1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: with i R Radio. It's the almost famous podcast. We 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: are back breaking down another episode of the Bachelor. Ashley 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: is here as well. Uh. Ashley kicked this thing off 5 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: last night. I was at the Ohio University. I was 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: gonna say the University of how that would be wrong. 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: It's Ohio University, the home of the Bobcats. An incredible campus, 8 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: beautiful place. If you haven't been there in Athens, Ohio, 9 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: it is worth the visit. Had a great time. UM 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: their their student association, UH put on an event and 11 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: we had a great turnout, a lot of fun. I 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: really enjoyed it. So I flew out early this morning 13 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: back to Denver. I'm in Denver recording this. Last night, 14 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: I was asked the question that I want to kick 15 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: this podcast off, asking you, Ashley, who are your top 16 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: three favorites on this season? To end up with Zach 17 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: Okay Cat from last night? Easy? For sure, for sure. 18 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 1: I think probably Katie's up there. I don't know Brooklyn 19 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: is up there too. Brooklyn and Cat would be my 20 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: top two right now. Okay, yeah, okay, let's go with 21 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: that for right now. But I really think that there's 22 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: a lot of girls that came to the forefront of 23 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: my mind yesterday. I like Gabby for myself. I feel 24 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: like gabb would be a good friend for me. She 25 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: just seems like very authentic about how awkward she is. 26 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: She's like not afraid to be like, oh my gosh, 27 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: I feel very uncomfortable in this environment, like does he 28 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: like me? Does he not like me? Like she's just 29 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: And what's cool about her is that she has a 30 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: lot of um, I don't even call it awkwardness, but 31 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: she thinks she's awkward, and then when she's actually with him, 32 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: she's really cool. And I love that we're getting those 33 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: moments for her, and he, I think finds that endearing. Yeah, 34 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,639 Speaker 1: he does. You're seeing a trend, was zach Uh. He's 35 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: he's into it when there's like a mutual interest, even 36 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,279 Speaker 1: if you're awkward and you're weird with it, not into 37 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: it if there's drama or if you voice that you 38 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: feel like the connection is waning, you know, But if 39 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: you're into it at all, even if you're so weird 40 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: and so awkward, He's like, Hey, I like this, We'll 41 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: stick it around. UM. Good question last night from the auditio, 42 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: A couple of great questions, a lot of fans of you, Ashley. 43 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: As always, I feel like I go to these things 44 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: and I'm like your spokesperson, Like I'm like the one, 45 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: like you're kind of your security guard. I'm the one 46 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: that goes and before you, and they want to talk 47 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 1: about you and be like what's actually like, what's she 48 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: what's she doing? And then I get to answer those 49 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: questions for you, um the best I can. But um, 50 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: it's a lot of fun. I'm glad to be back, 51 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: though I'm tired, um tired today it was an early morning. Um. 52 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: But we're gonna make this work, Ashley. Obviously, it's been 53 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: a week since our last episode. Bachelor Nation has had 54 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 1: a lot of headlines that we're gonna break down later 55 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: on as well. But let's jump in to this week's episode. 56 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: Kick it riot off and I'll let you take it. Okay, 57 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: sounds good. Let's start, of course, at the very beginning, 58 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: when they decide that they don't they don't decide. They've 59 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: been told that they are going to the Bahamas in 60 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: the most classic way. You know, it's like Zach's not 61 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: here because he's in the Bahamas. The Bamas on your 62 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: on your season. I feel like the Bahamas is always 63 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: like that. It's like every other year they're going to 64 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: the Bahamas. I guess that you really can't go wrong 65 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: with it, though, right, No, I mean I think it's Uh, 66 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: there's a couple of places obviously internationally that you would 67 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: have loved to go to write Like for me, I 68 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: really want to go to Japan. On my season, we 69 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: didn't go to Japan. That would have been incredible, right, 70 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: just to be in Japan, And um, there's a couple, 71 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: but like the Bahamas a little like secret the Bahamas 72 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: are like the best place for the show to go 73 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: when you're on the season or you're the lead because 74 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: it's well because people would be like, it's the Bahamas, right, 75 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: Maybe it's not as exotic as you would want, but yeah, 76 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: like a lot of us end up going there to 77 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: visit at some point, like we're looking for a tropical vacation. 78 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: But it's close and that's such a big deal because 79 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: you're not going like multiple time zones, which becomes really 80 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: hard when you're filming the show. You are going multiple 81 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,799 Speaker 1: time zones. But it's like an East coast West coast thing. Sure, 82 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: but you're Yeah, I guess you're in l A during this, 83 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: But if you're on the East coast, you're not. You know, 84 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: Bahamas are just a very accessible, beautiful, warm, tropical location 85 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 1: that has a lot going on, a lot of fun. 86 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: And I think you know, when you start to travel 87 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: too far away from the US, it gets really tiring 88 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: because there aren't like many days to sleep and get 89 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: your jet lag, you know, taking care of you kind 90 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: of just hit the ground running and you're tired for 91 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: the whole week. And so when you don't have to 92 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: travel that far, it's actually even better. Uh. And so 93 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: the Bahamas are a great location. I always uh interested 94 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: to see what kind of dates they come with up 95 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: within the Bahamas because they've been there so many times. Yeah, 96 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: the pig date was legit um, even though it ended 97 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 1: with everybody you know, having diarrhea and getting dysentery. If 98 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 1: you haven't heard that story, it's because everybody swallowed the 99 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: water and there's pig poop in it. Um. It's so gross. Uh. 100 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 1: But so I guess they're never going to do that again. No, 101 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: but it is. I mean, if you go to Pig Island, 102 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: it is worth it. It's an amazing time. I think 103 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: it's just don't swallow the water and just keep your 104 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: mouth close. Um. But yeah, we went to the Bahamas, 105 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: the interesting little tid. But when we went, which I 106 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: don't think they had happened this year, at least not 107 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: super close. Right before we got there, um, they had 108 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: a big tropical storm wipe through the Bahamas and so 109 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: it shut down, um the food supply to the island, 110 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: and so we didn't. We kind of had like firefest 111 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: on the island the whole time where we're eating like 112 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: ham and cheese sandwiches because that's all we could get 113 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: our hands on. Uh. So that was kind of added. 114 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: It was interesting. But it really that that Bahamas trip 115 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: was beautiful. It just humbled all of us, which I 116 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: appreciate it. It made us feel very much like what 117 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: life would look like if you want on a vacation 118 00:05:55,400 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: with me. It's so funny. Okay, Well, the first eight 119 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: card goes to cats, question is how deep is our love? 120 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: And they, of course just go on the water. It's 121 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: just a very it's like a basic bachelor day in 122 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: the sense that like there's not like a real activity. 