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Speaker 2: Here's this week's episode.

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Speaker 3: Welcome In. Welcome In. It's a Late Round Fantasy football

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Speaker 3: show sponsored by DraftKings. David Kitchen here COO of Late

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Speaker 3: Round Media, with my CEO JJ Zacharyeson. Jj I saw

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Speaker 3: a post on X Today and it said something along

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Speaker 3: the lines of the biggest hack in life is to

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Speaker 3: find you a manager that is a middle a girl.

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Speaker 4: Dad.

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Speaker 2: Oh really is that that? Actually?

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Speaker 1: That actually kind of probably is a very real thing.

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Speaker 1: There's more, there's more compassion. You know, they're not too

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Speaker 1: old where their life is just their job. They have

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Speaker 1: to do things outside of work. But they're raising girls

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Speaker 1: bit more of that empathy.

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Speaker 4: There's a synath there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not not to say that that boy dads can't.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying I have.

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Speaker 1: A boy and I have a girl, and my boy

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Speaker 4: Uh, this is the post launch.

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Speaker 3: Era of late round media as far as we just

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Speaker 3: launched our Prospect Guide on Monday, actually Sunday night.

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Speaker 4: As is the case that we usually do, so people

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Speaker 3: I had our friend Stephen Krupka messaged me yesterday a

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Speaker 3: picture he goes to FedEx every year and gives the

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Speaker 3: guide to them and has them print it out and

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Speaker 3: put it in a binder.

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Speaker 2: I've seen people do that before.

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Speaker 1: I've also we've already gotten the request from someone to

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Speaker 2: Audio file for the guide.

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Speaker 1: I will say the Prospect Guide is a lot easier

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Speaker 1: to do that than the Draft Guide is because the

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Speaker 1: Draft Guide is so image and chart heavy and stuff

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Speaker 1: that it's really really difficult to translate that into audio.

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Speaker 1: You could hypothetically do it for the Prospect Guide, but look,

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to get into that.

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Speaker 2: That's what we're already doing a lot.

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Speaker 1: It's one hundred and seventy pages of content, and I

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Speaker 1: don't have time to like to record it. Could I

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Speaker 1: talk in a couple of years when AI is like flawless.

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Speaker 4: I was about to say, ROBOJJ is coming.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to be like I don't. I don't

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Speaker 3: want to scare people. But it's just like a perfect

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Speaker 4: And the zapp score. So it's there have to be

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean it would be.

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Speaker 1: It would I mean, in my opinion, would be really

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Speaker 1: The thing is, though I've always I've always viewed the

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Speaker 1: The fact that they're bringing that up means that is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, the the guides done I've needed. I've been working.

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Speaker 1: I'm not like a massive gamer anymore because I have

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Speaker 1: But regardless, I picked up Pocopia. I did the new

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Speaker 3: I told you about my stint with Clash of Clans.

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Speaker 3: So I'm just gonna stay away and I'm gonna live

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Speaker 3: But we're going to get in a few segments. We're

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Speaker 2: Let's do it, all right, Today's Fantasy News.

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Speaker 1: Downgrade and what's going on right now in Miami it

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Speaker 1: are getting better for Devon agent right, Jalen Wattle going

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Speaker 1: So I think Jalen Waddle himself as a player is

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Speaker 1: I'm not worried about this competition on this team. Jalen

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Speaker 1: you know, he wins differently than Jalen Wattle. Will Wattle

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Speaker 1: in the end, good players create, good players create target share.

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Speaker 3: And we talk about draft capital. I mean, you have

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Speaker 3: to look at what the Broncos did. Yeah, they had

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Speaker 3: this room of receivers. Benjamin Sleek said that possibly they

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Speaker 4: But that's that's a lot of draft capital.

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Speaker 3: For, you know, for someone, so I you know, there

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Speaker 3: they plan on using him.

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Speaker 1: So, like I compare it to like, you know, Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Like I like both of those players in their new

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Speaker 1: But I think Wattle is like any Buffalo fans out

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Speaker 1: Dobbins went down when they needed more blockers or better

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Speaker 3: Brown moving to the Eagles, so ten million dollar, one

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Speaker 1: But I think Devantae Smith is a really good wide receiver,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, right? I mean different different coordinator in situations.

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Speaker 3: We'll see, say it with me jj better and best

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Speaker 1: so you know, it's again you could throw a dart

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Speaker 1: and best ball.

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Speaker 2: That's really what this kind of signing is.

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Speaker 1: This isn't a you know, Adam from a season long perspective.

441
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Speaker 1: And by the way, the stuff that I talked about

442
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Speaker 1: on the free agency episode, I think it needs to

443
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Speaker 1: be clear that that was more from a season long

444
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Speaker 1: redraft perspective. Like the base Shall Tuton Chris Rodriguez discussion.

445
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Speaker 1: Base Shall Tuton is the by far the season long

446
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Speaker 1: upside kind of guy where even if you miss, you

447
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Speaker 1: can make up for it, and such, Chris Rodriguez might

448
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Speaker 1: be the better value from a best ball perspective, because

449
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Speaker 1: you're gonna get some production, you know, late in your draft.

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Speaker 4: And that that's big a few spike weeks from him.

451
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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: And and because like I think the most likely outcome

453
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Speaker 1: is a committee in that in that backfield, but the

454
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Speaker 1: ceiling outcome is easily base shall Tuton between the two.

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Speaker 1: But that's again, like Christian Kirk very unlikely to be

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Speaker 1: someone in season long that we're gonna be plucking and

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Speaker 1: playing each week.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what about this one? Justin Field's going to the Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean I think it's like a long

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Speaker 3: pause because people don't know what to think about this.

461
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Speaker 1: When I saw it go down, my initial thought was, Okay,

462
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes obviously had the ACL last year. They want

463
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Speaker 1: to have like a veteran that could play behind him,

464
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Speaker 1: that could step in. I saw some people be like,

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Speaker 1: why wouldn't they get Kirk Cousins. Well, I think that

466
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Speaker 1: they ideally would want to have someone in development too

467
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Speaker 1: that they could feel confident in that's younger and such,

468
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Speaker 1: and that could be dynamic.

