like a little skinny post. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that might be the hardest football I've ever seen thrown.

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Speaker 3: I mean he just gunned that.

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Speaker 5: Going there before the snap obviously, the safety, all the

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Speaker 5: on a slant with an inbreaking route against outside leverage.

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Speaker 4: That bar before he even came out of his break. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it was just like right there and again stealing. But

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Speaker 5: He's throwing with velocity. I know we're gonna have Rob

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Speaker 5: I have said this before too. But the word Rob

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Speaker 5: is crisp. I mean, even at camp, he would throw

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Speaker 5: a touchdown pass. He's not high five, he's looking the sideline.

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Speaker 5: What's the next play? I mean, everything's crisp. It's now

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Speaker 5: I'm using every second efficiently, you know, and same thing,

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Speaker 5: With five seconds left in the playclock, Boom, gonna switch

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Speaker 5: to a run against this bubble nausey for eight you know,

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Speaker 5: I mean it's getting out of bad stuff.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought, Mike when Mike Tomlin said, Hey, this

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Speaker 4: is AFC North football, We're not playing checkers, We're playing.

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Speaker 3: Chess, And that was chess. There was a lot of

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Speaker 4: Because Loui an Arumo, despite not having any talent on

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Speaker 4: that Cincinnati defense, that's a tough watch man. I still

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Speaker 4: think he's a good defensive coordinator. He throws a lot

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Speaker 4: of different stuff at you. I don't think he'll be

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Speaker 3: I don't think either.

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Speaker 5: Someone else is gonna hire him up. Yeah, exactly. And hey,

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Speaker 5: The interception was a goofy player.

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Speaker 4: So they had one other pass that they broke up. Okay,

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Speaker 3: If he goes two inches farther, it's it's oh he

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Speaker 5: That wasn't his O line breaking down, you know, right

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Speaker 5: Pickings did good and bad. I thought the O line

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they opened up holes. You know, Nausey was running hard.

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Speaker 4: Yeh, the best going at the reason Now he did

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Speaker 5: Oh was that him? That was louder Milk.

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Speaker 3: Okay, louder Milk blocked to the right.

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Speaker 5: We'll be talking about how smart Danny Smith is. Right

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Speaker 3: They had seven scoring drives in the game.

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Speaker 5: Again, we kept calling him even Steven. I mean, the

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Speaker 5: No, not at all. I mean Higgins isn't going to

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and so you're not going to tie up let's

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Speaker 5: Many picks exactly exactly. It's a problem. I mean it's

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Speaker 5: Absolutely tough place to win.

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Speaker 4: Justin Miller hot Line by Steelers play by play announcer

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Speaker 4: Rob King and published author.

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Speaker 3: Now Rob King, so congratulations, the book is out.

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Speaker 4: You want to tell people before we tell tell people

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Speaker 4: about the book a little bit here.

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Speaker 1: So it's a it is a uh, the first book

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Speaker 1: of the Fantasy trilogy. It's seemed largely at middle grade students.

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Speaker 1: Although everybody that's.

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Speaker 3: So it's right up our alley.

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Speaker 5: So maybe I can read it. I don't understand right,

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Speaker 5: So it's it's do you have to dumb it down

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Speaker 5: for wolf yees?

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Speaker 4: It have lots of pictures, come on, there are or illustrated.

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Speaker 5: Very yeah.

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Speaker 1: She did the cover. Two. She's a very talent artist.

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Speaker 1: It's called The Door in the Stone. It can be

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Speaker 1: purchased on Amazon. Rob King the Door in the Stone.

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Speaker 1: Wonderful holiday gift idea for all those young readers out there.

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Speaker 1: But you know, so, you know, when I was a kid,

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Speaker 1: I was always a big reader. We're not a big

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Speaker 1: TV family. Go read a book or go play outside,

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Speaker 1: you know, that was that was our options. So as

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Speaker 1: a kid I always read just nothing but like hardy

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Speaker 1: boy books and whatever sports biography I could find. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I read, you know, I wore out the library. I

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Speaker 1: was down to like rock seriously, like Rocky Colavito, Jim

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Speaker 1: Jensen uh, you know people like that that are barely

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Speaker 1: remembered by by sports people. And then around that middle grade,

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Speaker 1: you know age, it was uh you know the Lion,

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Speaker 1: the Witch and the Wardrobe and all those books, you know,

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Speaker 1: the Narnie of books and all that stuff, and it

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Speaker 1: really opened up, uh, the kind of reading I was.

