WEBVTT - Fuel The Front Lines

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the NFL Legends Podcast, an NFL podcast for

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<v Speaker 1>the players, by the players. Here is your host, four

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<v Speaker 1>teen year NFL veteran and Hall of Famer Aenius Williams. Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the NFL Legends Podcast. I am a Nius Williams.

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<v Speaker 1>We're hosting our podcast series remotely during this COVID nineteen crisis,

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<v Speaker 1>which has touched us all in some way. Today we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk with a legend who is doing his

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<v Speaker 1>part to make an impact on his community during this

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<v Speaker 1>challenging time with us today. Is one of the people

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<v Speaker 1>who actually helped inspire this podcast series, so I'm most

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<v Speaker 1>grateful to him, the Great Receiver Brandon Marshall. Brandon and

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<v Speaker 1>his wife Mishi recently created a program called Few the

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<v Speaker 1>front Lines, which provides much needed recovery, space, tools, and

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<v Speaker 1>nutrition to healthcare workers doing this COVID nineteen pandemic. Welcome Brandon.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much, and you're so nice. You're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about a legend. Oh my goodness. I mean you're the

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<v Speaker 1>ultimate legend, not only on the field but off the field.

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<v Speaker 1>Love what you're doing in the community and and with

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<v Speaker 1>people around the world. So thanks for having us and

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<v Speaker 1>and thank you for paving a way for men like myself,

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<v Speaker 1>like Shawn, what we're supposed to be like. This is

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, you you set the example. This is

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<v Speaker 1>what the NFL player looks like. This is what the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL family looks like. You know. So coming in and

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<v Speaker 1>just catching balls and and taking all the good from

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL not giving back. Uh, it's not the way

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<v Speaker 1>to do it. And uh, I really appreciate you. So

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<v Speaker 1>what we're doing with few of the front lines, um,

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<v Speaker 1>really is an extension of not only you, but all

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<v Speaker 1>of our greats in the NFL. Don't the work that

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<v Speaker 1>you guys have done. So you're trying to give me

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<v Speaker 1>the cry before we even get to talk you here, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because legs right, especially you, you know you're known to

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<v Speaker 1>get emotional. But thank you for those kind words. But

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<v Speaker 1>really we're living, probably doing one of the most challenging

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<v Speaker 1>times of the central let alone our generation. So before

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<v Speaker 1>we start, this is the first time we've had you

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<v Speaker 1>on and it was your idea to Tracy Pearlman about

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<v Speaker 1>recreating the experience of guys talking openly about all topics

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<v Speaker 1>in the hot tub cold tub that helped lead us

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<v Speaker 1>to create this podcast. So thank you for doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>And Brandon, real quick speak, Why the I have a

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<v Speaker 1>program I do with men I call the locker room

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<v Speaker 1>and now the hot tub. Why don't you initially tell

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<v Speaker 1>whoever's listening, why the that hot tub locker room experience

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<v Speaker 1>is so important? Well, let's go back a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in York plan for the Jets and um

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<v Speaker 1>calling calling Kaepernick hit right, and this was a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, we go through media training, we have

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<v Speaker 1>people coming out, come out every single year to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to teach us how to present in front of the world,

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<v Speaker 1>in front of our beat reporters and writers, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this calling Kaepernick hick thing hits And we're

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<v Speaker 1>all in the locker room as players, like, Okay, what

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<v Speaker 1>is our message? What how do we feel about it?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? And in the New York Jets locker room,

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<v Speaker 1>we were trying to collectively come together and be on

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<v Speaker 1>the same page because we didn't want a distraction. But

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<v Speaker 1>we understood how big the topic was and how important

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<v Speaker 1>the moment was. So I look up, you know, after

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<v Speaker 1>a day or two of us, you know, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out like how we need to keep our team

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<v Speaker 1>together and respect people's you know, point of view. I

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<v Speaker 1>got myself, I got Nick main Goal, had Eric Decker. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we had Ryan Fitzpatrick, we had Matt Forte. We may

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<v Speaker 1>have had you. No, we didn't have British the brickishaw

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<v Speaker 1>Ferguson here retired. We had these legends sitting in a

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<v Speaker 1>hot tub before practice talking about this major moment in

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<v Speaker 1>sports and in history. Uh. And I'm like, Wow, you

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<v Speaker 1>have Nick Mango from somewhere in the country. You have

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Decker from Minnesota, myself from the city, inner City,

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<v Speaker 1>who I've seen some of the things that Kaepernick was

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<v Speaker 1>standing up for. You have Running Fitzpatrick, this kid from Harvard.

