1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stupidity, home of the greatest media mind ever 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: to walk the planet. Okay, sure, here's the deal. 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 2: He's a true icon in every sense. 4 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 3: Of the word. 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: He's loved and feared more than any being to Grace's planet. 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 1: There's got a man with a voice that sounds like 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: Erry White and be got to say, Hey, let's do it, baby, 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: God himself would pay thirty nine ninety nine for a cameo. 9 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: Fact of the matter is, you are about to embark 10 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: on a transcendent experience that can only be described as 11 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: psychological nudity. This is Stu GOTX and this is Stupidity. 12 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: Here we go, Jim to. 13 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 4: Welcome into another episode of Stupotody, the biggest podcast in 14 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 4: the world, and one of the final episodes of Stupotody, 15 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 4: as we are going to rebrand this thing very very soon. 16 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 4: Mikey A, you are a big of Stupidity. We'll have 17 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 4: more information for you on that in the coming days 18 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 4: and weeks here. But Mikey ed, are you sad that 19 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 4: stupidity is going away something that you were a big 20 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 4: part of. 21 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 2: I am a little sad. 22 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 5: I mean, there's nothing like trying to impress people like 23 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 5: I did when this first came out, by showing them 24 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 5: a podcast with a picture of the host sitting on 25 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 5: a toilet. I remember showing that to my mother in law, 26 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 5: my future mother in law at the time, and her 27 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 5: just going and this is who my daughter wants to. 28 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: Marry, not the guy in the toilet, you know. But 29 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 2: I was proud of me. I was proud of it. 30 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 4: Right, I'm proud of it as well. It was the 31 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 4: biggest podcast in the world at one point. It was 32 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 4: bigger than Oprah. It was number one everywhere. Tony Reality's 33 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 4: going to join us. His show is coming to an end. 34 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 4: Around the Horn I have said about this, Tony Reality 35 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 4: is on the mount rushmore of beloved people to ever 36 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 4: work at ESPN and Around the Horn, which started I 37 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 4: think twenty three years ago. 38 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: What a run. 39 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 4: The final episode is coming up this Friday, Mike, that's sad. 40 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 5: That's over half my life, over half my life, Around 41 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 5: the Horn has been on and now it's just ending. 42 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: I know. 43 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 4: Tony Reality has been the host of that show for 44 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,839 Speaker 4: twenty one years, I believe since two thousand and four. 45 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: He's going to join us here in a second. 46 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 4: As the final episode is coming up on Friday, and 47 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 4: so I am interested in Tony's feelings headed into the 48 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 4: to the final episode, and I want to hear about 49 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 4: what's next for our friend Tony Reality. Mike, are you 50 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 4: sad that Around the Horn is going away? 51 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 5: I'm probably more sad that Around the Horn is ending 52 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 5: than Stupotody because Stupotody is going to get rebranded Around 53 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 5: the Horn is not right? 54 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: Okay? 55 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 4: Well, should I be upset that Tony Reality has, or 56 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 4: anyone for that matter, at Around the Horn that they 57 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 4: haven't reached out to me to make a final appearance 58 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 4: on the show. 59 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 5: It's definitely something we need to ask him about. But 60 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 5: the thing I want to ask him about is give 61 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 5: me a name of somebody who would say something bad 62 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,839 Speaker 5: about you. That's who I want to know if there's 63 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 5: anybody that he knows would say something bad about Tony Reality, 64 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 5: because I don't think there is one. 65 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 4: Oh I'm certain he knows somebody and his name is 66 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 4: Tony Kornheiser. 67 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 3: My man, how are we great? Man? I really am. 68 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 3: People are talking to me like I'm dying, but I'm 69 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 3: doing great. You know, this is like you know, especially 70 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 3: you get Lemon Tart. It's just like how are you 71 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 3: know I'm doing good man. I am going out of 72 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 3: my own term, not on my old term, definitely not 73 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 3: going down to my own terms. But I'm going down 74 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 3: to my own terms on Friday on this with the 75 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 3: way I'm doing the show. So I'm happy about that. 76 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 2: How do you know what are the emotions like this week? 77 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 3: I mean, I just I can't even get my head 78 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 3: around how many people are reaching out, you know, you 79 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 3: and I. I mean, you call, I pick up the phone. 80 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 3: There's some calls. I can't even get to this point 81 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 3: right now. I mean, it's so so there's a lot 82 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 3: of that, which is why I was doing it all along. 83 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 3: You know, the connection, you know, I feel it. I 84 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: really do. So when someone like h nick Wright on 85 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 3: TV says it's the most important show of all time, 86 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 3: I'm like easerobio. But uh but you know you could 87 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 3: say that. I wouldn't say that. 88 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 4: You know, it's a great show, Tony. People have fallen 89 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 4: in love with a show. I mean, it's a twenty 90 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 4: four year run. It's on your television every day five o'clock. 91 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 2: Boom, It's there. 92 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 4: There are very few things you can count on the media, 93 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 4: and this is one of those things, and it's going on. 94 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 3: You and I have a similar we have a similar 95 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 3: work ethic, I think honestly. I mean everyone who has 96 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 3: radio has his work ethic to be. To be blunt 97 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 3: about it, you know, I really value the I'm going 98 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 3: to work every day and I'm gonna put up a number. 99 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 3: I looked up at one point and someone said Regis 100 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 3: Philbins in the Guinness Book of World Records for about 101 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 3: fifty thousand shows or something like that. He started at 102 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 3: twenty three. And at some point I'm like, all right, 103 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 3: reach coming for you. You know, I want to put 104 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 3: up a number. I want to work every day. So 105 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 3: when I was able to say or find out from Wikipedia, 106 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 3: you tell me if this is true that we outdid 107 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 3: Jerry Springer Show and Oprah Winfrey Show and David Letterman, 108 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 3: well then that gets me to a place of feeling 109 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 3: really proud, you know. 110 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, and fortunate. It's it's unfortunate running our business. 111 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, we know what this is. I mean, on Monday 112 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 3: Friday's your last day. That's what they usually tell you. 113 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 3: I've had I've used this expression, the Italian goodbye, you know, 114 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 3: not the Irish goodbye. I've been saying goodbye for months. 115 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 3: It feels like my my plan was to thank everybody 116 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 3: you know and reach out and ty But about then 117 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 3: there was a million people in the you know, and 118 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 3: just it's it's a lot, but I I feel it, you. 119 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 2: Know, Yeah, you feel a love though Tony, I really don't. Yep. 120 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 4: And the appreciation, How did you? How did this show 121 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 4: come to fruition? How did this show partner with ESPN? 122 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 4: I know you weren't the host at the beginning. I 123 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 4: was tell them in for the first two years. You 124 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 4: took over at four and I want to ask you 125 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 4: about that. But the show in general, How did who 126 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 4: came up with the idea of a round? 