123 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: They're just gonna hang out on the boat. They're gonna 124 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: they're gonna make their activity applying sunscreen to each other, 125 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: and they truly enjoy the sunscreen moment, Like the two 126 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: of them are all over each other and it feels good. Uh, 127 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: what do you mean to explain? What do you mean 128 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: when you feel it between them? For sure, they definitely 129 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: have physical chemistry and it's cute because Zach definitely feels like, 130 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, how did I get this woman? She's 131 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: a model? I have never like she She's not a model, 132 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: she's a nurse, but she looks like a model, and 133 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: she truly does. She has kind of that like gazl 134 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: buncheon look and that they're cute. I get it. I 135 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: like it. And then they go to dinner and they 136 00:06:56,120 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 1: have a very interesting I mean in true in conversation. Um, 137 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: she her insecurity. It's you know, one on one dates, 138 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: you always bring up your insecurity. You're like your story 139 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: of love that you know wouldn't normally share on a 140 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: first one on one date in the real world, but 141 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: on the batchelor, this is what we're going to get it. 142 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: And hers is that she had a really awful relationship 143 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: with her mom growing up, and it made me think 144 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: I just made me think about like being a mom, 145 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: I guess now, just imagining having such a horrible relationship 146 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: with your child and how it gets to be that 147 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: way to the point where it's like you don't even 148 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: like your kid. It's so what it sounds like, it 149 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: sounds like they did not like each other, like their 150 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: mother and daughter that didn't like each other. That's so 151 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: sad and I'm so sorry that she had to grow 152 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: up with that. But she said that she didn't even 153 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: live in the same house with her mom as a kid, 154 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: like Underage Under eight team for some points, because it 155 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: got so bad and um, it just seemed like she 156 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: didn't have any sort of relationship with the parent thing 157 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: that that was not a good relationship there, like between 158 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: the two of them. And then she said, yeah, yeah, 159 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: it takes a I you know, as you watch this 160 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: every season we have uh most of the time, I 161 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: guess most season we have a moment like this, and 162 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: I just want to take a second say, it takes 163 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: a lot of courage. I can't imagine that Cat dreamed 164 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: of telling somebody she was dating about this on national television. 165 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: It has to be hard and there has to be 166 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: a lot of emotion behind that. Um, but it was 167 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: it is courageous to do and to open up. And 168 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: you know, she even said it like she did it 169 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: because she wanted Zack to know this side of her, 170 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: because she knows that his family is more traditional and 171 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: that they have a great relationship, and she wants him 172 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: to know right away kind of why and where she's 173 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: coming from. And I just I think that, I mean, 174 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: it cannot I just can't. It can't be easy. I 175 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: can't relate with it. But it can't be easy to 176 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: open up about these things that are so personal to 177 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: you on national television on a first date. Has to 178 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 1: be just a lot of like kind of confusion too 179 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: behind the scenes of being like do I talk about 180 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: this now? Do I wait? And maybe I'll never get 181 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: the opportunity to and maybe he's kind of confused by it. 182 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: Like just, um, those are always really big moments again 183 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: where reality television crosses reality and we see it happen 184 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: in front of us. Yeah, like, I can't relate to 185 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 1: this moment either. I guess I'm on the other side. 186 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: I'm on the Zack side where it's like I grew 187 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: up with that perfect ideal role model in parents and 188 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: in their relationship, and it made me think about the 189 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: insecurity that she has talking about how she didn't have that, 190 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: and how I wonder how it is to navigate relationships 191 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: like that. I wonder how often the way that you're 192 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: brought up become the thing in the relationship. Like you, 193 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: you and Ingest both had great childhood's, great relationships with 194 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: your parents. Your parents both had great relationships with each other, 195 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: and it's kind of same with me and Jared. So 196 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: I just just made me think, like, oh, yeah, like 197 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: that that is definitely got to be I don't know, well, 198 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: what is it is? I don't know, It's just it's 199 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: just the reality for a lot of people. And what 200 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: I think she I think what we see here is 201 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: kind of that, um, just what you do in partnerships 202 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: where you look at somebody else and you say, hey, um, 203 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: you know, this is something that's happened in my life. 204 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: This is my story, and I'm asking you to come 205 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: into this story, uh and help me now fulfill the 206 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: new dreams and the new things that I want because 207 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: I've I've either seen what I don't want or I've 208 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: seen what I want, and I'm just I need you 209 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: to come along and support me in this, and that's 210 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: what she's doing, and I think Zach really wants to 211 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: do that. I think zach Is really wanted to do 212 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: that for her. Like I think Zach is just like, 213 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: I'll do whatever you ask me as long as I 214 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: can be with you. Because this is wild. I guess 215 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: that's part of the reason that I really liked to 216 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: this moment was because it just seemed like he was 217 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: ready to be that guy for her. I mean, if 218 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: you ask me right now, Okay, if I if this 219 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: was DraftKings or Fan Duel and I had um a 220 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: bet on whose act was gonna end up with at 221 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: the end, I would put all of my money on Cat, Like, well, 222 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: this at this point, it's definitely the he likes her enough, 223 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: is she gonna like him enough? And I think like 224 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 1: right now they're on a great level together. Sure it's yeah, 225 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: well we'll see where it goes. But I definitely would 226 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,080 Speaker 1: call her the front runner right now, no question, Like, 227 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: very clearly that front runner. He's just like he's giddy, 228 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: um Like, he's giddy around her, He's he's goofy around her, 229 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: and he I think he's just trying his best, just 230 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 1: to be like, this is a dream for me, This 231 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: is what I dreamed of when I signed up for 232 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: The Bachelor. It's happening, but now and then we'll have 233 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: to see this story play out. I means Zack's biggest 234 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: issue is going to be one, how much interest is 235 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: he going to be able to show other people? Which 236 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's gonna be somebody else that really intrigues 237 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: him and interests him, so that will happen. But two 238 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: is how much is he going to get in his 239 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,839 Speaker 1: own head about where Cat's feelings are at now for 240 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,719 Speaker 1: the rest of the season, Because the more time now 241 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: he spins away from her, and after a one on one, 242 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: we all know that you're gonna spend some time away 243 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: from her. He's not going to see her for a bit. 244 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: They're gonna have some separation. Is he is he gonna 245 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:23,359 Speaker 1: like is he gonna be able to stay stable, stay confident, 246 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 1: and also do the small things for her that keeps 247 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 1: her in like knowing that he's thinking of her. It's 248 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: gonna get really hard for him. It would be really 249 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: hard to fall this quickly, this early in a