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<v Speaker 1>So we all have these different point of views. But

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<v Speaker 1>we were able to have a respectful conversation where we

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<v Speaker 1>heard each other out. And I remember back then that

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<v Speaker 1>was the biggest thing was we weren't listening to each other.

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<v Speaker 1>We were just yelling, screaming at each other, or we

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<v Speaker 1>were trying to be right. And we felt like to

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<v Speaker 1>get the get the men sitch out there and to

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<v Speaker 1>actually be proactive and in this whole moment be beneficial

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<v Speaker 1>for a country, for a world. We had to have

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<v Speaker 1>the right conversations and people had to listen. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>the whole That was the whole thing about the hot tub.

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<v Speaker 1>We're having a real conversation. You've got you know, guys

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<v Speaker 1>from different parts of the country coming together and we

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<v Speaker 1>were listening. So to me, that's the hot tub and

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<v Speaker 1>that's the locker room. That's the amazing thing about the

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<v Speaker 1>locker room. I whatever, wherever I come from in my

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<v Speaker 1>belief like, that's one thing. But when we come in

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<v Speaker 1>that locker room, we respect each other and we have

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<v Speaker 1>one mission. We have one mission that's to go win.

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<v Speaker 1>We have one mission that's to be you know, that

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<v Speaker 1>the the ultimate jet, that ultimate ram, that ultimate stiller.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So we put those things to the side and

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<v Speaker 1>we collectively come together. And what happens, it's so magical

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<v Speaker 1>in the locker room is when we actually come together,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we start understanding the other side, things that

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<v Speaker 1>we've never seen before, things that we never even thought of,

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<v Speaker 1>because we respect the man or the woman alongside of

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<v Speaker 1>us through sport. You know, Brandon, all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>you got me thinking. Man. Last week I was on

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<v Speaker 1>the call with the White House where it was a

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<v Speaker 1>conversation about the disproportional Oh, Yeah, just just just just

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<v Speaker 1>throw that out there. Last week I was on with

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<v Speaker 1>the White House, like, let me tell you what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying that it was really about the disproportional impact that's

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<v Speaker 1>happening in many of our African American munity that's relates

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<v Speaker 1>to the virus. But my point in making that so sling,

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<v Speaker 1>like you're telling me all we gotta do is get

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrats and the Republicans in the HOTA. That's that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Just get him on your podcasts and you're straight come out.

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<v Speaker 1>I promise you. You You know. Yes, it's amazing. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that sports, particularly football, it brings back the

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<v Speaker 1>bigger crowds as relates to attendance and the diversity of

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<v Speaker 1>social economically ethnicities all come together and then as a

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<v Speaker 1>team just as you said, from all these different backgrounds.

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<v Speaker 1>But to be able to learn how to listen is

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<v Speaker 1>extremely important, particularly needed now and what we're facing in

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<v Speaker 1>our country. But let's talk about few the front lines.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me a description of what do you do what

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<v Speaker 1>few the front lines? Two things, and these are things

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<v Speaker 1>that you have done your entire Careerities are things that

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<v Speaker 1>you coach other athletes. All these are things that Um,

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<v Speaker 1>we do before and after practice, we recover on one

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<v Speaker 1>end of the spectrum. Um, we're literally putting recovery rooms

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<v Speaker 1>in hospitals. Were in over eighty hospitals, majority in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, but globally, we're in the UK, we're deployed

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<v Speaker 1>in Germany, we're deployed in Canada, and we're literally putting

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<v Speaker 1>recovery rooms in hospitals. What does that look like? Massage

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<v Speaker 1>guns with their a gun, super simple, but making sure

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<v Speaker 1>that the muscles and the bodies, all those eggs from

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<v Speaker 1>standing on their feet for sixteen sometimes eighteen hours in

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<v Speaker 1>a day, that they're able to treat themselves or treat

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<v Speaker 1>each other. So we have these that's a mate. We

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<v Speaker 1>have amazing content and and and and in pictures of

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<v Speaker 1>doctors actually massaging each other with these massage guns. Still

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<v Speaker 1>practicing social distance is amazing. Uh. And the other thing

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<v Speaker 1>is the recovery pumps. So you guys didn't have this

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<v Speaker 1>back in the day, but they came out with all

