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Speaker 1: of small bed Yeah. Good mornings were then Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Now Dunks podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: November seventeenth, Ja skeets and alongside me, as always, there

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Speaker 4: What's up everybody?

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Speaker 1: Tasty got my top shot? Hot boy, Trey Kirby. Hey, hey,

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Speaker 1: you the international man of mystery taking it to the

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Speaker 1: max Lelis friend, our super producer making the magic hap

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Speaker 1: in JD Hello, and a special guest. Today we're going

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Speaker 1: to bring him in. He's a former professional basketball player.

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Speaker 1: He hooped overseas in Germany, Spain, Israel. Before that, he

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Speaker 1: former Wizards executive Ernie Grunfeld, and most importantly, if we're

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Speaker 1: being honest here, he's the author of a brand new book,

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Speaker 1: By the Grace of the Game, which drops on November thirtieth.

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Speaker 1: That's coming up, that's right around the corner. Very excited

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Speaker 1: to welcome here to No Dunk's Dan Grunfield.

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Speaker 3: What's up, Dan, guys, thank you so much for having me.

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Speaker 3: It's great to be here.

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Speaker 1: We really appreciate you jumping on. I thought at first,

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I read about your workouts in your book.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. You know, like you said, I had a lot

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's pretty damn good. Are you there? I'm

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Speaker 5: And you know, sorry, you were really close there, you know,

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Speaker 3: different sport than the people who think they could compete

432
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Speaker 3: with them, and that that's quite literally the truth. When

433
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Speaker 3: you do it day in and day out at the

434
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Speaker 3: highest level, in the level of preparation you need and

435
00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,520
Speaker 3: how competitive it is like, it's it's not even really

436
00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,280
Speaker 3: possible to understand what Brian Scalabrini is capable of doing

437
00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:51,960
Speaker 3: on a basketball ballt unless you've kind of been in

438
00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,080
Speaker 3: that arena with him. And there was that great video

439
00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,280
Speaker 3: that came out recently of him playing well called a civilian.

440
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Speaker 3: That's what's going to happen.

441
00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,159
Speaker 1: I still like your chances to get a couple of

442
00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:08,280
Speaker 1: threes off, make it close. You gotta be Dan first, though.

443
00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, you might have a chance at that.

444
00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,120
Speaker 3: Now you see you might have a chance.

445
00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,359
Speaker 1: If you guys you're both shooting in your glasses. If

446
00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,040
Speaker 1: you guys have a three point we got to keep.

447
00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:24,159
Speaker 4: It fair, Dan. I'm curious. I've heard guys look back

448
00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:28,320
Speaker 4: at their surgeries and think, you know, if it was today,

449
00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,919
Speaker 4: I would have recuperated a lot faster just because of

450
00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,520
Speaker 4: modern medicine. Like Dwayne Wade commented on that when he

451
00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,520
Speaker 4: was at Marquette, uh, the way his meniscus surgery went,

452
00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,520
Speaker 4: he thought he would be a lot better off today.

453
00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:44,119
Speaker 4: You were on your way to an NBA career, You're ready,

454
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Speaker 4: ready to be a draft pick, but then you had

455
00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,800
Speaker 4: that a cl injury in your junior year, had to

456
00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:54,760
Speaker 4: undergo surgery, obviously fought back to go overseason to play.

457
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Speaker 4: Do you consider that possibility when you look back at

458
00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,520
Speaker 4: that injury would have have been different if it was today.

459
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,040
Speaker 3: I do, which first all makes you feel old, right

460
00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,119
Speaker 3: because you never thought you'd be a person that talks about, like,

461
00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,480
Speaker 3: you know, medical advancements. But it's so rude because and

462
00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,040
Speaker 3: it's funny. My dad and I were talking about it

463
00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,239
Speaker 3: recently because I was mentioned Kevin Durant. I said, it's

464
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,920
Speaker 3: like the Achilles never happened. You look at this guy,

465
00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,840
Speaker 3: and part of it is what an a sensational athlete

466
00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:20,399
Speaker 3: he is. But my dad and I talked about it.

467
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,080
Speaker 3: Part of it are those advancements, and so yeah, listen,

468
00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,199
Speaker 3: it took me eight months to just play again, you know,

469
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,760
Speaker 3: and then I was I probably wasn't right until another

470
00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,639
Speaker 3: year and a half. And you know, when you're twenty

471
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 3: one years old and really making your rise in basketball,

472
00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,439
Speaker 3: to take that big of a step back, particularly for

473
00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,359
Speaker 3: someone like myself, you know, I was kind of a

474
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,520
Speaker 3: borderline NBA player anyway, I didn't have so much of

475
00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:44,120
Speaker 3: margin for error, so that that was certainly a tough injury.

476
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Speaker 3: But yeah, I think of it happened today. Things might

477
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Speaker 3: have been a little different the other.

478
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Speaker 1: Games from last night. Just to throw them in here,

479
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,639
Speaker 1: Bogdanovich scored twenty seven the Jazz crush the seventy six ers,

480
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,720
Speaker 1: who have now lost five in a row because they're shorthanded,

481
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,280
Speaker 1: they don't have a lot of their guys, and Paul

482
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Speaker 1: George continued his hot start thirty four points in thirty

483
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Speaker 1: four minutes as the Clippers schooled the Youngspurs one O

484
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Speaker 1: six ninety two. You can either touch on those games

485
00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 1: if you want to, Dan, but my question is what

486
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,919
Speaker 1: team has been the most surprising to you after you know,

487
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Speaker 1: fifteen or so games into the season. Is there a

488
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Speaker 1: squad where you're like, Wow, they are a lot better

489
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:16,439
Speaker 1: than I thought they maybe were gonna be.

490
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Speaker 3: I thought the Bulls would be competitive, but it's been

491
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Speaker 3: really fun to see how good they've been. And you

492
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,479
Speaker 3: know that back you know, you never know how things

493
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,119
Speaker 3: are gonna fit. And I've been on teams like that.

494
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 3: We're on paper, you think things are gonna work, and

495
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,160
Speaker 3: then it just doesn't happen, and vice versa. You don't

496
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 3: think that things will be good and then it happens

497
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,400
Speaker 3: to you. That backcourt you know when when you look

498
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 3: at those three guys, right, Alonso, de Rozen and Lavine.

499
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 3: I mean, what DeRozan's like third in the league in scoring,

500
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 3: Lavenus seventh. You know, you have Lonzo doing the little things, distributing,

501
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:49,119
Speaker 3: also scoring, you know, so that combinations have been so potent.

502
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Speaker 3: And listen, I grew up, you know, my dad was

503
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Speaker 3: working for the Knicks, so I love you know, I

504
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,159
Speaker 3: love that team. But they were playing the Bulls. They

505
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 3: were playing Michael Shorty. I saw those games in the

506
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Speaker 3: United Center. It's fun so to see the Bulls do well.

507
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,880
Speaker 3: And so that's probably been my biggest surprise, and I'd

508
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Speaker 3: call it a pleasant surprise because I like watching him.

509
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Speaker 6: Yeah, Dan, you mentioned earlier that it's better for the

510
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Speaker 6: league when the Knicks are doing well, But I think

511
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Speaker 6: it's best for the league when the Knicks and Bowls

512
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 6: are both doing well to get these you know, the

513
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Speaker 6: East Coast and the Midwest completely energized.

514
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Speaker 1: Here.

515
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Speaker 6: It's been a fun start to the season, no doubt

516
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Speaker 6: for the Bulls. But are we being a little biased

517
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,239
Speaker 6: here saying it's better when all these nineties teams are

518
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 6: really good? Or is this just because we're old guys

519
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 6: probably both nice.

520
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Speaker 1: I'm with you, we had some I don't know. I

521
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Speaker 1: don't want to call it like a clickbaity headline here,

522
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 1: but I want to get your take, Dan and everybody

523
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 1: else here, especially in the stream. Team Jannis has this

524
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Speaker 1: GQ Future interview, and he's got credible photos by the way,

525
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Speaker 1: I mean, just the bling on this guy. This guy's

526
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Speaker 1: like a model in addition to being an MVP. But

527
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Speaker 1: he said, I mean, this has got pulled out of

528
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Speaker 1: this interview. Jannis said there's a possibility that he could

529
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Speaker 1: leave Milwaukee in the future and embrace a new challenge

530
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 1: somewhere else. I'll quote him here. Me and my family

531
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Speaker 1: chose to stay in this city, Milwaukee that we all

532
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 1: love and has taken care of us for now. In

533
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: two years that might change. I'm being totally honest with you.

534
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 1: I'm always honest. I love this city, I love this community.

535
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 1: I want to help as much as possible. So some

536
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 1: Bucks fans going, uh oh, he's already telling us he

537
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: might be leaving. But what was your reaction to this

538
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 1: headline into these like sort of quotes, Stan.

539
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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I have deep family roots in Milwaukee.

540
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 3: That's where my mom is from That's where my dad

541
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 3: played for the Bucks and was a GM I went

542
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 3: to high school there. So I love the city of Milwaukee. Listen, nowadays, right,

543
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,439
Speaker 3: guys keep their options open. So I look at it

544
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Speaker 3: as just someone who he's obviously shown his commitment to

545
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Speaker 3: the city, not only in staying there but bringing them

546
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Speaker 3: a champion, a championship, you know, just being committed to

547
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Speaker 3: every aspect of the city of Milwaukee. So I think

548
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 3: he has walked the walk. But at the same time,

549
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 3: he's a global brand, he's an icon. Now he's a champion.