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Speaker 2: And obviously Justin Fields is that, just like Fields is.

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Speaker 1: Capable of doing big things in an individual game environment.

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Speaker 2: The problem with Justin Fields is the consistency.

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Speaker 1: Game in game out, you know, and him doing that

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Speaker 1: across the entirety of a season and such like.

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Speaker 2: We know that he can win games with his legs and.

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Speaker 1: It's not like he can't complete a pass, and so

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Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs see that, and obviously he's a

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Speaker 1: dynamic player. And the other thing too, signing Fields instead

478
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Speaker 1: of a guy like Cousins, you could hypothetically have special

479
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Speaker 1: packages for Justin Fields and and Andy Reid and.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, someone said triple option with with Mahomes, Fields

481
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Speaker 3: and Kenth Walker.

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Speaker 4: Just just imagine the possibilities there. Yeah. Oh right, Darnald

483
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Speaker 4: Mooney to the Giants.

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Speaker 2: I like missed this.

485
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Speaker 3: I went back through our channel, you know, in the

486
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Speaker 3: the Discord, we have our news and rumors channel. I

487
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 3: was like, oh, I totally missed this signing. So Darnall

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Speaker 3: Movie Mooney goes to the Giants this year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, deep threat for them.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's like another type of like Darius Slayton

491
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Speaker 1: type player for them. But yeah, I like, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to bring up Darnell Mooney too much

493
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Speaker 1: on this show anymore. After telling people last year in

494
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Speaker 1: season like three weeks in a row to pick.

495
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Speaker 2: Him up and then he did absolutely nothing.

496
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Speaker 1: But I still think that he can play like a

497
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Speaker 1: down the field role in that offense, and there's really

498
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Speaker 1: no obvious two in that offense.

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Speaker 2: So it's a little bit intriguing from that perspective.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's look at some available still available free agents.

501
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Speaker 3: So I've got him listed here. I thought caliber Ridley

502
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Speaker 3: was gonna be on this list, but he took a

503
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Speaker 3: pay cut to stay with Tennessee, which was, yeah, he knows.

504
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Speaker 2: That the Titans are super Bowl bound. Baby.

505
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Speaker 3: He saw those jerseys and he was like, yeah, I'm

506
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Speaker 3: not going anywhere. You cut my price tag, my cap

507
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Speaker 3: hit by eleven million, I'll be I'll be good Quarterbacks.

508
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Speaker 3: You saw Kirk Cousins and Aaron Rodgers. Assuming Aaron Rodgers

509
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Speaker 3: right now goes to the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm assuming. I'm assuming Rogers will be a Steeler.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: And then receivers, we have Tyreek Hill, Stefon Diggs, Deebo.

513
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Speaker 3: Samuel, and Juwan Jennings. I don't know if like Ayuka

514
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Speaker 3: is gonna be in this list.

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Speaker 1: The only the only person that surprises me a little

516
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Speaker 1: bit there is Juwan just because yeah, I mean remember

517
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Speaker 1: last year he was like he was like hoping to

518
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Speaker 1: get a big contract and stuff.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, huge contract is coming right off.

520
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Speaker 1: The Super Bowl, And yeah, I think I think Juwan

521
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Speaker 1: Jennings is a good player, but he's not like take

522
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Speaker 1: over the game type player. You know, he's always gonna

523
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Speaker 1: have separation issues and such. But like Debo and Stefan Diggs,

524
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Speaker 1: Tyreek Kill coming off the injury, they're all kind of

525
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Speaker 1: over the hill.

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Speaker 2: At this point.

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Speaker 1: And I think, you know, if you look at the

528
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Speaker 1: last like five to ten years in the way that

529
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Speaker 1: especially wide receiver has sort of played out, you do

530
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Speaker 1: generally see some of these veterans sign later in the

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Speaker 1: process then then right away Juwan's Juan's the only one.

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Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't be shocked if he's a one of

533
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Speaker 1: the Dolphins go tos or if Deebo is one of

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Speaker 1: those players.

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Speaker 2: Just because you know they need they need something. It's

536
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Speaker 2: just a.

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Speaker 1: Matter of at this point in their careers, what's going

538
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Speaker 1: to be important for them?

539
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Speaker 2: Is it?

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Speaker 1: Is it that Like I think from Jetting's perspective, it

541
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Speaker 1: would be money, because it's not like he's been highly

542
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Speaker 1: sought after and touted throughout his career and so therefore

543
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Speaker 1: maybe the Dolphins can offer him something to be their one,

544
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Speaker 1: you know, this year, to get them something, whereas the

545
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Speaker 1: other guys might be might be searching for that ring.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he hasn't had like a huge contract, and so

547
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Speaker 3: he's I think he's going to be searching for some

548
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Speaker 3: for some cash.

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Speaker 1: Which, by the way, which by the shout out friend

550
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Speaker 1: of the Show Kendrick Bourne for his new new team

551
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Speaker 1: in Arizona and signing a contract there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's what we were talking about.

553
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Speaker 3: As far as Malik willis, he had the option to

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Speaker 3: go to the Cardinals or the Dolphins, And to me,

555
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Speaker 3: it's like, if you had the option and you were

556
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Speaker 3: in like winning or like your environment was important, I'd

557
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Speaker 3: want to go to the Cardinals because at least they

558
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Speaker 3: have past catching options there.

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Speaker 4: Friend of the Show, MHJ.

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Speaker 3: Trey McBride, you know, like they there's at least options

561
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Speaker 3: there in Arizona.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean maybe, I I mean, I think

563
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Speaker 1: both franchises are are kind of you know, in the

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Speaker 1: Crapper at the moment.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm just saying one one Crapper seems to

566
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Speaker 3: be a lot crappier.

567
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Speaker 4: Than the other.

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, agreed, uh that.

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Speaker 3: Calvin Ridley though, when he stayed with the Titans. Does

570
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Speaker 3: that make you bullish on the Titans passing attack this year?