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<v Speaker 1>these type of technology that helped us recover faster. And

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<v Speaker 1>think about this, how many practices? Well you you did

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<v Speaker 1>you have a toe injury? Yes, yeah, you had a

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<v Speaker 1>toe injury. So you understand the importance of making sure

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<v Speaker 1>your feet are healthy and they feel good because that

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<v Speaker 1>literally has hurt a lot of our athletes are retired,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of our athletes, so you understand it. So

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<v Speaker 1>these recovery boots, it literally pumps out all of the

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<v Speaker 1>lack acid, all of the fluid from the feet, all

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<v Speaker 1>the way up through the legs through the length. Note

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<v Speaker 1>So now if you come into an NFL locker room

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<v Speaker 1>or NBA locker room before practice, after practice, before games,

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<v Speaker 1>after games, you'll see the entire team with these recovery

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<v Speaker 1>boots on. It literally feels like you have new legs.

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<v Speaker 1>Right when you do this, it literally pumps all of

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<v Speaker 1>that gunk, all that junk out of your body through

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<v Speaker 1>the lemp through the lymph nodes. Right. So that's the

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<v Speaker 1>recovery rooms on the second. On the other end of

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<v Speaker 1>the spectrum, we have to fuel them, uh, from a

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<v Speaker 1>nutritional standpoint, the right way. So how we supplement. We

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<v Speaker 1>talk about protein, we talk about glutamine, we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>vitamins all the time as athletes, but now more than ever,

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<v Speaker 1>we need our nurses, we need our doctors fueling correctly.

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<v Speaker 1>We need them fueling like us because we still have

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<v Speaker 1>two three months minimum to fight this thing that they're

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<v Speaker 1>calling a beast. So if they're not, if they're not

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<v Speaker 1>if they're not fit for the next patient, for the

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<v Speaker 1>next month, for the next two months, what good is

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<v Speaker 1>it to have all of these ventilators and all these

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<v Speaker 1>resources and all these supplies when we don't have the

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<v Speaker 1>staff to be able to use them. And that's my

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<v Speaker 1>biggest concern, and that's where where this whole fuel of

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<v Speaker 1>the front lines thing came from is because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>having all the supplies and all that stuff is great,

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<v Speaker 1>but we were already understaffed from a medical standpoint going

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<v Speaker 1>into COVID nineteen. So think about that we have we're

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<v Speaker 1>losing We're losing nurses and doctors daily. Uh. We have

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<v Speaker 1>nurses and doctors rightfully, so a lot of validity, but

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<v Speaker 1>are afraid to death because they may have, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>an elder at home or a baby at home, so

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<v Speaker 1>they're stopped. They're not even going to work anymore. So

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<v Speaker 1>now we have the small population of caregivers that to

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<v Speaker 1>in all of this pressure on their backs to to

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<v Speaker 1>to to be the the solution to this major problem.

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<v Speaker 1>So we need to do everything we can, not only

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<v Speaker 1>from a supply standpoint, but also from a nutritional standpoint

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<v Speaker 1>and a coverage standpoint, because they're literally saving our lives

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<v Speaker 1>right now. Do you have some corporate partners that have

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<v Speaker 1>joined in? Um? No, So it's been my wife and I. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been out my wife and I. But the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>is doing a phenomenal job. Um. We're you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL is backing us, and they're actually giving us fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>minutes during the NFL Draft to kind of talk about this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So we're excited about the NFL getting behind us.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would say, yes, we have one partner. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be the NFL stepping up taking care of

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<v Speaker 1>uh their family and and and and seeing what we're doing. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But what we're doing now is we're actually putting together

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<v Speaker 1>that initiative. UM. I'm actually starting to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we weren't talking about it the last couple of weeks. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're going to we're setting out to raise two

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<v Speaker 1>point five million dollars and we're just going to go

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<v Speaker 1>to a hundred UM athletes. You know, it could be

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<v Speaker 1>made up of a couple of athletes, a couple entertainers,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple you know, prominent businessmen and women or families

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<v Speaker 1>or companies, and we want a hundred hospitals that we

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<v Speaker 1>serve daily, all right. Uh and it's it costs us

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<v Speaker 1>around twenty two thousand per hospital. So that's what we're

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<v Speaker 1>setting out to do. Now we're starting with, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL Draft and bringing in others to tell this story.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have any players and a legends that are

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<v Speaker 1>already connecting? Yes? So. Uh, we just made a hospital