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Speaker 1: I went on to be an English literature major in

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Speaker 1: college and still loved to read. So those books hold

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Speaker 1: a special part in my heart, which is why I

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Speaker 1: wrote for that age group. Although again, you know, if

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Speaker 1: you're a if you're a grown up and you go

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Speaker 1: back and read those Narnia books, they're still very readable.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's why I wrote them for that age

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Speaker 1: and and so hopefully people will read them and enjoy him.

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Speaker 1: And uh, yeah, thanks guys, I appreciate it's been It's

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Speaker 1: been a lot of fun.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Oh yeah, thank you. Absolutely. So check that out again.

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Speaker 4: That's Rob king the author, and you can you can

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Speaker 4: get that just in time for Christmas. Kingly speaking of

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Speaker 4: lots of fun, Yeah, yes, you had to have a

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Speaker 4: lot of fun calling that game yesterday because there was

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Speaker 4: all kinds of action went on a little bit up and.

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Speaker 1: Down the field, absolute flast I remember looking up at

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Speaker 1: the clock. I think it's like seven minutes left in

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Speaker 1: the second quarter or whatever. It was twenty one twenty one.

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh my goodness. You know, I was

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Speaker 1: joking with Walter and Commercial and I said, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: had a bit of like a fake play by play boys.

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Speaker 1: I said, you know, all right, well sixty three to

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Speaker 1: sixty three, you know, thirty five seconds left to this one.

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Speaker 1: And he goes, what wait, wait did I miss something?

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Speaker 1: Just bessing around, man, But you know, it was it

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Speaker 1: was an incredible pace and very heartening to see the

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Speaker 1: Steelers be able to win a game that I don't

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Speaker 1: think over the last what four or five years, frankly

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Speaker 1: they would be capable of winning. And so you know, again,

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Speaker 1: was this the Kansas City Chiefs? Is that the Buffalo Bills? No,

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Speaker 1: but I think it's a very dangerous team. I think

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Speaker 1: it's going to be a team that'll be back next year.

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Speaker 1: They've had some health problems. I think that they have

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Speaker 1: a specific need or two that can get them right

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Speaker 1: back to contention very quickly. It's a very talented roster.

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Speaker 4: I think Matt and I was just talking about that, yeah,

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Speaker 4: oh yeah, that that they.

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Speaker 3: Need like seven defensive players.

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Speaker 5: We're talking about the Bengals, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Chase.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that Higgins will be there next year.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's not going to be quite the.

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Speaker 1: Same, but no, it won't be. I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: that they are hoping that Jermaine Burton, who's a super

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Speaker 1: talented guy, you know, first round talent, third round pick,

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Speaker 1: and that obviously there are reasons for that. You're hoping

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Speaker 1: that he's going to pan out for you. You know,

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Speaker 1: Zach Moss wasn't having a great year when he got hurt.

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Speaker 1: But you know, really the back end I think was

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Speaker 1: really hurt by DJ Turner and Dax Hill being hurt.

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Speaker 1: The defensive line I think the biggest problem on the team.

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Speaker 1: You know, the two linebackers are good, solid professional linebackers,

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Speaker 1: Pratt and Wilson. I like them both. I think they're

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Speaker 1: both good players. The biggest problem to me is that

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Speaker 1: they thought Sheldon Rankins was going to be able to

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Speaker 1: replace DJ Reeder and he's not been the same player.

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Speaker 1: The defensive line has not been good. Now they drafted

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Speaker 1: guys in the second and third round that again, I

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Speaker 1: think will mature and I think the decision you have

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Speaker 1: to make on Hubbard. Is is he just having an

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Speaker 1: injury plagued year or for some reason, is he just

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Speaker 1: hit a wall. He had injury problems early on. He

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Speaker 1: has not been the same guy. So when I say,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think you shore up the defensive line,

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Speaker 1: maybe you get you know, an interior offensive a lignement,

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Speaker 1: and sure you want a little help in the back end,

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Speaker 1: but that's not you know, a thousand problems. I think

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Speaker 1: their problems, I guess their problems to me are pretty

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Speaker 1: easily recognizable. And it's a matter of whether they have

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Speaker 1: the resources financially in draft pickwise to be able.

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Speaker 3: To fix or the wherewithal to use those.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they start hitting on picks.

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Speaker 3: They they've not right.