571
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't say bullish. It's probably probably a little too

572
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Speaker 2: strong over.

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Speaker 4: You don't know if you're coming around to things so fine.

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Speaker 1: I think cam Ward would might end up being like

575
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Speaker 1: a late round Darth yeah this year, because I just

576
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: care care about mobility. Like quarterback is so deep that

577
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Speaker 1: you're gonna get Malik Willis relatively late, You're gonna get

578
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Speaker 1: cam Ward relatively late. I think Malik Willis is a

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Speaker 1: much better obviously, Like Malik Willis is like potentially maybe

580
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Speaker 1: this is too hot, potentially like prolific as a rusher, right,

581
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Speaker 1: Like I'm not saying that, like that's what's gonna come

582
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Speaker 1: out and what we're gonna see, but that floor because remember,

583
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Speaker 1: rushing at quarterback in fantasy is about floor, not ceiling.

584
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Speaker 2: You need the passing for a ceiling to.

585
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Speaker 1: Hit floor will get you Turell Pryor and Tim Tebow

586
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Speaker 1: and stuff like that that we saw throughout the the

587
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Speaker 1: mid twenty tens. Ceiling what we've seen from these Unicorns

588
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: recently as the Josh Allens Lamar Jackson's where they're putting

589
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 1: up seven percent touchdown rates on top of having these

590
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Speaker 1: crazy rushing numbers and finding the end zone so much.

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Speaker 1: I think Malik Willis can do the rushing side. Can

592
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Speaker 1: he do the passing side? I don't know, but I'm

593
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Speaker 1: willing to throw that dart because why wouldn't we again?

594
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Speaker 1: Season long redraftick although it's mostly the same, probably in

595
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Speaker 1: Bestball too.

596
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Speaker 3: Hashtag layer on QB says joebol Bondi and Thomas Scotti. Translation, JJ,

597
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 3: please say something nice about the Titans.

598
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Speaker 4: Yes, that's what it was. I am all for these mocks.

599
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Speaker 3: That have Jeremiah Love going to the Titans. I know

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Speaker 3: it's a lot at number four to draft a running back.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot for that particular franchise in my opinion.

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Speaker 3: Ye, yes, but it'd be fun. And that's kind of

603
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Speaker 3: where I'm at right now. Let's just have some fun. Sure,

604
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Speaker 3: let's have some fun with today's data as well.

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Speaker 2: Today's data.

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Speaker 3: All right, we got best and worst ZAP values versus

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Speaker 3: DraftKings average draft position. So we mentioned earlier DraftKings has

608
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Speaker 3: the they have the early best ball and so this

609
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 3: is before the draft has kicked off a million dollars

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Speaker 3: for this contest, and right now people are just they're

611
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Speaker 3: throwing darts and they are assuming. You know, things change

612
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 3: like the Wattle trade that would change ADP draft is

613
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Speaker 3: going to change ADP as far as before and after.

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Speaker 3: But JJ, you took your ZAP values and compare them

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Speaker 3: to these ADPs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have the ZAP categories for these guys, and

617
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Speaker 1: then I have my positional ranks and my rankings. Then

618
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Speaker 1: I'm showing the delta the difference between my positional rankings

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Speaker 1: and where DraftKings ADP currently has them. The biggest player

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Speaker 1: where there's the biggest difference is Antonio Williams. So Antonio

621
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Speaker 1: Williams coming out of Clemson was productive every year there,

622
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Speaker 1: but never ultra productive.

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Speaker 2: And more than likely.

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Speaker 1: Uh is a is a slot player at the NFL level,

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Speaker 1: and that definitely, you know, I've written talked about a

626
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: lot of that this offseason. I wrote about in newsletters

627
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Speaker 1: about the slot player kind of disappearing from the game.

628
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Speaker 1: But in the right environment, number one, maybe he could

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Speaker 1: be a little bit more. But number two, if a

630
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Speaker 1: team runs a lot of eleven personnel, I think that

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Speaker 1: he can make an impact. His top comp in the

632
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: model was actually Lad Mconkee. Now that doesn't mean that

633
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Speaker 1: he is Lad, but it is saying not only that,

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Speaker 1: but the model wasn't like, didn't hate Lad the new

635
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Speaker 1: iterations and stuff.

636
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Speaker 2: It didn't like love mconky.

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Speaker 1: But the weird thing with Antonio Williams right now, you

638
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: can see my positional rank as eleventh a wide receiver

639
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Speaker 1: for him, and he's ranked nineteenth by ADP right now,

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00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,719
Speaker 1: So all the zapp scores in my rankings are going

641
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Speaker 1: to be anchored by projected draft capital. Right now in

642
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Speaker 1: NFL mock draft database, he's a top seventy overall pick.

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Speaker 1: He's he's projected to go after Malachi Fields before Elijah Surrat,

644
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Speaker 1: who people have way above him. Understand I love Surat

645
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: so understandably, so above Skylar Bell, above Bryce Lance. I mean,

646
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,479
Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of players that people like. Then

647
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: Antonio Williams is projected to be drafted ahead of We'll

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Speaker 1: see what happens, but I do think that you should

649
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Speaker 1: be leveraging a lot of the mock draft resources out

650
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Speaker 1: there when you're doing these early best ball drafts, because

651
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Speaker 1: you could be drafting players like Eric McAllister, for instance,

652
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: who the that Moodel likes a lot like McAllister has

653
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Speaker 1: one of the best breakout scores in this class. But

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Speaker 1: I don't know if McAllister is going to be a

655
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Speaker 1: Day two pick, and if he's a Day three pick,

656
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Speaker 1: then I mean it's it's rough, right.

657
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 2: There's some off the field stuff.

658
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Speaker 1: I didn't even write about this in the in the guide,

659
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Speaker 1: but there's some small off the field stuff that that

660
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Speaker 1: might be driving that cost down a little bit. But

661
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Speaker 1: if he's a Day three pick, we don't see wide

662
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: receivers very frequently give us much usability, especially as rookies

663
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Speaker 1: out of Day three. So McAllister being one of those

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Speaker 1: players where right now I have him ranked four spots

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Speaker 1: lower than where he's he's going. Let's go back to

666
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: the favorable guys.

