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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid Verbo. I'll that for me.

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Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm for I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 1: You want to be happy for Dake Edith State? Is

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Speaker 1: that woo woom? And Dan and Tye welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the solid verbal boys and girls. My name is ty Hildebrand,

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Speaker 1: joining me as always over there in beautiful New York City,

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Speaker 1: the one, the only, the host of Sports Wars. Oh wondery.

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Speaker 1: Our good friend Dan Rubinstein, sir, how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm great, Tye, and I have a favor to ask

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Speaker 2: you before we get into the Conference of Champions.

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Speaker 1: You didn't expect that introduction, did you? No?

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Speaker 2: I didn't, and I loved hearing it. It was almost like

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Speaker 2: going on a late night talk show or you know,

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Speaker 2: like they're like they plug the project right off the

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Speaker 2: bat from the new movie Adventureland. My favorite to ask, though,

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Speaker 2: is my wife Jody with and eye is have a

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Speaker 2: bunch of work people over in let's say an hour

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Speaker 2: and a half. WHOA so in like a half hour

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Speaker 2: maybe forty five minutes? Yeah, forty five minutes. I need

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Speaker 2: you to remind me to remind my wife to preheat

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Speaker 2: the oven. And put in the charizo bean dip that

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Speaker 2: I just assembled that needs to go into the oven.

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Speaker 1: It's a two.

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Speaker 2: Factor because I didn't want to set my phone alarm

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Speaker 2: if I think if we work it in organically, and

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Speaker 2: I did it, because that would be a real bummer

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Speaker 1: Shit, whenever this goes up, you should actually set your

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Speaker 1: phone alarm because when you do that, that'll give me

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Speaker 1: enough time to go through our ad read for the evening.

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Speaker 1: Oh great, okay, And I'll see if I can maintain

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Speaker 1: the pace, the feverish pace, no doubt, as we talk

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Speaker 1: about all things packed twelve that we're going to have going.

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Speaker 1: I'll see if I can build on that momentum in

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Speaker 1: time for you to get back from putting the bean

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Speaker 1: dip in the oven. That'd be amazing. Okay. Alarm is set, beautiful, Okay,

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Speaker 1: did set the phone alarm, right, But you're the two factor.

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Speaker 2: So we are talking about the Conference of Champions and that,

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Speaker 2: of course is the PAC twelve, which is not named ironically,

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Speaker 2: or at least was not at the time, and we

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Speaker 2: have broken the conference up into two divisions, and yes

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Speaker 2: it was us who broke it into the North and South,

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Speaker 2: and we're going to ask each other questions about what

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Speaker 2: we were curious about about the other person's specialty that

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Speaker 2: and we're just gonna hash things out. We're gonna sort

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Speaker 2: who's good, who might not be so good, and what

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Speaker 1: Where would you like to start. I want to start

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Speaker 2: I want to ask you the first question, Okay, because

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Speaker 2: I don't think we've ever seen this level of and

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Speaker 1: They're the official favorite. Right.

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Speaker 2: I think that the Media Day. The PAC twelve Media

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Speaker 2: and so I think we should because you're covering the South.

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Speaker 1: OKA twelve? Oh yeah, get a little usc DG. I

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So my question is if Tyler Huntley,

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Speaker 2: the sum of those parts. Do you believe this tie?

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Speaker 2: That's one and two? What or who should ut fans

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Speaker 2: And do you believe in that combination?

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Speaker 1: Well, so the concern for me is on defense because

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Speaker 1: two quarterback pressures last year, including eighteen sacks plus hits.

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Speaker 1: A lot of All Pack twelve talent, which is going

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Speaker 2: I think Utah has reached the point where they just

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Speaker 2: offensively different thing. We can talk about that, but they are.

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Speaker 2: The Utah defense is among the very few things in

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Speaker 1: They'll be fine. To the larger point though, Yeah, for

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Speaker 1: the big question going into the season has always had

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Speaker 1: something to do with Utah's offense. This year, it's not

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Speaker 1: But the biggest questions are definitely on defense. And as

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Speaker 1: lesser degree maybe the defensive backfield. I just think you

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Speaker 1: need to look at the full picture going into the season,

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Speaker 1: where Utah is coming from and where they are now.

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Speaker 1: Last year, this is a team that had to deal

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Speaker 1: the year due to injury, and still they won nine games. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now both those guys are back this year, as well

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Speaker 1: as Britton Covey, Jalen Dixon the top four other pass

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Speaker 2: At Wisconsin and everywhere else he leaves and people just exhale.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to put a positive spin on things, Dan.

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Speaker 2: My concern with Utah is they have everything in place

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Speaker 2: I think it was Stanford. He looked great against USC

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about Washington. We just mentioned they've got some turnover.

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Speaker 2: My big question is how different will they really look

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Speaker 2: the running backs there. The line should be very very good.

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Speaker 2: That is a clear strength. But I'm worried about not

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Speaker 2: I think the best case right now for Washington is

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Speaker 1: It's an eight and four year. It's a Jersey mix

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Speaker 1: Given? I mean, you didn't deep dive Washington, But what

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm curious to see if teams employ a very

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Speaker 1: And you know, to your point here and to my point,

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Speaker 1: The line is incredible for Washington. That takes a lot

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Speaker 1: For sure. So you're feeling pretty bullish on Washington again,

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Speaker 2: be used, if he'll be used in the same way.

430
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Speaker 2: I think he'll be looked at as a red zone target.

431
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Speaker 2: I think primarily because of his size, but he certainly knew.

432
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Speaker 2: I don't know if I feel great about bringing in

433
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Speaker 2: a receiver to a core that had some drop issues,

434
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Speaker 2: with a receiver who for sure had some drop.

435
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Speaker 1: Definitely had some drop issues going to Yes, So.

436
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Speaker 2: That combination of figuring out the creativity of finding seven

437
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,159
Speaker 2: yards and getting to second and three finding eleven yards

438
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 2: because a lot of times justin Herbert locked in on guys.

439
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 2: Dylan Mitchell was the clear best and he's not back,

440
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 2: he's in the NFL now, and he.

441
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 1: Would go he would throw the ball deep.

442
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Speaker 2: He has this giant arm and he would he go deep,

443
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 2: or he would fire it in for something short or

444
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 2: try to squeeze something in intermediate. And I want there

445
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 2: to be some sort of creativity like they showed last

446
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,919
Speaker 2: year later on in the season Arizona State, UCLA, whatever,

447
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 2: where there were some swing passes, there was motion, there

448
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 2: was play action, and the better that they got doing that,

449
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 2: the less they were running it out of the pistol.

450
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Speaker 2: And I said a few weeks ago that I felt

451
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Speaker 2: Oregon had a nine win pistol ceiling. If they're really

452
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Speaker 2: leaning on that pistol, I think I feel that way.

453
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Speaker 2: Maybe it's a little bit harsh. I think if they

454
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Speaker 2: don't get to nine wins, it'll be a combination of

455
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Speaker 2: the pistol in a pretty tricky schedule. But at the

456
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 2: top they're in good shape with Herbert, who has the

457
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Speaker 2: potential to be the best in the conference and elite nationally.

458
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Speaker 2: Running back is by committee. They don't have like the

459
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Speaker 2: Belkow dude like they had in years past receiver. I've

460
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Speaker 2: mentioned the offensive line might be the best in the country.

461
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Speaker 2: If it's not the best in the country, it's in

462
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Speaker 2: that group. There's a ton of experience. You know, Pinay

463
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Speaker 2: Swell might be a top ten twelve pick when he's

464
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Speaker 2: eligible to come out at left tackle.

465
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Speaker 1: Defensively, I think they're going to get better. I think

466
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Speaker 1: they're going to.

467
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Speaker 2: Get more unpredictable. They add what it was, number one,

468
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 2: number two red root in the country in Cavon Thibodeaux,

469
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,719
Speaker 2: who at least will be a rushing a rush end

470
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 2: specialist type linebacker. Their experience, they're okay Troy Dies, you know,

471
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 2: he's been there now seventeen years and he should lead

472
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,239
Speaker 2: the team in tackles once again. And they're improving in

473
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Speaker 2: the secondary schedule though, like I mentioned, open against Auburn,

474
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Speaker 2: they're at Stanford this year. At Washington, they host Washington State,

475
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Speaker 2: They go to USC, who they missed last year, and

476
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Speaker 2: a lot of that is like I think it's Washington,

477
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,880
Speaker 2: Washington Schools and USC are back to back to back

478
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Speaker 2: in October and early November, so it's a rough there's

479
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 2: no stretch of ease for Oregon. So the best case

480
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Speaker 2: scenario is, you know, they go ten and two, Justin

481
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 2: Herberts and Assassin, the receivers improve, the offense takes those

482
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 2: open yards. It gets creative. Worst cases, they go eight

483
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 2: and four again and the offense stagnates. They're not that

484
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 2: great on the road, the defense is inconsistent. So I

485
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 2: have them squarely between those at nine and three.

486
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Speaker 1: It'd be a good year, though. Would you be happy

487
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Speaker 1: with that? I think so.

488
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Speaker 2: I think so, with the potential depending on who they

489
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Speaker 2: lose to. If they lose the Auburn game, so you're

490
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 2: only losing two Pac twelve games, so you can get

491
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 2: into a pretty big Bowl game. I just I'm too

492
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 2: concerned about the offense and what it looks like on

493
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Speaker 2: the road in big spots, and what it looks like

494
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 2: down four with three to eighteen left. I'm not going

495
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 2: to be nearly as confident in this Oregon offense as

496
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 2: I was in years past when it was working. So

497
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 2: that's where I think the losses come from, just offensive

498
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 2: disorder at times.

499
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Speaker 1: I have a more important question, though, Okay, can I

500
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Speaker 1: still make the joke that Oregon's a finesse team because

501
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,360
Speaker 1: you know Mario Chrystobaul has been doing this thing where

502
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,360
Speaker 1: he's trying to be a little bit more physical than

503
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Speaker 1: previous regimes.

504
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 2: It would be you can criticize Oregon for a lot,

505
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 2: and I don't think they were ever a finesse team,

506
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 2: but you can criticize them for a lot or just

507
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 2: be snarky about them for a lot. Finesse running straight

508
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 2: between a center and a guard, or between a guard

509
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 2: and a tackle, between the tackles insisting on running down

510
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,479
Speaker 2: him with a shotgun or a pistol look, and a

511
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 2: running back directly behind the quarterback running straight downhill doesn't

512
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 2: feel finasy to me. Damn, I know, I know, we'll

513
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 2: have to find a new team. So that's where I'm

514
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 2: at with Oregon. I'm the thing I'm most excited and

515
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: curious for is actually what they look like on defense.