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Speaker 4: They've not spent a lot over the years in terms

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Speaker 4: of free agency. So yeah, we'll see about that. But

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Speaker 4: it doesn't it doesn't take away from what the Steelers

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Speaker 4: did on the field yesterday. You know, you mentioned Kansas

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Speaker 4: City and Buffalo. Cincinnati's offensive skill position players are better

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Speaker 4: than both of those teams. If you take everything into

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Speaker 4: the equation. Quarterback, running back, wide receivers are better than

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Speaker 4: Buffalo and Kansas City. You went out there and outscored

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Speaker 4: those units, right.

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Speaker 1: I think for you know, when you look at quarterback

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Speaker 1: and top two receivers, that combination of players, if you

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Speaker 1: took the quarterback out, and I think Burrows phenomenal. No

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Speaker 1: team's got two receivers quite as good as Jason Higgins agreed.

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Speaker 1: So yes, I think that it is. You know in Gasiki,

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Speaker 1: you know, working out of the slot. And there's another thing,

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Speaker 1: you know, Eric All is another guy, that young tight

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Speaker 1: end who they really missed because they really have to

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Speaker 1: mix and match. I mean, Gasiki's a receiving tight end.

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Speaker 1: But regardless, I'm forget the bank, They're uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: they're They're a formidable challenge. And I think it underscores

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Speaker 1: the importance of what the Steelers did to get faster

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Speaker 1: and better on defense, faster and better in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the field. You know, Joey Porter Junior had had

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Speaker 1: the penalties, we understand that he's been, uh just as

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Speaker 1: he's a really solid job against a lot of tough

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Speaker 1: matchups early on in the season, I think, but then

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Speaker 1: you have Dante Jackson on the other side. Man, what

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Speaker 1: an upgrade he's been. He gives you that second guy

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Speaker 1: that can cover when you run into a team like Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: and then you have Queen and Peyton Wilson with their

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Speaker 1: speed in the middle of the field. Deshaun Elliott adds

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Speaker 1: a different speed element in the back end alongside micka Fitzpatrick.

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Speaker 1: I just think and then of course, you know the

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Speaker 1: bounce back season for Cam Hayward. I mean I can

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Speaker 1: name the whole defense. You know her big. You know

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Speaker 1: what a luxury to have a guy like that be

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Speaker 1: your third guy. So when when high Smith is out,

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Speaker 1: you're not really feeling it. I mean it's it is,

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Speaker 1: you know, off of the cap for sure. Look, people,

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Speaker 1: you gave up thirty one points. Why are you dofpin

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Speaker 1: the cap? Well, because it's an explosive offense. It was

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Speaker 1: a shootout type of game and you were able to

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Speaker 1: make the plays you needed to to win the game.

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Speaker 5: Soon we can all admit that since he's defensive line besides,

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Speaker 5: Hendrickson isn't great, but right, I really like the way

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Speaker 5: kind of an underreported issue because's easy to focus on

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Speaker 5: Cam and Watt and Russ and all these stars that

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Speaker 5: are playing like stars. But I think the Steelers OH

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Speaker 5: line every week takes kind of a baby step forward,

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Speaker 5: baby step forward and the right side of the line,

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Speaker 5: this game took a nice step forward.

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Speaker 1: To me. Yeah, I think that's a great point, Matt.

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Speaker 1: You know, and first of all, you know, Dan Moore

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Speaker 1: continues to to have a very good season at a

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Speaker 1: very good time for him, you know, without a contract

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Speaker 1: after the season. Henderson didn't do anything yesterday. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he did nothing, and Dan morgants a lot of credit

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Speaker 1: for that. But you know, when I think of the season,

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Speaker 1: and look, you want to always play the best possible

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Speaker 1: game you could play. But I really think that this

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Speaker 1: becomes the time of season in which you want to

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Speaker 1: start finding yourself. You want to start peeking towards the postseason.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's understandable that when you have, you know,

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Speaker 1: young players and Roderick Jones is still a young player

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Speaker 1: at right tackle, and you have Zach Frazier who's been

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Speaker 1: really pretty darn goods from the get go, and Mason

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Speaker 1: McCormick who's starting, and again, don't forget Troy Faltanu was

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Speaker 1: your starting right tackle and Daniels was your starting right guard.

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Speaker 1: So you would hope that these guys would progress as

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Speaker 1: the season goes on. It's never going to be a

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Speaker 1: linear fashion. It's just, you know, it's not a bar

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Speaker 1: graph where you go from you know, the left hand corner,

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Speaker 1: bottom left hand corner to the upper right hand corner.