550
00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 3: I think it's probably the type of thing where he

551
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 3: just wants to keep his options open and be candid

552
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 3: with with that community. So I wouldn't read too much

553
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 3: into it. I wouldn't start panicking. I think, listen, if

554
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 3: they keep winning, he's gonna stay right, So it's a

555
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,199
Speaker 3: kind of incumbent upon the Bucks to keep him keep

556
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 3: winning championships, and they're an amazing organization. But definitely we'll

557
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 3: make headlines, right because you hear one of the best

558
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 3: players in the world say that, Yeah, it's gonna raise eyebrow.

559
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I loved like I guess it was his agent

560
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 1: task agent saying, you know, like the challenge he's talking

561
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Speaker 1: about is repeating, and then you know he's a young

562
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 1: guy and he's won a lot. He's just trying to

563
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 1: find these new things to keep him engage. It's not

564
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Speaker 1: like he's saying, I'm going to the Knicks in two

565
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: years see you later, though, Nicks fans will tell you

566
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Speaker 1: that's exactly what's happening.

567
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Speaker 4: Well, Dan, I thought of you while reading your book

568
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 4: and thinking about Yannis. Yanny said he was alone when

569
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Speaker 4: he was eighteen years old in Milwaukee, and you felt

570
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 4: the same way reading your book when Pops was working

571
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 4: for the Bucks and you really didn't have friends. You're

572
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 4: kind of in loaner mode there. Do you feel like

573
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Speaker 4: you're a Yannistatakumpo? You got like a kindred spirit there, And.

574
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 3: I'll take the comparison for surely it probably ends there

575
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 3: at the loaner who didn't have many friends to start.

576
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 3: But no, it's true. My dad, you know, became the

577
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 3: general manager of the Milwaukee Buns when I was a

578
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 3: sophomore in high school, and I moved to Milwaukee from

579
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 3: northern New Jersey the day before my high school year started.

580
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 3: So I just you know, you leave all your friends,

581
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Speaker 3: you live in a new place, and my grandparents were

582
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 3: living in Milwaukee. So it's not that I didn't know anyone,

583
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 3: but I didn't have really a community or a group

584
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Speaker 3: of friends. And as you know, I write in the

585
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Speaker 3: book about some of the things I did to keep

586
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Speaker 3: myself occupied, you know, with card tricks to myself and

587
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 3: different things, just because you don't have a community yet.

588
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Speaker 3: So I know that feeling.

589
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Speaker 5: You're you're more fanasas rather than your honest and sort

590
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 5: of we can keep going.

591
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Speaker 3: There are five brothers, man, we can keep going.

592
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Speaker 1: Francis, Yeah, hold on, you were doing card tricks like

593
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: you were doing magic. You taught yourself magic.

594
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Speaker 3: I'm seriously think about it. When you're like fifteen, you're

595
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Speaker 3: in a new city. It was again talking about being old.

596
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 3: It was before really cell phones and texting, so I'm

597
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 3: just kind of chilling, okay. I was like, let me

598
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 3: go on the internet, which I just barely had, you know,

599
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 3: it was like dialogue. I love learning new card tricks

600
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 3: and practicing them for myself. I mean I literally did

601
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 3: that for like, listen, I'm not trying to paint like

602
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 3: a sorrow story. I made a lot of friends. I

603
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,199
Speaker 3: had a great experience there, but for the first several

604
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 3: weeks I did have that kind of loneliness and you know,

605
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 3: it was hard, but we got through it, right.

606
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Speaker 1: Ah, Right, It's crazy unfortunate news out of Cleveland yesterday.

607
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: Mobley is gonna miss the next two to four weeks.

608
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 1: They're saying with a right elbow strain. Dis keV rookie

609
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: has played great. I'm sure you would agree, Dan. Basically

610
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 1: fifteen and eight two and a half is this as well?

611
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: Over a block and a half in thirty three minutes

612
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: per game. Probably the leading candidate for Rookie of the

613
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 1: Year early in the season here along with Mobley. Are

614
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Speaker 1: there any other rookies that have really impressed you or

615
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Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on this draft class in general?

616
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Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean Mobley has been the guy, and not

617
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 3: only have I been impressed, but he's the one who

618
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 3: people are texting me about, you know. I mean early early,

619
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Speaker 3: my dad sent me a texting us watch Mobley you

620
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Speaker 3: know this? Wow? Yeah, really very early. He said he's

621
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Speaker 3: the real deal. And I'd have a very good friend

622
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 3: who is a big Calves fan. He text me all

623
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,959
Speaker 3: the time about Mobley, so he's actually been the guy

624
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 3: I've been most focused on. I'm interested to see Kate

625
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 3: Cunningham kind of get his legs under him, get acclimated

626
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 3: a little. I really liked him in college. I think

627
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 3: he could really create, and so I know it's kind

628
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 3: of been up and down and it's hard when you

629
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Speaker 3: start your career not one hundred percent healthy, you know.

630
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Speaker 3: So I'm interested to kind of give him a little

631
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 3: bit more time to kind of see how he developed.

632
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 3: I really really liked him coming out of college.

633
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like it's going to be, you know,

634
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: a fun little race here for Rookie of the Year.

635
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 1: It's unfortunate that Mobley is going to miss some time,

636
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: but in a weird way, Lee it almost allows some

637
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: of these other guys to catch up a little bit

638
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 1: and hopefully he comes back fully healthy. Mobley does, and

639
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: we have, like between Barns and Kate and maybe Jalen

640
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: and so on, Franz Wagner, a couple other guys, we

641
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: get quite the race here. But you know, bubber news

642
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: for Cleveland, especially for tas mellis the biggest Cavs fan.

643
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: I know he's always texted me about the Calves. But

644
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Speaker 1: it sucks that he's going to miss some time here

645
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: so early in his career.

646
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, he has been probably better than I think we

647
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 5: expected at this point because those early comparisons, you know,

648
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 5: like Kevin Gadet Chris bosh is, like there's a Hall

649
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 5: of Fame talents. But Mobley has certainly shown that he

650
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 5: looks ready for the NBA. You know, he's still a

651
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 5: thin young kid. He's got some filling out to do

652
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 5: with his body, but that hasn't really impacted his game

653
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 5: so far. He's been good on both ends of the

654
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 5: floor and even knocking down a couple of three points

655
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 5: as well. That's not his strength, but certainly he's shown

656
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 5: that he's trying to add that to his game as well.

657
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 5: So it is a bummer because the Cavs have been

658
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 5: one of the best stories this season, fun team to watch,

659
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 5: and they've been winning and they've probably got the Rookie

660
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 5: of the Year still. So hopefully he does come back

661
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 5: in a couple of weeks time and it doesn't miss

662
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 5: out on too much here.

663
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Speaker 6: Dan, you said your dad texted you I had a

664
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Speaker 6: time to let you know that Mobley was going to

665
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 6: be a really solid player.

666
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: Was there ever a.

667
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 6: Time that you got to tell your dad, I told

668
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 6: you so I knew this guy was going to be awesome,

669
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 6: or a move he made where you're like, I'm not

670
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 6: so sure.

671
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 3: Yes, there is one instance. It was the former, not

672
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,719
Speaker 3: the latter, and he'll still bring this up sometimes. We

673
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 3: you know, I was, I would I was playing overseas,

674
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 3: but I would come back to DC for the summers

675
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 3: and I would, you know, be working out where the

676
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 3: Wizards played, and so I would attend some of the

677
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 3: pre draft workouts. And I've been doing that since I

678
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 3: was a kid. I saw Kobe's pre draft workout for

679
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 3: the Nickson ninety six, you know, I saw I saw

680
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 3: Rick Fox work out for the Knicks, and I don't

681
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 3: I don't even remember when that was, but I was,

682
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 3: I was very but I happened to be at Chandler

683
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 3: Parson's workout and and I was just very very high

684
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 3: on him. And I kept telling me that, man, he's good.

685
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 3: And I'd seen him play at Florida and he really

686
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 3: knew how to play. I knew he was a coach's son.

687
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 3: He had a great feel, and I was just my

688
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 3: dad would tell you, like, I was super high on

689
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 3: Taylor Parsons and you know, he was the second round pick.

690
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 3: But obviously he turned out to be like a max

691
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 3: player at one point and had a really good MVA career.

692
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 3: So my dad will give me credit. He'll be like, yeah,

693
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 3: he calls me Danny, you know, like Danny saw that one.

694
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 3: Danny saw that one. I love it. Well.

695
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,239
Speaker 1: Before we let you go, you know, talk to us

696
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: a little bit about the new book here, like where

697
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: did this idea come to write this? And like even

698
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: give us you know, people here in the stream team

699
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: and listen and watching later like the the elevator pitch.

700
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: What is this book about? Why should people go grab absolutely?

701
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 3: So, I mean basketball fans know my dad, Ernie Grunfeld,

702
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 3: as a player, as a longtime executive. Few people know

703
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 3: that he's the only player in NBA history whose parents

704
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 3: survived the Holocaust. And so that's my grandparents. Both my

705
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 3: grandparents are Holocaust survivors. And you'll all be happy to know.

706
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 3: My grandmother's ninety six years old, lives in the Bay Area,

707
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 3: twenty five minutes from me and my wife. He's doing amazing,

708
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 3: but she you know, she lost seven immediate family members

709
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 3: in the Holocaust. They were all killed and so yeah,

710
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 3: my dad never had grandparents, and so you know, this

711
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 3: is kind of an unknown story of someone who you know,

712
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 3: came to America when he was nine years old, didn't

713
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 3: speak a word of English, had never touched a basketball,

714
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 3: and then he was a gold medalist for the United

715
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 3: States of America ten years later. So it's really an

716
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 3: American dream story. And certainly, you know, basketball has been

717
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 3: the vehicle for our family, and so really it's not

718
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 3: this is not a book about my dad. This is

719
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 3: a book about our family. You know, certainly what happened

720
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 3: to my grandparents in the war, my journey with basketball,

721
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 3: and then you know, my dad was really the connector,

722
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 3: and the game of basketball is what you know, took

723
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 3: my family to places we couldn't couldn't have imagined. So

724
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 3: you know, it's really an honor of my life to

725
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 3: tell it because it is, you know, it's a basketball

726
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 3: story that's bigger than basketball.

