WEBVTT - 2019 Pac-12 Preview

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the solid Verbo. I'll that for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a man, I'm for I've heard so many players say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to be happy.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to be happy for Dake Edith State? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that woo woom? And Dan and Tye welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>the solid verbal boys and girls. My name is ty Hildebrand,

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<v Speaker 1>joining me as always over there in beautiful New York City,

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<v Speaker 1>the one, the only, the host of Sports Wars. Oh wondery.

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<v Speaker 1>Our good friend Dan Rubinstein, sir, how are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm great, Tye, and I have a favor to ask

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<v Speaker 2>you before we get into the Conference of Champions.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't expect that introduction, did you? No?

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't, and I loved hearing it. It was almost like

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<v Speaker 2>going on a late night talk show or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like they're like they plug the project right off the

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<v Speaker 2>bat from the new movie Adventureland. My favorite to ask, though,

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<v Speaker 2>is my wife Jody with and eye is have a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of work people over in let's say an hour

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<v Speaker 2>and a half. WHOA so in like a half hour

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<v Speaker 2>maybe forty five minutes? Yeah, forty five minutes. I need

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<v Speaker 2>you to remind me to remind my wife to preheat

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<v Speaker 2>the oven. And put in the charizo bean dip that

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<v Speaker 2>I just assembled that needs to go into the oven.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a two.

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<v Speaker 2>Factor because I didn't want to set my phone alarm

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<v Speaker 2>to go off in the middle of the show. But

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<v Speaker 2>if I think if we work it in organically, and

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<v Speaker 2>even if you're listening to the show, check with me

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<v Speaker 2>via email or Twitter or Instagram whatever to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>I did it, because that would be a real bummer

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<v Speaker 2>if I still hadn't put it in.

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<v Speaker 1>Shit, whenever this goes up, you should actually set your

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<v Speaker 1>phone alarm because when you do that, that'll give me

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<v Speaker 1>enough time to go through our ad read for the evening.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh great, okay, And I'll see if I can maintain

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<v Speaker 1>the pace, the feverish pace, no doubt, as we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about all things packed twelve that we're going to have going.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll see if I can build on that momentum in

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<v Speaker 1>time for you to get back from putting the bean

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<v Speaker 1>dip in the oven. That'd be amazing. Okay. Alarm is set, beautiful, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Of these events. Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>The big thing is we're gonna go out or we're

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<v Speaker 2>and we are literally cornered. If you want to tell

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<v Speaker 2>us how wrong we are about your team, we really are. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>a few quick points about TCU that I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>you missed. Hey, your NC State preview left me wanting

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more about their offensive line. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to be standing there munch and shiit contenders,

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<v Speaker 1>at Soliverble at gmail dot com. Oh that administrative stuff. Aside, Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>what are we talking about today? Reminding me to put

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<v Speaker 1>the dip in the oven, set the phone alarm. I

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<v Speaker 1>did set the phone alarm, right, But you're the two factor.

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<v Speaker 1>You're the two FA. That's how the cool tech people

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<v Speaker 1>or you do MFA two Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So we are talking about the Conference of Champions and that,

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<v Speaker 2>of course is the PAC twelve, which is not named ironically,

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<v Speaker 2>or at least was not at the time, and we

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<v Speaker 2>have broken the conference up into two divisions, and yes

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<v Speaker 2>it was us who broke it into the North and South,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're going to ask each other questions about what

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<v Speaker 2>we were curious about about the other person's specialty that

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<v Speaker 2>has been assigned. I have the North, which probably makes sense,

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<v Speaker 2>and you have the South, which I think also makes

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<v Speaker 2>sense given your love for a couple of teams there,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're just gonna hash things out. We're gonna sort

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<v Speaker 2>things out both with the Pac twelve's place in the

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<v Speaker 2>college football world the world at large, and figure out

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<v Speaker 2>who's good, who might not be so good, and what

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<v Speaker 2>is intriguing.

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<v Speaker 1>Where would you like to start. I want to start

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<v Speaker 1>with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to ask you the first question, Okay, because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think we've ever seen this level of and

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<v Speaker 2>hype is maybe too strong a word, but this level

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<v Speaker 2>attention preseason on Utah. I feel like every off season

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<v Speaker 2>the storyline is like, well, of course Utah is always

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<v Speaker 2>going to be solid, well always, you should never count

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<v Speaker 2>out Utah, and you know, week in week out, Utah

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<v Speaker 2>can beat anybody, but it's never gotten to the point

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<v Speaker 2>where they're.

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<v Speaker 1>They're the official favorite. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that the Media Day. The PAC twelve Media

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<v Speaker 2>Day voters said Utah is the favorite for the conference, right, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and so that is a heightened alert for the Utes,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I think we should because you're covering the South.

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<v Speaker 2>My question to you is if do you want to

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<v Speaker 2>play any sounds? Do you want to mash buttons?

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<v Speaker 1>OKA twelve? Oh yeah, get a little usc DG. I

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<v Speaker 1>like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, So my question is if Tyler Huntley,

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<v Speaker 2>the now healthy Tyler Huntley got hurt last year, looks

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<v Speaker 2>like he did last October before he got hurt, you

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<v Speaker 2>taught to me, appears to have the clear best quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>and defense combination in the conference. Sure, that doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 2>the best quarterback, that doesn't mean the best defense, but

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<v Speaker 2>the sum of those parts. Do you believe this tie?

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<v Speaker 2>That's one and two? What or who should ut fans

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<v Speaker 2>be the most concerned about, you know, just looking is

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<v Speaker 2>it their team? Is it other teams? Where's the concern?

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<v Speaker 2>And do you believe in that combination?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, so the concern for me is on defense because

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<v Speaker 1>they're losing their top four tacklers at linebacker Chase Hansen,

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<v Speaker 1>Cody Barton and safety Marquise Blair Coreyan Ballard right up

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<v Speaker 1>the heart of the defense. That's an issue in the secondary,

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<v Speaker 1>in particular, how you replace those two safeties I think

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<v Speaker 1>is of paramount point importance, impointance, important pointance. They're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>move Julian Blackman, who is a second team All Pack

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<v Speaker 1>twelver or to free safety from corner to fill in

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<v Speaker 1>for Ballard, so they've got an answer there. They've also

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<v Speaker 1>got another senior they can plug in for Blair. They've

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<v Speaker 1>also got an All Pack twelve cornerback in the form

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<v Speaker 1>of Jalen Johnson, who I think bolsters that secondary well.

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<v Speaker 1>So even though there is some turnover there, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable with the answers, and as a whole, it's hard

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<v Speaker 1>not to feel comfortable with Kyle Whittingham coaching the defensive

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<v Speaker 1>side of the ball, especially when you look at what

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<v Speaker 1>he's got along that defensive front. He said it's the

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<v Speaker 1>deepest front he's ever had. Just about the entire two

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<v Speaker 1>deeped In is back from a year ago. He feels

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<v Speaker 1>like he's got eleven guys that he can rotate in,

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<v Speaker 1>not the least of which is Bradley and a Max

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<v Speaker 1>to Boy. Bradley and Ay, he had a whopping fifty

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<v Speaker 1>two quarterback pressures last year, including eighteen sacks plus hits.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a stat from our friends over at Pro Football Focus.

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<v Speaker 1>Up the middle very strong to All Pac twelve vers

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty eighteen. It's a recurring theme on this defense.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of All Pack twelve talent, which is going

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<v Speaker 1>to bode well for them. So that being said, if

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<v Speaker 1>my concern is up the spine of that defense and

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<v Speaker 1>not with its offense, that's a new place for Utah

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<v Speaker 1>to be, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Utah has reached the point where they just

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<v Speaker 2>they get the benefit of the doubt. They defensively, Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they get the benefit of the doubt. So I know

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<v Speaker 2>your concerns are at you know up the middle, that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, inside linebacker and safety, but there's very little

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<v Speaker 2>when you look at what Utah has done on defense

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<v Speaker 2>this past really decade. I'm looking at the numbers of

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<v Speaker 2>this past decade. They have not allowed more than two

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<v Speaker 2>points per drive. This you know, since two thousand it's

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<v Speaker 2>more than a decades since two thousand and seven. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>so when you look at Utah, they just put together

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<v Speaker 2>at worst, okay defenses, they've really never let things go

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<v Speaker 2>offensively different thing. We can talk about that, but they are.

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<v Speaker 2>The Utah defense is among the very few things in

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<v Speaker 2>the Pac twelve where I just shrug and say they'll

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<v Speaker 2>be fine.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll be fine. To the larger point though, Yeah, for

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<v Speaker 1>as long as you for as long as I can remember,

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<v Speaker 1>the big question going into the season has always had

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<v Speaker 1>something to do with Utah's offense. This year, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>without offensive questions, mainly because the line has some new faces,

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<v Speaker 1>But the biggest questions are definitely on defense. And as

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<v Speaker 1>I said, linebacker they got Phil Spots and to a

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<v Speaker 1>lesser degree maybe the defensive backfield. I just think you

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<v Speaker 1>need to look at the full picture going into the season,

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<v Speaker 1>where Utah is coming from and where they are now.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year, this is a team that had to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with both Tyler Huntley and Zach Moss going down for

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<v Speaker 1>the year due to injury, and still they won nine games. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Now both those guys are back this year, as well

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<v Speaker 1>as Britton Covey, Jalen Dixon the top four other pass

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<v Speaker 1>catchers from a year ago. Sure, the Lions got a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of turnover there with two new guys coming in,

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<v Speaker 1>but I feel really good about this team, mainly because

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<v Speaker 1>the schedule is so favorable. It's a good team. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>don't get me wrong. They miss both of Oregon and Stanford.

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<v Speaker 1>Their road games are at USC and Washington, which will

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<v Speaker 1>be tricky, but honestly, everything else seems pretty workable. If

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<v Speaker 1>Utah and stay healthy, veteran offense, really good defensive front

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to give teams fits. I'm looking at Utah

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<v Speaker 1>this year and I'm thinking, all right, the over under

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<v Speaker 1>is nine and a half wins. Yeah, that's very tasty

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<v Speaker 1>to me, Dan, that is extremely tasty. I could envision

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<v Speaker 1>a realistic scenario where I don't feel like I'm being

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<v Speaker 1>over the top, and eleven and one, even twelve and

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<v Speaker 1>zero is possible. Who is Utah's offensive coordinator? Is Andy Ludwig? Oh? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Who is Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>At Wisconsin and everywhere else he leaves and people just exhale.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to put a positive spin on things, Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be the guy who's been in

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<v Speaker 1>sports media so long that everything is viewed with the

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<v Speaker 1>tint of skepticism, So I understand and not bring up

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Ludwig. Well here here, let me ask you this.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were looking.

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<v Speaker 2>At Utah and you're like, oh, Bradley and Nay in

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<v Speaker 2>this defensive line and oh my gosh, year over year

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<v Speaker 2>they keep replacing guys in the secondary and at linebacker

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<v Speaker 2>and they just you know, they maintain that level. And

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<v Speaker 2>now they've hired Brian Van Gorder. Are you saying to yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>Utah will be fine? Like with Whittingham does develop and recruiting,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not you see, it's personal to me because he

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<v Speaker 2>was at Oregon for two or three years when they

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<v Speaker 2>were not good at all and super predictable in offense.

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<v Speaker 2>My concern with Utah is they have everything in place

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<v Speaker 2>to win the conference and they become a supermodel version

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<v Speaker 2>of cal where the offense just lets them down, lets

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<v Speaker 2>down a really nice defense. Now I know, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they have the running back, they have a healthy quarterback,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm the one making the point that the combination

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<v Speaker 2>of quarterback and defense. If Tyler Huntley looks like he

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<v Speaker 2>looked in October, granted with Troy Taylor at offensive coordinator,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was Stanford. He looked great against USC

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<v Speaker 2>UCLA teams that, to varying degrees, had up and down seasons,

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<v Speaker 2>but he did what good quarterbacks should do against those teams,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was very, very good, and so I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit worried. Even though Brittin Covey's there for his

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<v Speaker 2>five hundredth year, what feels like for Utah. I think

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<v Speaker 2>he went on an LDS mission, But I'm worried that

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<v Speaker 2>we are not going to get the creativity to max

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<v Speaker 2>out the offense that's that's available to the Utes. So

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<v Speaker 2>I would actually go under. I would go nine to

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<v Speaker 2>three and still with a chance to win the conference,

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<v Speaker 2>but I just I can't fully get behind that offense

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<v Speaker 2>doing enough to go like eleven and one. Yeah, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>well that's you. Do you agree with the combination? Is like,

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<v Speaker 2>do you think it's kJ Costello and Stanford? Do you

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<v Speaker 2>think it's Jacobeeson and Washington? Who is the best quarterback defense?

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<v Speaker 2>Combo Herbert and Oregon? Probably not, Well, we'll have to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about probably not Chase Garber's.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, And it's probably not kJ Costello and Stanford.

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<v Speaker 1>Stanford's defense was a mess last year. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>they'll be better, but yeah, I think Eason, it could

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<v Speaker 1>be Easton and Washington, but Washington's a ton of turnover

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<v Speaker 1>on defense, So I don't know. Maybe it is Utah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the best known QB defense quantity right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, well we had to bring up got

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<v Speaker 1>to bring up Andy Ludwig if we're going to do

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<v Speaker 1>a fair preview. But I'm very bullish on Utah. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you are too. All right, Well, let's move on.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about Washington. We just mentioned they've got some turnover.

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<v Speaker 1>Nine new faces on defense, four on offense, thirteen in total.

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<v Speaker 1>That of course includes their quarterback. They're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>starting Jacob Eason this season. Maybe, maybe, presumably is twenty

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen going to feel like a rebel the year for

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<v Speaker 1>Washington or do you think they've gotten to a point

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<v Speaker 1>where it's just going to be more like a reload.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's much closer to a reload. And the

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<v Speaker 2>very few benefits of the doubt units in this conference

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<v Speaker 2>also includes Washington's defense. They lose all four quote starters,

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<v Speaker 2>even though a lot of guys rotate in that secondary.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Hunter Brian has been playing there for a while,

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<v Speaker 2>Elijah Molden played a good amount, and that secondary is

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<v Speaker 2>and has been incredible. So the benefit of the doubt

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<v Speaker 2>goes to Jimmy Lake and Pete Wakowski, the guys that

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<v Speaker 2>run that defense, and I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>More worried about what they look like upfront.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, they've recruited well there they

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<v Speaker 2>have guys who've played linebacker. Is going to be tricky

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<v Speaker 2>because losing Ben Burke Curven who was a machine among

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<v Speaker 2>others at linebacker, is going to be different. But there's

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<v Speaker 2>enough promise up front, and the recruiting has been so

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<v Speaker 2>good in the back and defense and placing defense is

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<v Speaker 2>so much about effort and buy in that I just

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<v Speaker 2>I give Washington the benefit of the doubt on defense.

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<v Speaker 2>My big question is how different will they really look

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<v Speaker 2>from where they were last year, which is the offense

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<v Speaker 2>more letting the defense down in that alley oop in

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, Jake Browning had some duds cal Colorado

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<v Speaker 2>Oregon was not consistently a nice game for him on

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<v Speaker 2>the road, even though he made a couple of big throws.

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<v Speaker 2>And so Jacob Eason is you normally hear when a

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback is popping a camper're like, oh, this guy special,

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<v Speaker 2>and he doesn't have to be special, but you normally

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<v Speaker 2>hear like, oh, yeah, this is definitely the dude. He's

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<v Speaker 2>a cut above, and everything that is said about Jacob

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<v Speaker 2>Eason in the quarterback battle, it's well, you know, he

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<v Speaker 2>made some big throws, but so did Dylan Morris, so

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<v Speaker 2>did Jake Hayner, so did Jacob Sermon and really hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>separated himself and over strain. They're like, hey, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>really I don't know, he's not really a cut above,

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<v Speaker 2>and so even if he starts, I'd be worried about

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<v Speaker 2>the consistency issues, especially downfield. And I like Air Fuller

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<v Speaker 2>and Ty Jones Hunter Bryan is back very good at

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<v Speaker 2>tight end. No more Miles Gaskin, but I still like

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<v Speaker 2>the running backs there. The line should be very very good.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a clear strength. But I'm worried about not

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<v Speaker 2>hearing the oh yeah, this guy's the guy about Jacob

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<v Speaker 2>eeson right, And that's troubling to me. So defensively, much

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<v Speaker 2>closer to a reload, just because of how well they've

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<v Speaker 2>recruited and how well you know, you look at who

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<v Speaker 2>they would lose in twenty eleven, twenty twelve, twenty thirteen,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty fourteen. I know it's different coaches part of that time,

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<v Speaker 2>but year over here they just keep bringing back studs

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<v Speaker 2>and developing him into that system. So last year they

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<v Speaker 2>go what nine and four, A kind of a disappointing

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<v Speaker 2>year given the experience that they had, but I want

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<v Speaker 2>to see them get better. Situationally, they really won with

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<v Speaker 2>turnover margin and discipline.

