1 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: We don't know. 2 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 2: We've been made up. Same day we a fight of 3 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: my food stay up and I just lay yup. 4 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 3: It was had buddies passed stuff something. 5 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 4: Welcome back to good mom's bad choices. I'm Erica and 6 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 4: I'm Mila. Happy Wednesday, Happy Honday. 7 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 3: How are you doing? I'm good? How are you? 8 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 5: I'm good? Wednesday? 9 00:00:52,960 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 4: Now on the last am I driven. 10 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: The whole Tuesday thinking it was Wednesday, Tuesday. 11 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 4: Basically over It's Wednesday, so it's actually Tuesday. 12 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 3: You will hear this. 13 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 5: It's Wednesday people usually it's. 14 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 3: Well. Now you know. We have a special guest today. 15 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 3: We have Beja here. 16 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 5: Hello everybody, thank you for joining us, for having me. 17 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 4: You were connected to us through a mutual friend. Shout 18 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 4: out to Brandon. 19 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 5: Esb appreciate your brother may Anisa. 20 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 3: Espy, who is one of my best friends. 21 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: There also are attentative video editors, photographer, event planning crew 22 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: and consultants. 23 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 4: The cutest couple of all time and the cutest baby makers. 24 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: Of all times. 25 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 6: True, I am I'm very popular. 26 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 3: I don't get that under control. But Bja, thank you 27 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 3: for joining us. Your last name is Williams. 28 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 5: Williams J. 29 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 3: Williams. 30 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 5: So can you tell us a little. 31 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 3: Bit about you and what you're doing? 32 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 5: Who you are? Who am I? 33 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:12,679 Speaker 7: Damn? 34 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 3: A man with a deep voice? 35 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, remind me to speak up because my voice is 36 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 5: deep and I'm normally just like lo. 37 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, this mike's pretty good and you're pretty sitting pretty. 38 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 5: So if you guys can't hear me, just turn your 39 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 5: volumes up real very one. 40 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 3: Speech. 41 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 5: You can't hear you. 42 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 3: Speakers up, ladies, you can you see that sex me 43 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 3: one time? Everybody's attention. All the ladies listening right now? 44 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 5: Who ladies, turn your volumes up. I don't even know 45 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 5: if that was. 46 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 3: We're gonna use that for all the dry. 47 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:56,119 Speaker 5: Who am I? Damn? Well, I'm here. I think I'm 48 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 5: here because I started a document series called Can I 49 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 5: Be Vulnerable. It's a this is a video series where 50 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 5: black men open up to the world with the vulnerabilities. 51 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 5: There wants, fears, they're all that kind of stuff. That's 52 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 5: basically it. Other than that, though, shit, I'm in entertainment. 53 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 5: You know a model I act. I've been doing that 54 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 5: for almost a decade now as well. I've been a 55 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 5: teacher for like eleven years as well, so I do 56 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 5: both a former athlete. 57 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: I do a little thing here and there, Papa, your dad, 58 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 1: I'm a father. 59 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, I gotta. I call him my baby. Even though 60 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 5: he's sixteen, I still call him my baby. So there's that. 61 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, does he Is he still fucking with you? Or 62 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 4: are you like annoying? Or is that only happened to moms. 63 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good question. 64 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 5: No, my son is very much like I has. My 65 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 5: demeanor is very laid back to so I don't have 66 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 5: those kind of problems. And with kids getting older, my 67 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 5: my concern is now is him out in the world. 68 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 5: It's the things that I can't control that worry me. 69 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 5: I'm not worried about my son. He's very well behaved, 70 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 5: very respectful, loves people. But like what the world can 71 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 5: do to him is what now scares me. And there's 72 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 5: nothing I can do about that, you know what I mean? 73 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 5: Have you had to have that talk with him? We 74 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 5: have to talk all the time. 75 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 3: But like, when did that happen? 76 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 4: Was it like like the time I'm talking about is 77 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 4: like being a black man in America? 78 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 5: That one? Oh no, No. So We've had this talking 79 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 5: a number of times with I think the very first 80 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 5: time we actually sat down and had a really serious 81 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 5: one was Trayvon Martin, and that was one of the 82 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 5: first times I can remember as a father where I 83 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 5: was like, fuck, I can't I can't protect him from everything, 84 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 5: And I honestly didn't even know how to have that 85 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 5: full conversation with him. I called my dad and it 86 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 5: was like, you know, I can cuss on here, right, 87 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 5: have you heard? Yeah, so make sure my manager. It 88 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 5: was the first time, like I didn't know what to 89 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 5: say to him. And I called my dad and honestly, 90 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 5: I don't remember my father having that conversation with me, 91 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 5: but not like a sit down and be let me 92 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 5: tell you about being a black man an It was yeah, 93 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 5: we would just it would be in small talks just 94 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 5: through life, right, But this particular incident happened and my 95 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 5: son asked me, like, you know, you just asked me 96 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 5: about it. I was like, shit, I don't even know what 97 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 5: to say to you right now. So I called my 98 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 5: dad and he kind of just really gave me a 99 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 5: pep talk about, you know, just being a black man 100 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 5: in America, not necessarily what to say to my son. 101 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 5: Ever since then, we've always you know, we had a 102 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 5: conversation about it or whatever I told him about the 103 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 5: laws is why he was able to get off the 104 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 5: stuff like that. And I told him, like, to be 105 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 5: honest with your kid, like, you know, your father's job 106 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 5: is to protect you from everything, and I can't. And 107 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 5: I said, for me, that's terrifying because you know, baby, like, 108 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 5: you're supposed to outlive me, and if there at any 109 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 5: point you don't, well, shit, dad might have to go 110 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 5: right there with you, you know what I mean. But I 111 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 5: told him that it is also my job as a 112 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 5: parent to do the small things vote you know, have 113 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 5: conversations with other adults, make sure that I am setting 114 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 5: an example, and if something goes wrong that I fight 115 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 5: for that, you know what I mean. That's how I 116 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 5: can protect my son, not necessarily by hoarding him and 117 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 5: keeping them doors, but by going out in the world 118 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,239 Speaker 5: and making the world better for him. So you trust 119 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 5: d to do that. 120 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 3: But it's only just me, right, are you the mom 121 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 3: or your single parent? 122 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 5: Single parent? Me and his mother are best friends. So 123 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 5: that's my that's my girl. We were never together. We 124 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 5: just my son was an accident. 125 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 3: That's a funny list. 126 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: You're the second guy who's coming on this show, and 127 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: I was like, no, we were never together. 128 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 5: Was never supposed to that night wasn't even supposed to happen. 129 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 5: It was one of those wake up and like we 130 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 5: would never speak about this ever again. 131 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: Really wait, so you guys are just cool, cool, cool friends, 132 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,679 Speaker 1: best friends. I've been middle school like drunken, slept together, 133 00:06:58,080 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: she got partnered. 134 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 3: That was like the only time to get that. 135 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 5: Ever was left again game with pulling and hennessy and 136 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 5: that was it. 137 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 4: Oh she didn't have Has it taken time to get 138 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 4: to this point or No. 139 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 5: We've always been that's amazing. We've always been tired. We've 140 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 5: had one falling out and and honestly, I still don't 141 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 5: really know the why behind it. I know the incident 142 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 5: of where, but it wasn't that it was something else 143 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 5: and we didn't speak for like two years, but that 144 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 5: it didn't really impact my son, like nothing like that. 145 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 5: But we had one one falling out and this one day, 146 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 5: my son's basketball game, she just came up to me 147 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 5: and gave me a huggin. We was just backbrocking again, 148 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 5: like we never left. But she's married, you know, a 149 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 5: few other kids and shit. So that's my girl, that's 150 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 5: my age. That's amazing. That's my girl right there. We're good. 151 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 3: What's your son? 152 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 5: Believer M. 153 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 3: Triggered her baby. 154 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 5: Daddy October fourteenth. I don't know what none of this 155 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 5: shit means. 156 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: I didn't know if I was balance made with balance 157 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: with libras. It's either like it could be black or white. 158 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: It could be like either really good or really bad. 159 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 3: A man for you for me? Yeah, it's not in general. 160 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 3: Don't scare our guests. 161 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: No, I'm sorry my with my fake ass ostrological reading 162 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: October fourteenth, I know about full other people with that birthday. 163 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: And wait, so after you had your son, even though 164 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: you guys had already been friends and you know, or 165 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: were close, did you ever try to date or be 166 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: romantic because you had a son or you guys. 167 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 3: Never forced that part. 168 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 5: No, we never forced it. 169 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 3: Oh that's healthy. 170 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 5: We never forced it. You guys seem very healthy. 171 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 3: I know, wow, very Yeah, that's beautiful. 172 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 5: It's very rare that had and I was leaving for college. 173 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you said you're eighteen school. 174 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 5: I graduated from Washington. 175 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 3: State, okay, and then you came back. 176 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm from Las Vegas originally. 177 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 3: Not many people I meet from laws and raised Vegas. 178 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 5: But you know, La is right next door. The was 179 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 5: raised out here, so I've been in La all the time. 180 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 5: I would come for summers, you know, as a kid 181 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 5: up and all that stuff. So I'm very familiar with well, 182 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 5: not one of those transplants. I'm very familiar with the 183 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 5: free rays. Before y'all was You're not. 184 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 3: The same as a trans Now that makes sense. 185 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: Is your girlfriend, I mean your girlfriend, your son's mom 186 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: from Vegas? 187 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 3: Too interesting? 188 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 4: So you have a son, you're doing this work. How 189 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 4: can you talk about how you started to why you started? 190 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 5: I can't be I can't be vulnerable. 191 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 3: Can I be vulnerable? 192 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 8: Yeah? 193 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 5: Can I be vulnerable? Came up because I go to 194 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 5: therapy and I wanted to find a way to talk 195 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 5: about my journey to therapy. And it just came to 196 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 5: me one day. I was on vacation and just the 197 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 5: term cannot be vulnerable just popped in my head. I 198 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 5: was just on the beach and it just kind of 199 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 5: just hit me that way. So I got back maybe 200 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 5: like a week later. I had another good friend of mine, 201 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 5: Brandon Thomas. He does all the editing for the videos, 202 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 5: and I just called him like, yeah, I know what 203 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 5: I want to do and he came through. We filmed 204 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 5: it in my backyard. 205 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 3: But what led you to this? 206 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 4: Like what led you to your therapy journey? And wanting 207 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 4: to share that. 208 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 5: With you, know, with you, I'm one of those people 209 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 5: that I have to do something. I'm gonna call it dramatic, 210 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 5: but in order for me to because it was another 211 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 5: part of my healing process, right, So I was like, 212 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 5: and then another thing was is like, why am I 213 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 5: suffering in silence? I talked to a lot of people, 214 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 5: I have students, I heard their stories all the time. 215 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 5: You know, a lot of people call me up with 216 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 5: their problems, but it always seems like we all suffering silence. 217 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 5: So I was thinking, like, just let me just put 218 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 5: this shit out there and hopefully it helps. What were 219 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 5: you suffering from? 220 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 2: Uh? 221 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 5: With putting me in therapy? Is my brother committed suicide 222 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 5: And obviously that's devastating in itself. He's older. Make it 223 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 5: more significant is that I was the one at the time. 224 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 5: I felt like I failed him because I was the 225 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 5: one on the phone with him trying to solve this problem. 226 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 5: We're on the phone as he's tripping. How old were 227 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 5: you when this happened? And so so not long ago. 228 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 5: This is now five years ago. It was twenty fourteen, 229 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 5: and so I was the one that everybody called and said, 230 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 5: solved this problem, like your brother's trip and what's going 231 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 5: on with him? You know, the cops called me, they 232 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 5: were trying to get me to find his location. His 233 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 5: fiance at the time was calling. You know, the whole 234 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 5: family were calling me like hey, you know what's going on, 235 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 5: and like get him? And I did, Like i've at 236 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 5: the time, I took the blame, like this is my 237 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 5: fault that I failed the family and myself. So that's 238 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 5: what was my That was what set me over the edge, right, 239 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 5: But you know there's a bunch of things behind. You 240 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 5: knew my mom died when I was sixteen. You know 241 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 5: that's another loss. But I in my video, I say 242 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 5: I've had a funeral to go to every year since 243 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 5: like nineteen ninety eight, even prior to that. Like my 244 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 5: life with death is wild, you know what I mean, 245 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,599 Speaker 5: especially because I don't live by them lifestyle. So you know, 246 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 5: at one point Mike's girlfriend was like, yo, that's like 247 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 5: follows you because it would be for a while, I 248 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 5: would wake up every day and look at my phone 249 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 5: and be like somebody died, and then I would just 250 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 5: feel like and it would. 