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00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 2: Ted Hurst.

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Speaker 1: I have him seven wide receiver spots ahead. This is

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00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: more of a I think like I actually think ted

670
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 1: Hurst could be better in best ball. He's he's a

671
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: deep threat, he's a down the field player, perimeter player.

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00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 2: One of his three.

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Speaker 1: Comps was Nico Collins, but he's leaner than Collins. Collins

674
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: a little bit beefier that than ted Hurst is but Hurst,

675
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: you know, coming from a smaller school, I get a

676
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: little bit afraid of that because we don't generally see

677
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: many hits from small school wide receivers. But in this class,

678
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:32,959
Speaker 1: in this draft class, you get a lot of like

679
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Speaker 1: mediocre profiles once you get outside of the top six

680
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: or seven wide receivers. And I'm willing to place that

681
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: bet On Hurst at wide receiver ten right now versus

682
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: wide receiver seventeen via draftings ADP Chris Belt.

683
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 2: Chris Belt, what were we gonna say?

684
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Speaker 3: I was just gonna say that with these ADPs of

685
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Speaker 3: like Antonio Williams, Ted Hurst, and Chris Bell, they're in

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Speaker 3: the two thirties right now, which is basically in the

687
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Speaker 3: twentieth round.

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00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, so they are there free.

689
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Speaker 3: And what this is also saying with the two thirties

690
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Speaker 3: is that there are some drafts that they are not

691
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Speaker 3: being drafted at all. To talk about like unique, having

692
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 3: some of these guys being on your team would set

693
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Speaker 3: you up for potential success during the season.

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Speaker 1: One thing I'll say about Chris Bell, and I wanted

695
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: to keep him on here because I just wanted to

696
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: go with a process. To show you the difference between

697
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: my is that Bell is coming off in ACL, so

698
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: I do think that you can largely ignore him from

699
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: a draft perspective if you want to, because we don't

700
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Speaker 1: know when he's going to.

701
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Speaker 2: Actually be healthy enough to play.

702
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Speaker 1: But Bell right now has a fifty fourth overall draft

703
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: capital tag on a NFL mock draft database, so he's

704
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: he's in a spot where he's likely to go Day two.

705
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: I don't love Chris Bell. I don't hate him. He's

706
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: just another one of those like bigger bodied out outside

707
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: perimeter receivers, but he does have a little bit more

708
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: to his build than some of the other guys, like

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Speaker 1: a Chris Brazzle or you know, a Ted Hurst who

710
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: I talked about, a Jacobe Lane, those players that are

711
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Speaker 1: a little bit leaner. Chris Bell has a little bit

712
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Speaker 1: more bulk to him, which might intrigue a team, which

713
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: might rise his his draft capital a little bit. But

714
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 1: you got to you gotta watch out for him because

715
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: of the injury. And then at running back, I have

716
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Speaker 1: Emma Johnson at RB two in this class right now.

717
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 2: That can change.

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Speaker 1: That probably will change because there's a lot of variability

719
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: in there, but right now he's RB five over on DraftKings,

720
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 1: but one thing I'll say is DraftKings is a full

721
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 1: PPR site, and Emma Johnson is probably the best pass

722
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Speaker 1: catching running back in this class. So there's a very

723
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Speaker 1: real chance that especially if he it's Day two draft capital,

724
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Speaker 1: I don't know if he will, but early day three,

725
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: even if he's a round four pick, you know, he

726
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: could play some sort of pass catching role to start

727
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 1: the season if he finds the right spot. So I

728
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: like Emma Johnson as a as a player, as a prospect,

729
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: and the fact that he's three, you know, I'm three

730
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: spots ahead. That high in a rankings list is pretty significant.

731
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Speaker 1: And then on the bad and I already talked about

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Speaker 1: Eric McCallister, Zach Branch, who I've talked about a lot

733
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: on shows. He's a gadgety player who might be better

734
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: in best So I can understand this to a degree.

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00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: I'm just not in love with the profile. This is

736
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: a profile where you know, he got a lot of

737
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: looks behind the line of scrimmage, a lot of manufactured stuff.

738
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Speaker 1: And if you look at history, this is in the

739
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Speaker 1: Prospect Guide, but if you look at history, players who've

740
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Speaker 1: been drafted on Day two with this kind of just

741
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: in general, actually, but in day two in particular, with

742
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: this kind of usage, the only guys that have really

743
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: hit over the last five or six years has been

744
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: Luther Burden and Wandel Robinson. But both of them had

745
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: way better age Ajustine production than Zach Branch. Did You

746
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: You're gonna get guys like Anthony Schwartz, like Rondel Moore

747
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 1: rest in Peace. You know, like just a lot of

748
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: players who were decent in college, had a lot of

749
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: speed and ability, but they were on the smaller side

750
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: and they didn't find the right team to really maximize

751
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,439
Speaker 1: that gadgetiness to their game. And I think that that's

752
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,479
Speaker 1: what we have was Zach Branch, where like his top

753
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: comp is me Cole Hardman.

754
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 2: That's another example I could have thrown out there.

755
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: But like the you know, like I would not be

756
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: shocked at all if the Chiefs really like Zach Branch,

757
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: because this is just the archetype that they seem to

758
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,959
Speaker 1: enjoy going after, whether it be Mikol Hardman or ending

759
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: up with Kadarius Tony, who's another player that would profile

760
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: as this kind of kind of guy.

761
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 2: He just scares me from a production perspective.

762
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: Jacobe Lane, lanky outside perimeter receiver, find enough production profile,

763
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: but I didn't think he had anything special to his game.

