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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast can afford avocado toast and

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Speaker 1: a house. Welcome back to another edition of the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansas, and I'm

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Speaker 1: joined by Room Filled the heroes, Mark Sessler, Colleen Wolf,

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Speaker 1: and Gregg Rose with all what's up people? Hey, hey, hey,

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Speaker 1: Not a single person attached to this show is ever

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Speaker 1: owned a house in Los Angeles or ever. Will we

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Speaker 1: live in the house or I do? Yeah, I guess

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Speaker 1: we all do. Rent is not really, it's not affording

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Speaker 1: a house, that's renting space. This we could not be

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Speaker 1: further from owning. Yeah, I ask our wives and husbands

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Speaker 1: and other various figures if we're owning property. This is

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast, presented of course by Head and

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Speaker 1: Shoulders and uh, special day because it's Mark Sessler's birthday. Birthday.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even know that keeping it out what a

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Speaker 1: genuine reaction from college. We've lost, we've lost the ability

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Speaker 1: to that. I wish I had like a cake or

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Speaker 1: a cupcake or do you know you're good? You're good?

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Speaker 1: We're good. I mean, as you mentioned, Dan, a lot

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Speaker 1: of pop for a forty three year old man's Birthdayeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm forty four, Greg, But thank you. Before we passed

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Speaker 1: past somebody in the hallway and I was like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I heard it your birthday and Marks like, yeah, nailed it.

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Speaker 1: But he got plans here, big day. You got a

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Speaker 1: day off tomorrow. What are you gonna do? I really

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Speaker 1: have I have not planned it how much at all

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Speaker 1: to be I don't believe that that's something. No, I'm

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Speaker 1: taking them all. But it's to do a lot of

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Speaker 1: work stuff and not being interrupted by work other work things.

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Speaker 1: Here's my check out the Instagram and Mark Sussler. Tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm predicting six am shots of Los Angeles alleyways

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Speaker 1: at dawn. That's why I want you drinking white wine

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Speaker 1: and texting Greg this. Yeah, this feels like it's it

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Speaker 1: will not be the case. It feels like a trip

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Speaker 1: up the coast type of day. To trip up the coast.

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Speaker 1: There's definitely some wine involved, maybe a hostile like that

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Speaker 1: type of thing, that type assessler that's couch in the

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Speaker 1: middle of a work week. My aspirations are low. We'll

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Speaker 1: see what happens. Um all right, A lot to get

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Speaker 1: to today. As you know, if you're a listener of

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Speaker 1: our Tuesday showed is jam packed. Got Connie Fox with us,

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Speaker 1: the tiny box they call her, and you have to

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Speaker 1: be excited because so many things going on. Number One,

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Speaker 1: we got to talk about Monday Night Football, a game

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Speaker 1: nice saucy affair in Chicago between the Vikings and Bears. Also,

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Speaker 1: we are going to take a look at some different

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Speaker 1: players across the league that have struggled, and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: we're gonna bring out the def con uh meter and

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Speaker 1: and and share uh express our level of concern for

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Speaker 1: each of these prominent names. And yes, it is back

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Speaker 1: for a third week. Against Greg's wishes, perhaps against society's wishes.

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Speaker 1: It is on you, the listener, to end the sub

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Speaker 1: Breddit super contest because it's back for a week three.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, but the opportunity to win two game

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Speaker 1: tickets to any game in the country or in London.

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Speaker 1: Is it only three but only the third show? Is

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Speaker 1: that the third week? Usually you're in the season, you're like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it flew by, you know, like these shows, these shows

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Speaker 1: It is something. Um it started out as a nice

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Speaker 1: thing for me to watch Greg's squirm. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: will say one thing, I I love our listeners, but

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Speaker 1: with each passing week, my confidence in their ability and

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Speaker 1: the clutch is lessoned. This is a huge week for

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Speaker 1: the listeners. Let's be on it's it's a small sample size,

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Speaker 1: though I'm willing to make rash judgments off a small size,

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Speaker 1: But it's not that small. It's a stack of tomato kins,

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Speaker 1: all right. So we'll see the loose Canda behind the glass.