127 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 3: So that's a little bit for me out of my 128 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 3: total knowledge. I know where I was. I was at 129 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 3: PTI is a breakaway hit for Corneiser, Wilbond, Eric ryde 130 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 3: O mc callaher, the producers and then by a greater extension, 131 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 3: Jim Cohen and Mark Shapiro and John Walsh. These are 132 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 3: ESPN names in two thousand and one, I mean, And 133 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 3: then the idea was, well that's working at five thirty 134 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 3: five o'clock, can we get another show? And gamified a 135 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 3: little bit and at some point maybe ryde On was 136 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 3: hearing about it and maybe it would be a full 137 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:02,679 Speaker 3: ride home our I don't think that didn't happen, because 138 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 3: then Bill Wolf, another producer these are names of TV lore, 139 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 3: decided he would now and I think he really worked 140 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 3: on the game show element of it, and Max Kellerman 141 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 3: became the host of that show, you know, and putting 142 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 3: sports writers on. So at some point there's a thread 143 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 3: that runs through Bill Wolf, Max Kellerman and some other 144 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 3: great names Brad Como, Susan Katz. And that was the 145 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 3: first two hundred or so episodes of Around the Horn. 146 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 3: At some point they may have stopped halfway through. I 147 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 3: filled in no fewer than ten appearances on that show 148 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 3: when I was just that boy, because Tim Kallashaw's camera 149 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 3: broke one day and they needed somebody to be on 150 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 3: the show. Or Kellerman had a sty in his eye. 151 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 3: I remember that one because I wore his clothes on 152 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 3: the show. 153 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 2: You know. 154 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 3: It was just literally so you no, I mean, yeah, 155 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 3: we need somebody to fill in right now. So I 156 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 3: of course was aware of the show, and I got 157 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,679 Speaker 3: a phone call on a Sunday night. This is during 158 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 3: the Patriots Panther Super Bowl. These are one of these 159 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 3: stories you hear people in the business app and you're like, 160 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 3: what is this. I got a phone call in the 161 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 3: middle of the Super Bowl. Not soon after Janet Jackson 162 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 3: and Justin Timberlake had their wardrobe malfunction, which was a 163 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 3: big global story, right, yes, say, can you fill in 164 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 3: tomorrow on ESPN's Around the Horn as the host? You know, 165 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 3: we're in a contract thing and this is what it is. 166 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 3: I'm like, uh yeah, I'll fill in tomorrow again. I've 167 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 3: done it ten times, you know. And then I did 168 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 3: that first show that was an amazing sweat experience. You know, 169 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 3: that was Lebatardian sweat. 170 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: You know, that's a big swem. 171 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 3: We did PTI. We got to bring in the industrial 172 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 3: fan that you see like in like, yeah, yeah, I 173 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 3: sweated through my clothes. I mean, I don't know exactly 174 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 3: how I made it through that episode. I watched it 175 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 3: with Pablo just this week for the first time in 176 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 3: my life, and it was a watchable show. John. I 177 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 3: was like, oh that that passes that. That's a good show. 178 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 3: I was proud of it, which I didn't think. I 179 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 3: don't remember it that way. I remember being you know, 180 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 3: slightly more. It was twenty five, So I did that show, 181 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 3: I did the next show, finished out the week, didn't 182 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 3: let go. You know, I was doing stat Boy and 183 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 3: I was doing Around the Horn out of Washington, d C. 184 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 3: For for the next twelve years. 185 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 2: What do you remember about that first show? Is there 186 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 2: anything do you remember? 187 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 3: I remember, well, I remember a couple things. I only 188 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 3: had one suit. These are the things you remember, right. 189 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 3: I remember saying a prayer before I went on the air. 190 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 3: I was still, you know, a boy who was you know, 191 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 3: saying his prayers before he goes to you know, and 192 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 3: that now you're gonna bring a video of me in 193 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 3: my first communion with the big glasses, looking like Ruth 194 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 3: Bader Ginsburg. But I was that guy, so I remember 195 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 3: that being important to me. I remember wearing a suit 196 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 3: with shoulder pads, you know, which is which is a 197 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 3: good look for a skinny guy like me. 198 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 4: That's how long you've been hosting this fucking show reality, 199 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 4: Jesus Christ, it was a different look back. 200 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 3: Shoulder pads were in that point, my friend, it really were. 201 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 3: And then I remember, you know, so you know, I 202 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 3: remember no plashk winning. I remember that it was Plashki 203 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 3: versus Mariotti, and one of them made a very you know, 204 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 3: like our kids are watching Janet Jackson type argument, and 205 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 3: we were all like, you know, we were all in 206 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 3: our out of our minds because that was just a 207 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 3: third moment in television. So I remember Plashki winning. 208 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 2: At least you didn't get a heavy story for your 209 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: first show. 210 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, I mean that was true. And 211 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 3: now now I'm working with the producers there, I do 212 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 3: can't remember writing that show. That would have been the 213 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 3: producer writing the entirety of the show, and I'm just 214 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 3: you know, in the moment. But I did go back 215 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 3: and watch it, and there was a lot of good 216 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 3: newtes I was proud of. You know, that show and 217 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 3: this show throughout its history really fit. I want to 218 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 3: say my personality completely because I'm not the type to 219 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 3: turn somebody's microphone off. That's not me. 220 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 2: But the meanest thing you've ever done, I mean, it 221 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 2: really is. 222 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 3: I mean, I John, I'll be honest with you. I 223 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 3: struggled with it because I thought it could be too 224 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 3: abrasive for somebody, you know, those first couple of years, 225 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 3: I didn't I struggled with really the omnipotent you know, 226 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 3: I was a stat boy and I can correct people, 227 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 3: and I was a smart alec. But the omnipotent host 228 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 3: who would get the final say over Hall of Famer 229 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,599 Speaker 3: Bob Ryan, Hall of Famer Jackie mcmullon, that was a 230 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 3: little bit too much for me. So it took years 231 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 3: of evolving. But what I wanted to say was the 232 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 3: show meets my energy. You know this about me, John, 233 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 3: So that first show was high octave, you know. And 234 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 3: I've actually dialed down the speed of the show through 235 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 3: the years for a couple of reasons. And you could 236 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 3: tell me it was better when it was fast, it 237 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 3: was better when it was only six panelists, and I 238 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 3: absolutely you could feel that way. I feel that way 239 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 3: some days and other days I feel like it's great 240 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 3: that we have a stable of fifteen people and we 241 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 3: can have someone who worked in radio like yourself on 242 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 3: the show, John, and not just deadline writers for columns 243 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 3: for papers. Right, So every show evolves and adapts, should 244 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 3: has to needs to be on what we were twenty 245 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 3: three years. So I've adjusted the speed sometimes, but I'm 246 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 3: that I'm still I still appreciate that type of energy. 