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Speaker 1: Zone Pouches. We just witnessed one of the craziest Thursday

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Speaker 1: getting blown out, and then they weren't. Sam Donald the

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Speaker 1: leads Seattle on a game winning drive. So what a

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Speaker 1: crazy game. We'll discuss Sam Donald, Matt Stafford, Sean McVay,

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Speaker 1: two day. What a game? I mean, sometimes you're just speechless.

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Speaker 1: I'd be lying if I said I didn't tweet ballgame.

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Speaker 1: When the Rams went up thirty to fourteen, you know,

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Speaker 1: it looked like Sam Darnold was in full meltdown mode.

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Speaker 1: The Cooper Cup fumble at the end of the first half.

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Speaker 1: You're just thinking they're down multiple scores, multiple two point conversions.

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Speaker 1: In what world could you overcome three turnovers against Matt Stafford,

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Speaker 1: who will get into in a minute as really morphed

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Speaker 1: into his version of you know, at this point in

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Speaker 1: you know, Brady Manning Rogers like he's just in complete

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Speaker 1: control of the game, kind of mastered the position relative

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Speaker 1: I mean, that is insane. And let's face it, the

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald won the LA Rams had complete owner ownership

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Speaker 1: of them. He had thrown what he throwed four interceptions

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Speaker 1: the last game. He had two to Night. Both interceptions

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Speaker 1: the interceptions was carbon copy to what happened to Baker

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Speaker 1: This guy's full meltdown mode. And obviously the punt return

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Speaker 1: of John Schneider, who I really appreciate. Both GM's night,

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Speaker 1: Sam Donold did not play well I thought for most

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Speaker 1: last week where they kicked what six field goals. I mean,

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Speaker 1: But I do think that was a pretty big moment

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Speaker 1: But like these big games now, multiple Rams game, the

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Speaker 1: Because when you're down multiple scores, he had just thrown

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Speaker 1: Mike McDonald and Seattle Seahawks. That feels like one of

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Speaker 1: Now you're not gonna score or anything, but your team's

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Speaker 1: at minimum is gonna score a field goal because your

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Speaker 1: field goal kicker never misses. So it's gonna be thirteen

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Speaker 1: ten at halftime, you kind of would have some momentum,

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Speaker 1: who knows, maybe score a touchdown, take the halftime lead,

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Speaker 1: but you fumble. My heart sank for the guy because

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Speaker 1: I started thinking if Seattle losed this game. This is

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Speaker 1: a tight press conference at the end of the game

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Speaker 1: where you cry because you're so devastated. You feel like

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Speaker 1: you played a huge role in the loss. And he

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Speaker 1: obviously came through with you know, one of the biggest

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Speaker 1: catches definitely of a Seattle career in that overtime drive

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Speaker 1: and he kind of can smile and like I made

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Speaker 1: a big play where listen, DeVante Adams a better player

441
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Speaker 1: than Cooper Cup and I would have that same move.

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Speaker 1: And there's no way to cut a guy who's done

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Speaker 1: a lot for you. That's a big part of your team,

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Speaker 1: your culture, guy that you know, the front office and

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Speaker 1: the coach drafted and loved for it to be good.

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Speaker 1: Right unless you just retire like Kelsey and love everybody,

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Speaker 1: or you know the coach in the GM leave, usually

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get cut or traded. Kind of happens to everybody,

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Speaker 1: and it clearly got a little ugly with Cooper cup,

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Speaker 1: and I thought, man, that sucks. I can't put yourself

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Speaker 1: in his situation. Remove football, someone fires you, someone dumps you,

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Speaker 1: whatever happens because they don't believe in you. And then

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Speaker 1: they replace you with someone everyone in your life would agree.

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Speaker 1: They might not say it to your face. He's better

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Speaker 1: than you. They made the right move. And then you

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Speaker 1: get the opportunity to play that guy for everything on

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Speaker 1: the line. And the guy that he replaced you with

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Speaker 1: is kind of mia because in football he's injured, but

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Speaker 1: you get a chance to like, well, he can't even

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Speaker 1: do anything. I'm gonna show his ass up tonight. And

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Speaker 1: that fumble, but he he as Jim Carrey or I

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Speaker 1: guess Jeff Daniels once said, and he totally redeem yourself

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Speaker 1: and he definitely did. Now no one will even talk

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Speaker 1: about that fumble. No one will even talk about that.

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Speaker 1: What a what a bananas game? I mean, that was

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Speaker 1: that was extremely entertaining. It really was. And this is

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Speaker 1: the thing about football in the NFL. We just when

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Speaker 1: you got two good teams. This is not college. It's

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Speaker 1: pretty rare to see like forty to sevens. You don't

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Speaker 1: get blood, you're never out of the game, and It

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Speaker 1: just takes one play. It just takes one interception, just

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Speaker 1: takes one punt return. And let's face it, that punp

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Speaker 1: return flip the game, that punp return that they were

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Speaker 1: dead in the water. If he just has like catches

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Speaker 1: the ball and gets tackled for five yards, I think

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Speaker 1: we would all agree there is a one chance they

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Speaker 1: lose because in the fourth quarter he throws the pick.

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Speaker 1: This is the end of the third. They score a touchdown,

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Speaker 1: then they punt, then the Rams score a touchdown. It's

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Speaker 1: now thirty to fourteen, and then Donold's driving him throws

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Speaker 1: a pick, so now they're down sixteen points. They just

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Speaker 1: intercepted it and then they forced a punt and then

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Speaker 1: it all changed right there with him returning it. That

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Speaker 1: was That was truly wild man. That was I'm still

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Speaker 1: kind of at a loss. I can't believe what I

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Speaker 1: just witnessed. But that was fun. And what a win

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Speaker 1: by Mike McDonald. I mean, that's a pretty big win

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Speaker 1: on his resume. And his defense with his quarterback was

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Speaker 1: melting like an icicle, you know, in an Arizona summer day.

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Speaker 1: They fucking came through. They were big hits. Stuff in

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Speaker 1: the run Leonard Williams was a beast. His blitz calls

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Speaker 1: were Pepper and Stafford. I can't even imagine what Matt

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Speaker 1: is gonna feel like tomorrow. I can't. I mean, they

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Speaker 1: hit him over and over. He wasn't sacked, but he

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Speaker 1: was hit as just as many times as Donald, if

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Speaker 1: not more. And maybe, you know, the stats might be

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Speaker 1: a little off. I don't have him right in front

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Speaker 1: of me in terms of the pressures, but Stafford was

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Speaker 1: hit a lot, especially in the second half. Dialing up

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Speaker 1: the pressures. There was one play where Stafford threw an incompletion.

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Speaker 1: They ran like a delayed blitz. It looked like maybe

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Speaker 1: a safety up near the box kind of came through,

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Speaker 1: so he had to come a long way. But they

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Speaker 1: have so much team speed on defense that they get

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Speaker 1: close to Matt and he knew it. He's like, I'm

506
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Speaker 1: not getting hit. He got rid of the ball fast

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Speaker 1: It wasn't even close to being a completion and even

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Speaker 1: out you know, listen, love out, nothing but respect for him,

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Speaker 1: reverence as an all time goat, kind of losing his fastball.

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Speaker 1: Even he could see like I had to get rid

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Speaker 1: of that. He did not want to get hit. Don't

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Speaker 1: blame him. He could see him coming out of the

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Speaker 1: corner of his eye. So Mike's a stud man in

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Speaker 1: this division. These three coaches, Mike, Kyle, and Sean and

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Speaker 1: this is big time and these guys go back and forth,

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Speaker 1: and they got a guy. You know, Shawn's very His

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Speaker 1: personality is just it's massive, right. You feel it when

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Speaker 1: you watch him do press conferences or do interviews, like

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Speaker 1: he's a pretty unique cat, right, And I would say,

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Speaker 1: you know, Kyle's definitely pretty Uh. He's kind of nry

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Speaker 1: during the week, He's kind of like Pops, but he

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Speaker 1: gets into these games, like you could see his emotion

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Speaker 1: during the games. I feel like Mike McDonald, for being

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Speaker 1: a younger guy, is like zero emotion. He feels like

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Speaker 1: a friendlier version, a little more in shape, a little taller,

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Speaker 1: better looking than like Belichick. You know, Bill just never

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Speaker 1: really showed anything that's kind of Mike. I'm waiting to

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Speaker 1: see him get pissed off or do something. He is

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Speaker 1: pretty steady, Eddie, I mean he really is. And whatever

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Speaker 1: he did take away from Jim and John Harbaugh, like

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Speaker 1: their toughness, their physicality, the mental toughness He's I've been

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Speaker 1: saying it for a long time. Man, if he coached

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Speaker 1: offense instead of defense, we would talk about him the

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Speaker 1: way we do all these offensive young guys. But he

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Speaker 1: coaches defense. It's not a sexy but I'm a huge fan.

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Speaker 1: I really am props to a friend of the show,

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Speaker 1: John Schneider. Just just a massive, massive win. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't even I don't even know what else to say.

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Speaker 1: What a night, What a night there were combined record

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Speaker 1: was twenty two to six coming into this game. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think one thing that you got to give Amazon

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Speaker 1: credit and the League credit for working together is early

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Speaker 1: on in this Thursday night kind of run, it felt

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545
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Speaker 1: would just get such Now it feels like, God, the

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Speaker 1: games are so much better from Thursday Night games. I

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Speaker 1: know the Thanksgiving games were not necessarily Amazon, but you know,

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Lions game was a fantastic matchup on paper.

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Speaker 1: And in this game, two teams I mean playing potentially

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551
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Speaker 1: enjoyable as just a fan. I mean, obviously I watched

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Speaker 1: complaining because in twenty twenty six, we will officially be

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Speaker 1: moving our video to Netflix. So I'm sure you've seen

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Speaker 1: barstool guys going, we will be going as well. So

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Speaker 1: would ask me two years ago, do you think your

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Speaker 1: videos will be on Netflix? Like? We just started a

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Speaker 1: YouTube channel, And this is why I always say and

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Speaker 1: what we do, you can never like it's impossible to

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Speaker 1: like map out your five to ten year plan, like

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Speaker 1: I kind of live month a month. We spend a

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Speaker 1: these videos, which are also an audio podcast, which we'll

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Speaker 1: get into it in a second. Nothing is going to

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Speaker 1: change there, which is a big reason that we are

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Speaker 1: going into this venture. I mean, I started as a

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Speaker 1: channel has done really well, especially this season, and that

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Speaker 1: will no longer exist in the sense that our videos

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Speaker 1: We're still working through. I saw a big cat ass

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Speaker 1: said the same thing. But before we dive into nitty gritty,

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Speaker 1: like one theme we've had on this show since I've

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Speaker 1: been doing it is any advice I try to give

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Speaker 1: to somebody. It's the way I live my life, and

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Speaker 1: would say project like a life philosophy kind of the

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Speaker 1: be afraid to take chances. And sometimes when you swing,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna miss. It's like a draft pick. It's like dating.

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Speaker 1: But I've lived my life going back since I've left college,

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Speaker 1: being really aggressive, and I've been very very lucky. I've said,

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Speaker 1: Forever Coward changed my life and being associated with them,

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Speaker 1: even I had this podcast before the volume ever existed,

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Speaker 1: very very fortunate to be around really really impressive, high

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Speaker 1: level people who you know, I mean I'm not tooting

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Speaker 1: my own horn. I do like this business. If I

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Speaker 1: and they've double supported, and they've had my back. They've

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00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: promoted me in the sense of like pushing the podcast,

641
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: the sales team. I couldn't have asked for better people,

642
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: more aspirational people, bigger grinders. I mean, going back to Calward,

643
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: I've said this forever. Do you know the percentage of

644
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: people that would have been in his spot five six

645
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: years ago before we ever started the volume financially crushing?

646
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: It could have been life on Easy Street. Did not

647
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: need to start this company, did not need the headache.

648
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: I mean I spent the three nights with him in

649
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: Chicago when we did the live thing, Like, doing these

650
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: things causes more headaches than it is, like, oh fun,

651
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 1: all rainbows, a bunch of money. Like, No, it's a

652
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: pain in the ass running a business. Anyone listening to this,

653
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: I don't care if you run a business with two

654
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: people or one hundred and fifty people. No, it's hard.