season 250 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 1: and know that you have a lot of time left 251 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: to keep this going. Yeah, I also am wondering how, um, 252 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: how he's if he's gonna remain open to the other 253 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: girls enough. I think he does. I think he does. 254 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: We do. We do see him have a great date 255 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: with Brooklyn, and I think he does seem really into 256 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: her as well. We see him very intrigued by Aerial 257 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 1: on the group date. And then my final my final 258 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: comment on this date is I've we've been harsh on 259 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: on Zach, who I know, we know this. What I 260 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: really like is when Zach gets in this zone where 261 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: he's like, what can I do to be with her? Like, 262 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I feel so undeserving. I think a 263 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: lot of the times it's kind of like this is 264 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: about me finding a life and not about us finding 265 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: a wife. And I feel like with him, I like 266 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: him in this humble zone. Yeah. Yeah, Well, I mean 267 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: that's a great partnership, writing partners, you know what I mean, Like, 268 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: it's more like this is for me, Well, it's of 269 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 1: course it's for him. He's the bachelor. Definitely. Well, I mean, 270 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: he needs to show his interest, but he also I 271 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be hard. Now if I was Zach, 272 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 1: I don't think I would have had one on one 273 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: this early with somebody like Cat, because I really it's 274 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: week four. I think it's gonna get hard for him. Uh, 275 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: it's gonna get hard because I think he's gonna fall 276 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: And now he has to wait a few weeks probably 277 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: till he can get that one on one time with 278 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,439 Speaker 1: her again, and he's gonna see our group dates. And 279 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: I know you just said that Zack does a good 280 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: job at kind of leaving his heart open, as we 281 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: like to say in the show. But I believe it 282 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: was Anastasia that even mentioned, uh that he definitely has 283 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: his favorites. Uh. So the girls are starting to tell, right, 284 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: like they know language is hilarious, Yeah, I actual, Yeah, 285 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: So the girls are starting to tell, which is uncommon. 286 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: It happens every season where the favorites start to stand out, 287 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: And some of the girls are even very like they 288 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: know that Kat and Zach are gonna have a great 289 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: one on one, Like they're very confident in that. So 290 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: they know that Cat is going to be a front runner. 291 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: They obviously like her. They obviously know that she's beautiful 292 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: and that she's probably kind to the women there, so 293 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: they're like, they're gonna have a great time, and Zack 294 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: has his favorite she's going to be one of them. 295 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: And now the rest of us are kind of sitting 296 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: here twiddling our thumbs figuring out where do we stand. 297 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: And that's just gonna I mean, it's gonna be an 298 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: interesting part of this season as we continue to watch 299 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: is how open is he able to stay as he 300 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: starts to fall very quickly and as his heart starts 301 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: to lean towards a few women. I don't mind that 302 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: when Elite does that, because you want them to have 303 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: their favorites, like you want them to have their few 304 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: that like they're very into. But we still have a 305 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: season the film, and so it's going to be interesting 306 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: how that plays out. Okay, so group date time they 307 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: do like basically just games with shellfish, which is basically 308 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: designed for Gabby to get down herself because she has 309 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: an allergy to shell the same here that that would 310 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: kill me, Like that date would have killed me. I 311 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: saw these funny memes that were like okay, but but 312 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: is she okay kissing him like the night after eating shellfish, 313 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: Like what is the what is the point of okay? 314 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: This is because he have to go brush his teeth 315 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: that he had to like rense out with really hot water. 316 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: There's there's multiple levels of this. But if if Jessica 317 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: has like a shrimp and kisses me like I can 318 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: sometimes feel it like it I don't like break out 319 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: in my yeah, but you can feel like that your 320 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: body is rejecting it or not like not that it 321 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: tickles or you a little high. I mean, I'm very 322 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: allergic to shell fish. Um this would have like this 323 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: would have been my worst nightmare. And even the juices 324 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: splashing on you can be a massive issue, very dangerous situation. 325 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: We put put her in Oh my gosh, she's so 326 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: funny about it because obviously she's just she's crying because 327 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: it is really upsetting. But I know that she's laughing 328 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: watching this back, and he's not going to hold it 329 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: against her. She can't participate, but in the moment it 330 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: makes you feel bad anyway. I like the fact that 331 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: this group date was kind of chill, hanging out on 332 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: the beach doing silly games like this and not like 333 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: a football structured, you know, game that we really don't 334 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: get to see much like interaction with him. We do. 335 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,479 Speaker 1: We can see him and his body language floating with 336 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: like certain girls, and we certainly can tell a lot 337 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: by Zack's body language, and he cannot stand in the 338 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 1: station an he was looking for a reason to get 339 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 1: rid of Anastasia. Yes he does, because he heard this 340 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: thing about Instagram. But you can tell when she steals 341 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: him away and they sit there on that sand together, 342 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: he does not look her in the eyes. And when 343 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: Zack's not into somebody, he literally makes us little eye 344 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: contact as possible. He's looking out to the ocean, his 345 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: arms are going to the other direction that she's in. 346 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: It's all over um, but you know he's he tries, 347 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,719 Speaker 1: you know, he's she's trying to not show it, but 348 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 1: he can't help it with his body. So I think 349 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: that when Kylie comes over. Kylie comes over and she's like, 350 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: can I steal for a second. He's probably feeling relieved, 351 00:17:54,040 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: and the two of the girls, um Anastasia and and 352 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: Kylie get into this battle of like like interpretation where 353 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: it's like, um, I don't want to fight about this, 354 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: Like I don't want to get into a fight about 355 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 1: her or something like that, right, and then it's Anastasia 356 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: goes off and in insinuating that Kylie was going to 357 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: start a physical fight over stealing time with Zach, and 358 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: then Kylie was like, no, I didn't want to get 359 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 1: like a verbal back and forth, and anyone in their 360 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: right mind would be like, yeah, this is about a 361 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: verbal back and forth, not an actual physical fight. But 362 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: that's what we got, and that just starts a little 363 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: bit more drama between Kylie and Anastesia that continues throughout 364 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 1: the rest of the episode. This is the moment that 365 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: we officially, uh deem Zach the sweatiest Bachelor of all time. 366 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: I don't know if we can't even talk about what 367 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: when we have people like Josh Murray in Paradise sweaty 368 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: I had a sweaty back. Yeah, I mean, he looks 369 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: pretty uncomfortable, not only in the situation, but just with 370 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: the amount of heat. I'm assuming he um is getting 371 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: padded down as often as possible, because I can see 372 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 1: Zach being a sweater. Um. That's why they're showing him 373 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: showers so often, I think because he needs to