516
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: There's nothing.

517
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,479
Speaker 2: There's not much that I feel like they can evolve

518
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,639
Speaker 2: to offensively with the same people and the same coordinator.

519
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 2: But they hire a new coordinator in Andy Avolos from

520
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 2: Poise State, who I think ran a really interesting defense there.

521
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 2: I think you're gonna see a lot of pre snap

522
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 2: confusion and unpredictability and I'm I'm all for that. I

523
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 2: love that kind of thing. So I'm excited to see what.

524
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Speaker 1: They do there. Fair enough for what do you want

525
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Speaker 1: to go next? All right, let's go to.

526
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Speaker 2: I guess we should talk about USC, right, Yeah, we should,

527
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 2: let's talk about USC. I'm actually so a lot of

528
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 2: the attention has been on what are they gonna look

529
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 2: like as an air raid team? What are they going

530
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 2: to look like? You know, as they get a little

531
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 2: bit healthier, they're replacing their secondary on defense. If the

532
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 2: Trojans are going to take and this I think is

533
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 2: a fair question, if they're going to take a dramatic

534
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 2: step in either direction, which group will be the cause?

535
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:15,880
Speaker 1: Yes?

536
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 2: So if they get well, I'm saying even more specifically, okay,

537
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 2: what position group will.

538
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: Be the reason?

539
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 2: So if the most likely dramatic improvement or regression will

540
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 2: be because of what position group, I would say, there's

541
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Speaker 2: my terreso alarm. So you're having you got the alarm

542
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 2: right now? I have the alarm right now, I'm texting

543
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 2: Jody with an eye. Can you preheat the oven to

544
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 2: four hundred degrees please?

545
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: Okay, So if USC takes a step forward, what specific

546
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 1: group is responsible for it, Yeah, I think or back

547
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: or back or back. Yeah, I think I'm gonna say

548
00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 1: the offensive line because it has genuinely been the week

549
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 1: spot for USC the last couple of years, and as

550
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 1: we just got done mentioning with the Oregon Ducks, with

551
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 1: the Washington Huskies, even with Utah to some degree, the

552
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: line can paper over a lot of sins and you

553
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: need to be strong in the trenches. I think with

554
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: USC it also has a direct impact on the running game. Now.

555
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 1: I don't know what the running game is going to

556
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 1: look like this year, being so maybe they are switching

557
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 1: to more of an Air Rady type system, but they've

558
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: got so much talent at running back. Wasn't Stephen Carr

559
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: a five star?

560
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 2: Stephen Carr was a five star the vave Malapi. I've

561
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 2: definitely got that pronounced wrong. He was like an Army

562
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 2: All American because he was I'd remember him because he

563
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 2: was committed to Oregon for a long time.

564
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like we haven't seen any breakouts at

565
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: that running back position, despite the fact that USC seems

566
00:28:55,880 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: to always have five star talent since the Texas Tesla. Right, Yeah,

567
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: that's right. So I'm going to start with the line,

568
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: and I'm going to work backwards. I do want to

569
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: address the question though, that you mentioned about the air

570
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: raid and the offense. I just I look at this team.

571
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a whole lot of mystery here.

572
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: The offense needs to get better. Anyone who follows USC

573
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 1: knows that the offense needs to get better. Clay Helton,

574
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: he knew it too. M h. He's not a dummy.

575
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: That's why he fired T Martin. He brought in Cliff Kingsbury. Cliffee,

576
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: of course, was there for what that month month in

577
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: Manhattan Beach, had a lot of fun. Then he went

578
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: to the Arizona Cardinals. Now they bring in Graham Harrell

579
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: from North Texas, which I think is an equally aggressive move.

580
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: That definitely it definitely, let's put this way, signals some

581
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: sort of new philosophy on offense.

582
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Cliff Kingsbury was wildly successful as an offensive

583
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 2: mind than Graham Harrell. Okay, interesting, intriguing, but.

584
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: I think Cliff was way more proven. I think that

585
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: was more aggressed. Definitely more proven for sure. Okay, The

586
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: question now is what's the realist expectation going from T

587
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: Martin to Graham Harrell. Again more of an air raid guy.

588
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean he's not going to find some hybrid version

589
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: that works for USC, but there's certainly going to be

590
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: a transition here, and the question everyone's asking is will

591
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: it click fast enough to meet the expectations to save

592
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: Clay Helton's job. For me, I really like JT. Daniels

593
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: at quarterback. He looked really good look the real deal

594
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: last year, and I think he's got a solid wide

595
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: receiver corps that should be primed for a big year.

596
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: Did you think he looked really good last year?

597
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 2: I thought he did. I thought he showed enough promise.

598
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 2: Do you know why you thought that? I'm going to

599
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 2: tell you why you thought that?

600
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: Has he looked he looked good.

601
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: Against Notre Dame, and that's probably when you watched him

602
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 2: most closely.

603
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: I still think he's got a ton of talent, and

604
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: I feel I feel good about JT. Daniels, and I

605
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: think the receiving corps has a ton of talent with

606
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,239
Speaker 1: Michael Pittman Junior and Tyler Vaughns. He's still there and

607
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: they've got They've got talent up and down the depth

608
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: chart at wide receipt. Still no word if they're going

609
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: to let Bruce McCoy play right, which in case will.

610
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: Be other transfer back is eligible at corner, but I

611
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 2: haven't heard about brew yet.

612
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: So we'll find out. The point is here, they've got

613
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: talent at wide receiver. If they're going to run more

614
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: air raid stuff, presumably that would be a position that

615
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: that would have a big year. It's just I don't

616
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: know what it's going to look like, and that bothers me.

617
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: I like the talent, but we've liked talent at USC

618
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: for a long time. The line has certainly underwhelmed. That's

619
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: why I mentioned them first. And the running back core.

620
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: I don't know what to expect there right. Defensively, defensively,

621
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Speaker 1: that front has to have an outsized impact here because

622
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Speaker 1: I'm comparing the secondary to Gumby Dan because they're thin

623
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Speaker 1: and green. Oh okay, I think a lot comes down

624
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: to this offense. Is that fair? They've recruited really well

625
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: in the secondary, though, they have, but they're thin and

626
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: they're they've been shaky though. Yeah, you're right, they're young.

627
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 2: Yes, I think the offensive line will decide things in

628
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 2: an interesting way, although part of me also thinks they're

629
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 2: going to design this offense around getting the ball out

630
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 2: of whoever the starting quarterback's hand is pretty quickly, and

631
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,239
Speaker 2: so to mitigate any of the worries there, because they

632
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 2: get rid of the offensive line coach last year who

633
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 2: was there for a little while, and so I think

634
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,239
Speaker 2: Tim Drevno is sliding from running backs coach to he's

635
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 2: an old Harbaugh guy too, back to the offensive line,

636
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 2: which is where he was before. So it appears that

637
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 2: they're going to have a better coaching and more solidified

638
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 2: situation there on the line. The Mike jinks Hire is

639
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 2: interesting to me.

640
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: They hire him.

641
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 2: He was a head coach, but he was at Texas

642
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 2: Tech under Cliff Kingsbury as a running backs coach and

643
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 2: did a really nice job with the running backs for

644
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: the Red Raiders. So it's interesting to me to see

645
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,719
Speaker 2: who shines from that running backs group from an all

646
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 2: purpose standpoint. But even if the line isn't great, if

647
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 2: they're getting the ball out of the hit, they're getting

648
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 2: it to whoever you mentioned, Michael Pittman and Tyler Vaughn's

649
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: and Devin Williams and all these guys that are really

650
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 2: really talented and they're just getting to them immediately. It

651
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 2: feels like they're gonna be in a much better place.

652
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 2: They were awful on third down last year. Yeah, so

653
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 2: if they just if they can pump out six seven

654
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 2: yards on first down more often than not. There they

655
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: had like the eightieth or ninetieth best offense in the

656
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 2: country last year. It was We're going to be immediately

657
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 2: a top twenty or thirty offense just from doing that.

658
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: Can I tell you the biggest fly in this college

659
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: football ointment, oh place. This schedule is unrelenting. Whoa, it's

660
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: such a big start. It is unrelenting. They've got Stanford,

661
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: Utah and a road game against Washington all in September. Yeah,

662
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: then there's a bye week before they go to Notre Dame.

663
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: They've also got Oregon in the first week of November

664
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: and a road game at ASU that has not historically

665
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: been great to USC. The very next tarmac firing filled. Yeah,

666
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: not the problem Clay Helton, who everybody loves but no

667
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: one would recognize in Hudson News. As we've elaborated on

668
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: the show, I love that stupidity of the statement. Yeah,

669
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: nine and three may be the absolute ceiling for USC

670
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: given the schedule, and that could be a problem for

671
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 1: him if.

672
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: They go nine and three and win the Alamobile and

673
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 2: get to ten and they beat I don't know who

674
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 2: they would play in the Alamobile, but if they beat

675
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 2: somebody in the top twenty ten wins with the top

676
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 2: twenty Bowl win, is that enough?

677
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 1: Just show improvement, okay, show improvement from start to finish.

678
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: That might be enough. If you win eight wins.

679
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 2: I don't think that's enough. I think, yes, an admirable

680
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 2: eight wins where you just barely lose to Washington, it

681
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 2: just barely and you look competitive. I don't think that's enough.

682
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 2: I think that number is it's a red number. That's

683
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 2: the scarlet number for USC. I think they're cardinal and gold.

684
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 2: But it's close enough. Eight wins is not enough. A

685
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 2: wins is just not enough. I think it's it's gonna

686
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 2: take nine with wins over big teams, and maybe they're

687
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 2: there's a context for why they lose a couple of games.

688
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: Quarterback.

689
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 2: It's hurt they you know, some some explanation. I think

690
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 2: in all likelihood it has to be double digit wins

691
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 2: for for Clay Hell to keep his job, and double

692
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 2: digit wins winning the conference probably doesn't. Don't They also

693
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 2: have Fresno to open the year. Yeah, Fresno's a good team. Yeah,

694
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: Fresno's been putting out top ten defenses. So Fresno Stanford,

695
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 2: they're going. They're on the road at BYU, who's got

696
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 2: a promising young quarterback. I think USC wins that game.

697
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 2: But in terms of there's there's no letting off the pedal.