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<v Speaker 1>I am.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the best case right now for Washington is

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<v Speaker 2>Easton is really good, which I think is possible given

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<v Speaker 2>his arm. They're better downfield, they're more creative in the

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<v Speaker 2>run game, as Miles Gaskins sort of took a step

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<v Speaker 2>back last year, and they go ten and two or

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<v Speaker 2>eleven and one because the schedule's great, the schedules really

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<v Speaker 2>nice BYU feels a little bit trappy on the road

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<v Speaker 2>early on. I think it's a look ahead before the

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<v Speaker 2>USC and on the road against Stanford, but they get

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<v Speaker 2>a buye between Oregon and Utah and they miss what

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<v Speaker 2>I think is going to be a pretty feisty UCLA team.

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<v Speaker 2>So I feel pretty good about Washington. I think their

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<v Speaker 2>bottom if they bought them out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an eight and four year. It's a Jersey mix

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<v Speaker 1>kind of year for them. What does that mean? Will

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<v Speaker 1>they be a sub.

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<v Speaker 2>Above You can't just make that joke and not go

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<v Speaker 2>out and sell the sponsorship yourself to a sandwich company,

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<v Speaker 2>not an official sponsor, But do you think they're closer

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<v Speaker 2>to their best case or their worst case?

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<v Speaker 1>Given? I mean, you didn't deep dive Washington, But what

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<v Speaker 1>is your feeling? Well, my feeling is that Chris Peterson.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of what he's done is obviously bring Washington to

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<v Speaker 1>a level of prominence that they were hoping for, but

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<v Speaker 1>also raise the floor. And granted there are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be thirteen new faces, but I think those new faces

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be pretty darn good. I am worried

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<v Speaker 1>about the running game a little bit. Losing Miles Gaskins.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree took a step back last I love Salvon Ahamed.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Ahmed. I do. He's got better speed in

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<v Speaker 1>the open field, but I don't know if he's got

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<v Speaker 1>the patience of Gaskin. That's something that they've got to

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<v Speaker 1>try and train into him, and so I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious to see how the running game goes. Running

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<v Speaker 1>game important for first time starting quarterback or a new

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<v Speaker 1>starting quarterback I guess on a first time for the

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Huskies here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm curious to see if teams employ a very

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<v Speaker 2>similar strategy to what happened last season, which like, just

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<v Speaker 2>make Jake Browning beatch you, just making beatch you because

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<v Speaker 2>he regressed. As much as I didn't want it to

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<v Speaker 2>be the case, I was always impressed with him from

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<v Speaker 2>where he was in twenty sixteen. I know he had

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<v Speaker 2>injury issues and his receivers changed omhere, John Ross, things

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<v Speaker 2>like that, but from where he was in twenty sixteen

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<v Speaker 2>to how he finished as a senior, there was I

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<v Speaker 2>think definitely some appointment and Washington fans would probably be

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<v Speaker 2>the first to tell you that.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, to your point here and to my point,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess about raising the floor, the line is huge. Line.

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<v Speaker 1>The line is incredible for Washington. That takes a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the heat off the quarterback and the running game too. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>it allows those positions to excel.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think Trey Adams and Nick Harris are you know,

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<v Speaker 2>among the best duos on the offensive line in the conference.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure. So you're feeling pretty bullish on Washington again,

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<v Speaker 1>I think so. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think just situationally, the fact that their schedule is

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<v Speaker 2>what it is, they don't have an Auburn early on

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<v Speaker 2>the schedule, you know, works out nicely and they'll have

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<v Speaker 2>time to work in new guys on defense. I'm curious

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<v Speaker 2>about the line because that's where they've really whether it

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<v Speaker 2>was Greg Gaines or vite Vea, all sorts of guys

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<v Speaker 2>that really succeeded, especially inside. That's what I'm most curious about.

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<v Speaker 2>What does Washington look like inside on the line and

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<v Speaker 2>inside in the linebacking core because that those guys have

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<v Speaker 2>been the difference maker these past couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let me stay with you then, before you have

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<v Speaker 1>to put your dip in the oven, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about I want to talk about your Oregon Ducks. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have I don't have a deep, prodding, thrusting

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<v Speaker 1>question about the orgle WHOA, that's my territory. I know

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<v Speaker 1>it is, but Oregon is your territory and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to limit your answer here. So okay, I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to be broad with this question and just ask you

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<v Speaker 1>where does Oregon need to improve the most. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>think they're going to be able to do it? Well?

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<v Speaker 2>I answer actually changed in the last couple of days.

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<v Speaker 2>So the key improvement area for Oregon is the combination

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<v Speaker 2>of creative play calling and receivers improving and part of

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<v Speaker 2>that receiver improvement is guys that are new to the program,

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<v Speaker 2>either freshmen or transfers. So Michah Pittman is the big name.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the younger brother of Michael Pittman, a starting receiver

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<v Speaker 2>USC and son of you know NFL great quote unquote

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Pittman, who is a running back for a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of different teams. He has come in and I think

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<v Speaker 2>he's already on the second team and I think he'll

0:22:05.760 --> 0:22:07.960
<v Speaker 2>work his way into the lineup pretty consistently. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>a nice addition. And then the bane of your Penn

0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:16.480
<v Speaker 2>State existence at receiver, Juwan Johnson. Yes, he steps into

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<v Speaker 2>the fold. I don't know exactly how he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be used, if he'll be used in the same way.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he'll be looked at as a red zone target.

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<v Speaker 2>I think primarily because of his size, but he certainly knew.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I feel great about bringing in

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<v Speaker 2>a receiver to a core that had some drop issues,

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<v Speaker 2>with a receiver who for sure had some drop.

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely had some drop issues going to Yes, So.

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<v Speaker 2>That combination of figuring out the creativity of finding seven

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<v Speaker 2>yards and getting to second and three finding eleven yards

0:22:45.200 --> 0:22:47.600
<v Speaker 2>because a lot of times justin Herbert locked in on guys.

0:22:47.680 --> 0:22:49.600
<v Speaker 2>Dylan Mitchell was the clear best and he's not back,

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<v Speaker 2>he's in the NFL now, and he.

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<v Speaker 1>Would go he would throw the ball deep.

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<v Speaker 2>He has this giant arm and he would he go deep,

0:22:55.160 --> 0:22:57.600
<v Speaker 2>or he would fire it in for something short or

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<v Speaker 2>try to squeeze something in intermediate. And I want there

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<v Speaker 2>to be some sort of creativity like they showed last

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<v Speaker 2>year later on in the season Arizona State, UCLA, whatever,

0:23:06.960 --> 0:23:09.720
<v Speaker 2>where there were some swing passes, there was motion, there

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<v Speaker 2>was play action, and the better that they got doing that,

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<v Speaker 2>the less they were running it out of the pistol.

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<v Speaker 2>And I said a few weeks ago that I felt

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<v Speaker 2>Oregon had a nine win pistol ceiling. If they're really

0:23:21.280 --> 0:23:23.680
<v Speaker 2>leaning on that pistol, I think I feel that way.

0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:26.359
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's a little bit harsh. I think if they

0:23:26.400 --> 0:23:28.720
<v Speaker 2>don't get to nine wins, it'll be a combination of

0:23:28.760 --> 0:23:32.240
<v Speaker 2>the pistol in a pretty tricky schedule. But at the

0:23:32.280 --> 0:23:34.159
<v Speaker 2>top they're in good shape with Herbert, who has the

0:23:34.160 --> 0:23:36.840
<v Speaker 2>potential to be the best in the conference and elite nationally.

0:23:37.320 --> 0:23:39.200
<v Speaker 2>Running back is by committee. They don't have like the

0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:42.240
<v Speaker 2>Belkow dude like they had in years past receiver. I've

0:23:42.240 --> 0:23:44.360
<v Speaker 2>mentioned the offensive line might be the best in the country.

0:23:44.600 --> 0:23:46.080
<v Speaker 2>If it's not the best in the country, it's in

0:23:46.119 --> 0:23:49.320
<v Speaker 2>that group. There's a ton of experience. You know, Pinay

0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:52.760
<v Speaker 2>Swell might be a top ten twelve pick when he's

0:23:52.760 --> 0:23:54.200
<v Speaker 2>eligible to come out at left tackle.

0:23:54.680 --> 0:23:56.280
<v Speaker 1>Defensively, I think they're going to get better. I think

0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:56.639
<v Speaker 1>they're going to.

0:23:56.640 --> 0:23:59.320
<v Speaker 2>Get more unpredictable. They add what it was, number one,

0:23:59.400 --> 0:24:01.600
<v Speaker 2>number two red root in the country in Cavon Thibodeaux,

0:24:02.240 --> 0:24:04.719
<v Speaker 2>who at least will be a rushing a rush end

0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:08.919
<v Speaker 2>specialist type linebacker. Their experience, they're okay Troy Dies, you know,

0:24:08.960 --> 0:24:11.800
<v Speaker 2>he's been there now seventeen years and he should lead

0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:14.239
<v Speaker 2>the team in tackles once again. And they're improving in

0:24:14.280 --> 0:24:18.640
<v Speaker 2>the secondary schedule though, like I mentioned, open against Auburn,

0:24:19.359 --> 0:24:22.720
<v Speaker 2>they're at Stanford this year. At Washington, they host Washington State,

0:24:22.800 --> 0:24:25.840
<v Speaker 2>They go to USC, who they missed last year, and

0:24:25.920 --> 0:24:28.040
<v Speaker 2>a lot of that is like I think it's Washington,

0:24:28.160 --> 0:24:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Washington Schools and USC are back to back to back

0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:33.400
<v Speaker 2>in October and early November, so it's a rough there's

0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:38.280
<v Speaker 2>no stretch of ease for Oregon. So the best case

0:24:38.280 --> 0:24:40.640
<v Speaker 2>scenario is, you know, they go ten and two, Justin

0:24:40.640 --> 0:24:43.200
<v Speaker 2>Herberts and Assassin, the receivers improve, the offense takes those

0:24:43.240 --> 0:24:46.200
<v Speaker 2>open yards. It gets creative. Worst cases, they go eight

0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:48.840
<v Speaker 2>and four again and the offense stagnates. They're not that

0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:51.800
<v Speaker 2>great on the road, the defense is inconsistent. So I

0:24:51.880 --> 0:24:54.080
<v Speaker 2>have them squarely between those at nine and three.

0:24:54.720 --> 0:24:56.160
<v Speaker 1>It'd be a good year, though. Would you be happy

0:24:56.240 --> 0:24:59.600
<v Speaker 1>with that? I think so.

0:25:00.320 --> 0:25:02.840
<v Speaker 2>I think so, with the potential depending on who they

0:25:02.840 --> 0:25:04.480
<v Speaker 2>lose to. If they lose the Auburn game, so you're

0:25:04.520 --> 0:25:06.320
<v Speaker 2>only losing two Pac twelve games, so you can get

0:25:06.320 --> 0:25:10.400
<v Speaker 2>into a pretty big Bowl game. I just I'm too

0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:13.560
<v Speaker 2>concerned about the offense and what it looks like on

0:25:13.600 --> 0:25:15.480
<v Speaker 2>the road in big spots, and what it looks like

0:25:16.160 --> 0:25:18.560
<v Speaker 2>down four with three to eighteen left. I'm not going

0:25:18.640 --> 0:25:21.000
<v Speaker 2>to be nearly as confident in this Oregon offense as

0:25:21.040 --> 0:25:22.879
<v Speaker 2>I was in years past when it was working. So

0:25:23.480 --> 0:25:26.720
<v Speaker 2>that's where I think the losses come from, just offensive

0:25:26.720 --> 0:25:27.600
<v Speaker 2>disorder at times.

0:25:27.640 --> 0:25:30.639
<v Speaker 1>I have a more important question, though, Okay, can I

0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:33.080
<v Speaker 1>still make the joke that Oregon's a finesse team because

0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:37.360
<v Speaker 1>you know Mario Chrystobaul has been doing this thing where

0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:39.360
<v Speaker 1>he's trying to be a little bit more physical than

0:25:39.400 --> 0:25:40.400
<v Speaker 1>previous regimes.

0:25:41.440 --> 0:25:44.880
<v Speaker 2>It would be you can criticize Oregon for a lot,

0:25:44.960 --> 0:25:46.720
<v Speaker 2>and I don't think they were ever a finesse team,

0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:49.679
<v Speaker 2>but you can criticize them for a lot or just

0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:54.200
<v Speaker 2>be snarky about them for a lot. Finesse running straight

0:25:54.480 --> 0:25:56.480
<v Speaker 2>between a center and a guard, or between a guard

0:25:56.480 --> 0:25:59.760
<v Speaker 2>and a tackle, between the tackles insisting on running down

0:25:59.840 --> 0:26:02.479
<v Speaker 2>him with a shotgun or a pistol look, and a

0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:06.520
<v Speaker 2>running back directly behind the quarterback running straight downhill doesn't

0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:10.200
<v Speaker 2>feel finasy to me. Damn, I know, I know, we'll

0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:12.639
<v Speaker 2>have to find a new team. So that's where I'm

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:15.800
<v Speaker 2>at with Oregon. I'm the thing I'm most excited and

0:26:15.840 --> 0:26:18.080
<v Speaker 2>curious for is actually what they look like on defense.

0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:18.800
<v Speaker 1>There's nothing.

0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:21.479
<v Speaker 2>There's not much that I feel like they can evolve

0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:24.639
<v Speaker 2>to offensively with the same people and the same coordinator.

0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:27.920
<v Speaker 2>But they hire a new coordinator in Andy Avolos from

0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:30.879
<v Speaker 2>Poise State, who I think ran a really interesting defense there.

0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:32.760
<v Speaker 2>I think you're gonna see a lot of pre snap

0:26:33.480 --> 0:26:37.040
<v Speaker 2>confusion and unpredictability and I'm I'm all for that. I

0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:39.600
<v Speaker 2>love that kind of thing. So I'm excited to see what.

0:26:39.560 --> 0:26:41.600
<v Speaker 1>They do there. Fair enough for what do you want

0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:44.760
<v Speaker 1>to go next? All right, let's go to.

0:26:47.480 --> 0:26:50.119
<v Speaker 2>I guess we should talk about USC, right, Yeah, we should,

0:26:50.640 --> 0:26:54.800
<v Speaker 2>let's talk about USC. I'm actually so a lot of

0:26:54.800 --> 0:26:56.920
<v Speaker 2>the attention has been on what are they gonna look

0:26:56.960 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 2>like as an air raid team? What are they going

0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:01.800
<v Speaker 2>to look like? You know, as they get a little

0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:05.840
<v Speaker 2>bit healthier, they're replacing their secondary on defense. If the

0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:08.439
<v Speaker 2>Trojans are going to take and this I think is

0:27:08.440 --> 0:27:10.160
<v Speaker 2>a fair question, if they're going to take a dramatic

0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:14.679
<v Speaker 2>step in either direction, which group will be the cause?

0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:19.919
<v Speaker 2>So if they get well, I'm saying even more specifically, okay,

0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:21.880
<v Speaker 2>what position group will.

0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:22.280
<v Speaker 1>Be the reason?

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:27.520
<v Speaker 2>So if the most likely dramatic improvement or regression will

0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:31.160
<v Speaker 2>be because of what position group, I would say, there's

0:27:31.200 --> 0:27:33.919
<v Speaker 2>my terreso alarm. So you're having you got the alarm

0:27:34.000 --> 0:27:36.200
<v Speaker 2>right now? I have the alarm right now, I'm texting

0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:39.600
<v Speaker 2>Jody with an eye. Can you preheat the oven to

0:27:40.040 --> 0:27:42.080
<v Speaker 2>four hundred degrees please?

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So if USC takes a step forward, what specific

0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:53.119
<v Speaker 1>group is responsible for it, Yeah, I think or back

0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:56.240
<v Speaker 1>or back or back. Yeah, I think I'm gonna say

0:27:56.280 --> 0:28:00.200
<v Speaker 1>the offensive line because it has genuinely been the week

0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:04.160
<v Speaker 1>spot for USC the last couple of years, and as

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:09.199
<v Speaker 1>we just got done mentioning with the Oregon Ducks, with

0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:14.119
<v Speaker 1>the Washington Huskies, even with Utah to some degree, the

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:18.399
<v Speaker 1>line can paper over a lot of sins and you

0:28:18.520 --> 0:28:21.399
<v Speaker 1>need to be strong in the trenches. I think with

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:25.399
<v Speaker 1>USC it also has a direct impact on the running game. Now.