247 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 2: When did you start feeling uncomfortable hosting that show. 248 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 3: It had to be two to three years, if not more. 249 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 3: I mean we're talking five hundred episodes. I didn't have 250 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 3: a contract with ESPN that first year at all. I 251 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 3: was on a day to day rate for a twenty 252 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 3: five year old kid from Fordham. That was great. I 253 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 3: mean day to day rate. I mean so so I 254 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 3: wasn't married. I no, I mean, I mean so that 255 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 3: was wonderful. I was doing staff boys, so I had 256 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 3: another job that was you know, benefits and everything. So 257 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 3: I wasn't sweating. Although there was a time they brought 258 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 3: in a dream job contestant. There wasn't a conversation, you know, 259 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 3: it just said you're off today. So I was aware 260 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 3: of that. I said this yesterday on a show and 261 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 3: I said, I was waiting for Stu Scott to come 262 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 3: in and take over the show. It's a good show, 263 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 3: right he's And somebody said, you were waiting for Stu 264 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 3: Gotts to come over and host the show, and I 265 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 3: let them believe that. I'm like, yes, I was waiting 266 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 3: for Stu Gotts to come over. Just around the lord, 267 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 3: I was waiting for the greatest cable network in the 268 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 3: history of the medium. To bring in one of their 269 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 3: incredible great talents, rich Eisens through Scottlandacoleen, name anybody, you know. 270 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 3: It never happened. So then we're onto the second year. 271 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 3: I got a contract and it brought in a voice 272 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 3: coach to work with me so I could sound a 273 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 3: little bit more polished. I guess you know what I 274 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 3: took away from that. I'm happy to do all that work, 275 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 3: but I took away from that was a tongue twister 276 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 3: that I say before I go on TV every day, 277 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 3: Irish Wristwatch five times fast, Irish wrist Watch, irishist Watch, 278 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 3: Irish rest Watch, Irish Wristwatch, Irish Ristbauch opening up the 279 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 3: back of my show. That happened. I worked with an 280 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 3: interview coach who everyone at ESPN worked with, John Sawatski. 281 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 3: Was his name, open neutral questions. I did the work 282 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 3: and I felt more comfortable with that, but I didn't 283 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 3: feel fully comfortable until I was able to evolve the 284 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 3: show a little bit more away from the host and 285 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 3: onto the sports writers. 286 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 2: Do you have the most embarrassing moment to well, I. 287 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 3: Thought I broke my finger muting Michael Smith two thousand 288 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 3: and eight, two thousand and nine. 289 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 2: I love by the way, that you actually thought about this. 290 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 4: You thought, because anyone who knows you know that Tony 291 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 4: would think about this. I don't want to be the 292 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 4: guy who turns people's mics off. 293 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 3: No, no, that's true. I mean, I mean, come on, 294 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 3: I get it. It's a fun mechanic. It's wonderful. I 295 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 3: would I would if I've really even had a business 296 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 3: sense through the years. I mean I would have. I 297 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 3: would have been in a much better place today. But 298 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 3: I would have been selling the mute button out on 299 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 3: the street, you know, I would. I would have been, 300 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 3: you know, doing that. My kid buys Mister beast Cat 301 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 3: and candy or something like that, you know. So so 302 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 3: so that part of it, the mubun, you know, the 303 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 3: pressing of it, the tactile is it's beautiful, and it's 304 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 3: and and it's it's it's it's wonderful. It's a level 305 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 3: playing field. It's great. You can't score sports a sports 306 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 3: debates do no matter how you try it, you can 307 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 3: do it in a certain way. You can have fun 308 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 3: with it, and you can new people and you can 309 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 3: direct traffic with that. So at one point I smacked 310 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 3: it down. I thought, so we have somewhere, though I 311 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 3: think it's been stripped because somehow we lost our YouTube page. 312 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 3: The keys were taken away years ago. Now now they 313 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 3: reward you were having a YouTube page ten years ago. 314 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 3: He didn take it away by by Bristol. So somewhere 315 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 3: I was like this on camera and they rolled in 316 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 3: the video to embarrass me, which I enjoyed. I enjoyed that. 317 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 3: I used to do a prop fall. Is that what 318 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 3: it's called a pratfall where I would fall off my 319 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 3: seat just to make people. This was either on Twitter 320 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 3: or before Twitter laugh at me because I'm that type 321 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 3: of him. So I like to think, oh, look at 322 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 3: this guy. He thinks he's so cool in the chair 323 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 3: and he just fell. It was always going to commercial 324 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 3: break and I would always be like, whoa, you know, 325 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 3: and then that would be the last image they saw 326 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 3: and they thought they got one on me. You know, 327 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 3: I'm I'm content to do much like you know. President 328 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 3: Company included what it takes to do the job, you know, 329 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 3: and days I was of mind to do that. 330 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 4: Tony, when you say that it feeds your personality though, 331 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 4: it's kind of like that Adhd. 332 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 2: I have the same thing. It's like it just the show. 333 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 4: You you have buttons, you have big buttons, you can 334 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 4: push buttons, you bounce around. 335 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 2: Things go quick. It happens quickly, right. 336 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, forty four different buttons. I can press it any 337 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 3: moment during the current show that's we're saying goodbye to 338 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 3: while a director is in my ear potentially not all 339 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 3: the time, but just saying camera five, camera seven, or 340 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 3: two producers could be in my ear at that time, 341 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 3: and of course the four writers are talking at that moment, 342 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 3: and I'm listening and scoring what they're saying. I'm trying 343 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 3: to do it. I'll be honest with you. I've always 344 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 3: tried to score the show, honestly, and when I'm giving points, 345 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 3: I'm trying to affirm why, so it's not just dink 346 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 3: ding doink doink, But you know, maybe that's all you 347 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 3: take away. So then I'm doing all that in this 348 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 3: part of my head, and the other part is, like 349 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 3: you know, I'm I could want to say something and 350 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 3: sound coherent at the back of it, So when everybody 351 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 3: stops talking, then I gotta fill right. So I'm aware 352 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 3: of like seven different voices at once, plus buttons. 