764
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: I'm five spots below and then Bryce Lance. Now I

765
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: think I subjectively might like Bryce Lance a little bit

766
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: more than what the ZAP model is showing, but it's

767
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: he's getting a lot of steam. People really like Bryce Lance,

768
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Speaker 1: and I think there's a lot of things that are

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00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: at play here. Number One, he's unbelievably athletic. Number Two,

770
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Speaker 1: he's coming from the same school that Christian Watson came from,

771
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Speaker 1: and Christian Watson obviously has moderately hit, and he's at

772
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: least like a big play threat that's great in best Ball,

773
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: and so we're making that direct comp There's also the

774
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 1: story of him being Trey Lance's brother, which might.

775
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 4: Say the family dynamic.

776
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, get him on people's radars, but there's a lot

777
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: of red flags. Who was an a litle profile. He

778
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: didn't produce until after three years in college, like he

779
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: did nothing, literally like nothing. And then he's older, he's

780
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: an older prospect, and the combination of all that, he

781
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: is a breakout score of zero. He just didn't register

782
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: it because his adjusted receiving yards for team pass attempt

783
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: never got high enough at.

784
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:17,240
Speaker 2: The right age.

785
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: So he you know, he did give us crazy production

786
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: towards the end of his collegiate career, but it was

787
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 1: a little bit too late just given his age, and

788
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,240
Speaker 1: then you adjusted down based on the program strength.

789
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 2: It just it's a very very volatile profile.

790
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: And when I'm approaching the draft, like pre draft, I

791
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 1: don't want to put a very volatile profile very high

792
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: in my rankings until I see landing spot in draft

793
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 1: capital officially, you know, I'll play it a little bit safer,

794
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: which is why I think, like in Antonio Williams, who

795
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: I think can play in a lot of spots aside

796
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: from you know, the eleven personnel stuff that I talked about,

797
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: he's at least a safe bet as a player, like

798
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: we generally know what we're getting from him, or like

799
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 1: I think ted Hurst can work almost anywhere.

800
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Speaker 2: And so that's that's my stance on bred Lance right now.

801
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: I mean, Deebro really likes him, and I respect the

802
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: crap out of Debro and the work that he does,

803
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: and he talked him up last week on perspectives and

804
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: so like there's a lot and I know that like

805
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: Brugler seems to like Lance and so like, there's a

806
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: lot of people that are on Lance that I, you know,

807
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: approve of as analysts that I'm I'm that I enjoy

808
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: as analysts, and so yeah, that makes me think a

809
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: little bit differently. And this is the thing with the

810
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: player like Lance, and this is more dynasty and rookie

811
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 1: draft focus. But with a player like Lance, I'm fine

812
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: with you like spending a third or a fourth round

813
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 1: pick on a player like this. You know, it's when

814
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,919
Speaker 1: the hype train does get you know, or at least

815
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: a lot of people start to back the guy, and

816
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: then his adp rises and then you know he's overdrafted

817
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: because of the athleticism. We know historically that those kinds

818
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: of players have screwed us in the past, and I

819
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: don't want to get screwed. I think that he's the

820
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 1: right upside play. So sure, you know, in best ball,

821
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,240
Speaker 1: if you want to throw that dart, be my guest.

822
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: But I do think there's a lot of red flags

823
00:38:59,200 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: of his profile.

824
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Speaker 3: And speaking of volatile, let's get onto today's main event.

825
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Speaker 2: It's the late round main event, all right.

826
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Speaker 3: We've got favorite twenty twenty six draft comps and this

827
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Speaker 3: is for the rookie running backs. JJ, do you want

828
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 3: to give us just a just a brief overview of this?

829
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, So all I'm gonna do this is just for fun, really, like,

830
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: this is just for fun comps. Comps in general, in

831
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: my opinion, get thrown out too loosely oftentimes, Like I

832
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: could rant about player comps for days, but like you know,

833
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: a lot of times people are skewing towards like successful

834
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 1: players in the NFL. So they see some of the

835
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: comps in the Prospect Guide and they're like, well, I thought,

836
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: Jordan Tyson, why Jordan Tyson one of his three comps

837
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: is Corey Davis. Corey Davis sucked, and Jordan Tyson's a

838
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: legendary performer. Why are things looking the way they're looking.

839
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: They're they're looking the way they're looking, Because it's just

840
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: trying to be realistic, like we you're not going to

841
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: only get hits out of unless you're Jeremiah Love. He

842
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: has basically like three really good comps overall, but you know,

843
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: like generally speaking, you're gonna have bad comps for players.

844
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 2: It's just the way that it is.

845
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 1: So what I did though for this and the way

846
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: that my comps are generated, So people know, it's like

847
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 1: a distance formula. So it's the equivalent of like, okay,

848
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: this guy, and like certain certain factors are weighed a

849
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: little bit more so think about height and weight. Those

850
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: are weighed fairly heavily, but a player could have a

851
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: little bit different of a weight, let's say, or a

852
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: height let's say, if the production metrics really line up

853
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: and are really really tight. So what it's doing is

854
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: is calculating the distance from you know, with adjusted yards

855
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: per team player running back or a reception share, and

856
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 1: it's saying, Okay, this is the closest comp based on

857
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: the things that you're valuing height and weight and some

858
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: of this stuff, and some of the production metrics, but

859
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: like how you're valuing them from a hierarchy standpoint, and

860
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: it's saying, this is the closest comp based on all

861
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: of those things.

862
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 2: So when you see.

863
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: Certain heights and weights that aren't total, although I think

864
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: the ones Ontoday Show are all pretty on point, but

865
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: you know, I think like like Ezekiel Elliott was a

866
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: comp for Jeremiah Love, for instance, and he was like

867
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: twelve or thirteen pounds heavier at the combine, but their

868
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: production metrics were really really similar, which is why that

869
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: was one of his comps. But I have another comp

870
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: for Jeremiah Love on today's show. So with all that

871
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: being said, these are all analytical comps. They're all in

872
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,919
Speaker 1: the model right sorry, in the Prospect Guide, and they're

873
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: from and they stem from the ZAP model.

874
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 2: Jonah Coleman, who is not getting much.