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Speaker 1: Just doesn't work that way. But you know, these guys

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Speaker 1: playing at the level they're playing at and hopefully getting

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Speaker 1: better as you get into the playoffs and reaching a

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Speaker 1: peak as the playoffs begin. That is, I think encouraging.

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Speaker 1: That's what you want as a team. Nobody remembers who

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Speaker 1: was the best team in the NFL in Week ten

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Speaker 1: and that best team in week ten Injuries, players petering out,

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Speaker 1: players hitting a wall. It's not always the team that

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Speaker 1: also wins the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: And I like that the five of them are starting

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Speaker 5: to get some continuity. We can't overlook all the combinations

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Speaker 5: they've had to play early in the season.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I totally, Matt, It's one hundred percent right. It

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Speaker 1: is a you know it is it's a unit. It

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Speaker 1: is vitally important for that group to be able to communicate,

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Speaker 1: to know the strengths and weaknesses that people buy you

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Speaker 1: because it just takes one sliver, one guy shooting a

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Speaker 1: gap in a passing situation. Look at yesterday, look at

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Speaker 1: the plays that the Steelers defense made that were vital

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Speaker 1: at vital times, whether it's Cam Hayward getting a hand

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Speaker 1: up and deflecting a ball, or you know, rocketing through

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Speaker 1: for a sack, whether it's TJ. Watt with a couple

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Speaker 1: of sacks, herbig maybe the biggest play of the game

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Speaker 1: that Strip sacked that Wilson picked up and ran in

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Speaker 1: for a score. It just takes a little flash, a

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Speaker 1: little bit of room, a little bit of space, a

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Speaker 1: little bit of miscommunication upfront for a defense to be

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Speaker 1: able to turn a game like the Steelers defense turned

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Speaker 1: the game yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Oh, there's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 4: And you know, we talked about it even last week

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Speaker 4: that you knew you were gonna have to score points

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Speaker 4: against this Bengals team because they were going to score points.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna put points on board.

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Speaker 4: They've now lost three games this season where they've scored

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Speaker 4: more than thirty three points.

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Speaker 3: For the rest of the league's lost two.

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Speaker 5: It's crazy, it really is.

655
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Speaker 4: There's it four, yeah, it's now three, right, there's some

656
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 4: obscene numbers with it.

657
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Speaker 5: I mean, depending where you put the cutoff at thirty

658
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Speaker 5: or thirty.

659
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Speaker 4: Three, it's it's insane. But they've scored pretty much against everybody.

660
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Speaker 4: It's just a matter of can you outscore them? And

661
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 4: to me that was the big thing. Your offense showed

662
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Speaker 4: that it is capable of doing that. Yes, your defense

663
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 4: gave up, you gave up some yards and stuff like that,

664
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Speaker 4: but I mean, in the grand scheme of skin, grand

665
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 4: scheme of things, your defense forced three turnovers, you had

666
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 4: four sacks, you had, you got stops against you had

667
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Speaker 4: a couple of three and outs against the Bengals, which

668
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 4: gave your offense a chance to get back on the field.

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Speaker 4: And the offense answer to Bell, I thought that was

670
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 4: a pretty complete game yesterday.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and along those lines, ok we were talking about.

672
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Speaker 5: I mean, the Bengals have scored thirty five points three

673
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Speaker 5: times and are one and two in those games. The

674
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Speaker 5: rest of the league is thirty five and oh when

675
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 5: they scored thirty five points, I mean, come on, man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The other stat I think that I was told

677
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Speaker 1: before this game was that they had three losses in

678
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Speaker 1: which they scored thirty three or more points and the

679
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: entire rest of the NFL had two, and Tom Brady

680
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: had four in his career. So the Bengals have now

681
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: had more. Yeah, in the first twelve games of this

682
00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: season losses with scoring thirty three or more points Brady

683
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Speaker 1: had in his entire career. That's crazy.

684
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Speaker 5: And they have a bunch of opportunities to add to it.

685
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Speaker 5: They're not done yet.

686
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yes, they keep going. And you know when

687
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Speaker 1: when you look at this team and the reason that

688
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: this game scared me, well, we just saw it. They

689
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Speaker 1: scored thirty eight points seven of my defense, we get that.