keep 374 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: himself clean. The Yeah, this, uh, this is just a 375 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: very uncomfortable moment. Zack is not into this stuff. He's 376 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: not He's not gonna play around with it. He's not 377 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: gonna play around with the the drama. Um one, I don't 378 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: think he. I think he's very uncomfortable within the drama, 379 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: like he can't just sit back and watch it play 380 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: out too. Um. I imagine that he has made the 381 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: commitment to himself to keep this season as drama free 382 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: as possible for as long as possible, and so he is. 383 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: They some people come up to me. I don't know 384 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: where this came from. They used to call me the 385 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 1: axe man because I was so good and so quick 386 00:19:58,640 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: at getting rid of people. I don't know if I 387 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: was or not, but I think Zach isn't that. Yeah. 388 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 1: I think he's the one that just says, now you're out, 389 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: like this isn't working. All right, We'll see you later. Um, 390 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: I think yeah, and he when I look at people's 391 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 1: comments about this season, it seems to be one of 392 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: people's favorite traits about him. Yeah, he's just yeah, nope, 393 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 1: acts you. Another awkward moment with Anastasia that I just 394 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,479 Speaker 1: want to mention was when they were playing the limbo 395 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 1: and she wanted to give him a kiss for courage 396 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: and he was like on the cheek and it's like, wow, dude, yes, 397 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: she had to see this coming. Um. Interesting point here 398 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: though we don't see it often. Something for all of 399 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: us to think about is Zak has been very quick 400 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: to tell people to go home when one they feel 401 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: distance from their relationship, in two when they're causing drama. 402 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: Most seasons UH in recent memory, the SO and so 403 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: dramas starter, some would call it the villain, whatever you 404 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: wanna call it, has been around for a long time 405 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: to keep that storyline going. And I've always said that 406 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: the reason that those people are around for a long 407 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: time is because, honestly, they're kind of hidden from the lead. 408 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: The lead doesn't know exactly what's going on or what 409 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: they're saying or what they're doing. That the show does 410 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: a really good job at protecting the lead from that 411 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: person because they are good television and the show would 412 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: like them around a while. And so if the lead 413 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: ever sees it, yeah, they just say, hey, you're done, 414 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: we're going home. But they protect that person for as 415 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 1: long as they can until it's just very obvious. This 416 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: season we're not seeing that. And one I think that 417 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: is UH has to do with Zach that I think 418 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 1: he's just saying, no, sorry, this isn't no matter how 419 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: good of entertainment this is, This isn't working for this 420 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: season to the show is allowing Zach to see all 421 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: of this happen and allowing all of this to be 422 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 1: right in front of him so he's able to make 423 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: an educated decision. And I wonder, actually, with all of 424 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: the critiques of the show, when people have said that 425 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: drama is outweighing the love stories, if this is probably 426 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 1: the start of kind of a new era in the 427 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: Bachelor world where the villains won't be the storyline and 428 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: make up the majority of episodes kind of that week 429 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: four or five and six, that six that we usually 430 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: see that if this is now going to change and 431 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: we'll see this kind of new theme where the villains 432 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: don't stick around, that the drama doesn't stick around, that 433 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: love is now back in focus. This is definitely the 434 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: show's response to that, And I think probably one of 435 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: the reasons that they chose Zach because they knew that 436 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: he would front this well. And I think we saw 437 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 1: it with Michelle, she was pretty quick to get rid 438 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 1: of problem makers, and now I think he is doing 439 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: a great job doing the same. Also wonder what would 440 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: happen if this if an issue were to come up 441 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: with one of his favorites, like with a cat, like 442 00:22:55,960 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: with the Brooklyn because we think that he's letting go girls. 443 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: If there's drama around a girl that he doesn't feel 444 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: strongly for, acts right. But I would love to see 445 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: how he would deal with if it was somebody that 446 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: he would really liked. And I guess you could argue 447 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: that last week with Christina it was somebody that he liked, 448 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: but we also saw that he was pretty uncomfortable issue 449 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: with the fact that she had a daughter stepping into 450 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: the stepdad role so immediately, So maybe there wasn't like 451 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: another little reasoning behind that. Well, we're gonna see that, right, 452 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: We'll see at the end of the season where more issues. Yeah, 453 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: not maybe drama and maybe not the same kind of 454 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: drama that you see early on in the season's happened 455 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 1: with his favorites, But you'll see issues. Right, It's gonna 456 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: come down to family dynamics, will come down to are 457 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: you ready or are you not ready? To fall in love. 458 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: It will come down to situations where maybe a cat 459 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,479 Speaker 1: I don't know, but maybe a cat comes in and says, hey, 460 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: I feel like there's distance in our relationship. I feel 461 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 1: like we had a spark and that spark is gone. 462 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: Those things are going to happen. They just always happened 463 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: on the show. That's what's made the format of the 464 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: show work for as long as it had as and 465 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: so we will see how are you responds to it. 466 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: But right now he's still kind of getting through the 467 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: people that he's not as interested in that have made 468 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: it this far. Got a nice little trip to the Bahamas, 469 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: gotten some sun, gotten to hang out, but he's not 470 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: been super sold out on the idea that they're gonna 471 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: be together. I just think it's an interesting twist. I 472 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: like this change in this show. I'm actually enjoying. This 473 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: part of the show is that love and it feels 474 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: like these love stories and getting to know these contestants, 475 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: which we've complained about for years, we haven't held played 476 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: about stupid drama like shrimp where we lose, we lose 477 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: the opportunity to get to know the contestants because whole 478 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: episodes are made up of drama and the villain and 479 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: those things like shrimp Gate that we're like, do we 480 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 1: really care that much about? It's funny for a while, 481 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 1: but it's not funny for a whole episode. I want 482 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: to see more character development, and I think right now 483 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: at week four, we're starting to see more of that 484 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,959 Speaker 1: than we ever have uh in past seasons, and so 485 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: I am anxiously excited to see continually how that plays out. 486 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 1: So the group date after party, we see a couple 487 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 1: of good connections. We see Ariel and him and he 488 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 1: says that he loves this mystery about her, and I 489 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: have to say, she is mysterious. And she came up 490 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: to him and was very concerned about how he was doing, 491 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: and I think that was nice and refreshing for him. Um, 492 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: he really is into Charity, He's into Gabby says she's 493 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: really fun to hang out with. He just seems to 494 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: be like really driving with these girls until Kylie comes up, 495 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: and it's not like he's not driving with Kylie, but 496 