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Speaker 1: with that Monday night football game by Rubinsky goes out

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Speaker 1: a game, a game greg where the Vikings lost. They're

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Speaker 1: want to assume as a head coach, this is not

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Speaker 1: the thing you want to have at the top. Of

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Speaker 1: your bullet points of I need to be concerned about

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Speaker 1: weekly with my team. There's a lot you got trying

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Speaker 1: to develop a young quarterback and offense. But people tweeting saying, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: this is a bigger issue than like these teams that

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Speaker 1: don't have quarterbacks, the Jets, the Browns, other teams like no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna find a kicker. This thing is gonna sort

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Speaker 1: itself out. Don't tell me that you're in a worse

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Speaker 1: situation than these teams that haven't had a quarterback that hard.

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Speaker 1: You just found a liquor who was already on your team.

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Speaker 1: He used to be on the box and he made

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Speaker 1: it does feel hex though. Something feels like dark arts

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Speaker 1: magic going on with that team, and I don't like

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Speaker 1: it at all. And finally in the news, why a

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Speaker 1: Tittle the Hall of Fame quarterback not a booter, A

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Speaker 1: Sigma caller for the Colts, forty Niners, Giants. He passed

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Speaker 1: away on Sunday night, ninety years old. Mark You wrote

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Speaker 1: a o bit up for NFL dot com. He was

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Speaker 1: seen or is seen as one of the trailblazers in

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Speaker 1: terms of the passing quarterbacks in the NFL. Used to

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Speaker 1: be a lot more boring. Uh, if you don't, if

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Speaker 1: you if you're not a fan of like three yards

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Speaker 1: up the middle cloud of dust. Hittle was part of

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Speaker 1: the group that kind of changed how offensive worked well.

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Speaker 1: And also all these quarterbacks that are constantly getting headlines

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Speaker 1: because they want to play until they're late thirties. I

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Speaker 1: might play until I'm thirty six, like this guy played

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Speaker 1: until thirty eight, long before sports science and all that

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Speaker 1: other nonsense rose up. He was taking the Giants into

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Speaker 1: the playoff picture and in the in the mid sixties

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Speaker 1: when he was in his late thirties. This guy was

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Speaker 1: also the player if you don't remember growing up as

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Speaker 1: a football fan and see the iconic photo of him.

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Speaker 1: I think it was his last season in the league

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Speaker 1: after he had thrown a pick six sitting kneeling on

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Speaker 1: the turf, blood coming down from his from his forehead.

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Speaker 1: He was called the Bald Eagle because he had a

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Speaker 1: bald head. That's one of the most iconic NFL photos ever.

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Speaker 1: And he also is the guy that threw seven touchdowns

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Speaker 1: in one game against the Redskins. Why a Tittle dead

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Speaker 1: at the age of ninety rest in peace. Uh, that's

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Speaker 1: it for the news. And now let's move on to

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Speaker 1: the Thursday night football preview presented by Shoulders of Greatness,

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Speaker 1: Head and Shoulders, Shoulders of Greatness. I'll get it eventually.

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Speaker 1: That was good. Yeah, I did my best. All right?

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Speaker 1: Here we go, Greg, Philadelphia Eagles at the Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 1: Oh my own, how about this? Uh CBS and Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Nance and Antonio Romo all excited because they got a

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Speaker 1: banger here to four and one teams, And I'll say it.

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Speaker 1: I'll throw it out there potential NFC Championship game preview.

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Speaker 1: I don't care. I'm set it. Colleen would love I

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Speaker 1: would love that because these are two of my most

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Speaker 1: favorite teams to watch because of the quarterbacks, because they're

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Speaker 1: so entertaining the fact that if you had told me

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Speaker 1: going into the season, the Eagles would have a great

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Speaker 1: running game and the Panthers would be the team the

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Speaker 1: last few weeks when they really get it going, which

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Speaker 1: is all about the past, and I would be a

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Speaker 1: little worried about how they play with the lead. They

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Speaker 1: gave up that lead in part because they could not

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Speaker 1: run the ball, but it didn't matter because no one

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Speaker 1: right now is any better throwing intermediate passes up the

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Speaker 1: seams more than Cam Newton. Yeah, I'm I obviously can't

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Speaker 1: wait for this game. I think the Carson Wentz, the

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Speaker 1: way that he's been able to spread the ball around

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Speaker 1: and get so many different guys involved. We saw Tori

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Speaker 1: Smith finally get a touchdown, and the way that he's

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Speaker 1: connecting with Nelson Agholare, who couldn't even catch last year.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was dropping everything last year and now

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Speaker 1: he's scoring these long touchdowns. Plus the defensive line there,

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Speaker 1: they had Fletcher Cox out and it's like it doesn't

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Speaker 1: even matter because Timmy Journe Again, that was an amazing

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Speaker 1: job by Howie Roseman to bring him in this year

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Speaker 1: because it doesn't even look like a problem like this,

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Speaker 1: Are you waiting all day for Thursday night? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean it's it's the most exciting Eagles team in a while.