690
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: And again, you know, going back to what we were

691
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Speaker 1: talking about at the beginning, how many times over the years,

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Speaker 1: including against the Bengals, have we seen a team be

693
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Speaker 1: able to score points against the Steelers? And the Steelers

694
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Speaker 1: just don't have an answer. And I've said this a

695
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: couple of times this year. But to me, you know,

696
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: for for fans, and look, we all all you know, hey,

697
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: you could have managed that situation bet at the first half. Okay,

698
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: maybe you could have uh and and clock management wise,

699
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: I understand that. But this, to me, what the Steelers

700
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: are doing now is a reminder to me of what

701
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Speaker 1: a great job Mike Tomlin and his staff has done

702
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. Because we're seeing the importance

703
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: to the quarterback position, right and think about all the

704
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: teams around the league in which their quarterback is hurt.

705
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Speaker 1: And that's it. They're four and thirteen. You know, they're

706
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Speaker 1: five and twelve. They're done.

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Speaker 3: It's done, yes over, you know.

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Speaker 1: And and you know the Steelers are running out a

709
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: guy from Duck dynasty, and and you know, you know,

710
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: making it to five hundred, pushing a playoff spot. It's

711
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: remarkable what they've been able to do. Remarkable. They've been

712
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: able to win one score games and now we're seeing

713
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Speaker 1: what happens. And again, I'm just as guilty of this

714
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 1: as anybody else guilty of forgetting what you know, a

715
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Speaker 1: championship caliber, Hall of Fame caliber quarterback can do for

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Speaker 1: a team. What Ben Roethlisberger used to be able to

717
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Speaker 1: do for the Steelers. Hey, we're losing in the fourth quarter,

718
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: Ben says, don't worry about it, I got it. You

719
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: know we have to get in a shootout. Ben says,

720
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: don't worry about it, I got it. Well, now we

721
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Speaker 1: have Russell Wilson being able to say those things in

722
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Speaker 1: the huddle and do his teammates as well. And we

723
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Speaker 1: saw evidence of that yesterday.

724
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And the other big thing, Rob is, you know, people

726
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 4: were harping on the red zone offense all last week

727
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 4: because obviously they didn't. They didn't score in the red

728
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,919
Speaker 4: zone against the Ravens even though they won the game.

729
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 4: And you know, they went one for two in the

730
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Speaker 4: red zone against the Browns and lost that game. The

731
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Speaker 4: red zone offense, red zone offense, red zone offense all

732
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Speaker 4: we heard about, and I kept telling people, including people

733
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 4: you know who listened to this show and respond in

734
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 4: the comments section, I'm like, it's it's not I don't

735
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Speaker 4: think it's an issue. And here's why every red zone

736
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Speaker 4: trip is not the same. They scored on their first

737
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Speaker 4: two trips in the red zone yesterday, they score touchdown

738
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Speaker 4: on both of them. The next time they go into

739
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 4: the red zone is at the end of the first half.

740
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 4: They hit a pass to Jaylen Warren to get to

741
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 4: the sixteen. They call time out and kick a field goal.

742
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 4: That counts as a failed red zone trip, but in reality,

743
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 4: it was not a failed.

744
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 3: Red zone trip.

745
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 4: You did exactly what you were trying to do in

746
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Speaker 4: that situation, which was to put some points on the

747
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 4: board before the end of the half. The last red

748
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 4: zone trip, they get to the four, but they're running

749
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 4: the ball trying to get the Bengals to use their timeouts.

750
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 4: They get them to use all their all three timeouts.

751
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 4: Wilson takes a sack on purpose on third down to

752
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 4: let the clock continue to run because Bengals are now

753
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 4: out of timeouts, and so you kick another field goal.

754
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 4: Again counts as a failed red zone trip. But in

755
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 4: reality it was a very good trip. It was a

756
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 4: very very successful trip because you ate, you went the

757
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 4: length of the field, you kick the field goal to

758
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 4: make it a thirteen point game, and you force them

759
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Speaker 4: to use all their timeouts.

760
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Speaker 3: Right, But that's next level.

761
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 4: It's next level thinking on this stuff. You can't just

762
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Speaker 4: look at the numbers and say, well, this offense is

763
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Speaker 4: forming one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think that's the thing too.

765
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Speaker 1: They're they're you know, I love statistics, but they do

766
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Speaker 1: have to be taken into context, and it's not always

767
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Speaker 1: easy to do that. And you know, you sometimes think,

768
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Speaker 1: and I would say this, like, over the course of

769
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: you know, if we get to the end of the

770
00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: regular season, there are going to be there's going to

771
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Speaker 1: be enough statistical evidence that within some plus or minus

772
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: scale you're gonna be able to say, okay, uh, the

773
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Speaker 1: students have been good in the red zone. They were

774
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Speaker 1: good in the red zone in Washington, right, So, uh,

775
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: you know, I think that that you know, look, there

776
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,479
Speaker 1: are still uh stories to be told in this team.