251 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 4: Just it wouldn't be like gang violence or like, it 252 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 4: would just be it's normal not normal life. 253 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm like, you gotta be kidnaping. 254 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 4: So it's funny. We had another guest on Natasha and 255 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 4: she suicide follows her. She's been witnessed to many suicide, 256 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 4: like like three or four. 257 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 5: I've had a few friends commits. 258 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 3: More than three or four, like five or six. 259 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, a few of them commits suicide. One was accidental. Yeah, 260 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 5: there's a word purposeful. 261 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 3: I have like four is it suicide if it's accidental, 262 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 3: if you do it yourself? I think it's like, man, 263 00:12:58,720 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 3: I'm gonna call it. 264 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 5: I'm not sure if there is a term. 265 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 3: I don't know. 266 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 4: Why did you ever think like why is it that 267 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 4: that death seems to follow you? Because it's funny because 268 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 4: I've met a few people like this. I like, I 269 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 4: have one person in particular, my baby daddy, who that 270 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 4: seems to follow around too. But that's more so because 271 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 4: he's been associated with like gangs this whole life. 272 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 5: And you know, I can understand. Or if you've been 273 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 5: to war, that's. 274 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 4: Another that's a lifestyle, but he sometimes asked himself like why, 275 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:37,719 Speaker 4: and I'm like, what do you mean why? Whereas like 276 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 4: for Natasha, she thinks that she committed suicide in the 277 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 4: past life. So I don't know if, like if you've 278 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 4: just had to search spiritually to try to reason why, 279 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 4: or if it's just this is just how the world 280 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 4: works in your world. 281 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,599 Speaker 5: I haven't gotten that deep, but at this point is 282 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 5: how my world has worked, and it may. 283 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: It may even be because again with my my psychic 284 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: reading abilities. 285 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 3: By expertise and light psychic creating. 286 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: It maybe because this is very well the platform you know, 287 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: you were supposed to be supposed to create, and and 288 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:13,199 Speaker 1: you have a calling. 289 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 5: Obviously, you know, i'd be right. I don't know, because I. 290 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: Believe everybody gets only what they can handle, and you know, 291 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: who knows what the purpose is behind those there's always 292 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: something bigger, I'd like to believe, And obviously in our community, 293 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: particularly like black men have a hard time being vulnerable, 294 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: being expressive, being emotional, and like a lot of times 295 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 1: for us it's like you being a little bitch, you know, 296 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: like that's I mean. 297 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 3: That's harsh, but that's what people say. I've heard I've 298 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 3: heard men sit into their like four year olds. I'm like, 299 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 3: what the fuck? 300 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: And you being a you know, obviously your your dad's 301 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 1: president in your life. You can pick up the phone 302 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: and call him, and your president in your son's life, 303 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: and what do you think as a father, and you know, 304 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: being fathered, we could do to like change that that 305 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: perspective with our boys. It is like starting young until adulthood. 306 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: That will change that a little bit. 307 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 5: Give them permission to be vulnerable. So don't tell them 308 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 5: the man not don't tell them you're acting like a bitch. Also, 309 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 5: we can take the initiatives ourselves. And I'm talking like 310 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 5: because kids are already emotionally, they have no problems at 311 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 5: all emoting whatever they're feeling. They'll tell you if they 312 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 5: don't like you, if they're sad. They have zero problems. 313 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 5: Is when the adults come in and say stop doing 314 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 5: this is when you now learn what you can and 315 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 5: can't do. And the only emotions we allow for young 316 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 5: men boys is anger and like joy. So if you 317 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 5: see him laughing, obviously going to let them do that 318 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 5: and then anger because that's just what you feel like 319 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 5: we're supposed to do. So give them permission to do 320 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 5: so is one and for people that are established teams enough, 321 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 5: take your own initiative, take permission, like give yourself permission 322 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:53,479 Speaker 5: to be open and vulnerable and be and be emotional 323 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 5: and at the end of the day, just have safe 324 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 5: spaces for you, you know what I mean? Or now 325 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 5: with CIBV being a full initiative platform, whatever you want 326 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 5: to call it, those are some of our goals that 327 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 5: we want to I just want to normalize that men 328 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 5: are emotional. 329 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 3: Like you're human, We go through ship, we cry yea. 330 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 3: Growing up, were you given permission like what was. 331 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 5: Your what was your relationships? My mother used to always 332 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 5: tell My mother suffered from depression as well, and she 333 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 5: used to always say be strong. But she never told 334 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 5: me what the hell that meant. I don't know what 335 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 5: she means. She would be breakdown crying and she would 336 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 5: just stay stay stay strong. I don't know, I love it. 337 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 5: I don't know what this means. But they never if 338 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 5: I would cry for something, they would never like stop 339 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 5: crying or unless they would whoop and me like I'll 340 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 5: give you something cry. They never you know, stiphen what 341 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 5: I was doing. But they, specifically for my father, he 342 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 5: always told me crying was okay, but he never ever 343 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 5: seen your dad cry, or I've seen my father cry. 344 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 5: The first some I saw my father cried was just 345 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 5: when his mom died. I was three. We went to 346 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 5: the funeral. Man, I'm three. I don't really understand the 347 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 5: fact that you remember that. I remember. I remember certain aspects. 348 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 5: My father was raised in Philly, and I remember my parents. Yeah. 349 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 5: I remember being like patches of snow. I remember the 350 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 5: squirrel coming down from a telephone pole. I remember walking 351 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 5: into I'm gonna call at the funeral home. I don't 352 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 5: even know where at church, I don't know where we were. 353 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 5: I remember holding my mom's hand walking to the casket. 354 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 5: She picked me up, gave me to my father, and 355 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 5: he kissed me, and then he put me down, and 356 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 5: I just saw tears coming. That's all I remember about 357 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 5: that whole trip. That was the first time when you 358 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 5: told me my mom died. That was the second time. 359 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 3: Were they married at the time, No, No, they weren't. 360 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 5: They got divorced. I was like ten, But they had 361 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 5: known each other as they were kids, you know, Like, 362 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 5: so that's a lifelong love, you know what I mean? 363 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 3: Well, married or not married? 364 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 5: Who but like you know they My dad was seven, 365 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 5: my mom was five when they met for the first time, 366 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 5: and so he had no you know, you guys are 367 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 5: lifelong friends, whether or not the marriage worked or not. 368 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 5: So not only did you lose you know, the mother, 369 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 5: you know, your son's mother, but he lost a friend 370 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 5: next wife. So uh, he cried then and then when 371 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 5: I graduated high school in college, so those were tears 372 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 5: of joy. 373 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 3: Mm. 374 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 5: Other than that, my father's extremely quiet, m very quiet, 375 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 5: very reserved. If you speak to him, will speak, But 376 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,719 Speaker 5: my father's very reserved. He doesn't. He doesn't speak much 377 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 5: a though. 378 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 3: So would you say he's a vulnerable person. 379 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 5: Hell no, Okay, my father is very You wouldn't know 380 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 5: he was. It's hard to tell him if he's angry 381 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 5: like you just you just want to know. He suppressed 382 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 5: a lot of shit. So one of my goals is 383 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 5: to get him in the theory when this niggas stubborn. 384 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 3: What does he think about your journey? 385 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 4: And like does he I mean, I'm sure, does does 386 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 4: he support it or does he understand it? 387 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 5: Over joy like he is. You can hear this voice 388 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 5: when he speaks like he's definitely hype proud and all 389 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 5: that shit, I hear it. 390 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 4: Do you think that not being able to be vulnerable? 391 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know what what why your brother 392 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 4: committed suicide, and I don't even know if you want 393 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 4: to share that, but I think not being vulnerable played 394 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 4: a part in that, like him not being able to 395 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 4: express his feelings or not knowing how to. 396 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 3: Deal with them. 397 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 5: The funny thing about suicides is designs are always there. 398 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 5: We just don't pay attention to him. 399 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 2: Right. 400 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 5: So, ten years prior, my brother had a stroke and 401 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 5: that changed his whole. If you know anything about strokes 402 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 5: and all, they can change your whole, you can change 403 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 5: you talk everything, all that. So my brother was extremely goofy, funny, 404 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 5: talk fast and shit, there's always you know, love to 405 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 5: be around people. And then he had to stroke and 406 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 5: turned into a hermit and developed OCD. Now we've always 407 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 5: been very clean in our household, but he would do 408 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 5: shit like l He would watch towels every single day, 409 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 5: like and I'm not I can't even make this up. 410 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 5: Every day he would watch howls. It'd be three in 411 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 5: the morning, He'll get up and start dusting, like I 412 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 5: have my own room in at his house. And I 413 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 5: remember some time you're sleeping, They'll coming to start a vacuuming. 414 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 5: The fuck are you doing up? 415 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 3: Wow? 416 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 5: He would clean every single day OCD though. I mean 417 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 5: the house was immaculate. 418 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 9: Yes, figure it out. You guys need to figure it out. 419 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 9: You gotta share, a babe, you guys gotta share. 420 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 4: We'll try, we'll go make the castle or I'm putting 421 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 4: it away. 422 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 5: Oh gosh, the drama of it all. Yeah, So that 423 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 5: was the first big thing that nobody paid attention. Irritable. 424 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 1: I had no idea that a stroke could affect you, 425 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 1: like your personality in that. 426 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:44,439 Speaker 5: Because it's a psychological well no, it's a loss of 427 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 5: oxygen to something, but it can't change you like you. 428 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 5: Sometimes depending on the stroke, you can have to learn 429 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:51,920 Speaker 5: how to walk and talk and all. 430 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 4: This guy, it was my grandfather went through that and 431 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 4: learned how to write again, talk, walk, Because it's like, yeah, 432 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,479 Speaker 4: part of your brain loses oxen and it's almost like decapit. 433 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 4: It's like it can be rehabilitated, yeah, almost fully sometimes 434 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 4: but sometimes no. I didn't realize that it totally like 435 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 4: character traits can change. 436 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 5: So that's that's what happened to him. And with that 437 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 5: comes to depression and all that shit LCD and all that. 438 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 5: So but again I didn't. I knew he's like changed, 439 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 5: but I didn't pay too much. I was gone. I 440 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 5: was in college, you know what I mean. I never 441 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 5: really moved back home either, So I was I was gone. 442 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 5: I would just know, like if him and Mom's got 443 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 5: my stepmam and got into it, they would she would 444 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 5: they would call me like, hey, you know, we're beefing again, 445 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 5: and I would problem solve or whatever. But fast forward, 446 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 5: you know, he got engaged and then he found out 447 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 5: she was having an affair, and that's what set him 448 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 5: over the edge. So he put his plan in emotion 449 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 5: and he wanted her to hurt as he heard, So 450 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 5: that's what he did that. 451 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 3: So that's what it was, because that right when he 452 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 3: that time, when that obviously that happened. 453 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: Had there ever been any like threats or an attempts. 454 00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 3: Before that, not that I know. 455 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 5: Again, I didn't. I never moved back home, right right, fix, 456 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 5: I never moved back home, so I wasn't around him 457 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 5: every day but when I would go home. 458 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 4: But you were, but you were still the one that 459 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,239 Speaker 4: was the fixer, even though you weren't necessarily. 460 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 5: Present like, yeah, I get your brother, he treat me 461 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 5: cause how. 462 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 3: Much older was even here? 463 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 5: Three years? Oh okay? 464 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 3: So yeah wow. Well so then that led you into 465 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 3: after that? 466 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 5: Uh yeah, I was like, yo, you something was wrong 467 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 5: with you again? Well how did you? 468 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 3: How did you deal with that? 469 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 5: I mean like did it a media? 470 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 3: Alcohol? 471 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 5: Another thing too? Around that time, I was in couples therapy. 472 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 5: Me and that next girlfriend were a couples therapy. 473 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, so therapy was already were already introduced to it 474 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 4: at that point. 475 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 5: Couples. Yeah, we were in couples therapiy when this all 476 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 5: went down. 477 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 3: That's pretty young to be in couples therapy. I thought 478 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 3: I would w no, I think it's good. I don't. 479 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 1: I think a lot of like non married, younger couples 480 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: don't consider that is an option. 