655
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: You get a lot of people hitting you up, you

656
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: get a lot of different stuff. You always got to

657
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: put out fires. Got a lot going on, especially in

658
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: a business like this, it's very public, and no one

659
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: has supported me more than him. So for me, like,

660
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 1: it wasn't my idea to be like, hey can I

661
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: throw my name in the Netflix ring. It just came

662
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: to me, Hey, would you be interested? And like I said,

663
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: my first reaction is yeah, I'm open and talking. Now,

664
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 1: I'm not an idiot. Like at the end of the day,

665
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: I'm a consumer and the way I consume I watch

666
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: countless podcasts on YouTube, Like I am a huge consumer

667
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: of YouTube. Even if I didn't do this, if I

668
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: just was John Middlecoff medical sales rep here in Scottsdale,

669
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: the amount of content I would watch off YouTube would

670
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: probably be the same potentially more depending on it. Just

671
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: be instead of at my desk, might be in my

672
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: car driving around. Right, So I understand how hard it

673
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: is being a consumer just to change your habits, because

674
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: my habit is just watch video podcasts as I'm working

675
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: or even if I'm going on a walk, like I

676
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: pay for YouTube Premium, I can just listen to it.

677
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: So it's like I was open to the conversation, but

678
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: we also had to talk through like this is pretty

679
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: risky right now. I think a huge selling point for

680
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: me is the audio never doesn't change, and the audio

681
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: if only audio existed in video never did, we would

682
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: be running a sustainable business here on three and out.

683
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: Obviously the video through YouTube has taken it to the

684
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: next level and now going to Netflix, which again I'm

685
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: not doing it for free. Obviously you know this is

686
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: a a lucrative venture, but it's also a venture that,

687
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: like you kind of keep your fingers crossed, hope it's

688
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: gonna work.

689
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 2: Now.

690
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 1: I'm not getting into business with some random company like

691
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: this is. They know what they're doing and they're not

692
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: just going all in. I'll tell you this. When you

693
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 1: know the initial names came out, I was like, there

694
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: aren't that many sports people. I feel pretty confident of

695
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: my crew supporting and the following day when pardon my take,

696
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 1: which is by far the biggest sports podcast that's ever existed.

697
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: I'm not counting like TV show, radio show, like someone

698
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: like Colin the Doubles at it all. I'm talking a

699
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: internet podcast. They are by far the highest listen to

700
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: and definitely in terms of revenue, no one's even close.

701
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: And this probably puts them into high eight figures of revenue,

702
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: and now they're closer to nine than they are seven.

703
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: I mean, they are an absolute cash cow. Rossillo has

704
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: had one of the biggest podcast asked for a long time.

705
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: So when that got announced, I went, I'm with the

706
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: right crew, the crew that had this idea to get

707
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: involved that got me involved. And I was like I

708
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: and I also I made the right decision of like

709
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: giving me the thumbs up, like I want in. This

710
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: is a no brainer. And obviously we're gonna need people

711
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,439
Speaker 1: to change their consumer habits because I'm not exactly sure,

712
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: like I still plan on. The other thing is they're

713
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: not like if you would have told me a couple

714
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: of years ago, you're gonna go, You're gonna be on Netflix,

715
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: Like shit, I'm in like a crime drama. Did they

716
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: cast me for like one of McConaughey or Adam Sandler's movies,

717
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: Like God, my career took a turn. I mean, honestly,

718
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 1: that would have been That would have been what I

719
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: would have said, Like, you know, I was in the

720
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 1: sheriff of Critter Creek back in third grade. I was

721
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: actually the sheriff of the lead and you know, my dad,

722
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 1: pretty old school conservative guy, was like, you're not going

723
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 1: into acting. I probably would have had a pretty good career,

724
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 1: but that I got shot down pretty again the lead

725
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: I might have had a future. Not good looking enough

726
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: and no hair would have been a problem. Actually, the

727
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: ball community is going pretty strong in Hollywood now, but

728
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: the podcast thing clearly they want all in on, and

729
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: they're not counting myself at all on this one. They're

730
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: clearly on the right people. So you just believe in

731
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: a company that gets it right a lot more than

732
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: they get it wrong. And if someone over the years,

733
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: like I've invested in Netflix made me a lot of

734
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: money for a reason. It's popular, it works, and they're

735
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: going after YouTube now, which again, this channel's not going away,

736
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: so like we will not host the shows or the reactions,

737
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: but we still plan on having content. Not exactly sure

738
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 1: what that will look like. We obviously have another channel

739
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: that is go Low Golf that is not going to

740
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: be associated with Netflix, So I guess they didn't want

741
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: to see any play golf on Netflix. I mean, that's

742
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: their loss, but that will be My plan is to

743
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: make that thing way more active than it's been. I mean,

744
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: we just started the the YouTube feed on that one,

745
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: I think toward the end of the year. But it's

746
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: it's a massive, massive change and a massive move obviously

747
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: a lot of positives. Good for everyone that works on

748
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 1: my show that I mean, you see, there are a

749
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: lot of guys. I mean, you've seen Jackson, but but

750
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: Shane and Adam and James who's now moved on from

751
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: us with Joe and Jada who's also going to Netflix. Noah,

752
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: we have a lot of people. There's a big operation.

753
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: So making moves like this are just like you can't

754
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: be afraid to do them. And I know there's gonna

755
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: be some reaction, just like like I'm not doing that,

756
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,280
Speaker 1: and let's totally understand if I was in the shoes,

757
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: like you'd have to get used to it. And hopefully

758
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: we've done a good enough job going and doing this

759
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 1: podcast and clearly we have a pretty strong following that

760
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: hopefully it works. And I'm fired up. I'm confident, like

761
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: nothing's going to change. So if you want to get

762
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: what we're doing, that's where you got to go, you know,

763
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: And I'll be there every day, like I am now

764
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: doing these podcasts and really really exciting and you know,

765
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 1: sometimes as you get older. I'm not a big celebrate guy,

766
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: hate birthdays as I've gotten older. Like I told Maria,

767
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, don't get me anything for Christmas. I do

768
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: not want anything for Christmas. I just I'm just not.

769
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe it's some like emotional trauma from

770
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: my youth, but this is one of those things that like,

771
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: you know, my dad who passed away years ago. Again,

772
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: I don't even know if he knew what Netflix was

773
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: when he died in two thousand and eighteen. He probably wouldn't.

774
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: Maybe he did because this financial guy might have had

775
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,400
Speaker 1: him in the stock. But these are type moments that

776
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: you know, pretty big that your family and people around

777
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: you can, you know, kind of celebrate like it's a

778
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: big deal. I mean, there's just no way around it.

779
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: It's one of those things like it hasn't really like

780
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: it doesn't really phase me in the sense of what

781
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: am I to throw a party. We just gotta get

782
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 1: to work. We've got to do a good job. We're

783
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: gonna get probably more new people. See I thought the

784
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: way I attack this in the power of the video. Again,

785
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: for those of you listening on audio, nothing changes, literally

786
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: nothing changes. Uh, they're just think about it, like Pat

787
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: McAfee the way he does the show on ESPN. They're

788
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: just licensing is the show that I already do. So

789
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: you plan on just being my same self, talking football,

790
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: talking whatever's going on, mail bags, life questions, Fugazi Fridays,

791
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: and the videos will just be on Netflix where the

792
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: audio will be on a place they are now, Apple, Spotify.

793
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: Are there other places you listen to podcasts as YouTube

794
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: have a podcast, all the same places that have podcasts

795
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: right now. It'll stay. So yeah, that's a little life update.

796
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: Other than that that I did I miss anything. I

797
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,320
Speaker 1: did feel I mean a little insight into me, not

798
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: that I was nervous, like I was ready to go

799
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 1: like he make full speed decisions. You go the day

800
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: after we basically it was iHeart puts out the uh

801
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: the release and iHeart is it's kind of complicated. We're

802
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: in business like the volume is in business. Also where

803
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 1: partners with iHeart who have been incredible partners for me

804
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: personally and the sale of the show and done work

805
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,359
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. Bob Millheiser, who's one of their head

806
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: sales gut might be the main sales guy's he's a

807
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: stud known him forever. The Iheart's been fucking incredible to me.

808
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: So it was when they put out the press release,

809
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: You're like, Okay, it's just I gotta everyone's gonna be

810
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: coming to me for football, like I would drive some

811
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: people there, And when it came out to Big Kat

812
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: and Roscillo and PFT made me feel like, Okay, we

813
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 1: got sports. People are gonna come and it's on me

814
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: to keep doing a good job and entertain, uh you

815
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: guys and talk football, which I obviously enjoy doing and

816
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: reacting to these games. The plan will be, I guess,

817
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: the exact same, unless I have a baby on one

818
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: of the game nights, which I hope. I'm like Stucky,

819
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 1: who you'll hear from on the audio here in a

820
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: minute on the video video be out tomorrow. You know

821
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 1: he had the baby on NFL Sunday and still was

822
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: able to watch games. So you know, I think I

823
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: could see her killing me if I attempted that, But

824
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: we'll try. You know, the phone iPad, I'll come, Aquiff.

825
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: But other than that, just wanted to update everyone for

826
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: life what's going on and this is not a fugazi,

827
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: this is real. Three and out. John Middlecoff to Netflix

828
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: it's happening not to be in a crime drama. I'm

829
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: not a serial killer, so there's not a documentary on

830
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: That would have been another thing like did I get

831
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: in trouble and they did some documentary on me? So

832
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,320
Speaker 1: I'm like a podcaster, you know, kill seven. It's like

833
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: what or did you know fifty cent didn't do a

834
00:44:51,239 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: documentary on me? We're just going to do a football show. Okay,

835
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: back at it again with my main man and a

836
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: new father. You can catch him on the Action Network.

837
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: You can catch them changing diapers, you can catch them

838
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 1: just probably not sleeping much. Him and Sean McVeigh football kids.

839
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: You just keep the pedal of the metal stuck. He congratulations.

840
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 2: Thanks. Yeah, I don't really sleep much turned football season anyway,

841
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 2: so it's not much of a change. It's more for

842
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 2: my wife. She does all the work. But it was funny,

843
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 2: he was. He came at one o'clock on the Dot

844
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 2: Eastern on the NFL Sunday, and I got my wife

845
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 2: at a C section, got cut out one o'clock. They

846
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 2: had to keep operating on her. Obviously, they brought me

847
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 2: and the baby up to the nursery and then they

848
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 2: had to like work on him for a while. They

849
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 2: clean him up, and then because it was a C section,

850
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 2: he asked to like get as lungs going. So they

851
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,720
Speaker 2: were working on for a while. I had like at

852
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 2: a winter hat on and my scrubs, but and then

853
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 2: I had headphones underneath. And then I was sitting in

854
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 2: this sitting in the nursery for an hour. Well, they

855
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 2: worked on him. There's nothing I can do, and I

856
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 2: just I had my phone propped up on a desk,

857
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 2: was just watching and listening to Red Zone. So this

858
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 2: was still sweating NFL. But it was amazing moment. And yeah,

859
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 2: he's home now, Mom and kid are doing well, but

860
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 2: the grind must go on. It was funny.

861
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: I feel like that's like the Alfared Batman meme where

862
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: they see each other. There's a chance that you see

863
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: other men in that situation because there's not much you

864
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: can do if you get on a Saturday or Sunday

865
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: during the fall or you never know, you know, Kentucky,

866
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: Derby's Masters, you name it. You could just see a

867
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: guy just sitting there, not especially his wife's in a

868
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: different room, so it's not like he's gonna get in

869
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: any trouble.

870
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, my wife went to like some pregnancy classes.

871
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 2: She really wanted to go to this one pregnancy class

872
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 2: where they like teach you basic stuff.

873
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: I went, I went. Did you go? Now?

874
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 2: The one she wanted to go to was a Sunday

875
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 2: at one o'clock. It was Sunday to Sunday two thirty

876
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 2: on the NFL Sunday. She didn't even ask me to go.

877
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 2: Uh she's she's uh, she's good like that. She she

878
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 2: knows that I wasn't gonna. It's partly my work too,

879
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 2: but I.

880
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: Mean she she had to go to private school or

881
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: you want him to go.

882
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 2: To Yeah, she was sending me she was like, it's

883
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 2: I don't know, she's been send me a tout like

884
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 2: I don't know how these uh wis all got their

885
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 2: husbands to go to a class on an NFL Sunday.

886
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 2: And then she was sending me pictures of all the

887
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 2: guys like, uh, just from like far she zoom in

888
00:47:58,080 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 2: and snap on a guy that was like checking his

889
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 2: fantasy streaming a game.

890
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, but.

891
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,240
Speaker 2: The grind must go on. So we were on to college.

892
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 2: It's about football, is don't toe it really good? I

893
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 2: mean starting, I mean tonight really we're recording this on

894
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 2: a Thursday. I have Rams Seahawks, which is an amazing game.

895
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 2: Seahawks win, your forty nine ers controlled around Destiny for

896
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 2: the one seed, which is pretty crazy.

897
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: So to Seattle though, Right, but they play each other, right, Yeah,

898
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying like they'd have one more win

899
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 1: and the Niners still play the Bears.

900
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's not easy, but if it's it's pretty crazy.

901
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 2: Think about like where the forty nine ers were injury

902
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 2: wise all year, but then College Wall playoff Friday night.