727
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 4: Some incredible stories from your father's side of things about

728
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 4: growing up, about his years as an executive with with

729
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 4: all those teams. We mentioned seeing Charles Oakley punch somebody

730
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 4: in the face on an airplane, some real incredible stuff

731
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 4: in there. Do you mind sharing the Larry Bird story

732
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 4: from the book, because it's a special one.

733
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 3: It is special, yeah, and thank you for bringing that up. Listen,

734
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 3: and I'll give you some context, right, So this is

735
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 3: there's a lot of difficult things in my book and

736
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 3: in my family story, you know, and my dad when

737
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 3: he came to America, his older brother was diagnosed with

738
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 3: leukemia and died a year later. So there's a lot

739
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 3: of like heavy stuff, but there's also a lot of laughter,

740
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 3: levity and joy. And what I really learned from my

741
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 3: grandma is that's what life is like. You know. There's

742
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 3: two sides of that coin, and so I wanted to

743
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 3: reflect that. So the story we're talking about here was

744
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 3: a Larry Bird story, and I won't give you I'll

745
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 3: give you a cliff notes version, hopefully to pick up

746
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 3: the book and read the rest. But I grew up

747
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 3: loving Larry Bird, as most you know, kids who grew

748
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 3: up in my era of the eighties and nineties did.

749
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 3: And I was playing Summer League for the Indiana Pacers

750
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 3: after Stanford and Larry Bird was a general manager, and

751
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 3: I had the opportunity to eat dinner with him, which

752
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 3: I thought was going to be a big dinner with

753
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 3: the whole team and it was just four people. So

754
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 3: I was very, very nervous and excited, and I was

755
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 3: drinking water like my life depended on it. I'm with

756
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 3: Larry Bird, right, I mean, let's like realize this. I'm

757
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 3: with Larry Bird pounding water. But and I after a

758
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 3: while had to go to the bathroom pretty bad. But

759
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 3: I am not getting up from the table when I'm

760
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 3: with Larry Bird, right, Like, who does that? You know

761
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 3: what I mean? So listen, there were opportunities where I

762
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 3: probably should have or definitely could have. I did it.

763
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 3: One thing led to another. I got a little bit

764
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 3: of a tough situation there. Let's just cut this version

765
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,239
Speaker 3: of the story here. Pick up the book. You can

766
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 3: hear the rest of it. Yeah, well, listen, like, these

767
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 3: are the things that happen in a basketball career in life,

768
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 3: you know, the good and the bad, and so just

769
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 3: just try to tell it all of this book.

770
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, incredible detail from your family's perspective, from your grandmother

771
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 4: who's alive and kicking, as you said, ninety six years old,

772
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 4: and from Pops and from yourself. So it was a

773
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 4: great read. It really really appreciate you writing it, and

774
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 4: it was really really pleasurable reading it. Everybody should pick

775
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 4: up By the Grace of the Game.

776
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: That's right, drops on November thirtieth. You can pre order

777
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: it now. I definitely saw that available over on Amazon.

778
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: So Dan, thanks so much for jumping on here. It

779
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: was fun to talk about the hoops last night and

780
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: what's going on in the league, and of course you

781
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: know the idea behind your book. Really appreciate you jumping

782
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: on here with us.

783
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thanks so much. It was a lot of fun.

784
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 3: I really appreciate it.

785
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: All Right, everybody go grab that book. By the Grace

786
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: of the Game. We're gonna take our first break when

787
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: we come back. I'm going to tell you my top

788
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: ten most disappointing players from this season. We're gonna upset

789
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of people, so go ahead anyway, Thanks Dan,

790
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: all right, welcome back to No Dunks here on a Wednesday.

791
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 4: Guys.

792
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: We're about a month into the twenty one to twenty

793
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: two NBA season, which means we have a pretty good

794
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: sample size when it comes to some guys who have

795
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: gotten off to disappointing starts. Because that's so truthfully expectations.

796
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,720
Speaker 1: They're part of the game. But some players right now

797
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: have fallen short in fulfilling them. So I'm going to

798
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: hit you with my top ten most disappointing players this

799
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: season so far. So a few notes, guys. First Off, Okay,

800
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,439
Speaker 1: I'm not saying these players suck ass and that they'll

801
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: never be good again. All right, I'm doing the opposite.

802
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: I'm likely saying rough starts, they'll probably get it going. Secondly,

803
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: I tried to mix up my list with young players

804
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: who were pegged to have breakout seasons, and that got

805
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: off to a rough go gunners maybe for whatever reason

806
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: that can't hit the target. And then some underwhelming starts

807
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 1: from some stir recketting all stars. And finally, I said

808
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: this yesterday, I'm only going to include players that are

809
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: actually playing. Am I disappointed Kyrie won't get the vaccine? Yeah?

810
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 1: And that he's not playing? Yes, I love watching him play.

811
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: Am I disappointed Ben Simmons is not mentally right to

812
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: play and the whole thing with the Sixers organization and

813
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: sort of the pissing contest between Maury and Simmons camp. Yeah,

814
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: I'm disappointed in that. Am I disappointed Zion Williamson isn't playing?

815
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: Of course I am but for the sake of this list,

816
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: we're going to exclude them. Okay, it's guys that for

817
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: the most part we're playing. There are a few sort

818
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,240
Speaker 1: of injury exceptions in here that recently they've left. Okay,

819
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 1: makes sense. I will go through my list. If you

820
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:49,760
Speaker 1: have concerns or questions, now jump in here. The first

821
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: one at number ten on my most disappointing players so far,

822
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: I went with a second year player, which is definitely

823
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 1: the only second year player I have on my list.

824
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: He's only twenty years old. For out loud, but I'm

825
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 1: going with Killian Hayes because he struggled in his rookie

826
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: season and he only played in twenty six games last year,

827
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: and I will say he's shown some improvements this year.

828
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 1: That makes sense. Again, he's got less than forty games

829
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: under his belt. He's not turning the ball over as much.

830
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: He's knocking down his threes at a decent clip. He

831
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: doesn't take a lot of them, but at thirty eight percent.

832
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: But Killian Hayes's averaging six points per game while shooting

833
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: thirty percent from the field, and he just struggles to

834
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: score in and around the paint. He is shooting thirteen

835
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: percent from three to ten feet. That's crazy. So it's

836
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: just sort of wild. I still have hope in him. Again,

837
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: I want to make that very clear that I really

838
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: think he could turn into like a very poor man's

839
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: version of like a Lonzo Ball or something like that.

840
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: He's only twenty, he's barely played, but I had I

841
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 1: thought he would come out after the injury of last year.

842
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,959
Speaker 1: I thought he would be a more impressively to start

843
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: this season. So that's why I have him here. Again,

844
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: it's a bit of a weird one with a second

845
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: year player, but it's just like, ugh, it's yeah, it's

846
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: not amazing Offensively, there's some improvements.

847
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 5: No, I mean, when you're the seventh pick on a

848
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 5: bad team, you know you expect to see sort of

849
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 5: an impact. But again, it does come back to just

850
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 5: he can't get out on the court and stay out there,

851
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,879
Speaker 5: which is what we need to see is thirty five

852
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 5: game stretch where he's playing every night, and maybe there'll

853
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 5: be some improvement there. But yeah, he certainly hasn't lived

854
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 5: up to that billing yet of being a seventh overall

855
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 5: pick in the draft.

856
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 4: Okay, well this is what I think skeates. You be

857
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 4: Killy on you b Killy and't I understand where you're

858
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,959
Speaker 4: watching him play. The predicament that Dwyane Casey now has

859
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 4: is let Killy and Hayes run the offense or give

860
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 4: it to Keid. I think that's what ain't.

861
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: No debate happened.

862
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 6: Debate Kid is turning it on and Kelly and Hayes

863
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 6: I think is going to perhaps be best served as

864
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,439
Speaker 6: a backup long term for the Pistons as possible. Okay,

865
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 6: number nine, we got a star player here. A lot

866
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,919
Speaker 6: of people figured he'd be on this list, Bradley Beal.

867
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,439
Speaker 6: Now I have them sort of low on my list

868
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 6: here because they are doing well. The Wizards, you know,

869
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 6: as we talked about there with Dan, I mean, they're

870
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 6: at the top of the East. They're doing it without

871
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 6: him or even when he was in there and struggling.

872
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 6: But Beal's played in ten games Lee twenty three, six

873
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 6: and six, So you're like, okay, you know, you round

874
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 6: up a little bit.

875
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: Those are good numbers. But he's shooting sub forty one

876
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 1: percent from the floor, an eye opening twenty five percent

877
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: from three on nearly six and a half attempts per game.

878
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 1: And yes, he has excuses. He had the left hamstring issues,

879
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 1: personal reasons he's left the team over the last couple

880
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 1: two more than the death of his grandmother. But it's

881
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: just weird to see a guy that's, you know, just

882
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: a bucket that has always been pretty damn consistent just

883
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: struggles so much. And it's even weirder that they're winning.

884
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess that's the great thing for Wizards fans,

885
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: as we've talked about, like, wow, if this guy suddenly

886
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: unlocks his potential that we know he can that the

887
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: levels that we know he can reach, then Jesus, the

888
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 1: sky might be the limit for this Wizards team. But

889
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: it's weird. He's had a rough start.