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:26.639
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the running game is going to

0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:29.639
<v Speaker 1>look like this year, being so maybe they are switching

0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:32.440
<v Speaker 1>to more of an Air Rady type system, but they've

0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:36.280
<v Speaker 1>got so much talent at running back. Wasn't Stephen Carr

0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:36.920
<v Speaker 1>a five star?

0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:40.560
<v Speaker 2>Stephen Carr was a five star the vave Malapi. I've

0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:43.640
<v Speaker 2>definitely got that pronounced wrong. He was like an Army

0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:46.040
<v Speaker 2>All American because he was I'd remember him because he

0:28:46.080 --> 0:28:47.480
<v Speaker 2>was committed to Oregon for a long time.

0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:52.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just like we haven't seen any breakouts at

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:55.840
<v Speaker 1>that running back position, despite the fact that USC seems

0:28:55.880 --> 0:29:00.880
<v Speaker 1>to always have five star talent since the Texas Tesla. Right, Yeah,

0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:03.720
<v Speaker 1>that's right. So I'm going to start with the line,

0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:06.040
<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to work backwards. I do want to

0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:09.520
<v Speaker 1>address the question though, that you mentioned about the air

0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:11.880
<v Speaker 1>raid and the offense. I just I look at this team.

0:29:11.880 --> 0:29:13.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's a whole lot of mystery here.

0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:17.480
<v Speaker 1>The offense needs to get better. Anyone who follows USC

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:20.080
<v Speaker 1>knows that the offense needs to get better. Clay Helton,

0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:22.680
<v Speaker 1>he knew it too. M h. He's not a dummy.

0:29:22.720 --> 0:29:25.840
<v Speaker 1>That's why he fired T Martin. He brought in Cliff Kingsbury. Cliffee,

0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:28.760
<v Speaker 1>of course, was there for what that month month in

0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Manhattan Beach, had a lot of fun. Then he went

0:29:31.840 --> 0:29:34.200
<v Speaker 1>to the Arizona Cardinals. Now they bring in Graham Harrell

0:29:34.560 --> 0:29:38.400
<v Speaker 1>from North Texas, which I think is an equally aggressive move.

0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:43.520
<v Speaker 1>That definitely it definitely, let's put this way, signals some

0:29:43.560 --> 0:29:45.200
<v Speaker 1>sort of new philosophy on offense.

0:29:45.680 --> 0:29:49.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but Cliff Kingsbury was wildly successful as an offensive

0:29:49.240 --> 0:29:53.200
<v Speaker 2>mind than Graham Harrell. Okay, interesting, intriguing, but.

0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I think Cliff was way more proven. I think that

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:58.200
<v Speaker 1>was more aggressed. Definitely more proven for sure. Okay, The

0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:01.440
<v Speaker 1>question now is what's the realist expectation going from T

0:30:01.640 --> 0:30:05.400
<v Speaker 1>Martin to Graham Harrell. Again more of an air raid guy.

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Doesn't mean he's not going to find some hybrid version

0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:10.960
<v Speaker 1>that works for USC, but there's certainly going to be

0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:15.480
<v Speaker 1>a transition here, and the question everyone's asking is will

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:19.480
<v Speaker 1>it click fast enough to meet the expectations to save

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Clay Helton's job. For me, I really like JT. Daniels

0:30:23.760 --> 0:30:26.160
<v Speaker 1>at quarterback. He looked really good look the real deal

0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:28.920
<v Speaker 1>last year, and I think he's got a solid wide

0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:32.000
<v Speaker 1>receiver corps that should be primed for a big year.

0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:34.440
<v Speaker 1>Did you think he looked really good last year?

0:30:34.480 --> 0:30:36.560
<v Speaker 2>I thought he did. I thought he showed enough promise.

0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:38.840
<v Speaker 2>Do you know why you thought that? I'm going to

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:39.720
<v Speaker 2>tell you why you thought that?

0:30:40.280 --> 0:30:41.680
<v Speaker 1>Has he looked he looked good.

0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:44.320
<v Speaker 2>Against Notre Dame, and that's probably when you watched him

0:30:44.320 --> 0:30:45.000
<v Speaker 2>most closely.

0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:46.880
<v Speaker 1>I still think he's got a ton of talent, and

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:51.160
<v Speaker 1>I feel I feel good about JT. Daniels, and I

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:53.440
<v Speaker 1>think the receiving corps has a ton of talent with

0:30:53.480 --> 0:30:56.239
<v Speaker 1>Michael Pittman Junior and Tyler Vaughns. He's still there and

0:30:56.840 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 1>they've got They've got talent up and down the depth

0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:01.880
<v Speaker 1>chart at wide receipt. Still no word if they're going

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:05.360
<v Speaker 1>to let Bruce McCoy play right, which in case will.

0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 2>Be other transfer back is eligible at corner, but I

0:31:07.800 --> 0:31:09.360
<v Speaker 2>haven't heard about brew yet.

0:31:09.240 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 1>So we'll find out. The point is here, they've got

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 1>talent at wide receiver. If they're going to run more

0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:17.360
<v Speaker 1>air raid stuff, presumably that would be a position that

0:31:17.360 --> 0:31:20.080
<v Speaker 1>that would have a big year. It's just I don't

0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:23.720
<v Speaker 1>know what it's going to look like, and that bothers me.

0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:27.320
<v Speaker 1>I like the talent, but we've liked talent at USC

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 1>for a long time. The line has certainly underwhelmed. That's

0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 1>why I mentioned them first. And the running back core.

0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:41.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what to expect there right. Defensively, defensively,

0:31:41.720 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 1>that front has to have an outsized impact here because

0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:48.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm comparing the secondary to Gumby Dan because they're thin

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:54.720
<v Speaker 1>and green. Oh okay, I think a lot comes down

0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:57.320
<v Speaker 1>to this offense. Is that fair? They've recruited really well

0:31:57.360 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 1>in the secondary, though, they have, but they're thin and

0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 1>they're they've been shaky though. Yeah, you're right, they're young.

0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:07.320
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I think the offensive line will decide things in

0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 2>an interesting way, although part of me also thinks they're

0:32:10.520 --> 0:32:13.000
<v Speaker 2>going to design this offense around getting the ball out

0:32:13.040 --> 0:32:16.360
<v Speaker 2>of whoever the starting quarterback's hand is pretty quickly, and

0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:19.239
<v Speaker 2>so to mitigate any of the worries there, because they

0:32:19.240 --> 0:32:21.600
<v Speaker 2>get rid of the offensive line coach last year who

0:32:21.640 --> 0:32:23.640
<v Speaker 2>was there for a little while, and so I think

0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:27.239
<v Speaker 2>Tim Drevno is sliding from running backs coach to he's

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:29.520
<v Speaker 2>an old Harbaugh guy too, back to the offensive line,

0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:32.720
<v Speaker 2>which is where he was before. So it appears that

0:32:32.720 --> 0:32:35.360
<v Speaker 2>they're going to have a better coaching and more solidified

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:39.920
<v Speaker 2>situation there on the line. The Mike jinks Hire is

0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:40.520
<v Speaker 2>interesting to me.

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 1>They hire him.

0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 2>He was a head coach, but he was at Texas

0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Tech under Cliff Kingsbury as a running backs coach and

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:46.600
<v Speaker 2>did a really nice job with the running backs for

0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:49.520
<v Speaker 2>the Red Raiders. So it's interesting to me to see

0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:52.719
<v Speaker 2>who shines from that running backs group from an all

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:57.560
<v Speaker 2>purpose standpoint. But even if the line isn't great, if

0:32:57.560 --> 0:32:59.040
<v Speaker 2>they're getting the ball out of the hit, they're getting

0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:02.440
<v Speaker 2>it to whoever you mentioned, Michael Pittman and Tyler Vaughn's

0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:04.520
<v Speaker 2>and Devin Williams and all these guys that are really

0:33:04.560 --> 0:33:09.760
<v Speaker 2>really talented and they're just getting to them immediately. It

0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:11.480
<v Speaker 2>feels like they're gonna be in a much better place.

0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:14.040
<v Speaker 2>They were awful on third down last year. Yeah, so

0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:16.960
<v Speaker 2>if they just if they can pump out six seven

0:33:17.040 --> 0:33:19.720
<v Speaker 2>yards on first down more often than not. There they

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:21.960
<v Speaker 2>had like the eightieth or ninetieth best offense in the

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:24.160
<v Speaker 2>country last year. It was We're going to be immediately

0:33:24.200 --> 0:33:26.640
<v Speaker 2>a top twenty or thirty offense just from doing that.

0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Can I tell you the biggest fly in this college

0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:35.320
<v Speaker 1>football ointment, oh place. This schedule is unrelenting. Whoa, it's

0:33:35.360 --> 0:33:39.960
<v Speaker 1>such a big start. It is unrelenting. They've got Stanford,

0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Utah and a road game against Washington all in September. Yeah,

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 1>then there's a bye week before they go to Notre Dame.

0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 1>They've also got Oregon in the first week of November

0:33:51.200 --> 0:33:53.920
<v Speaker 1>and a road game at ASU that has not historically

0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:58.640
<v Speaker 1>been great to USC. The very next tarmac firing filled. Yeah,

0:33:58.840 --> 0:34:02.920
<v Speaker 1>not the problem Clay Helton, who everybody loves but no

0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:05.520
<v Speaker 1>one would recognize in Hudson News. As we've elaborated on

0:34:05.880 --> 0:34:08.920
<v Speaker 1>the show, I love that stupidity of the statement. Yeah,

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:12.080
<v Speaker 1>nine and three may be the absolute ceiling for USC

0:34:12.239 --> 0:34:14.200
<v Speaker 1>given the schedule, and that could be a problem for

0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:15.879
<v Speaker 1>him if.

0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:17.680
<v Speaker 2>They go nine and three and win the Alamobile and

0:34:17.719 --> 0:34:19.839
<v Speaker 2>get to ten and they beat I don't know who

0:34:19.840 --> 0:34:22.040
<v Speaker 2>they would play in the Alamobile, but if they beat

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:25.480
<v Speaker 2>somebody in the top twenty ten wins with the top

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:26.759
<v Speaker 2>twenty Bowl win, is that enough?

0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:32.240
<v Speaker 1>Just show improvement, okay, show improvement from start to finish.

0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:34.560
<v Speaker 1>That might be enough. If you win eight wins.

0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:38.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's enough. I think, yes, an admirable

0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:41.840
<v Speaker 2>eight wins where you just barely lose to Washington, it

0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:44.680
<v Speaker 2>just barely and you look competitive. I don't think that's enough.

0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:47.520
<v Speaker 2>I think that number is it's a red number. That's

0:34:47.560 --> 0:34:51.279
<v Speaker 2>the scarlet number for USC. I think they're cardinal and gold.

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:55.239
<v Speaker 2>But it's close enough. Eight wins is not enough. A

0:34:55.360 --> 0:34:58.800
<v Speaker 2>wins is just not enough. I think it's it's gonna

0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:02.960
<v Speaker 2>take nine with wins over big teams, and maybe they're

0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:05.080
<v Speaker 2>there's a context for why they lose a couple of games.

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:05.600
<v Speaker 1>Quarterback.

0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:11.239
<v Speaker 2>It's hurt they you know, some some explanation. I think

0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:13.960
<v Speaker 2>in all likelihood it has to be double digit wins

0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:17.880
<v Speaker 2>for for Clay Hell to keep his job, and double

0:35:17.920 --> 0:35:21.680
<v Speaker 2>digit wins winning the conference probably doesn't. Don't They also

0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:26.000
<v Speaker 2>have Fresno to open the year. Yeah, Fresno's a good team. Yeah,

0:35:26.280 --> 0:35:30.040
<v Speaker 2>Fresno's been putting out top ten defenses. So Fresno Stanford,

0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:32.560
<v Speaker 2>they're going. They're on the road at BYU, who's got

0:35:32.600 --> 0:35:35.000
<v Speaker 2>a promising young quarterback. I think USC wins that game.

0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:38.560
<v Speaker 2>But in terms of there's there's no letting off the pedal.

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 2>Fresno Stanford BYU, Utah, Washington, Notre Dame, UNREMT that's going.

0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:46.840
<v Speaker 2>That's going into an Arizona game where there might be

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:49.400
<v Speaker 2>the single most dangerous quarterback in the conference. You might

0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:50.879
<v Speaker 2>talk Do you want to talk about Arizona next?

0:35:50.880 --> 0:35:53.880
<v Speaker 1>I'll talk about Arizona next, Yes, please do. What's your

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:56.400
<v Speaker 1>question about Arizona? I do have that question about Arizona.

0:35:56.480 --> 0:35:59.040
<v Speaker 2>That is the least interesting question there is because it's

0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:01.840
<v Speaker 2>what everybody kind of wants to know. Am I going

0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:04.960
<v Speaker 2>to get to watch fun Khalil Tate in twenty nineteen?

0:36:05.920 --> 0:36:08.799
<v Speaker 2>I know last year that the nol Mazzoni offense where

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:10.759
<v Speaker 2>he was, you know, getting used to being more of

0:36:10.800 --> 0:36:13.279
<v Speaker 2>a pocket guy and not really in that rich Rod

0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:15.400
<v Speaker 2>Mold of all sorts of his own reads and just

0:36:15.440 --> 0:36:18.480
<v Speaker 2>doing it all himself. Can he do it all himself?

0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:22.200
<v Speaker 2>Again please, because the defense is not going to be

0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:26.560
<v Speaker 2>super good and so it's not they will find themselves

0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:29.600
<v Speaker 2>in a well, they're down forty to twenty eight with

0:36:29.719 --> 0:36:30.880
<v Speaker 2>eleven minutes left.

0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Sure, it's Tate time. Tate time. Nice, that's it I'm begging. Okay,

0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:42.120
<v Speaker 1>So you mentioned the defense. They gave up thirty two

0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:44.799
<v Speaker 1>points six points per game last year. Yeah, they did.

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:47.760
<v Speaker 1>That was almost as bad as Oklahoma for content.

0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:52.399
<v Speaker 2>The Tate Show with I was doing like a late

0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:54.200
<v Speaker 2>show thing and then it just didn't all add up.

0:36:54.440 --> 0:37:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Sorry. The issue is defense, for sure. Okay, let's get

0:37:01.040 --> 0:37:03.680
<v Speaker 1>back to the elephant in the room here. Yeah. I

0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:07.040
<v Speaker 1>want to believe they get better on defense. The linebacking

0:37:07.080 --> 0:37:11.160
<v Speaker 1>corps should be okay, Okay, Well, I am kicking myself

0:37:11.239 --> 0:37:14.200
<v Speaker 1>personally that I did not include Colin's Schooler on my

0:37:14.320 --> 0:37:15.080
<v Speaker 1>dude watch list.

0:37:15.480 --> 0:37:18.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, Actually, can I jump in right here please.

0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:21.520
<v Speaker 2>The reason I said that my answer about Organ's receivers

0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:23.560
<v Speaker 2>has changed in the last couple of days is because

0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:26.960
<v Speaker 2>starting receiver Brendan Schooler, yes, broke his foot and he's

0:37:27.000 --> 0:37:29.160
<v Speaker 2>out six to eight weeks. His younger brother, who you're

0:37:29.160 --> 0:37:31.440
<v Speaker 2>about to talk about. It's a very, very good linebacker

0:37:31.440 --> 0:37:32.560
<v Speaker 2>for Arizona.

0:37:32.320 --> 0:37:36.239
<v Speaker 1>Really good linebacker. And again, this isn't a program recently

0:37:37.000 --> 0:37:39.759
<v Speaker 1>that has been that notable on the defensive side. Of course,

0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:41.320
<v Speaker 1>he had Scooby Wright a couple of years ago, but

0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:44.719
<v Speaker 1>otherwise not a lot to love on the defensive side.

0:37:44.800 --> 0:37:47.239
<v Speaker 1>Colin Schooler is one of those names you should watch

0:37:47.280 --> 0:37:50.880
<v Speaker 1>out for. And the secondary is three starters back and

0:37:50.920 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 1>they should be okay. So I don't know if I'll

0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:55.440
<v Speaker 1>believe in any defensive improvement until I see it, but

0:37:55.480 --> 0:37:57.319
<v Speaker 1>they can't get a whole lot worse than they did

0:37:58.360 --> 0:38:02.920
<v Speaker 1>a year ago. Good news, bad news situation for the

0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:07.680
<v Speaker 1>Wildcats is this. I think there is a ton of

0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:11.880
<v Speaker 1>reason for optimism, not just seeing Khalil Tate in the backfield,

0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:17.359
<v Speaker 1>but also JJ Taylor. That's exciting. Preview after preview, rider

0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:21.759
<v Speaker 1>after writer, everybody who's writing a preview about Arizona this

0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 1>year is focusing on those two guys and how much

0:38:25.160 --> 0:38:28.960
<v Speaker 1>fun they're going to be. I'm with them. I'm excited.

