WEBVTT - Peter Schweizer - How China Buys Off Our Elites

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<v Speaker 1>Buck Sexton Show. On this episode, we have the one

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<v Speaker 1>and only Peter Schweitzer. You will know him from his

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<v Speaker 1>many best selling books. He's an investigative reporter and author.

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<v Speaker 1>His latest book, Red Handed, How American Elites Get rich.

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<v Speaker 1>Helping China win is really important and I'm excited to

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<v Speaker 1>talk toim about it now. Peter, Great to have you

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<v Speaker 1>on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Great to be with you, Buck, Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>So just give everybody if we could start this because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're going to talk Biden and we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to get into some of that, and we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about some of the specifics here of individuals who

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<v Speaker 1>it seems we're willing to certainly sell themselves, if not

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<v Speaker 1>sell out their country a little bit on behalf of

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<v Speaker 1>the Chinese Communist Party. Give us a sense of the

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<v Speaker 1>scope of the problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the scope of the problem touches basically all the

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<v Speaker 2>corners of America, Washington, d C, Silicon Valley, and Wall Street.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's predicated on a very simple idea that the

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<v Speaker 2>Chinese have, which they call elite capture. They've used it

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<v Speaker 2>in New Orleans, sorry, New Orleans. They've used it in

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<v Speaker 2>New Zealand. They've used it in Australia, they've used it

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<v Speaker 2>in Singapore. And the idea is pretty simple. Rather than

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<v Speaker 2>go to toe toe to toe with countries and have confrontations,

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<v Speaker 2>you basically buy off their political elites, and you do

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<v Speaker 2>that by giving commercial deals to their family members. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's working very, very well in the United States. It

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<v Speaker 2>includes people on both sides of the isle, and it

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<v Speaker 2>includes some of the biggest names in Wall Street and

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<v Speaker 2>Silicon Valley as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So give me some you know, we're, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to get to the Biden component of this,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a lot more than that in China's efforts

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<v Speaker 1>to undermine the United States from within, and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of ways I find even more frightening, Peter than some

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<v Speaker 1>of the you know, the Soviets were relying on ideological

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<v Speaker 1>fellow travelers comrades.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>For the Soviets, it was this false promise of a utopia.

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<v Speaker 1>Find some malcontent in America who thinks that eventually he'll

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<v Speaker 1>be greeted you know, it's back in the in the

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<v Speaker 1>fifties and the sixties, the seventies, he'll be greeted as

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<v Speaker 1>a hero. There were the occasional whether you know, an

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<v Speaker 1>FBI turncode or somebody who was doing it just for

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<v Speaker 1>the money, but you know, usually the money is not

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<v Speaker 1>that good and if you get caught, you're gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>to prison forever. Right, So it was people that were

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<v Speaker 1>ideologically motivated. Usually with China. If they can give people

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<v Speaker 1>millions and millions of dollars and they're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>jail for it, I feel like that's a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>problematic for us because it's a much more persuasive bargain

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<v Speaker 1>and therefore gives them much greater leverage to undermine the

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<v Speaker 1>US from within.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean, this is a key point, Buck. We've

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<v Speaker 2>never faced anything like this, and you're correct. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>the Soviets others like the Cubans use an ideological appeal,

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<v Speaker 2>or they find somebody that's got personal financial problems that

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<v Speaker 2>needs election the extra cash. What the Chinese do is

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<v Speaker 2>they appeal to our sense of capitalism, they appeal to

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<v Speaker 2>our sense of friendship, and they embrace it. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>very very effective. And where there are people that are

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<v Speaker 2>so wealthy, like Bill Gates, who don't necessarily need money

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<v Speaker 2>from China. They appeal to their sense of value as

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<v Speaker 2>a world leader. So a guy like Bill Gates, you're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to necessarily get by some commercial deal because

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<v Speaker 2>he's already worth one hundred billion dollars. But you can

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<v Speaker 2>name him one of the fifty most influential people in

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<v Speaker 2>Chinese history, right next to Karl Marx and Mao, and

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<v Speaker 2>you can give him awards, and President g will shower

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<v Speaker 2>him with attention when he shows up. So they're very

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<v Speaker 2>good at taking our weaknesses, taking perhaps some of our

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<v Speaker 2>sins or sinful nature, and using it to their strategic advantage.