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Speaker 1: It's a fun. It's a team that feels like it

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Speaker 1: has stay in power because it's good on both sides

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Speaker 1: of the line. Like there aren't how many NFL teams

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Speaker 1: can even think of That's like they have a good

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Speaker 1: offensive line and they have a great defensive line that

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Speaker 1: there's not any Yeah, they they were very high for

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Speaker 1: most of us. I believe in our power rankings, I

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Speaker 1: had them at two, which I think was a little aggressive,

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Speaker 1: But I kind of think the rounding into form. I

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Speaker 1: love the fact that, you know, early first two weeks,

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Speaker 1: the ground game seemed like a suspect operation, which is

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Speaker 1: terrible for a young quarterback. Now it's like you get

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Speaker 1: Smallwood goes out and they just plug in. Kenyan Barner,

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Speaker 1: who looked great on special teams, look great, you know,

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Speaker 1: catching passes out of the backfield. They got so many

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Speaker 1: different guys that you can attack with. And zach Ertz

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Speaker 1: is quietly the best tight end in football right now.

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Speaker 1: It's not even clothe, I mean has been well. People

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Speaker 1: automatically put Gronk and I get, but but Earth's productive,

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Speaker 1: a guy that you could count on week after week,

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Speaker 1: and especially in a year I mean, if you want

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Speaker 1: to take it to the fantasy corner, an a year

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Speaker 1: where the tight end position has been so bad that

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Speaker 1: you're gonna have teams and leagues that are gonna get

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Speaker 1: the flex position and wiping out the tight end because

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Speaker 1: who knows when this position is this position being phased

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Speaker 1: out and on some level on from a past catching

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Speaker 1: uh angle Earth's has been a guy every week who

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Speaker 1: was delivering from the guy on the other side of

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Speaker 1: the ball. I was gonna say, I have that many

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Speaker 1: yards the rest of the season. I convinced yards. This

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Speaker 1: is where you know you have some great shoulders when

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Speaker 1: other when guys that normally aren't doing it, Yeah, look

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Speaker 1: at it. Seven. Fun has really impressed me week after

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Speaker 1: week with the tough grabs that he's making and then

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Speaker 1: you have he's running. Are really something right? Yeah? So

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Speaker 1: you know about that didn't give me pause. I was like,

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Speaker 1: taking on the routes. It's funny. Fun will be remembered

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Speaker 1: for that forever now. But he's coming into his own

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Speaker 1: like It's just a deep offense, which I didn't expect.

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Speaker 1: Kind of like the Eagles, they don't really have one

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Speaker 1: guy standy o. Alshon. Jeffrey's been fine. It's nice to

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Speaker 1: have all Shon. Jeffrey is not like a dominant number

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Speaker 1: one receiver, but they had eight guys catch a pass

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Speaker 1: in the first half last week. He's spreading around. I

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Speaker 1: also thought Calvin Benjamin looked really good at the games

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Speaker 1: doing test catch. I believe that that mojo seems to

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Speaker 1: be act between Newton and Benjamin uh So, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: like there's a lot of reasons to be excited about

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Speaker 1: the Panthers ceiling right now. I think the Panthers best

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00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: game is as good as anyone. Like, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if we're going to see that every week, but I

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Speaker 1: think if they they have the pieces, I think they're

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Speaker 1: a better team than the Eagles overall, if they play

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Speaker 1: their very best and if they go on is this

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00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: game in Carolina? It is? So that's I think that's

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Speaker 1: a huge advantage. They go three straight weeks, winning in Foxboro,

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Speaker 1: winning in Detroit, and then you beat the Eagles. That's

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Speaker 1: that is an impressive three game run. And if the

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Speaker 1: Eagles win, NFC East is getting close to being wrapped. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: people are gonna be fired up the City of Brotherly Love.

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Speaker 1: All right, So there you go. That is the Thursday.

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Speaker 1: I present a preview presented by Head and Shoulders and

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Speaker 1: all them shoulders a greatness, all of them great All right,

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Speaker 1: here we go we uh we tease it at the

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Speaker 1: top of the show. Uh. There are some um significant

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Speaker 1: name brand players across the NFL landscape who have not

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Speaker 1: performed up to expectations this season. Let's go down the list,

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Speaker 1: and and I'm gonna throw some out there and we'll

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Speaker 1: go around the room. Um, who are you really worried about?