0:38:30.120 --> 0:38:32.719
<v Speaker 1>The problem the bad news is that eventually it hits

0:38:32.719 --> 0:38:35.840
<v Speaker 1>you like, oh God, this is all on Khalil JJ Taylor,

0:38:35.880 --> 0:38:38.360
<v Speaker 1>isn't it. It's fine by me, It's fine by me

0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:41.520
<v Speaker 1>as a fan, if you're an Arizona fan, yeah, it's

0:38:41.560 --> 0:38:45.839
<v Speaker 1>not sustainable. But as a college football fan, yeah, you're

0:38:45.880 --> 0:38:48.239
<v Speaker 1>going to find some games where they're down forty to

0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:50.880
<v Speaker 1>eighteen late and we're going to see some creative stuff.

0:38:51.640 --> 0:38:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Last year, the main reason I believe we saw a

0:38:55.200 --> 0:38:58.080
<v Speaker 1>different Khalil Tait was because he heard his ankle in

0:38:58.120 --> 0:38:59.520
<v Speaker 1>the second week of the year and he didn't run

0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:01.840
<v Speaker 1>as much. Yeah, and it's new coach, new system. This

0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:04.840
<v Speaker 1>a coach new system. But Kevin someone was very clear,

0:39:05.280 --> 0:39:07.520
<v Speaker 1>very clear in saying that, Yeah, Cleil Tait's really good

0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:08.879
<v Speaker 1>when he can run the ball, and he just didn't

0:39:08.920 --> 0:39:12.400
<v Speaker 1>run the ball last year. He was hurt. So hopefully

0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:14.359
<v Speaker 1>he's healthy this year and we could see more of that.

0:39:14.920 --> 0:39:17.560
<v Speaker 1>And let's talk about JJ Taylor. We talked about him,

0:39:17.840 --> 0:39:20.000
<v Speaker 1>I think on our Dude Show. If we didn't, maybe

0:39:20.040 --> 0:39:23.560
<v Speaker 1>we should have, but implied established dude, but a revelation

0:39:24.160 --> 0:39:26.960
<v Speaker 1>in his sophomore year had over fourteen hundred yards. Dudes,

0:39:27.000 --> 0:39:30.239
<v Speaker 1>only five six, not big by any stretch, but a

0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:35.400
<v Speaker 1>ton of fun to watch out there. The absolute wishing

0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:38.719
<v Speaker 1>on a star best case scenario for Arizona is like

0:39:38.760 --> 0:39:44.799
<v Speaker 1>seven and five. Yeah, I think that's right. Seven and five.

0:39:44.880 --> 0:39:47.960
<v Speaker 1>I can't go more than seven and five. Texas Tech

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:51.160
<v Speaker 1>in week three should tell us a lot. Listen to

0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:54.719
<v Speaker 1>the road schedule. Did you see this? I don't have

0:39:54.760 --> 0:39:57.320
<v Speaker 1>it in front of me, but I'm winning at USC,

0:39:57.920 --> 0:40:01.880
<v Speaker 1>at Stanford, at Oregon, at Arizona State. And that's in

0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:05.080
<v Speaker 1>addition and territorial by the way, to home games against

0:40:05.160 --> 0:40:08.360
<v Speaker 1>Washington and Utah. So not easy for Arizona. What do

0:40:08.360 --> 0:40:10.399
<v Speaker 1>they miss from the north? Do they miss Wazoo? They

0:40:10.400 --> 0:40:14.520
<v Speaker 1>miss Wazoo. Oh, that's pretty good, but otherwise it's a

0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:20.759
<v Speaker 1>murderer's row. Doesn't relent at all. And seven and five

0:40:20.800 --> 0:40:22.000
<v Speaker 1>is probably your best case scenario.

0:40:23.280 --> 0:40:25.960
<v Speaker 2>So that means the defense in a best case scenario

0:40:26.080 --> 0:40:29.640
<v Speaker 2>goes from being below average because they did improve last year.

0:40:30.600 --> 0:40:34.480
<v Speaker 2>They go from being not great to all right. You know,

0:40:34.680 --> 0:40:36.520
<v Speaker 2>take the good, you take the bad. That kind of

0:40:36.560 --> 0:40:40.439
<v Speaker 2>thing for Arizona and Khalil Tate returning to form as

0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:45.040
<v Speaker 2>essentially a borderline Heisman candidate. Yes, okay, I'm curious about

0:40:45.040 --> 0:40:48.200
<v Speaker 2>the receivers. If they have those, go to guys that

0:40:48.239 --> 0:40:51.080
<v Speaker 2>will pair well and keep defenses honest or teams are

0:40:51.080 --> 0:40:53.839
<v Speaker 2>just going to keep spying on Tate and you know,

0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:55.920
<v Speaker 2>make his life miserable as often as possible.

0:40:57.120 --> 0:40:59.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, where do we want to go from here?

0:41:00.800 --> 0:41:03.759
<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about Wazoo since you brought them up. Yes,

0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:06.719
<v Speaker 1>great story. Last year, both sides of the football, right,

0:41:07.040 --> 0:41:11.399
<v Speaker 1>Gardner Minshew has a breakout campaign. Tracy Clays his first year,

0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Remember they brought him in to try and help the defense.

0:41:15.080 --> 0:41:19.239
<v Speaker 1>That went very well, good defensive mind. This year, now

0:41:19.239 --> 0:41:22.239
<v Speaker 1>they're in a different place, a familiar place, but a

0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:27.239
<v Speaker 1>different place, bringing in another transfer quarterback because of the system. Now,

0:41:28.320 --> 0:41:31.279
<v Speaker 1>is it fair to say that the Wazoo offense is

0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:35.520
<v Speaker 1>completely relying upon the success of their newest transfer quarterback.

0:41:35.640 --> 0:41:38.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, They're only going to go as far as their

0:41:38.160 --> 0:41:40.799
<v Speaker 2>quarterback takes them. I think it's more than that. But

0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:45.560
<v Speaker 2>because of the way Washington State's offense runs through the quarterback,

0:41:46.040 --> 0:41:48.279
<v Speaker 2>as the quarterback is responsible for both the passing game

0:41:48.320 --> 0:41:50.279
<v Speaker 2>and in some ways the running game, with short little

0:41:50.280 --> 0:41:52.680
<v Speaker 2>passes to running backs out of the backfield and screens

0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:57.400
<v Speaker 2>to the receivers. Yes, the good news for Gaje Gubrud

0:41:57.800 --> 0:42:01.080
<v Speaker 2>allegedly gauge, but come on, it's gotsche The good News

0:42:01.160 --> 0:42:03.600
<v Speaker 2>room is. He had a bunch of coordinators at Eastern.

0:42:03.840 --> 0:42:06.160
<v Speaker 2>He had Bo Baldwin running things on offense and Troy

0:42:06.200 --> 0:42:09.640
<v Speaker 2>Taylor who ended up at Utah. He's year over year.

0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:11.239
<v Speaker 2>Has had to get used to being thrown into a

0:42:11.320 --> 0:42:14.160
<v Speaker 2>new situation. Now going to Washington State and playing against

0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:17.879
<v Speaker 2>PAC twelve competition every week, it's different animal. It's for sure,

0:42:17.920 --> 0:42:20.120
<v Speaker 2>different animal. We saw Vernon Adams do it from going

0:42:20.120 --> 0:42:22.400
<v Speaker 2>from Eastern Washington to a PAC twelve North team and

0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:26.359
<v Speaker 2>looking sensational, and it could happen again for Washington State

0:42:26.400 --> 0:42:29.840
<v Speaker 2>here quarterbacks are different and relying on this sort of

0:42:29.920 --> 0:42:34.120
<v Speaker 2>year over year thing. It's real tricky again. I saw

0:42:34.120 --> 0:42:36.880
<v Speaker 2>it with Dakota Prucop coming in a year after Vernon Adams.

0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:40.680
<v Speaker 2>Different quarterback for sure. It's just tough to the lightning

0:42:40.719 --> 0:42:44.719
<v Speaker 2>in a bottle of Gardner Minshew happening again. I think

0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:49.760
<v Speaker 2>the odds are not great, but they've been built well enough.

0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:54.400
<v Speaker 2>Washington State. They are right now in a probably better

0:42:54.480 --> 0:42:57.600
<v Speaker 2>place than Oregon. They've beaten the Ducks four straight years,

0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:01.319
<v Speaker 2>and a couple of those times pretty emphatic. They go,

0:43:01.440 --> 0:43:04.360
<v Speaker 2>they win ten games. Last year, they lose the Wonky

0:43:04.800 --> 0:43:07.720
<v Speaker 2>Game to USC with the referee issues and the late hits,

0:43:08.719 --> 0:43:12.439
<v Speaker 2>and then obviously they're nailed down by the Husky Hammer. Hey,

0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:16.680
<v Speaker 2>that's pretty good. That's your nickname in high school. So

0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:19.120
<v Speaker 2>the offense is very very good. So yes, it's going

0:43:19.120 --> 0:43:22.240
<v Speaker 2>to depend on guy Ja Gubrud. They had trouble running

0:43:22.320 --> 0:43:24.080
<v Speaker 2>last year, which would have taken off some of the

0:43:24.760 --> 0:43:27.080
<v Speaker 2>heat from Gardner Minshew in a couple of those games.

0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:30.400
<v Speaker 2>They didn't go downfield as much as they have and

0:43:30.440 --> 0:43:32.319
<v Speaker 2>so I wonder what that looks like with a really

0:43:32.440 --> 0:43:36.280
<v Speaker 2>nice receiving core back tay Martin des Patman. Jamiir Calvin

0:43:36.320 --> 0:43:38.400
<v Speaker 2>inside is really good. I think he had a huge

0:43:39.080 --> 0:43:41.520
<v Speaker 2>conversion on third down against Oregon last year. The line

0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:44.040
<v Speaker 2>should be pretty good even without Andre Dillard, who now

0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:47.600
<v Speaker 2>is sort of your neighbor, right, He's an eagle, sort of,

0:43:47.680 --> 0:43:49.520
<v Speaker 2>isn't he? Yeah, sort of your neighbor sort of. A

0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:53.680
<v Speaker 2>couple hours the defensive lines rebuilding, but they bring in

0:43:53.719 --> 0:43:55.759
<v Speaker 2>a nice transfer. I think his name is McDougall from

0:43:55.840 --> 0:43:59.600
<v Speaker 2>West Virginia. They've got rotations, back, rotation guys back at linebacker.

0:43:59.719 --> 0:44:02.239
<v Speaker 2>I think secondary is gonna be a little bit tough.

0:44:02.280 --> 0:44:04.960
<v Speaker 2>They lost Jalen Thompson, who was even potential All American

0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:08.000
<v Speaker 2>but certainly All Conference. He had an nc DOUAI violation.

0:44:08.200 --> 0:44:10.040
<v Speaker 2>I think declared for the supplemental draft.

0:44:11.719 --> 0:44:13.839
<v Speaker 1>Schedule's nice. Schedule's nice.

0:44:13.840 --> 0:44:15.440
<v Speaker 2>I know they have Houston early on and they're at

0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:18.480
<v Speaker 2>Oregon Washington, but it's all pretty cushioned. They have Colorado

0:44:18.520 --> 0:44:21.440
<v Speaker 2>before Oregon, they have I think it's Oregon State at

0:44:21.440 --> 0:44:26.200
<v Speaker 2>home before Washington. So yes, it depends on him. He

0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:28.160
<v Speaker 2>was a good quarterback, had a foot injury last year

0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:29.719
<v Speaker 2>that I think he's still trying to shake a little bit,

0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:31.880
<v Speaker 2>but I think he's ultimately going to be fine. So

0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:36.319
<v Speaker 2>the best case scenario is Gajay is minshew esque, the

0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:40.120
<v Speaker 2>defense stays fast and dangerous, they keep winning the close ones.

0:44:40.160 --> 0:44:42.040
<v Speaker 2>They had some fifty to fifty games last year. I

0:44:42.040 --> 0:44:45.000
<v Speaker 2>think Cal was real close. And the worst case scenario

0:44:45.120 --> 0:44:47.000
<v Speaker 2>is it's just too much to ask for two grad

0:44:47.000 --> 0:44:50.040
<v Speaker 2>transfer quarterbacks in a row to generate that lightning in

0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:52.359
<v Speaker 2>a bottle, and the defense leaks a bit a little

0:44:52.360 --> 0:44:55.439
<v Speaker 2>bit in the secondary, and it's a tough quarterback road

0:44:55.480 --> 0:44:58.640
<v Speaker 2>for Washington State. They have Derek King Houston, they have

0:44:58.960 --> 0:45:00.480
<v Speaker 2>I think what's going to be We're going to get

0:45:00.480 --> 0:45:03.600
<v Speaker 2>to him probably next dt R, Dorian Thompson Robinson, the UCLA.

0:45:04.280 --> 0:45:07.839
<v Speaker 2>They've Tyler Huntley, Stephen Montes, Justin, Herbert kJ Costello, and

0:45:08.600 --> 0:45:11.280
<v Speaker 2>potentially a very good Jacob Easton or whoever starting at Washington.

0:45:11.400 --> 0:45:12.920
<v Speaker 2>So that's the worst case, and they would in that

0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:14.799
<v Speaker 2>case go seven to five and six or six and

0:45:14.840 --> 0:45:18.480
<v Speaker 2>six something like that. This all seems right to me, Dan,

0:45:18.960 --> 0:45:20.640
<v Speaker 2>Are they in a better place to you than Oregon

0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:23.160
<v Speaker 2>with how they've been these past few years where you

0:45:23.200 --> 0:45:26.000
<v Speaker 2>are feeling more confident that they will figure things out.

0:45:26.800 --> 0:45:31.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm feeling more confident because they have despite maybe the

0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:37.359
<v Speaker 2>stigma that Mike Leech had about coaching defense, they've actually

0:45:37.400 --> 0:45:40.440
<v Speaker 2>been pretty good on defense last couple of years, and

0:45:40.760 --> 0:45:42.760
<v Speaker 2>that to me has been a steadying force.

0:45:44.120 --> 0:45:47.280
<v Speaker 1>Right. So I guess with that in mind, I would

0:45:47.280 --> 0:45:49.839
<v Speaker 1>I'd be inclined to answer, Yes, I think it's close, though,

0:45:50.520 --> 0:45:51.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's close.

0:45:51.840 --> 0:45:54.440
<v Speaker 2>Who is more able to say we have got a

0:45:54.480 --> 0:45:57.400
<v Speaker 2>great blank and it's I think it's Washington State in

0:45:57.400 --> 0:45:57.920
<v Speaker 2>their offense.

0:45:58.160 --> 0:46:01.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think you're right there. There's been a level

0:46:01.920 --> 0:46:07.440
<v Speaker 1>of consistency at Wazoo that's been admirable. Danger got a

0:46:07.480 --> 0:46:09.280
<v Speaker 1>credit Mike Leach for that. He's done a good job

0:46:09.520 --> 0:46:11.920
<v Speaker 1>for sure. But we'll see you at the new quarterback.

0:46:11.960 --> 0:46:15.720
<v Speaker 1>What's your ceiling for Wazuo this season?

0:46:15.760 --> 0:46:19.640
<v Speaker 2>Ceiling if if Gaja goobrued works out and the defense

0:46:19.800 --> 0:46:22.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, is able to replace guys and work rotation

0:46:22.280 --> 0:46:25.880
<v Speaker 2>guys in nicely. I think Washington State has like a

0:46:27.560 --> 0:46:29.719
<v Speaker 2>man nine and three again with a chance to win

0:46:29.760 --> 0:46:30.359
<v Speaker 2>ten in a bowl.

0:46:31.160 --> 0:46:34.719
<v Speaker 1>Let's do Ucla. What do you got for me on Ucla? Man?

0:46:34.760 --> 0:46:36.960
<v Speaker 2>This is gonna be very similar to my kalil take question.

0:46:38.239 --> 0:46:40.240
<v Speaker 2>Am I going to get to watch Chip Kelly football

0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:43.480
<v Speaker 2>Capital F football in twenty nineteen in a way that

0:46:43.520 --> 0:46:47.040
<v Speaker 2>will make me? This is a complicated, baggage filled It'll

0:46:47.080 --> 0:46:48.800
<v Speaker 2>make me happy, it'll make me sad, It'll make me

0:46:48.840 --> 0:46:51.840
<v Speaker 2>a little scared watching UCLA? Or is that is that

0:46:51.920 --> 0:46:53.600
<v Speaker 2>a twenty twenty combo of emotion?

0:46:53.840 --> 0:46:57.320
<v Speaker 1>Is this? Is this you being invited to an ex's wedding?

0:46:59.640 --> 0:47:03.040
<v Speaker 2>Not anymore? He's already been back to Eugene at this point.