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<v Speaker 2>And they've been masterful at it. And as you point out,

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<v Speaker 2>not really any of this is illegal, which is what

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<v Speaker 2>makes it so challenging.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, you take a suitcase full of money to give

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<v Speaker 1>the names of you know, US agents operating in let's

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<v Speaker 1>say the Soviet Union. It's treason and you know you

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<v Speaker 1>could even get the death penalty for this, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're in a whole hell of a lot of trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>You get millions of dollars for consulting from China, because

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<v Speaker 1>you're some kind of you have some kind of business

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<v Speaker 1>interest in that country, or they're going to pay you

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<v Speaker 1>for your expertise. That's just capitalism, baby, right, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>whole different ballgame. Give us some sense of who who's

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<v Speaker 1>involved in this in a way that when you were

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<v Speaker 1>doing your research for Red Handed, the book that everybody

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<v Speaker 1>should check out get a copy of right now, how

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<v Speaker 1>American elites helped get American elites get rich helping China win.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's involved in this that was a little surprising, or

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<v Speaker 1>their involvement in getting rich from China was so egregious

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<v Speaker 1>that you had to say to yourself, is this really

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Good question. Well, I'll give you a couple of examples.

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<v Speaker 2>One that was particularly appalling to me. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>an illustration of what selling your soul looks like. Is

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<v Speaker 2>a Wall Street Titan named Ray Dalio. Ridgewater Associates the

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<v Speaker 2>largest hedge fund in the world. Ray Daalio in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen wrote this glowing book called Principles Ironically, and in

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<v Speaker 2>that book he describes a gentleman from China who's had

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<v Speaker 2>this profound effect on him, and he writes glnely for

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<v Speaker 2>seven pages, how Wonki Sean has been this remarkable force

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<v Speaker 2>for good on a global scale. He talks about him

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<v Speaker 2>as this sort of philosophical giant that's unlike any leader

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<v Speaker 2>that we've had in the last one hundred years, and

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<v Speaker 2>he just gushes on and on and on. So I'm thinking,

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<v Speaker 2>who is this guy, Wonky Sean? I look it up,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course he is She's enforcer. The Economist magazine

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<v Speaker 2>calls him the most feared man in China, because if

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<v Speaker 2>you get disappeared in China, Wonkyi Sean is the guy

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<v Speaker 2>that makes it happen. And so I thought to myself,

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<v Speaker 2>what prompts a guy like ray Daalio, who's clearly smart.

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<v Speaker 2>He can go and look at what the Economist says

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<v Speaker 2>about this guy. Why is he gushing on and on

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<v Speaker 2>and on for seven to ten pages about how wonderful

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<v Speaker 2>this person is as an individual. Well about a year

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<v Speaker 2>after he publishes the book, Wonky Sean is the Chinese

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<v Speaker 2>official that approves his company, Bridgewater Associates, to become the

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<v Speaker 2>first Western financial firm to offer hedge front products to

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<v Speaker 2>the average person in China. So, to me, that is

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<v Speaker 2>a classic example of the appalling lengths to which people

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<v Speaker 2>are willing to go in order to cash in before

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<v Speaker 2>I go to the I'm trying to hold myself back

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<v Speaker 2>here a little bit on the political want.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to know the full everything you got on Biden,

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<v Speaker 1>everything you got on Pelosi when it comes to this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I think's interesting though, on the cover of your book

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<v Speaker 1>Red Handed, Lebron James is there. How does Lebron James

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<v Speaker 1>find himself on the cover of a book about people