698
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 2: Fresno Stanford BYU, Utah, Washington, Notre Dame, UNREMT that's going.

699
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 2: That's going into an Arizona game where there might be

700
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 2: the single most dangerous quarterback in the conference. You might

701
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 2: talk Do you want to talk about Arizona next?

702
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: I'll talk about Arizona next, Yes, please do. What's your

703
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: question about Arizona? I do have that question about Arizona.

704
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 2: That is the least interesting question there is because it's

705
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 2: what everybody kind of wants to know. Am I going

706
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 2: to get to watch fun Khalil Tate in twenty nineteen?

707
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 2: I know last year that the nol Mazzoni offense where

708
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 2: he was, you know, getting used to being more of

709
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 2: a pocket guy and not really in that rich Rod

710
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 2: Mold of all sorts of his own reads and just

711
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: doing it all himself. Can he do it all himself?

712
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 2: Again please, because the defense is not going to be

713
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 2: super good and so it's not they will find themselves

714
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 2: in a well, they're down forty to twenty eight with

715
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 2: eleven minutes left.

716
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: Sure, it's Tate time. Tate time. Nice, that's it I'm begging. Okay,

717
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: So you mentioned the defense. They gave up thirty two

718
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: points six points per game last year. Yeah, they did.

719
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 1: That was almost as bad as Oklahoma for content.

720
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 2: The Tate Show with I was doing like a late

721
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 2: show thing and then it just didn't all add up.

722
00:36:54,440 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: Sorry. The issue is defense, for sure. Okay, let's get

723
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: back to the elephant in the room here. Yeah. I

724
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: want to believe they get better on defense. The linebacking

725
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: corps should be okay, Okay, Well, I am kicking myself

726
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: personally that I did not include Colin's Schooler on my

727
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: dude watch list.

728
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 2: Oh man, Actually, can I jump in right here please.

729
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 2: The reason I said that my answer about Organ's receivers

730
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 2: has changed in the last couple of days is because

731
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 2: starting receiver Brendan Schooler, yes, broke his foot and he's

732
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 2: out six to eight weeks. His younger brother, who you're

733
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 2: about to talk about. It's a very, very good linebacker

734
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 2: for Arizona.

735
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: Really good linebacker. And again, this isn't a program recently

736
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: that has been that notable on the defensive side. Of course,

737
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 1: he had Scooby Wright a couple of years ago, but

738
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: otherwise not a lot to love on the defensive side.

739
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: Colin Schooler is one of those names you should watch

740
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: out for. And the secondary is three starters back and

741
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: they should be okay. So I don't know if I'll

742
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: believe in any defensive improvement until I see it, but

743
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: they can't get a whole lot worse than they did

744
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: a year ago. Good news, bad news situation for the

745
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: Wildcats is this. I think there is a ton of

746
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: reason for optimism, not just seeing Khalil Tate in the backfield,

747
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 1: but also JJ Taylor. That's exciting. Preview after preview, rider

748
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: after writer, everybody who's writing a preview about Arizona this

749
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: year is focusing on those two guys and how much

750
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: fun they're going to be. I'm with them. I'm excited.

751
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: The problem the bad news is that eventually it hits

752
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 1: you like, oh God, this is all on Khalil JJ Taylor,

753
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 1: isn't it. It's fine by me, It's fine by me

754
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: as a fan, if you're an Arizona fan, yeah, it's

755
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: not sustainable. But as a college football fan, yeah, you're

756
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: going to find some games where they're down forty to

757
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: eighteen late and we're going to see some creative stuff.

758
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: Last year, the main reason I believe we saw a

759
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: different Khalil Tait was because he heard his ankle in

760
00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: the second week of the year and he didn't run

761
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: as much. Yeah, and it's new coach, new system. This

762
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: a coach new system. But Kevin someone was very clear,

763
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: very clear in saying that, Yeah, Cleil Tait's really good

764
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 1: when he can run the ball, and he just didn't

765
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: run the ball last year. He was hurt. So hopefully

766
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 1: he's healthy this year and we could see more of that.

767
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: And let's talk about JJ Taylor. We talked about him,

768
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: I think on our Dude Show. If we didn't, maybe

769
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: we should have, but implied established dude, but a revelation

770
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: in his sophomore year had over fourteen hundred yards. Dudes,

771
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: only five six, not big by any stretch, but a

772
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: ton of fun to watch out there. The absolute wishing

773
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: on a star best case scenario for Arizona is like

774
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: seven and five. Yeah, I think that's right. Seven and five.

775
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: I can't go more than seven and five. Texas Tech

776
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: in week three should tell us a lot. Listen to

777
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: the road schedule. Did you see this? I don't have

778
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 1: it in front of me, but I'm winning at USC,

779
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: at Stanford, at Oregon, at Arizona State. And that's in

780
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: addition and territorial by the way, to home games against

781
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: Washington and Utah. So not easy for Arizona. What do

782
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 1: they miss from the north? Do they miss Wazoo? They

783
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: miss Wazoo. Oh, that's pretty good, but otherwise it's a

784
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: murderer's row. Doesn't relent at all. And seven and five

785
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 1: is probably your best case scenario.

786
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 2: So that means the defense in a best case scenario

787
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 2: goes from being below average because they did improve last year.

788
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 2: They go from being not great to all right. You know,

789
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 2: take the good, you take the bad. That kind of

790
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 2: thing for Arizona and Khalil Tate returning to form as

791
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 2: essentially a borderline Heisman candidate. Yes, okay, I'm curious about

792
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 2: the receivers. If they have those, go to guys that

793
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 2: will pair well and keep defenses honest or teams are

794
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 2: just going to keep spying on Tate and you know,

795
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 2: make his life miserable as often as possible.

796
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, where do we want to go from here?

797
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: I want to talk about Wazoo since you brought them up. Yes,

798
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: great story. Last year, both sides of the football, right,

799
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew has a breakout campaign. Tracy Clays his first year,

800
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: Remember they brought him in to try and help the defense.

801
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: That went very well, good defensive mind. This year, now

802
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: they're in a different place, a familiar place, but a

803
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: different place, bringing in another transfer quarterback because of the system. Now,

804
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: is it fair to say that the Wazoo offense is

805
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: completely relying upon the success of their newest transfer quarterback.

806
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, They're only going to go as far as their

807
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 2: quarterback takes them. I think it's more than that. But

808
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 2: because of the way Washington State's offense runs through the quarterback,

809
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 2: as the quarterback is responsible for both the passing game

810
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 2: and in some ways the running game, with short little

811
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 2: passes to running backs out of the backfield and screens

812
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 2: to the receivers. Yes, the good news for Gaje Gubrud

813
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 2: allegedly gauge, but come on, it's gotsche The good News

814
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 2: room is. He had a bunch of coordinators at Eastern.

815
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 2: He had Bo Baldwin running things on offense and Troy

816
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 2: Taylor who ended up at Utah. He's year over year.

817
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 2: Has had to get used to being thrown into a

818
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 2: new situation. Now going to Washington State and playing against

819
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 2: PAC twelve competition every week, it's different animal. It's for sure,

820
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 2: different animal. We saw Vernon Adams do it from going

821
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 2: from Eastern Washington to a PAC twelve North team and

822
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 2: looking sensational, and it could happen again for Washington State

823
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,840
Speaker 2: here quarterbacks are different and relying on this sort of

824
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 2: year over year thing. It's real tricky again. I saw

825
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 2: it with Dakota Prucop coming in a year after Vernon Adams.

826
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 2: Different quarterback for sure. It's just tough to the lightning

827
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 2: in a bottle of Gardner Minshew happening again. I think

828
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:49,760
Speaker 2: the odds are not great, but they've been built well enough.

829
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 2: Washington State. They are right now in a probably better

830
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 2: place than Oregon. They've beaten the Ducks four straight years,

831
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 2: and a couple of those times pretty emphatic. They go,

832
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 2: they win ten games. Last year, they lose the Wonky

833
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,720
Speaker 2: Game to USC with the referee issues and the late hits,

834
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:12,439
Speaker 2: and then obviously they're nailed down by the Husky Hammer. Hey,

835
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: that's pretty good. That's your nickname in high school. So

836
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: the offense is very very good. So yes, it's going

837
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,240
Speaker 2: to depend on guy Ja Gubrud. They had trouble running

838
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 2: last year, which would have taken off some of the

839
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 2: heat from Gardner Minshew in a couple of those games.

840
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 2: They didn't go downfield as much as they have and

841
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 2: so I wonder what that looks like with a really

842
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 2: nice receiving core back tay Martin des Patman. Jamiir Calvin

843
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 2: inside is really good. I think he had a huge

844
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 2: conversion on third down against Oregon last year. The line

845
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 2: should be pretty good even without Andre Dillard, who now

846
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: is sort of your neighbor, right, He's an eagle, sort of,

847
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 2: isn't he? Yeah, sort of your neighbor sort of. A

848
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: couple hours the defensive lines rebuilding, but they bring in

849
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 2: a nice transfer. I think his name is McDougall from

850
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 2: West Virginia. They've got rotations, back, rotation guys back at linebacker.

851
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 2: I think secondary is gonna be a little bit tough.

852
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,960
Speaker 2: They lost Jalen Thompson, who was even potential All American

853
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 2: but certainly All Conference. He had an nc DOUAI violation.

854
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 2: I think declared for the supplemental draft.

855
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 1: Schedule's nice. Schedule's nice.

856
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 2: I know they have Houston early on and they're at

857
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 2: Oregon Washington, but it's all pretty cushioned. They have Colorado

858
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 2: before Oregon, they have I think it's Oregon State at

859
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 2: home before Washington. So yes, it depends on him. He

860
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 2: was a good quarterback, had a foot injury last year

861
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 2: that I think he's still trying to shake a little bit,

862
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 2: but I think he's ultimately going to be fine. So

863
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 2: the best case scenario is Gajay is minshew esque, the

864
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 2: defense stays fast and dangerous, they keep winning the close ones.

865
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 2: They had some fifty to fifty games last year. I

866
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 2: think Cal was real close. And the worst case scenario

867
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 2: is it's just too much to ask for two grad

868
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 2: transfer quarterbacks in a row to generate that lightning in

869
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 2: a bottle, and the defense leaks a bit a little

870
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,439
Speaker 2: bit in the secondary, and it's a tough quarterback road

871
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 2: for Washington State. They have Derek King Houston, they have

872
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 2: I think what's going to be We're going to get

873
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 2: to him probably next dt R, Dorian Thompson Robinson, the UCLA.