481 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 5: It wasn't like I was just like, yeah, let's go. 482 00:22:55,920 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 5: I s she was definite. You know what it was like. 483 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 5: I never said no, I will let me say. I'm like, 484 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 5: I don't wen't really need it. But I was like, 485 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 5: all right, I put it on her to find it, 486 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 5: like you find a therapist. And then I'd be like, nah, man, 487 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 5: I don't like them. I'm not paying for that, Like 488 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,479 Speaker 5: I wouldn't make an excuse, it wasn't even about that. 489 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 5: I was just like, yeah, right. And then something had 490 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 5: happened in our relationship that nothing like super drastic or 491 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 5: anything like that, but something happened. I was like, you 492 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 5: know what. I finally was like, let's do this, Like 493 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 5: we can go, I'll be fully in president and all 494 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 5: that shit. But amongst all of that, you know, with 495 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 5: my brother and whatnot, even in just couplestery, even before 496 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 5: him dying, I was like, man, something ain't right. And 497 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 5: I knew that. I know, at hell I can be 498 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,239 Speaker 5: in this relationship until I get me fixed. And if 499 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 5: I'm not healed, how in the hell can I be 500 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 5: for this woman? And that kind of was implanted through 501 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 5: therapy because we were going through individual stuff as we're 502 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 5: in couples therapy. She would talk about her individual up 503 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 5: growing up in mine, and you know, our therapist is 504 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 5: kind of given us the back and forth on how 505 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 5: we grew up and all that things and how we 506 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 5: interact and behave in a relationship. Your triggers right, and 507 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 5: then like stuff like how are your parents' relationships and 508 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 5: that thing is a huge thing that we don't pay 509 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 5: attention to M. What you see growing up is M 510 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 5: what you're born and likely to indulate or accept as 511 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 5: love and what it should be or run from or 512 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 5: run from correct. But like I said, I was in there. 513 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 5: I'm like, man, something that's not right. And then this 514 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 5: happens and I'm like, yeah, it's definitely it's not right. 515 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 5: And like I was self medicating with alcohol and shit. 516 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 5: I would come home and just kill a bottle and 517 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 5: pass out on the couch and get up and go 518 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 5: to work again. And then, uh, I don't know. One 519 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 5: day I was like, man, one day I just came home, 520 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 5: I got do aught a liquor in my house. I 521 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 5: backed it up. She came home from work and I 522 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 5: was like, get this shit the hell up out of here. 523 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 5: She took it right out. She didn't even hesitate. I 524 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 5: got in a therapy a week after that, and it's 525 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,959 Speaker 5: been on ever since. So how long did it take 526 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,479 Speaker 5: you to find the therapist for you? 527 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 3: Was it the same one that you guys were already seeing. 528 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, she couldn't. I don't legally, I don't 529 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 5: think she could. 530 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 3: So have you see a couple as a couple, it's 531 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 3: legally it's. 532 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 5: Like, yeah, it's like I don't know about legally, but 533 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,159 Speaker 5: they wouldn't want to, like unless we were going to 534 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 5: come back as a couple. Biased And now she's seen 535 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,719 Speaker 5: us together, so she was like, unless you guys come 536 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 5: back together, I don't want to see either or you 537 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 5: know what I mean? 538 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: Are you still seeing a therapist? Isn't the same therapists 539 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 1: you started? 540 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 2: No? 541 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 5: No, no, I I have a black woman now. My 542 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:34,360 Speaker 5: first one moves Colombia. 543 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 3: Okay, Columbia. Yeah, why is it kind of what kind 544 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 3: of very specific, specific. 545 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 5: Specific accent. I'm like, where are you from? She's like Columbia. 546 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 5: I was like, all right, cool. And then I got 547 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 5: a black woman because she moved, she changed offices. She's 548 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 5: like further around. I was like, I'm not driving out there. 549 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 5: And then I got a black woman, so I've been 550 00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 5: whatever since she's. 551 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 1: One thing I think I noticed amongst men that's different 552 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: from women is that women we will call our girlfriends 553 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: up and be like I'm coming over. I'm bringing this whiskey. 554 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 3: And I might cry. 555 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 8: You know. 556 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 3: It's totally normal. 557 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: To have this kind of like therapeutic camaraderie, camaraderie amongst women, 558 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 1: to hug each other to be, you know, vulnerable with 559 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: each other more so than I think it is men 560 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 1: they do. I think it may be only give. 561 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 3: In your friends. 562 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 5: No, no, men get together and ya listen. I think 563 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 5: there's no when a homies is hurt behind a woman, 564 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 5: but not even behind a woman. 565 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 4: Maybe a woman, but not like what else deeper than that? 566 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,360 Speaker 4: Now time when guys it's very surface, that's not I'm 567 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 4: digging deep. 568 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 5: And some of them do. 569 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 3: There are, don't get me wrong, there are, but like I. 570 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 5: Feel like I'll give you that. They'll do it and 571 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 5: it won't be the conversation will necessarily come up. We'll 572 00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 5: just want to be around our guys in a way 573 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 5: from that as opposed to be talking about it. So 574 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 5: I'll give you that. 575 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: Or just like to embrace one another, to like hiss 576 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: your friend on the cheek and be like it's okay, wait. 577 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 5: A minute, you want more? Should get rid of my glass? 578 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 3: Well, I didn't know. I thought I was gonna thought 579 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 3: I was gonna knock it over. But he told you 580 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 3: he threw away the liquor. 581 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 5: You were like, but no, this is the thing now. 582 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 5: So now every year I don't drink for like four 583 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 5: months out the year January second, there's no alcohol until 584 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 5: like spring break ish. I do this every year, so that's, 585 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 5: you know, get dried for a minute, then I can 586 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 5: kill my body the rest of the year. 587 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 3: Sounds healthy, sounds really healthy. 588 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 5: She start off just to start off the year of 589 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 5: clear mind. Uh, you know all that workout shit clean. 590 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 5: At least I started portioning it the year out clear 591 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 5: and getting into work, and then after that, whatever happens. 592 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 3: Have you ever tried to stop? Have you ever done it? 593 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm not going vacation, sweetest is not my thing. Yeah, edibles, 594 00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 5: alimals dying because I'm one of those people like what 595 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 5: I'll call you after a shout or to you start 596 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 5: feeling something for me weed, I don't feel anything right 597 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 5: and then and so like edibles and shit. So I'll, 598 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 5: you know, give me edible telling me all this shit trash. 599 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 3: I am not an edible person. 600 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 5: We're still right here. 601 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 8: Yeah. 602 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 3: I think I just keep fine. Yeah, okay, I'm not can't. 603 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 5: So you know, I keep my weed into too. Yeah. 604 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 5: When I go on vacation then I'm small. But other 605 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 5: than that, I won't do it here. 606 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: So so other than the document series having how many 607 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 1: episodes did this part? 608 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 5: We have forty forty two guys recorded. That's a lot. Yeah. 609 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 4: You go about finding like some of more friends and 610 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 4: they're just are they shy about opening up? 611 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 3: And what are you asking them? 612 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 2: Like? 613 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 3: What kind of questions? Like do you ask all of 614 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 3: them to share with our listeners? 615 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 5: Are you when we do the videos? 616 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? 617 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 5: Like what are or how I ask them to come beyond? 618 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 3: No? 619 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 5: What are the kind of questions that you asked them? 620 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 5: So there are twelve questions start with. So how it works? 621 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 5: You introduce yourself, who you are, what you do. You've 622 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 5: got something to promote. I sell the book Illus, my 623 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 5: name is and I do this whatever you want to 624 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 5: intro yourself with. That's all you. We started about ten 625 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 5: or twelve questions and it's normally and it's just to 626 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 5: get you talking right. So the first one is like 627 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 5: have you been in therapy? Yes or no? Depending on 628 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 5: what you answer no, and. 629 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 3: What do you find? Mostly the answer is a. 630 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 5: Majority of I gone really well. Again, most of the 631 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 5: guys are retired NFL athletes. I come from the athlete world, 632 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 5: so a lot of a lot of my friends are 633 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 5: just guys that I played against in college. And all 634 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 5: that shit, and I've met along the way or just 635 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 5: guys that grew up with. So most of the guys 636 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 5: are athletes, pro athletes, and then my entertainment friends that 637 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 5: I've met along the way as well, So all the 638 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 5: guys are professional black men. I eventually want to get 639 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 5: to your every day man that doesn't have a platform, 640 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 5: that's you know, doesn't have very many fucking followers, you 641 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 5: every day man. Eventually actually take this back. Eventually. I 642 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 5: don't want to have to do this. 643 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 3: Like you want people to just I want I. 644 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 5: Want tomalize this wh I'm no longer needed. The idea 645 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 5: is to normalize vulnerability for black man. So when you 646 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 5: see a black man and he's opening up about whatever, 647 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 5: he's not being shunned about it. He's not being called 648 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 5: a bitch, he's not being told a man up or 649 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 5: and or you know, I want to normalize it. You know, hey, man, amen, 650 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 5: I feel like crap right now, and nigga listen to me, Boom, 651 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 5: get it out the way. 652 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 3: Sure, go ahead. 653 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 4: So as someone that's you know, on this journey and 654 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 4: empowering you know, men to embrace that vulnerability. What are 655 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 4: your what are you like hanging out with your homeboys, Like, 656 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 4: are all your friends like just open? 657 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 5: Me and my group of friends has been very open 658 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 5: about everything in our lives. Okay, yeah, No, my group 659 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 5: of friends have always been very open. We've never you know, 660 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 5: it might take us a while to finally say something, 661 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 5: but in all of my group chats, my guys are 662 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 5: very and it doesn't matter what it is kids, you know, 663 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 5: relationships just bad day to day. We've always and this 664 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 5: is before I even went the therapy, so it's not 665 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 5: like I went to therapy and all of a sudden 666 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 5: the floodgates. But no, we've always been very open because 667 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 5: they always you know, you always just want of each 668 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 5: other's opinions on shit, you know, or just something to 669 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 5: talk about. So now, my group of friends particular, have 670 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 5: always been very open always. I can't say that, you know, 671 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 5: for everybody else, but my group has always been open. 672 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: Very mature of your friends, very healthy and mature. 673 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 5: As I say this all the time, like I've. 674 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 4: Been very we might need to hang out with them, 675 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 4: have any issues being vulnerable? 676 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 5: Okay men doing It's entirely different though, right, So I'm saying, 677 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 5: like hanging out with a group of men, go Yeah, 678 00:31:59,480 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 5: what does. 679 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 3: She evenburis, Oh, let's give them the whole thing. 680 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 5: We're going to continue this. So we got to wait 681 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 5: for the. 682 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 4: Cold because we posit and we have the segment on 683 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 4: our show where we'll play elevator music when the kids interact, 684 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 4: so like, you know, it's real, Mom. 685 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 3: And Ship. 686 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 5: Almost don't know me. I've listened to about seven episodes. 687 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 5: I do my research. 688 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 3: Which ones did you listen to? 689 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 5: Ship? All your most recent ones? Who was the Blood 690 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 5: and Crib Baby Mama? I listened to The make Up 691 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 5: Lady before that, the you guys have the one with 692 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 5: the Medium? Uh did you? 693 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 4: By the way, if you haven't listened to our mom 694 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 4: Cello episode, you're. 695 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 5: Missing, don't be a psycho. This is your reason one. Yeah, 696 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 5: currently listen, Brandon says. So as he was like, yo, 697 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 5: we were shooting, and he was like, you know, my 698 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 5: you know, niece's friends have a podcast, and I'm one 699 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 5: of those people like I support my friends and that ship. 700 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 2: Right. 701 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 5: I've been on Brandon maybe nine years now, and he 702 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 5: said that, you know, her friends have a podcast. Thank you. 703 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 3: Thanks. 704 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 5: That's how friendships are supposed to know what I'm saying, Like, 705 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 5: it doesn't take much for you to subscribe to something, 706 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 5: to take listening to nothing out of my day, you 707 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 5: know what I mean. Listen, it's not it doesn't take 708 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 5: anything away from me to sit and listen to something 709 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 5: and share it. 710 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: It's like, and my theory is, if you're friends with 711 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: someone I'm close with, then we're like. 712 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 3: Basically friends and if they like you, you should I 713 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 3: should like you and. 714 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 5: You should be yeah, right, like it would be your friend. 715 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 3: Okay, that's how we're friends, literally should That's how. 716 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 5: We so you know, yeah, I'm tuned in a bit. 717 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 5: All right, we're back now you ready? 718 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we stopped. I didn't stop, but I know 719 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 4: sometimes I do that. I can just cut that and 720 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 4: start where we were just talking. 