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<v Speaker 1>selling out to China?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's interesting. Lebron James actually probably make some more

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<v Speaker 2>money from his deals in China that he does in

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<v Speaker 2>the United States, and he has some very lucrative deals

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<v Speaker 2>with Chinese state media and other entities. And while people

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<v Speaker 2>are familiar with sort of the kerfluffel in twenty nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>when the Houston Rockets general manager, you know, stood up

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<v Speaker 2>for the freedom protesters in Hong Kong and Lebron James

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<v Speaker 2>told him he was uneducated, his appeasement of China actually

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<v Speaker 2>goes back a lot longer than that, which is one

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<v Speaker 2>of the things that was surprising. In two thousand and eight,

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<v Speaker 2>there was a big petition drive in the NBA concerning Darfur, Sudan,

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<v Speaker 2>where there were millions, sorry, hundreds of thousands of black

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<v Speaker 2>Christians being massacred in Sudan. The government was backed by

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<v Speaker 2>the government of China, and so the petition drive called

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<v Speaker 2>for a condemnation of the Chinese government backing a government

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<v Speaker 2>that was massacring hundreds of thousands of black Christians. The

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<v Speaker 2>petition went around the NBA, A lot of people signed it.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the people who did not sign it was

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron James, and the reason was that he even then

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<v Speaker 2>had clear signs and designs on expanding his business empire

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<v Speaker 2>into China. And that's why to this day he will

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<v Speaker 2>not criticize China and is an example to me of

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<v Speaker 2>this kind of sellout mentality. So you have, in this

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<v Speaker 2>case an athlete who talks about black lives matter, but

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<v Speaker 2>apparently these two hundred thousand black lives in South Sudan

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<v Speaker 2>did not matter because the people that were perpetuating the

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<v Speaker 2>massacre were people that were also paying him money.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to come back now. I'm going to allow

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<v Speaker 1>myself to start asking some of the political questions that

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<v Speaker 1>I held back as long as I could. But first

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<v Speaker 1>know that the bidens we're going to build up to.

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<v Speaker 1>That one got a lot of money from China. What's

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<v Speaker 1>the Pelosi China connection? Yeah, this is very interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean Nancy Pelosi, when she came into Congress in

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<v Speaker 2>the late eighties, was actually very anti CCP. She at

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<v Speaker 2>one point in the nineteen nineties was part of this

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<v Speaker 2>congressional delegation that showed up and tried to unfurl a

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<v Speaker 2>banner on Taneman Square and the Chinese police kind of

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<v Speaker 2>went answer after a congressman Pelosi and took it away,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was sort of this big incident, and she

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<v Speaker 2>had that reputation for a long time. That started to

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<v Speaker 2>change in the two thousands, and it changed critically around

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<v Speaker 2>on the two thousand and eight Olympics because her husband,

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<v Speaker 2>Paul Pelosi, was the owner of a luxury limousine company

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<v Speaker 2>and they were sought out and offered and given an exclusive,

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<v Speaker 2>very nice contract to deliver VIPs in Beijing as part

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<v Speaker 2>of the Olympics. And that was the beginning of the

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<v Speaker 2>commercial ties that started to exist between the Pelosis and China.

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<v Speaker 2>They took a big stake in several China investment funds.

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<v Speaker 2>Nancy Pelosi's son made several trips seeking business deals in

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<v Speaker 2>China and secured some there. So Pelosi has kind of

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<v Speaker 2>reversed course. And while she does things like take these

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<v Speaker 2>trips to China, sorry to Taiwan that was so high profile,

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<v Speaker 2>her general posture towards China is exactly what Beijing wants.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is really important. Buck what the Chinese are

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<v Speaker 2>looking for from elites that they capture is not sort

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<v Speaker 2>of a robotic the CCP is great, we love Mao.

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<v Speaker 2>They describe it as big hell help with a little

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<v Speaker 2>bad mouth. In other words, they want help on the

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<v Speaker 2>big things that matter, which is trade policy, military policy,

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<v Speaker 2>not calling them out for COVID, those sorts of things.