0:47:03.200 --> 0:47:06.080
<v Speaker 2>I just it would be fun to see a good UCLA.

0:47:06.960 --> 0:47:10.440
<v Speaker 1>So you've you're you're burying the past.

0:47:11.360 --> 0:47:14.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, we had our great times. It was passionate,

0:47:15.520 --> 0:47:19.759
<v Speaker 2>memorable and I'll remember it forever. I just now I

0:47:20.080 --> 0:47:21.399
<v Speaker 2>want to see somebody live well.

0:47:21.440 --> 0:47:26.760
<v Speaker 1>As a Southern California kid, Yeah, growing up watching sports,

0:47:27.840 --> 0:47:31.719
<v Speaker 1>were you more inclined towards USC or Ucla? Oh? Ucla

0:47:31.760 --> 0:47:34.080
<v Speaker 1>for sure, really for sure. Yeah.

0:47:34.200 --> 0:47:35.840
<v Speaker 2>I really liked the basketball team. So they won the

0:47:35.920 --> 0:47:39.680
<v Speaker 2>national championship and what ninety.

0:47:38.400 --> 0:47:41.280
<v Speaker 1>Four early the tias Edney team.

0:47:41.320 --> 0:47:46.200
<v Speaker 2>Tias Edney over Miszoo and yeah, yeah, I was about

0:47:46.239 --> 0:47:50.959
<v Speaker 2>to say Kyler Murray, but that is not correct. Different player. Yeah,

0:47:50.960 --> 0:47:52.840
<v Speaker 2>that team was incredible and so that really got me

0:47:52.840 --> 0:47:55.440
<v Speaker 2>going with UCLA, as did like the cade McNown era.

0:47:55.520 --> 0:47:57.800
<v Speaker 1>In oh yeah, middle late nineties.

0:47:59.239 --> 0:48:02.000
<v Speaker 2>So I was into that and so I've talked about

0:48:02.000 --> 0:48:04.799
<v Speaker 2>this that that cade McNown Ucla lost to Miami at

0:48:04.800 --> 0:48:06.600
<v Speaker 2>the end of the season. That was postponed from the

0:48:06.680 --> 0:48:09.440
<v Speaker 2>beginning of the season when UCLA was about to, I

0:48:09.480 --> 0:48:11.479
<v Speaker 2>think go to the national championship if they win that game.

0:48:11.840 --> 0:48:15.520
<v Speaker 2>That was Edger and James ran for five thousand yards

0:48:15.560 --> 0:48:18.719
<v Speaker 2>on a Nick Aliotti defense for UCLA.

0:48:19.080 --> 0:48:23.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, Ucla went three and nine last year.

0:48:23.719 --> 0:48:27.440
<v Speaker 1>It was not a good season in Westwood, but they

0:48:27.480 --> 0:48:31.839
<v Speaker 1>were super young and They're still young this year, they

0:48:31.920 --> 0:48:36.919
<v Speaker 1>will be better, will be better this season. I am

0:48:37.040 --> 0:48:42.759
<v Speaker 1>super interested in your boy Dtrnson Robinson, their quarterback, as

0:48:42.760 --> 0:48:46.799
<v Speaker 1>well as Joshua Kelly and how our boy Charles chip

0:48:46.880 --> 0:48:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Kelly is going to use both of them. As you know,

0:48:49.920 --> 0:48:52.480
<v Speaker 1>Chippers got a knack for the whole running thing, and

0:48:52.560 --> 0:48:56.120
<v Speaker 1>Joshua Kelly really came into his own towards the end

0:48:56.200 --> 0:49:01.240
<v Speaker 1>of last season. Elsewhere, the wide receiver corp is mostly back.

0:49:01.920 --> 0:49:04.920
<v Speaker 1>They got four guys on the line that are back.

0:49:05.600 --> 0:49:11.680
<v Speaker 1>The defense was super young again last season, mostly mostly

0:49:11.719 --> 0:49:13.960
<v Speaker 1>back this year. So I don't know if I have

0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:18.520
<v Speaker 1>any deep level of analysis on the UCLA Bruins, just

0:49:18.600 --> 0:49:21.760
<v Speaker 1>that they were so young last year learning a new system.

0:49:22.320 --> 0:49:24.279
<v Speaker 1>Most of the team is back. I think it has

0:49:24.360 --> 0:49:28.120
<v Speaker 1>to improve. Now to what end will it improve? That's

0:49:28.160 --> 0:49:30.400
<v Speaker 1>hard to say, Dan, because when you look at the schedule,

0:49:30.920 --> 0:49:33.840
<v Speaker 1>it truly qualifies as manslaughter in like one hundred and

0:49:33.880 --> 0:49:39.600
<v Speaker 1>fifty countries. This schedule is brutal. Opening the year at Cincinnati.

0:49:39.680 --> 0:49:43.200
<v Speaker 1>Not a bad team, right, They'll be better this year,

0:49:43.280 --> 0:49:46.279
<v Speaker 1>for sure, not a bad team. Then they come back

0:49:46.280 --> 0:49:49.160
<v Speaker 1>home against San Diego State, which is no pushover the

0:49:49.280 --> 0:49:55.480
<v Speaker 1>next week they host Oklahoma, difficult game potentially zero to three, potentially,

0:49:56.760 --> 0:50:00.920
<v Speaker 1>and then the Pac twelve road schedule is nuts at Wazoo,

0:50:01.400 --> 0:50:05.960
<v Speaker 1>at Zona, at Stanford, at Utah, at USC. Are you

0:50:06.040 --> 0:50:09.560
<v Speaker 1>freaking kidding me with this? That's a rough. That's a rough.

0:50:10.000 --> 0:50:14.120
<v Speaker 1>They could improve by leaps and bounds, and the best

0:50:14.160 --> 0:50:16.919
<v Speaker 1>case scenario still might only be six and six. That's

0:50:16.920 --> 0:50:20.400
<v Speaker 1>how tough this schedule is. That's one hundred percent more wins.

0:50:20.600 --> 0:50:23.120
<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent more wins? Yes? Is my math? Does

0:50:23.120 --> 0:50:26.360
<v Speaker 1>my mat check out? Three? Nine to six and six? Yes,

0:50:27.200 --> 0:50:28.640
<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent more wins. You're right?

0:50:28.640 --> 0:50:31.560
<v Speaker 2>They miss Oregon though, right, they miss organ Yeah, they

0:50:31.600 --> 0:50:35.480
<v Speaker 2>miss Oregon and Washington. Is that how I'm reading this correctly?

0:50:35.520 --> 0:50:38.919
<v Speaker 2>So that's at least some relief. There's at least something

0:50:38.920 --> 0:50:42.960
<v Speaker 2>there that it could be worse. The back half of

0:50:43.000 --> 0:50:46.800
<v Speaker 2>their schedule is pretty rocky. The middle of their schedules

0:50:46.800 --> 0:50:49.799
<v Speaker 2>all right, beginning as you mentioned, is you know that

0:50:50.080 --> 0:50:53.560
<v Speaker 2>through the Arizona game late in September, that's tough.

0:50:53.840 --> 0:50:54.160
<v Speaker 1>I am.

0:50:54.400 --> 0:50:57.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm very excited for DTR. I'm they have speed at receiver.

0:50:57.640 --> 0:51:00.520
<v Speaker 2>I think whatever they lack in talent, they are gonna

0:51:00.520 --> 0:51:01.920
<v Speaker 2>be one of the few teams in the country that

0:51:01.960 --> 0:51:04.759
<v Speaker 2>they can say we can outscheme people, we can add

0:51:04.800 --> 0:51:09.440
<v Speaker 2>wrinkles that make our offense hum more smoothly than it

0:51:09.480 --> 0:51:14.400
<v Speaker 2>should all things considered defensively. Have a lot of questions defensively.

0:51:14.440 --> 0:51:17.600
<v Speaker 2>What they look like on the road. Yeah, so last

0:51:17.680 --> 0:51:21.000
<v Speaker 2>year on the road, UCLA gives up forty nine, thirty eight,

0:51:21.520 --> 0:51:23.600
<v Speaker 2>thirty or they give up seven in a win.

0:51:23.560 --> 0:51:24.560
<v Speaker 1>To cal which is great.

0:51:24.760 --> 0:51:28.000
<v Speaker 2>They give up forty two to Oregon, thirty one to Asu,

0:51:28.239 --> 0:51:30.600
<v Speaker 2>and then they finish the season, and I would consider

0:51:30.640 --> 0:51:33.960
<v Speaker 2>this a bright spot. God Wilton spate through for almost

0:51:34.000 --> 0:51:37.360
<v Speaker 2>five hundred yards against Stanford in a shootout loss to

0:51:37.400 --> 0:51:42.880
<v Speaker 2>the Cardinal in Pasadena, so they're in a decent enough place.

0:51:43.520 --> 0:51:47.520
<v Speaker 2>Dtr will be healthy. What he looked like against Washington,

0:51:47.640 --> 0:51:49.760
<v Speaker 2>especially as they almost upset them in the Rose Bowl.

0:51:50.080 --> 0:51:51.520
<v Speaker 2>I think we're gonna get a lot more of a

0:51:51.520 --> 0:51:54.680
<v Speaker 2>full off season. The Chip Kelly program, I think, is

0:51:54.719 --> 0:51:56.759
<v Speaker 2>gonna pay a good amount of dividends. They're gonna be fun.

0:51:56.760 --> 0:51:58.839
<v Speaker 2>They're gonna be a fifty to fifty team. They're gonna

0:51:59.000 --> 0:52:01.400
<v Speaker 2>plan a lot of like thirty eight thirty five types.

0:52:01.640 --> 0:52:05.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think that's a great argument against your

0:52:06.040 --> 0:52:08.080
<v Speaker 1>theory that this could be the last year for Charles

0:52:08.120 --> 0:52:11.160
<v Speaker 1>Chip Kelly. There's so many I don't think we'll have

0:52:11.200 --> 0:52:12.839
<v Speaker 1>to do with what they look like on the field though,

0:52:12.960 --> 0:52:16.600
<v Speaker 1>so well, that's potentially true, so much youth. I think

0:52:16.680 --> 0:52:19.880
<v Speaker 1>Dorian Thompson, Robinson and Joshua Kelly should be awesome in

0:52:19.920 --> 0:52:23.239
<v Speaker 1>the backfield. Very curious to see if we get that

0:52:23.360 --> 0:52:26.840
<v Speaker 1>retro Chip style of offense. That would be fun. Like

0:52:26.920 --> 0:52:27.200
<v Speaker 1>I do.

0:52:27.920 --> 0:52:29.959
<v Speaker 2>I'm worried about them up front, but I like their

0:52:30.000 --> 0:52:32.840
<v Speaker 2>their linebackers on defense. I like, God, he feels like

0:52:32.840 --> 0:52:36.160
<v Speaker 2>he's been here forever. It's Kaishaan Lucier South. Yeah, he was,

0:52:36.560 --> 0:52:38.520
<v Speaker 2>He's been there for a good amount of time. And

0:52:38.600 --> 0:52:40.120
<v Speaker 2>Chris Barnes was really nice as well.

0:52:40.200 --> 0:52:41.560
<v Speaker 1>Last year. He was all over the place.

0:52:41.600 --> 0:52:43.640
<v Speaker 2>So if he can be if they can look like

0:52:43.680 --> 0:52:46.120
<v Speaker 2>what they did at linebacker like four years ago, the

0:52:46.160 --> 0:52:49.839
<v Speaker 2>Anthony Barr era, Yeah yeah, that's it's a high bar.

0:52:50.440 --> 0:52:53.120
<v Speaker 2>But at least when you have those guys cleaning things up,

0:52:53.640 --> 0:52:56.080
<v Speaker 2>you can get off the field, and that's that's enormous.

0:52:56.480 --> 0:52:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Hey, Dan, when you were in school, what was like

0:52:58.920 --> 0:53:01.040
<v Speaker 1>the cool thing you have, like a trendy thing when

0:53:01.040 --> 0:53:05.279
<v Speaker 1>you were in school in high school. Growing up, you

0:53:05.320 --> 0:53:09.719
<v Speaker 1>went to like angel Dust saying no slap bracelets. In

0:53:09.840 --> 0:53:12.799
<v Speaker 1>high school was that? That was probably? I am That

0:53:12.840 --> 0:53:15.839
<v Speaker 1>was probably elementary school for both of us. Right, High

0:53:15.840 --> 0:53:23.640
<v Speaker 1>school was POGs Now ska ska. People listen to SKA.

0:53:23.840 --> 0:53:27.760
<v Speaker 1>You're talking about like collectibles, Yeah, like a Rubik's cube

0:53:27.840 --> 0:53:32.160
<v Speaker 1>or like Pokey. We were before Pokemon, quicksilver shirts, quick.

0:53:32.120 --> 0:53:34.839
<v Speaker 2>Airwalks, Yeah, a lot of you know what it was

0:53:34.960 --> 0:53:38.000
<v Speaker 2>that skater shoes like DVS airwalks, vans.

0:53:38.040 --> 0:53:40.719
<v Speaker 1>That was very big, the coolest thing in school. Now

0:53:42.320 --> 0:53:45.759
<v Speaker 1>they're Bombas socks. Oh, absolutely, And I have something to

0:53:45.800 --> 0:53:49.520
<v Speaker 1>say about this. They have the most comfortable kid socks ever.

0:53:49.880 --> 0:53:52.759
<v Speaker 1>They're designed with several comfort innovations that helped make them

0:53:52.760 --> 0:53:56.880
<v Speaker 1>feel better than any other kids sock ever made. They're colorful,

0:53:57.280 --> 0:54:00.239
<v Speaker 1>literally bursting with color. Dan you know this. Yeah, they

0:54:00.239 --> 0:54:03.640
<v Speaker 1>even have a little colorful b on them. Bombas donates

0:54:03.640 --> 0:54:06.800
<v Speaker 1>a pair of socks for every pair purchased. So great.

0:54:07.160 --> 0:54:09.880
<v Speaker 1>You should get some for yourself too. We've got Bombastan.

0:54:10.000 --> 0:54:13.080
<v Speaker 1>They actually were kind enough to just send us a pack.

0:54:13.120 --> 0:54:15.920
<v Speaker 1>I have yours downstairs of No show socks, which I've

0:54:15.960 --> 0:54:16.279
<v Speaker 1>been into.

0:54:16.960 --> 0:54:18.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm full no show life. Other than when I have

0:54:18.920 --> 0:54:21.160
<v Speaker 2>to wear a suit. I'm a no shower now.

0:54:22.280 --> 0:54:24.760
<v Speaker 1>So if you're in the position of sending your children

0:54:24.800 --> 0:54:26.680
<v Speaker 1>back to school, why not do it with Bombas. They

0:54:26.680 --> 0:54:30.200
<v Speaker 1>are the socks that'll keep them comfy, colorful, and get

0:54:30.239 --> 0:54:31.879
<v Speaker 1>them ready to take on the school year. You can

0:54:31.960 --> 0:54:35.480
<v Speaker 1>visit Bombas dot com Bombas dot com slash Solid. You'll

0:54:35.520 --> 0:54:39.920
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0:54:40.160 --> 0:54:43.879
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0:54:43.920 --> 0:54:48.280
<v Speaker 1>first purchase Bombas dot Com slash Solid. We're huge fans

0:54:48.360 --> 0:54:51.279
<v Speaker 1>of Bomba socks here, got a whole drawer full of them.

0:54:51.800 --> 0:54:53.640
<v Speaker 1>Can't recommend them highly enough.

0:54:54.520 --> 0:54:57.120
<v Speaker 2>I remember when I was whatever, it was, fifth grade,

0:54:57.160 --> 0:55:00.800
<v Speaker 2>eighth grade, whatever, where I get these socks and popular brands,

0:55:00.800 --> 0:55:05.040
<v Speaker 2>whether in Nike, whatever, Adidas and the elastic wares, and

0:55:05.080 --> 0:55:07.319
<v Speaker 2>you're like, Wow, I can't wear these anymore. These look

0:55:07.360 --> 0:55:11.560
<v Speaker 2>like clown socks. I've had the original pairs of Bomba

0:55:11.719 --> 0:55:14.600
<v Speaker 2>socks that they sent us. I don't know when we

0:55:14.640 --> 0:55:18.640
<v Speaker 2>started partnering with them seven twelve one, two thousand and

0:55:18.680 --> 0:55:23.799
<v Speaker 2>one predated podcast by five years. Yes, I still have those.

0:55:23.840 --> 0:55:26.200
<v Speaker 2>I still work out in them. The elastic hasn't changed.