875
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: Hype right now because he's done no testing and we

876
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: just don't know how fast he is. Jonah cole I

877
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: think he just had his pro day, but I don't

878
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: think that he ran. Jonah Coleman right now is a

879
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: fringe top one hundred pick in the NFL draft. I

880
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: think if he goes down like I love his production profile,

881
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: it's actually pretty good. If he goes on day two,

882
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: he could be my RB two in this class realistically.

883
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 2: But he's small.

884
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: You know, you can see right here he's he's you

885
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: have Doug Doug Martin again, rest in peace, Doug Martin.

886
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: But Muscle Hampster was five nine to twenty three when

887
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 1: he was playing and came out. Jonah Coleman is five

888
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 1: eight two twenty so very similar. Size is these shorter, stouter, strong,

889
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: wrecking balls if you will, of running backs reception share

890
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: for Jonah Coleman thirteen point two percent in his best season.

891
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: That's adjusted reception share. Doug Martin nine point four percent

892
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: is not quite as high. And then adjusted yards per

893
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: team play one point sixty eight versus one point seven three.

894
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 1: Martin is likely more athletic, like I said, and Martin

895
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: was more prolific on the ground, which is why you

896
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: see the adjusted yards per team play as being fairly comparable,

897
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: but the reception share best season reception share not as comparable.

898
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: So those are kind of the call out metrics that

899
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 1: the model was seeing when making that comp. It's very

900
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: hard for a player who's five foot eight, two hundred

901
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: and twenty pounds to have very clear comps because there's

902
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 1: not many players since twenty eleven that have come out

903
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: at that size. So I actually thought that the Doug

904
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: Martin comp was fairly on point all things considered.

905
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw where Jonah Coleman obviously, you know he

906
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 3: said a U dub guy, Washington guy, but he made

907
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 3: a visit yesterday to the Seahawks.

908
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, fun, Jonah.

909
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 1: Coleman and Seattle would be easily the RB two because

910
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: that would mean that they probably spend a day two

911
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,919
Speaker 1: pick and there's an opening.

912
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 3: There and they need running back right now for sure.

913
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 3: All right, let's get on to the next one. This

914
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 3: guy has had some a little bit of hype this

915
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 3: this year.

916
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 4: Mike Washington.

917
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I mentioned this one on perspectives last week.

918
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: I think that Washington looks a lot like Latavius Murray analytically. Again,

919
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 1: this is not a run style thing, because Latavius Murray

920
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: had a pretty uh glare. I don't know if you

921
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: guys remember watching him, but like a very glaring, like

922
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: upright style of running. And I don't know if Mike

923
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: Washington is necessarily that from a stylistic perspective. But Washington's

924
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: coming out of an age age is another factor. I mean,

925
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: there's other factors. I'm just highlighting the major ones for

926
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: these comps. But Mike Washington, twenty two point eighty is

927
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: a little bit older, you know, not super old for

928
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: what we see these days. Latavius Murray when he came out,

929
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: he was older, twenty three point three, six one and

930
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: six two. They're both two hundred and twenty three pounds.

931
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: They both had really good speed scores. Reception share was

932
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: only one to one and a half percent off from

933
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 1: one another. Adjusted yards per team play, Mike Washington was

934
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: a little bit better, but you know, fairly comparable. And

935
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: then both of them had kind of below average adjusted

936
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,959
Speaker 1: yards per team pass atten numbers. So again, not stylistic

937
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: comps here between Mike Washington Latavius Murray. But I do

938
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: think that the comp itself makes sense. And again people

939
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: hear that and they're like, oh, Mike Washington sucks.

940
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:44,240
Speaker 2: Number one.

941
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: If you get a Latavious Murray outcome, that's not a

942
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: bad NFL career at all for a player that is

943
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 1: a fringe day two pick right now. And the only

944
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: reason why Mike Washington's a fringe day two pick is

945
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 1: because of what he did at the combine, which fine, whatever,

946
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: but you have to keep that in mind. It's not

947
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 1: like he has this like flawless production profile. And so

948
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,720
Speaker 1: if he is Latavia's Murray, that's not a bad, bad,

949
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: like late second rookie pick. I mean, Latavius Murray had

950
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: his moments in the NFL.

951
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, somewhat as a Titans fan, I saw that one

952
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 3: of those moments towards the end of his career. Yeah,

953
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 3: all right, let's get on to the the next one.

954
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 4: Made me a little bit sad as a Kendre Miller truther.

955
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 2: Are you Kendry Miller Truther?

956
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had a lot of them last year, even I've.

957
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 2: Never been a big Kendrey Miller.

958
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sorry.

959
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 2: I think that he was fine last year.

960
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 1: The one thing that kept me going with Kendrey Miller

961
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: was that he was very young entering the league, like

962
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: a very young prospect. And that's a key difference between

963
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: k Tron Allen and Kendrey Miller, because Kateron Allen is

964
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 1: not a young prospect and so but aside from that,

965
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 1: you know, Kendrey Miller didn't show receiving chops in college

966
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: seven point two percent best season reception share and his

967
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: adjusted yards per team pass attempt was point five to one,

968
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: very similar to Kateron Allen. But they're both five eleven

969
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: two sixteen, two fifteen similarly like mediocre receiving profiles. But

970
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: then their adjusted yards for team play is actually not

971
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: that bad, and it's not that bad because they were

972
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: good on the ground.

973
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 2: K Tron Allen was really good on the ground.

974
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he was the leading Penn State rusher of

975
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: all time by the end that by the end of

976
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: his collegiate career. Now obviously like longevity and just playing

977
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 1: there a lot and for a while, like we'll play

978
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 1: into that. But he's good on the ground, not much

979
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: of a pass catcher. That's what we got from Kendre Miller,

980
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: and that's what I think we're gonna see with with

981
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: k Tron Allen in the NFL.

982
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 3: Okay, the the next one is a a little bit

983
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 3: of smaller running back. You get Desmond Reid with the

984
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 3: Tree Cohen comparison.

985
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta throw my pit guy in there.

986
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: You know, there's no wide receivers from Pitt that are

987
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: that went to the combine that I that I wrote up.