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<v Speaker 2>If you ding them on human rights, if you say

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<v Speaker 2>Taiwan's a great place, they'll live with that. So Nancy

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<v Speaker 2>Pelosi is absolutely a captured elite, and you see this

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<v Speaker 2>dramatic change in her posture that begins to happen when

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<v Speaker 2>her family starts securing commercial deals in China.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you also give us a sense for these elites

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<v Speaker 1>on the political side or on the corporate side of

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<v Speaker 1>the downside, if you will financially of crossing China, How

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<v Speaker 1>on it are they right? I mean, are there examples

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<v Speaker 1>that you came across with this where someone either broke

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<v Speaker 1>from the line that Beijing wants or refused to play

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<v Speaker 1>the game that Beijing was trying to dictate to them

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<v Speaker 1>and they got hit.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the most dramatic examples would be in Hollywood, guys

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<v Speaker 2>like Richard Gear and Brad Pitt, who did movies that

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<v Speaker 2>were favorable towards the Dali Lama or Tibet and they

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<v Speaker 2>cannot get any of their films distributed in China, which

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<v Speaker 2>is a huge limitation in the political world. In the

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<v Speaker 2>corporate world, it generally doesn't happen. If you look at

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<v Speaker 2>Mitch McConnell, for example, his wife Elaine Chow, they have

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<v Speaker 2>a shipping business that really beginning in nineteen ninety three.

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<v Speaker 2>The Chinese government said to the Chow family, Hey, tell

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<v Speaker 2>you what. We will build the ships for your shipping business.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll finance the construction with state owned banks, we'll provide

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<v Speaker 2>all the crews, we'll give you all the contracts to

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<v Speaker 2>ship those goods around the world. The Chow family said, yes, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 2>we're on board, and the business grew exponentially. A problem

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<v Speaker 2>is now that it's generally acknowledged that if Mitch mcconough

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<v Speaker 2>were to lay down the gauntlet on China on these

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<v Speaker 2>issues again big help with a little bad mouth, they'll

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<v Speaker 2>tolerate some criticism. But if he were to lay down

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<v Speaker 2>the gauntlet, the Chinese could destroy the family shipping business overnight.

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<v Speaker 2>That has a massive detern effect, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>the reason we don't see too many people defect once

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<v Speaker 2>they've been captured by the Chinese.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you think it's fair to say at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, do you feel like we can't trust the

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<v Speaker 1>Senate majority leader on issues related to China because of this?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, is he compromised?

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<v Speaker 2>I think he is. Yeah. I mean, look, the family

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<v Speaker 2>shipping business is now enormously successful. They're highly dependent on

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<v Speaker 2>the Chinese. His father in law gave him a gift

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<v Speaker 2>of I think twenty five million dollars sort of a

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<v Speaker 2>friendship gift to his son in law that directly came

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<v Speaker 2>from the shipping business. And you look at the other

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<v Speaker 2>members of the Chow family. His in laws. Angela Chaw,

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<v Speaker 2>who's Lane Cho's sister, sits on the board of directors

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<v Speaker 2>of the Bank of China, which is the state owned bank.

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<v Speaker 2>You look at some of the other businesses that the

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<v Speaker 2>Chinese State Shipbuilding Corporation has started. That's the biggest military

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<v Speaker 2>contractor in China. When they launched those businesses, they put

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<v Speaker 2>Mitch McConnell's father in law and sistern law on the

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<v Speaker 2>board of those entities. So yeah, I think it's very

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<v Speaker 2>very hard for him to extricate himself. Again, he will

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<v Speaker 2>be critical of the Chinese, but when push comes to

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<v Speaker 2>shove on these issues, he will not push and support

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<v Speaker 2>legislation that will sort of lay down the gauntlet, whether