0:55:26.200 --> 0:55:29.280
<v Speaker 2>They're just as comfortable. They've got that mid soul like webbing,

0:55:29.360 --> 0:55:33.480
<v Speaker 2>the beehive type webbing thing. I could not be a

0:55:33.480 --> 0:55:35.359
<v Speaker 2>bigger fan of them. I actually just watched a video

0:55:35.360 --> 0:55:38.120
<v Speaker 2>about the company. I didn't know we were talking about

0:55:38.160 --> 0:55:40.480
<v Speaker 2>Bombas tonight. I just watched the video. They're doing great.

0:55:40.800 --> 0:55:42.480
<v Speaker 2>The socks are wildly popular.

0:55:42.760 --> 0:55:44.400
<v Speaker 1>Get in on this chase good stuff.

0:55:44.560 --> 0:55:46.879
<v Speaker 2>What's worse than throwing out a pair of socks? You're like, well,

0:55:46.920 --> 0:55:48.920
<v Speaker 2>now I gotta go buy more. Because these things couldn't

0:55:48.920 --> 0:55:52.520
<v Speaker 2>hold elastic for a year, they last forever. According to me,

0:55:52.719 --> 0:55:53.799
<v Speaker 2>I do not guarantee that.

0:55:54.360 --> 0:55:56.360
<v Speaker 1>Hey, while we're at it, while we're doing advertisements. I

0:55:56.400 --> 0:55:57.799
<v Speaker 1>mentioned it at the top of the show, but I

0:55:57.800 --> 0:56:00.239
<v Speaker 1>did want to call out something that you're doing. You're

0:56:00.320 --> 0:56:02.400
<v Speaker 1>doing another podcast, which I'll never let you live down.

0:56:02.480 --> 0:56:05.360
<v Speaker 1>But it's okay. I do it alone. I don't have

0:56:05.400 --> 0:56:08.840
<v Speaker 1>another co host. You do it alone. You're not technically

0:56:08.920 --> 0:56:12.440
<v Speaker 1>cheating on me, so it's cool. Yeah, but sports Wars

0:56:12.560 --> 0:56:16.800
<v Speaker 1>has dipped into a college football arc, has it not? Yeah,

0:56:16.840 --> 0:56:17.280
<v Speaker 1>we are.

0:56:17.440 --> 0:56:19.560
<v Speaker 2>As we were recording this in the middle of the

0:56:19.600 --> 0:56:22.719
<v Speaker 2>world's largest outdoor cocktail party, deep Diving Florida, Georgia or

0:56:22.760 --> 0:56:25.799
<v Speaker 2>depending on who you are, Georgia Florida, and just the

0:56:25.840 --> 0:56:27.920
<v Speaker 2>history of the show, the big names, the big stories

0:56:27.960 --> 0:56:30.880
<v Speaker 2>and like why they hate each other and the baggage

0:56:30.880 --> 0:56:33.080
<v Speaker 2>that everybody has. If you're a Florida fan looking back

0:56:33.080 --> 0:56:35.359
<v Speaker 2>at the herschel Walker Georgia teams or what they've done

0:56:35.400 --> 0:56:37.560
<v Speaker 2>these past couple of years are if you're a Georgia

0:56:37.600 --> 0:56:40.879
<v Speaker 2>fan and Steve Spurry or era where they just wreck them,

0:56:41.040 --> 0:56:43.800
<v Speaker 2>especially wrecking them in Athens, which I had totally forgotten

0:56:43.800 --> 0:56:46.560
<v Speaker 2>about when they were remodeling in Jacksonville. So we go

0:56:46.640 --> 0:56:48.440
<v Speaker 2>through all the old stories and bring it up to

0:56:48.480 --> 0:56:52.040
<v Speaker 2>current day. We're doing the cocktail party, and then we're

0:56:52.040 --> 0:56:55.520
<v Speaker 2>doing Red River, Oklahoma, Texas Texas Oklahoma and going through

0:56:55.520 --> 0:56:57.839
<v Speaker 2>the history there. We figured we'd start with the two

0:56:57.920 --> 0:57:01.840
<v Speaker 2>big weird neutral site rivalry games. Would love to do

0:57:01.920 --> 0:57:04.319
<v Speaker 2>Army Navy, so that's also a neutral site rivalry game.

0:57:04.360 --> 0:57:07.839
<v Speaker 2>But these these really sang to me and they're really fun.

0:57:07.880 --> 0:57:10.520
<v Speaker 2>So I recommend Sports Wars wherever you're listening to this

0:57:10.600 --> 0:57:13.239
<v Speaker 2>right now, go download Sports Wars. Really good for like

0:57:13.440 --> 0:57:15.839
<v Speaker 2>a flight or just a car ride to zone out

0:57:15.840 --> 0:57:17.320
<v Speaker 2>to weird sports stories.

0:57:17.000 --> 0:57:19.439
<v Speaker 1>With I enjoyed. I only had a chance to listen

0:57:19.480 --> 0:57:23.320
<v Speaker 1>to the very first for the Georgia episode, Thank you Well.

0:57:23.360 --> 0:57:25.080
<v Speaker 2>The new for the second one came out literally today

0:57:25.080 --> 0:57:26.360
<v Speaker 2>as we were Yeah, so I had never for a

0:57:26.440 --> 0:57:28.800
<v Speaker 2>chance to listen to it yet. But it's cued up,

0:57:28.800 --> 0:57:31.360
<v Speaker 2>but it's ready to go. Good stuff, man, keep up

0:57:31.360 --> 0:57:33.640
<v Speaker 2>the good work. They wouldn't let me do my spury

0:57:33.720 --> 0:57:36.080
<v Speaker 2>or impression I wanted to do it.

0:57:36.120 --> 0:57:40.480
<v Speaker 1>Weal, weal, Sorry, ty Dan, I want to talk about Stanford.

0:57:41.040 --> 0:57:47.200
<v Speaker 1>I am concerned about Stanford. I am concerned because there

0:57:47.200 --> 0:57:53.400
<v Speaker 1>are lingering questions at running back, at offensive line, on defense.

0:57:53.720 --> 0:57:57.160
<v Speaker 1>All three of those positions were underwhelming last year. What

0:57:57.200 --> 0:58:00.840
<v Speaker 1>the heck is going on with Stanford's identity is David Shaw?

0:58:01.800 --> 0:58:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Is he going to rediscover that physicality, that brand of

0:58:04.920 --> 0:58:10.000
<v Speaker 1>football that really brought Stanford to prominence here of late

0:58:10.760 --> 0:58:13.840
<v Speaker 1>or are we watching a program that is somehow evolving

0:58:13.880 --> 0:58:14.640
<v Speaker 1>into something else?

0:58:15.920 --> 0:58:17.960
<v Speaker 2>Are you asking if David Shaw went on like an

0:58:17.960 --> 0:58:22.320
<v Speaker 2>Eat Prey, Love, find himself vacation to figure out who

0:58:22.320 --> 0:58:23.320
<v Speaker 2>he really wants to be.

0:58:23.520 --> 0:58:26.320
<v Speaker 1>Look, you can call it whatever you want, But what

0:58:26.400 --> 0:58:28.440
<v Speaker 1>are we in the midst of here? Is he trying

0:58:28.480 --> 0:58:30.920
<v Speaker 1>to get back to basics or is he trying to

0:58:30.960 --> 0:58:32.360
<v Speaker 1>do something different with this team.

0:58:33.320 --> 0:58:35.040
<v Speaker 2>I think he's going to try to do something a

0:58:35.120 --> 0:58:38.960
<v Speaker 2>little bit differently with the same Stanford DNA, as much

0:58:39.000 --> 0:58:41.360
<v Speaker 2>as that sort of conflicts as a sentence, I think

0:58:41.400 --> 0:58:46.080
<v Speaker 2>they're going to still play relatively in a relatively conservative fashion.

0:58:46.200 --> 0:58:48.480
<v Speaker 2>But when they saw that the run was not there

0:58:48.560 --> 0:58:51.760
<v Speaker 2>last year, they leaned heavily on with a Cadence Smith

0:58:51.800 --> 0:58:52.960
<v Speaker 2>and Kolby Parkinson and.

0:58:52.960 --> 0:58:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Jj are.

0:58:55.240 --> 0:58:58.760
<v Speaker 2>Fago Whiteside and Trent Or when they really started to

0:58:58.760 --> 0:59:00.280
<v Speaker 2>air it out and throw the ball down field, and

0:59:00.280 --> 0:59:02.320
<v Speaker 2>when they had success it was because of that, and

0:59:02.720 --> 0:59:04.640
<v Speaker 2>Bryce Love was beat up and certainly didn't have the

0:59:04.880 --> 0:59:08.240
<v Speaker 2>return season that he thought he would. So I don't

0:59:08.280 --> 0:59:11.560
<v Speaker 2>think they are going to be putting in ten offensive

0:59:11.600 --> 0:59:14.400
<v Speaker 2>linemen at the same time like they were wont to

0:59:14.400 --> 0:59:17.080
<v Speaker 2>do in year's past. But I think they're still going

0:59:17.120 --> 0:59:21.800
<v Speaker 2>to try to be that team that uses power to

0:59:21.880 --> 0:59:24.320
<v Speaker 2>set up downfield stuff to set up play action. I

0:59:24.400 --> 0:59:26.440
<v Speaker 2>just don't think they're going to get the same amount

0:59:26.440 --> 0:59:30.439
<v Speaker 2>of success doing so, and they will adjust accordingly. They'll

0:59:30.440 --> 0:59:32.240
<v Speaker 2>throw on first down a little bit more. They're going

0:59:32.280 --> 0:59:33.560
<v Speaker 2>to air it out a little bit more. I know

0:59:33.600 --> 0:59:37.480
<v Speaker 2>they don't have necessarily the game changing receivers, but the

0:59:37.800 --> 0:59:40.880
<v Speaker 2>Kolbe Parkinson's still there, and he's a very good tight end.

0:59:41.720 --> 0:59:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Cameron Scarlett's guy at running back. I'm curious to see

0:59:44.960 --> 0:59:48.040
<v Speaker 2>what they look like because kJ Costello is very quietly

0:59:48.440 --> 0:59:50.320
<v Speaker 2>maybe the most talented quarterback in the conference.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, next my question was going to be about kJ

0:59:52.600 --> 0:59:56.520
<v Speaker 1>Costello because it does seem as if now they're trying

0:59:56.520 --> 0:59:58.600
<v Speaker 1>to run the offense through him. For a while, it

0:59:58.720 --> 1:00:02.520
<v Speaker 1>was Christian McCaffrey and then Bryce Love sure, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know they got serviceable play out of guys like Kevin Hogan.

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<v Speaker 1>But not since Andrew Luck have we really had a

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback around whom it felt, Oh, David Shaw was truly building.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we've got that now with kJ Costello, don't.

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<v Speaker 2>We First of all, First of all, in this house,

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<v Speaker 2>we celebrate Kevin Hogan. Kevin Hogan was really good. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not diminishing Kevin Hogan. Did he in the NFL for

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit?

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea. I don't care, I don't That's

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<v Speaker 1>not what I do on Sunday. Well, I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 1>he was pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>He was zone right at least he was a long

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<v Speaker 2>time starter who won big games and big got them

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<v Speaker 2>to big ball games. I mean, they weren't going to

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<v Speaker 2>Rose Bull. After Rosebull. They were in a great place

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<v Speaker 2>with Kevin Hogan. Kevin Hogan was fine. They weren't building

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<v Speaker 2>around him like he was Andrew Luck. Yes, in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of talent, throwing the ball downfield, and size and athleticism,

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<v Speaker 2>kJ Costello is you know, every pretty much every team

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<v Speaker 2>in the country should be jealous outside of about five

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<v Speaker 2>or six that Stanford has, kJ Costell. The big question

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<v Speaker 2>to me is what can the defense do in doing

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<v Speaker 2>their part because last year we saw a backslide that

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<v Speaker 2>was unexpected given where Stanford was defensively even three, four

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<v Speaker 2>or five years ago, putting out top ten fifteen defenses nationally.

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<v Speaker 2>So at end, they're pretty strong on the line, they're

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good at outside linebacker. It's up the middle, which

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<v Speaker 2>seems to be an issue everywhere in the Pac twelve North.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems up the middle, you know, playing tackle, playing inside,

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<v Speaker 2>on the linebacking core. They're pretty thin there. They have

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I don't know if he's the best corner in

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<v Speaker 2>the conference. But Paul Sinadibo is he's a ball howking

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<v Speaker 2>star tie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Everywhere else though in that secondary is sort of wait

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<v Speaker 2>and see. But I think having they have pieces to

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<v Speaker 2>potentially have not a special but a pretty good defense,

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<v Speaker 2>which would be an improvement. So I'm not with Stanford

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<v Speaker 2>where I am with Utah and Tyler Huntley in their defense,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think potentially they could be close. I like

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<v Speaker 2>Lance Anderson as a defensive coordinator. So I'm buying Stanford

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<v Speaker 2>stock like I tend to do this time of year. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>always always buying Stanford. But we talk about how USC

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<v Speaker 2>opens the year and a couple of other openers. Stanford's

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<v Speaker 2>got themselves September.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, if you're talking about defense, dan yeah being a

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<v Speaker 1>question mark. Look at the schedule. You don't like what

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<v Speaker 1>you see through the first six weeks of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>They open up at home against Northwestern, which wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>That the body Clock game a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>It's weird, weird, long longer ago than that. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's what Hunter Johnson's team now. Hunter Johnson's team.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. We're going to preview the Big Ten next that'll

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<v Speaker 1>be on Wednesday, so stay tuned for that. But then

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<v Speaker 1>at USC in week two, at UCF in week three,

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<v Speaker 1>which is intriguing. It's Wimbush time. Oregon back home the

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<v Speaker 1>following week. Should have lost last year but pulled it out.

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<v Speaker 1>There's an Oregon State road game in there before they

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<v Speaker 1>come back home against Washington. That's all before the bye

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<v Speaker 1>week on oct Over the twelfth. So defense is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a real question mark through the first half

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<v Speaker 1>of that schedule at least.

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<v Speaker 2>So the good news is, I mean, talk about Utah

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<v Speaker 2>missing Stanford, then it's probably good that Stanford misses Utah

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<v Speaker 2>of their drive towards getting back near the double digit

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<v Speaker 2>win and mark of their schedule of their program. So

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<v Speaker 2>the back half of their schedule is at least manageable

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<v Speaker 2>in that there's not two brutal weeks in a row.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Washington, Ucla, Arizona, Colorado. They have Wazoo before Cal,

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<v Speaker 2>which I think is striking in their differences, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>on the road in Pullman, and they have Cal the

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<v Speaker 2>week before Notre Dame, right, so they have the wonky

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<v Speaker 2>rivalry game with Cal before the end of their season.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's a tough schedule for sure, but having a

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback who can I think you're feeling confident at least,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, down three with a minute forty seven left,

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, all right, we're not out of it. Where

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<v Speaker 2>some teams you're down closely you're like, well it was nice.

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<v Speaker 2>So I like that about Stanford. I don't think they're

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<v Speaker 2>getting a double digit wins, but I think they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be. They're going to be a more interesting, impressive

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<v Speaker 2>team this fall. I want to stay with you and

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<v Speaker 2>talk about Cal now, Okay, so I love talking about Cal.

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<v Speaker 1>I love Cal. Here's the question, and I am rooting

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<v Speaker 1>for Cal. I was really high on Cal a year ago,

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<v Speaker 1>m and that didn't work out. The whole Bauer hour

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<v Speaker 1>thing was sort of a disaster. Yeah, I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's no longer the quarterback. But we're at a

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<v Speaker 1>place now where we look at Cal and I think

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<v Speaker 1>we're both pretty excited about the defense. But the offense

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<v Speaker 1>is a huge question mark, and I'm just wondering if

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<v Speaker 1>there's any way to avoid Cal being one of those

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<v Speaker 1>teams that we joke about halfway through the year being

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<v Speaker 1>one of the half teams where they're really good on

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<v Speaker 1>one side, of the ball and then aggressively mediocre on

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<v Speaker 1>the other.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Man, that would be that's aggressively mediocre. Is the

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<v Speaker 2>nicest thing that anybody has said about the twenty eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>Cal offense. No, those those half teams, whether it was

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<v Speaker 2>the Boston College there was the last Don Brown Boston

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<v Speaker 2>College defense and what they looked like on offense. What

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<v Speaker 2>twenty fifteen miszoo, you know, the Texas Tech teams during

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<v Speaker 2>the Cliff Kingsbury time, there were some horrid units on

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<v Speaker 2>the other side of the field from a pretty excellent

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<v Speaker 2>one and that was It's no different.

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<v Speaker 1>With Cal last year. So is there hope this year

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<v Speaker 1>that they.

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<v Speaker 2>That they're like a seventy two percenter instead of a

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<v Speaker 2>half team? Yeah, yes, probably.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you feel that way about this offense?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it could be a different Starting quarterback Chase Garber's

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't great, but it could be. Was it Devon Modster,

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<v Speaker 2>the UCLA transfer they're battling right now. Yeah, Brandon mcawayane's

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<v Speaker 2>moving to running back. Chris Brown was at least serviceable.

