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Speaker 1: what to do. I know it's a it's a helpless

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00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,119
Speaker 1: kind of feeling. I think it's like, so anytime I'm alive, like,

430
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 1: this is what I've had to just think about. Is

431
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: I don't have the answer. But there's been multiple times

432
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,439
Speaker 1: in my wife I've felt that way, right, And I

433
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 1: think sometimes right now it can feel really overwhelming because

434
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 1: we're getting hit with a lot of different stuff. And

435
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 1: I said this to you earlier, I don't really think

436
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,199
Speaker 1: that that's going to change anytime soon, Like if you

437
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Speaker 1: do any sort of work with astrology or energy or anything.

438
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 1: Our world is in a major shift right now. And

439
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 1: all the healers that I work with have been saying

440
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,160
Speaker 1: this for a couple of years now, before since before

441
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,959
Speaker 1: the pandemic and it's just in a reset. So unfortunately

442
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: you kind of got a break down before you can rebuild.

443
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: And we're there, So I think if we can kind

444
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,640
Speaker 1: of settle into that mentality. But anytime in my life

445
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 1: where I have just felt this like helpless feeling, the

446
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: answer isn't to try to figure out the big picture.

447
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: The answer is in the next right step, you know,

448
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: And it's just like showing up for the next thing.

449
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 1: And so that's been kind of the only way I've

450
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 1: gotten through these two weeks is just like, Okay, for

451
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 1: today or for this moment or for this hour, Like

452
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,399
Speaker 1: what's the next right thing for me to do? Is

453
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: it to call a senator? Is it to take a

454
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: meeting with a senator like you did? Is it to

455
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 1: go to a march? Is it to show up and

456
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 1: support my friends who's crumbling? Like whatever? It is just

457
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: making that next right step until we get to bigger solutions.

458
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 1: And I think if we all start to do that,

459
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 1: maybe we would see some progress. And I also think

460
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: it's probably reality that like the ebbs and flows of

461
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 1: the feelings and the crashes and the like meltdowns and

462
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 1: whatever are just also going to happen, and they've all

463
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: seemed to happen at different times, Like in our friend

464
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: groups specifically, it's like one person crashes, we kind of

465
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: help that person, and the next person crashes, and you

466
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 1: just kind of go through the waves of that, and

467
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 1: so just showing up for your people and just knowing

468
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: that like everyone's going through it, you know, at least here,

469
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: That's how I feel. I don't know how it feels

470
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: on a bigger scale, but there seems like there're shit

471
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: happening everwhere everywhere. Yeah, well, I think, you know, it's

472
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,439
Speaker 1: also just important to say like we can't stop, you know,

473
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: Like I know, for right now, it feels like everyone's

474
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,439
Speaker 1: talking about this still because we're in Nashville. We're in

475
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Speaker 1: the heart of it, and I don't know that that's

476
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Speaker 1: the case, you know. I think most I've moved on

477
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 1: with their lives, and I think it's just really for

478
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: sure actually feel in Nashville. Yeah, it's just really important

479
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: to like, we can't give up. The problem's not going away.

480
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: We have to continue to search for whatever the solution

481
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: is and be part of that solution, you know. Yeah,

482
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,479
Speaker 1: And so we obviously are sitting here kind of like, uh,

483
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: what do we do every town is probably the best

484
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,359
Speaker 1: place I would go recommend to people if you want to,

485
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: or just maybe it's just please do. I should say that,

486
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: please do, try to stay informed and take any steps

487
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 1: that you can take. You can follow them on Instagram.

488
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 1: They send updates also, like you can subscribe to their

489
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 1: phone texting updates, and they send updates on what's happening

490
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 1: in Congress, just like in what bills are being passed,

491
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 1: what you can go vote on, what senators to call

492
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,959
Speaker 1: there's They always are constantly updating you and that's a

493
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: really good way to stay informed. Also to donate to them,

494
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: who the people who are working so frivolously to really

495
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 1: try to find some change. I think we can all

496
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: agree that we want our kids to be safe, so

497
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 1: hopefully that could be the thing. And I think like

498
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: this month, I told you earlier, I was not really

499
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 1: in the headspace that I wanted to pick a word yet.