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<v Speaker 1>run yesterday. So we're at Memorial yesterday. Uh so Stefon

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<v Speaker 1>Diggs came out. Uh, Jerry Judy, which is amazing. You

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<v Speaker 1>got a kid that's probably gonna go top ten in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL Draft, the biggest one of the biggest moments,

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<v Speaker 1>biggest days of his life, and the only thing on

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<v Speaker 1>his mind right now is football is not everything right

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<v Speaker 1>now and this kid is on the front line actually

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<v Speaker 1>serving taking Ossai bowls and salads and ginger shots and

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<v Speaker 1>um and different juices to our our our our nurses

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<v Speaker 1>and doctors. You had JPP out there yesterday, so Jason

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<v Speaker 1>Pierre Paul from Tampa Bay. Um, you have Bobby hard Man.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so many guys. Those are just some of the guys.

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<v Speaker 1>That came out recently, But there's so many guys down

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<v Speaker 1>here in South Florida that is actually on the front

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<v Speaker 1>line and helping us with this initiative. But again, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just once part of it. We're actually, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>setting out to make an impact globally and we're in

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<v Speaker 1>eight hospitals right now and we're excited about growing that

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<v Speaker 1>and doing more. We don't want to just we don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be one of those initiatives where it's just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hey, we're here, just want to say thank

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<v Speaker 1>you and just keep it moving. We're going to serve

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<v Speaker 1>them every single day until this fight is one. Is

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<v Speaker 1>there anywhere now Brandon where NFL players are legends or

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<v Speaker 1>any potential corporate sponsors can connect what what you're doing? Yes? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>all the information right now is on our our page,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you scroll down, so it's the House

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<v Speaker 1>of Athlete dot com. House of Athletes dot com And

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<v Speaker 1>if you go down just a little bit on the website,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll see a button where you can get involved. Also

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<v Speaker 1>our nonprofit Project three seventy so Project three seven five

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<v Speaker 1>dot org. You can go and you can donate. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you can uh figure out ways where you can support

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<v Speaker 1>and so all of the informations there, So thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for that my pleasure. I can see so

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<v Speaker 1>many guys want to get involved because just as you said,

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<v Speaker 1>this is now those from we're we or us being

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<v Speaker 1>stars on the field to now our truth stars and

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<v Speaker 1>taking care of them because they're shining the most doing

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<v Speaker 1>this challenge. Let me dovetail now and ask you how

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<v Speaker 1>all does this initiative? How does that dove tell what

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<v Speaker 1>your efforts regard a mental health awareness because you're a

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<v Speaker 1>big proponent of mental mental health, so how does that

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<v Speaker 1>connect with it? Yeah, that's a that's a great question. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So one of the things we actually last year we

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<v Speaker 1>went through a bit of a transition, uh, because we

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<v Speaker 1>we found that it's it feels and we know, through

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<v Speaker 1>God nothing's impossible, but it feels at time it's almost

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<v Speaker 1>impossible to make the impact or start the conversation that

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<v Speaker 1>we need in the mental health community, uh, to actually

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<v Speaker 1>move the needle when you're dealing with the clinical side

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<v Speaker 1>of it, when you're dealing with the stigma side of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So we made a shift last year before all of

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<v Speaker 1>this where we said, you know what, we're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>come on this end of the spectrum and talk about

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<v Speaker 1>you know, bipolar or depression or exact anxiety and lead

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<v Speaker 1>with that we're actually gonna come on the end of

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<v Speaker 1>this side of performance. Let's just unlock our full potential

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<v Speaker 1>no matter where you're at in life. So we started

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<v Speaker 1>this whole deal that if people if we can get

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<v Speaker 1>people to come in and say, you know what, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to lose weight, I want to get my cholester

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<v Speaker 1>all down, I want to cut my body fat or

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<v Speaker 1>my b and I in half. If we can get

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<v Speaker 1>people in there and then start the conversation about wellness

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<v Speaker 1>and then get them into our our yoga class, will

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<v Speaker 1>put you know, quotation marks around that, and we started

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<v Speaker 1>the conversation about hey, guys, um, sometimes you can be

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<v Speaker 1>on either end of the spectrum. There's a thin line

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<v Speaker 1>between performance and and and and impairment. You know, there

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<v Speaker 1>may be some people dealing with anxiety, mean, some people

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<v Speaker 1>may want to learn more about meditation or how do

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<v Speaker 1>I get in that zone as that professional athlete zone.