903
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: College Wall playoffs Saturday, NFL. Now Saturday is NFL Sunday.

904
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 2: So like the football over the next two months is

905
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 2: going to be really, really good.

906
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: Let's just start because we have to talk too long

907
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: about the college football because there's only a couple of

908
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: good games out of the four. But I'm sure you

909
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: know you've had a lot going on. The Clatt tape

910
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: take went pretty viral about we don't want Cinderella's in

911
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: college football, and I don't know how anyone would push

912
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: back against that. In the sense that, like the same

913
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: teams dominate every year our entire life. There's been the

914
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: occasional boise and TCU. But this is not college basketball

915
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,720
Speaker 1: and anyone. I mean when I was at cal Poly,

916
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: you could have games against UCLA where you're like, you know,

917
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: giving them a basketball is a lot different than football,

918
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,720
Speaker 1: like you've got no shot. And the only reason this exists.

919
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 1: And the other thing Clatt talked about, which is not

920
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: controversy at all, it's just a fact because I had

921
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: a buddy that's like a minor league baseball player and

922
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 1: he hit me up, can you explain to me how

923
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: these programs are in the playoffs like JMU, And I'm like, well,

924
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: the lawsuit they had to give them a spot, and

925
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: then the ACC the conference championship deal the top five,

926
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: so kind of it threw like Notre Dame should normally

927
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 1: be in. And if I think if tulanees in and

928
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: Notre Dame's in, it's not Is this even a controversial playoff? Really,

929
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: they're just the twelve seed, Like yeah.

930
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 2: We're gonna constantly change it like last week. The funny

931
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 2: thing is if we have the same format as last year,

932
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 2: Ohio State would be playing JMU and then Ohio State

933
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 2: would play Tulane in the second round because tu Lane

934
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 2: would have a bye. That is way more broken than

935
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 2: we have this year. So they fixed that. What I

936
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 2: think the main culprit this year everyone was getting mad

937
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 2: at the wrong things was the ACC, like their tie break.

938
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 2: The first of all, the AC was terrible, but their

939
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 2: tiebreaker situation was a disaster. Like you have certain conferences

940
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,959
Speaker 2: the American included with Tulane the Mountain West where they stay.

941
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 2: The first tiebreaker is the highest ranked college football playoff team.

942
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 2: So even if you have six teams, and if you

943
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 2: want to even go a step further than, one of

944
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 2: the culprits of this is these expanded conferences, right like

945
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 2: the ACC eighteen teams, So you have these completely unbalanced schedules, right,

946
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 2: So you could have teams that play, you know, the

947
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 2: play Stanford and Cal and Virginia Tech, and they played

948
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 2: a bunch of bad teams and they have the same record.

949
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: The way that you rectify that is you say, okay,

950
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,959
Speaker 2: even if we have six teams tied, the first team

951
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 2: will be whoever's ranked highest in the College Wall Playoff.

952
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 2: The second is the second team record. But if no one,

953
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 2: then you go to the other type rakers. So in

954
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 2: this case, you would have had Miami in the College Wall.

955
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 2: I mean in the AEC championship game, which would have

956
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 2: solved everything because Miami would have either won the ACC championship,

957
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 2: right and they're the ACC champion in and then Notre

958
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 2: Dame would have also been in, or they would have

959
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:51,399
Speaker 2: lost and Miami would have been out, and Virginia if

960
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 2: they would have won, they would have been in not

961
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,919
Speaker 2: a five loss duke team and then jam you would

962
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 2: have been out as well. That's so they'll fix that,

963
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 2: I imagine. But these, like these expanded confidences lead to this.

964
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 2: You have to have the right time breakers in place.

965
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: I do think what's inevitable though, is like and listen,

966
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: I got my start at Fresno State, is like the

967
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: non power force to just have their own playoffs kind

968
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: of d ONEAE. Now, the problem is they want, they

969
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 1: want their opportunity to get in that money, and that

970
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 1: that's what complicates it. But there is You could make

971
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: the argument that even Tulane who played Ole Miss and

972
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 1: lost by you know what, thirty five points, thirty five

973
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,879
Speaker 1: point forty five to ten without the score, so it's

974
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 1: just we don't need to include these aren't This is

975
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: not basketball. Football is dramatically different, and that could wipe

976
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: out the Bowl games and give ESPN the inventory of

977
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: just Fresno States playing Tulane. You know, you give me

978
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: games that you and I and most casual fans sending

979
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: a home and there's nothing going on like a you know,

980
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: Friday night. Just watch those couple of games throughout the

981
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 1: next couple of weeks, right, yeah, I.

982
00:52:55,840 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 2: Mean they're mainly be events as the Bowl games are.

983
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, what what this is going to

984
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 2: lead to? I think, I mean, I think that's eventually

985
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 2: where we'll get to.

986
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: You know, non power four power four yeah, and then but.

987
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 2: I think in the short term it's just gonna lead

988
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 2: to expansion again. So we're probably gonna go to sixteen teams.

989
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: And the what.

990
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 2: But what I don't think people people found to understand

991
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 2: is that more teams leads to more arguments, not fewer.

992
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 2: And because you just say, oh, well, let's let's expand

993
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 2: it because this year then you know, Notre Dame would

994
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 2: have been in and uh like the games. But every

995
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 2: time you do that, you're you're just gonna argue about

996
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 2: more things. If you'd argue over the byes, if you

997
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 2: argue number team fifteen or sixteen, right, I mean I've

998
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 2: always said, and it's never going to go back to this,

999
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 2: that eight is the perfect number. And you would have

1000
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:59,720
Speaker 2: your your four Power four champs from conference championship weekend,

1001
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 2: throw throw your G six one G six team in,

1002
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 2: and then you have three wild cards. And the reason

1003
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 2: I like that is eight keeps the regular season very

1004
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 2: highly leveraged throughout. It keeps conference championship weekend, which who

1005
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 2: knows at this rate and keeping expending might go away.

1006
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 2: We might have like playing games in different conferences, but

1007
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 2: it keeps that weekend really important, and then you you

1008
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 2: don't have as many arguments, but the conference championship regular

1009
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 2: season is still really important. And like who would be.

1010
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: Who would be right? Now? The four? We know the four,

1011
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: which is so Duke would be in.

1012
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 2: Technically yeah, Duke would be in. So that I mean

1013
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 2: now again, ACC needs to change there if they change

1014
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 2: their tiebreakers, snars, you never have something like that happen,

1015
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 2: and any system that you have is is going to

1016
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 2: be flawed. I also don't think there should be any

1017
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 2: auto bids, but I mean auto buys. Uh, So that's

1018
00:54:58,080 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 2: how I would do it. But it's never going back

1019
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 2: to eight. We're we're just going to expand and there's

1020
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 2: gonna be more questions and like because conference championship weekend

1021
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 2: now just feels cheaper, right, like Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, Indiana.

1022
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,479
Speaker 2: I was cool, but like we were the there wasn't

1023
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 2: like both teams.

1024
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 1: I actually commend them for playing hard because they didn't

1025
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: really need I mean, Indiana was trying. It was a

1026
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: If Indiana loses in the second round like that, that

1027
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: game is veryful. Yeah, that's that's the most meaning. Unless

1028
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: they win the national championship this year, it's hard to ever.

1029
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 1: I mean that's the biggest win the history of the

1030
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: program by a country mile, right.

1031
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:40,879
Speaker 2: Yes, by far. The Yeah so what Klatt said, Yeah,

1032
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 2: you don't want to have like two college felave ploff

1033
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 2: first round games that have spreads of seventeen.

1034
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: And that's my only strong feeling, like I got you know,

1035
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, I like Oklahoma, but it's like,

1036
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, Jeometerier. Maybe he's healthier now. He kind

1037
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 1: of was never the same after he got injured. It's

1038
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: like I want to take Miami as a live dog.

1039
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,880
Speaker 1: But if Elko is viewed as like, I don't know,

1040
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: like the chubby Mike McDonald of college football in terms

1041
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: of defensive scheme, like, I don't love Carson Beck against

1042
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,439
Speaker 1: the defensive a guy that, like Nick Saban, picks his brain.

1043
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a tough matchup with a long expansion.

1044
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: I would say this Oregon last year had so much

1045
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 1: hype and they got well well to score after a

1046
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: quarter was a twenty eight nothing, I mean nothing. Yeah,

1047
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 1: it was over for a team that like two legit teams.

1048
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: That's as quick as you'll see a game over as

1049
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 1: I can ever remember. I do think that that's an

1050
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 1: easy Like we're on a mission this year. We were

1051
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 1: embarrassed last year and it just happens jam used their

1052
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 1: first opponent who clearly is not you know, has no

1053
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: business playing them. That thing could get ugly fast.

1054
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, my only concern starting with that game.

1055
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: Again, assuming it's not pouring rain or something.

1056
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think Jamius defense is legit. Like you

1057
00:56:58,200 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 2: could do you adjust for opponent. It's they're like a

1058
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 2: top fifteen twenty defense. They played Louisville. It was a

1059
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 2: good offense. They have NFL players, Chris Bell, they're running back.

1060
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 2: That game was fourteen to six at Louisville. Jamie was

1061
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 2: leading in the fourth quarter, and then there was a

1062
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 2: broken play, a sack for a touchdown, and then a

1063
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 2: broken play at the end, and Love ended up winning

1064
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 2: twenty eight fourteen. But I do think the Jamu defense

1065
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:28,439
Speaker 2: is legit. The offense, I think is gonna it's gonna

1066
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 2: struggle mightily. The biggest problem for them. I mean, their

1067
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 2: receivers are probably aren't gonna get any separation, and their

1068
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 2: offensive line is gonna get demolished. I mean, I think

1069
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 2: they only have like two guys over two ninety two

1070
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 2: ninety five. So how does Jamie move the ball? I

1071
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:46,479
Speaker 2: don't know. They are really really slow, so they're gonna

1072
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 2: like run it rely on their defense. Oregon, I imagine

1073
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 2: it's like the one thing I'm because winning by more

1074
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 2: than twenty one, like take some against a good defense

1075
00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 2: takes some effort and care to want to blow a

1076
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 2: team out. And Oregon will have a huge game next week.

1077
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: Right, So we saw this last year, right Ohio State,

1078
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: some of these teams kind of with a chip on

1079
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 1: their shoulder. Now Oregon's been playing well, it's not like

1080
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: their chip on the shoulders same as Ohio State. But

1081
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 1: that first round last year was blood Central.

1082
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 2: Well, Yeah, it's interesting bringing that up. So maybe I

1083
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 2: think I actually I played some under early in that

1084
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 2: Oregon Jamiugay. I just don't think the jamiu offen is

1085
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 2: gonna do anything. And then I do think the jamiu

1086
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 2: de defense can can put up enough of a fight.

1087
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 2: And I'm not sure like Oregon has wide receiver injuries now,

1088
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 2: so they've been relying more on like their tight ends

1089
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 2: their running game lately, so that would lend itself to

1090
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 2: an under. I think it'll be slow paced, and I

1091
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 2: don't think Oregon needs to show a ton here in

1092
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 2: this game to win it. But if you recall last year,

1093
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 2: this is the first year of the expanded playoffs, so

1094
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 2: we had, you know, four first round home playoff games,

1095
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 2: and those I'm not sure that anybody really knows yet

1096
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 2: because the sample size is so small. How like electric

1097
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 2: home field or a collegeball team in a playoff home

1098
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 2: game can be especially at night, right, And if you

1099
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 2: look back last year you had Ohio State crushed Tennessee.

1100
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: The Dame was at night.

1101
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that game was at night. I mean all four

1102
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 2: home teams won and covered last year Oklahoma in Norman

1103
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 2: at night. It's gonna be windy, like pretty significant wins cold.

1104
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 2: I mean that place is gonna be electric and Alabama

1105
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 2: with the wind, I'm not sure Ty Simpson's fully healthy.

1106
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 2: He's been doing like a back issue and he just

1107
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 2: hasn't been the same over the last month of the year.

1108
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 2: I mean Bama kind of stumbled down the stretch. You

1109
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 2: and Dema cannot run the ball at all. They cannot

1110
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:50,919
Speaker 2: run it. I mean in negative three rushing yards versus

1111
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 2: Georgia throwing the wind in a one dimensional offense in

1112
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 2: that atmosphere. Against Oklahoma with you know, even more time

1113
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 2: to prepare for venables, I think Oklahoma gets it done.

1114
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 2: Maybe the teer is healthier. Our Mason Thomas is going

1115
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 2: to be a first round draft pick. He's back for Oklahoma.

1116
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 2: He's one of the best edge rushers in the country.

1117
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 2: He's been out since that Tennessee game where he had

1118
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 2: that strip return for a touchdown and he pulled his

1119
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 2: hammy running down the field. So I'm gonna trust the

1120
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 2: Oklahoma defense. The Oklahoma offense can be very ugly to watch.