874
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 2: They've Tyler Huntley, Stephen Montes, Justin, Herbert kJ Costello, and

875
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 2: potentially a very good Jacob Easton or whoever starting at Washington.

876
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 2: So that's the worst case, and they would in that

877
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 2: case go seven to five and six or six and

878
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 2: six something like that. This all seems right to me, Dan,

879
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 2: Are they in a better place to you than Oregon

880
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 2: with how they've been these past few years where you

881
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 2: are feeling more confident that they will figure things out.

882
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 2: I'm feeling more confident because they have despite maybe the

883
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 2: stigma that Mike Leech had about coaching defense, they've actually

884
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 2: been pretty good on defense last couple of years, and

885
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,760
Speaker 2: that to me has been a steadying force.

886
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,280
Speaker 1: Right. So I guess with that in mind, I would

887
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: I'd be inclined to answer, Yes, I think it's close, though,

888
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:51,280
Speaker 1: I mean it's close.

889
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 2: Who is more able to say we have got a

890
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 2: great blank and it's I think it's Washington State in

891
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 2: their offense.

892
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right there. There's been a level

893
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: of consistency at Wazoo that's been admirable. Danger got a

894
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 1: credit Mike Leach for that. He's done a good job

895
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: for sure. But we'll see you at the new quarterback.

896
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 1: What's your ceiling for Wazuo this season?

897
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 2: Ceiling if if Gaja goobrued works out and the defense

898
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 2: you know, is able to replace guys and work rotation

899
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 2: guys in nicely. I think Washington State has like a

900
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 2: man nine and three again with a chance to win

901
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 2: ten in a bowl.

902
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: Let's do Ucla. What do you got for me on Ucla? Man?

903
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 2: This is gonna be very similar to my kalil take question.

904
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 2: Am I going to get to watch Chip Kelly football

905
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 2: Capital F football in twenty nineteen in a way that

906
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 2: will make me? This is a complicated, baggage filled It'll

907
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 2: make me happy, it'll make me sad, It'll make me

908
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 2: a little scared watching UCLA? Or is that is that

909
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 2: a twenty twenty combo of emotion?

910
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 1: Is this? Is this you being invited to an ex's wedding?

911
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 2: Not anymore? He's already been back to Eugene at this point.

912
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: I just it would be fun to see a good UCLA.

913
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: So you've you're you're burying the past.

914
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we had our great times. It was passionate,

915
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 2: memorable and I'll remember it forever. I just now I

916
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:21,399
Speaker 2: want to see somebody live well.

917
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 1: As a Southern California kid, Yeah, growing up watching sports,

918
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: were you more inclined towards USC or Ucla? Oh? Ucla

919
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: for sure, really for sure. Yeah.

920
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 2: I really liked the basketball team. So they won the

921
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 2: national championship and what ninety.

922
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,280
Speaker 1: Four early the tias Edney team.

923
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 2: Tias Edney over Miszoo and yeah, yeah, I was about

924
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:50,959
Speaker 2: to say Kyler Murray, but that is not correct. Different player. Yeah,

925
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 2: that team was incredible and so that really got me

926
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 2: going with UCLA, as did like the cade McNown era.

927
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 1: In oh yeah, middle late nineties.

928
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 2: So I was into that and so I've talked about

929
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 2: this that that cade McNown Ucla lost to Miami at

930
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 2: the end of the season. That was postponed from the

931
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 2: beginning of the season when UCLA was about to, I

932
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,479
Speaker 2: think go to the national championship if they win that game.

933
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 2: That was Edger and James ran for five thousand yards

934
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 2: on a Nick Aliotti defense for UCLA.

935
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Ucla went three and nine last year.

936
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: It was not a good season in Westwood, but they

937
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 1: were super young and They're still young this year, they

938
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:36,919
Speaker 1: will be better, will be better this season. I am

939
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: super interested in your boy Dtrnson Robinson, their quarterback, as

940
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: well as Joshua Kelly and how our boy Charles chip

941
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 1: Kelly is going to use both of them. As you know,

942
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 1: Chippers got a knack for the whole running thing, and

943
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: Joshua Kelly really came into his own towards the end

944
00:48:56,200 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 1: of last season. Elsewhere, the wide receiver corp is mostly back.

945
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: They got four guys on the line that are back.

946
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: The defense was super young again last season, mostly mostly

947
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: back this year. So I don't know if I have

948
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: any deep level of analysis on the UCLA Bruins, just

949
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 1: that they were so young last year learning a new system.

950
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: Most of the team is back. I think it has

951
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: to improve. Now to what end will it improve? That's

952
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: hard to say, Dan, because when you look at the schedule,

953
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 1: it truly qualifies as manslaughter in like one hundred and

954
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: fifty countries. This schedule is brutal. Opening the year at Cincinnati.

955
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: Not a bad team, right, They'll be better this year,

956
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 1: for sure, not a bad team. Then they come back

957
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: home against San Diego State, which is no pushover the

958
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: next week they host Oklahoma, difficult game potentially zero to three, potentially,

959
00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: and then the Pac twelve road schedule is nuts at Wazoo,

960
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: at Zona, at Stanford, at Utah, at USC. Are you

961
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: freaking kidding me with this? That's a rough. That's a rough.

962
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: They could improve by leaps and bounds, and the best

963
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,919
Speaker 1: case scenario still might only be six and six. That's

964
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: how tough this schedule is. That's one hundred percent more wins.

965
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: One hundred percent more wins? Yes? Is my math? Does

966
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: my mat check out? Three? Nine to six and six? Yes,

967
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: one hundred percent more wins. You're right?

968
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 2: They miss Oregon though, right, they miss organ Yeah, they

969
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 2: miss Oregon and Washington. Is that how I'm reading this correctly?

970
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,919
Speaker 2: So that's at least some relief. There's at least something

971
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 2: there that it could be worse. The back half of

972
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 2: their schedule is pretty rocky. The middle of their schedules

973
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 2: all right, beginning as you mentioned, is you know that

974
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 2: through the Arizona game late in September, that's tough.

975
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 1: I am.

976
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 2: I'm very excited for DTR. I'm they have speed at receiver.

977
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 2: I think whatever they lack in talent, they are gonna

978
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 2: be one of the few teams in the country that

979
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 2: they can say we can outscheme people, we can add

980
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 2: wrinkles that make our offense hum more smoothly than it

981
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 2: should all things considered defensively. Have a lot of questions defensively.

982
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 2: What they look like on the road. Yeah, so last

983
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 2: year on the road, UCLA gives up forty nine, thirty eight,

984
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 2: thirty or they give up seven in a win.

985
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: To cal which is great.

986
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 2: They give up forty two to Oregon, thirty one to Asu,

987
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 2: and then they finish the season, and I would consider

988
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 2: this a bright spot. God Wilton spate through for almost

989
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 2: five hundred yards against Stanford in a shootout loss to

990
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 2: the Cardinal in Pasadena, so they're in a decent enough place.

991
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 2: Dtr will be healthy. What he looked like against Washington,

992
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,760
Speaker 2: especially as they almost upset them in the Rose Bowl.

993
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna get a lot more of a

994
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 2: full off season. The Chip Kelly program, I think, is

995
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 2: gonna pay a good amount of dividends. They're gonna be fun.

996
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 2: They're gonna be a fifty to fifty team. They're gonna

997
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 2: plan a lot of like thirty eight thirty five types.

998
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that's a great argument against your

999
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: theory that this could be the last year for Charles

1000
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly. There's so many I don't think we'll have

1001
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 1: to do with what they look like on the field though,

1002
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: so well, that's potentially true, so much youth. I think

1003
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 1: Dorian Thompson, Robinson and Joshua Kelly should be awesome in

1004
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: the backfield. Very curious to see if we get that

1005
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 1: retro Chip style of offense. That would be fun. Like

1006
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: I do.

1007
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:29,959
Speaker 2: I'm worried about them up front, but I like their

1008
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 2: their linebackers on defense. I like, God, he feels like

1009
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 2: he's been here forever. It's Kaishaan Lucier South. Yeah, he was,

1010
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 2: He's been there for a good amount of time. And

1011
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 2: Chris Barnes was really nice as well.

1012
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: Last year. He was all over the place.

1013
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 2: So if he can be if they can look like

1014
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 2: what they did at linebacker like four years ago, the

1015
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 2: Anthony Barr era, Yeah yeah, that's it's a high bar.

1016
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 2: But at least when you have those guys cleaning things up,

1017
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 2: you can get off the field, and that's that's enormous.

1018
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: Hey, Dan, when you were in school, what was like

1019
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: the cool thing you have, like a trendy thing when

1020
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: you were in school in high school. Growing up, you

1021
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 1: went to like angel Dust saying no slap bracelets. In

1022
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: high school was that? That was probably? I am That

1023
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 1: was probably elementary school for both of us. Right, High

1024
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: school was POGs Now ska ska. People listen to SKA.

1025
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,760
Speaker 1: You're talking about like collectibles, Yeah, like a Rubik's cube

1026
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: or like Pokey. We were before Pokemon, quicksilver shirts, quick.

1027
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 2: Airwalks, Yeah, a lot of you know what it was

1028
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 2: that skater shoes like DVS airwalks, vans.

1029
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,719
Speaker 1: That was very big, the coolest thing in school. Now

1030
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:45,759
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1031
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:49,520
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1032
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,759
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1033
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:56,880
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1034
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: literally bursting with color. Dan you know this. Yeah, they

1035
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:03,640
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1036
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1037
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1038
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1039
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,920
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1040
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:16,279
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1041
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:18,880
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1042
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,160
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1043
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,760
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1044
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1045
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,200
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1046
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:31,879
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1047
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1051
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1052
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,640
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1053
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:57,120
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1054
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,800
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1055
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1056
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,319
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1057
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:11,560
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1058
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,600
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1059
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,640
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1060
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:23,799
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1061
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,200
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1062
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,280
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1063
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1064
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1065
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1066
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Speaker 2: now I gotta go buy more. Because these things couldn't

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Speaker 2: I do not guarantee that.

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Speaker 1: Hey, while we're at it, while we're doing advertisements. I

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Speaker 1: mentioned it at the top of the show, but I

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Speaker 1: did want to call out something that you're doing. You're

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Speaker 1: doing another podcast, which I'll never let you live down.

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Speaker 1: But it's okay. I do it alone. I don't have

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Speaker 1: another co host. You do it alone. You're not technically

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Speaker 1: cheating on me, so it's cool. Yeah, but sports Wars

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Speaker 1: has dipped into a college football arc, has it not? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we are.