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<v Speaker 2>it's on COVID or national security issues.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I get this sense that you hear a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of talk about standing up to China, and you hear

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<v Speaker 1>from Republicans and Democrats now and then I always wonder

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<v Speaker 1>how right like what this is, and I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>this is now the expectation. It's, oh, you know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna sure, we're gonna do so much much China. But

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<v Speaker 1>the Chinese know, as long as everything stays as it

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<v Speaker 1>really is, nothing really changes for them. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get into Biden here in just a second. But first off,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this week I did something really special. So

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<v Speaker 1>the first for me, I got to interview this amazing

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<v Speaker 1>market analyst with a tremendous record of incredible predictions, including

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<v Speaker 1>going on TV and calling the nineteen eighty seven stock

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<v Speaker 1>market crash for it happened. That guy was my dad,

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<v Speaker 1>Mason Sexton, and he launched a new product this week,

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<v Speaker 1>the first time in thirty years that he's come forward.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been advising hedge funds behind the scenes for years now,

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<v Speaker 1>but he decided, given where the market's heading now, he

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<v Speaker 1>it's just weeks away before you're going to see some

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<v Speaker 1>massive moves in the market that he's predicting. You want

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<v Speaker 1>Disruption twenty twenty three dot com. All right, Peter, the

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<v Speaker 1>Biden crime family and China, tell me what I need

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<v Speaker 1>to know?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think what you need to know first off

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<v Speaker 2>is that, in contrast to the McConnell's or even others

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, the the Trump family who has had

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<v Speaker 2>commercial ties in China, the Bidens don't actually have an

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<v Speaker 2>underlying business. You know, the Kushners have real estate that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Avanka Trump had her shoes made in China,

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<v Speaker 2>but she actually had a shoe line. Mitch mcconnald's company

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<v Speaker 2>actually has a shipping company. The Bidens don't have a business.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the first thing that you have to understand. The

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<v Speaker 2>second thing is the flow of money from China began

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<v Speaker 2>when Joe Biden became Vice President of the United States

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<v Speaker 2>and shortly after Barack Obama anointed him publicly is the

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<v Speaker 2>point person on policy towards China. That's when this bigot

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<v Speaker 2>began to open. And if you look at the emails,

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<v Speaker 2>the laptop emails, you find that some thirty one million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars has flowed to the Biden family based on the

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<v Speaker 2>wire transfers and the communication and the emails. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think the most troubling part of this buck and I

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<v Speaker 2>think you know, with your background you'll appreciate this perhaps

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<v Speaker 2>more than anyone, is you can identify the four people

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<v Speaker 2>I'd name them in the book, the four people that

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<v Speaker 2>made it rain for the Bidens in China. Each one

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<v Speaker 2>of those four has ties to the highest levels of

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<v Speaker 2>Chinese intelligence. So for example, Chai Feng, he got that

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<v Speaker 2>BHR private equity deal. It's worth about twenty million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>to Hunter Biden at the same time that Chae Feng

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<v Speaker 2>secured that deal for Hunter Biden, he was business partners

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<v Speaker 2>with the Vice Minister of State Security in China, the

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<v Speaker 2>vice of State Security responsible for the recruitment of foreign

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<v Speaker 2>nationals to spy for China. If you look at Henry Jao,

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<v Speaker 2>who transferred six million dollars to Hunter Biden at the

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<v Speaker 2>same time he made that happen, he was business partners

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<v Speaker 2>with the family of the former head of the Ministry

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<v Speaker 2>of State Security. All four of the people that sent

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<v Speaker 2>money to the Bidens, again with no underlying business, no

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<v Speaker 2>service or product in return for that money. Each one

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<v Speaker 2>of those individuals was tied to Chinese intelligence. That in

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<v Speaker 2>my mind is not a coincidence, and I think we

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<v Speaker 2>have to stop looking at the Biden situation not as

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<v Speaker 2>just corruption. This is a foreign intelligence operation. This is

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<v Speaker 2>a Chinese effort to capture America's first family, and I

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<v Speaker 2>believe they have successfully done so.