353 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 2: You know, Yes, I love the show. Tony I'm upchecking you. 354 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 3: I'm living you on as many episodes as we did. 355 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 3: I mean again, I evolved how I viewed it, and 356 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 3: some people can say it needed to be a different 357 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 3: way or whatever you we tried. Please tell me you 358 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 3: can have There are headlines being written about us all 359 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 3: week and it's wonderful and all of them won, and 360 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 3: some of them could be critical. I would welcome you 361 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 3: to have a critical view of it. I would put 362 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 3: it up for under the microscope. Well have you thought 363 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 3: about that? You know all the panelists that we had 364 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 3: on through the years and exactly what they said, and 365 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 3: the fifty thousand topics we had, you were upset with 366 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 3: ten of them? What is that? That's point zero one 367 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 3: percent of the topics? You're set with one hundred of them? 368 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 3: Then then that's point one percent of the topics. You 369 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 3: were upset with it if it was a thousand. So 370 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 3: I can take all that. But what I liked was 371 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 3: we had a crazy uncle sports writer. We had the 372 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 3: Basketball encyclopedia sports writer, we had the professor of journalism sportswriter, 373 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 3: man women we had. Then I liked opening it up 374 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 3: to radio and someone like Bomani Jones or yourself. I 375 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 3: think and see the world in a different way, and 376 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 3: for me, that's how the debate should go. 377 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 4: One of the great calls I got while while working 378 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 4: at ESPN was well, the first call I got was 379 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 4: from Aaron Solomon. 380 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 2: He asked me, finally, after years of begging, you. 381 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 3: Got there was a movement. There was a movement afoot. 382 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 2: There was, but it was the call. 383 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 4: And this speaks to what kind of person you are 384 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 4: in your personality. Right after the show, I am driving 385 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 4: home and I am zooming out of there at the 386 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 4: Cleveland There because Lord knows, if you leave South Beach 387 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 4: anytime alf to two o'clock and you have to go 388 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 4: where I have to go, which is Palm Beach. Essentially, 389 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 4: you're looking at a three and a half hour drive 390 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 4: and I get a call and I look at my 391 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 4: phone and it's from Tony Reality. 392 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 2: And this is why you're the greatest. Tony. 393 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 4: You called me because I was wondering how I did. 394 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 4: You don't know, like these things happen so quickly. You 395 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 4: take your suit off, you put your clothes on, you 396 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 4: get in the car, You sit in traffic of three 397 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 4: hours and you wonder, did I do good? 398 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 3: I did that? 399 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 2: Show up. How did I do? Reality calls me and says, 400 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 2: to got's you nailed it. 401 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 3: Yes, I'll never forget. And I mean it doesn't need 402 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 3: to be positive reinforcement. I mean I like to have 403 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 3: critical adds to myself. I mean, I think I have 404 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 3: been appreciative in my jobs when people tell me what's cooking? 405 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 3: You know, I needed that in other times when I've expanded, 406 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 3: you know, I wanted to hear. I want people to 407 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 3: know where they're going, where they're looking, what they're hearing, 408 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 3: what they should be looking at. Let's remove all that 409 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 3: type of anxiety. Because my secret to TV, for lack 410 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 3: of a better word at the moment, is to make 411 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 3: you forget you're on TV. Because that's what I was 412 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 3: for this show. You know, I wanted we play music 413 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 3: when we sit down before every show, John and you 414 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 3: know this, and I would ask whoever was sitting down first. 415 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 3: It's a little bit of a you know, reward. You 416 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 3: get to be the DJ and Plashki alway picked Abbah 417 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 3: and you know, and and you know whatever it's it's 418 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 3: we make fun of them. But then now we're having 419 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 3: that conversation and then we remind ourselves what we're talking about, 420 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 3: but then we're still lost on that, and then you 421 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 3: forget and then you're having a natural conversation. That's it. 422 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 3: I wanted that real, unpredictable in the TV show. And 423 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 3: then you're you're as much as anybody somebody who lives 424 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 3: in that space. So that was what I was trying 425 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 3: to reinforce with you in the moment. Like I've been 426 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 3: told before, be like this. I just told you they've 427 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 3: brought a voice poach to work it with me. Or 428 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 3: I wi wore a suit for many years on this show. 429 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 3: That's not who I am, right, So I am now 430 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 3: appreciative of an industry that is going to take anybody 431 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 3: how they are. And you can play up a character 432 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 3: or play down a character if you like, or you 433 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 3: could be one to one ratio. Is how I try 434 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 3: to operate, because that's what makes me feel right. When 435 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 3: I'm in that space, I can goof it up. I 436 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 3: did an episode at Seinfeld once. You know for Halloween. 437 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 3: People are like good impression and you already look like 438 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 3: him because your face is like a horse. But you 439 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 3: know you had to score the show. Stop stop with that? 440 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 3: What's it deal with this? No? No, no, you know, 441 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 3: so I need to dial that down. I get it. 442 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 2: You're so great. What's the biggest blessing that shows given you, Tody? 443 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 3: Well, I'll say this. You know this is sad now, right. 444 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 3: I went through the toughest moments of life with my 445 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 3: wife and my family, and we lost our son in stillbirth, 446 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 3: and we welcomed the Enzo at the same time. And 447 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 3: that's just the duality of life in your face. And 448 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 3: I'm somebody who is a sharer. 449 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 2: My wife. 450 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 3: Is not. And we talked about this in advance, you know, 451 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 3: but be able to be open like that on TV 452 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 3: the way that I decided to be, of course, that 453 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 3: felt for me like something. But what came back in 454 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 3: return is what I'm talking about, you know. I mean, 455 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 3: I'm still getting notes sent to me about that or 456 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 3: just about people's lives. I've called people, send letters. They 457 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 3: call people on the phone and they're home, you know, 458 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 3: they don't expect it. I've read some of the most 459 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 3: heartfelt letters that I'm worried about the person on the 460 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 3: other side of the letter. This was this week, John, 461 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 3: And I'm still trying to get to somebody to pick 462 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 3: up a phone because I'm worried about somebody this is 463 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 3: I don't know them right, and that's so it's not 464 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 3: all good, but it is all it's all real and 465 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 3: it's all full. So I never you know, especially in 466 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 3: those early days. You know, I couldn't even get my 467 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 3: head around. How do you have a conversation where you 468 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 3: don't score the debate on the show that has the 469 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 3: scoring system. You gotta score it. You can't do anything heavy, 470 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 3: you gotta score it. You know where I would score 471 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 3: something heavy and feel like stupid because I think in 472 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 3: the background of something very heavy. But once and again 473 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 3: I'll take feedback. The show was better before you opened 474 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 3: up too much. Okay, you know, but this was this 475 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 3: was how I chose to do it and live my life. 476 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 3: And some people appreciate what that is and others don't. 477 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 3: And I get that. I'm not. I don't. I'm a pleaser. 