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Speaker 2: As we were recording this in the middle of the

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Speaker 2: history of the show, the big names, the big stories

1086
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Speaker 2: and like why they hate each other and the baggage

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Speaker 2: that everybody has. If you're a Florida fan looking back

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Speaker 2: at the herschel Walker Georgia teams or what they've done

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Speaker 2: these past couple of years are if you're a Georgia

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Speaker 2: especially wrecking them in Athens, which I had totally forgotten

1092
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Speaker 2: about when they were remodeling in Jacksonville. So we go

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Speaker 2: through all the old stories and bring it up to

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Speaker 2: current day. We're doing the cocktail party, and then we're

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Speaker 2: doing Red River, Oklahoma, Texas Texas Oklahoma and going through

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Speaker 2: the history there. We figured we'd start with the two

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Speaker 2: big weird neutral site rivalry games. Would love to do

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Speaker 2: Army Navy, so that's also a neutral site rivalry game.

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Speaker 2: But these these really sang to me and they're really fun.

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Speaker 2: So I recommend Sports Wars wherever you're listening to this

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Speaker 2: right now, go download Sports Wars. Really good for like

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Speaker 2: a flight or just a car ride to zone out

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Speaker 2: to weird sports stories.

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Speaker 1: With I enjoyed. I only had a chance to listen

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Speaker 1: to the very first for the Georgia episode, Thank you Well.

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Speaker 2: The new for the second one came out literally today

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Speaker 2: as we were Yeah, so I had never for a

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Speaker 2: chance to listen to it yet. But it's cued up,

1109
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 2: but it's ready to go. Good stuff, man, keep up

1110
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 2: the good work. They wouldn't let me do my spury

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Speaker 2: or impression I wanted to do it.

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Speaker 1: Weal, weal, Sorry, ty Dan, I want to talk about Stanford.

1113
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: I am concerned about Stanford. I am concerned because there

1114
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: are lingering questions at running back, at offensive line, on defense.

1115
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: All three of those positions were underwhelming last year. What

1116
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: the heck is going on with Stanford's identity is David Shaw?

1117
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: Is he going to rediscover that physicality, that brand of

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00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: football that really brought Stanford to prominence here of late

1119
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: or are we watching a program that is somehow evolving

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Speaker 1: into something else?

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00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 2: Are you asking if David Shaw went on like an

1122
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 2: Eat Prey, Love, find himself vacation to figure out who

1123
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 2: he really wants to be.

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Speaker 1: Look, you can call it whatever you want, But what

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00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: are we in the midst of here? Is he trying

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00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 1: to get back to basics or is he trying to

1127
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: do something different with this team.

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00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 2: I think he's going to try to do something a

1129
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 2: little bit differently with the same Stanford DNA, as much

1130
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 2: as that sort of conflicts as a sentence, I think

1131
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 2: they're going to still play relatively in a relatively conservative fashion.

1132
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 2: But when they saw that the run was not there

1133
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 2: last year, they leaned heavily on with a Cadence Smith

1134
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 2: and Kolby Parkinson and.

1135
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: Jj are.

1136
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 2: Fago Whiteside and Trent Or when they really started to

1137
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 2: air it out and throw the ball down field, and

1138
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 2: when they had success it was because of that, and

1139
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 2: Bryce Love was beat up and certainly didn't have the

1140
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 2: return season that he thought he would. So I don't

1141
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 2: think they are going to be putting in ten offensive

1142
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 2: linemen at the same time like they were wont to

1143
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 2: do in year's past. But I think they're still going

1144
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 2: to try to be that team that uses power to

1145
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 2: set up downfield stuff to set up play action. I

1146
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 2: just don't think they're going to get the same amount

1147
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:30,439
Speaker 2: of success doing so, and they will adjust accordingly. They'll

1148
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 2: throw on first down a little bit more. They're going

1149
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 2: to air it out a little bit more. I know

1150
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 2: they don't have necessarily the game changing receivers, but the

1151
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 2: Kolbe Parkinson's still there, and he's a very good tight end.

1152
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 2: Cameron Scarlett's guy at running back. I'm curious to see

1153
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 2: what they look like because kJ Costello is very quietly

1154
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 2: maybe the most talented quarterback in the conference.

1155
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Speaker 1: Well, next my question was going to be about kJ

1156
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Speaker 1: Costello because it does seem as if now they're trying

1157
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: to run the offense through him. For a while, it

1158
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: was Christian McCaffrey and then Bryce Love sure, and you

1159
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 1: know they got serviceable play out of guys like Kevin Hogan.

1160
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Speaker 1: But not since Andrew Luck have we really had a

1161
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Speaker 1: quarterback around whom it felt, Oh, David Shaw was truly building.

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Speaker 1: I think we've got that now with kJ Costello, don't.

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Speaker 2: We First of all, First of all, in this house,

1164
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 2: we celebrate Kevin Hogan. Kevin Hogan was really good. I'm

1165
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 2: not diminishing Kevin Hogan. Did he in the NFL for

1166
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 2: a little bit?

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Speaker 1: I have no idea. I don't care, I don't That's

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Speaker 1: not what I do on Sunday. Well, I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: he was pretty good.

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Speaker 2: He was zone right at least he was a long

1171
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 2: time starter who won big games and big got them

1172
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 2: to big ball games. I mean, they weren't going to

1173
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 2: Rose Bull. After Rosebull. They were in a great place

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01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 2: with Kevin Hogan. Kevin Hogan was fine. They weren't building

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01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,800
Speaker 2: around him like he was Andrew Luck. Yes, in terms

1176
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 2: of talent, throwing the ball downfield, and size and athleticism,

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01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 2: kJ Costello is you know, every pretty much every team

1178
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 2: in the country should be jealous outside of about five

1179
01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:59,919
Speaker 2: or six that Stanford has, kJ Costell. The big question

1180
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 2: to me is what can the defense do in doing

1181
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 2: their part because last year we saw a backslide that

1182
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 2: was unexpected given where Stanford was defensively even three, four

1183
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 2: or five years ago, putting out top ten fifteen defenses nationally.

1184
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,919
Speaker 2: So at end, they're pretty strong on the line, they're

1185
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 2: pretty good at outside linebacker. It's up the middle, which

1186
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 2: seems to be an issue everywhere in the Pac twelve North.

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01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 2: It seems up the middle, you know, playing tackle, playing inside,

1188
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 2: on the linebacking core. They're pretty thin there. They have

1189
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 2: maybe I don't know if he's the best corner in

1190
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 2: the conference. But Paul Sinadibo is he's a ball howking

1191
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 2: star tie.

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01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 2: Everywhere else though in that secondary is sort of wait

1194
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 2: and see. But I think having they have pieces to

1195
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 2: potentially have not a special but a pretty good defense,

1196
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 2: which would be an improvement. So I'm not with Stanford

1197
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 2: where I am with Utah and Tyler Huntley in their defense,

1198
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 2: but I think potentially they could be close. I like

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Speaker 2: Lance Anderson as a defensive coordinator. So I'm buying Stanford

1200
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 2: stock like I tend to do this time of year. Sure,

1201
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 2: always always buying Stanford. But we talk about how USC

1202
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 2: opens the year and a couple of other openers. Stanford's

1203
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 2: got themselves September.

1204
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 1: Well, if you're talking about defense, dan yeah being a

1205
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 1: question mark. Look at the schedule. You don't like what

1206
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: you see through the first six weeks of the year.

1207
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 1: They open up at home against Northwestern, which wasn't.

1208
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 2: That the body Clock game a couple of years ago.

1209
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 2: It's weird, weird, long longer ago than that. But yeah,

1210
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 2: it's what Hunter Johnson's team now. Hunter Johnson's team.

1211
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 1: Now. We're going to preview the Big Ten next that'll

1212
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 1: be on Wednesday, so stay tuned for that. But then

1213
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 1: at USC in week two, at UCF in week three,

1214
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 1: which is intriguing. It's Wimbush time. Oregon back home the

1215
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: following week. Should have lost last year but pulled it out.

1216
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 1: There's an Oregon State road game in there before they

1217
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 1: come back home against Washington. That's all before the bye

1218
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 1: week on oct Over the twelfth. So defense is going

1219
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 1: to be a real question mark through the first half

1220
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 1: of that schedule at least.

1221
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:11,439
Speaker 2: So the good news is, I mean, talk about Utah

1222
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 2: missing Stanford, then it's probably good that Stanford misses Utah

1223
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 2: of their drive towards getting back near the double digit

1224
01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 2: win and mark of their schedule of their program. So

1225
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 2: the back half of their schedule is at least manageable

1226
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 2: in that there's not two brutal weeks in a row.

1227
01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 2: It's Washington, Ucla, Arizona, Colorado. They have Wazoo before Cal,

1228
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 2: which I think is striking in their differences, and it's

1229
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 2: on the road in Pullman, and they have Cal the

1230
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 2: week before Notre Dame, right, so they have the wonky

1231
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 2: rivalry game with Cal before the end of their season.

1232
01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 2: So it's a tough schedule for sure, but having a

1233
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 2: quarterback who can I think you're feeling confident at least,

1234
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 2: you know, down three with a minute forty seven left,

1235
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 2: you're like, all right, we're not out of it. Where

1236
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 2: some teams you're down closely you're like, well it was nice.

1237
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 2: So I like that about Stanford. I don't think they're

1238
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 2: getting a double digit wins, but I think they're going

1239
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 2: to be. They're going to be a more interesting, impressive

1240
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 2: team this fall. I want to stay with you and

1241
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 2: talk about Cal now, Okay, so I love talking about Cal.

1242
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 1: I love Cal. Here's the question, and I am rooting

1243
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 1: for Cal. I was really high on Cal a year ago,

1244
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 1: m and that didn't work out. The whole Bauer hour

1245
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:26,919
Speaker 1: thing was sort of a disaster. Yeah, I would say,

1246
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 1: so he's no longer the quarterback. But we're at a

1247
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 1: place now where we look at Cal and I think

1248
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 1: we're both pretty excited about the defense. But the offense

1249
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 1: is a huge question mark, and I'm just wondering if

1250
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 1: there's any way to avoid Cal being one of those

1251
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 1: teams that we joke about halfway through the year being

1252
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 1: one of the half teams where they're really good on

1253
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: one side, of the ball and then aggressively mediocre on

1254
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 1: the other.