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: she's like, I'm just not feeling the best because I 497 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: feel so awkward for interrupting your time earlier. And I 498 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: have to say I like the it that Kylie was 499 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: so honest about how interrupting made her feel uncomfortable, because 500 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: interrupting is just the worst on the show. But she 501 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: was also after the fact, like after she got that 502 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: done and sat down with him, it made her feel 503 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: like prepped and ruddy for the night ahead. And just 504 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: from my point of view, if you had like a 505 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: good moment during the daytime portion, like you didn't have 506 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: to be like super deep or heavy or anything like that, 507 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,919 Speaker 1: but if you had a good back and for the 508 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: little flirtation during the daytime portion of the day, you 509 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: had so much more confidence going to the night. And 510 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: I was excited that Kylie got to experience that because 511 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: it was very relatable for me as somebody who's on 512 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: the show. And I feel like that's probably just like 513 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: how like life goes right. It's like, have a good 514 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: moment with somebody, don't extend it too long, and then 515 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: you look forward to seeing that person later. Sure it's 516 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: like yeah, it's like, yeah, I just love a little 517 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: like warm up, you know, a little appetizer it needs 518 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: I needed for the confidence building. Yeah, girls will feel me, 519 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: I think, well, I'm sure they will. And I think 520 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: there is um it's just always positive when you're open 521 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: and honest in any relationship. So she's saying it right. 522 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: You get wrapped up in all this dramma, You get 523 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: wrapped up on all the things happening around you. You 524 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 1: get a little frustrated. You're probably your confidences is taking 525 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: a little bit of a beating, and you say a 526 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 1: react in a way that you feel like later on, hey, 527 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: that probably wasn't helping. It might have been hurting, and 528 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: you think about it all afternoon, and if you're me, 529 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 1: you bang your head against your pillow and you're like, 530 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: why are you so stupid? But then she was able 531 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 1: to say, Okay, I'm gonna confront this, like, I'm going 532 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 1: to actually speak to like why I behaved the way 533 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: it did. I think it's a huge deal and I do. 534 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: I think it helps relationships. Yeah. The other thing that 535 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: she does though, here in this moment where she admits 536 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: that she was feeling awkward and blah blah blah, this 537 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: is when she does the call out of annas Asia. 538 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 1: She's like, also, Stasia has been saying something about her 539 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: being here for Instagram followers, and all of a sudden, 540 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: his like siren goes off. This is definitely a sensitive 541 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: point for him, and she's like, I wasn't there for 542 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: the actual hearing of the conversation. So then he pulls 543 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: over Charity who was, and she says that she heard 544 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: her say something along the lines of like everybody that's 545 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: kind of still there would get about fifty Instagram followers. 546 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 1: It's not true. Bachelor Data came out with something today, 547 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: absolutely not true, not even close. So Zach is now 548 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: obviously concerned by this and pulls Anssia aside, and she 549 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: seems like flabbergasted by it, and it makes me wonder, 550 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: it makes me see like we just try to think 551 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: about how to give her the benefit of the doubt here. Okay, 552 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: she is a social media marketer. Okay, so like that 553 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 1: is her job, and she's probably she was there probably 554 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: just asking her about her job. And then maybe one 555 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: of the girls said, okay, well, if you had to 556 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: get so many followers we would get by being here 557 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: in week four, how many do you think we get? 558 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: And then she may have just responded and like pretty 559 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: like honestly but inaccurately, and it may have been more 560 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: innocent than it comes off. But you know, people like 561 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: to be like the Instagram police on The Bachelor. Now 562 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: it's it's the new, like what was the old? What 563 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: was the old? Here for the wrong reasons, just like 564 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: to be on TV, like and now it's just to 565 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: get Instagram followers. Was there like something before become the bachelor, 566 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: become the next lead. That was always what it was 567 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: because like on my season, it was I heard that 568 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: she was talking about being the next bachelor. Oh my god, 569 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: how dare she? But everybody thinks about that while you're 570 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: there there, and we've said that before. We're like, that's 571 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: just ridiculous. It does if you're saying that it didn't 572 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: cross your mind at some point, and Instagram followers my 573 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: cross your mind at some point now as well. That 574 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: ship a little bit has sailed for just where we 575 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: are on the show, Like people just don't gain as 576 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: much as they used to. But of course it's something 577 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: that they're probably going to think of. Uh so you 578 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: totally get it. I'm babbling, but I totally get why 579 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: he's concerned. Totally get it. But also I don't think 580 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: he should or did um let her go home because 581 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: of this point alone. I think if he was really 582 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: into her, he'd probably keep her around just to see 583 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: if there was something more. I don't know, what do 584 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: you think? I just don't know if it's incriminating enough 585 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: does that simple sentence. I'm guessing we'll get about fifty 586 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: followers when you are a social media Marketer, and like 587 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: you're talking about sort of your job in a sense, 588 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: I'm also playing Devil's advocate. I just want to say, well, 589 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you'd have to take in the words of 590 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: the cast mates that were around to hear what their 591 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: sentiment was and how they think it was communicated. I 592 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,959 Speaker 1: would have a seems like charities talking about it, hearing 593 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: it for real. Okay, Well, um, she might have felt 594 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: different about it. I think you're completely right. I think 595 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: if Zach was really into Anastasia and really saw a 596 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: future with her, I don't think this would have been 597 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: a deal breaker. But I think we've seen in his 598 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: body language that he was looking for a reason to 599 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: say goodbye to Anastasia now for at least this week, 600 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: so I don't I don't think like she was going 601 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: to be around much longer anyways. Um. I would also 602 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: say that when you're in the house, you know, it's 603 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: it's not like people typically are just picking everything you 604 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: say to see if they can twist it. Like That's 605 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: not how I ever felt in the house when I 606 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: was on The Bachelorrette, I felt like we were buddies 607 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: talking about life. Now, somebody said something like I can't 608 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: wait to be done with this show because I'm gonna 609 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: be so famous, I'm gonna get paid to go to clubs, 610 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna do all this. We somebody would have 611 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: probably said, Hey, that sounds weird. It doesn't feel like 612 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: you're in this for any good reason. But I know 613 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: that in the house people talked about like situations of well, 614 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do next? And what do you 615 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: look forward to after this? And I'm sure somebody asked, like, 616 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: how many followers do you think you're gonna get from this? 617 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: Like stuff like that, and that's innocent, and people typically 618 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't twist that to make you be the bad person. 