721 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 3: I got cameras, cranbers aways, got the cameras. 722 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 5: I'm back. 723 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: Okay, good, great, Oh okay, So I was asking it 724 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 1: you have all these episodes, I mean all these you know, 725 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: different men discussing their vulnerability, like what is your goal? 726 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:15,760 Speaker 1: Like are you going to create? 727 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 3: Like have you had meetups where people have. 728 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:23,959 Speaker 5: Like, yeah, we'll be doing events soon. Again, I didn't 729 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 5: say this, but I didn't even want to. I wanted 730 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 5: to just do mine. It was for me. It was 731 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 5: a personal thing that I was like, just do this 732 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 5: for you being and I did it, and my son 733 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 5: did want to. I was gonna ask you if you yeah, 734 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 5: my son. I made my son watch me do it. 735 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 5: My son comes here every summer for a vacation and ship, 736 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 5: so he watched me do it. Where did you? But yeah, 737 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 5: he watched me do it. I wanted him to see 738 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 5: what it looks like when a man this vulnerable opens 739 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 5: up and a lot of these things he doesn't know, 740 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 5: because not that he shouldn't know, but as a parent, 741 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 5: sometimes do you feel like you're in not giving them 742 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 5: you You feel like you're protecting them, but you could 743 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 5: be doing them a disservice because there are times where 744 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 5: I've parented and reacted to him with things that had 745 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 5: nothing to do with him. And now that he knows that, 746 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 5: sometimes Dad doesn't even feel like being dad right now, 747 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 5: I don't even feel like being a parent, dude. And 748 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 5: so sometimes my demeanor or my actions or something that 749 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 5: I might say has nothing to do with you, son. 750 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 5: It's coming from a different place life or whatever is happening. 751 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 5: So I wanted him to be able to see that 752 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 5: and understand that, you know, you think I'm superman, I'm not. Dad, 753 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:41,879 Speaker 5: He's not super Has your son seen you cry? Oh yeah, yeah, 754 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 5: he saw, man. Listen. I was almost cried during my video, 755 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 5: but he saw me cry. Uh man, This was some 756 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 5: of the hardest things I've rather do when I had 757 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 5: to tell him that my brother, his uncle, committed suicide. 758 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 5: Oh my god. My dad made me do it, right, 759 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 5: because his mom wanted to tell him, and my dad 760 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 5: He's like, no, it's the man's job. He's his father. 761 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 5: He needed to tell him. I was like, man, but 762 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 5: he was right though. I needed to be the one 763 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 5: to tell him. That is you know, his uncle passed away, 764 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,879 Speaker 5: and as a parent, you're supposed to protect your kids 765 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 5: from you want to protect them from her and me 766 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 5: telling you this is going to devastate you. So I'm 767 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 5: already feeling like. 768 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 3: Shit, fack so and you're devastated. 769 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 5: Too, exactly right. So I told him and he just 770 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 5: I picked him up from school. We in a parking lot. 771 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 5: He just had to look on his I don't never 772 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 5: want to see that shit again ever. Hell now, and 773 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 5: his heart just crumbled and I bald. He was crying. 774 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,879 Speaker 5: I was crying. I was crying one because I lost 775 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 5: my brother, but I'm also crying because I just hurt 776 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 5: my son with the news, you know what I mean. So, yeah, 777 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 5: he saw me. He saw me cry at the funeral. 778 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 5: And when his grandmother died, you know, I called him up. 779 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 5: His grandmother passed of uh his mom's mom document cancer, 780 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 5: and you know that was he watched her with her away. 781 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 5: Has he ever seen you cry? Not out of pain, no, 782 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,839 Speaker 5: like happiness or anything like that. You've seen me teary eyed. 783 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 5: But a lot of times when I look at him 784 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 5: and he's doing things, he doesn't see me. He's in 785 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 5: the middle of doing it, so he doesn't see me 786 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,839 Speaker 5: like super hype and he's so emotional like you get teote, right, 787 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 5: But I'm. 788 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 3: Just going around. I have There's definitely been moments where 789 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 3: I'm like wow, where I have. 790 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 4: Moments where I'm like, it's crazy the love I have. 791 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 4: It makes me emotional, I know, you know. 792 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,359 Speaker 5: But I also like to stay out of his way 793 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 5: when he's doing things, you know what I mean, Like 794 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 5: if he's playing sports or yeah, I like to stay 795 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 5: in the back, like I don't you know. I try 796 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 5: not to speak too much, like I cheer for him, 797 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 5: of course, but I try not to, Like, I just 798 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 5: don't want to take the moment away from my son. 799 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 5: I be in a bat away, you know what I'm saying, 800 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 5: Like I'd be in a bat chairing like a motherfucker. 801 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 5: I just I just don't want to be that parent 802 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 5: that's all out in the mix, like this is my son. 803 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 3: Right, you know what I'm like. 804 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. 805 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:05,839 Speaker 3: You know, he told me to stop and be like, okay, 806 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 3: which just chill. 807 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 5: I'll have a sign though. It's funny. And then so 808 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 5: now you're like my son being older, he doesn't like 809 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 5: me coming to a school and ship and. 810 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,879 Speaker 3: That because he's older. I'm not ready for that. 811 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 5: No, yes, that, but but like girls, Yeah, I was 812 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 5: gonna ask you. 813 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 3: About that because I feel like girls like what he 814 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 3: doesn't want. 815 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 5: You to know the girl he likes. No, he doesn't 816 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 5: want them to talk to him about his father. So 817 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 5: I'll show up on campus and he looks. 818 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 4: Good, like they like, damn, that's no girls day. 819 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,439 Speaker 3: Because you're so handsome and you are you look young? 820 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,479 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah yeah, He's like like I got it because 821 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 5: I'll show up on campus and they'll see me no text. 822 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, daddy here. He gets really mad. 823 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,640 Speaker 3: Oh no, He's like, dad, just pull around the corner. 824 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 5: He's like, yeah, he really does. 825 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 4: Like you know what, thinking back, there were some dads 826 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 4: when I was a little girl, but I was like, who's. 827 00:38:58,239 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 5: That was my dad? 828 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 3: I'm sure yeah. 829 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 5: My father was like, oh, oh your daddy here, it's 830 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 5: not your daddy. So he doesn't he doesn't like. 831 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,720 Speaker 3: Me to you chill in the car. Okay, like older 832 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 3: guys high school hose love and older man, sit your ass. 833 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 5: In the car if I go to his games, assumption 834 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 5: I got to sit up top, like I can't wear 835 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,359 Speaker 5: a hat. I like to be close, like I like. 836 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 3: Son, they're letting him shame. You live your best life? 837 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 1: Tell me then, all the single moms at the school 838 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 1: with my number, Oh. 839 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, what's been your experience with that? Have you had 840 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 4: like single moms like like throughout your education and like 841 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 4: oh yeah, and as a dad and as a teacher. 842 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,280 Speaker 4: I mean, I know you guys, he lives in Vegas, 843 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,319 Speaker 4: but like, have you encountered like the single mom, because 844 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 4: you know, a single mom's there's always a reputation that 845 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 4: we like I were thirsty. 846 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, we're just not safe. It's not safe. 847 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,479 Speaker 3: You know what that is? Like an unspoken single mom. 848 00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 3: Everyone feels that way. 849 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,839 Speaker 1: But it's definitely stereotype, like don't bring the single mom 850 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 1: to the married party. 851 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 3: Is it? Do you think we made it that it real? 852 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:05,839 Speaker 5: No, I think it is. 853 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 4: I don't think it's that deep. But I think there 854 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 4: are people that think about her. Maybe don't trust you. 855 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 1: I've heard I've heard Mary will say they should not 856 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 1: have single friends, which I think is very strung. 857 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, I've never been married. How has it been being 858 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 5: an educator? 859 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 2: Oh? 860 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, even in the school, like being a teacher. Yeah, 861 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 3: have you had any affairs with. 862 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 5: Science teacher? 863 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 3: Okay, you can tell us excited we got tell us 864 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 3: school district stories. 865 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,280 Speaker 1: It's happening in the faculty janitor's room. 866 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 3: We watched way too. 867 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 5: That sounds like I typically don't mix business with plus 868 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 5: what I knew it. So at one point when I 869 00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 5: said I never really moved back, I moved back home 870 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 5: to Vegas for a short period of time, and that's 871 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 5: when I first got into teaching. I was teaching algib 872 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,879 Speaker 5: be full time and then I taught English after that. 873 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 5: My first year teaching algebra, I had a mom walk 874 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 5: into my classroom. It was fifth hour, walk into my 875 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 5: classroom and she was like, oh, I came to check 876 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 5: on my daughter. And I was like, I mean, okay, yeah, 877 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 5: I'm telling you no, but like in my head, I'm 878 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 5: thinking your daughter makes straight a's and maybe you just 879 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 5: jumping in on her classroom is the reason why. But 880 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 5: I didn't quit. 881 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh it was her daughter, like time mom. 882 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, like her daughter looked at her. He was confused too, 883 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 5: like I'm like, well, she's sitting down to my daughter. 884 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,440 Speaker 5: She was like what are you And so, you know, 885 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 5: they chopped it up for a quick seconds. She's like, well, 886 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 5: if you ever have any problems, and she gave me 887 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 5: your dress, like I live at I forgot the address. 888 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 3: She's like, I live remember my address. 889 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,000 Speaker 5: The address which is like right literally right down the 890 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 5: street from the school. 891 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 3: She's ever from her straight up. 892 00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 5: Please don't like no number, Like, please don't hesitate because 893 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 5: I lived down the street from the school. And I'm like, 894 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:04,359 Speaker 5: she wear. 895 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 3: Like an extra sexy summer dress. 896 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 5: And she had a son, Catok. And I was at 897 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 5: a club one time. And I was at the club 898 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 5: one time. Man, she wasn't a student in my class. 899 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 5: She was a student at the school, and uh, I 900 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 5: don't know how word got around, but anyway, I was 901 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 5: at the club my boys or whatnot, and I'm walking 902 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 5: and she has an older sister that is around my 903 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,280 Speaker 5: age and her mother. They were all at the club together, 904 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 5: and the sister and the mama, the older sister. So 905 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 5: the student that I was at my school, she has 906 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 5: an older sister. So I was walking through and all 907 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 5: of a sudden, two little ladies jump right in front 908 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:54,239 Speaker 5: of me, mister Williams. 909 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 3: And I was like, double fist drinks. 910 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 5: I definitely had some hitty in my They're like, mister 911 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 5: Willis and I'm like, yeah, what's up? And they did 912 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,880 Speaker 5: start asking me questions, but they would answer like one 913 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 5: would answer the question, the other just asked. 914 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 3: And it was so you weren't saying. 915 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 5: I didn't really get a chance to. It was like, 916 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:13,359 Speaker 5: oh you teach at all? 917 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 3: My daughter? 918 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 5: U okay, all right, so what's up? And so the 919 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 5: daughter pressed the issue extremely hard, and the mom called 920 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 5: an attitude, So like, daughter pressed my issue with the 921 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 5: are so like we're chopping enough with it. I'm faded 922 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 5: at the times. I'm definitely just having a good time. 923 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 5: So she pressed my issue like tough, so you know, 924 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 5: exchange numbers. You know, I say bye to the mom. 925 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 5: The mom gives me an all attitude. 926 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 3: This is not the same mom who gave you her address. 927 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 5: No, she gives me all attitude. To be clear, and 928 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 5: I'm not trying to tell nobody business, so I can. 929 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:55,439 Speaker 3: We don't know that mom. 930 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, but they might listen. They followed me on social media, 931 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,319 Speaker 5: so like the whole family, they love, they love. 932 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:03,719 Speaker 1: I don't know. 933 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 5: I don't know if I'm not gonna give super specific, 934 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:07,239 Speaker 5: but anyway. 935 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 3: We don't know. 936 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 5: Sometimes it was by me and a daughter hang out dude, 937 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 5: due the mom and a daughter get in an argument. 938 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:15,800 Speaker 3: So is the mama jealous? 939 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 5: She's coming to sort of coming to l A. And 940 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,239 Speaker 5: then she calls me like, hey, we're coming to LA 941 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 5: coming with us for something to eat, And I'm like, God, 942 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 5: for sure, just let me know when you get in, 943 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,040 Speaker 5: I'll link up with y'all. Boom. I get a call 944 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 5: a couple hours later, she's like, Yo, me and mom 945 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 5: just gotten to it. I was like, damn, what happened. 946 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:36,240 Speaker 5: I don't know what happened. She's like, apparently she's jealous 947 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 5: that I jumped on you before she did, and I 948 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:39,879 Speaker 5: was like, well, you know all. 949 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 3: I could think about his best picture as a parent, 950 00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 3: and I. 951 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,239 Speaker 5: Just really now in my head, I'm feeling myself right 952 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 5: at the same time, I was like, it's cool and 953 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 5: it's also weird. 954 00:44:55,680 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 6: That's kind of incredible, incredible, kind of like my poor 955 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 6: and dream country, kind of like I knew this moment. 