478 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 3: But you know, I can recognize people's tastes are what 479 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 3: they are, and they change, you know. I know, I've 480 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 3: lived in my skin for forty six and a half years. John, 481 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 3: I know when I'm in a room with somebody, we're 482 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 3: getting we're getting a law. You know, No, But I 483 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 3: mean people have written things in the last week and 484 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 3: are so nice. And people have also written things about politics. 485 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 3: Nobody ever in the world in a room I'm in 486 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 3: some it is like reality, You're to this, You're to 487 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 3: this politically? Are you serious? Do you know my family? 488 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 3: You don't know my family. I'm the guy who wore 489 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 3: an ash on TV every day for twenty three years. Okay, 490 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 3: that's who I am, you know I mean that. So 491 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 3: I have to be able to take absolutely everybody says 492 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 3: about the show, because what it is with all communications, John, 493 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 3: you know this, the second it comes out of mouth, 494 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 3: it doesn't belong to me anymore belongs to you. So 495 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 3: they will take whatever they said. I could say, I 496 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 3: would like to take back four or five or ten 497 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 3: things I said in five thousand episodes. You know I 498 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 3: can be completely truthful my eye. Yes, it meant the 499 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 3: show went one way for you. Ten things I said 500 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 3: in five thousand episodes. I can live with that. Nobody 501 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 3: from Bristol ever called me full stop period in twenty 502 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 3: three years. But maybe I talked twice in my life 503 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 3: and it was always keep on doing what you're doing. 504 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 3: There was never a controversy, There was never anything. 505 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 2: Never years. 506 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 3: You can't go a week now and hear about other 507 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 3: people who are in stuff you have never heard about 508 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 3: that with this show, not once. 509 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 2: Me and Levatar were getting five calls a day precisely. 510 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 3: So I have a very I'm a confident person. I 511 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 3: have a very thick skin about some things, and I'm 512 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 3: more than happy to have any conversation with anybody that's 513 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 3: in good faith at all times, which is why I 514 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 3: liked going on Twitter people. I wouldn't recommend it to anybody, 515 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 3: but you know, I'm happy to go on there and 516 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 3: meet people, and that's what I want to do going forward, John, 517 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 3: I want to have some great jobs in sports and 518 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 3: I will the best and the biggest sporting events, and 519 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 3: I will. But I also think there's still a place 520 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 3: what's real. It's connecting with people, and this is what 521 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 3: the last six months reaffirmed to me. I already knew 522 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 3: this to be true, but you know, I'd love to 523 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 3: play around the horn with the viewers somewhere in a 524 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 3: digital space where you don't have to worry is it 525 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 3: getting whatever. I don't know if ESPN cares about ratings. 526 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 3: Our shows rating very well, so I don't think it 527 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 3: was about that. But I'm just I can go in 528 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 3: a digital form. I don't care who's watching it, but 529 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 3: I want to get people an experience. 530 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 2: I'm in on that, by the way. Yeah, I think 531 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 2: I think you'd be great on that, the digital version 532 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 2: of a version. 533 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 3: Of Around the Horn with average fans just dropping on 534 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 3: my website tonyreality dot com. Yeah, just ripping it at 535 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 3: five o'clock. You know I can do that for for 536 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 3: for a long time. 537 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 2: I can. 538 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 3: I can. I'd be happy to do that. 539 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 2: I'd be happy to be there with you Tone Mount Rushmore. 540 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 4: Okay, this is I'm gonna put you in a bad spot, 541 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 4: but give me the Mount Rushmore of Around the Horn panelists. 542 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 3: I I I thought about this because no one's had 543 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 3: the onions to ask that question, by the way, so 544 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 3: thank you very much, John. You know, no one's nobod 545 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 3: It's like, let's put reality on this spot. They've been 546 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 3: able to ask them a different way. How I think. 547 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 2: I don't think you're gonna upset anyone, so no, of 548 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 2: course not. 549 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 3: But this is not about upsetting. This is my Mount 550 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 3: Rushmore is, and who's best my Mount Rushmore's Who would 551 00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 3: literally survive on Mount Rushmore? Who are the last four 552 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 3: surviving debaters? We're talking about endurance, we're talking about expert 553 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 3: analytical arguments. We're talking about the will to do with 554 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 3: the other person won't in a sports debate, and for me, 555 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 3: it starts with Bob Bryan. Now we're talking peak, Bob Brian, 556 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 3: you're not getting Tony. Let me tell you another, Tony. 557 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 3: It's not about the it's not elbow jumper is the 558 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,959 Speaker 3: most important shot and again not that threat pointer, Tony. 559 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 3: All right, Oh my god, I can't believe I just 560 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 3: did they? Okay, So, so that Bob Bryan encyclopedic in 561 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 3: his sports and his love. You know what. So Bob 562 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 3: Brian whatoody Paige? What he pages the good of around 563 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 3: the horn? And he won the debates and he would 564 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 3: be indefatigable in some ways, So so that would be great. 565 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 3: I have a wild card here in this and it's 566 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 3: Sarah Spain. Sarah Spain a force of nature from back 567 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 3: when forces of nature were old forces of nature. Yes, 568 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 3: pointiest elbows that we had on our show. You know, 569 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 3: she would cut you. You wouldn't even know you were bleeding, 570 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 3: but you look down and it be a pool of 571 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 3: blood at your feet. Yeah, be very poetic, and you know. 572 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 2: We called it the commission on our show. 573 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,719 Speaker 4: She would just I mean, you know, the next thing 574 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 4: you like, she would just say something, and the next 575 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 4: thing you knew, you were looking on the floor dying. 576 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 3: And the last spot. This is going to sound like 577 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 3: I'm I'm I'm serving no other person we came across 578 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 3: in our universe, even Lil Wayne, who's won Grammys or 579 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 3: even had a movement come out and say he needs 580 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 3: to be in the show like you did. Still, so 581 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 3: it would be between Stu and Bomani. Jones would be 582 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 3: my last two because Bomani has never lost a sports debate. 583 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 3: He's just allowed it to end. But the STU Army, 584 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 3: the STU Army would be somehow able to transport you 585 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 3: the weapons you need to conquer Mount Rushmore in that moment. 