890
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, you might see the red flag emoji if they

891
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 5: were losing, if they were three intend instead where it

892
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 5: might be here.

893
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: Every trade Bradley build, trade Bradley bil truly.

894
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, But the fact is the Wizards are better, so

895
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 5: I think they'll take this sort of you know offset

896
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 5: at the moment where it's like, Okay, bieb will probably

897
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 5: get better as the season goes on and as he

898
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 5: feels healthier in those legs, but for now, we're winning.

899
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 5: We're not relying heavily on him, and certainly they're playing

900
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 5: a better style than they played last year when it

901
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 5: was just he and Westbrook basically going out there and

902
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 5: doing everything. Now they've got contributors across the board there,

903
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 5: so I think the Wizards are probably okay with it

904
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 5: right now.

905
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: At number eight on my list, they had to have

906
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 1: a Raptor player task. There was a couple of peg

907
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: from but I went with Precious Ature, who is the

908
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 1: starting center for the Raps. He came over in the

909
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: Lowry signing trade with Drags. He does somethings very well.

910
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: You know, he takes care of the glass, he plays

911
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: hard on defense. Unfortunately, if you've watched Raptors games, this

912
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: guy he thinks he's Draymond Green in transition and he

913
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,959
Speaker 1: is not. That he is not. It's just weird. He's

914
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 1: like he's somehow, this incredible six foot eight super athlete

915
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: that is somehow shooting under thirty five percent from the floor.

916
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 1: That's really weird. Those are the type of numbers you

917
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: see from a guard sometimes that can't hit a shot

918
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: because they're working from the perimeter and it just won't drop.

919
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,439
Speaker 1: It's another thing to see it from a big guy

920
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: at thirty five percent, and I think I was drinking

921
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: the kool aid. I was very high on him, you know,

922
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: for the raptors of getting him for quote unquote nothing.

923
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: You know you're gonna lose Lowry, you do the sign

924
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: and trade. Oh wow, Young Piece and Precious and Ken

925
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: Birch is like outplayed them significantly this year. I don't

926
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: know if you have thoughts on Precious. I know a

927
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: lot of people are like, what about Chris Bouchet too, Yeah,

928
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 1: you could throw him in there too as well.

929
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 4: I think Precious is one of those guys for me

930
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,240
Speaker 4: that kind of talked his reputation into existence on social

931
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 4: media when he blocked Kevin Durant in a pre Olympics

932
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 4: game he was playing for Nigeria. Well, Katie obviously planned

933
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 4: for you say, and he put it on Instagram and

934
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,439
Speaker 4: he's showing the world that he was able to block

935
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 4: one of the best players in the world. He reeled

936
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 4: me in, of course you trade for this guy. The

937
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 4: confidence on this guy, and it's, yeah, it's killing him

938
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 4: a little bit because he's a little too overconfident. He's

939
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 4: doing a little too much on the floor.

940
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but at the same time.

941
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 4: It's you know, Beal's obviously a different stratosphere of player.

942
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 4: But I can take the lumps watching this team, them

943
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 4: being seven and eight when they had an over under

944
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 4: number of thirty five and a half wins to start

945
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 4: the season. I'm okay with it because you just want

946
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 4: to see.

947
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 3: What he is.

948
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 4: I know some experts like John Hollinder said, why the

949
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 4: heck are you training Kyle Lowry for pressures chewing Gordon

950
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:44,919
Speaker 4: dragons when you could just use that money to sign

951
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 4: somebody else as part of your salary cap. Sometimes I

952
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 4: watch that, I think, yeah, you're right, But if you

953
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 4: can reel him in, you can be Trey Kirby on

954
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 4: the water and you can reel him in a little bit,

955
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 4: why can't he be a contributor that's extremely solid on vow.

956
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 4: It's just the over confidence is and a little too

957
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 4: much leash right now. I think I think Nurse knows

958
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 4: what he's doing, though I assume, you know, make your

959
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 4: mistakes now while we don't have the crazy expectations, and

960
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 4: we'll figure it out a little bit later.

961
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 1: Yeah. Again, I just want to make it clear. I'm

962
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,240
Speaker 1: not saying trade these guys, get him out of the league.

963
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: I'm just saying they've disappointed so far. Trey, I don't

964
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: think it's crazy to say Precious is on the list.

965
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,959
Speaker 6: I think you're exactly right. He just needs a little

966
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 6: bit of a recalibration. I think he's shooting forty four

967
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 6: percent from zero to three feet.

968
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:28,439
Speaker 1: That doesn't make sense.

969
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 6: He should be living in the lane, but also shooting

970
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 6: eighteen percent from three and Precious to Chewa is the

971
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 6: player who drives me most crazy because when the Bulls

972
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 6: played the Raptors, he hit a three pointer and he

973
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 6: got Nikolovucevic indy air on a pump fake for a

974
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 6: three pointer. I'm like, he's made three three pointers the

975
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 6: entire season. I remember two of these serious moments. But

976
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 6: he still wants to take him. I know he's not

977
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 6: a huge guy for a center, he's only listed at

978
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 6: six eight, but he is a good athlete and he

979
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 6: should be in the lane more often than he should

980
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 6: be outside of the lane.

981
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like all these guys on this, I'm sure

982
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: he will figure it out. Give him more opportunity there

983
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: with raps Okay, number seven, I'll admit this guy sort

984
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: of went under the radar for me. So shout out

985
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: to somebody who suggested this name on Twitter because they

986
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: did a little crowdsourcing for most disappointing players. Jordan Clarkson

987
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: raigning six Man of the Year. He's nicknamed the Flamethrower,

988
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 1: which I didn't know about. Had saw that on Basketball Reference.

989
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 1: It was like, what does anybody called it? But okay, yeah,

990
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: he is just struggling to be that instant offense this year.

991
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: He's shooting thirty six percent on about fifteen shots per

992
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: game in just twenty five minutes. Because he comes, you know,

993
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: comes off the bench lely. His role is to let

994
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 1: it fire away, and he's just he's not doing all

995
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,919
Speaker 1: that well at that particular skill set this year. He's

996
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 1: only hit thirty four to three pointers this season on

997
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty six attempts. That's twenty five percent

998
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: from deep, and that becomes a real problem when nearly

999
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,479
Speaker 1: sixty five percent of your shot attempts are from three.

1000
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: I mean, that's all he does, and he'll get it going.

1001
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: He's had a couple of good games. He played o

1002
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: Ky last night, I'd say in the win over the Sixers.

1003
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: But I just kept thinking Joe Ingles was the one

1004
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: off the Jazz bench, having like a really quiet year.

1005
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: I said that to him. I remember Lee at one

1006
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: point earlier in the year, and you know again, I

1007
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: really did a little deep dave On Clarkson going, Oh, yeah,

1008
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 1: he's just he's really taking this lou Williams Jamal Craft

1009
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: rule to hurt, right. It's like, you're gonna have monster

1010
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: games and you're gonna have some stretches where you just

1011
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: can't hit a shot.

1012
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's looking like a j R. Smith right now,

1013
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 5: where his game hasn't really changed from last season. He's

1014
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 5: playing that same role in the same way.

1015
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 2: It's just fun. Yeah, exactly, because.

1016
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 5: He's gonna he is going to have a stretch where

1017
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 5: he probably catches fire yea, you know, and really does

1018
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 5: win a few games. In fact, you could say he

1019
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,240
Speaker 5: probably won the game for the Jazz here against Atlanta

1020
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 5: in that third quarter. He couldn't hit a shot in

1021
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 5: the first half, and then I think he finished with.

1022
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty two. I think it was I can't quite remember.

1023
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 5: But that's the thing is he doesn't actually his confidence

1024
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 5: doesn't wane, his shot selection doesn't wane. Nothing about his

1025
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 5: game really changes. It's just some days they go in.

1026
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 5: Some days they don't and those stretches can last for

1027
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 5: a few games. But he has been a little bit

1028
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 5: disappointing considering he is the reigning six Man of the Year.

1029
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 4: Make it Wane Jordan, make it rain.

1030
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: At number six on my list, I'm going Malik Beasley.

1031
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: Here's where I'm at with him, and I feel like,

1032
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: here we go, here we go. The idea of Malik

1033
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: Beasley a basketball player is so much better than the

1034
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: reality of Malik Beasley a basketball player. It just is.

1035
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: And I've been, I've been, I've been duped because I've

1036
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: thought many times, this guy, well, this guy's something special.

1037
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: You know, he's a classic three and D guy. But

1038
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: is he because he can't really hit a three, and

1039
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: I think he's sort of overrated defensively. Uh So, I

1040
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: don't know what to make of him. Beasley, He's played

1041
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: in thirty seven games for the Wolves last season, and

1042
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 1: he was scoring like just a shade under twenty points

1043
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: per game. Okay, pretty good. And it got like to

1044
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: the point where I'm like talking myself out of like

1045
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: a D'Angelo Russell and Malik Beasley for like a Ben Simmons.

1046
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 1: You know, those trade rumors going around, Is that too

1047
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 1: much is Beasley too good?

1048
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 4: No?

1049
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: The answer is an emphatic no. I mean the Wolves

1050
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 1: would do that in a heartbeat, that trade. The problem

1051
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: is I don't think the uh the Sixers would. But

1052
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 1: Beasley is averaging nine points per game. His shooting splits

1053
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: thirty two, thirty and fifty fifty. Yeah, not good at

1054
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: the line. Huh No, No, I mean he doesn't get

1055
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: there a lot, but uh yeah, it's uh, I know trade,

1056
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: am I? Am I off there? I know you've talked

1057
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,880
Speaker 1: about this with guys before, like, we love the idea

1058
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: of this player, but sometimes the results don't back that up.