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<v Speaker 2>They get CoA Crawford, the Michigan transfer receiver, They've only

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<v Speaker 2>gotten more talented. They were basically only okay, on offense

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<v Speaker 2>running the ball was Patrick Laird last year and he's

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<v Speaker 2>gone on. But with how much they return on defense,

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<v Speaker 2>I understand that means the degree to which their half

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<v Speaker 2>team can only go up because on all three levels

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<v Speaker 2>they're bringing back their best players essentially. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>it has to get better. I think they reached rock bottom,

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<v Speaker 2>so I think they can simply be bad. I think

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<v Speaker 2>they can simply be not great, and that would lift

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<v Speaker 2>them up. They win what they go seven to five

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<v Speaker 2>last year with nothing on offense correct, and then I

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<v Speaker 2>mean it's what six and six if you include the

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<v Speaker 2>bowl game and the fact that one of those wins

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<v Speaker 2>was against an FCS team, but nothing the ugliest bowl

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<v Speaker 2>game in the best possible way in the Cheese Bowl

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<v Speaker 2>against TCU, and they're a bowl team with nothing on offense. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 2>they lose their best receiver before the season starts last

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<v Speaker 2>year to transfer. I think it's something to build on.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're like, Okay, well we were able to

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<v Speaker 2>win without an offense, so even if we have a little,

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<v Speaker 2>it's an improvement, and so I think they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get there. I think they can get to not great,

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<v Speaker 2>win an extra game and go to eight and four

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<v Speaker 2>as a best case is six and six, five and seven.

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<v Speaker 2>But man Evan Weaver and Cameron Good it's probably the

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<v Speaker 2>best linebacker duo in the conference.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Up front, Luke Beckett was a monster at times last year,

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<v Speaker 2>especially that USC game. And then these are both not

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<v Speaker 2>their best units on defense because their secondary is locked

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<v Speaker 2>in with you know, Ashton Davis is an All American

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<v Speaker 2>caliber safety. Jalen Hawkins also really good at safety, and

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<v Speaker 2>then they've had Cam bindenm and Elijah Hicks on both

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<v Speaker 2>sides for what feels like eleven years at corner. They're

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<v Speaker 2>so locked in on defense that the offense is going

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<v Speaker 2>to have every advantage the offense should be starting on

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<v Speaker 2>third base. And so for that reason, for that reason,

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<v Speaker 2>my chips are being pushed to the center of the table.

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<v Speaker 2>Not that KL is going to be a good team,

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<v Speaker 2>but that KL is going to be a nasty team.

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<v Speaker 1>If Kl's a nasty team. Am I allowed to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Evan Weaver as the newfound dream Weaver in sing this? Sure?

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<v Speaker 2>But you got to keep it going all season long

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<v Speaker 2>through thick and thin dream Weaver.

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<v Speaker 1>How's that also nasty time? But Cal?

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<v Speaker 2>The CAL defense is legitimately fun to watch. Evan Weaver

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<v Speaker 2>is a converted defensive lineman and just wrecking shop had

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<v Speaker 2>like one hundred and fifty some odd tackles last year.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it all Right? Do you want to answer

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<v Speaker 1>the final question on your side? And then I'll get

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<v Speaker 1>three in a row? Oh my gosh. Sure you want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk Oregon State football. I want to talk Oregon

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<v Speaker 1>State football. Our friend Bill Connolly. Bill Connolly has Oregon

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<v Speaker 1>State projected for two point six wins this year. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>one of them is over cal Poly. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>know who the other one is over, and I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to read the Oregon State schedule here. I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to tell me who you think the most likely second

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<v Speaker 1>victory or third victory, if you're feeling dangerous, would be over. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're ready, Yep, I'm ready. First week of the year,

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<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma State at home.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't have a quarterback. I'm not confident though, so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to say no at whole.

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<v Speaker 1>Second week of the year. Possible, possible. Why is it

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<v Speaker 1>tough out, but possible?

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<v Speaker 2>Cal Poly pretty much by the way, shout out San

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<v Speaker 2>Luis Obispo.

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<v Speaker 1>I would move there in a second. Then we get

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<v Speaker 1>into the real meat out of the PAC twelve schedule

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<v Speaker 1>home against Stanford.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're a believer in the body blow theory. Stanford

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<v Speaker 2>has Oregon the week before, they play Oregon State. Two

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<v Speaker 2>teams that are just going to be mashing each other

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<v Speaker 2>on in the trenches.

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<v Speaker 1>Next week at UCLA, I don't think they.

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<v Speaker 2>Get the UCLA defense in the stronger part of Oregon States.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely be offense. They have Jamar Jefferson maybe the best

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<v Speaker 2>running back in the country. You've probably never seen, good

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<v Speaker 2>shape of receiver, offensive lines, experience not great, but not bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Home against Utah, tough to Utah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they have Wazoo the week before, as we mentioned,

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<v Speaker 2>which is tough, tough game. That's Utah is going to

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<v Speaker 2>probably win that game.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. At Cal at Arizona, Washington, Arizona State, at Wazoo

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<v Speaker 1>at Oregon. Can you find another win in there that

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<v Speaker 1>you're confident in outside Cal Poly, Yes.

1:10:09.160 --> 1:10:11.800
<v Speaker 2>They don't have Colorado, who they beat in Boulder last

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<v Speaker 2>year in overtime, right, Yes, so that's too bad for

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<v Speaker 2>my case. It's gonna be on the road at UCLA

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<v Speaker 2>or at Cal. I think is the most likely because

1:10:21.479 --> 1:10:24.080
<v Speaker 2>those are two teams with pretty big questions on one

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<v Speaker 2>side of the ball, and it happens to be that

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<v Speaker 2>UCLA's defense is not great, and there's Oregon State's strength,

1:10:30.320 --> 1:10:33.679
<v Speaker 2>and Cal's offense isn't great, so perhaps they can't again

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<v Speaker 2>take advantage of Oregon State's pretty lackluster defense. So one

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<v Speaker 2>of those is where the win's going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Do we feel like Oregon State showed signs of promise

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<v Speaker 1>last year? Oh? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>They were down a touchdown to USC going into the

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<v Speaker 2>fourth quarter, they were down five going into the fourth

1:10:51.800 --> 1:10:56.200
<v Speaker 2>quarter against Washington State, and they beat Colorado in Boulder.

1:10:56.520 --> 1:10:58.439
<v Speaker 2>They ran all over Ohio State for a chunk of

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<v Speaker 2>that game, and I think they beat Colorado with that

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<v Speaker 2>Labiska chanault. But like your favorite word, that the feistiness

1:11:05.840 --> 1:11:08.959
<v Speaker 2>was there for long stretches, which is all things considered,

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<v Speaker 2>not so bad.

1:11:10.120 --> 1:11:12.519
<v Speaker 1>What do they need to do in twenty nineteen for

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<v Speaker 1>you to continue feeling like they've got things going in

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<v Speaker 1>a good direction.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's run the ball. I mean, if their offense

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<v Speaker 2>is average, which it definitely can be, whether it's Jake

1:11:24.640 --> 1:11:29.800
<v Speaker 2>Luton or Luton Luton, Free Luton Luton Luton or the

1:11:30.120 --> 1:11:36.080
<v Speaker 2>Nebraska transfer Tristan Gebia Jebia. Yeah, I mean what Jonathan

1:11:36.080 --> 1:11:39.200
<v Speaker 2>Smith did at Washington, if he can be seventy percent

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<v Speaker 2>of that this year. If the Oregon State offense, they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a not fun team to play. That's

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<v Speaker 2>as nice as I can probably say about them. Because

1:11:47.439 --> 1:11:50.960
<v Speaker 2>the defense is it's improving at a very slow pace,

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<v Speaker 2>not like the offense is. The offense has gotten good transfers.

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<v Speaker 2>It's what the Nebraska quarterback anti John Lindsay comes from Nebraska,

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<v Speaker 2>who is a former blue chip a linebacker's gotten a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit better. So yeah, I think the best case

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<v Speaker 2>scenario for them is the offense is legitimately okay and

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<v Speaker 2>the defense is only not great, just to take phrasing

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<v Speaker 2>from other teams, and the best case is they go.

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<v Speaker 1>Four and eight four innate. I would agree with that.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's more of the same and the offense isn't

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<v Speaker 2>good enough to overcome a still lowly defense, it's two

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<v Speaker 2>and ten again probably all right, And even then you

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<v Speaker 2>were searching for that second win, So I guess it

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<v Speaker 2>might be two ten, one and eleven, But I'm more

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<v Speaker 2>confident in two to four wins than anything else.

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you want to go next year?

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<v Speaker 2>Three left all right, let's go to Asu because you

1:12:39.560 --> 1:12:43.559
<v Speaker 2>told me earlier that you feel the tingles about Asu.

1:12:44.160 --> 1:12:46.400
<v Speaker 1>I do. I do feel the tingles, Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, let's hone in on a more specific question

1:12:52.280 --> 1:12:57.160
<v Speaker 2>about Asu other than something about your tingles. Their offensive

1:12:57.160 --> 1:13:00.360
<v Speaker 2>output was pretty similar in twenty seventeen and eighteen between

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<v Speaker 2>the Todd Graham and Herm Edwards era, but the defense

1:13:02.880 --> 1:13:06.600
<v Speaker 2>last year took a pretty impressive step forward. Where's the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty nineteen jump more defense or the offense with a

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<v Speaker 2>new quarterback makes a jump after they didn't last year?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's a tough question for me to answer because

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<v Speaker 1>I s feel like the quarterback competition, at least as

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<v Speaker 1>of now, is really a race to see you who

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<v Speaker 1>hands the ball off to Eno Benjamin a thousand times

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<v Speaker 1>this year, which is the smart thing, And there's not

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of depth along that line, so they've all

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<v Speaker 1>got to stay healthy. But at least on paper, the

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<v Speaker 1>running game looks like it's going to be in a

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<v Speaker 1>good spot with Eno Benjamin again and they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>probably give him the ball a ton. So I guess

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<v Speaker 1>with that being said, I'm looking at defense as my

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<v Speaker 1>biggest question mark. We'll talk about the quarterback position really momentarily. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just I got a lot of nice players there.

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<v Speaker 1>They do, they do. I'd like to see him take

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<v Speaker 1>another step forward. The defensive line sees some turnover. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking forward to seeing a lot more of Jermaine Woll,

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<v Speaker 1>who looked great as a true freshman a year ago.

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<v Speaker 1>He did. Very excited to see him. And a really

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<v Speaker 1>exciting linebacker corps as well, with Merlin Robertson and Darien

1:14:22.479 --> 1:14:24.880
<v Speaker 1>You ever see a picture of Merlin Robertson. Oh he's

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<v Speaker 1>a monster. It's a man. He's forty. Yeah, Tyler Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>also in the linebacking corps. I've got it bolded here

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<v Speaker 1>on my note sheet. They're very, very stout. The secondary

1:14:36.160 --> 1:14:39.040
<v Speaker 1>is developing. Both corners are back. Should see some improvement

1:14:39.080 --> 1:14:43.759
<v Speaker 1>at safety now. If they can collectively grow and get better,

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<v Speaker 1>that's an asset to have in the Pac twelve, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>a true asset to have. They can take a step

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<v Speaker 1>forward there. I think it serves them well. It also

1:14:51.800 --> 1:14:55.000
<v Speaker 1>serves them well in some of these road games that

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<v Speaker 1>they have. I'm looking at Michigan State in Week three,

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<v Speaker 1>which is I'm viewing that as a Bell Weather game.

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<v Speaker 1>Michigan State has like nineteen starters back this year. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>not the most exciting team in college football, but it's

1:15:07.640 --> 1:15:09.040
<v Speaker 1>a veteran group nonetheless.

1:15:09.280 --> 1:15:12.840
<v Speaker 2>And their offensive coordinators was their PA announcer last year,

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<v Speaker 2>and their defensive coordinator was the mascot he played Sparty

1:15:15.800 --> 1:15:19.360
<v Speaker 2>last year. The defensive line coach ran the website up

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<v Speaker 2>Charizo alarm.

1:15:21.200 --> 1:15:24.280
<v Speaker 1>Your alarm's going off just in the nake of time here. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>My point is this, I think they need that defense

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<v Speaker 1>as a stabilizing force while they try to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>what exactly they're doing on offense with their new quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, with their line. They got that road game

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<v Speaker 1>in Week three against Michigan State, which is important elsewhere,

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<v Speaker 1>a road game in mid October against Utah which will

1:15:44.520 --> 1:15:48.680
<v Speaker 1>be tough, home against Wazoo, USC and Oregon. The schedule

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<v Speaker 1>works out, Okay. I feel really good about ASU getting

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<v Speaker 1>to eight wins, maybe even more. Wow, I do I

1:15:57.040 --> 1:16:01.040
<v Speaker 1>really do? My biggest question though, not where's the jump

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<v Speaker 1>going to be? My biggest question is on offense. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what it look like throwing the ball? Right now? The

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<v Speaker 1>favorite at starting quarterbacks seems to be Dylan Sterling. Cole

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<v Speaker 1>mm Hm he's a junior, but there's a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>steam on Jaden Daniels, who's a four star true freshman,

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<v Speaker 1>got an offer from Bama and a handful of other

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<v Speaker 1>West Coast schools with picked ASU. He was really good

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<v Speaker 1>in spring. He opened a lot of eyes. He may

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<v Speaker 1>not be the guy right away, but I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>only a matter of time before we see him.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I don't know if who's who's catching those passes

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<v Speaker 2>because Nikhil Harry, I mean, Frank Darby is very good too,

1:16:37.560 --> 1:16:39.479
<v Speaker 2>but Nikhil Harry was such a big part both in

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<v Speaker 2>what he did and his his gravity exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think initially the focal point of the offense

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be handing the ball off to Eno

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<v Speaker 1>Benjamin m hm. He does have experience blocking in front

1:16:52.439 --> 1:16:54.599
<v Speaker 1>of him, but just not a lot of depth. So

1:16:54.680 --> 1:16:57.000
<v Speaker 1>staying healthy up there is going to be the key.

1:16:57.680 --> 1:17:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Running backs should be in the pretty good spot given it.

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<v Speaker 1>Eno Benjamin and he had a ton of work last year.

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<v Speaker 1>But Nikhil Harry's gone out wide, as you said, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think the wide receiving corp is fine. They just

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have a weapon like Nikhil Harry. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>have that alpha, that true playmaker that when you look

1:17:13.360 --> 1:17:15.839
<v Speaker 1>at the depth chart, that's who they're going to be targeting.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that guy needs to develop in order

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<v Speaker 1>for me to feel better about this offense. Is certainly

1:17:22.880 --> 1:17:25.439
<v Speaker 1>the wide receiving corps is only a bit of a

1:17:25.479 --> 1:17:28.599
<v Speaker 1>safety valve. Yeah. I mean I'm not going to feel

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<v Speaker 1>great about the quarterback position until that true number one

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<v Speaker 1>target develops. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And the good news is so the games they lose,

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<v Speaker 2>they're competitive in. They lose to Oregon by too late,

1:17:40.920 --> 1:17:43.080
<v Speaker 2>Stanford was close, Colorado was close, and that's not a

1:17:43.080 --> 1:17:46.240
<v Speaker 2>great loss losing Colorado last year, but the Washington game

1:17:46.280 --> 1:17:48.760
<v Speaker 2>was very close. San Diego State probably shouldn't have lost

1:17:48.800 --> 1:17:50.439
<v Speaker 2>San Diego State. It was not a great ass tag

1:17:50.479 --> 1:17:54.000
<v Speaker 2>team last year, but even in their losses, they never

1:17:54.280 --> 1:17:57.800
<v Speaker 2>were outclassed by anybody and perhaps until Presno State in

1:17:57.800 --> 1:18:01.760
<v Speaker 2>the bowl game. But it's something that I feel a

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<v Speaker 2>lot better than I thought I would going into the

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<v Speaker 2>Herm Edant Sarah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel for as much fun as we made

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<v Speaker 1>of Herm Edwards and the awkward introduction at ASU, this

1:18:14.040 --> 1:18:15.920
<v Speaker 1>is a pretty good team. This is this is a

1:18:15.960 --> 1:18:18.120
<v Speaker 1>pretty good team. They've got a good defense. They got

1:18:18.160 --> 1:18:20.280
<v Speaker 1>to figure out quarterback, they got to stay healthy along

1:18:20.280 --> 1:18:23.599
<v Speaker 1>the line. But there are weapons here. If they can

1:18:23.640 --> 1:18:26.400
<v Speaker 1>figure it all out and piece piece the machine back together,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it. I think it's gonna be a good

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<v Speaker 1>year for Issue. So I'm excited about them not going

1:18:31.360 --> 1:18:32.800
<v Speaker 1>crazy like I did a couple of years ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>I picked them to the playoff. Yeah, but this this

1:18:36.360 --> 1:18:38.000
<v Speaker 1>should be a pretty good team in the Pac twelve.