586 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 3: That's how That's how I would answer it for you. 587 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 2: I like that, Mike. 588 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, you feel like he's only saying that to me 589 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 4: because I'm the one doing the interview right now, the only. 590 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 3: One who asked, you know what, though, having the guillones 591 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 3: to ask that question, I have put Sue higher up. 592 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 3: Dan Patrick's not asking that question. I mean, let's be honest, 593 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 3: You're still. 594 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah. Uh, Tim kleins Shaw's gonna be so pissed. 595 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 2: So is Jack. 596 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 3: Oh god, I love him. I love him so much, 597 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 3: you know, because he had to. He had the dry 598 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 3: sense of humor, you know he I mean that that 599 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 3: was that was great about that. He still doesn't know 600 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 3: what show what he was doing. He knows we're doing 601 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 3: around the Horn, but I don't know what show that 602 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 3: guy's did. 603 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 2: Right, He's so it's it's it's just us a. 604 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 4: It's such a fantastic to have sports writers a journalist 605 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 4: kind of come out of their shell and you get 606 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 4: to see for the first time, like you get to 607 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 4: see a little bit behind the scenes with Bob Ryan 608 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 4: and what he's all about. 609 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 2: I thought that was the best part of the show. 610 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 2: We don't know these people, and you brought it out 611 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 2: of him. 612 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 3: Tony, That's what that was the goal. Thank you for 613 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 3: saying that. I mean, now we can recognize, you know, 614 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 3: when this show signs off on Friday, gets signed off 615 00:28:55,680 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 3: on Friday, it will be the end of that journalism 616 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 3: on Deadline writers appearing on TV. Tony and Mike I 617 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 3: love him, their journalists with the Capitol J. But they're 618 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 3: now riding on Deadline for The Washington Post this week. 619 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 3: Tim Kalishaw, we were up in the air two days 620 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 3: ago about whether he was gonna even be able to 621 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 3: be on the last show of Around the Horn that 622 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 3: he's given his life to because Stars Oilers is playing 623 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 3: an Edmonton that weekend and we can't. I'm gonna get 624 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 3: him a shot a rogue camera, you know, That's what 625 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 3: I've said. So we got guys on deadline, so when 626 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 3: when we're gone, that's it. There ain't no more of 627 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 3: that type of show. Now we're seeing, of course, athletes 628 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 3: coming out and having wonderful podcasts, and I know we 629 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 3: can appreciate what that is, but we could also see 630 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 3: with our eyes how it's different, right, and and and 631 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 3: it's and it's different. 632 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 2: Uh, Tony, I'll get you out of here in just 633 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 2: a second. 634 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say a few names that I know are 635 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 4: important to you when you say whatever you want about 636 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 4: those people, Okay, The final episode of Around the Horn 637 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 4: coming up this Friday, five o'clock on ESPN. 638 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 3: Eric ryde Holme, Well, he gave me so much freedom. Honestly, 639 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 3: it was a gift to be able to know I 640 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 3: could go into a show every day and just start cooking. 641 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 3: And I mean he's the one who interviewed me for 642 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 3: PTI and picked me out and said you're gonna be 643 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 3: stat boy too. So I mean I would say we 644 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 3: call him the genius for a reason. But the genius 645 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 3: as it applied to around the Horn and for me, 646 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 3: was he gave all of us all the space to play. 647 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 2: He is a He is a genius. There's no question 648 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 2: about it. Matt Kelleher. 649 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 3: Matt Keller is you know, one of the greats, one 650 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 3: of the greats. Yes, godfather to his child. He's godfather 651 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 3: to my child. That's all I need to say about that. 652 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 3: I will say he's the most underrated person in the 653 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 3: entire ESPN universe and in the entire PTI story. More specifically, 654 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 3: the most underrated person is Matt Keller makes that show go, 655 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 3: makes that show be the success it was is it 656 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 3: is the trenches every day with Corneiser and Wilbond. But uh, 657 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 3: I just said the word genius, So I need to 658 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 3: come up with a word that's better than genius, because 659 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 3: because I feel like there's there's a masterful nature to 660 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 3: my friend Matt Kellerher and. 661 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,239 Speaker 2: He had this unique a wait. 662 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 3: Basically, I mean, let me hit the button here. He's 663 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 3: the best man. 664 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 2: I know, he's the best man. You know, he has 665 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 2: this listen. 666 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 4: He has a unique ability and you know this is 667 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 4: difficult to do. Just looking at Matt he can get 668 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 4: hosts just to calm down and slow down. 669 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 2: He did it to me all the time. 670 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,479 Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, that's wonderful. Yeah, yeah, best man. 671 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 2: I know, he's awesome. Aaron Solomon. 672 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 3: Aaron Solomon is the the muscle of around the horn. 673 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 3: He is what makes it move. He's the one who 674 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 3: keeps us on, keep it short. Yes, by your cell 675 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 3: answers is the first thing that came to mind. He 676 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 3: has to work with a host who was twenty five 677 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 3: and absolutely tireless. Absolutely you know, my ears needed to 678 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 3: be opened a little bit more to other suggestions through 679 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 3: the years because I have such a review. So he 680 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 3: was able to work with me, and that is that 681 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 3: is not you know, something I take for granted. 682 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 2: And I'm thankful for that last one page. 683 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 3: What he Paige. You know, nobody would feel this way 684 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 3: but me, you know, because I know him a little 685 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 3: bit differently. I mean, there's a heart in there. I 686 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 3: know how much those wins and those losses really meant 687 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 3: to him. I know how he's viewing Friday Show. I 688 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 3: mean it's existentially, this is the end of a show. 689 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 3: What's the next, you know? Ending. I know that I'm 690 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 3: gonna think of two moments, you know, at my apartment 691 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 3: and him dunking on my kids, dunk dunk on our 692 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 3: rim in the in the basement, and I'm going to 693 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 3: think of standing right next to him and introducing him 694 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 3: at a benefit dinner for UH Suicide Prevention. Joan rivers 695 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 3: what he page myself, I mean, what a what a 696 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 3: great room that was. Joan was wearing six and chiels 697 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 3: and I had to kind of like help her down 698 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 3: the stairs, but I remember so so it's about heart 699 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 3: with what he one more name, I'm gonna say Josh Bart. 700 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 2: Oh, I forgot that, Josh, Sorry, Josh. 701 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 3: Call her is the PTI universe and Josh Bart is 702 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 3: the Around the Horn universe. This is, you know, this 703 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 3: is your life reality. I'm just going through all the 704 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 3: people and Josh Bart is also you know, a brain 705 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 3: and a soul of Around the Horn and the way 706 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 3: he works with UH, with the panelists every day. But 707 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 3: also he was the one that would say Okay, that's 708 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 3: all right, reality, here we go, and and I love 709 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 3: him for that. 710 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 2: There's nothing like getting laughter from Josh Bard in your 711 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 2: ear set. 712 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 3: Good laughter, good laugher, and better jokes. You know, he 713 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 3: was a ghostwriter for a lot of the jokes, and 714 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 3: those writer for a lot of the scripts. 