1059
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: Do you think that's true with Beasley or am I

1060
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: being too harsh?

1061
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 6: I think it's a little of both. The guy has

1062
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 6: shot the ball well in his career. He was thirty

1063
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,240
Speaker 6: nine percent last year, thirty eight the year before, forty

1064
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 6: before that, thirty eight for his career.

1065
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: That's three point shooting.

1066
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 6: And we've seen him have some decent game for the

1067
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 6: timber Wolves, for the Nuggets in the past. But all

1068
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 6: things considered, I think he's just the guy, and you know,

1069
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 6: just the guy whose nickname is the Mutant Belief, the Mutant.

1070
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 1: He's just the guy.

1071
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 6: There's a lot of players in the NBA who are

1072
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 6: just the guy, but sometimes you can talk yourself into

1073
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:19,959
Speaker 6: being something more than a guy.

1074
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 1: Is just a guy? Okay, anything to add on Beasley

1075
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: there tasks you think it's fair to include him on

1076
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 1: my top ten list? Here disappointing so far.

1077
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 4: It is because you wrote him when he was on

1078
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 4: the Denver Nuggets. He's thought that he was better than

1079
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 4: he was and he goes to Minnesota Timberwolves and he

1080
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 4: scores twenty points a freaking game. Yeah, so yeah, you're

1081
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 4: allowed to talk about it. Maybe his role change from

1082
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 4: last year to this year has played a part. He

1083
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 4: was a starter and now he's not, so that may,

1084
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 4: you know, may have an effect. As Chris Finch, head coach,

1085
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 4: there's trying to get more balance in their lineups. We

1086
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 4: have Dangel Russell, we have Karl Anthony Towns, and we

1087
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 4: haven't Edwards. Maybe gotta throw some d's in there, some

1088
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 4: defensive guys. So maybe that happened. He also was in

1089
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 4: jail for two and a half months this past offseason

1090
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 4: and maybe that had an effect on how he came

1091
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 4: into yep, how he came into this season. So yeah,

1092
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 4: maybe maybe he's just not right. Maybe he wasn't training

1093
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 4: all that hard in prison. I'm not sure. So things

1094
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 4: aren't going too well for him. Yeah, I I was

1095
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 4: excited about that as well. But yeah, he's been a

1096
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 4: different player. I mean, he just looks like a different

1097
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 4: I know, he's just a guy, as Trey said, but

1098
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 4: I don't know, a twenty point guy. Maybe he can

1099
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 4: bounce back next season. I don't know if it's coming

1100
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 4: this season.

1101
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 6: As Graham Barker says, he's just the guy standing in

1102
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 6: front of a girl trying to get her to call

1103
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 6: me the mutants.

1104
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 4: The mutants.

1105
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 1: Maybe mutant into a guy who can shoot the ball?

1106
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 1: Oh got him? Nice?

1107
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1108
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: Okay? Has Malik Beasley been called the mutant more than

1109
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: Jordan Clarkson has been called the Flamethrower?

1110
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 6: Sounds like the worst Avengers that you could possibly make.

1111
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: All right, Well, we got another nickname here. Jared Jackson

1112
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,720
Speaker 1: Junior is number five on my list of disappointing players.

1113
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: We were excited for triple j oh weren't we Entering

1114
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 1: his fourth year in the league. He's finally healthy, He's

1115
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: on a talented young team, he's got an identified role,

1116
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: he's got a fat new one. Hundred million dollar extension,

1117
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: his preseason numbers. I saw tweets about his preseason numbers.

1118
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: Ready for the breakout, baby, here we go. And after

1119
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: fourteen games offensively, because he's okay on the defensive end. Offensively,

1120
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 1: it's a big mech for Jackson Junior. Again, he's shooting

1121
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: the league average from deep, but just thirty eight percent overall,

1122
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: and he's a seven footer. We were just again, I

1123
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,959
Speaker 1: think we were very excited. He'll probably get it going.

1124
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: The Grizzlies are okay, but Lee, I think we thought, Okay,

1125
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: here we go. Here's gonna be the leap from him.

1126
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: And offensively, again, I like what he does on the

1127
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: defensive end. Offensively, he's he just hasn't been able to

1128
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 1: score enough.

1129
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 5: No, he hasn't, and the Grizzlies crumbling, I think Zilla

1130
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 5: wrote in his morning newsletter this morning, because obviously Ja

1131
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 5: Moran has been incredible in the MVP conversation somewhat, but

1132
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 5: outside of him, they just don't have all that much.

1133
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 5: And Jaron Jackson, you're right, they gave him the big contract,

1134
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,879
Speaker 5: they believe in him. But he's the most six foot three,

1135
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 5: seven footer I think there's been in the NBA. He

1136
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 5: just does not play like No, But.

1137
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: I don't dare you say that?

1138
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 3: Lee?

1139
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: How dare you say that?

1140
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 6: Because they was going to say he's the new Kristaps

1141
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 6: porzingis right to it because he's being a poorzingis out

1142
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 6: there often the biggest guy on the court for the Grizzlies,

1143
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 6: and he's getting five point seven rebounds per game. He

1144
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 6: just hangs out on the perimeter and wants the shoot

1145
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 6: threes and that's about it. I expected a lot more.

1146
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 6: The defense I don't think has been good enough to

1147
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,280
Speaker 6: counteract how much of a step back he's taken on offense.

1148
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he's never been a great rebounder for his height,

1149
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 5: And I just wonder if that Grizzlies coaching staff needs

1150
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 5: to say to him, when you're that tall and athletic

1151
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 5: and long, get down and you've got to be getting

1152
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 5: eight nine rebounds a game. You just have to be

1153
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 5: We need that from you because their defense is atrocious

1154
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 5: and a part of that is the rebounding. So you know,

1155
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 5: if he's not going to really excel on the offensive end,

1156
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 5: then he needs to be able to do some more

1157
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 5: on the defensive end.

1158
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1159
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 5: Grizzly season started off. I mean it was fell in

1160
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 5: love with the Grizzlies though great, and they still are

1161
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 5: fun to watch with Morant, but I just don't think

1162
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 5: there's a whole lot of substance under what they've got

1163
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 5: there right now. They need to improve drastically, mostly on

1164
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:24,280
Speaker 5: the defensive end.

1165
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: All right, at number four on my list, getting into

1166
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: the real sort of borderline all star type players or

1167
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:33,439
Speaker 1: all star type players. Hurts my heart to see this name,

1168
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 1: but Deeran Fox has been disappointing. And I love me

1169
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 1: some Kentucky guards. You guys know that Booker and Sga

1170
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: and Tyler Herro.

1171
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 2: The college head right here, Oh.

1172
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,439
Speaker 1: Huge college hoops college hoops head. I remember that game

1173
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: Dan was talking about. Actually that Standford again. Yeah, Star

1174
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: Fox last year twenty five, seven and four, and he

1175
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: had some like brilliant individual moments on a shooting team.

1176
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: But this year Fox is averaging under twenty points per game.

1177
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: He's shooting forty one percent from the field and a

1178
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 1: wtf twenty three percent from deep. Getting very concerned about

1179
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 1: the three point shooting because I think it was in

1180
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: his second year where he was like thirty seven percent

1181
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 1: from distance. Aaron's like, wow, that's great above average. That's

1182
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: awesome from your point guard, you know, being the probably

1183
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: the fastest guy in the league, and you have like

1184
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: a you have a three point shot that you have

1185
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 1: to like respect as a defender man. That's just going

1186
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: to allow him to blow bye people even more. But

1187
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: since Denley, I don't have in front of me, but

1188
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: I know it's fallen off a cliff and he can't

1189
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: find it, so that's bad. His free throw attempts have dropped,

1190
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 1: the turnovers have ticked up a little bit. I just

1191
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: think when I watch him, he generally seems to be

1192
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: playing in a bit of a fog. He's had one

1193
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: monster game from what I can recall, and it was

1194
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: like in a nineteen point loss to the Spurs. It's weird.

1195
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,919
Speaker 1: I think he has one dunk this season, Like it's

1196
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: just like there hasn't been a lot of Fox highlights

1197
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:03,439
Speaker 1: and or great games. Task So again, it hurts hurts

1198
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 1: me to say it, but he's He's definitely on my

1199
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: top ten most disappointing players this season so far.

1200
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 4: It's a puzzle this de Aaron Fox start, because I

1201
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,919
Speaker 4: don't know he just he would shoot him himself out

1202
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 4: of this funk, you would think, But it just hasn't

1203
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 4: happened yet. When's it gonna happen. It can't go away,

1204
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 4: it can't He'll be back.

1205
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 6: I don't think he's going to be able to shoot

1206
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 6: himself out of this one. The guy's a seventy percent

1207
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 6: free throw shooter. That's not great for a guard. He

1208
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 6: was thirty two percent from three last year, and that

1209
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,959
Speaker 6: was an improvement from twenty nine percent the year before.

1210
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 6: Right now he's at twenty three percent. We call him

1211
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 6: the fastest player in the league, and usually when you're

1212
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 6: the fastest player in the league, you're not the best shooter.

1213
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 6: That's been the case for John Wall, that's been the

1214
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 6: case for Russell Westbrook. There have been many players who

1215
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 6: come through and we just say, oh, they can get

1216
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 6: this jumper right, with that speed, they're going to be unstoppable.

1217
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 6: But I don't foresee him suddenly developing a jumper.

1218
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 1: All right, Sorry, no, just yeah.