988
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: But but des Reid Man, he's a fun player. And

989
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: that's that's how we described the small guys, right, the

990
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: small their their.

991
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:57,720
Speaker 4: Gagedy or fun.

992
00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

993
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I always there's always some fun running back in

994
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: every class that I latch onto. This one would be

995
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: des Reed, who actually has like an incredible production profile

996
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: from like a receiving standpoint. Now, again, if you go

997
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: back to what I said about Joonah Coleman, you get

998
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: a weird body type that you don't see very frequently.

999
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 1: So it's you're you're limiting the amount of possible comps, right,

1000
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 1: But with Tarik Cohen they're both five six.

1001
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 2: Cohen was five pounds heavier.

1002
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: Reception share was twenty point four percent for Reed nineteen

1003
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: point four percent for Cohen. Cohen had worse adjusted yards

1004
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 1: per team pass attempts and adjusted total yards per team

1005
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: play numbers because he played it a worse program, a

1006
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: smaller program. I should say worse, just because then Pitt

1007
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: can actually look good for ones. But you know, des

1008
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: Reed had better marks across the board in the model

1009
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 1: than Tarik Cohen did. I think that this could easily

1010
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: be more of like a Douce Bond situation that we

1011
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 1: saw recently, where ultra productive in college, but it just

1012
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 1: doesn't translate to the NFL as the size. You know,

1013
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: he's one hundred and seventy four pounds and a player

1014
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 1: like this. I think that like a Tarik Cohen type

1015
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 1: worked a lot better when running back target chairs were

1016
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: higher in like that twenty sixteen twenty seventeen ish range,

1017
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: like when teams were really peppering the running back out

1018
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: of the backfield, whereas now that doesn't happen as frequently.

1019
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:19,919
Speaker 1: We're going after tight ends a lot more and such

1020
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: with with this heavier personnel.

1021
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 2: It doesn't work as well with these smaller backs.

1022
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: So I do think Reid is going to be more landing,

1023
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: spot dependent, creative, offensive, mind dependent. He's not going to

1024
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: be a high volume player. But I do think the

1025
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: comp makes sense. From Reed to tari Con.

1026
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,760
Speaker 3: Okay, let's get to a you mentioned a fun player.

1027
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 3: Let's get to a really fun player, the most fun player.

1028
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 4: Some might say Jeremiah Love.

1029
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Jeremiah Love.

1030
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,760
Speaker 1: I have Vijon Robinson, who I think is the closer

1031
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 1: comp or closest within the database to Love. Robinson was

1032
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: an inch shorter, three pounds heavier, so he had a

1033
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: little bit more bulk, a little bit better share, a

1034
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,919
Speaker 1: little bit better adjusted yards per team play, a little

1035
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: bit better adjusted yards per team pass attempt. But they

1036
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: were all in the vicinity of one another like that.

1037
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: This is exactly why B Jhon Robinson. I've said this

1038
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: on shows before. I don't think Jeremiah Love is as

1039
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: good of a prospect as like a Bjon Robinson and

1040
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 1: Jamior Gibbs and Ashton Genty. I just don't think he's

1041
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: there analytically. Now, there are some reasons for it. But

1042
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: you could make the same argument to a degree with

1043
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 1: b Jhon Robinson and the competition that he played, with

1044
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: the reasons being Jeneian Price for Jeremiah Love. Now, Price

1045
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: is the better prospect from a draft capital standpoint, we're assuming.

1046
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 2: Than Roshan Johnson.

1047
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: But that's another reason why this comp makes sense, right,

1048
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: because they were playing with an NFL caliber running.

1049
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 2: Back in their backfield in college.

1050
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: So look, I think that you're splitting hairs and you're

1051
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,399
Speaker 1: making an argument that doesn't need to be made because

1052
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: it's irrelevant by saying you know is Jeremiah By asking

1053
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 1: is Jeremiah Love better than Bjhon Robinson, Jamier Gibbs, Ashton Genty,

1054
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: these guys that have come out in recent years, my

1055
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: answer to that is no, definitively. I don't think analytically

1056
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 1: he has as good of a profile, but he's still

1057
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: an elite player. I wrote all about this in the

1058
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 1: Prospect Guide because his draft capital just keeps rising. He's

1059
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 1: in the legendary performer category and he's going to be

1060
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:19,240
Speaker 1: more than likely a legendary performer post draft. And players

1061
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: in that bucket we don't see them very often at

1062
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 1: running back, but they give us really really good fantasy production,

1063
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: like even Ashton Gent who also lands in that bucket.

1064
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: You can say what you want about him disappointing last year,

1065
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: I wouldn't disagree. He was still fantasy relevant, Like he

1066
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 1: was still like he still had like what fourteen and

1067
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,360
Speaker 1: a half PPR points per game, and things are trending

1068
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,359
Speaker 1: in the right direction I think for him. From a

1069
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 1: coaching standpoint, in a situation standpoint, you know, I do

1070
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: think that anytime a player like Love is projected to

1071
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: go high in the draft, you're thinking, oh, he's going

1072
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: to go to a bad team, and so there are

1073
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 1: some spots that are probably better than others.

1074
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 2: But in the end, guys, if.

1075
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: You're a top sixteen running back, and I talked about

1076
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 1: this on the Draft Capital episode last week, if you're

1077
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 1: a tier I guess yeah last week. But if you're

1078
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: a top sixteen running back by Draft Capital, the odds

1079
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: of you just flaming out are so so slim in

1080
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: fantasy that you just gotta you gotta go for it,

1081
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: like Jeremiah Love should.

1082
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:13,760
Speaker 2: Be a stud in fantasy football.

1083
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, And this is what I was saying for the Titans,

1084
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 3: especially compared to the other running backs. Having a Bijon

1085
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 3: esque player on the Titans would at least be fun

1086
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Speaker 3: for the other thing.