777
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: You know, we talked about yesterday's game. You know, you

778
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: get a pick six, you get a block field goal.

779
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 1: That's unlike the Steelers is you know, the Steelers special

780
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: teams have been a plus almost uniformly throughout the season.

781
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: But there are still there's still time left to tell

782
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: the story of what this team is gonna look like

783
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: going into the playoffs, and then of course the playoffs

784
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: you know, it can be entirely different as well. But

785
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Speaker 1: I think that that's you know, you'll find out what

786
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 1: trends there are and what things you need to improve

787
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: upon when you just have a little more evidence. I mean,

788
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 1: this is Russell Wilson has started was a six Ers

789
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: is it six games five and one as a starter,

790
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 1: averaging twenty nine points a game. Still, that number, that

791
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: number feels real to me, you know, because look, you're

792
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: you're reduced by what you can do offensively in the

793
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: snow in Cleveland. You know, the Studens and Ravens always

794
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: score under twenty points when they play and then the

795
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: other games of Stula's offense has been explosive. So uh

796
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Speaker 1: you know again, well, you know, let's check back in

797
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,479
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks from now and after you played

798
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: Baltimore again, and after you played Philadelphia and after you

799
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: played Kansas City, we'll see where those numbers lie. I

800
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 1: suspect they're gonna lie in a good spot. But that's

801
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: why you play the games, you know. As I said before,

802
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: it's not like two guys run out there with statistics

803
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: at midfield and my stick. Yeah he runs off with

804
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: his hands in the air. That's it. Yeah, jeeps have won.

805
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: You know, you got to actually play the game.

806
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 3: So it's not rock paper scissors out there.

807
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 5: And yeah, no, no, it.

808
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: Is heavy emphasis on the paper.

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00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 3: Well, Kinger will let you go again. You can check

810
00:37:56,120 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 3: out Rob's book. Where can they buy that at rub Amazon? Amazon?

811
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Speaker 1: There you go Rob the Stone. If you get to

812
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: Rob King and there's like some complex book on mathematical equations,

813
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: that's a different Rob.

814
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 3: That's not you.

815
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: This is called The Door in the Stone. It's a

816
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: middle grade fantasy book. Thanks for the plug, guys, Hope

817
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: people buy it and enjoy it, and thanks for.

818
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 3: Having me on always Rob.

819
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,240
Speaker 4: That's Rob King, Steelers play by play announcer, the voice

820
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 4: of the Pittsburgh Steelers. He's Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly.

821
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Speaker 4: You're listening to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network.

822
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 4: Will be back with more right after this.

823
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Speaker 1: Least.

824
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Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

825
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

826
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Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 4: And welcome back to the Drive. I am Dale Lolly.

828
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Speaker 4: He is the Matt Williamson and Matt. We've now has

829
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Speaker 4: to follow through with our conversation there with Rob King.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was great.

831
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Speaker 4: Russell Wilson now five and one as a starter. Now

832
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 4: Joe Euston Fields was four and two. Again, I mean

833
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:03,919
Speaker 4: when a lot of games is here, if they've won,

834
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Speaker 4: they're nine and three as a team. Wilson now has

835
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Speaker 4: sixteen hundred and fifty three passing yards in his six games,

836
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Speaker 4: ten touchdown passes, another rushing. He's gonna have six more

837
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 4: games to add to that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I'm sorry,

838
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 4: five more games to add to that, yes, add to

839
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 4: those toles. So he'll make eleven starts this year if

840
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 4: he can get the three thousand yards again. Wow, what

841
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 4: do you say is that now he's at sixteen fifty

842
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 4: three through.

843
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 5: Six another five? Yeah, close, close, Yeah, probably won't throw

844
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 5: for four to fourteen again, but probably Well they get

845
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,919
Speaker 5: the Bengals again, you can play them again, you play

846
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 5: the Chiefs.

847
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Speaker 3: I mean that, you know, maybe that's a shootout.

848
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, Ravens pass defense isn't glorious either.

849
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, you might have to get into a different Typically,

850
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 4: what happens in conference games or division games, I should

851
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 4: say is if one game is high scoring, the second

852
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 4: one is low scoring, and vice versa.