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Speaker 1: Who are you not so worried about it? Who are

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Speaker 1: you kind of on the fence with And we're gonna

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Speaker 1: do this by using Um this is this is important

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Speaker 1: that I explained this properly because, Uh, it is the

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Speaker 1: def con ready, the deaf con system. Uh it is.

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Speaker 1: And people that are not in this country, I don't

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Speaker 1: even know if def con is a thing. So this

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Speaker 1: is what you need to know. It's an alert state

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Speaker 1: used by the United States United States Armed Forces, and uh,

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Speaker 1: there are five levels. And I was explaining talking with

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Speaker 1: Connie before the show. Uh, some people think level one

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Speaker 1: is the lowest level of a def con in terms

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Speaker 1: of concern. Flip it, flip it. And when I said

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Speaker 1: that to Connie, she said, oh, god, damn it. So

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Speaker 1: we're a little worried. So Defcon five is the highest.

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Speaker 1: That is the lowest state of readiness, normal readiness. Don't

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Speaker 1: worry about DECON five. Really, Decon five not that big

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Speaker 1: a deal. The problem on issues. The description is nuclear

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Speaker 1: war is imminent maximum readiness. We're kind of like our

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Speaker 1: country and like this is getting too real. I would

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Speaker 1: say we're probably around defcon to. I'm with you on

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Speaker 1: that next step to nuclear war. I'm glad we're on

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Speaker 1: the West coast as well, right there, Like definitely an

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Speaker 1: NFL players performance after four or five weeks of games,

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Speaker 1: is you know, attributed to a nuclear war reference? Maybe

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Speaker 1: in these that happened to the vikings last year, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's fair. Maybe in these times of unease, mark the

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Speaker 1: best thing we can do just kind of make light

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Speaker 1: at the world of the world and just have some

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Speaker 1: fun here in the old studio. Okay, here we go.

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Speaker 1: Here we go halfway up the coast. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: because I am certainly not six. The thunderbird with the

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Speaker 1: top down, the wind going through his hair. I could

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Speaker 1: see it now, the bottle of white fix front seat

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Speaker 1: not opened yet. But once you get to that, just

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Speaker 1: that beachside location, blasting the beatles, you say it's your

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00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: birthday over and over in his car. We can't use

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Speaker 1: the beatles. You can't say just stay away from it.

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Speaker 1: Just we don't want to say thankfully. We can sing

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Speaker 1: happy birthday, though, now that's a new thing. I don't

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Speaker 1: even not sure about that. Just yeah, just all right,

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Speaker 1: let's start it out, and we'll start with the name

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Speaker 1: that is going to be at the top of everyone's

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Speaker 1: list if you're following the NFL, especially on Sunday, a

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Speaker 1: star that you just cannot figure out. So we're gonna

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Speaker 1: start with you, Mr Sessler. His name is big Ben Rothelisberger.

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Speaker 1: And he just threw five in or set options and

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Speaker 1: a loss of the Jaguars. And he has not been

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Speaker 1: um a very good quarterback all season. Where would you

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Speaker 1: put him? Uh, where are you on level of concern?

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Speaker 1: Where would you put him on the deaf con scale?

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Speaker 1: Terrible game? I mean you have to, you have He's

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Speaker 1: never had a game to that magnitude. I'm going deaf

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Speaker 1: con for though, because I think the whole offense feels

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Speaker 1: a little bit out of sync. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: judge big Ben. I think it's one of been in

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Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks in NFL history, in the best of

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Speaker 1: our life. Based on one month's kind of it's he's

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00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: been all right in other games. This was he This

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00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: was a meltdown, But meltdowns occur occasionally. They happened all

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Speaker 1: the time for lesser quarterbacks. When it happens to him.

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Speaker 1: I'm not calling his career yet. If we're talking about

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Speaker 1: this three weeks from now, the deaf con level raises

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Speaker 1: much higher. For me. I thought he had a bad game,

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Speaker 1: obviously very bad game, but some of the picks weren't

639
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 1: so bad, and then the game kind of I give

640
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: a lot of credit to Jacksonville. There seemed like there

641
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: was like thirteen guys on the field in the secondary

642
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: at various points that game, so I think it was

643
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: a game they've just got out of hand. A receiver

644
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: slipped to one point. There weren't too many horrendous passes,

645
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: I thought by Ben, so I'm with you. Def Gun

646
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: four is also, by the way, increased intelligence watch and

647
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: strengthened security measures feel feels fair. That that feels fair.