1219
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 5: Season was the year where you thought, you know, the

1220
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 5: twenty five and eight there was All Star bars. It's like, yeah,

1221
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 5: this guy has found it, and it doesn't appear to

1222
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 5: be the case. And I just want to refer back

1223
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 5: to the Sam Amic article yesterday in The Athletic that

1224
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 5: the connection there between Fox and Halliburton appears to be

1225
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 5: problematic for Sacramento on top of everything else. And I

1226
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,720
Speaker 5: think those are the two players that are the least

1227
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 5: likely to be traded from Sacramento. I think it's Buddy

1228
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 5: or Harrison Barnes first. So that presents another problem for

1229
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 5: Sacramento is how do you figure out a way to

1230
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 5: get these guys working together? Because on paper and the

1231
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 5: eye test is like, this is a decent backcourt but

1232
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,760
Speaker 5: hasn't translated yet two one court success. But yeah, Fox

1233
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 5: doesn't seem to have that same pep in his step

1234
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 5: this season that he's had in the past where he's

1235
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,479
Speaker 5: trying to initiate that offense and get it movie because

1236
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,319
Speaker 5: he is so fast. But if he can't knock down

1237
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 5: that three consistently or get to the free throw line,

1238
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 5: then his offensive game isn't going to be able to

1239
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 5: flourish as the way it could be.

1240
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: And number three on my last json tetum, mister twelve

1241
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: time probably got twelve time the amount of votes for

1242
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: most disappointing player. On my informal Twitter poll, there was

1243
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 1: a lot of votes for Jason Tatum. I think it

1244
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: makes sense. This guy appeared headed for a seat at

1245
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: the MVP table after last year's performance and his career

1246
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: up to this point, and instead he got lost on

1247
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,280
Speaker 1: the way to the restaurant, Lee, did you not text

1248
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: them the directions or where we were sitting in the

1249
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: restaurant because he's not there. He really is in his

1250
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 1: shooting splits have cratered. Yeah, we're in the back, Jason,

1251
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:29,720
Speaker 1: we're in the back corner.

1252
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1253
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: No, don't worry, you got time. The pizza is gonna

1254
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: be another eight hours. But Tatum is shooting sub thirty

1255
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: nine percent from the floor, sub thirty two percent from

1256
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: deep on eight attempts per game, and he's even sort

1257
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: of struggling at the line for him, some sub seventy

1258
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: seven percent at the line, which is shockingly lower than

1259
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 1: his career numbers. There, so that's weird if you watch them,

1260
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: he is just trying to do too much in isolation,

1261
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 1: and the numbers back that up. Lee. I went and checked.

1262
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: He's putting up the lowest percentage of field goals assisted

1263
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: in his career, which to me, you watch it, you know,

1264
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: it's a lot of like I can get my shot,

1265
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: so don't worry about too much ball movement. I will

1266
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: maybe take a pic and then I'll get the switch

1267
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 1: and then I'll go to work and I'll ISO and

1268
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 1: I'll more times than that. This year at least takes

1269
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: sort of a difficult shot and struggle it right now

1270
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 1: because these are bad, bad shooting percentage for a guy

1271
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 1: that was an All NBA guy two years ago, could

1272
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 1: have been it last year has been an All Star,

1273
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,839
Speaker 1: looks like a franchise guy and is don't get me wrong,

1274
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: but he's he's got off to a bad, bad start

1275
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 1: here to the season.

1276
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1277
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 5: I just don't like the construction of this roster in

1278
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 5: Boston either. I just think that part of the reason

1279
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 5: he has to do so much is because it's just

1280
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 5: weirdly built, you know, with Marcus Smart and true to

1281
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 5: their as your backcourt, and then they've got Al Horford

1282
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 5: back who's actually having a decent season, but it doesn't

1283
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 5: really seem to highlight tatum skills as much. And of

1284
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 5: course Jaylen Brown is out as well, so that does

1285
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 5: add even more of a workload there to Tatum. I

1286
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 5: believe he will be much better than he's playing right now.

1287
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 5: He will shake it off but his efficiency is down,

1288
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 5: and yeah, he does seem to be just having to

1289
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 5: do everything for Boston to get generate their offense. So

1290
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 5: I think he's better than that, but certainly to stop

1291
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 5: the season, he has been struggling.

1292
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: At number two. I have Michael Porter Junior here now.

1293
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: He's out for the foreseeable future with back injuries, and

1294
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: they may have played a part in his rough start.

1295
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: We're not one hundred percent sure on that. But he

1296
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: played nine games after he signed on the dotted line

1297
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: tray for five year max contract extension that's going to

1298
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: pay him between one hundred and seventy two million and

1299
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: possibly two hundred and seven million, though that's looking less

1300
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: likely with being an incentive based deal there. But he

1301
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: was a lot of people's pick for most improved player

1302
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 1: a ton and that made sense after you saw what

1303
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: he did in the playoffs last year. He averaged like

1304
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: seventeen and six. You know, Jamal Murray's out, you think

1305
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: he's going to step up there, get more opportunity to

1306
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: play alongside Yo Kich and you know, you look at

1307
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: his game log and he's now out of the lineup.

1308
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: Like I said, but it's like it's disgusting. Like his

1309
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: best game was Opening Night, he had fifteen points on

1310
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,439
Speaker 1: ten shots. It was his best game. Like by far,

1311
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: he's averaging nine point nine points per game, and his

1312
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: shooting splits they read like a fucking padlock number thirty six,

1313
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 1: twenty one and fifty six. I don't know if it

1314
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: goes up to fifty six on the padlock, but it's

1315
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: pretty close. It's uh.

1316
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, cheap padlocks, no good padlocks. Yes, forty sixty.

1317
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: You think, isn't that a good line? You know, if

1318
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 1: it is in fact correct, do they do they maybe

1319
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 1: the good ones do go up to sixty or something

1320
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: like that, But anyway, it's just, uh, it's shocking. I

1321
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: don't think probably, you guys have much to add to this.

1322
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 1: We thought he'd be better, and maybe it was the

1323
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: back because he's out now and he couldn't hit a

1324
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: shot to save his life.

1325
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 6: Well, I think that's why this makes Michael Porter Junior

1326
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 6: a really good one, because he was really awesome for

1327
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 6: the Nuggets after the All Star Game last year. Twenty

1328
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 6: two points per game, almost eight rebounds a game, fifty

1329
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 6: six percent from the field, forty six from three to

1330
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 6: eighty at the free throw line. The guy was almost

1331
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 6: fifty forty ninety last year, so coming into this season,

1332
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 6: you're seeing he's struggling. But if the excuse is then that, oh,

1333
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 6: he's had a back injury this whole time, that's not

1334
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 6: the excuse you want to hear if you're the Nuggets

1335
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 6: after you just signed him to a huge deal, right

1336
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 6: so you're like, Okay, maybe there's a reason for it.

1337
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 6: It would be the last reason we would possibly choose. So, yeah,

1338
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 6: tough start to the season for Michael Porter Junior. And

1339
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 6: you know, hopefully this contract doesn't turn into an albatross

1340
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 6: right away.

1341
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully not. Hopefully it comes.

1342
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 4: Back totally totally. And I said it when you know,

1343
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 4: when he got injured a couple of weeks ago, I

1344
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 4: went back and looked at that contract and wondered, is

1345
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 4: it mimicking Joel Embiid's contract, which has protections for his

1346
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 4: injuries that he'd always had, and it doesn't. And looking

1347
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 4: more into it, apparently there was some negotiation about it,

1348
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 4: but that those were the rumors, but it didn't get included.

1349
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 4: And I'm not sure if the Nuggets are going to

1350
00:59:59,920 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 4: be paying for that long term. But yeah, hopefully he

1351
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 4: gets right. I'm sure they did their due diligence anyways, medically,

1352
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:09,959
Speaker 4: as as all teams do. So hopefully he's right soon,

1353
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 4: because yeah, I mean, the guy is butter. It must

1354
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 4: be his back. I'm blaming his back.

1355
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 1: Who did you guys have for most improved? Did anybody

1356
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:18,439
Speaker 1: take Michael Porter Junior here on the show?

1357
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 4: I did?

1358
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did, I might have. I don't remember. So

1359
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 1: ago I took. I took Nikhil Alexander Walker Lea.

1360
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 2: I think I ended up taking tible. But in the

1361
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 2: NBA right right right?

1362
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, at number one on my most disappointing players

1363
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 1: to start season list here, I'm going Damian Lillard just

1364
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: because it's really weird to have a six time All Star,

1365
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: six time All NBA, a guy that was just named

1366
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: the NBA seventy fifth Anniversary Tame for crying out loud.

1367
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 1: It's really weird to have that player that we know

1368
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: turn into basically a glorified Davante Graham. That doesn't sit

1369
01:00:56,560 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 1: right with me. Facts. He's averaging twenty points six points

1370
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: per game, He's shooting thirty nine percent overall and twenty

1371
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 1: eight percent from distance, and his free throw has been

1372
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: cut in half. He just does not get there all

1373
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: that often anymore. And I don't really think that's because

1374
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 1: of like the rule changes, so to speak. It's just

1375
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. So Lillard is that number one here

1376
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: on my Leslie again just because of we know this

1377
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: guy's like a thirty point per game score and it's

1378
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: been strange to see him struggle in addition to his

1379
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 1: team not looking all that great building below five hundred.

1380
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 5: Now, yeah, he would have been my number one too,

1381
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 5: because he is much better than what we're seeing from

1382
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 5: him right now. But also there's a lot of stuff

1383
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 5: going on in Portland, a new coach, off court situation.

1384
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 5: Lillard just maybe you know, the offseason speculation about his

1385
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 5: future as well as affecting him, perhaps because this is

1386
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 5: kind of what Daryl Morey wants is as star struggling.