853
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that just seems to be how they go.

854
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 4: Now, Steeler Ravens games have always gone, They've just been

855
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Speaker 4: low scoring.

856
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Speaker 5: But will seem shocked off. Week eighteen is ten to

857
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 5: seven though, Yeah, you know against the Bengals.

858
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Speaker 4: Every season in his career has passed for three thousand yards.

859
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Speaker 4: Even last year, last year he sat down, he had

860
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Speaker 4: he had three thousand and seventy with twenty six touchdown passes.

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Speaker 5: Durability has been a huge key to it, of course,

862
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 5: you know, right, knock on wood, yeah right, Yesterday was

863
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Speaker 5: the second best passing day in terms of yardage in

864
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Speaker 5: his career.

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Speaker 4: I know, this guy's put up a lot of big

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Speaker 4: career numbers.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean he's a massive producer, I mean

868
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Speaker 5: through his whole career, and this is his second highest scoring,

869
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Speaker 5: your best game of his life. Yeah. Now, you're not

870
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,959
Speaker 5: going to count on four hundred plus every every week.

871
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 3: But you got it in your hip pocket. Now you

872
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 3: know you can do it.

873
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, it exists and.

874
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 3: He can do it and take care of the football.

875
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 5: Yeah. And my co host on the podcast asked me,

876
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 5: He's like, if I told you before the season started

877
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 5: that a Steeler quarterback threw for over four hundred yards

878
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 5: in the first game in December, what would you think

879
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 5: I'd be like, it must have been a flukey one,

880
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 5: you know, like three defensive backs fell down, loan coverage,

881
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 5: somehow you had a ninety yard catch and run. You know,

882
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 5: there was none of that. There was none of that.

883
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 5: It was efficiency, throw after throw, take what's there? You know,

884
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 5: good run after catch too. I mean teammates always helped,

885
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 5: but it was smart, efficient football.

886
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 4: It was more like him playing point guard yesterday. Yeah, yeah,

887
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 4: just getting the ball to people for layups, lay up,

888
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 4: lay up, lay up, lay up, layup. Absolutely, this guy's

889
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 4: you know, Shack's got a great matchup in the post.

890
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,240
Speaker 4: I'm gonna feed him over and over. I mean, whatever

891
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 4: it is. But where keeping out of negatives I keep

892
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 4: coming back to with him. Yeah, to your point, the

893
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 4: Steelers got I think it was six ten. They got

894
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 4: thirteen catches from the running backs. Yeah, yeah, for almost

895
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty yards, and they're all highly capable.

896
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 4: They got six They have eleven I think eleven catches

897
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 4: for the tight ends. Yeah, again for over one hundred yards.

898
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 4: And then the wide receiver. There wasn't a lot of

899
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 4: you know, wide receiver stuff. You know, Pickens had three

900
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 4: catches for seventy four yards, Austin had two for this was.

901
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 5: His lowest target share with Wilson. You know, they just

902
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 5: didn't pump it into Pickens over and over.

903
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 4: Jefferson had one for forty three that was a catch

904
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,879
Speaker 4: and run, and Ben Scronik had one for twenty three.

905
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 5: So this was the road I was going to go

906
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 5: down with Rob, but we ran out of time, and

907
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 5: there's a million things to talk about with him. Ten

908
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 5: guys cup balls, and we were talking about the maturity

909
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 5: of Wilson, and I think you can overestimate the human

910
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 5: element of that. If I'm Scornic or prou It or

911
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 5: Washington and I'm out there doing the dirty work, yeah

912
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 5: I'm happy to be there.

913
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 3: Yeah.

914
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 5: But if I can get the ball in my hands

915
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 5: once or twice, you were rewarded.

916
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is fun. There was guy Ben's is either.

917
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 4: People were asking why's Ben Skronic out there instead of

918
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 4: Mike Williams Because.

919
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 3: Ben'skronick is a ridiculous hard nose blocker.

920
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 4: Not that Mike Williams can't do it, but Ben'skronick is

921
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 4: blocking like defensive ends.

922
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 3: Same thing with Van Jefferson. They're putting their nose in there.

923
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 5: And plus, when Austin went out, Scronic directly replaced him

924
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 5: as the slow.

925
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 4: Williams out there. Williams might have been. Williams and Connor Hayward.

926
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 4: I think were like the only two guys who played

927
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 4: a significant amount of snaps yesterday who didn't catch balls.