1255
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 2: Oh Man, that would be that's aggressively mediocre. Is the

1256
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 2: nicest thing that anybody has said about the twenty eighteen

1257
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 2: Cal offense. No, those those half teams, whether it was

1258
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 2: the Boston College there was the last Don Brown Boston

1259
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 2: College defense and what they looked like on offense. What

1260
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen miszoo, you know, the Texas Tech teams during

1261
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 2: the Cliff Kingsbury time, there were some horrid units on

1262
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 2: the other side of the field from a pretty excellent

1263
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 2: one and that was It's no different.

1264
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 1: With Cal last year. So is there hope this year

1265
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:25,919
Speaker 1: that they.

1266
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 2: That they're like a seventy two percenter instead of a

1267
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 2: half team? Yeah, yes, probably.

1268
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 1: Why do you feel that way about this offense?

1269
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 2: Well, it could be a different Starting quarterback Chase Garber's

1270
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 2: wasn't great, but it could be. Was it Devon Modster,

1271
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 2: the UCLA transfer they're battling right now. Yeah, Brandon mcawayane's

1272
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 2: moving to running back. Chris Brown was at least serviceable.

1273
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 2: They get CoA Crawford, the Michigan transfer receiver, They've only

1274
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 2: gotten more talented. They were basically only okay, on offense

1275
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 2: running the ball was Patrick Laird last year and he's

1276
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 2: gone on. But with how much they return on defense,

1277
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 2: I understand that means the degree to which their half

1278
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 2: team can only go up because on all three levels

1279
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 2: they're bringing back their best players essentially. But I think

1280
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 2: it has to get better. I think they reached rock bottom,

1281
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 2: so I think they can simply be bad. I think

1282
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 2: they can simply be not great, and that would lift

1283
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 2: them up. They win what they go seven to five

1284
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 2: last year with nothing on offense correct, and then I

1285
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 2: mean it's what six and six if you include the

1286
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 2: bowl game and the fact that one of those wins

1287
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 2: was against an FCS team, but nothing the ugliest bowl

1288
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 2: game in the best possible way in the Cheese Bowl

1289
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 2: against TCU, and they're a bowl team with nothing on offense. Essentially,

1290
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 2: they lose their best receiver before the season starts last

1291
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 2: year to transfer. I think it's something to build on.

1292
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 2: I think you're like, Okay, well we were able to

1293
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 2: win without an offense, so even if we have a little,

1294
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 2: it's an improvement, and so I think they're going to

1295
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 2: get there. I think they can get to not great,

1296
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:58,439
Speaker 2: win an extra game and go to eight and four

1297
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 2: as a best case is six and six, five and seven.

1298
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 2: But man Evan Weaver and Cameron Good it's probably the

1299
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 2: best linebacker duo in the conference.

1300
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 1: Correct.

1301
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:12,040
Speaker 2: Up front, Luke Beckett was a monster at times last year,

1302
01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 2: especially that USC game. And then these are both not

1303
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 2: their best units on defense because their secondary is locked

1304
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 2: in with you know, Ashton Davis is an All American

1305
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 2: caliber safety. Jalen Hawkins also really good at safety, and

1306
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 2: then they've had Cam bindenm and Elijah Hicks on both

1307
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 2: sides for what feels like eleven years at corner. They're

1308
01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 2: so locked in on defense that the offense is going

1309
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 2: to have every advantage the offense should be starting on

1310
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 2: third base. And so for that reason, for that reason,

1311
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 2: my chips are being pushed to the center of the table.

1312
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 2: Not that KL is going to be a good team,

1313
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 2: but that KL is going to be a nasty team.

1314
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 1: If Kl's a nasty team. Am I allowed to talk

1315
01:07:53,880 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 1: about Evan Weaver as the newfound dream Weaver in sing this? Sure?

1316
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 2: But you got to keep it going all season long

1317
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 2: through thick and thin dream Weaver.

1318
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 1: How's that also nasty time? But Cal?

1319
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:10,959
Speaker 2: The CAL defense is legitimately fun to watch. Evan Weaver

1320
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 2: is a converted defensive lineman and just wrecking shop had

1321
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 2: like one hundred and fifty some odd tackles last year.

1322
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 1: I love it all Right? Do you want to answer

1323
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 1: the final question on your side? And then I'll get

1324
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 1: three in a row? Oh my gosh. Sure you want

1325
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 1: to talk Oregon State football. I want to talk Oregon

1326
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 1: State football. Our friend Bill Connolly. Bill Connolly has Oregon

1327
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:34,640
Speaker 1: State projected for two point six wins this year. Yeah,

1328
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 1: one of them is over cal Poly. I want to

1329
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 1: know who the other one is over, and I'm going

1330
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 1: to read the Oregon State schedule here. I want you

1331
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 1: to tell me who you think the most likely second

1332
01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 1: victory or third victory, if you're feeling dangerous, would be over. Okay,

1333
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 1: you're ready, Yep, I'm ready. First week of the year,

1334
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State at home.

1335
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 2: Don't have a quarterback. I'm not confident though, so I'm

1336
01:08:57,920 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 2: going to say no at whole.

1337
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 1: Second week of the year. Possible, possible. Why is it

1338
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 1: tough out, but possible?

1339
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 2: Cal Poly pretty much by the way, shout out San

1340
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 2: Luis Obispo.

1341
01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 1: I would move there in a second. Then we get

1342
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 1: into the real meat out of the PAC twelve schedule

1343
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:18,919
Speaker 1: home against Stanford.

1344
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 2: If you're a believer in the body blow theory. Stanford

1345
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 2: has Oregon the week before, they play Oregon State. Two

1346
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 2: teams that are just going to be mashing each other

1347
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:26,799
Speaker 2: on in the trenches.

1348
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:31,719
Speaker 1: Next week at UCLA, I don't think they.

1349
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 2: Get the UCLA defense in the stronger part of Oregon States.

1350
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 2: Definitely be offense. They have Jamar Jefferson maybe the best

1351
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 2: running back in the country. You've probably never seen, good

1352
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 2: shape of receiver, offensive lines, experience not great, but not bad.

1353
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:48,800
Speaker 1: Home against Utah, tough to Utah.

1354
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:51,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have Wazoo the week before, as we mentioned,

1355
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:55,680
Speaker 2: which is tough, tough game. That's Utah is going to

1356
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:56,400
Speaker 2: probably win that game.

1357
01:09:56,479 --> 01:10:02,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. At Cal at Arizona, Washington, Arizona State, at Wazoo

1358
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 1: at Oregon. Can you find another win in there that

1359
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 1: you're confident in outside Cal Poly, Yes.

1360
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 2: They don't have Colorado, who they beat in Boulder last

1361
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 2: year in overtime, right, Yes, so that's too bad for

1362
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 2: my case. It's gonna be on the road at UCLA

1363
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 2: or at Cal. I think is the most likely because

1364
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 2: those are two teams with pretty big questions on one

1365
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 2: side of the ball, and it happens to be that

1366
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 2: UCLA's defense is not great, and there's Oregon State's strength,

1367
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:33,679
Speaker 2: and Cal's offense isn't great, so perhaps they can't again

1368
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 2: take advantage of Oregon State's pretty lackluster defense. So one

1369
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 2: of those is where the win's going to be.

1370
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 1: Do we feel like Oregon State showed signs of promise

1371
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 1: last year? Oh? Yeah.

1372
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 2: They were down a touchdown to USC going into the

1373
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,719
Speaker 2: fourth quarter, they were down five going into the fourth

1374
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 2: quarter against Washington State, and they beat Colorado in Boulder.

1375
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 2: They ran all over Ohio State for a chunk of

1376
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:00,120
Speaker 2: that game, and I think they beat Colorado with that

1377
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:05,760
Speaker 2: Labiska chanault. But like your favorite word, that the feistiness

1378
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,959
Speaker 2: was there for long stretches, which is all things considered,

1379
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 2: not so bad.

1380
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 1: What do they need to do in twenty nineteen for

1381
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 1: you to continue feeling like they've got things going in

1382
01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 1: a good direction.

1383
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 2: And he's run the ball. I mean, if their offense

1384
01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 2: is average, which it definitely can be, whether it's Jake

1385
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 2: Luton or Luton Luton, Free Luton Luton Luton or the

1386
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 2: Nebraska transfer Tristan Gebia Jebia. Yeah, I mean what Jonathan

1387
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 2: Smith did at Washington, if he can be seventy percent

1388
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 2: of that this year. If the Oregon State offense, they're

1389
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 2: going to be a not fun team to play. That's

1390
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 2: as nice as I can probably say about them. Because

1391
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 2: the defense is it's improving at a very slow pace,

1392
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:54,040
Speaker 2: not like the offense is. The offense has gotten good transfers.

1393
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 2: It's what the Nebraska quarterback anti John Lindsay comes from Nebraska,

1394
01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 2: who is a former blue chip a linebacker's gotten a

1395
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 2: little bit better. So yeah, I think the best case

1396
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 2: scenario for them is the offense is legitimately okay and

1397
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 2: the defense is only not great, just to take phrasing

1398
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 2: from other teams, and the best case is they go.

1399
01:12:13,800 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 1: Four and eight four innate. I would agree with that.

1400
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 2: If it's more of the same and the offense isn't

1401
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 2: good enough to overcome a still lowly defense, it's two

1402
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 2: and ten again probably all right, And even then you

1403
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:29,640
Speaker 2: were searching for that second win, So I guess it

1404
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 2: might be two ten, one and eleven, But I'm more

1405
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 2: confident in two to four wins than anything else.

1406
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:35,840
Speaker 1: Where do you want to go next year?

1407
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:39,519
Speaker 2: Three left all right, let's go to Asu because you

1408
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 2: told me earlier that you feel the tingles about Asu.

1409
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 1: I do. I do feel the tingles, Dan.

1410
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 2: So okay, let's hone in on a more specific question

1411
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 2: about Asu other than something about your tingles. Their offensive

1412
01:12:57,160 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 2: output was pretty similar in twenty seventeen and eighteen between

1413
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:02,799
Speaker 2: the Todd Graham and Herm Edwards era, but the defense

1414
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:06,600
Speaker 2: last year took a pretty impressive step forward. Where's the

1415
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen jump more defense or the offense with a

1416
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 2: new quarterback makes a jump after they didn't last year?

1417
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 1: Right?

1418
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:19,480
Speaker 2: Right?