715 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 2: Tony Man. 716 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 4: So listen, you have a godfather, You have some of 717 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 4: your best friends, you created a family and around there. 718 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so I needed more of a godfather 719 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 3: in the industry. I would say that this is one 720 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 3: of the things. 721 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 2: I learned at home, isn't he. 722 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 3: Well yes, but he plays godfather in a different way. 723 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm happy and and happy to be taking 724 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 3: and meeting so many great people who are who are now? 725 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 3: Who know where the doors are in this innight? That's 726 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 3: what I'm looking I'm going to be be opening doors now, 727 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 3: and that's that's that's pretty exciting. 728 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 2: What do you want to do next? 729 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 3: I want to do everything. I want to have one 730 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 3: of the best. No, no, no, I say that I've 731 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 3: done one show. I've done one show for twenty three years. 732 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 3: I want the exact opposite of that now and fit 733 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 3: my personality and my energy in some ways I want 734 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 3: to review with the biggest sports in the world, you know, 735 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 3: biggest game of the year and the biggest sports in 736 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 3: the world. And I want to do meaningful, heartful television. 737 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 3: There doesn't mean game call, doesn't mean a show that 738 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 3: a chair that exists right now. I want. I want 739 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 3: to invent the next chair. I want to do game shows. 740 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 3: I love game shows. I wrote game shows when when 741 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 3: I broke into this business. I love how interactive we 742 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 3: can be right now in game shows, and that's another 743 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 3: way to stick with people. I want to do kid shows. 744 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 3: I want to do parenting shows. I want to do 745 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 3: things like that. I wanna be a I want to 746 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 3: be a sport all right. I want to be living 747 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 3: in this space and then I go this, I go this, 748 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 3: I go this, I go this. That's where I want 749 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 3: to be. 750 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,240 Speaker 2: I love that that feature personality. 751 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 4: Mikey, I had a question here on the way out, 752 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 4: but also at the very end here, what I would 753 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 4: like to do was for the three of us to 754 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 4: try to pronounce Irish wristwatch. 755 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 2: And say five times quickly together. Okay, Mikey, Hey go ahead. 756 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 5: I'm wondering if there's anybody who would say something bad 757 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 5: about Tony really. 758 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 3: That I've been sitting here. Read me twice while we 759 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 3: were doing the show. Cloneizer called me twice while. 760 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 2: That was the beat, Mike was going to tear your 761 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 2: head off. I mean, it was freaking I just assumed 762 00:35:58,680 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 2: it was you. 763 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 3: Well, I will say this, Mikey, once you ask that question. 764 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 3: The light did come on me. Right, So we know 765 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 3: the Pope is a sports fan. So there we go. Okay, 766 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 3: I'm not drawing uh people, people I know like, oh, 767 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 3: you should run for president. That's been set of people. 768 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 3: You run for pope. Okay, that's a joke. Oh oh no, 769 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 3: there are. There was a time in my life, Mikey 770 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 3: and and levantar noses more than than studos, you know, 771 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 3: where I was a very energetic young man who would 772 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 3: take liberties with refs and cyo games and and and 773 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,399 Speaker 3: all these other type of three on three and five 774 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 3: on five, these where I would argue calls. Most importantly, 775 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 3: I would know it was not that referee who gave 776 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,439 Speaker 3: me the fouls call. It was another That's not your call. 777 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 3: That's not your call. I like. I mean, I am 778 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,720 Speaker 3: a goodie two shoes, Mikey, and I am a pleaser, 779 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 3: and I'm a I like to live stress free life, 780 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 3: which means, you know, treating other people like I like 781 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 3: to be treated. But I've also have a strong personality 782 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 3: and I'm a contrarian, so there is plenty of times 783 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 3: there needs to be conflicted in a newsroom, in an 784 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 3: office space to get the best show out. And I'm 785 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 3: not a doormat. I will never be accused of being 786 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 3: a doormat. Even though you want to be a kind 787 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 3: person in life, You're not a doormat, right, don't don't 788 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 3: don't let people walk over you, so uh though you know, 789 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 3: uh sod find people, please go ahead. I'm I can 790 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 3: sleep great at night knowing you know I did my 791 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 3: best and that other people are gonna take it whatever 792 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 3: they want, where they want. You know, whenever you're in 793 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,040 Speaker 3: a relationship with somebody. 794 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 5: Tony, I'll I'll just say this. I remember the first 795 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 5: time I knew how loved you were. I am also 796 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 5: a fordum ram and I was I was in college 797 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 5: and you were coming back to call a game for 798 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,920 Speaker 5: fore and I'll never forget. I couldn't get in the 799 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 5: arena and was it wasn't it had nothing to do 800 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 5: with the basketball team. 801 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 2: It was because you were out there, I got you 802 00:37:58,320 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 2: in the area. 803 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:11,319 Speaker 3: Yes, well this, now that I know this, oh my goodness. Yeah. 804 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 3: I think it's important to you want to feel good 805 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 3: about yourself, do things for other people. I mean, I 806 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 3: think that's important. I mean, I don't. I don't want 807 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 3: to say this too much, but I knew. I was 808 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 3: on TV, an international TV and in one hundred and 809 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:33,479 Speaker 3: twenty countries and with a lot of great young people 810 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 3: watching specifically, and I'm comfortable modeling how one way is 811 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 3: to go through life. And and that doesn't mean it's 812 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 3: the right way. That doesn't mean, uh, I might not 813 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 3: blow up at a Cyo referee every now and then. 814 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 3: But you know what I mean. I made a joke 815 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 3: on TV once that I hated. It was about Mitchell Trubisky, 816 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 3: the quarterback, and it was about it, and you know 817 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 3: what it was. It was a joke on myself, but 818 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 3: I wanted to not feel bad. I had a terrible 819 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 3: paper toss. This is ridiculous that I'm emitting this. I 820 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 3: had a terrible paper toss. And then I said, I 821 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 3: Mitchell Trubisky did right. And then I'm like, oh God, 822 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 3: what am I doing. I'm the one who had a 823 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 3: bath throw. Now I'm making a joke about somebody else 824 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 3: who's only one of the sixty greatest athletes in the world, 825 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 3: that is profession right fit thirty really at that time, 826 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 3: funny joke, though, Well what did I do? I got 827 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 3: a hold. I made the calls that I needed to make. 828 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 3: I admitted it immediately on social media, tried to amplify 829 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 3: it as much as I could, say, you know what 830 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 3: I did there? That was about me, that wasn't about them. 831 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 3: This is how you know, what is his cause? Cleats 832 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 3: for a cause? What is his donation here? Let's talk 833 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 3: about what Mitchell does? Really great? Who's the person behind that? 834 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 3: My bad move on? 835 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 2: Right? 