1121
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 2: I mean, the totals forty for a reason. This is

1122
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 2: gonna be what would you.

1123
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: Say the Texans are their comp Yes, yeah, and dominant defense,

1124
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: dominant defensive head coach who's awesome, you know, as long

1125
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 1: his resume is longer than the Mikos. But you know

1126
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 1: the quarterback early on Matier looked awesome, then he got

1127
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 1: banged up. Cjy's she's actually playing well right now. Obviously

1128
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: CJ is better than John Matier.

1129
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 2: Sure, but you know that's a comparison. Like the Texans

1130
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 2: offense can still be wonky, and they can still struggle

1131
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 2: to finish drives. Their offensive line isn't great. That's all

1132
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 2: the same things for Oklahoma. The one I will say,

1133
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 2: like margins are very thin this time of the Y.

1134
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 2: Like we know these teams are, like they already played

1135
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 2: now Alcaholm already beat Alabama, but Alabama did dominate the

1136
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 2: game statistically. They just turned the ball over, one of

1137
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 2: the biggest advantages in this game, which can be super important.

1138
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 2: With the total forty close game you know, should be

1139
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 2: super competitive. The Oklahoma special teams are way better than Alabama's.

1140
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 2: Alabama's had kicker issues, They've had issues across their special teams.

1141
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 2: You saw the Georgia game, they got a punt block.

1142
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 2: Oklahoma special team has been a lead all year. They

1143
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 2: have Tate Sandel, who's he's he'd won the louverrows. He's

1144
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 2: been the best kicker in college football this year. He's

1145
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 2: good from He had a couple of fifty plus yarders

1146
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 2: at Tennessee. That could be a huge advantage in that game.

1147
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 2: So I like Oklahoma. The A and M game is

1148
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 2: interesting win there too, so there could be some impactful wins,

1149
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 2: which could That's why the totals come down a bit.

1150
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 2: I don't mind that under I played some first half

1151
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 2: under the What I'm looking for there, I mean Mario

1152
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 2: Chris Ball's not been reliable in big spots, especially on

1153
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 2: the road. Carson Beck has struggled on the road throughout

1154
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 2: his career, and he can't really move. This is a

1155
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 2: but this is a He's not like a runner. A

1156
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 2: and M is gonna play a lot of man defense.

1157
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 2: This is a great in the trenches matchup. This is

1158
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 2: like elite Texas. A and M is an elite offensive line.

1159
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 2: Miami has an lead offensive line, text an M is

1160
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 2: an elite defensive line. Miami is an elite defensive line.

1161
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 2: Like these are. You could argue their top five offensive

1162
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 2: and defensive lines going against each.

1163
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 1: Other like grown man game.

1164
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of pros. Whoever wins that battle and

1165
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 2: like make some more plays, you know, if you have,

1166
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 2: like if Ruben Bain is winning his one on ones,

1167
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 2: if Cash's House winning his one on ones, like so,

1168
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 2: but I'm looking for A and M has been a

1169
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 2: very good second half team all year. I did play

1170
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 2: some first half under I think it's like the passing

1171
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 2: is gonna be a little stunned because of the wind.

1172
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 2: Miami usually comes out very conservative, tries to run the ball.

1173
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 2: A and M gives up a bunch of run explosives,

1174
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 2: but Miami's not really they have. They have this new

1175
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 2: freshman they've been running a bit more, is explosive. Maybe

1176
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 2: he can be a key, but mind he's not an

1177
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 2: explosive running team. So I think both teams are going

1178
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 2: to come out and kind of feel each other out.

1179
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 2: It'll be lower scoring at first. Miami's gonna get want

1180
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 2: their best cornerback from injury, Keante Scott. That's important because

1181
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 2: A and M is really good receivers. But I and

1182
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 2: A and M is getting a couple defenders back as well.

1183
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 2: So I think this will start slow, lower scoring. But

1184
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 2: my if A and M is down at any point

1185
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 2: in the first half. I'll be looking to bet work

1186
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,600
Speaker 2: second half, bet them second half, or bet them live,

1187
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 2: because I trust Elko way more than crystal Ball to

1188
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 2: make in game adjustments. So I'll be looking to bet

1189
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 2: A and M live and cryst of all, there's never

1190
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 2: a game he hasn't known that he'll give away. I

1191
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 2: mean they will go into a shell if they have

1192
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 2: a lead, they'll make bad time management decisions like all

1193
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 2: that is into play here, and we've seen A and

1194
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 2: M be dominating second halfs all year. Go back to

1195
01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 2: the South Carolina again, They're not thirty to nothing at

1196
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 2: the half and they come back to win. So that's

1197
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 2: what I'm looking for there.

1198
01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 1: And then the other game, well, Elco would be if

1199
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 1: we did a coaching draft from scratch, everyone's available. You know,

1200
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 1: I think so many people watch the marquee teams. A

1201
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 1: and M is for being a you know, a high

1202
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:12,560
Speaker 1: level program that playing the SEC and obviously this year

1203
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 1: they were, you know, competing to be the number one

1204
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 1: team throughout the country. They don't feel like the most

1205
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 1: consumed team in the country. And he's a little under

1206
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: the radar for a guy that he's proven he can

1207
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 1: coach at an academic place in Duke. He's coaching at

1208
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 1: you know, kind of a renegade program where you got

1209
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 1: money and you can do whatever you want. He's coach

1210
01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 1: for Brian Kelly. I think he's probably, in a weird way,

1211
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 1: one of the most under the radar coaches that we

1212
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 1: just talk about, like you know, Kirby Landing, Ryan Day,

1213
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 1: Like no one unless you're really like nerdy football guy.

1214
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 1: I think he's a baller.

1215
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 2: Yes, it's true football guy, like you just need just

1216
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 2: know that. That's all. He eats, breeze and sleeps.

1217
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 1: He's a lot of food too. He ain't missing many meals.

1218
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 2: Yes, he's eating more than football. So yeah, I love

1219
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 2: belcol And I think Mario is a hard head coach,

1220
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 2: great recruiter, uh And Heatherman's a good DC.

1221
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 1: It's very He's an unreal number two, like if you

1222
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 1: got Saving or Kirby or something and just make him

1223
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 1: your assistant head coach recruiting, kind of like a right.

1224
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 2: Yes line coach develop offensive lineman. But as far as

1225
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 2: like in gay Man, I mean go back. I mean

1226
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 2: I could go on and on about the I mean

1227
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 2: the Georgia Tech game where they didn't take a knee

1228
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 2: and they fumbled and then lost when they could have

1229
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 2: just needed There are so many of those, so many

1230
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:35,080
Speaker 2: like late game time management, all those little things.

1231
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 1: Where he's so bad at It happened at Organ right

1232
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 1: against I.

1233
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 2: Lost a bet. They could have just kneeled again. They

1234
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 2: didn't even learn his lesson. Happened twice in the last

1235
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 2: ten years. That never happens. They could have kneeled against

1236
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 2: Stanford and then ended up losing in overtime. I had

1237
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 2: Organ that game horrendous. So yeah, those little things could

1238
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 2: come into play and decide this Like I could see

1239
01:05:57,720 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 2: A and M coming back and winning, Mario messing it

1240
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:02,919
Speaker 2: up and back making maybe a mistake or two, which

1241
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 2: so I think A and M gets it done at home.

1242
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 2: So I like all the home teams, and I think

1243
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 2: Old Miss has too much for two lane. The two

1244
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 2: lane defense is not great. They should have had a

1245
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 2: couple more losses this year. Retzlaf's gonna have to use

1246
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:16,280
Speaker 2: his legs, but I don't know if he can against

1247
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 2: an SEC defense. The best part about the two lane

1248
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 2: defense is their pass rush. But Shambliss and his legs

1249
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 2: and I think All Miss will be super motivated here

1250
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 2: after Lane left at home. You have this coaching staff,

1251
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna come. They have a lot of

1252
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 2: time to prepare for this game. You're gonna see a

1253
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 2: bunch of wrinkles and uh, I think they put it

1254
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 2: on two lane. So yeah, I'm gonna I'm I think

1255
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 2: that that the trend continues and the home teams uh

1256
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 2: dominate again. But uh, I certainly could be wrong, but

1257
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:47,640
Speaker 2: definitely looking forward to these games.

1258
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 1: Okay, let's let's talk about the National Football League. All

1259
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 1: these lines are presented by our our friends and partners

1260
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 1: at hard Rock BET. I kind of like that this week,

1261
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 1: and really this happens at the end of the season,

1262
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 1: like two games being correlated because you've got two teams

1263
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 1: either battling for a division or you know, battling for

1264
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 1: a wildcard spot. And we talked about last weekend the

1265
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 1: Texans against the Cards. I did it, and I just

1266
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 1: think they're really motivated and it paid off well. This

1267
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 1: week they're playing the Raiders, who you're lucky you were

1268
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 1: having a child and you probably never saw a highlight

1269
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 1: on the red zone of the Raiders because they didn't

1270
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 1: get to one hundred yards.

1271
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 2: And I had the under eight and the Eagles you

1272
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:44,640
Speaker 2: got a seventeen play ninety yard drive, but it took

1273
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 2: twelve minutes in the fourth quarter and got stopped at

1274
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 2: the one. By the way, that was more yards than

1275
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 2: the Raiders out of the entire game.

1276
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 1: That's crazy. So I and the Jacks who just coming off.

1277
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 1: You know, I would imagine statistically, when Trevor Lawrence's better game,

1278
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: what do you count for six touchdown through five and

1279
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 1: ran for one? It's hard to do. I don't care

1280
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 1: what level you do that in high school. That's impressive,

1281
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 1: let alone against football. Now, granted you're playing Steve Wilks,

1282
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 1: who's kind of you know him, and Aaron Glenn. Not

1283
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:12,200
Speaker 1: sure what those guys like, Aaron, aren't you the defensive

1284
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 1: guy like? I don't quite understand. But I do think

1285
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 1: the Texans are really motivated this week because if the

1286
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 1: Texas or if the Jags were playing someone really crappy.

1287
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 1: Let's say they were playing the Cardinals this week, this

1288
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 1: line would be a little big for me. But like

1289
01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:30,640
Speaker 1: they're playing Denver, so I think it's easy in your

1290
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 1: mind to like, these guys might lose and now we

1291
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 1: got serious life, So we're playing this team like we'd

1292
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 1: be playing the Ravens or something. So I expect the

1293
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 1: Texans to give an effort like they're playing a playoff

1294
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 1: team even though they're playing I mean, I don't know,

1295
01:08:43,920 --> 01:08:45,679
Speaker 1: one of the worst teams we've seen in recent memory,

1296
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 1: and the Jags like I like Denver. So I'm hammering

1297
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 1: the Texans again. Big number fourteen fourteen and a half

1298
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 1: is kind of moving up, and I'm gonna take Denver

1299
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,679
Speaker 1: at home. I think you know bo Nicks, who again

1300
01:08:57,720 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 1: looked like he was I don't know how much of

1301
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 1: that you saw. He was like touched by an angel.

1302
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 1: Best game you're ever going to see him play. He

1303
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 1: was fantastic. So if he can build off that confidence.

1304
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 1: To me, if he plays like that, Denver is a

1305
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:11,479
Speaker 1: live Super Bowl champ team, you know. I mean, if

1306
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:14,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna get a good quarterback play, they're beating anybody

1307
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,919
Speaker 1: in the NFL, especially at home with home field advantage.

1308
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:19,679
Speaker 1: I do think coming off this game, Liam Cohen, they've

1309
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 1: done an excellent job this year. A little different animal

1310
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 1: on the road in Denver against this defense. So I'm

1311
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 1: correlating these two games. I'm taking the Texans and I'm

1312
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 1: taking Denver, you know to cover against the Jags.

1313
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 2: I but yeah, that one interesting, really interesting nugget is

1314
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 2: that the Ravens win and I do like the Ravens

1315
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 2: this week. If the Ravens win and the Steelers and

1316
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:43,640
Speaker 2: the Lions win against the Steelers, they're both favored. The

1317
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 2: Steelers and Ravens play for nothing next week. No matter

1318
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:49,719
Speaker 2: what happens, the division will come down to Week eighteen,

1319
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 2: which is even more interesting because the Ravens played the

1320
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 2: Packers on Saturday night. NFL won't be too happy if

1321
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 2: this happens because I imagine, why would you play lamar

1322
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 2: as dealing with injuries? But that could impact the NFC seeding,

1323
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:07,919
Speaker 2: the NF the division and with green.

1324
01:10:07,760 --> 01:10:10,599
Speaker 1: Bay, the Steelers don't need to win either of these

1325
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 1: next two games.