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<v Speaker 1>How much money went from anything connected to a Chinese national, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>any bank and he to Hunter Biden directly, Like, do

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<v Speaker 1>we have an aggregate total?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, so we know that there was six million

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<v Speaker 2>sent to him by chairman Yee. That's the CEFC Energy company.

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<v Speaker 2>Before he ended up CEFC, he was the head of

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<v Speaker 2>a Chinese military intelligence operation that was exactly so he

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<v Speaker 2>sent six million dollars to Hunter Biden. We know that

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<v Speaker 2>Henry Jauss sent five million dollars. He's the guy that

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<v Speaker 2>was the partners with the former Minister of State Security.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we have this BHR private equity deal. We

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<v Speaker 2>don't know the valuation of it, but the University of

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<v Speaker 2>Chicago Business School did an estimate and said that his stake,

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<v Speaker 2>which he was given by the Chinese government was about

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<v Speaker 2>worth about twenty million dollars. So there's thirty one million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars right there. That doesn't include other deals that we

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<v Speaker 2>know of, but we don't know the dollar amounts. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think that thing we have to remember with this

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<v Speaker 2>Congressional committee, the Oversight Committee, is they've gone through four

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<v Speaker 2>of twelve banks that the bidens used for the transference

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<v Speaker 2>of this money. So they have the total at eleven

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<v Speaker 2>million right now. That number is going to continue to

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<v Speaker 2>go up, and I think it's going to probably ultimately

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<v Speaker 2>surpass thirty one million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>What is that money supposed to be for? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I often make jokes. This is true, by the way, Peter.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, back in the day when when they actually

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<v Speaker 1>would allow Republicans or conservatives to go on CNN and

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<v Speaker 1>argue with people, I would point out to them about

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<v Speaker 1>the Hillary Clinton Foundation, which I know you've done a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of work in the Clinton Foundation, that at some

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<v Speaker 1>point paying someone eight hundred thousand dollars for a speech

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<v Speaker 1>is just a legalized bribe. The same way that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if I were if I were in public office and

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden my wife was a painter and

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<v Speaker 1>people were buying her paintings for a million dollars apiece

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<v Speaker 1>out of nowhere, that's a brillact, right, I mean, this

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<v Speaker 1>is this is very and Hunter Biden's actually doing that,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think is so amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's selling these paintings for fifty thousand dollars apiece.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the money that went from China to the

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<v Speaker 1>Biden interest supposed to be for? Like, what's the cover story,

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<v Speaker 1>if you will? And is it illegal? You know that's

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<v Speaker 1>always it's gross, But is it illegal? Yeah, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>great question. I'm not a lawyer on the legal part.

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<v Speaker 1>I would just say if it's not illegal. It should

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<v Speaker 1>be because I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, do we really want do we really want to

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<v Speaker 2>live in a country where the President of the United States, family,

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<v Speaker 2>the Secretary of Defense, the Senate Majority leader, their family

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<v Speaker 2>can go to China and just scoop up gobs of

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<v Speaker 2>money and they could say, well, it's not illegal, everything's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing to see here. I don't think anybody wants to

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<v Speaker 2>live in that country. So the legal part I'll set aside.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, if you look at these emails and

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the communications, this money is for quote

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<v Speaker 2>unquote joint ventures that never appear. So Henry Jao transfers

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<v Speaker 2>five million dollars to Hunter Biden in twenty fifteen to

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<v Speaker 2>four a quote unquote joint venture. Does a joint venture

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<v Speaker 2>ever emerge? No, it does not, And the money goes

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<v Speaker 2>into Hunter Biden's personal pocket. It does not go into

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<v Speaker 2>a business account. When the when the House Overside Committee

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<v Speaker 2>released their recent report, Hunter Biden's reaction when they disclosed that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, millions of dollars had flowed to him from

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<v Speaker 2>this energy company, he said that that money was a

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<v Speaker 2>good faith seed money. I don't know what that means,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't know why good faith seed money going

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<v Speaker 2>into a business ends up going into the pockets of

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<v Speaker 2>family members rather than actually of the underlying business itself.