500
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: But what keeps coming back to me is like, I'm

501
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: not a political person, you're not a like we're just

502
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: humans navigating this too. What I do feel like I

503
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: can bring to this world is this, you know, like

504
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: I know how to feel feelings. We talked about this

505
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: a lot, and I think you're a very compassionate person too,

506
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: And I think just honesty and truth and authenticity, and

507
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: so if we can bring that to you guys and

508
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: just kind of stay in touch with what we're doing

509
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: to get through a really interesting time in our history.

510
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: I really do think this is like a very life changing,

511
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: world changing time, and I don't think anything in our

512
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: country is going to be the same when we get

513
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: through this, hopefully for the best, and I actually feel

514
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 1: that it will be. But as we navigate through all

515
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: of this, like just staying connected to each other and

516
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: kind of learning different tools to stay grounded or to

517
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: take the next right step, or to be with each

518
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: other through these hard times. I think this is a

519
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: really important time to stay close to your people. Yeah,

520
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: and if you don't have people to find some or

521
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 1: reach out, you know, you can always reach out to

522
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: us and talk with us, or you know, reach out

523
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: on Instagram, whatever it is you need to do. But

524
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: like just not isolating. I just feel like this is

525
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Speaker 1: really a time to offer people grace, compassion and love.

526
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: If not, even if you don't agree, like you're not

527
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: going to get through to anybody fighting them. No, I'm

528
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: so over the fighting. Yeah, so over it. I also

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Speaker 1: wanted to mention another organization called Brady United against Gun Violence. Okay,

530
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: and it was started by Ronald Reagan's press secretary who

531
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: was shot during an assassination attempt on Reagan and he

532
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: survived the guns that he has survived initially but later

533
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: died of his gunshot wounds. And they're a pretty amazing organization.

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00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: It's just Brady United dot org. I just want to

535
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Speaker 1: read a few stats just to put it into perspective.

536
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: Ninety seven This is from their website. Ninety seven percent

537
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: of Americans wanted expanded back ground checks. Americans kill each

538
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: other with guns twenty five times the rate of other

539
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: high income countries. Every sixteen hours, a woman is shot

540
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: dead by her current or former partner. Access to a

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Speaker 1: gun in a home increases the risk of death by

542
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: suicide by three hundred percent one hundred and fifty five

543
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Speaker 1: percent more people are shot in instances where assault weapons

544
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Speaker 1: or high capacity magazines are used, and gun violence is

545
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: estimated to cost the American economy at least two hundred

546
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Speaker 1: and twenty nine billion dollars every year. That way hit

547
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: you in the pocketbook. Yeah, so that's we're not talking

548
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: about that? Why are we not talking about that? Yeah,

549
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: it's a lot of taxpayer money. Yeah, what what I

550
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: don't understand really like what would the money be going to, um,

551
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: probably fortifying places, hiring srs, you know, insurance companies having

552
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,239
Speaker 1: to pay people out for losing their children or you know.

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00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: I wonder if there's It doesn't look like you can

554
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: just it's just a graphic so you can't click on

555
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: it for more information. But um, it's an incredibly uh there.

556
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: This is a legit organization too. Um so it's uh

557
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: Brady United dot org. Okay, I'll put the links to

558
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: all this stuff obviously in the description of this podcast. Um. Yeah,

559
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: do you have anything else you want to offer the

560
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 1: people today? I mean, I'm just sending love to anybody

561
00:30:53,280 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: who's hurting you know, Yeah, me too, like that hugs.