619 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:34,719 Speaker 1: Um something, Yeah, something was said here, or there's been 620 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 1: a tone, or there's been something that's made somebody say, Hey, 621 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: I feel uncomfortable about her intentions of being here, Zack. 622 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: I think we can just close this and say, Zach 623 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: obviously wasn't that interested in that relationship, and so he said, hey, 624 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: not just because of this, but probably because I'm not 625 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:53,479 Speaker 1: that interested, it's time to go home. Mm hmm yep. Alright, 626 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: let's talk about the Brooklyn date. Brooklyn need too. She's nice, 627 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: she's fun, watch She's it seems down to earth. I 628 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: just yeah, she's she's cool, she's very pretty, and like 629 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: I would love to have a beer with her and 630 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: just hear about her life, like she you know, just 631 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: her job is unique. And she's on this dating show 632 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: now in a in a world where people probably from her, 633 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: like from the Rodeo world, don't really love the Bachelor, 634 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: I'd imagine, or maybe they're not, Like I don't know, 635 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: maybe they are. I'm just making the assumption that like 636 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: maybe like Rodeo and like you know, that those people 637 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: aren't tuning into Monday Night Bachelor all the time. And 638 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: I think it's cool that she's there. So she's intriguing, 639 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: she's interesting, she is sweet, she's down to earth. I 640 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: like her. I also like her for Zach m hmm. 641 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: I'm watching Brooklyn and this as part of the last 642 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: part of this episode. I was like, this is a 643 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: pretty good group of girls left. Yeah, I think there 644 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: is a group good group of girls still here. I 645 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: mean I think he's I mean I would still, you know, 646 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: put my stake in the ground and said he's let 647 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: let go of some really great girls. I'm obviously very biased, 648 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: but I think like even the Brianna like situation, Like, 649 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: you know, we didn't get to see a ton of her, 650 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: and there are some girls that kind of like snuck 651 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,800 Speaker 1: away here that we didn't get to learn a lot about, 652 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: and I think those women. I think he had a 653 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: great cast. I think we said that the very beginning 654 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,240 Speaker 1: when we just saw the pictures, were like, this cast 655 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: is gorgeous, and so I think he's just had a 656 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: really good group of women on his season, which is 657 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: good for Zach. Mm hmm. Really, there's not much to 658 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: say about the you know, daytime portion of the day. 659 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: It really gets serious on the one on one where 660 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: she goes, you know, he's talking about how greater personality is, 661 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: just like we just said, and then she was like, 662 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: you would have no idea who I was like a 663 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,919 Speaker 1: year ago. Like she just says that she's kind of 664 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: become a full person again after she had six years 665 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: of an abusive relationship first start out. First it started 666 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 1: out as an emotionally abusive relationship and then it turned physical, 667 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: and she said it was something that her entire life 668 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 1: she just wanted to avoid. She's like, I wanted to 669 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: be like my grandparents. They were really healthy relationship role 670 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: models I never wanted to be how the relationship my 671 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 1: parents did, particularly like she just didn't want to ever 672 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: be with a man like her dad. She said her 673 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: dad was awful, and then she basically did just that, 674 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,399 Speaker 1: and she finally got out of it, and she said 675 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: the thing that broke her out of it was the 676 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 1: police having to wake her up from being knocked out gracious, 677 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: like unbelievable. I know, it's just this, this is the 678 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: saddest story. And it's like, I don't even know what 679 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 1: to say about it, except for I really do genuinely 680 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: feel like Zach was handled the situation and hearing her 681 00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: story very well, and and I feel like she felt 682 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: pretty safe with him, Like she felt safe in the 683 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: sense that like she could talk to him about it, 684 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 1: but also in the sense that like he would never 685 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 1: do that to her, and he would obviously would never 686 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: do that to her. But you know what I mean, well, 687 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: I mean, earlier on we talked about courage and this. 688 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure there's many people watching this um 689 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: show and saying, like, you know, one rallying around her 690 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: uh and saying, you know, to Brooklyn, like you know, 691 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: want us wanting to support her to I'm sure there's 692 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: people out there watching it that have been through or 693 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,320 Speaker 1: in a similar situation and now they feel less alone. 694 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: And her courage to speak up and share this story 695 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 1: is um, I don't know either the word to put 696 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 1: him not only impressive, but just humbling, and it's it's 697 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: one of those moments where you sit there and you 698 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: watch it and like your heart hurts, your stomach hurts, 699 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 1: and you're just like, how can how is this? How 700 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 1: do people uh exists in the world that would hurt 701 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 1: somebody like her in this way for so long? Like 702 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 1: how are there that? Like? How is somebody so terrible? 703 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: But then then you know for me, as I was 704 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: watching it and and the switch happened, like but yeah, 705 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 1: but then look at her, like now she's on television 706 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: taking a risk, like this is why this show. This 707 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: is why we fell in love with the show at 708 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: the beginning, is because people like Brooklyn said, I just 709 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: I need another shot at love, like I need another 710 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 1: shot to put myself out there and see if it 711 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: can exist. If it doesn't exist here on the show, 712 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 1: maybe I'll learn something and grow from this experience, And 713 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back out into the world and find 714 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 1: find my partner in the world. And that's you know, 715 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: that's why, Like what this show has always been about 716 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: is these love stories and these people saying I need 717 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 1: a second chance or I need a chance at love. 718 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: And so for Brooklyn to put herself back onto the show, 719 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 1: I think it's such a big deal, um, and one 720 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: that we can can't underestimate and one that we can't 721 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,240 Speaker 1: put words into. Only she could. But um, yeah, this 722 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,879 Speaker 1: this is uh, this is this is one of those 723 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: moments you wish never existed in the world, but they 724 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: but it does, and and Brooklyn now has spoken out 725 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 1: about it and so many people I think, um will 726 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: feel us alone again because of her story, Yes for sure. Alright, well, 727 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: I guess we will move on to the cocktail party. 728 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 1: I'd say the most notable thing to talk about here is, well, 729 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:34,279 Speaker 1: this is where Anastasia gets eliminated. Kylie gets really upset 730 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 1: at the fact that she even brought up in the 731 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 1: situation about Instagram because she just feels like she's now 732 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:43,479 Speaker 1: responsible for somebody's elimination. She shouldn't feel this way, and 733 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 1: I think she was just exaggerating. But I understand. I 734 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:51,720 Speaker 1: understand that, I understand the guilt, but she she should 735 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: just know she's fine. Yeah, and how much of that 736 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 1: gil is coming from her being concerned to that Zack 737 00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 1: is going to see her as kind of that like 738 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 1: fire starter tittle tale. That's what she also said. She 739 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: was like, I'm afraid I'm not going to get a 740 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 1: rose because I was the one who like stirred up drama. 