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<v Speaker 2>So the subterfuge is joint ventures partnerships, but they never emerged,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't exist, and there, as you said, just to

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<v Speaker 2>cover for the transfer of money to the Biden family.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so effectively, if if I told somebody, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if my dad was the president, and I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a I'm a world class chocolate chip cookie maker,

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<v Speaker 1>and so my cookies are worth a million dollars each,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, people are supposed to accept that that's they're

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<v Speaker 1>paying for the cookies, right, joint venture Like, I've tried

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<v Speaker 1>to raise money for things before, I've been in I've

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<v Speaker 1>been in venture capital meetings. I've you know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>just said, hey, give me twenty million bucks for a

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<v Speaker 1>joint venture TBD, I mean, people would think you were

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<v Speaker 1>out of your mind. I mean they would think that

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<v Speaker 1>there was something truly wrong with you. But not if

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<v Speaker 1>you're Hunter Biden. And I think it's remarkable that this

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<v Speaker 1>is where we are and the pollution of both parties

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<v Speaker 1>that's occurred is really stunning. Peter, I want to come

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<v Speaker 1>back and ask you, what is the what is the

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<v Speaker 1>cleanup process to this? If we were willing to do

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<v Speaker 1>it as a country, what does that look like? But

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<v Speaker 1>So how do we clean up the mess of China

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<v Speaker 1>making so many of our elites red handed the title

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<v Speaker 1>of Peter's excellent book by paying them off in various ways?

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<v Speaker 1>What does that look like, Peter?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it begins with public shame. I think shame

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<v Speaker 2>still works. And I think you're starting to see already

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<v Speaker 2>that Apple and some of the big tech companies realize

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<v Speaker 2>that this sort of panda embrace that they've had is

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<v Speaker 2>not popular. So Apple's starting to ship shift its subproduction

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<v Speaker 2>of iPhones to India. That's going to take a while.

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<v Speaker 2>I think in Washington, d C. It begins with disclosure.

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<v Speaker 2>Think about it this way, Buck, Joe Biden has to

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<v Speaker 2>disclose every two hundred dollars campaign contribution that he gets,

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<v Speaker 2>he has to disclose every thousand dollars in ge stock

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever he has in investments. But if his son

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<v Speaker 2>goes off and secures private equity deals with the Chinese

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<v Speaker 2>government with twenty million dollars where he has no expertise,

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't do anything for the money, there's no disclosure requirement.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's absurd. So we have to change the disclosure laws.

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<v Speaker 2>I think if you have a if you are in government,

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<v Speaker 2>elected or unelected at senior level, you have to disclose

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<v Speaker 2>if your family members have commercial ties with China or

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<v Speaker 2>other state back companies. That's the beginning of the process.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think the Bidens will be a test case.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think the fact that Joe Biden had to

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<v Speaker 2>commit in twenty twenty to no more foreign deals, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think so far he seems to have honored that

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<v Speaker 2>is an indication that people know how unpopular this is.

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<v Speaker 2>So this Congressional Oversight Committee investigation of the Bidens is key,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's important it needs to be disclosed. When people

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<v Speaker 2>say is going to end in a prosecution, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if it is or not, but the American people

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<v Speaker 2>need to know what the first family's commercial ties are

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<v Speaker 2>to China and it needs to be pounded into them,

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<v Speaker 2>and that I think is the beginning of the process,

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<v Speaker 2>and I feel like it's starting to turn. I just

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<v Speaker 2>saw a Harvard poll that came out. It showed sixty

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<v Speaker 2>three percent of independence believe that the Biden's engaged in

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<v Speaker 2>illegal influence pedaling during his vice presidency. That's among independence.