956 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 3: Last night on you. 957 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 5: I got some stories, man, I can't you know. I 958 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 5: know your audience's moms. Are you kidding? 959 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,879 Speaker 3: I got some stories our moms or not your mom 960 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:17,319 Speaker 3: next door? 961 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 5: No. One of my classrooms, I had a prep and 962 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 5: prep was like it was block scheduling. She was like 963 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:28,919 Speaker 5: eighty minutes and am on a woman that I knew, 964 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 5: though I knew her, she had got off for girls. 965 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 5: She had a job, and if you came by my 966 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 5: class like I'm stop by, I was. 967 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 3: Like her student goes to your school. No, she was 968 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 3: just gonna come swing by works. 969 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 5: Because I was training too, and I was training, and 970 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 5: she would become in the groups that I was training. 971 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 5: Sometimes she's like I'm gonna stop by. She was happy 972 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 5: she got the job that she interview before. I was like, 973 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:49,720 Speaker 5: you know, I'm at. 974 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 3: Work right so we can't really celebrate it NOWT. 975 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 5: Like, yeah, I'm grading papers and ship. This is when 976 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:57,920 Speaker 5: I was teaching English. I was greating papers like I'm 977 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:02,239 Speaker 5: just stop by, like all right, cool. So I'm in 978 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,400 Speaker 5: my class and when I'm on prep, I want nobody 979 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,040 Speaker 5: in my room. I turn off like half the lights, 980 00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 5: locked the doors, like, you know, no disturbances, like I 981 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 5: like my piece. And so she can't buy a boom? 982 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,000 Speaker 3: What's on prep like for the next class? 983 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,440 Speaker 5: So you know you have essentially you teach five class 984 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 5: and you have six hour off because by the law 985 00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 5: you have to have one right, So normally it's a 986 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:23,920 Speaker 5: prep he. 987 00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,359 Speaker 3: Alone time, yes and. 988 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 5: So, And I'm grading papers, not really paying her no mind. 989 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,520 Speaker 5: I'm like small talk though, how's the job and if 990 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 5: you're going, how to go whatever. But I'm greating papers, 991 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 5: not paying her no mind. And all of a sudden, 992 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 5: she sits on my desk. No pennies on, Yeah, panties on. 993 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 5: I'm looking right, so my desk details, so my desk 994 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 5: as I'm sitting at my teacher's desk, you know, the 995 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 5: student's desk right there, So she said an then she 996 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 5: got up from that desk and set on my papers 997 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 5: that I'm great, So that's how I saw. 998 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 1: Wait, okay, I have a question. How'd you guys have 999 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:10,760 Speaker 1: slept together prior to this point? 1000 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,799 Speaker 3: Oh? Okay, she was feeling she got the job. She 1001 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,840 Speaker 3: said she had the signs that they were there that 1002 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:17,719 Speaker 3: this could go down. 1003 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 5: No woman's doing that women do. 1004 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 3: If there's not any that's a pretty both shot at 1005 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:27,759 Speaker 3: your job on your fifth hour. 1006 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:29,920 Speaker 5: I don't know. Maybe, I mean I don't I'm not 1007 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 5: a woman, so I don't know the like, I don't. 1008 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:32,360 Speaker 3: Know what happened. 1009 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 5: Did you do it or not? Of course I did. Yeah, 1010 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 5: of course I'm gonna do Like I'm gonna turn that 1011 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 5: down at school. 1012 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's horry. Ever, I'm gonna turn it at school. 1013 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:45,399 Speaker 5: Cool. 1014 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 3: I mean I would do it too. 1015 00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 5: Like, I have one question. Did any videotape? 1016 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:58,239 Speaker 3: That's your question? Really, I want to see that. 1017 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 5: This was years ago. The phone wasn't uh visual, when 1018 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,439 Speaker 5: you couldn't film movies on phones. This is a while back. 1019 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,799 Speaker 5: But yet, of course, did you. 1020 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:11,879 Speaker 3: Guys like start dating after that? 1021 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:12,239 Speaker 2: Or like? 1022 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:13,799 Speaker 3: Was there any other classrooms set? 1023 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:14,799 Speaker 5: You have to be really quiet. 1024 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,520 Speaker 3: Did you put a hand or her mouth? Is there 1025 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,759 Speaker 3: a little window those little like could anyone who walked in, 1026 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:21,400 Speaker 3: like did you have to go on the back in 1027 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:22,919 Speaker 3: the corner because of the window. 1028 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,959 Speaker 5: You could have knocked on my door, but my doors 1029 00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 5: a lot, but you definitely could see oh bold, I'm 1030 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 5: not turning that down, not that, not that partectly. I 1031 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:33,200 Speaker 5: mean you can't. 1032 00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:34,839 Speaker 3: I really feel like you can't be a teacher and 1033 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:35,960 Speaker 3: not embark on that journey. 1034 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 5: You kind of have to. 1035 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:38,560 Speaker 3: I feel like that's definitely. 1036 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,879 Speaker 5: How you feel like you got at least Christian men. 1037 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 4: And women together and then place consistently someone's fucking I. 1038 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:45,400 Speaker 3: Think specific teachers. 1039 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 5: I don't mess with me, but I'm just saying. 1040 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 3: But well, yeah, because that's like you can't working. 1041 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,759 Speaker 5: Plus I don't I don't make this working pluss, but 1042 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,280 Speaker 5: people do. People do it all the time. I personally 1043 00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,719 Speaker 5: just don't mix business in any workplace, Like I don't 1044 00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,719 Speaker 5: mess with models and ship like I do not mix 1045 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,359 Speaker 5: business with pleas. I try. One just wasn't for me. 1046 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 5: I don't need the business of question actresses, none of 1047 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:05,399 Speaker 5: that ship. 1048 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,640 Speaker 3: I generally don't like this mixing business. 1049 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 5: They're beautiful. Bird is fun, but not for me, rather not. 1050 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:14,840 Speaker 5: But yeah, no, no, we didn't record that I was 1051 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:16,759 Speaker 5: in the moment that the last thing I was thinking 1052 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,160 Speaker 5: about was grabbing my phone. 1053 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,960 Speaker 3: Oh my god, little boldie. Yeah that's hot. Now, yeah, 1054 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 3: I think that's a good idea. 1055 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 5: What what was the funny thing? 1056 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:32,440 Speaker 2: Right? 1057 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:35,760 Speaker 3: Just thinking about classroom sex? 1058 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,240 Speaker 5: Like I'll talk about being a teacher, and then sometimes 1059 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:42,120 Speaker 5: I get like I've been asked a few times about 1060 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 5: the girls. I'm like, are you kidding? 1061 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 8: No? 1062 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:46,120 Speaker 5: Who some guys? 1063 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,000 Speaker 3: Some guys those friends off there. 1064 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,319 Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't say there were my friends. I'm saying 1065 00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:52,680 Speaker 5: in conversation, like, y's rape. 1066 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 3: Save the house? Just because of that? 1067 00:49:56,160 --> 00:50:00,600 Speaker 5: What Now, I'm just a sub substitute teacher, so okay, 1068 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:01,640 Speaker 5: But when I. 1069 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:05,239 Speaker 3: Was tenured, wit, Wait, what what grade do you subs 1070 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,280 Speaker 3: to teach them? Is there a certain just whatever? 1071 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,120 Speaker 5: Like so what l A U. S D. I just 1072 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,799 Speaker 5: do secondary so six through twelve, and I'm also went 1073 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:13,880 Speaker 5: down and unified so I can do K through twelve. 1074 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 5: I tried to just do high school. 1075 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,640 Speaker 4: But what are there as? I honestly don't even know 1076 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,480 Speaker 4: how that's that's a tute t shirt. How it works, 1077 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,280 Speaker 4: like you have to like you specialize in a certain 1078 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:27,239 Speaker 4: that you do mostly. 1079 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,960 Speaker 5: English and history, can you do it all? 1080 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,399 Speaker 4: You got to know everything, because that's why I could 1081 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,400 Speaker 4: never be a teacher because math, I. 1082 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,360 Speaker 3: Don't know do English. 1083 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:38,800 Speaker 1: When you said kind of like do you have to 1084 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:42,000 Speaker 1: tell you to? But back to the weird topic at 1085 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:42,840 Speaker 1: hand about. 1086 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:47,839 Speaker 5: You, Or they'll say something like the girls have grown. 1087 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,399 Speaker 5: U'm like like, oh my god. 1088 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:51,520 Speaker 3: First of all, I'm you. 1089 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,200 Speaker 4: You know, those niggas exist, but when they were those 1090 00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,440 Speaker 4: at that age at one point, the part is. 1091 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,680 Speaker 3: That I was that student. 1092 00:50:58,800 --> 00:50:58,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1093 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not that there's any hot teachers at my school, 1094 00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:06,560 Speaker 1: but I was definitely fucking guys that are way too 1095 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,719 Speaker 1: old to be fucking with me, some of which knew 1096 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:09,440 Speaker 1: how old I was. 1097 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 3: And then my baby's daddy. It's very rapy, it is ray, 1098 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 3: it is right. 1099 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,640 Speaker 1: So my baby's daddy, my baby's dead, My baby's dead. 1100 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,480 Speaker 3: My baby's daddy was working out, you know, at the job. 1101 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,960 Speaker 1: He was working as a coach and for the boys, 1102 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,360 Speaker 1: like maybe like a young boy's. 1103 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,480 Speaker 5: Team high school. 1104 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,400 Speaker 3: No not, this is like that. Yeah, my babydaddy was 1105 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,920 Speaker 3: my high school start grown. He started working at a school. 1106 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,359 Speaker 1: So one day he was at the gym he had 1107 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,200 Speaker 1: to take the girls volleyball team or something back to 1108 00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,760 Speaker 1: the gym, and he was like, jam like these little 1109 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:50,080 Speaker 1: fucking stores, like what he's like in the cars, just 1110 00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,520 Speaker 1: like snapchat me that pussy. 1111 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,920 Speaker 3: Like you're just saying, you know, like grown shit. And 1112 00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,359 Speaker 3: have you seen the twelfth graders these days? 1113 00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,160 Speaker 5: They look older than me, looked like twelve grades. But 1114 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,400 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm only able to say this because I 1115 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:04,319 Speaker 5: see them every day. 1116 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,440 Speaker 4: Well I think maybe because you also know their mind 1117 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,880 Speaker 4: that the body doesn't affect you. But if you just 1118 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 4: look at some of these girls, they look grown. Like 1119 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,319 Speaker 4: I just took my brother. My brother just went to prom. 1120 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 3: And she looked like the picture though, yeah, go ahead, 1121 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:23,160 Speaker 3: she did. 1122 00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,640 Speaker 4: But even me, though low key, I always got to 1123 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,359 Speaker 4: approach my older guys because I literally looked. 1124 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:29,160 Speaker 5: Like this because they were. 1125 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:34,360 Speaker 3: No, no, but I was mature. I know you're mature, 1126 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:37,000 Speaker 3: but I was mature too. But that's not any reason 1127 00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,200 Speaker 3: to be like so it's not no, it's not. But 1128 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:40,279 Speaker 3: I'm just saying that, like. 1129 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,040 Speaker 5: It was confusing, but here's my thing, right. 1130 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,240 Speaker 10: And then it wouldn't matter after that, but it should, 1131 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,000 Speaker 10: but you know, I know, but I'm like, we have 1132 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,439 Speaker 10: to be able to have this conversation with Lennen and Iri, 1133 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,640 Speaker 10: because I think it's important that they know, like it's 1134 00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:53,320 Speaker 10: very rapy. 1135 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 3: It's not about your maturity. It's not about it. 1136 00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,560 Speaker 5: It's I was just speaking on like the look of 1137 00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:02,200 Speaker 5: high school girls when you removed from high school for 1138 00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,640 Speaker 5: so long, and when you did and then then you 1139 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,239 Speaker 5: see one, You're like, oh, they look at like they 1140 00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,560 Speaker 5: look wrong. But no, as because I've been in education 1141 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 5: so long, you know what I mean, Like they do 1142 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,440 Speaker 5: not look they look like they might be developed BodyWise. 1143 00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:18,240 Speaker 5: There's kids with full grown beers just still look eighteen. 1144 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:19,640 Speaker 5: I had to go teen in. 1145 00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,960 Speaker 3: High school, right and probably having one conversation. 1146 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:24,320 Speaker 5: You know what I mean, Like I had a mustache 1147 00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:25,759 Speaker 5: in eighth grade. Like I was one of those I 1148 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,319 Speaker 5: had this voice in eighth grade, you know what I mean. 1149 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 5: So yeah, I got another story. I had sex with 1150 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,640 Speaker 5: my teacher when I was in high school. So I 1151 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,960 Speaker 5: was one of those kids you were like all the episodes. 1152 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,080 Speaker 5: I was definitely that kid in high school. I definitely 1153 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:41,240 Speaker 5: she was married. 1154 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:43,560 Speaker 3: Wait in twelfth grade or what grade? 1155 00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:44,640 Speaker 5: I was a senior? 1156 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:51,000 Speaker 3: Were you where are you this thing? 1157 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,800 Speaker 5: This is my thing with her? You were friends on Facebook? 1158 00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 5: That's funny it's not the appeal isn't the same. So 1159 00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:03,800 Speaker 5: did she seek you out or did you seek herss? 1160 00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,960 Speaker 3: So this is the thing, see him seeking out his teacher, 1161 00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:07,040 Speaker 3: and this is the thing. 1162 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:11,080 Speaker 5: I uh. Ever, since my freshman year, she would say 1163 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,239 Speaker 5: little shit and my immature mind wasn't picking up on 1164 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,400 Speaker 5: the cues. It would be shiped like she wasn't. I 1165 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,879 Speaker 5: never had her for in a class, like she wasn't 1166 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,160 Speaker 5: my specific teachers, the teacher at my school, I've never 1167 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,600 Speaker 5: had her for a class. But you know, walking around campus, 1168 00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,480 Speaker 5: I would walk by the room or walk by her 1169 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,239 Speaker 5: and she would say dumb shit like you know me, me, 1170 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,000 Speaker 5: we got b for some shit like me me in 1171 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,000 Speaker 5: my class after school. And she did actually curriculas you 1172 00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,560 Speaker 5: know after school as well, like fashion clubs. 