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<v Speaker 1>And through that we've made a bigger impact faster than

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<v Speaker 1>it the ten years we spent on the nonprofit side.

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<v Speaker 1>So we feel that the wellness conversation shi um. It

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be a three sixty conversation. We can't just

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<v Speaker 1>talk about mental health, Like if we want to unlock

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<v Speaker 1>our full potential, we have to talk about five things,

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<v Speaker 1>and these five things are the pillars, and these pillars

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<v Speaker 1>should make up our lifes down. If you do this,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll luck your five your your full potential. Number One,

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<v Speaker 1>we all have to train. We were designed to move.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not designed to be couch potatoes, were not designed

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<v Speaker 1>to put their w own things in our body, So

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<v Speaker 1>we preach training. The second pillar for us is fuel.

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<v Speaker 1>We all need to fuel correctly. What are we putting

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<v Speaker 1>in our bodies from a macro nutrient standpoint, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you can't get all of those macronutrients through food, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to be able to supplement. The third thing is

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<v Speaker 1>being mentally fit. So there's that mental health component starting

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<v Speaker 1>that conversation about no matter what in the the spectrum

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<v Speaker 1>you are, if you surround yourself with the right people,

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<v Speaker 1>get the right help, you can be your best self. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>The fourth thing is recovered. Recover is key whether you

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<v Speaker 1>have a bad back, you have a bumpny, or if

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<v Speaker 1>you just need to go on vacation. Recover is key,

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<v Speaker 1>and the last thing is tried, like having a team

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<v Speaker 1>of people you can do life with. We gotta do.

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<v Speaker 1>We have to be in the community. We were we were,

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<v Speaker 1>we were built to do things and do life with

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<v Speaker 1>other people. So that mental health deal it lives in

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<v Speaker 1>all of that. You can't do one without the other. Brandon,

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<v Speaker 1>I've always heard about your I guess your vision when

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<v Speaker 1>it came down to mental health. Let's let's now go

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<v Speaker 1>back to you. Where did you grow up? Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, Yeah, we're poor, the poorest, the poorest county

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<v Speaker 1>in all of Pennsylvania. Pitch Bird, you mean the home

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<v Speaker 1>of the Steelers. That's right, still city. So when did

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<v Speaker 1>you realize you needed to get help from a mental

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<v Speaker 1>wellness standpoint? Two thousand and eleven. Uh, just came off

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<v Speaker 1>of signing a big deal in two thousand and ten.

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<v Speaker 1>Four years in Denver, played there. There's some amazing things

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<v Speaker 1>ship to my the Miami Dolphins. The first year, um

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<v Speaker 1>was the first year. That was the first year where

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<v Speaker 1>you know football, there was things on the field that

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't control. Like football. The football field was always

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<v Speaker 1>my sanctuary. I could all no matter what was happening

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<v Speaker 1>in the neighborhood. No matter what was happening at home,

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<v Speaker 1>I would be able to go to the football field

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<v Speaker 1>and just absolutely be a beast and crush it. And

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<v Speaker 1>then there was a couple of practices where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I had so much going on off the field. My

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<v Speaker 1>story is not unique at all. Probably our girls and

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<v Speaker 1>guys deal with the same thing, but all of us,

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<v Speaker 1>not all of us have the same coping mechanisms or

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<v Speaker 1>have the tools and skills to be able to self regulate.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have that. So two thousand and ten football

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<v Speaker 1>something was going on there. Let's fast forward to two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and eleven. I go to Ricky Williams. I say, Ricky,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think I'm bi polar? You know, because like

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<v Speaker 1>I literally come into practice and or in the work

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes and like I'm gonna keep my mouth so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna say anything. And Ricky looked at me. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you guys may have heard Ricky Williams before

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like Michael Jackson voice, He's like brand. Then

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<v Speaker 1>he said, no, I don't think you're bi polar. I

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<v Speaker 1>just think you say the things that we all want

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<v Speaker 1>to say but won't say, right so I'm like, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason why it was it was important for

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<v Speaker 1>me to go to Ricky because remember Ricky was living

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<v Speaker 1>in a tent in Australia. He walked away from twenty

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<v Speaker 1>something million dollars when left football, remember and that, and

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<v Speaker 1>when he had this documentary came out and then part

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<v Speaker 1>of the documentary he showed there was a part of

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<v Speaker 1>it where he was on he was in Waltham, Massachusetts

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<v Speaker 1>at this hospital working with Dr Dunderson. So I was

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<v Speaker 1>asking about it cause I'm like, how's how does this

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<v Speaker 1>guy go from that to now being this for nomen

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<v Speaker 1>ain football player, phenomenal teammate, this phenomenal man. He'd be

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in the hot tub reading a book, which was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like like this isn't this this the locker room?