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<v Speaker 2>Among Republicans is even higher. So it indicates that attitudes

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<v Speaker 2>are starting to shift on this. He's in it.

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<v Speaker 1>And also remarkable, I'm sure Peter that you haven't had

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<v Speaker 1>for your research on this, particularly as it pertains the Bidens.

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<v Speaker 1>But you point out, Mitch McConnell, Trump's a business interest,

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<v Speaker 1>but it doesn't you know, I don't think that leveraging

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<v Speaker 1>Ivanka's shoeline being made in China was going to change

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<v Speaker 1>the trajectory of Trump foreign policy, to be fair. But

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<v Speaker 1>I remember the Washington Post writing pieces about the emolument's clause.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you remember this too, right, like just the

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<v Speaker 1>notion that there were foreigners going to the Trump hotel

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<v Speaker 1>in DC to buy you know, the hanging bacon they

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<v Speaker 1>used to have there with a little blow towards I

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<v Speaker 1>won a few times and the cheeseburgers. That was a

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<v Speaker 1>violation of the emolument's clause. Joe Biden's son is a

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<v Speaker 1>bag man walking around the globe to the worst. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>our biggest Ukraine. Oh, cand you talk about that first.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't get into that, did you. Well what's the Ukraine?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we all know Barisma, but remind everybody would

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<v Speaker 1>have it with Barisma and Hunter.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the thing with Hunter is it's a veritable United

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<v Speaker 2>Nations of corrupt people. I mean it's China, it's Ukraine,

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<v Speaker 2>the energy company Barisma, which you know was giving him

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<v Speaker 2>a million dollars a year, something he didn't know about.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's also remember that he was working for Elena Boderina.

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<v Speaker 2>She sent three point five million dollars to him. She

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<v Speaker 2>was the wife of the former mayor of Moscow, who

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<v Speaker 2>was by the way, identified in Wiki leaks in a

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<v Speaker 2>State Department cable as somebody involved with Russian organized crime. So,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is the thing people have to realize.

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<v Speaker 2>With the Bidens, their quote unquote global business did not

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<v Speaker 2>include companies in Tokyo, companies in Berlin or London. They

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<v Speaker 2>went to Ukraine and China, which were the two countries

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<v Speaker 2>that by the way, were Joe Biden's portfolio as vice

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<v Speaker 2>president of the United States, and then they went to

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<v Speaker 2>Romania and Russia. This is where they found their business partners.

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<v Speaker 2>So it is a consistent example. And the notion that somehow, well,

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<v Speaker 2>that's Hunter Biden's business, Joe Biden was not involved is

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<v Speaker 2>also laughable because the target of the money was Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Biden via his son. That's why these foreign entities were

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<v Speaker 2>paying Hunter. And there's evidence in the laptop that, in fact,

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<v Speaker 2>Hunter Biden was providing funds to his father as vice president,

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<v Speaker 2>which is not legal. He was subsidizing his lifestyle. So

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden himself was a beneficiary of this foreign money

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<v Speaker 2>that was flowing to Hunter Biden. So you are quite

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<v Speaker 2>right this notion of double standards. I believed at the

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<v Speaker 2>beginning of the sort of Russia Gate collusion investigation it

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<v Speaker 2>ought to be looked at because it was so shocking,

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<v Speaker 2>and then we realized it was nothing behind it. But

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that Democrats in the left have resisted investigating

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<v Speaker 2>the bidens, to me is just appalling, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>it is going to really damage the reputation of the

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<v Speaker 2>mainstream media as this information continues to spill out.

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<v Speaker 1>The book is red handed how American elites get rich

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<v Speaker 1>helping China win. Peter Schwitzer always appreciate your work man.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for being here with us. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you happen to write another book, you need to

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<v Speaker 1>come back on the program and tell us about it.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you say?

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<v Speaker 2>I would love it, Buck, Thanks, it was a great time.

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<v Speaker 2>Thankks so much.