741 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 1: She gets the rose. And the other thing is d 742 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 1: Villa is getting emotional because she feels like she hasn't 743 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,399 Speaker 1: had a lot of quality one on one time, which 744 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:20,360 Speaker 1: is probably true, and he she sees Hi and she 745 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: sees Zack pulled cat aside for one on one time 746 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: when she already has a rose, had a one on 747 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,240 Speaker 1: one all that, and it's just like, Okay, I'm feeling 748 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 1: very bottom of the totem pole here. And unfortunately she 749 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: was right because she did get eliminated, and she got 750 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 1: eliminated after like they did kiss at the cocktail party, 751 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: but you can tell him the kiss that it wasn't 752 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 1: there for him and it made me feel sad for her, 753 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,840 Speaker 1: But she doesn't really know. She didn't really know in 754 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: the moment. It was just kind of a couple of 755 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: little pecks were as the other kisses are far more passionate. 756 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: At the Rose ceremony, we see di Villa and Genevieve 757 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: go home. Genevie. Justice for Genevieve. She broke her arm 758 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 1: during this season and went home in week four. I 759 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: mean that talk about somebody's going to go home and 760 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,800 Speaker 1: be like, was that worth it? I'm hoping she's laughing, 761 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 1: giggling about all this today because this show put her 762 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: through the ringer. Oh that's funny. Poor girl. You know, 763 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,439 Speaker 1: she'll always have a story to tell. A couple of years, 764 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,400 Speaker 1: she'll be she'll be glad. Yeah, poor girl. Um So 765 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 1: who we have left now? Not that many? I mean 766 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: we have a very small group. Oh glad. I'm glad 767 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: we are at this point that we can remember all 768 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:45,359 Speaker 1: names and really like root for people. You got Charity, Katie, Gabby, Jess, Mercedes, 769 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: Ali Greer, Kylie, thank kat Thank you, kat In Brooklyn. 770 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 1: Of these girls the ones that, oh scenario, thank you 771 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: for giving me the rose, the Rose getters that happened 772 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 1: before the Rose ceremony. Of these girls, the ones that 773 00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 1: are not standing out to me so much like I 774 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: can't I'm not like, oh, yes, I remember that moment. 775 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 1: I remember that moment with them would be just and Mercedes, 776 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 1: what about you? Oh yeah, I mean i'd probably have 777 00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 1: to say the same thing. I just just did have 778 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 1: a moment this week, he said. He said, I'm glad 779 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 1: you're here. Like, well, you know, he was like, I 780 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,480 Speaker 1: know you're probably feeling a little bit behind, but like 781 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,879 Speaker 1: I just know that I'm like really glad you're here. 782 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,280 Speaker 1: So that is a very comforting thing for her here. 783 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 1: It's better than him being like, hey, you know, I 784 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,360 Speaker 1: just didn't have enough. Yeah, I have a couple of 785 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,120 Speaker 1: roses here and honestly you just kind of made the cut. Um, 786 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,720 Speaker 1: So no, it's better there. I mean, I I really 787 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 1: think next week we're gonna see Gero home. No really, 788 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 1: I do. I just have this first impression Rose. Yeah. 789 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: He hasn't given her a date. Yeah, that would be 790 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 1: really crazy. Yeah, I just feel like it's going to 791 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: be one of those first impression roses that kind of 792 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 1: like come in then leave earlier than we expect. I 793 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:13,320 Speaker 1: have a prediction. I don't know anything. We have headlines 794 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: to break down Ashley. Let's jump into him. The first 795 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 1: headline is about me. Um, yeah, well you can take 796 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 1: this one, then you can break it down here it goes. 797 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:27,840 Speaker 1: Chris Lane and Lauren Bushnell Lane react to his run 798 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 1: in with Ben Higgins at the golf tournament the Hilton 799 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 1: Grand Vacations Golf Tournament. This is according to US Weekly. Okay, well, 800 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 1: Chris Lane and Lauren Bushnell Lane spoke exclusively to US 801 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 1: Weekly after her ex fiance Ben Higgins revealed that he 802 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 1: played in the same golf tournament as the country singer. 803 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 1: It was great. I know he I know he's played 804 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 1: in that tournament for several years now. Chris said, um. 805 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 1: And then he continued to say, I was very excited 806 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 1: to be part of it down there in Orlando. And 807 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: then Laurence said that Chris has been talking about this 808 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 1: tournament leading up to leading up to it for about 809 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,760 Speaker 1: four months. And I've never met someone who loves golf 810 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: as much as Chris Lane, except for maybe you, Ben Higgins. 811 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I'm offended. Yeah, And then they 812 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 1: also said Ben was actually the first pete, one of 813 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,160 Speaker 1: the first people that I ran into at the hotel. 814 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 1: This is what Chris is saying. And he had a 815 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 1: chance to talk to you for a little bit. What 816 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,319 Speaker 1: a nice guy. We had such a great time We 817 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 1: didn't get to play golf together, but we had several 818 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,799 Speaker 1: run ins and it was great. We should have played 819 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,320 Speaker 1: golf together. We had the same score after day one 820 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: and wells. Chris and I were like, there's no way 821 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: they don't put us together, and I was looking forward 822 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:47,440 Speaker 1: to it. We did have a good time. It was 823 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 1: nice to hang out with Chris. We did get to 824 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 1: hang out quite a bit. I enjoyed it. We talked 825 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 1: about the podcast, But how the tournament did not put 826 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 1: Chris Lane and I together walking the fairways competing as 827 00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 1: each other is beyond me. I don't know what what 828 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:04,759 Speaker 1: why they didn't. It's as yeah, we could have. We 829 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 1: could have created some job. We could have fake fought 830 00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 1: or really fought. I don't know if I um on 831 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 1: the fairways, but yeah, it was great to be with him. 832 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 1: That's such a cool tournament. It was so fun and 833 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 1: I'm happy anytime somebody else gets the invite um to 834 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,800 Speaker 1: enjoy it with us. So um, yeah, that's that headline. 835 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,680 Speaker 1: Next headline is this Bachelor Nation couple Joe and Serena 836 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:30,359 Speaker 1: are definitely thinking about kids some days, says real real 837 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 1: juicy han guys. Uh. They talked on their first day 838 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 1: in Paradise that they'd like to have kids, but not 839 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,279 Speaker 1: right now. They're assuming that they'll like to have to 840 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,960 Speaker 1: but they're in no rush and that's all they got. Goodness, 841 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,400 Speaker 1: that's all we have. Okay. Uh. This is a question 842 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,319 Speaker 1: that gets asked very often. In fact, it was asked 843 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 1: me last night at Ohio University. What happens to the 844 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 1: Neil Lane engagement ring after Bachelor Nation splits? Um, some 845 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 1: leads talked to Yahoo and explain. Okay, so there are 846 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,880 Speaker 1: two ways for Bachelor Nation members to keep the engagement 847 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 1: ring gifted to them by ABC. You either make it 848 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,359 Speaker 1: down the aisle, or you stay engaged for at least 849 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 1: two years. After a certain number of years you get 850 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 1: to keep it anyways, but after months it goes back. 851 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,759 Speaker 1: That's what Chris Harrison said to Entertainment Weekly. Um. It's 852 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 1: also makes me wonder about certain situations though, where like 853 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:37,400 Speaker 1: Chris ran Down and Crystal they got married. They got married, 854 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 1: but they were only together for two years and then 855 00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 1: they got divorced like six months later. So what does 856 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,600 Speaker 1: that mean. I'd imagine they keep the ring, okay, because 857 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,799 Speaker 1: it says make it down the aisle. Imagine they keep 858 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 1: the ring it's in their name. Then okay uh, and 859 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:55,759 Speaker 1: then let's see Ali. We have a couple of examples here. 860 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,880 Speaker 1: Ali said that she and Roberto weren't getting together for 861 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,879 Speaker 1: eighteen months. Wow, that's actually feels like I can't believe 862 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 1: they're were together for eighteen months. Um. And she says, 863 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 1: I know that number so well because I was like, 864 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: I don't want them to take my engagement ring away, 865 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,320 Speaker 1: and she was like, this is part of my history, 866 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 1: Like this is mine. You cannot have it. Per the contract. 