1087
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Speaker 1: Is is that I think I think the one thing

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00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: that we have to I agree, like if you just

1089
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 1: had Bjon Robinson Shore. I've said this for years on

1090
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 1: in like the discord and stuff, like, I think Bjon

1091
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: Robinson is one of the greatest running backs I've ever

1092
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: watched period, Like I think he is. His contact balance

1093
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: is unreal, like I've never seen anything like that, and

1094
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: he's a great receiver, and I you know, he's hit

1095
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: a high end outcome even for where he was drafted,

1096
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: which was very high, you know.

1097
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 2: And so I do think that like.

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00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: The idea of that is definitely and it's definitely safer

1099
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: to get a guy like Jeremiah Love than some other

1100
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: players you might go after.

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00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 2: I'm not going to say the expected value is greater, but.

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00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: It's safer from a player projection standpoint to just get

1103
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Love. And if you want to put butts in

1104
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: the seats, that's definitely a way to.

1105
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 2: Go as well.

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00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, like like Love is a very

1107
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 1: very good prospect. I think that's the takeaway that people

1108
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: should have here.

1109
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, again especially in comparison and supposedly going to be

1110
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 3: like a top five pick. I think he's actually favored

1111
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:39,439
Speaker 3: now on DraftKings to be the number four overall pick,

1112
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 3: like that's his Yeah, like he's actually a favorite to go,

1113
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 3: which which.

1114
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: That's you know, that's where we had like Leonard Fournette

1115
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: as probably I mean obviously Trent Richardson, but like Leonard

1116
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: Fournette as the weaker one of the last like five

1117
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: to seven years or ten years, you know, in terms

1118
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 1: of like fantasy production and stuff, which is still not

1119
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: a terrible outcome. He still was fairly good fantasy asset,

1120
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:04,320
Speaker 1: really good fantasy asset.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's wrap up this show again. Make sure

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00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 3: to subscribe, like comment, especially on YouTube, and just want

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00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 3: to highlight a few comments. Bes perfect, Good morning, guys.

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Speaker 3: Cool seeing you guys on the NFL Network ticker.

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Speaker 2: It is always cool.

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00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, That's That's something that doesn't get old is when people,

1128
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: you know, point that out.

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00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:37,479
Speaker 2: It's fun.

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Speaker 3: Our buddy Tyler says, shout out to the best prospect

1131
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:41,839
Speaker 3: guy every year.

1132
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 4: At the industry bar. None Styler.

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00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 3: Tyler said that not us, and then Petrip we were

1134
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 3: talking about Corey Davis and he said Corey Davis would

1135
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 3: have got me fired as a GM.

1136
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Speaker 1: But I think that this is another like again, smaller

1137
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 1: school guy where the adjustments and stuff and I'm trying

1138
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: to make in the in the Zap model. It still

1139
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 1: really likes Corey Davis. Don't getting wrong. Uh, But like

1140
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: you know, I think we should be weary always after

1141
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: I said that stuff about Ted Hurst. But still we

1142
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: should be weary if a guy is coming from a

1143
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:12,240
Speaker 1: smaller program.

1144
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1145
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 3: Uh, And then we were talking about prospects. He might

1146
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,959
Speaker 3: be a small guy, but he has a big heart.

1147
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 4: Time.

1148
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what.

1149
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: When when college football came back last year for for

1150
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: you know the game, yeah, I played his pitt. Actually

1151
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: I started out as as the Bowling Green head coach. Okay,

1152
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: I had no idea who Harold Fannon was at that time.

1153
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 4: And you know who the Bowling Green head coach is?

1154
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 4: What Eddie George?

1155
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: Yeah but not he wasn't two years ago though, Okay, gotcha,

1156
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 1: I don't think so TSU's two years ago. But but

1157
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: so so I was Bowling Green's head coach and I'm like, man,

1158
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 1: this tight end is like out of control, Like he's

1159
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: so good and it was Harold Fannon little that I know.

1160
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 2: I went, I'm I know his mom now.

1161
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: But then I transferred to Pitt because they offered me,

1162
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna say no to a job of

1163
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: my alma monor, you know. And so I went to

1164
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 1: Pitt and des Reid won the Heisman because he was

1165
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 1: just on those types of players.

1166
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 2: That type of player is so good in video games,

1167
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 2: so good.

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00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: The shifty, you know, smaller running backs like they're so

1169
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,000
Speaker 1: good in video games. And maybe that's where my bias

1170
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 1: comes in, where I always like fall in love with

1171
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: these random, like round four rookie pick type running backs

1172
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 1: that are smaller and have good receiving profiles.

1173
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 2: That's that's Des Reid.

1174
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1175
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 3: There was a mptshue running back who had like his

1176
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 3: own Heisman campaign, Dwan Hicks. And this was like way

1177
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 3: back when, you know, I mean, I'm I'm NK status.

1178
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 4: Right now, but on n c A he was amazing.

1179
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he did win the Heisman for me when

1180
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 3: I when I played as him all right again, Prospect

1181
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 3: guy lateround dot com our Patreon, you can join in

1182
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 3: all the chats, the discussions, and you know what I'm

1183
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 3: gonna do JJ for today for our Patreon members. I'm

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00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 3: gonna create an NTAA bracket for us. Oh, we can

1185
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Speaker 3: have just so we can have some fun. It's all

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Speaker 3: about the community there, so look out for that.

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Speaker 4: Any final thoughts, JJ.

1188
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 2: No, I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: You know next week, the next couple weeks, we'll be

1190
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 1: doing more comps. It's you know, this time of year,

1191
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: it's a little bit slower and trying to give all

1192
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: my analysis on the shows that I'm doing. I'll have

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00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 1: a fun one early next week that I think you

1194
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: guys will enjoy. But for this particular show, we're just

1195
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: looking at comps and talking prospects, is really what it

1196
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: comes down to.

1197
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 3: And again make sure that you are subscribed to the

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Speaker 3: Late Round newsletter. Have some bangers coming out in the

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Speaker 3: senior analyst Brandon Cadula.

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Speaker 4: So on behalf of JJ. I'm Dave bed.

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Speaker 3: We'll see you next time here on the Late Round

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Speaker 3: Fantasy Football show.

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Speaker 4: Peace