1:18:38.560 --> 1:18:40.720
<v Speaker 1>I like it. I like no more sitting on the

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<v Speaker 1>fence for ty hilden brand I'm not not at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are we going next? All right, let's go. Let's

1:18:46.120 --> 1:18:48.000
<v Speaker 1>go to Colorado. I want to go back to Boulder.

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<v Speaker 1>I miss Boulder. The number one thing. I believe you.

1:18:53.080 --> 1:18:56.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about you, Tyler hilden Brandt. To be most confident,

1:18:56.720 --> 1:19:00.439
<v Speaker 2>it is your boy. Stevie Montes to Laviska shanof Scott

1:19:00.439 --> 1:19:01.240
<v Speaker 2>Stevie Montes.

1:19:01.280 --> 1:19:04.479
<v Speaker 1>Stevie Montes feels like he's been there about as long

1:19:04.520 --> 1:19:09.120
<v Speaker 1>as Joel Stave was at Wisconsin. There's something about the

1:19:09.200 --> 1:19:11.200
<v Speaker 1>Mountain region. Let's go through it.

1:19:11.479 --> 1:19:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Kellen Moore and Brett Rippon eleven years a piece of

1:19:14.040 --> 1:19:19.240
<v Speaker 2>pois state. Sure, Taysom Hill, Chuckie, Keaton Tanner Mangum is

1:19:19.280 --> 1:19:21.040
<v Speaker 2>going to be what a true sophomore this year?

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<v Speaker 1>I think so.

1:19:22.400 --> 1:19:27.559
<v Speaker 2>There's something about that Idaho, Utah, Colorado triad that that

1:19:27.680 --> 1:19:30.400
<v Speaker 2>keeps people young in playing college football for many, many years.

1:19:30.479 --> 1:19:32.599
<v Speaker 1>If you went, if you went to one hundred college

1:19:32.600 --> 1:19:37.200
<v Speaker 1>football fans, yeah and ask them, is Kellen Moore playing

1:19:37.280 --> 1:19:40.360
<v Speaker 1>quarterback this year for Boise State? What percentage would answer? Yes?

1:19:41.840 --> 1:19:43.800
<v Speaker 2>They would there would there would be eight percent, no,

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<v Speaker 2>fourteen percent of people. I was like, the sort of

1:19:46.240 --> 1:19:51.080
<v Speaker 2>skinny lefty Yeah, yeah, I think he Yeah, I think

1:19:51.120 --> 1:19:52.360
<v Speaker 2>I saw him in a preview.

1:19:52.520 --> 1:19:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's back. Could you get to forty percent with that?

1:19:55.000 --> 1:19:58.919
<v Speaker 1>I think you could. Is he not the Dallas Cowboys

1:19:58.920 --> 1:20:01.639
<v Speaker 1>offensive coordinator? Now he's something like that, He's I think

1:20:01.680 --> 1:20:04.760
<v Speaker 1>he's done well for himself. But to your point, I'm

1:20:04.800 --> 1:20:07.439
<v Speaker 1>not sure college football fans that don't listen to our

1:20:07.479 --> 1:20:09.280
<v Speaker 1>show would know that that's it's.

1:20:09.160 --> 1:20:13.839
<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent true. So those that connection Stevie montees

1:20:14.000 --> 1:20:18.240
<v Speaker 2>Lavisque Schnaults, we know that's gonna make for like a fun,

1:20:18.360 --> 1:20:22.240
<v Speaker 2>lethal stew Right good situation. Yeah, especially since Katie Nixon

1:20:22.280 --> 1:20:24.759
<v Speaker 2>is also there and take some of the attention away.

1:20:25.479 --> 1:20:27.960
<v Speaker 2>But if you were to turn that stew into a

1:20:28.000 --> 1:20:32.960
<v Speaker 2>complete meal tie, what is what is the buff's best

1:20:33.200 --> 1:20:38.439
<v Speaker 2>side dish to go back to a bowl with. I

1:20:38.439 --> 1:20:40.280
<v Speaker 2>don't know where I'm going with this comparison, but what's

1:20:40.280 --> 1:20:41.840
<v Speaker 2>the side dish if that's the number one thing?

1:20:41.880 --> 1:20:45.320
<v Speaker 1>If it is all right? Well, first off, let me

1:20:45.400 --> 1:20:48.600
<v Speaker 1>back up here. Colorado was a new coach, Yes they do.

1:20:49.080 --> 1:20:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Colorado went five and seventy year ago. Their new coach

1:20:51.439 --> 1:20:55.320
<v Speaker 1>is Mel Tucker. He's been a defensive guy his entire career,

1:20:55.840 --> 1:20:59.439
<v Speaker 1>most recently at Georgia and Alabama, but way back when

1:20:59.640 --> 1:21:02.040
<v Speaker 1>was at LSU and Ohio State. And he's got some

1:21:02.120 --> 1:21:05.240
<v Speaker 1>experience in the NFL, so he's been around, good experience

1:21:05.240 --> 1:21:08.360
<v Speaker 1>on the defensive side of the ball. As you said,

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<v Speaker 1>good situation for him in year one with Stevie Montes

1:21:11.760 --> 1:21:15.320
<v Speaker 1>our boy and La Discas Shenault also our boy, Everyone's boy.

1:21:15.360 --> 1:21:19.320
<v Speaker 1>Really yeah, of course, less than ideal situation along the line,

1:21:19.960 --> 1:21:22.800
<v Speaker 1>loses three starters, loses his top two running backs as well.

1:21:23.479 --> 1:21:27.240
<v Speaker 1>Not feeling very optimistic about that offense outside of the

1:21:27.320 --> 1:21:32.040
<v Speaker 1>Stevie Lniska combo. I'm intrigued by their defense though, because

1:21:32.040 --> 1:21:35.200
<v Speaker 1>they're very young and this is a defensive minded coach.

1:21:35.760 --> 1:21:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Mustafa Johnson is the most experienced member of the front

1:21:40.000 --> 1:21:43.479
<v Speaker 1>seven and he's just a junior. And I think, I

1:21:43.600 --> 1:21:46.280
<v Speaker 1>just I keep coming back to this. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>works really well for mel Tucker. Maybe not this year,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe in year's two and three, Okay, and probably not

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<v Speaker 1>with this schedule, but I'm just so curious to see

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<v Speaker 1>what he does with the defense, with a defense this

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<v Speaker 1>young that I guess, if I'm forced to pick, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the side dish that I'm intrigued by. You know, that

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<v Speaker 1>front of defense. That's the stuffing mixed with pineapple, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe not my first choice, but it's intriguing stuffing

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<v Speaker 1>in pineapple zoo? Do you put pineapple in you? You

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<v Speaker 1>can make pineapple stuffing? Yeah? Is that something that you

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<v Speaker 1>would be on your Thanksgiving table in the right situation.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying, like, it's like that. It's interesting. I

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<v Speaker 1>just thought you that's the first thing you went to

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<v Speaker 1>as a side dish. It's I don't know, Dan, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been a long day at the mysterious day job. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>standing up. It's the last team we're talking Colorado. Give

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<v Speaker 1>me a break here. Okay, all right, you've earned a break. God.

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<v Speaker 2>So what what does their schedule look like? That seems

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<v Speaker 2>unmanageable to you?

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<v Speaker 1>Nebraska Week two? Yeah, at Arizona State, at Oregon, at

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<v Speaker 1>Wazoo home against USC. They close out the year with Stanford,

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<v Speaker 1>Washington and at utah Mm hmm. That ain't easy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think they're gonna be interesting on offense. It's

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<v Speaker 2>it's tough to find because they started the season out

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<v Speaker 2>so well last year and just completely collapse. And some

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<v Speaker 2>of that obviously has to do with key injuries at

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<v Speaker 2>a couple different places, but it's going to take a while.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard for me to see them as a bowl

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<v Speaker 2>team unless they're just over the top explosive on offense

1:23:15.400 --> 1:23:18.080
<v Speaker 2>and they win those fifty to fifty games. They won

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<v Speaker 2>that game against Nebraska last year with the wild.

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<v Speaker 1>Ending, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>But the Huskers are a much better place in Colorado.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they're better or worse, but they're

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<v Speaker 2>in a much newer place with a new coach and

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<v Speaker 2>a new staff calling plays. So it's tough for me

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<v Speaker 2>to see them bowl eligible this year.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think I'm with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Saying that, you know what, and I think there's more

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<v Speaker 2>talent there than we might think about with how they

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<v Speaker 2>finished out last year. The defense has gotten too a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty interesting place. They have good receivers. It's just the

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<v Speaker 2>week to week consistency with As you mentioned, Roade Oregon road,

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<v Speaker 2>Wazoo playing at UCLA is not particularly tough. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the quote unquote rivalry game against you on the road,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's rough, man.

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<v Speaker 1>It just is. End of the year is really tough. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and you'd know the wins. You hope that maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>get better by that stage of the season. But Stanford

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<v Speaker 1>Washington at Utah not the easiest way to close out

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<v Speaker 1>your campaign.

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<v Speaker 2>No, And it could be an even feistter UCLA team.

1:24:19.400 --> 1:24:21.960
<v Speaker 2>It could be a wide open, fun usc team. And

1:24:21.960 --> 1:24:24.679
<v Speaker 2>we know Wazoo is just going to be, if nothing else,

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<v Speaker 2>an incredibly tough out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I don't know. I mean the back half.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the hire of Mel Tucker, and we've had

1:24:33.000 --> 1:24:36.080
<v Speaker 1>guests on this show throughout the off season saying that

1:24:36.120 --> 1:24:39.080
<v Speaker 1>Mel Tucker seemingly is a pretty good hire. I'll hire

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<v Speaker 1>that people are excited about. Yeah, I think I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that camp it's just it's like so many other programs,

1:24:45.280 --> 1:24:46.920
<v Speaker 1>it's going to take a while to get there. Like that,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got a young defense that he can mold and

1:24:49.680 --> 1:24:52.719
<v Speaker 1>at least in year one Stevie Montes Laviska Chanault should

1:24:53.520 --> 1:24:55.040
<v Speaker 1>make these games very watchable.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing that has me a little bit worried, and

1:24:57.920 --> 1:25:00.719
<v Speaker 2>maybe this is has been adjusted and maybe the attitude

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<v Speaker 2>has changed a little bit, But when he got there,

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<v Speaker 2>the sort of cliches that he gave and his press

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<v Speaker 2>conference is just we're going to be old school, yeah tough,

1:25:09.439 --> 1:25:11.280
<v Speaker 2>We're going to you know, we're gonna run the wall

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<v Speaker 2>and that. First of all, it doesn't mean anything either

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<v Speaker 2>way necessarily, but that mindset, I think gets in the

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<v Speaker 2>way of progress, gets in the way of interesting hires

1:25:21.120 --> 1:25:26.439
<v Speaker 2>to run an offense that you are locked into ways

1:25:26.520 --> 1:25:29.719
<v Speaker 2>that will set you back instead of moving you forward.

1:25:29.920 --> 1:25:32.799
<v Speaker 2>But I'm hopeful, I'm hopeful because of his experience on defense,

1:25:32.840 --> 1:25:35.960
<v Speaker 2>that you know, the defense is going to jump from

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<v Speaker 2>being okay to pretty good pretty quickly, because I believe

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<v Speaker 2>in him as a recruiter and I believe in him

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<v Speaker 2>as somebody who can put together a nice defense.

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<v Speaker 1>Alrighty, there you have it all twelve of the PAC

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<v Speaker 1>twelve here on the show. Please do right Insuli Verbal

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<v Speaker 1>Let us know what we got right, what we got wrong,

1:25:56.600 --> 1:25:59.519
<v Speaker 1>who you're picking to win the conference? Doing our best

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<v Speaker 1>here to try and go through all the teams. Give

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<v Speaker 1>you a portal into what's going on at all twelve

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<v Speaker 1>of these schools and really all of the Power five

1:26:07.760 --> 1:26:10.240
<v Speaker 1>schools and some group of fives. As we progress through

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<v Speaker 1>here the month of August talking about like twenty nineteen

1:26:14.680 --> 1:26:19.880
<v Speaker 1>college football season. Dan. One final note, please Dan, please,

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<v Speaker 1>only a few days left. I need you to make

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<v Speaker 1>your most desperate plea to all the reballers who might

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<v Speaker 1>be in North Texas. Might be a plea see area.

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<v Speaker 1>Please do give us your best sell job for why

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<v Speaker 1>they should come out to the show.

1:26:34.479 --> 1:26:38.120
<v Speaker 2>We don't need them. I don't need to plead with them.

1:26:38.720 --> 1:26:41.639
<v Speaker 2>They know what they're getting with us. They're gonna show,

1:26:42.200 --> 1:26:44.920
<v Speaker 2>not just two people talking on stage. You're gonna show.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna plead with you. You should come. I think

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<v Speaker 2>you should come, and it's gonna be a great time.

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<v Speaker 2>I cannot wait to do these shows. We got a

1:26:51.600 --> 1:26:53.800
<v Speaker 2>bunch of different things planned it's gonna be a great

1:26:53.840 --> 1:26:55.720
<v Speaker 2>time coming out at the Alamo Draft House. We have

1:26:55.720 --> 1:26:58.000
<v Speaker 2>a big old screen behind us doing stuff on the screen.

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<v Speaker 2>Same with DC and Union State. I've got a couple

1:27:01.479 --> 1:27:05.600
<v Speaker 2>of incredible shows planned and just the dancing, the spectacle,

1:27:05.720 --> 1:27:10.120
<v Speaker 2>the fireworks, the pyrotechnics. Tie has been doing back handsprings

1:27:10.160 --> 1:27:15.799
<v Speaker 2>for months preparing. I just yeah, soliverbletickets dot com, slash Texas,

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<v Speaker 2>solidverbaltickets dot com, slash DC, get on there. We're running

1:27:20.320 --> 1:27:23.280
<v Speaker 2>low on tickets. I would recommend them. There's air conditioning,

1:27:23.280 --> 1:27:26.320
<v Speaker 2>the Shiit contenders. I just those are two boxes that

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<v Speaker 2>if those are checked, I'm in.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm there. Bring a friend. Yeah, everybody knows somebody. If

1:27:31.160 --> 1:27:33.720
<v Speaker 1>you listen to this show, you know somebody else who

1:27:33.760 --> 1:27:36.760
<v Speaker 1>likes college football. Bring a friend with you. Even if

1:27:36.760 --> 1:27:39.120
<v Speaker 1>they don't listen to this show, bring them along. We're

1:27:39.120 --> 1:27:41.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna make it fun. We've done enough live shows now

1:27:41.160 --> 1:27:43.280
<v Speaker 1>to know what we're doing our way around a live show.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn it, this is true. It's gonna be a lot

1:27:45.640 --> 1:27:48.280
<v Speaker 1>of fun, even if they're not the biggest college football fans.

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<v Speaker 1>We promise. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I ask you a question though about the PAC twelve,

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<v Speaker 2>Please will this conference acquit itself as a conference, fairly

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<v Speaker 2>or unfairly? As you know, how they look early in September,

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<v Speaker 2>how they look in bowl season, who's at the top,

1:28:03.720 --> 1:28:07.120
<v Speaker 2>and how they are perceived nationally? Will they perceive well?

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<v Speaker 2>Will the PAC twelve look better nationally to you in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty nineteen, say stay better?

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<v Speaker 1>Worse? No, They're going to kill each other off. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you're asking this, if you're asking this within the

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<v Speaker 1>framework of the existing playoff system, I don't think the

1:28:23.479 --> 1:28:25.120
<v Speaker 1>PAC twelve gets in. I think they all kill each

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<v Speaker 1>other off. Who's in the championship game? The PAC twelve

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<v Speaker 1>championship game Utah and the winner of Oregon Washington. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>who wins that game? It's in Seattle. Games in Seattle.

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<v Speaker 1>I will go with Utah. No, No, I mean who

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<v Speaker 1>wins the Organ Washington game? Utah.

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<v Speaker 2>If Utah wins the Organ Washington team, oh my god,

1:28:47.560 --> 1:28:49.759
<v Speaker 2>I'll out say everything about Andy Ludwig.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go Oregon. Okay, Oregon, Utah. Let's you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>let's double up WI. On that note, for everyone out there,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for listening to the show. We

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<v Speaker 1>will catch you all in a few days when we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the Big Ten. For that go over there

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<v Speaker 1>my good friend Dan Rubenstein, for myself, Tie Hildebrand. Enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of your week if you're listening on the weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>your day at work, whatever you're doing, stay solid, Peace,