1173 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:36,000 Speaker 8: She like that. 1174 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,000 Speaker 5: She'd like, you know, comes to the class after school 1175 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:39,919 Speaker 5: and I'd be like, hah, I keep walking. I never 1176 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:44,680 Speaker 5: picked up on it until she started throwing parties at 1177 00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:48,000 Speaker 5: her house for the students. Yeah, so one of my 1178 00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:52,440 Speaker 5: classmates that one of my classmates ended up moving in 1179 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:56,840 Speaker 5: with her. She was because she was damn the orphaned, 1180 00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,479 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So she ended up living 1181 00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,759 Speaker 5: with her and then you know the years she started 1182 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:04,600 Speaker 5: throwing these functions and ship cooking all the food, liquor, drinks, weed. 1183 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,359 Speaker 5: It was like TV, to be honest with you, And 1184 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 5: it was then I was like, oh damn, what is this? 1185 00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,360 Speaker 5: How I was gonna go down? No, I'm talking about 1186 00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,680 Speaker 5: As I went to one of the functions, you realized 1187 00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:21,520 Speaker 5: is it a lotas everywhere I knew she was committed to, 1188 00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:23,719 Speaker 5: I saw it a lot of this ship, you know, 1189 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:27,200 Speaker 5: chips and sausa, It was liquor everywhere. She was rolling 1190 00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:31,279 Speaker 5: weed around? Like, what the fuck is going on? 1191 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:32,719 Speaker 3: How old did you say she was? 1192 00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:38,560 Speaker 5: She was twenty nine? Oh wow, married two kids? 1193 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,920 Speaker 3: Do you where was her husband and two kids? 1194 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:44,640 Speaker 5: I don't know where the hell? Do I look like? 1195 00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:51,319 Speaker 5: I was worried you were? Do you consider that statutory? Yes? 1196 00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,600 Speaker 5: I do? Do you think legally? 1197 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:54,480 Speaker 3: Well? 1198 00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:54,680 Speaker 2: Do you? 1199 00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,279 Speaker 3: What do you think about your mental state? 1200 00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:56,480 Speaker 8: Then? 1201 00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,000 Speaker 3: Like, do you think that you're old enough to make 1202 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,000 Speaker 3: that decision? Or you were manipulated and taking advance? 1203 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,200 Speaker 5: I was. I did not feel manipulator. I was a 1204 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,440 Speaker 5: willing participant, Like I did not feel like she took 1205 00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,000 Speaker 5: advantage of me. I was like more than happy too. 1206 00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,040 Speaker 3: But do you think thinking now that you're an adult. 1207 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,120 Speaker 5: Oh, it's statutory, right, yes, do you see? 1208 00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,319 Speaker 3: But I'm wondering what his mindset was because we didn't 1209 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:17,720 Speaker 3: think it was. You know what I'm saying. 1210 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:20,480 Speaker 5: This is a teacher for me. 1211 00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,200 Speaker 4: This is that for me when I was taking up 1212 00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:23,560 Speaker 4: with an older guy, I was like, thought I was 1213 00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,560 Speaker 4: cooler of cour I could do things that my friends 1214 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:27,160 Speaker 4: weren't doing. 1215 00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:28,279 Speaker 3: But but then when you. 1216 00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,120 Speaker 1: Look back at it, do you see how like like 1217 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,279 Speaker 1: with alcohol and a sixteen year old girl involved, Like 1218 00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:33,839 Speaker 1: it's like. 1219 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,160 Speaker 5: See, I wasn't drinking, so it wasn't like I was drunk, 1220 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:38,720 Speaker 5: you know what I mean? Like I was a drinking 1221 00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,879 Speaker 5: I was sober as the motherfucker. And this didn't even 1222 00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:42,399 Speaker 5: happen at. 1223 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:45,040 Speaker 3: The part she text me and you came to that. 1224 00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,320 Speaker 5: On a random school night and you went of course, 1225 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:53,239 Speaker 5: of course random school night. I had just got myself. 1226 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:54,200 Speaker 5: I just got it. 1227 00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:58,040 Speaker 4: How old we even watched Your Virginity fourteen by some 1228 00:56:58,160 --> 00:56:58,840 Speaker 4: of the same age. 1229 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:03,600 Speaker 5: Yes, I had just got my phone and my boy 1230 00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:07,160 Speaker 5: gave her my number because he was talking to the 1231 00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,840 Speaker 5: classmate that was living with it. And I got the 1232 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:11,320 Speaker 5: text from her and she told me a real. I 1233 00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,799 Speaker 5: didn't even know a real name until she texted me. Yeah. 1234 00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,960 Speaker 5: I used to just call her by her name. O 1235 00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,560 Speaker 5: my god, and she gave me your first name and 1236 00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,120 Speaker 5: I was like, I only know who the fuck is this? 1237 00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:25,080 Speaker 5: And then she's like missus. I was like, oh, oh, okay, 1238 00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:28,400 Speaker 5: Now what's up. She's like, I was eating. This was 1239 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,320 Speaker 5: the school night. I was eating with some friends eating. 1240 00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,000 Speaker 5: She's like, what you're doing. I was like, I'm eating 1241 00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,120 Speaker 5: right now, what's up? What you're doing? Afterwards? I'm going home. 1242 00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,160 Speaker 5: I got school in the morning. Like, I'm going home. 1243 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:43,240 Speaker 3: I'm going you know what. 1244 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:48,400 Speaker 5: She's like, man, my husband's gonna come over. 1245 00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:48,959 Speaker 1: Oh. 1246 00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:51,040 Speaker 3: And then she just came in and got right to it. 1247 00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:52,360 Speaker 3: There was not much conversation. 1248 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,840 Speaker 5: She's like, let me know when you're done eating. How 1249 00:57:55,880 --> 00:58:04,120 Speaker 5: buy shower? Gave me the address? Like okay, She's like yeah, 1250 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,760 Speaker 5: I stopped eating and left. This was late. Like I 1251 00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,880 Speaker 5: literally was like, listen, I got I'm not waiting on this. 1252 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:14,520 Speaker 5: I'm not waiting on this. I stopped the meal. I 1253 00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,080 Speaker 5: stopped my meal, paid my ship dipped, like I gotta go. 1254 00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:19,840 Speaker 3: English teacher is calling. 1255 00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,440 Speaker 5: I left. I left. I didn't even finish eating and 1256 00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:26,360 Speaker 5: he was like, where are you going? 1257 00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:28,840 Speaker 3: You didn't tell anybody that. 1258 00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,040 Speaker 5: I told my father that morning. 1259 00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:32,520 Speaker 3: About the teacher. 1260 00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,040 Speaker 5: He knew, he knew it was a teacher. I got 1261 00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:36,680 Speaker 5: home about five, but. 1262 00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:37,920 Speaker 3: He knew it was the teacher. 1263 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:47,120 Speaker 5: Can tell the stora give it to you. I got 1264 00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:48,960 Speaker 5: home and had to be like five. My dad wakes 1265 00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,800 Speaker 5: up about five. Ye that's about five something, you know, 1266 00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,120 Speaker 5: does his thing before he goes to work. And he 1267 00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:59,400 Speaker 5: was like, nigga, what the fun was you? I couldn't wait. 1268 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,400 Speaker 5: You're not gonna beleave this. I'm home at five because 1269 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,560 Speaker 5: I was at and I said the name and he 1270 00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:13,040 Speaker 5: was like, who the fuck is that? I was like, 1271 00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:17,479 Speaker 5: you know teacher at DP. You said, get the funk 1272 00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,760 Speaker 5: out of here. The smilest like. 1273 00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:26,560 Speaker 4: Dad's the difference between dad's and sons and will whoop 1274 00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:27,280 Speaker 4: my kids? 1275 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:31,520 Speaker 5: I said, pop? He said, bullsters, You're not even was like, 1276 00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,000 Speaker 5: that's my boy. Gave me some pound and he's like, 1277 00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:35,640 Speaker 5: just make sure you get your ass to school on time. 1278 00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:37,680 Speaker 5: I started school late. I had. I didn't have first 1279 00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:39,360 Speaker 5: or second hours talking about this. 1280 00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:43,920 Speaker 3: What would you tell your son? What would you what 1281 00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,400 Speaker 3: would you tell your son right now? 1282 00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:46,920 Speaker 5: Next year? 1283 00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,040 Speaker 1: What would you tell your son if you came home 1284 00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,640 Speaker 1: at five in the morning with this story the teacher 1285 00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:53,680 Speaker 1: to the club kid? 1286 00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,479 Speaker 5: Shut up, shut up. Welcome to the club kid. 1287 00:59:58,800 --> 00:59:59,720 Speaker 3: This needs to be talking about. 1288 00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:02,560 Speaker 5: I'm talk to her, though. We would have to have 1289 01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:04,360 Speaker 5: no not no, no, she like that. We would have 1290 01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:05,959 Speaker 5: to have a conversation like, Yo, you know my son's 1291 01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:10,600 Speaker 5: going to raise all that shit, but not double standard. 1292 01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,720 Speaker 5: Call it what you want, toxic masculinity, call it what 1293 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:18,080 Speaker 5: you want. I'm gonna have to admit this one. I'm 1294 01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,160 Speaker 5: gonna have to pound my son up, like, Yo, welcome 1295 01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:21,240 Speaker 5: to the club, k. It was good. 1296 01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:23,400 Speaker 7: What if your daughter came home and slipped through the 1297 01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,160 Speaker 7: same motherfucking story twelfth grade? 1298 01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:30,360 Speaker 5: This is the ship, right, I just said stuff double standard? Right. 1299 01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:34,800 Speaker 5: I am not going to be angry at her. I 1300 01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:37,600 Speaker 5: am going to do my best not to chastise her 1301 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:41,640 Speaker 5: or make her feel less than her belittler. No, I'm 1302 01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:43,360 Speaker 5: going to kill him though, That's what I thought I 1303 01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:45,600 Speaker 5: was waiting. No, No, he's going to he's going to 1304 01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:48,720 Speaker 5: see me a sap. I was waiting for that, but 1305 01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:49,600 Speaker 5: for my daughter. 1306 01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,320 Speaker 3: No, why is that different though? Like, why is it 1307 01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:52,840 Speaker 3: is it more? 1308 01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:52,960 Speaker 2: No? 1309 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,160 Speaker 5: I'm going to kill him, but I'm not going to 1310 01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:56,960 Speaker 5: tell her the teacher that did it. 1311 01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:58,760 Speaker 3: But that's something. But there's a little part of you 1312 01:00:58,840 --> 01:00:59,640 Speaker 3: that was going to kill him. 1313 01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:01,920 Speaker 4: But you're all still going to laugh because you're kind 1314 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:03,840 Speaker 4: of but where's with your daughter? 1315 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:05,000 Speaker 3: You wouldn't you haven't. 1316 01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:07,959 Speaker 5: I'm not going to kill the lady teacher, no, because 1317 01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:08,640 Speaker 5: I don't women. 1318 01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,320 Speaker 3: She's going to see if your daughter did it. 1319 01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,960 Speaker 5: My daughter didn't know, he's got to die or if 1320 01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:15,200 Speaker 5: she has to die. 1321 01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:17,520 Speaker 4: It's straight anger if your daughter did it, But if 1322 01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:19,800 Speaker 4: your son did it, it's anger, but also kind of 1323 01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,560 Speaker 4: like huh the block. 1324 01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:24,360 Speaker 3: But it's even more crazy, well. 1325 01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:25,720 Speaker 5: Again from my daughter once again. 1326 01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,280 Speaker 3: But I'm just that's so crazy to me, Like why 1327 01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:28,600 Speaker 3: is that? 1328 01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:31,200 Speaker 5: But I also know the patriarchy in this as well, 1329 01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:33,080 Speaker 5: like all that plays into it for. 1330 01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:36,240 Speaker 3: Me, I know, but it's so interesting. 1331 01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:37,520 Speaker 5: It's such a manipula thing. 1332 01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,480 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that women are dedicating time and 1333 01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:51,720 Speaker 1: work and dismantling. 1334 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,320 Speaker 3: And in this other way. It's such a devil. 1335 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,680 Speaker 5: Fucking it is it is. I didn't make that. 1336 01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,440 Speaker 3: Are you open to changing my perspective? 1337 01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:56,480 Speaker 5: I mean, do you. 1338 01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:00,000 Speaker 3: Do you see the problem definitely it's problem. 1339 01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,760 Speaker 5: Of course, I'm not senior saying like it's not. I 1340 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:04,760 Speaker 5: see all the I see it. I see the problem 1341 01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,160 Speaker 5: with me. I see the problems. I know it's double standard. 1342 01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:08,680 Speaker 5: I know it was talking of my sculinity. I know 1343 01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:10,400 Speaker 5: all of that. I get it. 1344 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:15,400 Speaker 3: I told you the words're human socialized. 1345 01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:19,120 Speaker 5: I'm socialized. I'm still unlearning a lot of things. That's 1346 01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:22,240 Speaker 5: still rape, that's still statutory rape. What happened to me. 1347 01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,160 Speaker 5: I was a willing participant. I was more than happy 1348 01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:26,680 Speaker 5: to I could not wait. 1349 01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:31,480 Speaker 4: To do it, like I do not feel like, no, yeah, 1350 01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:35,080 Speaker 4: I don't feel like a victim personally, I personally do not. 1351 01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,080 Speaker 4: You feel like it was her responsibility to do that 1352 01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:43,840 Speaker 4: in yours to not. 1353 01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:46,360 Speaker 5: Basically, you're not supposed to fuck your students period, right right? No, 1354 01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:50,640 Speaker 5: like at all? Let alone, you're a minimum a decade 1355 01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,920 Speaker 5: older than me, you know what I'm saying. But again, 1356 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:53,960 Speaker 5: well that's the. 1357 01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:55,200 Speaker 3: Fucking party, Okay, not that. 1358 01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:57,520 Speaker 1: But the truth is the crazy thing is it's like, 1359 01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,720 Speaker 1: at thirty eight, I could definitely date somebody forty, you know. 1360 01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,480 Speaker 5: Like, but thirty twenty is. 1361 01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:05,560 Speaker 3: The biggest different, huge I was thinking about. 1362 01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:07,120 Speaker 5: That they need somebody forty have thirty different. 1363 01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:09,920 Speaker 4: The tools that we made our age because they are rules. 1364 01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,000 Speaker 4: Someone made up these rules and we're like, okay, they 1365 01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,360 Speaker 4: did not and I'm not saying that they are They're 1366 01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,600 Speaker 4: not needed, but I'm just saying that at the end 1367 01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:18,320 Speaker 4: of the day, just like anything else. 1368 01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,360 Speaker 3: That's actually that's also social socialized. 1369 01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:22,760 Speaker 5: We don't need people having sex with babies. 1370 01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:26,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, like that's crazy because then someone would argue that 1371 01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:28,960 Speaker 4: we are all human and people were trying to argue that, 1372 01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:30,800 Speaker 4: which is even. 1373 01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,880 Speaker 5: We're trying to put pedophilia on the LBGT, which is 1374 01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,640 Speaker 5: so disrespectful to the LGBT. It's a small group, but 1375 01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:37,880 Speaker 5: it's a group. Nonetheless, what. 1376 01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:47,280 Speaker 1: They vacation made Okay, this is like their favorite play 1377 01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:48,560 Speaker 1: vacation because mind. 1378 01:03:48,360 --> 01:03:51,480 Speaker 5: You'll follow the page. Yes we took the y know, 1379 01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:55,760 Speaker 5: but you guys vacation we did without the dogs. 1380 01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,560 Speaker 7: We took them to Mexico twice, like once the Rosavita 1381 01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:00,440 Speaker 7: we drove and once to the cup I wait no, 1382 01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:02,960 Speaker 7: I mean Lahana Luda told me the other night, I 1383 01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:04,680 Speaker 7: want to go to I want to go to that 1384 01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:06,439 Speaker 7: that that Mexico mom. 1385 01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:08,200 Speaker 5: Yeah no, no. 1386 01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,480 Speaker 3: The second like like this one, I was a cop. 1387 01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,240 Speaker 3: She's like, yeah, this not the one drug I want 1388 01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:13,400 Speaker 3: to be. 1389 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:17,160 Speaker 5: You have to fly. Yeah, Like I said, if it 1390 01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:20,080 Speaker 5: was my daughter, I would kill him, And if it 1391 01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,280 Speaker 5: was my son, I wouldn't kill her because I don't 1392 01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:24,520 Speaker 5: hate women, but she definitely would have to see me 1393 01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:27,959 Speaker 5: because I know it's satutory right. So although I would 1394 01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,480 Speaker 5: give him the welcome to the club, I would not 1395 01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,760 Speaker 5: negatively respond to my daughter in that way, but I 1396 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,000 Speaker 5: would definitely let her know like this is statutory right. 