1419
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 1: Well, it's a tough question for me to answer because

1420
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 1: I s feel like the quarterback competition, at least as

1421
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:30,360
Speaker 1: of now, is really a race to see you who

1422
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 1: hands the ball off to Eno Benjamin a thousand times

1423
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:36,720
Speaker 1: this year, which is the smart thing, And there's not

1424
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 1: a lot of depth along that line, so they've all

1425
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 1: got to stay healthy. But at least on paper, the

1426
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:44,400
Speaker 1: running game looks like it's going to be in a

1427
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 1: good spot with Eno Benjamin again and they're going to

1428
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 1: probably give him the ball a ton. So I guess

1429
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 1: with that being said, I'm looking at defense as my

1430
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 1: biggest question mark. We'll talk about the quarterback position really momentarily. Yeah,

1431
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 1: I just I got a lot of nice players there.

1432
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:03,720
Speaker 1: They do, they do. I'd like to see him take

1433
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 1: another step forward. The defensive line sees some turnover. I'm

1434
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing a lot more of Jermaine Woll,

1435
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 1: who looked great as a true freshman a year ago.

1436
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 1: He did. Very excited to see him. And a really

1437
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 1: exciting linebacker corps as well, with Merlin Robertson and Darien

1438
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 1: You ever see a picture of Merlin Robertson. Oh he's

1439
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 1: a monster. It's a man. He's forty. Yeah, Tyler Johnson

1440
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 1: also in the linebacking corps. I've got it bolded here

1441
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:36,080
Speaker 1: on my note sheet. They're very, very stout. The secondary

1442
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 1: is developing. Both corners are back. Should see some improvement

1443
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:43,759
Speaker 1: at safety now. If they can collectively grow and get better,

1444
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 1: that's an asset to have in the Pac twelve, sure,

1445
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 1: a true asset to have. They can take a step

1446
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,719
Speaker 1: forward there. I think it serves them well. It also

1447
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 1: serves them well in some of these road games that

1448
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 1: they have. I'm looking at Michigan State in Week three,

1449
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 1: which is I'm viewing that as a Bell Weather game.

1450
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 1: Michigan State has like nineteen starters back this year. Maybe

1451
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 1: not the most exciting team in college football, but it's

1452
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 1: a veteran group nonetheless.

1453
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:12,840
Speaker 2: And their offensive coordinators was their PA announcer last year,

1454
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:15,719
Speaker 2: and their defensive coordinator was the mascot he played Sparty

1455
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 2: last year. The defensive line coach ran the website up

1456
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 2: Charizo alarm.

1457
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 1: Your alarm's going off just in the nake of time here. Yeah.

1458
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:27,639
Speaker 1: My point is this, I think they need that defense

1459
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 1: as a stabilizing force while they try to figure out

1460
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 1: what exactly they're doing on offense with their new quarterback

1461
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 1: for sure, with their line. They got that road game

1462
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:40,440
Speaker 1: in Week three against Michigan State, which is important elsewhere,

1463
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 1: a road game in mid October against Utah which will

1464
01:15:44,520 --> 01:15:48,680
Speaker 1: be tough, home against Wazoo, USC and Oregon. The schedule

1465
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 1: works out, Okay. I feel really good about ASU getting

1466
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 1: to eight wins, maybe even more. Wow, I do I

1467
01:15:57,040 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 1: really do? My biggest question though, not where's the jump

1468
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 1: going to be? My biggest question is on offense. Yeah,

1469
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:06,320
Speaker 1: what it look like throwing the ball? Right now? The

1470
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 1: favorite at starting quarterbacks seems to be Dylan Sterling. Cole

1471
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 1: mm Hm he's a junior, but there's a ton of

1472
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:16,559
Speaker 1: steam on Jaden Daniels, who's a four star true freshman,

1473
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 1: got an offer from Bama and a handful of other

1474
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 1: West Coast schools with picked ASU. He was really good

1475
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:26,680
Speaker 1: in spring. He opened a lot of eyes. He may

1476
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 1: not be the guy right away, but I think it's

1477
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:30,680
Speaker 1: only a matter of time before we see him.

1478
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know if who's who's catching those passes

1479
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 2: because Nikhil Harry, I mean, Frank Darby is very good too,

1480
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 2: but Nikhil Harry was such a big part both in

1481
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:43,440
Speaker 2: what he did and his his gravity exactly exactly.

1482
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:46,719
Speaker 1: So I think initially the focal point of the offense

1483
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 1: is going to be handing the ball off to Eno

1484
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 1: Benjamin m hm. He does have experience blocking in front

1485
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:54,599
Speaker 1: of him, but just not a lot of depth. So

1486
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,000
Speaker 1: staying healthy up there is going to be the key.

1487
01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:00,640
Speaker 1: Running backs should be in the pretty good spot given it.

1488
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:02,679
Speaker 1: Eno Benjamin and he had a ton of work last year.

1489
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 1: But Nikhil Harry's gone out wide, as you said, and

1490
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 1: I think the wide receiving corp is fine. They just

1491
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 1: they don't have a weapon like Nikhil Harry. They don't

1492
01:17:10,439 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 1: have that alpha, that true playmaker that when you look

1493
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:15,839
Speaker 1: at the depth chart, that's who they're going to be targeting.

1494
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 1: So I think that guy needs to develop in order

1495
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 1: for me to feel better about this offense. Is certainly

1496
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 1: the wide receiving corps is only a bit of a

1497
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:28,599
Speaker 1: safety valve. Yeah. I mean I'm not going to feel

1498
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 1: great about the quarterback position until that true number one

1499
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 1: target develops. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And the good news is so the games they lose,

1501
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 2: they're competitive in. They lose to Oregon by too late,

1502
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 2: Stanford was close, Colorado was close, and that's not a

1503
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 2: great loss losing Colorado last year, but the Washington game

1504
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 2: was very close. San Diego State probably shouldn't have lost

1505
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 2: San Diego State. It was not a great ass tag

1506
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 2: team last year, but even in their losses, they never

1507
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 2: were outclassed by anybody and perhaps until Presno State in

1508
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:01,760
Speaker 2: the bowl game. But it's something that I feel a

1509
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:03,880
Speaker 2: lot better than I thought I would going into the

1510
01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:04,719
Speaker 2: Herm Edant Sarah.

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01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:08,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel for as much fun as we made

1512
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 1: of Herm Edwards and the awkward introduction at ASU, this

1513
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 1: is a pretty good team. This is this is a

1514
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 1: pretty good team. They've got a good defense. They got

1515
01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 1: to figure out quarterback, they got to stay healthy along

1516
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:23,599
Speaker 1: the line. But there are weapons here. If they can

1517
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 1: figure it all out and piece piece the machine back together,

1518
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 1: I think it. I think it's gonna be a good

1519
01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 1: year for Issue. So I'm excited about them not going

1520
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 1: crazy like I did a couple of years ago, and

1521
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 1: I picked them to the playoff. Yeah, but this this

1522
01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 1: should be a pretty good team in the Pac twelve.

1523
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 1: I like it. I like no more sitting on the

1524
01:18:40,720 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 1: fence for ty hilden brand I'm not not at all.

1525
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 1: Where are we going next? All right, let's go. Let's

1526
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 1: go to Colorado. I want to go back to Boulder.

1527
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 1: I miss Boulder. The number one thing. I believe you.

1528
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:56,679
Speaker 2: I'm talking about you, Tyler hilden Brandt. To be most confident,

1529
01:18:56,720 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 2: it is your boy. Stevie Montes to Laviska shanof Scott

1530
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 2: Stevie Montes.

1531
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:04,479
Speaker 1: Stevie Montes feels like he's been there about as long

1532
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:09,120
Speaker 1: as Joel Stave was at Wisconsin. There's something about the

1533
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 1: Mountain region. Let's go through it.

1534
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 2: Kellen Moore and Brett Rippon eleven years a piece of

1535
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 2: pois state. Sure, Taysom Hill, Chuckie, Keaton Tanner Mangum is

1536
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 2: going to be what a true sophomore this year?

1537
01:19:21,160 --> 01:19:21,600
Speaker 1: I think so.

1538
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 2: There's something about that Idaho, Utah, Colorado triad that that

1539
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:30,400
Speaker 2: keeps people young in playing college football for many, many years.

1540
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:32,599
Speaker 1: If you went, if you went to one hundred college

1541
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 1: football fans, yeah and ask them, is Kellen Moore playing

1542
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 1: quarterback this year for Boise State? What percentage would answer? Yes?

1543
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 2: They would there would there would be eight percent, no,

1544
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 2: fourteen percent of people. I was like, the sort of

1545
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:51,080
Speaker 2: skinny lefty Yeah, yeah, I think he Yeah, I think

1546
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 2: I saw him in a preview.

1547
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's back. Could you get to forty percent with that?

1548
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:58,919
Speaker 1: I think you could. Is he not the Dallas Cowboys

1549
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:01,639
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator? Now he's something like that, He's I think

1550
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 1: he's done well for himself. But to your point, I'm

1551
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 1: not sure college football fans that don't listen to our

1552
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 1: show would know that that's it's.

1553
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:13,839
Speaker 2: One hundred percent true. So those that connection Stevie montees

1554
01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:18,240
Speaker 2: Lavisque Schnaults, we know that's gonna make for like a fun,

1555
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 2: lethal stew Right good situation. Yeah, especially since Katie Nixon

1556
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:24,759
Speaker 2: is also there and take some of the attention away.

1557
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 2: But if you were to turn that stew into a

1558
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 2: complete meal tie, what is what is the buff's best

1559
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 2: side dish to go back to a bowl with. I

1560
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 2: don't know where I'm going with this comparison, but what's

1561
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 2: the side dish if that's the number one thing?

1562
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 1: If it is all right? Well, first off, let me

1563
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:48,600
Speaker 1: back up here. Colorado was a new coach, Yes they do.

1564
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:51,400
Speaker 1: Colorado went five and seventy year ago. Their new coach

1565
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 1: is Mel Tucker. He's been a defensive guy his entire career,

1566
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:59,439
Speaker 1: most recently at Georgia and Alabama, but way back when

1567
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 1: was at LSU and Ohio State. And he's got some

1568
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:05,240
Speaker 1: experience in the NFL, so he's been around, good experience

1569
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball. As you said,

1570
01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:11,679
Speaker 1: good situation for him in year one with Stevie Montes

1571
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 1: our boy and La Discas Shenault also our boy, Everyone's boy.

1572
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 1: Really yeah, of course, less than ideal situation along the line,

1573
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:22,800
Speaker 1: loses three starters, loses his top two running backs as well.

1574
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 1: Not feeling very optimistic about that offense outside of the

1575
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:32,040
Speaker 1: Stevie Lniska combo. I'm intrigued by their defense though, because

1576
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 1: they're very young and this is a defensive minded coach.