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<v Speaker 1>What is this? So through that I said, Ricky, well

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<v Speaker 1>I need to connect with that doctor that worked with you.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyways, I end up going to uh McLean Hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>Spent three months there in the outpatient program, diagnosed with

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<v Speaker 1>the borderline personality disorder UM and I was in dialectical

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<v Speaker 1>behavior therapy, mentalization therapy, self assessment. I did neurological tests,

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<v Speaker 1>I did a cognitive uh, test just to see if

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<v Speaker 1>I was capable of change, and um, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>put in the work. I would literally be on campus

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<v Speaker 1>from eight am to five pm every day. After that

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go to re Box headquarters and work out and

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<v Speaker 1>train because it's the year of the lockout, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>it was. It was. It was the most phenomenal experience

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<v Speaker 1>for me. You know, I gave my life to Christ

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<v Speaker 1>the year before, and I thought everything was gonna be great,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought, Man, all my problems gonna go away.

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<v Speaker 1>Things got harder, things got order for me. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I found myself praying, like, Man, help me break this cycle,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, answer this prayer, give me clarity. And

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't until I was halfway through that program at

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<v Speaker 1>McClean Hospital. I'm all my knees praying, and I well,

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<v Speaker 1>I started my morning's pray praying and I get on

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<v Speaker 1>my knees halfway through. Um that my time there, and

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<v Speaker 1>I go to pray to start my day and I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't pray. It was just like like I was laughing.

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<v Speaker 1>I literally was laughing. That was the first time I

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<v Speaker 1>was able to really feel and see a prayer answer.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, Wow, he's helping me. This is

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's actually breaking the cycle right now. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is the most clear vision I've ever had.

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<v Speaker 1>So two thousand and eleven is when I knew, and

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<v Speaker 1>it happened on the football field. I dropped four passes

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, wow, that's never happened before. What is

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<v Speaker 1>going on in my mind? What's happening to my brain?

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<v Speaker 1>And that's when I called Dr Gunderson at McClean hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>So as we was out branding, here's the question, because

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<v Speaker 1>we do a check in early morning eight thirty every

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<v Speaker 1>morning with the whole family. We check in and part

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<v Speaker 1>of my question this morning was how do you feel

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<v Speaker 1>no work? What are you guys feeling? What do you

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<v Speaker 1>recommend two people who are obviously staying home and dealing

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<v Speaker 1>with may not even know what they're dealing with in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of emotions. What in I guess, uh succinct way

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<v Speaker 1>would you share what legends or anyone that's listening how

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<v Speaker 1>to manage this pandemic and to stay at home? Are

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<v Speaker 1>there any tips that comes to mind? I would say this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you you said pandemic right, um. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of us are experiencing anxiety, depression of isolation for the

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<v Speaker 1>first time. And then there's some of us that are

0:23:54.880 --> 0:23:59.040
<v Speaker 1>just actolutely used to this, right uh, like the probably

0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:03.040
<v Speaker 1>the the patients like myself that's gone through this battle.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like we're prepared for this. So I would say

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<v Speaker 1>if you're either someone who's dealt with this before or

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<v Speaker 1>if you've never dealt with this before, it's normal, right

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, don't panic, seek help. Talk. Therapy is

0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:21.040
<v Speaker 1>the number one thing we can do right now. And

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<v Speaker 1>as men and and some of our legends out there

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<v Speaker 1>just tuning in, you know, we're too maucho at times.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't talk. We need This is not the time

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<v Speaker 1>to do that. We need to talk. We need to

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<v Speaker 1>open up. That's all I got for you. Hopefully they'll

0:24:38.359 --> 0:24:41.840
<v Speaker 1>have somebody out there. You're you. You will help more

0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:43.840
<v Speaker 1>than some people out there. And a great thing is

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast is not consumed just by legends, and just

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<v Speaker 1>as you spoke to the general public. Thank you so much, Brandon.

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<v Speaker 1>This has been terrific. Thanks for joining us and thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for listening in. The best is yet to come, Yes, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, m M. This has been the NFL Legends podcast.

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