562
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: You say you are acting casual about this. Yeah, we're

563
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: not acting casual today. No. No. And I think it's

564
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: just it's back to that thing if it's okay to

565
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: not be okay. So you know, I think a lot

566
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: of people are feeling that right now, and I feel

567
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: the need to say that, Like if stuff keeps coming

568
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: up like it's it's hard, and that's okay, Like it's

569
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: okay not to be okay, and it's okay to ask

570
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: for help and it's okay to reach out. And also,

571
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: like one thing I've really settled into in my own

572
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: life that I don't know if this will help you guys,

573
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: but when I'm feeling really down, like it's been something

574
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: that my parents have taught me for a long time,

575
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: and then I had a mentor who says this and

576
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: they're like, when's the last time you went and did service?

577
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: Because every time I feel down, my instinct, if I'm

578
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: being fully honest, is to get in my bed, under

579
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: my covers and just hide, like I just feel overwhelmed

580
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: or whatever, and I just don't want to do anything.

581
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: But the thing about that is it really does keep

582
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: me in this place of like feeling the overwhelm because

583
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: I'm not able to do anything to get through it.

584
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: But I'm also it just feels like doomsday. And so

585
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: what really does help me is doing service of any kind,

586
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: and whether that's even just like doing some silly thing

587
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: like at the grocery store smiling at someone, or you know,

588
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: like something really simple, helping someone that is physically you know,

589
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: not able to load their car with groceries or something

590
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: like that. And I just feel like that helps me

591
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: get out of myself for a second, and then maybe

592
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: it brightened someone else's day to go brighten someone else's day,

593
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: And I just think it goes a little further than

594
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: we ever think, and what we're missing so much of it.

595
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: We're so eager to like prove our points to everyone,

596
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: and we're just so mad. Everyone feels so mad, And

597
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: I just feel like taking that pause and saying, like,

598
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna offer some love today, even if it's

599
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: to one person. And if we all did that, could

600
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: you imagine the different that that would make. So I

601
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: don't know, even if you don't want to help other people,

602
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: like do it to help yourself for right now and

603
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: then see what happens. But yeah, I just think that

604
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: we've really gotten off track with what's important, and I

605
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: know I had for many years, and it takes sometimes

606
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: the big crash for it to kind of like recenter you.

607
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: But and I still can do it in our day

608
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: to day, but like figure out what's really important to

609
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: you and like what you really value in this life

610
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: and send some positive energy that way. Yeah, yeah, and

611
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: you know, if you can go do something nice for somebody,

612
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: you know, maybe it will distract you from all the

613
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: bullshit that's going on in the world. Well it does.

614
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: I mean I told you. I'm like sitting here like

615
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: in between. We had a really good conversation this morning

616
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: about Okay, we just got to get honest with our listeners,

617
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: like sometimes we just can't show up in certain ways,

618
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: and we just want to talk to y'all like the

619
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: normal humans that we are. And then I get on

620
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: fucking Twitter and it's all like I don't know why

621
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: I did this, but it's so hard to research and

622
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: be informed without like just letting everything's come flooding in.

623
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: It's like Travis Trips boycotting and as a bush now

624
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: or something because they had some trans spokesperson. I'm just

625
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: like so fucking tired of all these narratives, like shut up,

626
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. Is it bothering you? Really? Like, come on,

627
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: Travis trip Like the fuck man, I just I'm like,

628
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: just why, it just doesn't matter, Like you through you

629
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: let everyone else do them, and like let's just try

630
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 1: to be a little more accepting, a little more generous.

631
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: You don't have to fucking agree, but like, come the

632
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 1: fuck on, I don't know, I'm just over it. But anyway,

633
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: protect your hearts, protect your heads, protect your energy, and um,

634
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna be doing the same and we'll come back

635
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: this month with some more tips for you guys, with

636
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: actual of like helping stay grounded. And I think a

637
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 1: big one right now for me is like feeling this

638
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: block of what to talk about. And you said that too,

639
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: and just like I don't know what to do, so

640
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 1: maybe opening ourselves up a little bit more and finding

641
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: new ways to use our voices productively steps Anyway, you

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Speaker 1: Love you guys, Bye bye,