1326
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 2: Correct correct, well, they if they win both and the

1327
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 2: Ravens lose both, which is possible, then uhon and will

1328
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 2: win the division before Week eighteen because Ravens played the

1329
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 2: Patriots this week and then the Packers. But if the

1330
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 2: gap is only one game, so like, if they both

1331
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 2: win this week or uh they both lose this week,

1332
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 2: the Ravens have the tiebreaker, which is we if they

1333
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 2: win week eighteen, which is weird because the Steelers have

1334
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:52,840
Speaker 2: already beat them, but they would have the same division record.

1335
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 2: It will go down to common opponents, which the Ravens

1336
01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 2: have already locked up. So yeah, there's a chance that

1337
01:10:59,439 --> 01:11:01,680
Speaker 2: they're their game next week. Don't mean anything, just some

1338
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 2: throwing that out there because Ravens Packers do play on

1339
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 2: Saturday night. I'm gonna disagree. I I'm probably the idiot.

1340
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 2: I played the Raiders plus fourteen and a half. It

1341
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 2: is absolutely horrendous, But this is this is one of

1342
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 2: my favorite spots that I've played forever. Number One. I

1343
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 2: haven't seen the Texans injury report today, but do they

1344
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 2: they really need to push everyone? Like Stingley's banged up lassiter,

1345
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 2: I don't. I mean Stingley's dealing with a an oblique again,

1346
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 2: which you dealt with earlier in the year. So maybe

1347
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 2: they're not fully healthy. But the Raiders could get Colton

1348
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 2: Miller back, who's like a top five left tackle. He's

1349
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 2: practicing today. The Robins line is still gonna be bad,

1350
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,600
Speaker 2: but that'll help immensely. Like you go back to like

1351
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 2: the Giants when they would lose like Andrew Thomas, and

1352
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 2: then they would just deteriorate into dust. But if you

1353
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 2: have like a Pro Bowl calver left tackle, it makes

1354
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 2: the whole operation a bit smoother. I so, but I

1355
01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 2: do think we're at the top of the market on

1356
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 2: the Texans. Like now everyone is saying Texans are live

1357
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:03,560
Speaker 2: for the Super Bowl or the best team they have

1358
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 2: see and some of those things might be true, but

1359
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 2: usually that's a signal like we're all right, we're at

1360
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 2: the peak of the market. On Texans. Who won sixth straight,

1361
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 2: and I will say caveats some of those wins, like

1362
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:16,000
Speaker 2: the Bills didn't have an offensive line, Daniel Jones got

1363
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 2: hurt for the Colts, the Chiefs didn't have an offensive line,

1364
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 2: the Cardinals whole team was out, so they've benefited from

1365
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 2: some injuries. They won six straight. Only one of those

1366
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:25,600
Speaker 2: teams is gone to the playoffs, and I think that

1367
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 2: they're at the top of the market. Meanwhile, the Raiders,

1368
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 2: they're coming off a shutout loss within seventy five yards.

1369
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:32,600
Speaker 2: It doesn't get more of the bottom. So this is

1370
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:34,599
Speaker 2: just the classic Bilo so high for me, teams off

1371
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 2: a shutout loss are fifty eight percent historically against the spread.

1372
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:41,880
Speaker 2: On the road, they're sixty four percent as a road

1373
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 2: dog sixty six percent. But one of my fans, and look,

1374
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:48,400
Speaker 2: the Raiders haven't. They're a really really bad team, but

1375
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 2: they haven't. So they've been blought out a bunch this

1376
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 2: year and they're four and one against the spread after

1377
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 2: blowout losses. So like they lost, they've lost by seventeen

1378
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 2: or more five times after those games. They lost by

1379
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 2: one to the Bears. They the Titans by ten, they

1380
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 2: lost by one to the Jags, they lost by seven

1381
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 2: to the Broncos and covered, and then they lost by

1382
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 2: fourteen to the Browns. It's the only time they didn't cover.

1383
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 2: But one of my favorite spots is in the NFL,

1384
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 2: it doesn't happen often, and it's gone fifty to twenty

1385
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 2: five against the spread over the past twenty years. You

1386
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 2: have a double digit underdog in the NFL that was

1387
01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:25,800
Speaker 2: a double digit underdog the week before and didn't cover,

1388
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 2: and and it's hit, as you know, sixty seven percent

1389
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 2: by about four points per game on average over the

1390
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 2: past twenty five years. The reason I do I love

1391
01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:37,560
Speaker 2: that that trend is it really is just speaking to

1392
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 2: buy and low because think about it, last week, the

1393
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 2: Raiders were so to be a double digital two weeks. Amow,

1394
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:47,000
Speaker 2: you gotta be a really bad team and then you

1395
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 2: got blown out and you didn't cover, right, So bad

1396
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 2: team blown out as a double digit underdog didn't cover

1397
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:55,719
Speaker 2: just like last week at the Raiders, the lost thirty

1398
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:58,560
Speaker 2: one nothing. They had seventy five yards. Who in the

1399
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 2: right mind wants to bet that bad team again against

1400
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:06,080
Speaker 2: another good team as a double digit underdog. Nobody, right,

1401
01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 2: So usually you might get a point or and I

1402
01:14:08,439 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 2: projected sign it like thirteen thirteen and a half. So

1403
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:13,680
Speaker 2: I think that's why we're getting over two touchdowns. I

1404
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:15,600
Speaker 2: still I need over two touchdowns to play this like

1405
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 2: fourteen if you wanted to like fourteen. I mean the

1406
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 2: Raiders could lose thirty, they could lose thirty and nothing.

1407
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 2: That's fine, but that's it's one of my favorite And

1408
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:26,559
Speaker 2: these are still professionals, like after getting embarrassed to expect

1409
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 2: them the show up. But that is one of my

1410
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 2: favorite trends. Double digit dog got blown out, didn't cover

1411
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 2: double digit dog again the next week. So like the

1412
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:40,040
Speaker 2: I like the Raiders. Broncos Jags interesting game. The Jags

1413
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:42,120
Speaker 2: have been on fire. I mean their defense top five

1414
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:44,760
Speaker 2: against the run of all year they're I mean since

1415
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 2: Week eight, their top five and EPA per play.

1416
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 1: It's don't getting wrong. I think they're good. You know,

1417
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 1: I've I've shopped on them in the past. Like I

1418
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 1: think this is a good team coming into Denver. I'm

1419
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:58,560
Speaker 1: just taking Denver more. Yeah, now it opens up like

1420
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 1: we control our destiny getting the one seed. They get

1421
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:04,680
Speaker 1: the one seed. I it's gonna be pretty hard for

1422
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 1: them not to be in the super Bowl, assuming bo

1423
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 1: Nicks is just solid, Like, that's gonna be a tough

1424
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 1: place to go in and beat him. Even if Josh

1425
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 1: has to go there like his their team is just

1426
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 1: way better.

1427
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:15,720
Speaker 2: Well, I mean in look at the AFC playoffs. I mean, yeah,

1428
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 2: the Ravens might not be there. The Chiefs aren't going

1429
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 2: to be there. You know, Burrow is not going to

1430
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 2: be there. It's it's a lot easier path than it's

1431
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 2: been big time. But yeah, the Jags offense you mentioned it,

1432
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 2: it's it's since since acquiring Jacobe Myers, he's been a revelation.

1433
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 2: I mean since they got him. Their third and drop

1434
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:38,760
Speaker 2: back success rate Brenton Strange them getting him back to

1435
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 2: if this went to three and a half, I would

1436
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 2: look at the Jags, but the I don't blame you

1437
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 2: for taking the Broncos here, but I will say team's

1438
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 2: on eleven plus game winning streaks since nineteen ninety, which

1439
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:56,600
Speaker 2: the Broncos are fourteen thirty six and two against the

1440
01:15:56,600 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 2: spread twenty eight percent. So we it just speaks to

1441
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 2: a lot of times you might be at the top

1442
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:03,720
Speaker 2: of the market value in the Broncos. But it does

1443
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:06,720
Speaker 2: seem like the market doesn't really buy the Broncos. So

1444
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that they're one of those teams that

1445
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:12,680
Speaker 2: gets totally overinflated. My last note on that game. If

1446
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 2: the Jags win, I mean Jags, so listen to this.

1447
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 2: Jags win and then they win out and they have

1448
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 2: the Titans and Colts left. If the Broncos, who go

1449
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 2: to Kansas City, so you think that they they'll win

1450
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:30,560
Speaker 2: now without Momes. But if the Broncos lose to the

1451
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 2: Chargers in the finale and the Patriots lose to the

1452
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 2: Ravens this week, even if the Patriots went out, the

1453
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 2: Jags have the one seed. That's the path of the

1454
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 2: Jags one seed, even if the Bills went out, So

1455
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 2: I if the Bills went out and they get the

1456
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:49,559
Speaker 2: thirteen wins. You can have five teams and NFC finished

1457
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 2: with thirteen wins. If that happens, Pats win the division,

1458
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 2: Pats have Tibreger Rebells, Chargers would win the division over

1459
01:16:56,840 --> 01:17:00,679
Speaker 2: the Broncos, and the Jags would have the one seed.

1460
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:02,680
Speaker 2: So there's still a path for the Jags that have

1461
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 2: a one seed. Broncos they win this game, sitting very

1462
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 2: pretty for the one seed. But yeah, AFC playoffs, Like

1463
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 2: the path is there for the Broncos this year and

1464
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 2: for for any of these season getting that one seed,

1465
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 2: especially with all these quarterbacks who might not these you know,

1466
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 2: elite quarterbacks. The pesties aren't going to be in it.

1467
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 2: Like can you get to play in Denver? Like you

1468
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 2: got to really like your chances.

1469
01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:32,080
Speaker 1: Well that's why the uh, your squad and the Steelers.

1470
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:35,679
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just Recncy biased. I didn't think the Steelers

1471
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 1: have just been pretty solid the last couple of weeks,

1472
01:17:37,640 --> 01:17:40,879
Speaker 1: especially you know, I get there playing Miami, but Miami's

1473
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 1: defense was playing pretty well. I mean that game through

1474
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 1: a quarter and a half, it was like this is intense.

1475
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 1: They kind of it felt like Miami was the Steelers.

1476
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:49,679
Speaker 1: They just happened to have Tua and then they score

1477
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:51,640
Speaker 1: going into half, they score coming out of half, and

1478
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 1: it's just like, Okay, they found their mojo. You know,

1479
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 1: DK's made some big plays for him over the last

1480
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. I clearly they challenged him a little bit.

1481
01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 1: You know. I think when after they beat you guys

1482
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 1: and Rogers after the game was like, you know, he

1483
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 1: had a great week. You could tell. It's like, we

1484
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 1: paid a lot of money for you, bro, we need

1485
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 1: you to be a star. And it feels like he's

1486
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 1: brought a little motor because they need him. I mean

1487
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 1: it's I mean, they're Adam Thielen's out there. I mean,

1488
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 1: they don't exactly have Plexico or you know some of

1489
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:17,639
Speaker 1: the receivers of old you know, heines Ward walking through

1490
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 1: that door. You know, Detroit's not dead officially, but they

1491
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 1: lose this game, it's over right, so they are truly

1492
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 1: playing for their lives. But you know, coming off the

1493
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 1: shorter week, I thought Detroit through everything they had at

1494
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 1: the Rams and to lose that game, I mean they

1495
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 1: had I mean Saint Brown and Jameson Williams went for

1496
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 1: like twenty catches three hundred yards and three touchdowns. It's

1497
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:43,040
Speaker 1: hard to do much more than that, and they still lost.

1498
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 1: I mean it was technically a touchdown. It felt like,

1499
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 1: you know, they kind of got worked toward the end,

1500
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 1: and I don't know, I just you know, Mar sick

1501
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 1: or whatever this week. That's a pretty devastating loss if

1502
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 1: you're the Patriot, especially with the young team, especially a

1503
01:18:57,080 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 1: young quarterback. You have the twenty one nothing the league.

1504
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 1: There's a lot of pressure this week on Vrabel and

1505
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 1: Josh just to kind of calm everyone down, like we're

1506
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:05,960
Speaker 1: not done here. But all of a sudden, you lose

1507
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 1: this game. You know, well, we're just speaking about the

1508
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 1: Bills winning the division. So I'm taking the Ravens minus three,

1509
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 1: but I don't know why. I like the Steelers a

1510
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 1: lot plus seven.

1511
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 2: I'm with you on the Ravens. This is Lamar time.