1387
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 5: So maybe that deal can be had. I don't think

1388
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 5: it happens, But Lillard hasn't had that, you know, that

1389
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,080
Speaker 5: ability yet to really just drag the Blazers to a

1390
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 5: few convincing victories, which we know he can do.

1391
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 2: Instead, they're kind of middling.

1392
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,439
Speaker 5: And again this is the whole reason why I've talked

1393
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 5: I want Litl to be in a different situation. It

1394
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 5: doesn't guarantee he's gonna win a championship, but I just

1395
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 5: think his time in Portland isn't going to get any

1396
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 5: better than it's been so far. And certainly the way

1397
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 5: that he's struggling so far this season makes you think

1398
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 5: that this season they're not going to be able to

1399
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 5: turn it around.

1400
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 2: They just won't. I just don't like that roster.

1401
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 5: And until he really shakes off this rust, the Blazers

1402
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 5: are going to be middling team at best.

1403
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 1: So there it is. Those are my top ten most

1404
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: disappointing players.

1405
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 3: Now.

1406
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 1: I see a lot of people in the stream team

1407
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 1: little shocked maybe that they don't have James Harden in

1408
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 1: the mix. Sure you could if you want to. I

1409
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 1: think he started to turn it on as of Elite,

1410
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 1: So I think you're sort of stuck on maybe the

1411
01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:52,280
Speaker 1: first week or two storylines there in my opinion. But yeah,

1412
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 1: he hasn't been great. He hasn't been like a top

1413
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 1: seventy five player of all time, either other names the

1414
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 1: old what about this guy? Let's do it talking Blazers

1415
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 1: or stick with Blazers. You know, I had little at

1416
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 1: number one. Nurkic has been disappointing. Could be in the mix,

1417
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 1: Clint Capella Tray. You've brought him up a number of

1418
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 1: times on this show already with the Hawks, he just

1419
01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 1: sort of seems out of it and has not played

1420
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 1: like he did last year for Atlanta for sure. No

1421
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 1: be what's that? No beefs. Yeah, no beefs.

1422
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 2: Compella.

1423
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: Duncan Robinson has struggled just with his three point shot.

1424
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a specialist and he's paid to hit threes,

1425
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 1: and and for the most part, pretty early on there,

1426
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,040
Speaker 1: he couldn't hit one, at least not to his consistency.

1427
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 1: Christian Wood got a lot of votes. I know that's

1428
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:41,959
Speaker 1: a Rockets team that no one like cares about, but yeah,

1429
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 1: you know, I looked into it. Yeah, it's disappointing. Sure,

1430
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 1: I guess I wasn't as high on Christian would maybe

1431
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 1: as some people are or were. Derek White got some

1432
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 1: votes with the Spurs. I think, you know, Dejonte Murray

1433
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 1: is blossomed into like the real young talent there, and

1434
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 1: and Derek White is sort of like sputtering a little

1435
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 1: bit Kemba Walker. There's a lot of votes for him.

1436
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 1: I mean, he's hitting threes, like it's better than any

1437
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 1: nicks Gard has given them over the last couple of years.

1438
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 1: So I didn't include him on my list. Terrence Ross

1439
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 1: another guy, you know. I just think the hope, I

1440
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 1: think the magic hope that he would like, that he

1441
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 1: would play like he did last year and then they

1442
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:23,919
Speaker 1: could trade him for something, and he just he's been bad.

1443
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 1: But any other names you guys want to throw out

1444
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 1: there that you want to say, what about this guy?

1445
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 1: He's disappointed me?

1446
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 4: A lot of good names there?

1447
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:31,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, good.

1448
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 4: I will say damis he did? I will say Dame

1449
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 4: is playing better of late. I know it's sort of

1450
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 4: under the radar, but last four or four of his

1451
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 4: last five games shooting nearly fifty forty percent or higher,

1452
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 4: which would be a career high. I think he's he's

1453
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 4: coming on, he's feeling. I was encouraged by Jason Tatum

1454
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,479
Speaker 4: to his second half against the Calves. He was more

1455
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 4: like a fulk crumb of the offense, and Jared Weiss

1456
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 4: wrote about that recently. Maybe he can be back to

1457
01:04:57,080 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 4: doing that. I'm I'm hopeful that he and you know,

1458
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 4: use all that gravity and pick up some other guys.

1459
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 4: But I'm I too I'm worried about this, this Blazer situation.

1460
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 4: What's gonna happen with Dames? So that's that's what I'm

1461
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 4: looking at. But yeah, we I don't know. I don't

1462
01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 4: know if you can name another guy there skeez he named, well.

1463
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 1: You had some good ones. Yeah, I would add Anthony Davis.

1464
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 6: I think is a is a weird ball on this one,

1465
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 6: just because he it looks like he's happy to be

1466
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 6: the number two to Lebron or to Westbrook, depending on

1467
01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 6: who's kind of leading the charge for the Lakers there.

1468
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 6: He just hasn't put his stamp on the season at

1469
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 6: this point. I had him as Defensive Player of the Year.

1470
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 6: That seems completely far fetched. At this point, both Davonte

1471
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 6: Graham and the keel Alexander Walker are shooting under forty percent,

1472
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 6: which is a large part of the Pelicans struggles. And

1473
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 6: I was kind of eyeballing Trey Young at first because

1474
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 6: he had a slow start to the season.

1475
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 1: But suddenly he's scoring more points than he did last season.

1476
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 6: So it'll be weird to me if somehow Young ends

1477
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 6: up not being an All Star again this year. He

1478
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 6: wasn't last year, but he was one of the biggest

1479
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 6: stories of the playoffs, especially against the Knicks taking the

1480
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 6: Hawks to the Eastern Conference Finals. But it's possible he

1481
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 6: doesn't make the team if he continues to not put

1482
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 6: up massive, massive numbers.

1483
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:19,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was some some love. I guess we want

1484
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 1: to call it that for being disappointing Westbrook Kevin Porter Junior.

1485
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 1: You know, this is a fun question from Sarah. Actually

1486
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 1: what kind of table do the most disappointing players get

1487
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 1: to see? That the one in the back where the

1488
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 1: legs aren't even even the servers forget about you?

1489
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think it's more one of those ones

1490
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Speaker 5: where they say we're gonna have Yeah, there's about a

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01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 5: twenty thirty minute wait for your table, and so you're

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01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:47,919
Speaker 5: sitting there and then you see like four or five

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01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:49,919
Speaker 5: other people come in and they don't have to wait.

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01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 5: They seem to get the table ahead of you, and

1495
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:53,919
Speaker 5: you're like, has this dude forgotten about me or something?

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01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 5: What's going on out here?

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01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 2: And you have to go out to the waiter and

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01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:59,560
Speaker 2: he's like, oh, yeah, how many was it? How many?

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01:06:59,560 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 3: Four?

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Speaker 4: Mmm?

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Speaker 5: Give us another fall of ten minutes. You know, you

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01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 5: dislike I overlooked there, So.

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01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's definitely near the bathroom too.

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01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 4: Yeah crotch.

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01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's horrible too. So there it does. Anyway,

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01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 1: my top ten most disappointing players. Agree or disagree, let

1507
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 1: us know. I know you already are in the stream team,

1508
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 1: but drop your comments below the video on YouTube or

1509
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 1: tweet at us at no Dunk's ink. We're gonna take

1510
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 1: one more break when we come back. Judy's got tweeted

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01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 1: the night, Got pick them results and a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere, all right back with no ducks, Let's

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Speaker 1: get to tweeted the night.

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Speaker 4: Tweet out the night Wow.

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01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:47,720
Speaker 7: Twitt Yeah, tweeted the night. This popped into my feed

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01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 7: first thing in the morning, so I was very grateful

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01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 7: and actually Skeets suggested it as well. So it comes

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01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 7: by way of Kelsey Lately Kelsey O'Brien on Twitter, Kelsey

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01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 7: underscore Lately, who retweeted from ball is Life. This player

1520
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 7: needs a nickname and this picture he's an unnamed guy.

1521
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 7: I tried to find out who it was, but he

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01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 7: has a goorious moment. It is absolutely stunning and it

1523
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 7: looks like you can play. I don't know. We're seeing

1524
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 7: some highlights from this gentleman. Here again, I have no

1525
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 7: idea what pleas for the nights? Why you know he's

1526
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:39,200
Speaker 7: uh so Kelsey had a nice little run of puns.

1527
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 7: You know how we love puns around here, so she is.

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01:08:43,479 --> 01:08:49,799
Speaker 7: She contributed Billy ray Allen, Billy ray Allen, Isaiah Joe dirt.

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01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 7: I don't really get that one.

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01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 4: I mean Isaiah player named Isaiah Joe.

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01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 7: Oh there is a player name. And then the fresh

1532
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 7: Prince of bad hair. I love that. But then and

1533
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 7: then yeah, sorry so uh and then she she followed

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01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 7: that up with I forgot ken you dueling ban. I

1535
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 7: can't can't all out of board Jesus anyways, and then

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01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 7: she was that she was trying to think of a

1537
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:23,240
Speaker 7: DeMarcus cousin one, and then I already stepped on the

1538
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:29,640
Speaker 7: joke demark kissing cousins. That's from Jay Will, and she

1539
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 7: retweeted that I'm gonna add Grant Hillbilly, Chris Mullet, Chris mullin.

1540
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 7: I don't know, does that.

1541
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 1: Work like Chris Mullett.

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01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 7: Actually yeah, it's it's pretty good. Trashy McGrady looks better

1543
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 7: on paper. I don't want it. Uh, Hulk boban like

1544
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 7: hal Cogan because he had a mullet famous thing. I

1545
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 7: know they're stretching. I start it with my best one,

1546
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 7: and I think, anyway, any any to add?