928
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 5: Is the time you get worried about Williams. I know

929
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 5: this is a positive Monday after.

930
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 3: I'm not.

931
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 5: I just haven't seen separation, you know, other than one

932
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 5: big play.

933
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 3: There's a big play.

934
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 5: They haven't needed them. I mean, it's one of them

935
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 5: was also a snow game, and I mean, I get

936
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 5: the circumstances, but I don't know if he's gonna be

937
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 5: a big contributor or not. Who knows.

938
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it gives you another guy. I think

939
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 4: he will contribute down the stretch. I'm not concerned about

940
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 4: that at all. I mean, this isn't a Deontay Johnson

941
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 4: situation in Baltimore, which is really blowing up by the way.

942
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,760
Speaker 4: Folks get zero snaps, Yester zero snaps yesterday, and Bateman

943
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 4: got hurt.

944
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 5: And got hurt and he's struggling that he wants out. Yeah,

945
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 5: you know it's not going well.

946
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 4: He's got five targets or six targets, and since he's

947
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 4: played them, he's got one catch for like five yards.

948
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 5: I'll be the first to admit, like when my front

949
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 5: phone blew up this summer and I'm like, oh, they

950
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,919
Speaker 5: traded Deontay. What did they Get'm like, oh, I thought

951
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 5: they'd get more than that. They got more than they

952
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 5: should have got.

953
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 4: For Dante, Jackson is tied for the league lead with

954
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 4: five interceptions among all cornerbacks.

955
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 5: He's more valuable than Johnson, yes, no question. I mean

956
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 5: I bet the Panthers will tell you that. I bet

957
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 5: the Ravens will tell you that. And you got more

958
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 5: draft picks than you gave up, you know, so be

959
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 5: happy about it, folks.

960
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that that deal.

961
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 4: But my point was that all this time, but yeah,

962
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 4: you threw for four hundred yards and your receivers weren't

963
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 4: the major rush into that.

964
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 5: Right, right? Was It was it around and taking what's

965
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 5: given and tight ends and running backs. Like you said,

966
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 5: it's great. I mean, I think it's a great thing

967
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:06,800
Speaker 5: to build on going forward.

968
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Speaker 4: We've been waiting for Friarmouth to be a bigger part

969
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 4: of the passing game all season long. Well, six six

970
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:14,280
Speaker 4: catches on seven targets for sixty eight yards and a touchdown.

971
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 5: Yeah all right, Yeah, you're not built like the Bengals

972
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 5: with Chasing Higgins that you can just pump, you know,

973
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 5: twenty five targets to a week. So how do you

974
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 5: manufact ot how do you make the stew out of

975
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 5: a lot of different ingredients? Well, they're showing you how.

976
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 3: Yeah.

977
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 4: If I'm future opponents, I'm looking at this game and going, well,

978
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,120
Speaker 4: wait a second, Pickens caught three passes and they threw

979
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 4: for four hundred yards and scored forty four points.

980
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 5: Like if I'm the Ravens, for example, because the Ravens

981
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 5: took Kyle Hamilton and really dedicate them to Pickens. But

982
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 5: I want to do that again, and then if I don't, well,

983
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 5: then they're gonna throw to Pickens, you know, I mean obviously,

984
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 5: But yeah, I do think there's a maturity, advanced quarterback,

985
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 5: human element of I'm gonna make sure everybody gets one. Yeah,

986
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 5: I'm gonna make sure proud who's been fighting and scrapping

987
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 5: at least gets to touch the ball.

988
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 4: I also thought it was interesting one last thing here

989
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 4: that one of the knocks against Wilson coming out of

990
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 4: Denver was well, he's a checkdown artist. All he wants

991
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 4: to do is check the ball down. We threw for

992
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 4: four hundred yards yesterday checking the ball down.

993
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's also a peytent thing too. I mean

994
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 5: that's I mean the top of league again to throwing

995
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 5: the ball to running backs, which is a highly efficient

996
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 5: manner of It's like a handoff. If you can get

997
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 5: nause of your war and touching the ball in front

998
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 5: of the line of scrimmage instead of behind the line

999
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 5: of scrimmage. Great, yeah, give me it all day long.

1000
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 3: Absolutely, but let's get to a break.

1001
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 4: That's going to do it for our number one of

1002
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Speaker 4: the drive here on the Steelers Audio Network.

1003
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Speaker 3: Matt and I will be back with our number two

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Speaker 3: right after this