1512
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:23,400
Speaker 2: I think he's getting incrementally better each week because he's

1513
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 2: eighteen and eight against spread in December, he's never lost

1514
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:27,679
Speaker 2: the game in his career. Between weeks fifteen and eighteen

1515
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:30,840
Speaker 2: and since the biggest story of the Raves is their

1516
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:32,960
Speaker 2: running game is really getting going. I mean six since

1517
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 2: week eight, their second in RUSHIPA, they were twenty second

1518
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:38,519
Speaker 2: over the first seven weeks, like they figured out their

1519
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 2: run game. They're using like Charlie Kohler Moore as a

1520
01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 2: blocker who's like a lead in that aspect, and I

1521
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 2: think you're going to see more RPOs this week. And

1522
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 2: the Patriots defense since Week eight over that same span,

1523
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 2: thirtieth in rushed success rate, thirtieth in RUSHINGPA. They lost

1524
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 2: Nolton Williams, Robert Splane, they're starting linebacker, leading tackler calls

1525
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:56,680
Speaker 2: the defense. He was in a boot yesterday. I think

1526
01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:58,839
Speaker 2: he's going to be out. So now they're the Patriot's

1527
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 2: starting to deal with some injuries there. Last tackle Campbell

1528
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 2: he's still out. They got Verdarian Lowe in there. He's

1529
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 2: not as good. So this Patriots team they lived the

1530
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 2: charmed life. Look, Drake May's outstanding is going to be

1531
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 2: outstanding for years. But you can't argue that the Patriots

1532
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:14,760
Speaker 2: played the single easiest schedule in the NFL over the

1533
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:17,760
Speaker 2: first fourteen weeks, and they played seven of their ten

1534
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 2: wins came against quarterbacks of either rookies or no longer starters.

1535
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 2: I guess eight now because Tua ad Tua to the mix.

1536
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 2: So they played just a clown show of the schedule,

1537
01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 2: and they were lucky. I mean they fourteen to nineteen

1538
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:32,479
Speaker 2: on fourth downs their opponents eight of twenty three. They

1539
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:34,639
Speaker 2: had seventeen fumbles on the year, They've only lost seven.

1540
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 2: They've recovered seventy percent of their opponent's fumbles, and now

1541
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:39,560
Speaker 2: they're hurt. I think the Rings will be able to

1542
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 2: run on them. I think the Rings will be able

1543
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:43,000
Speaker 2: to throw to their tight ends take advantage of the

1544
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 2: Patriots linebackers. They have covered issues over the middle of

1545
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:47,839
Speaker 2: the field. I think this is like your classic Ravens

1546
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:52,519
Speaker 2: home hardball Lamar spot at home. So I do like Baltimore.

1547
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 2: The good thing if you're a Patriots fan, even if

1548
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 2: you lose this game, you you don't have the tiberg

1549
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 2: over the Broncos, So the ones seeds prop doesn't look

1550
01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 2: as good. But if you just take care of the

1551
01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 2: Dolphins that look like they're probably swirling the drain, and

1552
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 2: the Jets the same like you might have to play

1553
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 2: their last two quarterbacks you play might be Brady Cook

1554
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 2: and Quinn Ewers. If you win those two games, you

1555
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:19,759
Speaker 2: win the division because they they will have the tibreak

1556
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:23,639
Speaker 2: over the Bills, so that that's good news for the page.

1557
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 2: But I think the Ravens get this done at home.

1558
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 2: In regards to the Steelers, yeah, I mean DK Metcalf's

1559
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 2: got to be big here. He's him and Rodgers been

1560
01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 2: great together against man coverage. That's what we're gonna see

1561
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:38,240
Speaker 2: a lot of against the Lions. The I do worry

1562
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 2: about the Steelers defense like indoors against this Lions offense,

1563
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 2: and they have in the Steelers defense has some injuries.

1564
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 2: It could get ugly, but I think the Steelers can

1565
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:51,719
Speaker 2: move the ball. One of the things that the Lions

1566
01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 2: do not do well is and this burned them last week.

1567
01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:59,880
Speaker 2: They So you have these teams, now we talked about

1568
01:21:59,880 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 2: this before that are going some of your most elite

1569
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 2: teams in the NFL are using more heavy personnel, using

1570
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 2: more two three tight end sets. The the Rams are

1571
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:13,840
Speaker 2: doing that a ton, the Seahawks do it a ton

1572
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 2: last week, and the Lions. So what you want to

1573
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:21,400
Speaker 2: do is you want to match these heavy personnels, not

1574
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 2: with heavy or your base base meaning that you know

1575
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 2: you're all your linebackers in there. You want to match

1576
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 2: down in distance because if you're just and the Lions

1577
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:33,800
Speaker 2: never do that. They just played bass. So you have

1578
01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:35,800
Speaker 2: lineback and then what teams do that are going heavy

1579
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 2: personnel because you would think naturally, like od they're gonna

1580
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 2: run it, we want to out of linebackers in there.

1581
01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:42,760
Speaker 2: But the teams teams are throwing it right, and then

1582
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 2: their tight ends are going to win these matchups against

1583
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 2: the linebackers. So the Seahawks do this better than any

1584
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 2: defense in the NFL. They don't they match. They don't

1585
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:53,120
Speaker 2: match base with base and heavy. You have a guy

1586
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 2: like nickim and Moore who can play you know, a hybrid,

1587
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:59,680
Speaker 2: but they only match like eighteen percent of the time.

1588
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 2: Think the second lowest is like fifty. The Lions never

1589
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 2: they they will have their base or heavy and all

1590
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 2: the time. And the Rams torched them to death. I

1591
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:09,240
Speaker 2: mean it was like eight and a half yards per

1592
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 2: play on their heavy personnel. That's problematic against the Steelers.

1593
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:15,479
Speaker 2: The Steelers are one of the heavy They're they use

1594
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 2: heavy personnel just as much as anyone. I think they

1595
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 2: use multiple tight ends at the highest rate in the league. Right,

1596
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 2: They're gonna have a ton of tight ends in there,

1597
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:24,640
Speaker 2: and then they're gonna run it. They're gonna throw to

1598
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 2: their tight ends and then you're gonna need Metcalf to

1599
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 2: make a couple of plays. But yeah, I think that

1600
01:23:29,000 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 2: the Steelers can move it.

1601
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 1: On on the game. Game well has been good for

1602
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 1: them lately.

1603
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 2: Yes, Gamewell looks amazing. I mean he's their second best receiver.

1604
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:40,920
Speaker 2: It's good like you you get hit. He's he looks

1605
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 2: in every every game I watch him. He looks amazing.

1606
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean outside of their tight ends, you know,

1607
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 2: if you get the ball to what's his name, Washington

1608
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:52,719
Speaker 2: in space, I mean just a monster. But outside of Metcalf,

1609
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 2: like on third downs, Rogers is looking at game well,

1610
01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:58,360
Speaker 2: that's how you want to get the ball to in space.

1611
01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 2: So uh yeah, I don't. I don't blame me for

1612
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 2: taking the seven there.

1613
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:08,639
Speaker 1: I do what happens City weighs over three hundred pounds

1614
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 1: that the coaches told him that he's playing right now,

1615
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:12,080
Speaker 1: over three hundred pounds insane.

1616
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 2: I do know, no matter what happens, Raven Steelers will

1617
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:17,720
Speaker 2: play in Week eighteen for the division. That's just the

1618
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 2: gods will somehow make that happen.

1619
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 1: A couple other ones, I would say, we hit on

1620
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:40,200
Speaker 1: Sunday night, we get a Monday or in a second.

1621
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 1: The Chiefs Titans things pretty interesting. You know, it's I'm

1622
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:47,439
Speaker 1: not going to judge Minshew off getting thrown at the

1623
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:50,360
Speaker 1: end of the game, but this is a spot where

1624
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 1: you know, he can make some money, keep his career going,

1625
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 1: where you can get these five to ten million dollars

1626
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 1: backup gigs, or it could kind of get ugly, right,

1627
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 1: I mean, he has of all the people. I mean,

1628
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 1: the Titans have nothing on the line. The Chiefs like

1629
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 1: their coach and players. You know. Besides, this might be

1630
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:09,560
Speaker 1: the last couple of games of Kelsey's career. And I

1631
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:11,920
Speaker 1: would guess Chris Jones has traded this offseason just when

1632
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:13,840
Speaker 1: you kind of look at the financials of it. But

1633
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:15,880
Speaker 1: I do think there's a lot on the line for Gardner,

1634
01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 1: and I think, you know, Coach Reid and these guys

1635
01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 1: are gonna be prideful. But I don't know. I mean,

1636
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:22,920
Speaker 1: he's had some moments, but he's also you catch them

1637
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:24,800
Speaker 1: on the wrong day, you can have some moments. The

1638
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 1: Titans actually showing out. The forty nine ers are playing

1639
01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 1: me and you on defense. They didn't chose to fight.

1640
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons was I mean, Kittle was probably the best

1641
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:34,720
Speaker 1: player on the field. But he was right up there.

1642
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:37,719
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's a monster. And the Chiefs offensive

1643
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:39,760
Speaker 1: lines and a little bit of a shambles. I could

1644
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:41,920
Speaker 1: see this thing getting weird, you know now. I could

1645
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 1: also see if the Chiefs weren't scoring that many points

1646
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 1: with Patrick, so.

1647
01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:48,519
Speaker 2: The chief broken. I mean, their receivers aren't getting open.

1648
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 2: Their offensive line is all these injuries, they can't block anyone.

1649
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 2: They have no run game. And yeah, I mean I

1650
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 2: played some Titans plus three and a half. I don't

1651
01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:00,560
Speaker 2: wouldn't blame anyone playing some money line. A lot of

1652
01:26:00,640 --> 01:26:03,720
Speaker 2: variance in this game. The other thing is like, did

1653
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:04,680
Speaker 2: the Chiefs really want to.

1654
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 1: Win this game?

1655
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 2: And what I mean by that is like they don't. Yeah,

1656
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 2: they're pros. They're gonna go out and try. But read,

1657
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 2: you're not gonna break out the good playbook for this one.

1658
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 2: You're not gonna show anything any tendencies, any new creative plays, right,

1659
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:23,439
Speaker 2: this is gonna be very vanilla. And then anyone who's

1660
01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:27,439
Speaker 2: banged up, there's no reason to rush anyone back, right,

1661
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 2: you're gonna sit. I mean, Chris Jones been dealing an injury.

1662
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 2: I can see him seating McDuffie. I mean their offensive line.

1663
01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 2: You have Rashie Rice is probably not gonna play. This

1664
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 2: could be a complete shellion. Now the Titans have a

1665
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 2: ton of injuries, do it safety and offensive line, But

1666
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 2: this is it's very hard to quantify the Chiefs mental state.

1667
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:51,200
Speaker 2: This is a team who's Mahomes has never played a

1668
01:26:51,240 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 2: snap and he still won't, which is crazy. Momees is never.

1669
01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:57,160
Speaker 1: I know that.

1670
01:26:57,479 --> 01:26:58,800
Speaker 2: I don't think Brady ever had.

1671
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:01,599
Speaker 1: Are he not a playoff quarterback?

1672
01:27:02,120 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 2: What's that as?

1673
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:04,120
Speaker 1: Not a playoff quarterback?

1674
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:07,080
Speaker 2: Or he never took a snap in his career when

1675
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 2: he was eliminated from the playoffs, which is insane because

1676
01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:15,200
Speaker 2: he played for fifty years. So but like this Chiefs

1677
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 2: team is in the super Bowl conversation, in the playoffs

1678
01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:19,519
Speaker 2: every year they've been in the AC Championship game, what's

1679
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:24,240
Speaker 2: six years in a row. Now they're eliminated in the

1680
01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:26,680
Speaker 2: regular season and then going to play the Titans on

1681
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:31,920
Speaker 2: the road in December? Like, could I see them just

1682
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:39,519
Speaker 2: sleeping and being completely flat? Yeah, it's just like human emotions.

1683
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:42,559
Speaker 1: So yeah, I also don't think it's crazy. If you're

1684
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 1: Veach and Andy, you just call Clark in, you go Listen,

1685
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:47,360
Speaker 1: we've been drafting thirty one and thirty two and a

1686
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:50,280
Speaker 1: lot of severworthies. Like we lose these last three all

1687
01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 1: of a sudden, we're drafting thirteen. We could trade up

1688
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 1: from thirteen to like six to get one of those

1689
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:58,600
Speaker 1: pass rushers, Like we could change this thing quick. Yes, right,

1690
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:01,880
Speaker 1: And I don't know think they would have to. They

1691
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 1: are way better off at this point in time, Like

1692
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:06,200
Speaker 1: you have the run that we're not gonna see five

1693
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:08,840
Speaker 1: super Bowls in six years, I don't think forever again,

1694
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 1: not in this with the way financially, they are much

1695
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 1: better off losing out, Yes.

1696
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:15,559
Speaker 2: By far. Yeah, I mean you finish finished sixth. They

1697
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 2: play the Raiders, I think, yeah, they do play at

1698
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 2: the Raiders.

1699
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:21,080
Speaker 1: That'll be well, what if you ruin them from getting

1700
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:22,840
Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza, that's what.

1701
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:28,200
Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, you could impact uh the draft many ways.

1702
01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:30,960
Speaker 2: Oh Chiefs for a that'll be a dandy Week eight team.