1577
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 1: Mustafa Johnson is the most experienced member of the front

1578
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 1: seven and he's just a junior. And I think, I

1579
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 1: just I keep coming back to this. I think it

1580
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 1: works really well for mel Tucker. Maybe not this year,

1581
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:52,400
Speaker 1: maybe in year's two and three, Okay, and probably not

1582
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 1: with this schedule, but I'm just so curious to see

1583
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:58,840
Speaker 1: what he does with the defense, with a defense this

1584
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:01,519
Speaker 1: young that I guess, if I'm forced to pick, that's

1585
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 1: the side dish that I'm intrigued by. You know, that

1586
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:07,679
Speaker 1: front of defense. That's the stuffing mixed with pineapple, Like, yeah,

1587
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:11,879
Speaker 1: maybe maybe not my first choice, but it's intriguing stuffing

1588
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,640
Speaker 1: in pineapple zoo? Do you put pineapple in you? You

1589
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 1: can make pineapple stuffing? Yeah? Is that something that you

1590
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 1: would be on your Thanksgiving table in the right situation.

1591
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:24,920
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, it's like that. It's interesting. I

1592
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 1: just thought you that's the first thing you went to

1593
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 1: as a side dish. It's I don't know, Dan, it's

1594
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:31,960
Speaker 1: been a long day at the mysterious day job. I'm

1595
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:34,720
Speaker 1: standing up. It's the last team we're talking Colorado. Give

1596
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 1: me a break here. Okay, all right, you've earned a break. God.

1597
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 2: So what what does their schedule look like? That seems

1598
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 2: unmanageable to you?

1599
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 1: Nebraska Week two? Yeah, at Arizona State, at Oregon, at

1600
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:52,400
Speaker 1: Wazoo home against USC. They close out the year with Stanford,

1601
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:56,000
Speaker 1: Washington and at utah Mm hmm. That ain't easy.

1602
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:58,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're gonna be interesting on offense. It's

1603
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:00,920
Speaker 2: it's tough to find because they started the season out

1604
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:03,920
Speaker 2: so well last year and just completely collapse. And some

1605
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 2: of that obviously has to do with key injuries at

1606
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 2: a couple different places, but it's going to take a while.

1607
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:11,519
Speaker 2: It's hard for me to see them as a bowl

1608
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 2: team unless they're just over the top explosive on offense

1609
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 2: and they win those fifty to fifty games. They won

1610
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 2: that game against Nebraska last year with the wild.

1611
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 1: Ending, I think.

1612
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 2: But the Huskers are a much better place in Colorado.

1613
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:25,720
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're better or worse, but they're

1614
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 2: in a much newer place with a new coach and

1615
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 2: a new staff calling plays. So it's tough for me

1616
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 2: to see them bowl eligible this year.

1617
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 1: But I think I'm with you.

1618
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:39,760
Speaker 2: Saying that, you know what, and I think there's more

1619
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 2: talent there than we might think about with how they

1620
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 2: finished out last year. The defense has gotten too a

1621
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 2: pretty interesting place. They have good receivers. It's just the

1622
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:53,920
Speaker 2: week to week consistency with As you mentioned, Roade Oregon road,

1623
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:57,840
Speaker 2: Wazoo playing at UCLA is not particularly tough. But you know,

1624
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 2: the quote unquote rivalry game against you on the road,

1625
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:03,120
Speaker 2: it's it's rough, man.

1626
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 1: It just is. End of the year is really tough. Yeah,

1627
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 1: and you'd know the wins. You hope that maybe they

1628
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:12,760
Speaker 1: get better by that stage of the season. But Stanford

1629
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 1: Washington at Utah not the easiest way to close out

1630
01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:16,559
Speaker 1: your campaign.

1631
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:19,360
Speaker 2: No, And it could be an even feistter UCLA team.

1632
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 2: It could be a wide open, fun usc team. And

1633
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:24,679
Speaker 2: we know Wazoo is just going to be, if nothing else,

1634
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 2: an incredibly tough out.

1635
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:29,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't know. I mean the back half.

1636
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:32,760
Speaker 1: I like the hire of Mel Tucker, and we've had

1637
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 1: guests on this show throughout the off season saying that

1638
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 1: Mel Tucker seemingly is a pretty good hire. I'll hire

1639
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 1: that people are excited about. Yeah, I think I mean

1640
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:45,280
Speaker 1: that camp it's just it's like so many other programs,

1641
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 1: it's going to take a while to get there. Like that,

1642
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:49,640
Speaker 1: he's got a young defense that he can mold and

1643
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:52,719
Speaker 1: at least in year one Stevie Montes Laviska Chanault should

1644
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 1: make these games very watchable.

1645
01:24:55,880 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 2: The thing that has me a little bit worried, and

1646
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:00,719
Speaker 2: maybe this is has been adjusted and maybe the attitude

1647
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:02,400
Speaker 2: has changed a little bit, But when he got there,

1648
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:06,320
Speaker 2: the sort of cliches that he gave and his press

1649
01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 2: conference is just we're going to be old school, yeah tough,

1650
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 2: We're going to you know, we're gonna run the wall

1651
01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:14,679
Speaker 2: and that. First of all, it doesn't mean anything either

1652
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:18,680
Speaker 2: way necessarily, but that mindset, I think gets in the

1653
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:21,080
Speaker 2: way of progress, gets in the way of interesting hires

1654
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 2: to run an offense that you are locked into ways

1655
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:29,719
Speaker 2: that will set you back instead of moving you forward.

1656
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:32,799
Speaker 2: But I'm hopeful, I'm hopeful because of his experience on defense,

1657
01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 2: that you know, the defense is going to jump from

1658
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:39,679
Speaker 2: being okay to pretty good pretty quickly, because I believe

1659
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 2: in him as a recruiter and I believe in him

1660
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:44,080
Speaker 2: as somebody who can put together a nice defense.

1661
01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 1: Alrighty, there you have it all twelve of the PAC

1662
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:50,759
Speaker 1: twelve here on the show. Please do right Insuli Verbal

1663
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 1: at gmail dot com, on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, read it.

1664
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:56,519
Speaker 1: Let us know what we got right, what we got wrong,

1665
01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 1: who you're picking to win the conference? Doing our best

1666
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:02,160
Speaker 1: here to try and go through all the teams. Give

1667
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 1: you a portal into what's going on at all twelve

1668
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:07,720
Speaker 1: of these schools and really all of the Power five

1669
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 1: schools and some group of fives. As we progress through

1670
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 1: here the month of August talking about like twenty nineteen

1671
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 1: college football season. Dan. One final note, please Dan, please,

1672
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:22,720
Speaker 1: only a few days left. I need you to make

1673
01:26:23,080 --> 01:26:26,200
Speaker 1: your most desperate plea to all the reballers who might

1674
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 1: be in North Texas. Might be a plea see area.

1675
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:33,160
Speaker 1: Please do give us your best sell job for why

1676
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 1: they should come out to the show.

1677
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:38,120
Speaker 2: We don't need them. I don't need to plead with them.

1678
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:41,639
Speaker 2: They know what they're getting with us. They're gonna show,

1679
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 2: not just two people talking on stage. You're gonna show.

1680
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna plead with you. You should come. I think

1681
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:49,720
Speaker 2: you should come, and it's gonna be a great time.

1682
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:51,560
Speaker 2: I cannot wait to do these shows. We got a

1683
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:53,800
Speaker 2: bunch of different things planned it's gonna be a great

1684
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:55,720
Speaker 2: time coming out at the Alamo Draft House. We have

1685
01:26:55,720 --> 01:26:58,000
Speaker 2: a big old screen behind us doing stuff on the screen.

1686
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 2: Same with DC and Union State. I've got a couple

1687
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:05,600
Speaker 2: of incredible shows planned and just the dancing, the spectacle,

1688
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 2: the fireworks, the pyrotechnics. Tie has been doing back handsprings

1689
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:15,799
Speaker 2: for months preparing. I just yeah, soliverbletickets dot com, slash Texas,

1690
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 2: solidverbaltickets dot com, slash DC, get on there. We're running

1691
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 2: low on tickets. I would recommend them. There's air conditioning,

1692
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:26,320
Speaker 2: the Shiit contenders. I just those are two boxes that

1693
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:27,680
Speaker 2: if those are checked, I'm in.

1694
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 1: I'm there. Bring a friend. Yeah, everybody knows somebody. If

1695
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:33,720
Speaker 1: you listen to this show, you know somebody else who

1696
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:36,760
Speaker 1: likes college football. Bring a friend with you. Even if

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Speaker 1: they don't listen to this show, bring them along. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna make it fun. We've done enough live shows now

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Speaker 1: to know what we're doing our way around a live show.

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Speaker 1: Damn it, this is true. It's gonna be a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun, even if they're not the biggest college football fans.

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Speaker 1: We promise. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Can I ask you a question though about the PAC twelve,

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Speaker 2: Please will this conference acquit itself as a conference, fairly

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Speaker 2: or unfairly? As you know, how they look early in September,

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Speaker 2: how they look in bowl season, who's at the top,

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Speaker 2: and how they are perceived nationally? Will they perceive well?

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Speaker 2: Will the PAC twelve look better nationally to you in

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Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, say stay better?

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Speaker 1: Worse? No, They're going to kill each other off. So

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Speaker 1: if you're asking this, if you're asking this within the

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Speaker 1: framework of the existing playoff system, I don't think the

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Speaker 1: PAC twelve gets in. I think they all kill each

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Speaker 1: other off. Who's in the championship game? The PAC twelve

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Speaker 1: championship game Utah and the winner of Oregon Washington. Okay,

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Speaker 1: who wins that game? It's in Seattle. Games in Seattle.

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Speaker 1: I will go with Utah. No, No, I mean who

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Speaker 1: wins the Organ Washington game? Utah.

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Speaker 2: If Utah wins the Organ Washington team, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: I'll out say everything about Andy Ludwig.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Oregon. Okay, Oregon, Utah. Let's you know what,

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Speaker 1: let's double up WI. On that note, for everyone out there,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for listening to the show. We

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Speaker 1: will catch you all in a few days when we

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Speaker 1: talk about the Big Ten. For that go over there

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Speaker 1: my good friend Dan Rubenstein, for myself, Tie Hildebrand. Enjoy

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Speaker 1: the rest of your week if you're listening on the weekend,

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Speaker 1: your day at work, whatever you're doing, stay solid, Peace,