867 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,319 Speaker 1: It was supposed to be two years, but they let 868 00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:25,600 Speaker 1: her keep it. Good for her, Good for her. I 869 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,400 Speaker 1: want to know what happens once it goes back, Like 870 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:31,320 Speaker 1: does Neil Lane resell that is? Is there like millions 871 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,239 Speaker 1: of dollars of engagement rings sitting in Warner Brothers like 872 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,880 Speaker 1: block box right now? Um, Mike, my guess would be 873 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 1: that they take the diamonds out and they reuse the diamonds, 874 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 1: wouldn't you think? I always wonder if you're like getting 875 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,880 Speaker 1: somebody else's like cursed diamond though, like from a relationship 876 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,279 Speaker 1: that didn't work out. Could be it could be. I mean, 877 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 1: those things are big. I gotta read this about Becka 878 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:57,880 Speaker 1: Koufren says Season fourteen Bachelor Becker Koufer and once joked 879 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:03,360 Speaker 1: about having a ring a yard. Uh, they get to 880 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,759 Speaker 1: keep them all locked away, hidden from everyone, all the 881 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 1: scorned rings, That's what she said. So I guess all 882 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:14,120 Speaker 1: of Becca Koufren's rings, which according to our deductions and 883 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,919 Speaker 1: that and that rule would mean that yes, they went back. 884 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:21,799 Speaker 1: Goodness gracious. Well. Ivan Hall opens up about his relationship 885 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:26,919 Speaker 1: with his girlfriend and his time on reality television. Well, 886 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 1: he posted this in an Instagram. He said, this beauty 887 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 1: here is all mine. We have known each other for 888 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 1: many years and always find our way back to one another. 889 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:41,399 Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more of our journey. That's what we got. Oh, 890 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:45,800 Speaker 1: she's a doctor, she's an antcesiologist. She's also extremely athletic. 891 00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:50,919 Speaker 1: She deserves the world. Wow, what a catch, What a catch? Well, 892 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,960 Speaker 1: Love Is Blind's Cold Barnet is rumored to be spending 893 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:58,279 Speaker 1: time with the Bachelor Season twenty winners Susie Evans. So 894 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,799 Speaker 1: Cole said that his first date that is not Love 895 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:08,840 Speaker 1: is Blind oriented, was with Bachelor season winner Susie Evans, 896 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 1: and apparently the conversation went very well or flirting, and 897 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:18,759 Speaker 1: I think it's maybe like a phone call dates. It 898 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 1: was something like that, so it wasn't a real Yeah. Yeah, 899 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,000 Speaker 1: it seems like it's starting. It's like the starting out, 900 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 1: like a starting out phase. But by the end of 901 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,880 Speaker 1: this call, Susie said hurry up and getting my d 902 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,720 Speaker 1: m s. And then he ended the call by telling 903 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 1: Susie to hurry up and getting his d m s. 904 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 1: And then Susie said, I'll shoot you one over And 905 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,120 Speaker 1: this is all happening kind of like in a public form. 906 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,719 Speaker 1: I think it was like an interview. Wow, this is 907 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,320 Speaker 1: a big deal. Big deal. Well, final headline. It is 908 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 1: Valentine's Day. So for all of you out there who 909 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 1: are celebrating romantic love, hey, I hope you have a 910 00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 1: great day. For all of you out there who are single, hey, 911 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 1: I hope you have a great day. I hope this 912 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,480 Speaker 1: is an awesome day for you. Don't get down in yourself. 913 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,839 Speaker 1: Um uh. This day is always a weird day for 914 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:10,799 Speaker 1: so many But if you are in love and you're 915 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,800 Speaker 1: celebrating Valentine's Day, we have a little um info from 916 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 1: two of Bachelor Nation's biggest stars. Trisa Sutter and her 917 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 1: husband Ryan have lasted over twenty years as the o 918 00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 1: G Bachelor Nation couple. They explain how in this article, 919 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 1: so she says that they're actually still learning to communicate 920 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:33,680 Speaker 1: even twenty years later. Like sometimes we'll say stuff like 921 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 1: I know that you have done nothing wrong, but this 922 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,400 Speaker 1: is still really difficult for me. I love you, but 923 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,840 Speaker 1: I just need time to figure things out and just 924 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,640 Speaker 1: to figure out my own emotions. Not for us to 925 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,319 Speaker 1: figure this out, but figure out how to process and 926 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,239 Speaker 1: deal with this on my own, She says. Naturally, when 927 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:53,200 Speaker 1: you're in a relationship, you figure out when to engage, 928 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 1: and then they still do. But we also have to 929 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 1: like ask each other questions and constantly remind each other 930 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,719 Speaker 1: that we need to be in a relationship. And even 931 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 1: after twenty years, you can still learn how you know 932 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,880 Speaker 1: your partner wants to be communicated with some good tips. 933 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,840 Speaker 1: They're seventy two years. Her grandparents are married. That's awesome. 934 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,319 Speaker 1: My parents just celebrated forty years um a few days ago. 935 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,799 Speaker 1: Massive accomplishments out there. Congratulations to your parents. Yeah, great 936 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 1: people to look up to. Hey, that's all we have 937 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:27,960 Speaker 1: for you today. This has been the Almost Famous Podcast. 938 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,880 Speaker 1: Back next week with another episode of The Almost Famous Podcast, 939 00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,120 Speaker 1: Breaking down episode of five of Zach season of The 940 00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 1: Bachelor allows to look forward to a lot to We 941 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,920 Speaker 1: talked about that for a second. It's happening in London, 942 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,760 Speaker 1: which is exciting. I think that's a really cool location, 943 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,560 Speaker 1: and I don't think we use a lot utilize it 944 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,840 Speaker 1: a lot. I just remember Emily Maynard season in London. 945 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 1: I don't remember them going back since, so I'm excited 946 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:50,880 Speaker 1: for that. But it doesn't look like we're going to 947 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,960 Speaker 1: get the many dates there because something is going on, 948 00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,719 Speaker 1: and I'm really intrigued to find out what it is. 949 00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:01,080 Speaker 1: Zach is in a suit on zoom FaceTime or something 950 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,120 Speaker 1: we never I don't think we're seeing I don't know 951 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,600 Speaker 1: how to rewatch it, but I don't think we like 952 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,200 Speaker 1: see him with the girls in London and they're all 953 00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,719 Speaker 1: freaking out because it seems like he's not there. So 954 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:15,240 Speaker 1: I'm so I'm torn on whether or not he's sick 955 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 1: and like he has COVID and needs a quarantine, or 956 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,080 Speaker 1: whether there's like some family emergency and he had to 957 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,120 Speaker 1: go back home for it. Yeah, let's go. Hey, we're 958 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,560 Speaker 1: going to London. You're gonna be stuck in a hotel 959 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,360 Speaker 1: room and Zach's gonna be on Zoom. It's gonna be awesome, 960 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 1: but maybe at Zoom dates. It's actually not the worst idea. 961 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:37,000 Speaker 1: It would be like very realistic for at least what 962 00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,000 Speaker 1: life was a couple of years ago. And there we go. 963 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,239 Speaker 1: We'll be back next week watching it, breaking it down. 964 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,200 Speaker 1: We're intrigued to see this episode until then. I've been Been, 965 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,320 Speaker 1: I've Been Ashley. See you guys. Follow the Ben and 966 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,120 Speaker 1: Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on IHR Radio or subscribe 967 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:53,719 Speaker 1: wherever you listen to podcasts.