1397 01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:40,760 Speaker 5: There's no reason why a grown ass man she'd be 1398 01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:43,120 Speaker 5: praying on you. But even before that, I'm already on 1399 01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:45,440 Speaker 5: it for my son too, Like I'm already on it. 1400 01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:47,320 Speaker 5: I'm already about to have a conversation. 1401 01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:51,000 Speaker 4: I think you know, I message you as as an 1402 01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,520 Speaker 4: under eighteen person, Like say your parents found out you 1403 01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:55,600 Speaker 4: were sleeping with a twenty nine year old man and 1404 01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:58,520 Speaker 4: they said, Jamila, that's statutory rape. 1405 01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:01,440 Speaker 3: Like effect, would it a chain? Is your mind? Or 1406 01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:03,400 Speaker 3: was you even like shut shut up? Yeah? 1407 01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:05,920 Speaker 10: First of all, I thought I was lying and I'm 1408 01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:08,680 Speaker 10: being and getting dropped off and doing all types of 1409 01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:12,520 Speaker 10: function to go be like Katana, I was like so 1410 01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:13,360 Speaker 10: dumb and young. 1411 01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:14,840 Speaker 3: So I doubt I. 1412 01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:15,800 Speaker 5: Was a club in too. 1413 01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:20,080 Speaker 1: I was like I was driving at fourteen, Like I 1414 01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:23,080 Speaker 1: wasn't like yeah did nanda car? Were like sixteen going 1415 01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:26,080 Speaker 1: at berries and like just being dumb and getting drunk 1416 01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:27,160 Speaker 1: and blacked out and shit. 1417 01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:31,840 Speaker 10: So I mean, I'm sure there were comments like that, But. 1418 01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:32,760 Speaker 3: At the same time, I don't know. 1419 01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:34,479 Speaker 1: Somehow I was still getting picked up by like thirty 1420 01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:37,000 Speaker 1: year old guys in front of my house like okay, bye, 1421 01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,320 Speaker 1: and like why is someone in the range over picking 1422 01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,320 Speaker 1: up your high school student and was noticing? 1423 01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:46,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, we I grew up in a very open household, 1424 01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:48,840 Speaker 5: so sex was never taboo in my house. Really, yeah, 1425 01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,760 Speaker 5: not at all. My parents were very, very old with sex. 1426 01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:54,280 Speaker 5: They wanted to know, they wanted to know what their 1427 01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:57,280 Speaker 5: kids were doing and not make it weird, and they didn't. 1428 01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,400 Speaker 5: They never made it weird. They never made a taboo. 1429 01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:01,520 Speaker 5: Do you have my sisters? 1430 01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:06,280 Speaker 3: So even with them. 1431 01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:07,240 Speaker 5: They were always very open, which for me was great. 1432 01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:10,000 Speaker 5: It was it was amazing to have that kind of 1433 01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:15,360 Speaker 5: open dialogue on my parents. With that being said, sometimes 1434 01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,840 Speaker 5: you can be too open and so even just me 1435 01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,160 Speaker 5: being like having going to have sex with a teacher 1436 01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,920 Speaker 5: or any older woman like my mom's friends, like my 1437 01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,520 Speaker 5: stepmam's friends used to be like, just tell you to 1438 01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:29,960 Speaker 5: come home please, and like, no, Now she would never 1439 01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:31,680 Speaker 5: tell me. She would tell me after the fact because 1440 01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:37,240 Speaker 5: my stepmam was like, leave my son alone, you know, 1441 01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:40,400 Speaker 5: and they would say it in jest. But my you know, 1442 01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:42,480 Speaker 5: step mom will still be like leave my son alone 1443 01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:45,400 Speaker 5: type of thing, you know what I mean, but still 1444 01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,680 Speaker 5: like she would let me know, like you know, I 1445 01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,720 Speaker 5: won't say the name, and. 1446 01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:53,800 Speaker 3: So said, can you imagine haven't because I. 1447 01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:56,800 Speaker 1: Can't imagine having a son getting older it was still 1448 01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:59,440 Speaker 1: gonna look good, you know, maybe it'll be fifty. And 1449 01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:01,440 Speaker 1: then they have like a twenty year old homie that 1450 01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:04,200 Speaker 1: like looks good, can you Because I have a homeboy 1451 01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:07,120 Speaker 1: who told me he's fucked two of his homeboys moms. 1452 01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:11,240 Speaker 3: And I'm like, you know, after eighteen shickens. So it 1453 01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,720 Speaker 3: gets the first slope. 1454 01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:20,080 Speaker 5: About that homegirls moms. 1455 01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:25,320 Speaker 3: Oh, so you talk about your homegirls moms. J you 1456 01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,480 Speaker 3: know you're quiet, but you got to. 1457 01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:31,640 Speaker 4: Know he's an a the story ship. He's really laid back. 1458 01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:41,600 Speaker 4: You want some more whiskey. 1459 01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:41,720 Speaker 5: From Las Vegas, from the City of Sin It's different. 1460 01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:44,000 Speaker 3: Did you tell your homegirl, you slept with her mom? 1461 01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:44,480 Speaker 8: Her? 1462 01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:51,480 Speaker 3: What? What did you just step talking to you? Guys? 1463 01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:53,400 Speaker 3: Have you seen her mom with her? 1464 01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:53,600 Speaker 8: Like? 1465 01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:54,640 Speaker 5: What does it even work? 1466 01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:55,960 Speaker 4: Fun? 1467 01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:56,200 Speaker 8: Up? 1468 01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:59,160 Speaker 5: All of you? Have you had sex with her too? 1469 01:07:59,200 --> 01:07:59,240 Speaker 2: No? 1470 01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:02,280 Speaker 5: No, oh my god, have you No? Not that one? 1471 01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:08,760 Speaker 3: Oh, not that beautiful, beautiful mermaid. 1472 01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,200 Speaker 5: You really don't want this. I'll take it. 1473 01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,320 Speaker 3: Well, this is a lot to taken. 1474 01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:21,760 Speaker 5: I've lived a very fun you know. 1475 01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:25,040 Speaker 3: I'm happy you're here. You you your brand aligns perfectly 1476 01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:25,599 Speaker 3: with ours. 1477 01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:30,720 Speaker 1: We believe in fun, and we believe in vulnerability and 1478 01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:33,080 Speaker 1: being transparent and putting it on the internet. 1479 01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:35,400 Speaker 3: It's also our therapy. 1480 01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:37,240 Speaker 5: That's why we're here a Twitter at the times. It's 1481 01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:39,320 Speaker 5: not like I've tweeted these things, you know, I don't 1482 01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:43,000 Speaker 5: know how to Twitter. Twitter is to me the best 1483 01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:43,719 Speaker 5: that on the planet. 1484 01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:46,960 Speaker 3: I really I don't like Twitter. 1485 01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:47,759 Speaker 5: I love Twitter. 1486 01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:49,400 Speaker 3: I've never I've never gotten on Twitter. 1487 01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:52,520 Speaker 5: I've got on Twitter for like a day, and. 1488 01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:53,759 Speaker 3: It does make me feel like I don't know who's 1489 01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:54,280 Speaker 3: can hear this? 1490 01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:58,000 Speaker 5: Because for me, like I said, i've tweeted these stories before. 1491 01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,479 Speaker 3: I need to see image. I know what you can, 1492 01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:02,519 Speaker 3: but it's not the same. 1493 01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:07,360 Speaker 5: I don't really care. But I'm also more into the conversation. 1494 01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:09,360 Speaker 5: I'm also more into how you think of what you're saying. 1495 01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:11,360 Speaker 5: The pictures are just pictures of ship to me, like 1496 01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:13,479 Speaker 5: all right, I'm a double tap and keep moving like that. 1497 01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:14,960 Speaker 5: She doesn't move me like that. 1498 01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:15,200 Speaker 3: I know. 1499 01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:16,960 Speaker 1: It's like almost like when you see a really beautiful 1500 01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:19,320 Speaker 1: Instagram person all the time, like fuck, that girl is 1501 01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:21,800 Speaker 1: so beautiful and then she does one video like oh no, 1502 01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:22,400 Speaker 1: don't talk. 1503 01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:28,840 Speaker 5: I know, I don't know. I don't go there. This 1504 01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:30,960 Speaker 5: is educated at me too, though, so I'm always like, 1505 01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:37,120 Speaker 5: you're so this is like you know, just don't get 1506 01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,040 Speaker 5: me wrong, I'd be like, yo, I will never would 1507 01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:43,479 Speaker 5: never talk to this one. Proud what I'm always thinking, like, man, 1508 01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:47,120 Speaker 5: who was your teachers growing up? Because that's just trash. True, 1509 01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:49,360 Speaker 5: That's that's just my thinking. 1510 01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:52,400 Speaker 3: Secrets to tell. 1511 01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:55,519 Speaker 5: These are just coming back. 1512 01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,000 Speaker 4: And yeah, we have the segment on our show called 1513 01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:00,000 Speaker 4: Horror Stories that we do and we didn't even tell you, 1514 01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,000 Speaker 4: but you basically already told us story. 1515 01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:02,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna have. 1516 01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:04,840 Speaker 4: To insert the sound clip, but like so it's to 1517 01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:06,800 Speaker 4: be like something like really terrifying or. 1518 01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:12,639 Speaker 5: Bad or like on horror stories at all horror horror 1519 01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:13,559 Speaker 5: emphasis on. 1520 01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:18,440 Speaker 4: Horror stories that are either like scary or crazy. 1521 01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:20,519 Speaker 3: High horsh levels. 1522 01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:23,679 Speaker 4: Give you yeah, yeah, you did, Yeah, because what I'm saying, 1523 01:10:23,680 --> 01:10:25,320 Speaker 4: you've already like given us our bory. 1524 01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:26,120 Speaker 3: We didn't even have to ask. 1525 01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:29,080 Speaker 5: These aren't the secrets. I've talked about it secrets, but 1526 01:10:29,200 --> 01:10:31,080 Speaker 5: you know things like you know, the's have been tweeted 1527 01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:33,519 Speaker 5: about that our ladies would like to hear about ladies. 1528 01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:38,960 Speaker 4: Now they have fantasies and classroom you know, panties on 1529 01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:39,479 Speaker 4: the desk. 1530 01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:44,040 Speaker 5: Man, I had a student leave panties on my door? 1531 01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:47,800 Speaker 3: Oh what did you have? Do you have to talk 1532 01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:49,920 Speaker 3: with every period? Like, listen, whoever did this, I'm gonna 1533 01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:50,479 Speaker 3: kill you. 1534 01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:52,920 Speaker 5: No. I took a pencil, picked it up, put it 1535 01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:55,040 Speaker 5: in the bag, took it to the principal's office. Yeah, 1536 01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:58,360 Speaker 5: I've had I've had numbers on my car. I've had 1537 01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:01,280 Speaker 5: a girl I coached as well, and so my athletes 1538 01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:03,599 Speaker 5: have my number. I've had girls get my number from 1539 01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:06,240 Speaker 5: my athletes and text me and ship. I've had I'm. 1540 01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:07,360 Speaker 3: Going to have to do. Do you deal with that? 1541 01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:08,800 Speaker 5: Do you have to report it or do you. 1542 01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:14,520 Speaker 3: Or do you ever address it? Like, listen up, class. 1543 01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:17,040 Speaker 5: Address it, number handies on the desk. 1544 01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:18,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, That's what I'm saying. And then how do we 1545 01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:20,520 Speaker 3: address it? Because the hormones. 1546 01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:23,480 Speaker 1: I think it's the hormone levels, you discovering your vagina. 1547 01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:26,800 Speaker 5: It's just so I address it, and it's for me. 1548 01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:31,080 Speaker 5: It's an awkward conversation because I don't want to to 1549 01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:33,800 Speaker 5: encourage it more not that is just I don't I 1550 01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:37,559 Speaker 5: don't feel like the hot teacher. Like I don't feel 1551 01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:39,560 Speaker 5: like the hot teacher. I'm dismissed, Webb, like come in, 1552 01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:41,600 Speaker 5: I do my thing and go to home. So I 1553 01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:46,080 Speaker 5: don't feel like the hot dude on whatever. Like so 1554 01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:49,400 Speaker 5: even me saying like, hey, do not leave your numbers 1555 01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:52,960 Speaker 5: on my desk. So it's like weird to even say that, 1556 01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:54,080 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. 1557 01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:55,880 Speaker 3: I don't want I don't want to to keep it. 1558 01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:57,160 Speaker 5: Moving, Yeah, like just keep it moving. 1559 01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:00,719 Speaker 1: Do you ever go into like the teacher's lunge and like, dude, 1560 01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:02,280 Speaker 1: are you getting numbers on the cartoon? 1561 01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:08,920 Speaker 5: And honestly got true. I a good buddy of mine. 1562 01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:11,240 Speaker 5: I call him jay Z's name is Joey Joey Zimmerman, 1563 01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:15,720 Speaker 5: handsome white man. Women loved him he got panties on 1564 01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:19,519 Speaker 5: his door. So we would sit at lunch and be like, dude, 1565 01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:22,519 Speaker 5: like I need to see jay. 1566 01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:25,000 Speaker 3: Z getting really pants. I don't remember panties on the door. 1567 01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:26,599 Speaker 3: Have teachers. 1568 01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:28,200 Speaker 5: It was like, I wouldn't do that. 1569 01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:30,600 Speaker 3: No, I feel like it's getting out of hand. This 1570 01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:34,280 Speaker 3: is like music videos Instagram, Instagram. 1571 01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:39,400 Speaker 1: That hor harshness is being more celebrated, and so the. 1572 01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:42,320 Speaker 3: Small teenage students are like, fuck it, shoot my shot. 1573 01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:44,439 Speaker 5: We used to sit at uh. We used to sit 1574 01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:46,519 Speaker 5: at lunch or sometimes. And jay Z is one of 1575 01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:49,080 Speaker 5: my really close friends to this day. He moved to Chicago. 1576 01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:52,960 Speaker 5: Now you know he's teaching and coaching out there as well, 1577 01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:54,640 Speaker 5: but you know we used to sit at lunch and 1578 01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:57,080 Speaker 5: and and all that. Then another friend of mine that 1579 01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,320 Speaker 5: I grew up with, Kenson, he's actually one of the alumni. 1580 01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:02,519 Speaker 5: He has a he did a video for Cannot Be Vulnerable. 1581 01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:05,280 Speaker 5: He was a sub. He was subbing at the high school. 1582 01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:07,800 Speaker 5: Were all that Haitian man. You know, I love him 1583 01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:11,439 Speaker 5: as well, and the vice principal was at him more 1584 01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:13,360 Speaker 5: than anything, but like he got. 1585 01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:15,120 Speaker 3: Vice principal was trying to get him. 1586 01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:16,920 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, she sent me news to my phone one 1587 01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:21,200 Speaker 5: time in the middle of class and then had and 1588 01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:22,560 Speaker 5: then in her office. 1589 01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:27,000 Speaker 3: Yeah I need to know where she was. And then 1590 01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:30,000 Speaker 3: you know, the school system made to say and. 1591 01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:32,160 Speaker 5: They had the hall monitor call me like on the 1592 01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:36,000 Speaker 5: class proem and say yo, B no no no, no, 1593 01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:38,080 Speaker 5: like B. Miss so and so said, did you get 1594 01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:38,559 Speaker 5: the pictures? 1595 01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:41,880 Speaker 3: Oh? My god? Oh he didn't even know what he 1596 01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:44,160 Speaker 3: was asking, not at all. What did you say? 1597 01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:50,200 Speaker 5: Yeah? I just said, yeah, I got him. You're being harassed, 1598 01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:50,760 Speaker 5: do you know that? 1599 01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:51,960 Speaker 3: Dude? 1600 01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:55,759 Speaker 5: Hr? Yeah, you're actually you're being sexually harried. 1601 01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:57,160 Speaker 3: This might be a case for you. 1602 01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:00,519 Speaker 5: This isn't mean to moment it was, but it wasn't. 1603 01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:03,800 Speaker 3: It didn't feel like and she also or do you 1604 01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:04,320 Speaker 3: enjoy it? 1605 01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:04,880 Speaker 5: Do you enjoy it? 1606 01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:05,080 Speaker 2: No? 1607 01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:06,920 Speaker 3: But she did enjoy the attention. 