1703
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:33,760
Speaker 2: So yeah, I do think that the Chiefs are now.

1704
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:36,320
Speaker 2: The guys on the field, they're gonna they're gonna try it.

1705
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 2: But there's other things you can do. The play calling.

1706
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 2: A bunch of guys who are just dinged up, don't

1707
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 2: play so yeah, I think that the Titans are worth

1708
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:44,680
Speaker 2: a beat.

1709
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:47,160
Speaker 1: Okay, two more games before we get to the Monday

1710
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 1: night game. Uh, Chargers of the Cowboys. Not quite sure

1711
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 1: what to make of Dallas. They've come back to earth

1712
01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:55,120
Speaker 1: a little bit. I mean the Chargers just the all

1713
01:28:55,240 --> 01:29:00,040
Speaker 1: time Jim Harbot team, just grit, guile, toughness, physicality. I

1714
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 1: mean their quarterback broken hand, flying around, running stiff, arming

1715
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:07,000
Speaker 1: people with his left hand. And the opposite of GrITT

1716
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:10,720
Speaker 1: and guile would be Tampa Carolina. Uh, the Saints. You

1717
01:29:10,800 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 1: and I have known them for a couple of weeks.

1718
01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:15,040
Speaker 1: I mean they're they're feisty. I don't even know what

1719
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:17,680
Speaker 1: to make I mean, I guess I would take Carolina. Uh,

1720
01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:20,600
Speaker 1: you know Todd Bowles all time press conference just I

1721
01:29:20,720 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 1: mean dropping f bomb. The guy's quiet as a mouse

1722
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 1: and he comes off. I mean I didn't count him.

1723
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 1: My guests would be over under would have been like ten. Uh.

1724
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:32,760
Speaker 1: So I would probably lean Chargers plus two and a

1725
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:36,120
Speaker 1: half here. Uh, it does feel like Dallas at any moment.

1726
01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 1: I mean their offense hasn't been as good the last

1727
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:39,840
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. I don't Pickens kind of gone.

1728
01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:41,799
Speaker 2: Into yeahs disappeared now.

1729
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:43,160
Speaker 1: In a post the Lions game.

1730
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, the thing don't no worthy thing about Dallas, Like

1731
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:53,640
Speaker 2: I still don't trust the Chargers offense at all. Like

1732
01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:55,320
Speaker 2: last week they had one drive at the end of

1733
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:57,200
Speaker 2: the first half when the Chiefs really kind of in

1734
01:29:57,320 --> 01:29:59,800
Speaker 2: prevent where and you got to get Perber credit it

1735
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:01,880
Speaker 2: long throws. That was the only touchdown they scored. Last

1736
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 2: week against the Eagles, they got what five turnovers and

1737
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:08,360
Speaker 2: they barely cracked twenty. I mean because of their offensive line.

1738
01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:12,200
Speaker 2: There there's a ceiling that this offense can get to

1739
01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:15,679
Speaker 2: every week, and Dallas obviously is a much higher ceiling

1740
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:20,320
Speaker 2: at home. Now, Quinn, they if.

1741
01:30:20,240 --> 01:30:22,720
Speaker 1: They win a playoff game, I mean they might end

1742
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:25,600
Speaker 1: up matched up against the Steelers or the Ravens that

1743
01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:27,200
Speaker 1: that's a remarkable accomplishment.

1744
01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:30,800
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean next next year is the team

1745
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:34,320
Speaker 2: the year for the Chargers. I think to take like

1746
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:36,800
Speaker 2: that next step, like another year of Harball building the roster,

1747
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:40,639
Speaker 2: and then you're gonna have your all your Pro Bowl tackles,

1748
01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:43,280
Speaker 2: which is kind of important, and then they I think,

1749
01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:47,320
Speaker 2: get like a center and then like all the pieces

1750
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:50,639
Speaker 2: are starting to come into place. This year, it's gonna

1751
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 2: be really like I made the path for when for

1752
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:58,240
Speaker 2: them getting to winning the division, like they gotta win

1753
01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:03,880
Speaker 2: out Broncos lose this week and then winning out with

1754
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:06,960
Speaker 2: me and beating the Broncos. I think that's important for

1755
01:31:07,080 --> 01:31:09,040
Speaker 2: them because I just it's hard for me to see

1756
01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:12,720
Speaker 2: them going on the road in the playoffs with that

1757
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 2: offensive line and winning like so, going to New England

1758
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:24,320
Speaker 2: or going to Baltimore. It's just tough that offensive line.

1759
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:27,200
Speaker 2: And next year look out for the Chargers. They just

1760
01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:29,360
Speaker 2: I mean, the offensive line injuries are just are devastating.

1761
01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 2: The interesting part about that game is the Eagles play

1762
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:37,599
Speaker 2: the Commanders on Saturday. If the Eagles win, the Cowboys

1763
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 2: are eliminated. Now the Cowboys are not officially eliminated. They

1764
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:43,599
Speaker 2: still have a chance, but they got to win out

1765
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:47,000
Speaker 2: and the Eagles kind of lose out and the Eagles

1766
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:49,960
Speaker 2: do to go to the Bills next week and then

1767
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:53,559
Speaker 2: they play the Commanders again. So if the Eagles lose,

1768
01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:59,080
Speaker 2: you know, maybe it's there's some inject some life into Dallas.

1769
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:03,280
Speaker 2: But if they win in Dallas is eliminated, the line

1770
01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:03,920
Speaker 2: might come.

1771
01:32:05,240 --> 01:32:05,400
Speaker 1: Down.

1772
01:32:05,439 --> 01:32:10,720
Speaker 2: I've seen the market do this and I still think

1773
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:12,599
Speaker 2: it's at home and gets the Chargers. I'll still try,

1774
01:32:12,640 --> 01:32:17,040
Speaker 2: but it's just an interesting nugget there on Dallas. And

1775
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:21,000
Speaker 2: in terms of Carolina and Tampa, important game. I mean,

1776
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:24,439
Speaker 2: these two teams play each other twice because so Tampa

1777
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:27,519
Speaker 2: blew the lead against Atlanta, which means which meant that

1778
01:32:27,880 --> 01:32:29,639
Speaker 2: Carolina all they had to do was beat New Orleans

1779
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:32,360
Speaker 2: and they would have the tiebreaker if they just split.

1780
01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:36,760
Speaker 2: Now the tie breaker goes back to Tampa if these

1781
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:40,719
Speaker 2: teams split. So it was an important weekend of the division.

1782
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:45,200
Speaker 2: That Baker Mayfield has been horrible for two months. I mean,

1783
01:32:45,880 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 2: you look back since week eight, he's that has the

1784
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:52,880
Speaker 2: second worst completion percentage over expectation.

1785
01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:55,439
Speaker 1: I hear, I hear the baby in the background.

1786
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, the first time, first time Shador centers and the

1787
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 2: only quarterback the lower completion was in the driver expectation.

1788
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:06,280
Speaker 2: Since week seven. They went from the second most explosive

1789
01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:10,120
Speaker 2: offense to the least from weeks one through seven to

1790
01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:13,720
Speaker 2: weeks eight through last week. But that was when they

1791
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:15,920
Speaker 2: were without Mike Evans. They finally had some explosiones in

1792
01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:18,400
Speaker 2: the offense last week. Maybe he unlocks some things. They've

1793
01:33:18,400 --> 01:33:20,439
Speaker 2: also had a ton of injuries. Baker I think was

1794
01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:23,200
Speaker 2: dealing with some injuries. He might still be, so they're

1795
01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:27,240
Speaker 2: kind of hard to rate. Had three, I would lean Panthers.

1796
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:29,880
Speaker 2: I mean, Panthers are a different team at home. You

1797
01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:33,240
Speaker 2: can't trust him as a favorite, but they do have

1798
01:33:33,360 --> 01:33:36,439
Speaker 2: the most outright wins as an underdog through fourteen weeks

1799
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:40,680
Speaker 2: seven since the nineteen ninety two Colts. So if this

1800
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:45,320
Speaker 2: team at home has dogs, they tend to perform their best.

1801
01:33:45,479 --> 01:33:48,400
Speaker 2: But I think, like we were probably at the bottom

1802
01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:50,080
Speaker 2: of the market on the Bucks, like they haven't covered

1803
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:52,679
Speaker 2: in six straight. Their offense has been a mess. They're

1804
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:55,280
Speaker 2: starting to get healthier, Like there's probably gonna be like

1805
01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:59,800
Speaker 2: a Bucks offensive explosion game and the Panthers don't get

1806
01:33:59,800 --> 01:34:02,720
Speaker 2: any pressure. So maybe this is it. But at three,

1807
01:34:02,840 --> 01:34:04,240
Speaker 2: I could only look at the Panthers.

1808
01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:06,240
Speaker 1: You know what game I forgot to ask you about

1809
01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:08,639
Speaker 1: was maybe it's Saturday night and we were talking college

1810
01:34:08,640 --> 01:34:10,639
Speaker 1: football playoffs, you kind of out of side, out of mind.

1811
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:14,640
Speaker 1: But this is kind of a big game Packers and

1812
01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:18,800
Speaker 1: going to Chicago. Obviously, you know, shitty week. I mean,

1813
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:23,680
Speaker 1: I haven't seen the latest on Christian Watson, but you know,

1814
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:26,439
Speaker 1: the Parsons injury is just it's pretty devastating. I mean,

1815
01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:29,479
Speaker 1: there's just no way around it. He was pretty damn

1816
01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:32,680
Speaker 1: good for them and really took their defense to another level. Now,

1817
01:34:33,439 --> 01:34:35,360
Speaker 1: I still think they're pretty solid on defense. You know,

1818
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:38,080
Speaker 1: they have a good defensive coach. They're definitely this is

1819
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:40,639
Speaker 1: probably a classic spot where you're gonna get some serious

1820
01:34:40,680 --> 01:34:43,960
Speaker 1: motivation going to Chicago, a team that these players are

1821
01:34:44,040 --> 01:34:46,880
Speaker 1: used to beating before Mike ever got there. That they

1822
01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:50,600
Speaker 1: still have good offensive pieces. I mean, Josh Jacobs is fantastic.

1823
01:34:50,720 --> 01:34:54,040
Speaker 1: He's you talk about a signing that not many people

1824
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:56,360
Speaker 1: talk about, maybe like outside of Green Bay's like that's

1825
01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:58,559
Speaker 1: one of the better just random signings over the last

1826
01:34:58,600 --> 01:35:01,080
Speaker 1: couple of years. I mean, it's been awesome for them.

1827
01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:05,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I think everyone's gonna pick

1828
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:07,080
Speaker 1: the Bears, and I don't blame them. I mean, they've

1829
01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:10,120
Speaker 1: last week was impressive. I get they were playing the Browns,

1830
01:35:10,160 --> 01:35:11,800
Speaker 1: but they showed up like a playoff team ready to

1831
01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:14,880
Speaker 1: kick the shit out of them. And Kalb's played well.

1832
01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:18,519
Speaker 1: Obviously their coach is a stud. I do kind of

1833
01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:20,080
Speaker 1: want to feel like I'm gonna go counter because I

1834
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:21,800
Speaker 1: feel like everyone's all the Packers are done and I

1835
01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:25,000
Speaker 1: kind of said that too, but it would not stun

1836
01:35:25,160 --> 01:35:28,400
Speaker 1: me at all if this bad boy's close coming down

1837
01:35:28,439 --> 01:35:31,240
Speaker 1: the stretch. And you know, I mean, the Packers players

1838
01:35:31,280 --> 01:35:32,960
Speaker 1: have been in a lot more of these games over

1839
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:35,240
Speaker 1: the course of the last couple of years than the Bears.

1840
01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:37,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not just writing off the Packers in

1841
01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:39,880
Speaker 1: this spot. I actually think they're probably a little undervalued,

1842
01:35:40,479 --> 01:35:44,000
Speaker 1: you know, just given that the overreaction, which is fair

1843
01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:47,080
Speaker 1: from the Parsons devastating injury.

1844
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:49,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a shame. I mean, the Packers my Super

1845
01:35:49,400 --> 01:35:52,799
Speaker 2: Bowl quick before the year. They're my only Super Bowl future.

1846
01:35:53,240 --> 01:35:56,800
Speaker 2: And then you lose Craft and you lose your you know,

1847
01:35:56,960 --> 01:36:00,559
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl offensive lineman Elkton Jenkins at center Zach Tom

1848
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:02,320
Speaker 2: goes down last week. I don't think he's gonna play.

1849
01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:03,960
Speaker 2: He's one of the better right tackles in the league.