1547
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 2: What about Michael Redneck?

1548
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 4: Great?

1549
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 1: Really, it's very good.

1550
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 4: I like this.

1551
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 6: If he ever makes it to the NBA and gets

1552
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 6: a basketball reference page, he will be known as the

1553
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 6: mullet Mamba.

1554
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:19,719
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's pretty good. Yeah for sure.

1555
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 7: Anyway, there was one other, one other thing that caught

1556
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 7: my eye on Twitter this morning, and I saw that

1557
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 7: daylight savings time still trending November seventh, like this a

1558
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 7: week and a half ago.

1559
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:40,639
Speaker 1: People are remember some lighth what what November seven?

1560
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 7: It's November seventeenth, but November seventh is when daylight Savings

1561
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 7: time happened. And look at all this.

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01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:48,600
Speaker 1: Why am I?

1563
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 7: This is from this morning? And I just grabbed like

1564
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 7: a whole bunch of them. You know, daylight Savings has

1565
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 7: me dead tired at six thirty pm. You know, not

1566
01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 7: a fan of daylight savings. Daylight Savings whipping my ass,

1567
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:05,519
Speaker 7: blah blah blah blah blah. Guys, Daylight Savings ended. It

1568
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 7: ended on November seventh, ten days ago. So you're complaining

1569
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 7: about time right now? Just regular time. I'm sorry, it

1570
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 7: gets dark. I prefer it. I prefer it you fall back,

1571
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:24,679
Speaker 7: you get the extra hour. But you're like, honestly, we're

1572
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 7: not gonna be okay. Do we just not.

1573
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 2: Gonna be okay?

1574
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 3: This?

1575
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, hold on.

1576
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 1: You prefer getting dark at five thirty? Yeah, here you do?

1577
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 7: Why because I get up at fucking five thirty in

1578
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:39,760
Speaker 7: the morning and it's light. It's nice. You're an early Well,

1579
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 7: it's like it's seasons. Man, it gets dark and it's

1580
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 7: darker for longer in the wintertime. I mean, honestly, and fine,

1581
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,599
Speaker 7: complain about it. The two days you get two days okay,

1582
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:55,799
Speaker 7: two days yeah, one days later do you get.

1583
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 2: One day of daylight? Saving complain like, oh man, daylight?

1584
01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, Like you said, Jay, it's time, right, I

1585
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 5: complain about.

1586
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:09,440
Speaker 7: Time brutal anyway, that's it. Sorry, Sorry for the.

1587
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:12,720
Speaker 1: A lot of people you agree with you. Yeah, you've

1588
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 1: been a temper boy, no doubt.

1589
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:17,439
Speaker 4: Is there a possibility there's somewhere in the world where

1590
01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 4: they change this weekend. It's possible.

1591
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 7: But I checked some of these profiles. They're in LA. Yeah,

1592
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 7: they're like, what do you complain about? There're one guy

1593
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 7: is from Iowa.

1594
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 1: Complaining about it getting dark early. That's what they're complaining about,

1595
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 1: as if it's the first.

1596
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 2: Time this has happened.

1597
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 1: Well, right, right, that's the silly part. But you know,

1598
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 1: you're right. The first couple of days, it's a little

1599
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 1: shocking to your system. It feels like ten o'clock at

1600
01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 1: night and you're like, wait, it's somehow it's only six o'clock, Like,

1601
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 1: what's going on here? But ten days later, if you

1602
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 1: haven't adjusted, then yeah.

1603
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 5: If a four year old's going like, man, it used

1604
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 5: to get light later, and what's happened, you say, well,

1605
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 5: this is just the way it is in the world.

1606
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 5: They've got a reason to be like, oh okay, anyone

1607
01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:59,520
Speaker 5: who's old enough to have a Twitter account will be online.

1608
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:03,439
Speaker 5: They've been through enough summers and winters to understand. Oh yeah,

1609
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 5: it gets lighter at some point of the year, and

1610
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,559
Speaker 5: it gets darker at the opposite end of the year.

1611
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 2: That's it. That's the way it goes. It's been that

1612
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 2: way forever.

1613
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 7: The seasons you ever heard of them?

1614
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:23,600
Speaker 2: Why did they call it four anyone?

1615
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 5: Hey, that's while we're on it. I'll never forget. Oh

1616
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 5: my buddy grish in Vegas. We're in Vegas for summer leg.

1617
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 5: He goes if anyone complains about the weather in Vegas

1618
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 5: in July, Oh it's a dray.

1619
01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 4: There's no ship.

1620
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 2: What were you expecting out here?

1621
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 3: Wow?

1622
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 1: Man, okay, anything else? You're on fire? Right, Hey, it's

1623
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 1: our last show.

1624
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 2: Make a go Oh that's right, Yeah, yeah, make it

1625
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 2: a good one. Go out with a bang.

1626
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:55,639
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. Great stuff. Judy fun tweets picking results

1627
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 1: brought to you by bet n GM from last night.

1628
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:00,160
Speaker 1: It was a Warrior's Nets game. Brooklyn was favorite by

1629
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 1: two and a half. I took them and I lost.

1630
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 1: Warriors hammered them, as we talked about with Dan Grunfeld there,

1631
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 1: especially in the third quarter. Just crushed them. So that's

1632
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,000
Speaker 1: a win for all of you guys except for me.

1633
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 1: Tasses nine and three. Really tidy little record here. In

1634
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 1: the month of November, Lee improved a seven and five

1635
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 1: trace back to five hundred and I am five and seven.

1636
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 1: So I am a game behind TK two behind Lee.

1637
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:28,759
Speaker 1: There are a lot of games on again. Tonight's tasks.

1638
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:29,760
Speaker 1: Where are we going?

1639
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:33,680
Speaker 4: I thought this one was a very difficult one. It's

1640
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 4: a close line. The Sacramento Kings and their tumultuous situation

1641
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 4: visiting the Minnesota Timberwolves and their tumultuous situation. The Wolves

1642
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 4: are favored by one and a half points, though at home,

1643
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 4: and three of us riding with the home squad. I

1644
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:53,200
Speaker 4: suppose because how we have them skeets, myself and Lee

1645
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:56,480
Speaker 4: are taking the Wolves to bounce back after that disappointing

1646
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 4: loss of the Phoenix Suns where they were up late,

1647
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 4: and Trey taking the King who were able to give

1648
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 4: Luke Walton another day in the sun. So good luck

1649
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 4: to the Kings and to the Wolves.

1650
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 3: There you go.

1651
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 1: It's a Fox versus Beasley and the disappointment to have

1652
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:20,080
Speaker 1: a better game that might decide who wins today.

1653
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 6: This game has major play in implications down the line.

1654
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 6: Hopefully we get a leak from the Kings saying Luke

1655
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 6: Walton doesn't win this game, he's going to be fired

1656
01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:30,759
Speaker 6: because that's.

1657
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 1: When they play their absolute best. But I am a

1658
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:33,719
Speaker 1: little worried.

1659
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:36,639
Speaker 6: You know, the sun goes down earlier, a lot more

1660
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 6: time for howling for those.

1661
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:43,840
Speaker 1: Wolves, especially further up north. Yeah, yeah, that's right, all right, guys,

1662
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 1: we'll call it there. Thanks again to our guest Dan

1663
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:49,920
Speaker 1: Grunfeld for coming on emailing your questions both NBA and

1664
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 1: non NBA related to no Dunks at the Athletic dot Com.

1665
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 1: Go get yourself some no Dunks merch, especially with the

1666
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 1: holidays right around the corner. Go to No Dunks dot

1667
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 1: com or Breaking Tea dot com slash no dunks if

1668
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Speaker 1: you want to go that way as well. Get yourself

1669
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 1: an athletic subscription or get one for your friends for

1670
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 1: the holiday season. Go to the Athletic dot Com slash

1671
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 1: no dunk. Speaking of the athletic task, you got a

1672
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 1: little something special coming up here? In what like thirty minutes?

1673
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 3: Do you not?

1674
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 1: You want to explain that for the people out there,

1675
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 1: especially in the stream team at.

1676
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 4: Least thirty minutes. I hope it's thirty minutes. You guys

1677
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 4: talking time zones got me worried. I'm jumping on with

1678
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 4: Jason Quick, Blazer's beat writer who's covered the team forever,

1679
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:28,800
Speaker 4: to talk about everything going on off the floor and

1680
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 4: on the floor as well with Damian Lillard. Obviously the

1681
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 4: investigation going into Neil Olshe a lot going on with

1682
01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 4: the Blazers. So yeah, thirty minutes jump on live audio

1683
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:40,680
Speaker 4: room on the Athletic.

1684
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 1: It's on the Athletic app. Okay, yeah, so make sure

1685
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:44,640
Speaker 1: you have that and then you'll see task there with

1686
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:49,719
Speaker 1: Blazer's beat reporter Jason Quick. That's at noon eastern here,

1687
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 1: but what is time really?

1688
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 4: Sure?

1689
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 1: Yeah? Who knows? Well, great last show, guys, we'll do

1690
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 1: it again tomorrow. Till there, Clipper Rose, you heard it

1691
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 1: here first. Have a great time, turn up. Love you

1692
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:03,480
Speaker 1: guys awesome.

1693
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us. And remember it is our final show,

1694
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 4: so might as well go out with a bang. I'm

1695
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 4: just gonna howl. I think it's the best way to

1696
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 4: go up.

1697
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 1: Embrace the day.

1698
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 3: People.

1699
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 4: You could stay boo every day and.

1700
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 3: Dan you happy every minute.

1701
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 7: It's been so long that your monna wayfo.

1702
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 4: It's happened already. It's gonna be grevy