1608 01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:07,040 Speaker 1: A little bit. 1609 01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:07,760 Speaker 3: Does it feel good? 1610 01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:13,760 Speaker 5: I mean it's flattering, yeah, But to say like I 1611 01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:15,040 Speaker 5: feel like the man because of that. 1612 01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:15,640 Speaker 3: I don't. 1613 01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:19,320 Speaker 5: I don't feel like like the vice principal sent me 1614 01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:20,719 Speaker 5: some news. She wasn't even attractive. 1615 01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:22,800 Speaker 3: Are you are you currently in a relationship right now? 1616 01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:23,240 Speaker 5: I'm single? 1617 01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:23,719 Speaker 3: Okay? 1618 01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:24,759 Speaker 5: Are you on dating apps? 1619 01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:26,559 Speaker 3: Have you ever been? 1620 01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:30,200 Speaker 5: No? I don't even I really don't do. I don't 1621 01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:33,559 Speaker 5: do social media MAC and period. Really, it's very old 1622 01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:36,599 Speaker 5: fashioned way. I think, introduced by mutual friends or we're 1623 01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:39,519 Speaker 5: just I am out in public. I really do you. 1624 01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:41,040 Speaker 4: You don't strike me as the kind of guy to 1625 01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:43,280 Speaker 4: like go like, hey, can I get your number? 1626 01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:47,519 Speaker 5: It's mostly the girls come to you. Mmmm. It's mixture. Okay, 1627 01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:50,240 Speaker 5: it's a balance. I'll go introduce myself. Hi will dance 1628 01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:53,679 Speaker 5: whatever we're doing by your dreams very mysterious. But I don't. 1629 01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:58,920 Speaker 5: I don't. It's very rare that I that. I actually, 1630 01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:00,840 Speaker 5: I don't think I've ever just dove into a random 1631 01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:01,519 Speaker 5: women's DMS. 1632 01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:05,639 Speaker 4: And you never slid in any woman's didn't and slide 1633 01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:06,520 Speaker 4: into Michael. 1634 01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:10,719 Speaker 3: Jordan's and then I deleted. 1635 01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:14,400 Speaker 5: I was off the top of my head. I can 1636 01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:17,439 Speaker 5: honestly say I don't think I've ever just slid in 1637 01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:20,280 Speaker 5: a random woman's dam that I didn't know prior or 1638 01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:21,559 Speaker 5: I hadn't met before. 1639 01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,640 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I think that's pretty not Yeah, random slide. 1640 01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:30,799 Speaker 5: Is random, like oh maybe Black Planet Days. Okay, planning 1641 01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:33,760 Speaker 5: that's young. So yes, Black plan of Days I did, 1642 01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:40,320 Speaker 5: but that's what it was there for. My Space, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram. No, no, no, 1643 01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:42,760 Speaker 5: I've either had to met you at some point or 1644 01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:46,000 Speaker 5: we have mutual friends. But I don't dive into random 1645 01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:48,479 Speaker 5: women's dams. It's just not me. I just I don't 1646 01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:50,599 Speaker 5: like old fashion. 1647 01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:53,040 Speaker 3: Do you introduce what many day to your son? 1648 01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:54,040 Speaker 5: No? 1649 01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:56,439 Speaker 3: Have yout he's. 1650 01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:59,519 Speaker 5: Met women randomly, but like you have to just if 1651 01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:01,519 Speaker 5: we're just out public and you see us. Yeah, but 1652 01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:04,680 Speaker 5: I don't just you just don't meet my son. Give 1653 01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:05,840 Speaker 5: me and my parents all day. I don't give a 1654 01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:09,880 Speaker 5: funk about that's it. It's not special to me. Me, 1655 01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:14,559 Speaker 5: my mom, my dad all day. Like, give me my 1656 01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:18,919 Speaker 5: parents all day. That doesn't meant that if I formally 1657 01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:20,760 Speaker 5: make it a point to introduce you to my son, 1658 01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:22,680 Speaker 5: I think you're special and I feel like we're going 1659 01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:25,240 Speaker 5: to build something right, even that takes a long. 1660 01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:27,519 Speaker 4: Time because they ever developed an attachment to somewhere, I've 1661 01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:28,320 Speaker 4: been disappointed. 1662 01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:30,639 Speaker 3: Okay, so is that you're why that's your role now? 1663 01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:33,000 Speaker 5: Well that was always just been to me. I never 1664 01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:35,679 Speaker 5: wanted him to see dad with a bunch of women. 1665 01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:37,280 Speaker 5: I've never experienced that. 1666 01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:41,639 Speaker 4: I've experienced being a kid, I guess sort of, but yeah, 1667 01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:44,760 Speaker 4: to experience that as a parent must be I don't know, 1668 01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:48,519 Speaker 4: be awkward, difficult, like like if you were dating someone 1669 01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:50,000 Speaker 4: and your kid ended up loving. 1670 01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:52,960 Speaker 3: That, I know, loving that. 1671 01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:56,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, obligation almost like that's one of the main reasons. 1672 01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,320 Speaker 5: But I just, you know, never wanted him to see 1673 01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:01,800 Speaker 5: dad with like a multiple women. And then when I 1674 01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:06,040 Speaker 5: got into relationships and yeah, you're all good ladies. 1675 01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:13,519 Speaker 3: Bye later, dance mermaids. Okay, get the dancing. 1676 01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:14,639 Speaker 5: This is too cute. 1677 01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:17,240 Speaker 3: I love it. Go dance disco. 1678 01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:21,000 Speaker 5: Well we should wrap it up anyway. 1679 01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:27,040 Speaker 3: Thank you for coming. Yes, thanks for coming and driving 1680 01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:29,920 Speaker 3: out to the ballet. Conversation took the strange churn. 1681 01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:33,600 Speaker 5: I thought we would be more on the vulnerability. 1682 01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:35,760 Speaker 3: No, we should, definitely. I mean I think we did 1683 01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:37,080 Speaker 3: it really well, you know, like. 1684 01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:38,320 Speaker 5: I think, you know. 1685 01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:40,360 Speaker 4: Please let let our listeners know where they can find 1686 01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:41,840 Speaker 4: your Instagram, how they can find you. 1687 01:17:42,240 --> 01:17:47,040 Speaker 5: So me, my Instagram is DJ Underscore Underscore Williams. Twitter 1688 01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:48,000 Speaker 5: is the same thing, and. 1689 01:17:48,520 --> 01:17:50,160 Speaker 3: You love Twitter, guys much. 1690 01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:54,519 Speaker 5: Cannot be vulnerable. Instagram is just cannot be vulnerable, and 1691 01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:56,960 Speaker 5: the links to our YouTube pages is on there, so 1692 01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,560 Speaker 5: you can go right there. Same thing for Twitter. C 1693 01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:03,519 Speaker 5: I B vulnerable. Everything links to everything for that. Like 1694 01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:05,439 Speaker 5: I said, it's just a docuseries. We can watch a 1695 01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:08,240 Speaker 5: bunch of professional black men talk about their mental health 1696 01:18:08,360 --> 01:18:11,640 Speaker 5: and you know, coming of age. There's a bunch of 1697 01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:14,640 Speaker 5: stories that hopefully you can relate to. And now we 1698 01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:16,519 Speaker 5: got to ride range of shit. Now I think about it. 1699 01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:20,719 Speaker 5: We've got dea'd be dad stories. We've got suicide attempts, 1700 01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:24,960 Speaker 5: We've got coming out as gay, We've got suicide, I said, 1701 01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:30,840 Speaker 5: suicide temps, drug abuse, We've got damn sounds like life, fatherhood, 1702 01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:32,680 Speaker 5: like it's just the things that Yeah, I. 1703 01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:35,000 Speaker 3: Mean, it's so's there's so many stories. 1704 01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:38,160 Speaker 5: We've got some specifics. Like I said, we're on episode. 1705 01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:41,240 Speaker 4: Thirty makes it makes you remember, like you know, sometimes 1706 01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:42,599 Speaker 4: you can be and you're so wrapped up in your 1707 01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:45,080 Speaker 4: own world that it feels like that's the only thing 1708 01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:45,519 Speaker 4: that matters. 1709 01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:47,840 Speaker 3: Well, there's people out there going through so much. 1710 01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:50,080 Speaker 5: Check but yeah, check out the episodes. Man, there's gonna 1711 01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:51,000 Speaker 5: be something for everybody. 1712 01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:52,799 Speaker 3: Where do you check them out? It on YouTube? 1713 01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:55,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, you can go to my Instagram and cannot be vulnerable. 1714 01:18:55,320 --> 01:18:57,280 Speaker 5: You'll see like the clips and then there's it's on 1715 01:18:57,280 --> 01:19:00,200 Speaker 5: our ig TV. But also in the bio it's YouTube 1716 01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:05,439 Speaker 5: every Thursday, so it's hashtag therapy Thursdays, hashtag can and 1717 01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:09,280 Speaker 5: be vulnerable And therapy Thursdays came because I was just 1718 01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:12,280 Speaker 5: going to therapy on Thursdays. But I was also thinking, like, 1719 01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:15,240 Speaker 5: you know, you got tvt you know, to give your 1720 01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:18,320 Speaker 5: flashback photos for therapy Thursdays. I just want to, you know, 1721 01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:21,120 Speaker 5: an opportunity for people just checking on our mental So 1722 01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:23,160 Speaker 5: when you think of TBT, throw your nice little picture 1723 01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:24,360 Speaker 5: up and then therapy Thursdays. 1724 01:19:24,439 --> 01:19:25,880 Speaker 3: You just how I feeling. 1725 01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, just check in with your mental for therapy Thursday, 1726 01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:29,559 Speaker 5: if you don't do it any other day, doing on 1727 01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:30,680 Speaker 5: therapy Thursdays. 1728 01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:32,280 Speaker 3: Check on your. 1729 01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:34,200 Speaker 5: Friends, yeah, check on your friends. So, like I said, 1730 01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:37,080 Speaker 5: check out the episodes. There's gonna be something for everybody. Yes, 1731 01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:39,840 Speaker 5: it's only black men. We do nobody else, but that 1732 01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:44,000 Speaker 5: that's just my community. We don't again, we haven't been 1733 01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:47,080 Speaker 5: given permission, we haven't taken the initiative, and there's no 1734 01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:50,640 Speaker 5: safe space for us. So check it out. You'll love it. 1735 01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:51,120 Speaker 5: You'll cry. 1736 01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:54,680 Speaker 3: I don't think well, I love that. Well, thank you 1737 01:19:54,720 --> 01:19:55,639 Speaker 3: so much for coming. 1738 01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:59,559 Speaker 4: Back having me, and we'll see you guys next week. 1739 01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:02,160 Speaker 4: Make sure or to follow us at Good Moms Underscore 1740 01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:05,519 Speaker 4: Bad Choices. We have some cool merch on the site, 1741 01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:07,519 Speaker 4: so make sure you can check out our new merch 1742 01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:11,000 Speaker 4: at our web on our website www dot Goodmom's Bad 1743 01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:12,439 Speaker 4: Choices dot com. 1744 01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:14,240 Speaker 3: And we'll be in New York and we'll be in 1745 01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:16,320 Speaker 3: New York and then at the first week. 1746 01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:19,840 Speaker 4: Yes, so hit us up because we're trying to go 1747 01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:21,320 Speaker 4: to like hang out with you guys. 1748 01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:25,559 Speaker 3: You know, yes, yes, I used to live there, but 1749 01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:27,599 Speaker 3: it's been so long, like I don't know what's cool anymore. 1750 01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:30,680 Speaker 5: You know, it's always changing to hang out. Years I 1751 01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:31,840 Speaker 5: used to stay from. 1752 01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:33,840 Speaker 3: This is my first time going to hang out, but 1753 01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:38,160 Speaker 3: that's changing for the best, for the better, for the 1754 01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:41,000 Speaker 3: better anyway. 1755 01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:48,120 Speaker 5: Oh, yes, we will be doing events for everybody, men, women, kids, 1756 01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:49,760 Speaker 5: so be on the lookout for that. I got a 1757 01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:52,240 Speaker 5: few things in store, event planning and all that stuff. 1758 01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:56,360 Speaker 5: So now to get the community involved, the mom's involved, 1759 01:20:57,240 --> 01:20:59,519 Speaker 5: we'll be there. Please please be on the lookout. We 1760 01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:00,679 Speaker 5: will definitely be doing events. 1761 01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:03,719 Speaker 4: Are there with our stage, I come through encouraging people 1762 01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:04,840 Speaker 4: to be vulnerable, to have. 1763 01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:10,000 Speaker 5: The ladies like I did another podcast and with my 1764 01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:14,880 Speaker 5: platform and they talked about one of the hosts his mom. 1765 01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:17,559 Speaker 5: Him and his mom were estranged, right, they don't speak much, 1766 01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:23,719 Speaker 5: And we were talking about the effects of yah, baby, 1767 01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:27,519 Speaker 5: You're talking about the effects of motherhood, the effects of 1768 01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:29,360 Speaker 5: growing up with the mons that they had on them. 1769 01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:33,080 Speaker 5: And you know, his mom heard it and called him 1770 01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:34,000 Speaker 5: for the first time in the year. 1771 01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:34,760 Speaker 3: Wow. 1772 01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:37,679 Speaker 5: And so they are now going to start meeting because 1773 01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:39,680 Speaker 5: now he's in a different space now. But he had 1774 01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:41,880 Speaker 5: a tragic gest story. Damn that shit had me crying 1775 01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:46,800 Speaker 5: on air. But we need the ladies around because you 1776 01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,479 Speaker 5: guys just have to see men just be open. 1777 01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:50,880 Speaker 1: And vulnerable and you don't know what that where that 1778 01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:53,919 Speaker 1: leads when you're vulnerable, Wally, you're helping just by being vulnerable, 1779 01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:54,679 Speaker 1: by being honest. 1780 01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:56,920 Speaker 3: And I think also men need to be able to 1781 01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:58,360 Speaker 3: be vulnerable around women too. 1782 01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:01,000 Speaker 5: It's good practice for men. But I'm gonna tell you 1783 01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:03,280 Speaker 5: this because you need incentive, because I know how we are. 1784 01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:06,960 Speaker 5: We need incentives. Listen, fellas opening up and being vulnerable, 1785 01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:10,160 Speaker 5: you do not understand how the women respond to it. 1786 01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:13,120 Speaker 5: I get d ms all the time about the alumni. 1787 01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:16,120 Speaker 5: Is he single? Can I get his number? Listen, you 1788 01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:19,720 Speaker 5: open up, you get your little get your issues out, 1789 01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:25,040 Speaker 5: be honest with yourself. Love it you love it. It's 1790 01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:29,719 Speaker 5: a commercial sensible this is a byproduct. I didn't even 1791 01:22:29,760 --> 01:22:35,040 Speaker 5: like when I did. I didn't. I wasn't doing it like, ohhen. 1792 01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:34,479 Speaker 3: For the place. 1793 01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:38,960 Speaker 1: But what I can say is woman loves a man 1794 01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:40,360 Speaker 1: digging through his ship. 1795 01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:42,000 Speaker 3: I love. I love a man who said he went 1796 01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:42,479 Speaker 3: to therapy. 1797 01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:42,720 Speaker 1: Are you. 1798 01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:45,040 Speaker 3: We met one of Erica's friends at the sower House. 1799 01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:47,360 Speaker 3: You're talking abot high school therapy. I was like, oh 1800 01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:50,080 Speaker 3: my god, mental health is so man, so sexy. 1801 01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:52,840 Speaker 5: I'm not saying it doing it for the women. I'm 1802 01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:57,120 Speaker 5: just saying it's a byproduct of it. You're doing it 1803 01:22:57,120 --> 01:22:58,800 Speaker 5: for yourself because you want to be healed, because you 1804 01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:01,719 Speaker 5: harboring a whole lot of hurt for no reason. 1805 01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:04,040 Speaker 8: But a by product is you know that might be 1806 01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:08,759 Speaker 8: a woman or two can relate it or will stamp 1807 01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:14,920 Speaker 8: all over your heart, awful heart. 1808 01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:18,880 Speaker 5: Alright you guys, Well we'll catch you guys next week. 1809 01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:23,639 Speaker 4: Bye, consleutely lit fad away. 1810 01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:30,719 Speaker 5: We still fly. 1811 01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:35,839 Speaker 2: High crash, So that's why I show you passy. 1812 01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:41,519 Speaker 5: No, you can't imagine me something mat. 1813 01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:44,160 Speaker 2: Your name is mad. 1814 01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:48,640 Speaker 5: We don't have to make