1850
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:09,639
Speaker 2: And then he lose Parsons, who I mean against Denver

1851
01:36:09,720 --> 01:36:12,479
Speaker 2: he was probably held eleven times. That was uncalled. I mean,

1852
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:16,200
Speaker 2: he was unblockable. What is the impact of losing him,

1853
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:19,479
Speaker 2: It's hard to quantify. With the three bag the trickle

1854
01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:21,760
Speaker 2: down EF fact has to be huge, because like the

1855
01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:26,360
Speaker 2: attention that he gets it benefits everyone else, not without him.

1856
01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:29,840
Speaker 2: Everyone becomes easier to block. A guy like Lucas fan

1857
01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:32,559
Speaker 2: Nets He's gonna have to elevate his game the rest

1858
01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:36,720
Speaker 2: of the year. He's been a disappointment so far. Their

1859
01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:39,559
Speaker 2: defense is still gonna be solid, but just Parsons took

1860
01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:41,200
Speaker 2: them to the next level. Like that was what they

1861
01:36:41,240 --> 01:36:44,200
Speaker 2: were missing. They were missing a guy that could just

1862
01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:46,559
Speaker 2: win and get pressure on his own, and then they

1863
01:36:46,640 --> 01:36:50,160
Speaker 2: got Parsons and that just took their d to him

1864
01:36:50,160 --> 01:36:52,479
Speaker 2: and lead levels and then you know, they started to

1865
01:36:52,479 --> 01:36:54,280
Speaker 2: figure out the offense without Craft, it does look like

1866
01:36:54,320 --> 01:36:56,479
Speaker 2: Watson's gonna play. I don't think Tom's gonna play. Jacobs

1867
01:36:56,520 --> 01:36:59,439
Speaker 2: didn't practice again today. Evan Williams also got hurt. I mean,

1868
01:36:59,439 --> 01:37:01,439
Speaker 2: they lost like five started last week. Their safety was

1869
01:37:01,479 --> 01:37:05,400
Speaker 2: really good. He's probably not gonna play the Bears. They

1870
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:09,800
Speaker 2: might be without a doonsday and burden, so there's a

1871
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:12,120
Speaker 2: lot of injuries to monitor on a short week. I

1872
01:37:12,200 --> 01:37:14,519
Speaker 2: do think this is like a coin flippish game. I

1873
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:19,280
Speaker 2: there's a lot of injuries to which scares me, but

1874
01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:23,839
Speaker 2: I actually like the over There's no Parsons, there's no Williams.

1875
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:26,720
Speaker 2: The Bears defense continues to just get they get they're

1876
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:28,600
Speaker 2: just getting tons of turnovers. They still will give up

1877
01:37:28,680 --> 01:37:33,880
Speaker 2: chunks of yards. I'm just gonna trust both offensive mines

1878
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:38,240
Speaker 2: and Lafleur and Johnson against defenses they just saw. I mean,

1879
01:37:38,320 --> 01:37:40,920
Speaker 2: these two teams just played each other. The Bears really

1880
01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:42,720
Speaker 2: started to move it in the second half of that game.

1881
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:47,240
Speaker 2: They almost came all the way back. So I'm gonna trust.

1882
01:37:47,479 --> 01:37:49,320
Speaker 2: And then just the loss of Parsons is gonna make

1883
01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:52,439
Speaker 2: everything so much easier for Caleb. So I know there's

1884
01:37:52,520 --> 01:37:55,720
Speaker 2: offensive injuries to monitor, but I kind of like that

1885
01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:58,439
Speaker 2: over just trusting both coaches going up against defenses they

1886
01:37:58,560 --> 01:38:02,439
Speaker 2: just saw and making adjustments. So but yeah, should be

1887
01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:04,080
Speaker 2: a good one. I think it's a point foot fish game.

1888
01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:08,920
Speaker 1: Okay, Monday night football, Philip Rivers. I mean, it was

1889
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:10,600
Speaker 1: just it was fun to watch, even though if it

1890
01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:13,120
Speaker 1: wasn't the prettiest thing you're ever gonna see. You know,

1891
01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:16,080
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, you know they avoided disaster with

1892
01:38:16,160 --> 01:38:18,679
Speaker 1: Pearsall having a major knee injury. I mean, they don't

1893
01:38:18,720 --> 01:38:20,960
Speaker 1: have to give we're recording this before the injury report

1894
01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:23,280
Speaker 1: comes out because they're playing on Monday night football. But

1895
01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:25,840
Speaker 1: like when he was on the field with Jennings, with Kittle,

1896
01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:27,840
Speaker 1: who looks as good as ever looked with mcaff their

1897
01:38:27,880 --> 01:38:29,880
Speaker 1: offense look fantastic. I get they're playing the Titans, but

1898
01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:32,120
Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks, they're just gonna be

1899
01:38:32,120 --> 01:38:34,720
Speaker 1: able to score on anybody. And I'm gonna take the

1900
01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:37,400
Speaker 1: Niners in this game simply because, like I think their

1901
01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:40,760
Speaker 1: capability to get into the mid to high twenties, like

1902
01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:44,360
Speaker 1: how how is and listen to the Niners defense, I

1903
01:38:44,439 --> 01:38:47,160
Speaker 1: mean they were giving up play Jeffery Simmons catching touchsounds

1904
01:38:47,160 --> 01:38:50,880
Speaker 1: on him that you know, if you're playing like that's

1905
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:52,600
Speaker 1: in a week playing the Bears is going to be

1906
01:38:52,600 --> 01:38:56,120
Speaker 1: a difficult assignment that for that unit. But I just

1907
01:38:56,200 --> 01:38:58,040
Speaker 1: it's Philip Rivers is gonna be able to score twenty

1908
01:38:58,160 --> 01:38:59,680
Speaker 1: points on you. So if the Niners can get to

1909
01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:02,360
Speaker 1: like twenty twenty six to thirty, how can they get

1910
01:39:02,439 --> 01:39:06,000
Speaker 1: to the twenties. So Jonathan Taylor, I guess could go

1911
01:39:06,120 --> 01:39:09,120
Speaker 1: for two hundred yards, But you know, I I if

1912
01:39:09,200 --> 01:39:11,680
Speaker 1: I one thing every time I looked up, and you know,

1913
01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:14,280
Speaker 1: kind of a weird spot for Seattle playing this forty

1914
01:39:14,280 --> 01:39:16,720
Speaker 1: four year old guy with a huge game coming up.

1915
01:39:17,560 --> 01:39:19,720
Speaker 1: But they you look up and their safeties would be

1916
01:39:19,840 --> 01:39:22,160
Speaker 1: way back. If I'm Robert Sala, there is not a

1917
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:26,599
Speaker 1: defender within you know, it's farther back than like eight

1918
01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:30,559
Speaker 1: yards of the line of scrimmage. Safeties, linebackers, corners, everyone

1919
01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:32,880
Speaker 1: is up near. Like okay, Philip, you can throw out

1920
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:35,360
Speaker 1: routes and wheel routes to the cowsco and you guys

1921
01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:37,720
Speaker 1: try to run it. We are all our safeties are

1922
01:39:37,760 --> 01:39:40,320
Speaker 1: not back deep. If you beat us, it's like, you know,

1923
01:39:40,439 --> 01:39:42,600
Speaker 1: tipping your hat to some random guy hitting threes on

1924
01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:45,640
Speaker 1: you like god speed, Like good job, buddy. But I

1925
01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 1: would imagine Robert Sala just from a schematic standpoint, like, well,

1926
01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:52,280
Speaker 1: we're not worried about you throwing over the top of us,

1927
01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:53,840
Speaker 1: but we're not gonna let you run it, and we're

1928
01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:55,519
Speaker 1: not gonna let you dink and dunk us to get

1929
01:39:55,640 --> 01:39:57,840
Speaker 1: to death, because he was doing that early in that game.

1930
01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:03,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, Seattle, they played. They generally played as many light

1931
01:40:03,640 --> 01:40:06,559
Speaker 2: boxes as any defense in the league, partly about design,

1932
01:40:06,640 --> 01:40:12,080
Speaker 2: but that they do encourage that, and so yeah, I'm

1933
01:40:12,120 --> 01:40:15,599
Speaker 2: curiously with San Francisco does I played the Colts sadly?

1934
01:40:16,360 --> 01:40:18,680
Speaker 2: Here here are a couple of reasons. I think the

1935
01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:20,920
Speaker 2: lines is a little too high. I mean, the forty

1936
01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 2: have been good. I got I mean Shannon, I think

1937
01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:23,720
Speaker 2: should be in the running for Coach of the Year.

1938
01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:28,519
Speaker 2: But I mean the last I mean who they played

1939
01:40:28,520 --> 01:40:31,720
Speaker 2: the last few weeks. They played the Browns, the Titans,

1940
01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:34,400
Speaker 2: the car I mean teams with just ravaged by injuries

1941
01:40:34,439 --> 01:40:42,400
Speaker 2: to the Cardinals, and like this defense because of the

1942
01:40:42,439 --> 01:40:44,799
Speaker 2: injuries is still really bad. Now they've played some bad teams,

1943
01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:47,200
Speaker 2: but they can't stop the run. Since Week six or

1944
01:40:47,280 --> 01:40:50,080
Speaker 2: thirty first in rush success rate. I mean, you let

1945
01:40:50,120 --> 01:40:52,000
Speaker 2: the Titans run all over and the Browns were running

1946
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:54,599
Speaker 2: on them. The Browns are moving, the had a ninety

1947
01:40:54,640 --> 01:40:56,600
Speaker 2: yard touch on Driver. They're just handing it off. So

1948
01:40:56,720 --> 01:40:59,200
Speaker 2: I do think that Taylor can have a big game here.

1949
01:41:00,240 --> 01:41:01,920
Speaker 2: What are you gonna get from Rivers, that's the question.

1950
01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:05,120
Speaker 2: I'm projecting that it's gonna be better now your point

1951
01:41:05,120 --> 01:41:07,040
Speaker 2: about solid just loading the box, That's what I would do.

1952
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:13,000
Speaker 2: But Rivers, it's really it's a unique situation. So it's

1953
01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:15,920
Speaker 2: hard to put a number on this. But number one,

1954
01:41:15,960 --> 01:41:18,519
Speaker 2: he can't move around. But the poorty nine ers don't

1955
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:21,120
Speaker 2: get any pressure right, the Seahawks get pressure in a

1956
01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:24,240
Speaker 2: lead level. He was also on the road after not

1957
01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:26,479
Speaker 2: playing for five years against one of the best defenses

1958
01:41:26,479 --> 01:41:30,040
Speaker 2: in the NFL. Like, now he's got a game under

1959
01:41:30,080 --> 01:41:33,599
Speaker 2: his belt, he's gonna be playing at home against the defense.

1960
01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:35,760
Speaker 2: I can't get pressure and can't defend the run, so

1961
01:41:36,160 --> 01:41:39,760
Speaker 2: I gotta imagine it's gonna look a little better. But

1962
01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:41,519
Speaker 2: the counter to that is you should just load the box,

1963
01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:44,000
Speaker 2: take away Warren, make him throw it down the field.

1964
01:41:44,200 --> 01:41:45,640
Speaker 2: I'm very curious what they do from the episode, but

1965
01:41:45,680 --> 01:41:48,960
Speaker 2: I do think Taylor gonna have a big day, and

1966
01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:51,759
Speaker 2: so I just think it's a bit too many points.

1967
01:41:51,760 --> 01:41:53,400
Speaker 2: So I did think the Colts, but it could just

1968
01:41:53,479 --> 01:41:57,160
Speaker 2: end up being a complete disaster. But it'll be fascinating

1969
01:41:57,160 --> 01:41:58,400
Speaker 2: to watch. I'm glad it's on Monday night.

1970
01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:01,160
Speaker 1: Many diapers you changed so far?

1971
01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:05,360
Speaker 2: Zero but I tried. I changed one, but like my

1972
01:42:05,439 --> 01:42:07,400
Speaker 2: wife was like, you're like, I was like messing it out.

1973
01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:09,479
Speaker 2: I'm also a bad like swaddler when you have to

1974
01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:11,679
Speaker 2: like wrap them in, I don't do that tight enough,

1975
01:42:12,320 --> 01:42:19,280
Speaker 2: so I'm pretty useless. But yeah, uh, hopefully I'll figure

1976
01:42:19,360 --> 01:42:20,160
Speaker 2: some of that stuff out.

1977
01:42:20,600 --> 01:42:23,360
Speaker 1: Well. Well, good luck and enjoy the games this week

1978
01:42:23,400 --> 01:42:25,240
Speaker 1: and I will I will talk to you soon and

1979
01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:28,320
Speaker 1: again congratulations Bro, massive massive moment in your life.

1980
01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:31,920
Speaker 2: Yeah you soon, You soon too, brother. Have a good weekend, guys,

1981
01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:34,559
Speaker 2: enjoy the games. Football is about to get good.

1982
01:42:34,800 --> 01:42:43,479
Speaker 1: Have a good night, Audios. The volume m