836 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 3: You know, that's that's one way to do that, you know, 837 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,800 Speaker 3: I get understand. I drew more attention to myself afterwards 838 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 3: and now always so nice for doing that, But that's 839 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 3: how I felt. I'm gonna I mean, I was in 840 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 3: tears at five point thirty two. My wife was sitting 841 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 3: right next during the pandemic. I remember this, I remember this. 842 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,320 Speaker 3: I mean, these are the things that stick with you. 843 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 3: I'm like, why did I do that? You know? So? 844 00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 3: So I I feel a lot, guys, John, you know 845 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 3: this so that's what that was. You know, that probably 846 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 3: wasn't the best the right reaction. The right reaction was 847 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 3: to apologize. But I shouldn't have been doing that way. 848 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 3: And that's why I go to talk therapy or you know, 849 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 3: that's why I'm a big believer in that. 850 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 2: You know, you're everything I wish I could be. 851 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 4: I mean, say it like that, I wouldn't make that 852 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 4: trubisky joke and don't even think for a second about it. 853 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 3: Okay, it is a joke, and I'm I can acknowledge 854 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 3: that's that's more hyper reactive on my end. But once 855 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 3: it played out that way, you know, I also live publicly. 856 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 3: Let's let's let's let's draw this out and show people. 857 00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 3: I mean, I respond to people who are very critical 858 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 3: on Twitter and their eggs right, and they got three 859 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 3: followers and everyone knows what that is. That ain't a 860 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,959 Speaker 3: real person. But I respond and I retweeted out because 861 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 3: I work in TV and we have re errors, so 862 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 3: I have no problem redoing and posting it over and 863 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 3: over again as a model. So this is how you 864 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 3: how I show you where I was coming from. Is 865 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,800 Speaker 3: I'm gonna model my intention. I thought about what I 866 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 3: was doing there. Yes, you're right, I probably could have 867 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 3: gone back to them this way, or yes, you're right, 868 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:15,800 Speaker 3: I could have framed it this way. Here's what I 869 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 3: was thinking. And then you move on and you know, 870 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 3: just say, you know, I hope you go back into 871 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 3: a cave. 872 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, Tony, what are younna miss most? 873 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 3: What am I going to miss? Most? I don't know. 874 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 2: I think it's the pre show ship man before the 875 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 2: show better than the stuff on the show. 876 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 3: I mean that, that's what it is for everybody. The 877 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 3: priests show stuff, the locker room, the in between the 878 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 3: commercial breaks was great. I still I still found out 879 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 3: things about my friends. What he page told us a 880 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,800 Speaker 3: story about about hanging out at Elvis Presley's house and 881 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 3: eating those sandwiches the bacon peanut butter mayonnaise sandwich or 882 00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:00,800 Speaker 3: marshallow sandwich with Elvis's inn, and and that was like 883 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 3: last month, And I'm like, how did this not come 884 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:08,359 Speaker 3: up in twenty three years? Bob Brian A four years? Yeah, yeah, 885 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 3: Bob Bryan last one ton of stories, you know. So 886 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 3: that's yeah, that's the stuff. 887 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 2: You miss, Tony. 888 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,280 Speaker 4: It's been a tremendous run. You're a tremendous person, tremendous 889 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 4: host and a great friend. And congratulations to you. 890 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 2: I do feel like we're we're doing a recap of 891 00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,280 Speaker 2: your career. You're just fucking again. 892 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm not going anywhere. I mean, I hope 893 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 3: you guys see me on YouTube next week. You know. 894 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 3: The page is up and running next week, my website 895 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 3: up and running next week. It's not going anywhere. I'm 896 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,840 Speaker 3: gonna be in Miami for a week in June. 897 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,319 Speaker 2: You know this is yes and yeah, all right, we'll 898 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,400 Speaker 2: see you down here. Congratulations to you, great run and 899 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,200 Speaker 2: to the entire crew. What a show, What a run. 900 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 4: You don't have runs like that often in TV. And 901 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,720 Speaker 4: to you for you, Tony, to host it for twenty 902 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 4: two years. What an incredible ride. 903 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 3: Man. 904 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 4: Best of luck to you moving forward. Appreciate your friendship. 905 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 4: And I appreciate that show very much. I love that show. 906 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 4: I'm gonna miss that show. I'm gonna miss you, Tony. 907 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 3: Thank you, Johnny. You know what I owe it all 908 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 3: to me. Irish Schristwatch, Irish Risk Watch. 909 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,880 Speaker 4: All right, all right, I'm gonna count us down, okay, 910 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:23,839 Speaker 4: three two one, Irish Irish Watch, Iris Watch Watch Watch, 911 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 4: Swiss Wrist watch a batch of mixed wrist watches. 912 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,440 Speaker 3: Russell Restbrook, The Rascally Russell Westbrook. Where's an Irish wristwatch? 913 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 3: The Rascally Russell Westbrook? Where's an Irish wristwatch? 914 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 2: Steve Gotts. I want to tell you something. 915 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 5: We just we just talked to Tony really for thirty 916 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 5: five minutes, and I'm gonna say something that I don't 917 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 5: know that I've ever said about anyone or any guest 918 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 5: we've ever had. I would be very proud if I 919 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 5: raised my son to be like him. 920 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yep, he's because he lives life the right way. 921 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,359 Speaker 2: Is what he really does. 922 00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,839 Speaker 5: And it's and it's not and we've had we've had 923 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 5: like we have people on that I love, that I 924 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 5: adore that I think is some of the nicest people. 925 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 2: But he lives life the way I would strive to. 926 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,880 Speaker 5: And that's that's That's probably as high a compliment as 927 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 5: I can give somebody. 928 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,719 Speaker 2: Yep, he's, Uh, he's what you want your children that 929 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:20,320 Speaker 2: turned out to be. 930 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, he really is, like you know, and it's not 931 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,399 Speaker 5: just a kindness, it's not just a niceness. It's also 932 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 5: a strength to like he doesn't back down from anything. 933 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 5: He's not afraid to say what he wants to say, 934 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 5: but he also says everything with a level of respect 935 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,319 Speaker 5: that oozes out of. 936 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 3: Him, and that is That's not something you find a lot. 937 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 2: Of No, I agree with everything you just said. 938 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 3: He is. 939 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 4: He's a great friend. He's been a mentor, He's been 940 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 4: a huge help for me in my career. I will 941 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,359 Speaker 4: only say this though, that Mitchell Trubisky shit, like, are 942 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:56,320 Speaker 4: you fucking kidding me? 943 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 3: You would love that low hanging fruit