648
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: But he's been before this game solid but not spectacular,

649
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: which is not what you expect out of Ben Roethlisbigger,

650
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: you expect the spectacular. So I think it is fair

651
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: to be concerned. If you're just looking at a well

652
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: how concerned, then I'm gonna go free because it's more

653
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: than It's more than just five games. It's last season two.

654
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: So he was at eight point four yards per attempt

655
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago down a full yard last

656
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: year just about the seven point five, and now we're

657
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: down to six point five. So they're not they're not

658
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: being as efficient as a passing game really through the

659
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,959
Speaker 1: last well, my one question, would he even be in

660
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: this exercise on this list if he hadn't had the

661
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: Sunday meltdown? If he had he had, if he had

662
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: two touchdowns and a pick and a pick and they've

663
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: got out with he has more interceptions than touchdowns so

664
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: far this year. And the offense, who we all thought

665
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: and a lot of people thought was going to be

666
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: this like monster machine, just hasn't clicked at all. And

667
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: I think that starts with him. It's not like I

668
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 1: think he's at the end of the line. It's more

669
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: is he done with being a top five quarterbacks? That's

670
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: what I expect, That's what I've thought Ben Roethlisberger is

671
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 1: throughout most of his career as a top five guy,

672
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: and he hasn't been that guy. All right, Let's move

673
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: on and talk about Marshawn Lynch, who came to the

674
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: Raiders which out of retirement with much fanfare. Things got

675
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: off to a very nice start, helped close out a

676
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: win over the Titans. But ever since, uh he has

677
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: not averaged more than three point eight yards per game

678
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 1: in any game, and on the season he's at three

679
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 1: point four yards per game. Has found the end zone twice,

680
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 1: including on Sunday, but has been a bit underwhelming. Greg

681
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: Where would you put him on your deaf con scale?

682
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: I would put him at def Con five, lowest state

683
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: of readiness. I'm not he like. I'm not that concerned

684
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: with him. It's more of the offense as a whole.

685
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: He fulfills a very particular role in that offense. And

686
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: when I watched him run, I think he's running hard.

687
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: No one's running well for that team. No one's doing anything.

688
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: I mean, the passing game was struggling. Derek Carr was

689
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: struggling before he got hurt. There's a lot going on.

690
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: To me, Lynch is just a part of the system.

691
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 1: But if we because there was a lot of talk

692
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: that and a lot of praise for him when he

693
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 1: first came back. Oh, he hasn't the beat. This looks

694
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: like prime Lynch, like Marshawn Lynch. When he's Marshawn Lynch,

695
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: makes teams better, makes offensive lines look better, and he

696
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: has not been that. I mean that he has not

697
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: been able to carry, you know, carry the load. Maybe

698
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: it's the Colleen Wolf curse. You know, you step back

699
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf a little in inappropriately on air, and you

700
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: don't have a good season. That's That's what happens to everybody.

701
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 1: Anybody who who who comes at me like that, he that, yeah,

702
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: so overly frisky, and he's now he's paying the price.

703
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: I think so, Like, I mean, it makes sense you

704
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: just add connect to all of those dots and what else.

705
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 1: How about another Raider and we'll let you start this

706
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 1: one off, Connie Amari Cooper, who has been really not

707
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: just not a real contributor, but he's become a liability.

708
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: It seems to the Raiders that wide receiver put this one.

709
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 1: I am so concerned about Amari Cooper. It is and

710
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: it's obviously not just I know this is. This is

711
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: a major problem. It's not happening. It's imminent. He hasn't

712
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: looked the same all season. He the drops are crushing

713
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: them right now. He's four of twenty three the last

714
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: three games combined all together, like this is, he's only

715
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: caught thirteen passes on thirty three targets. I don't know

716
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: what's going on with him, but I think it's almost

717
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: he was struggling at the beginning of the season, and

718
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: now it's probably in his head, so it's it's gotten

719
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 1: even worse and more pronounced. One seems high. He hasn't

720
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 1: act record. I know he's been in a funk and

721
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: it hasn't helped. Now that the quarterbacks out, I'll put him.

722
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: I'll put him in to a stepano one. I'm definitely

723
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people have reason to be

724
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: extremely concerned with Amari Cooper. But one means like you're

725
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: almost basically pulling him out of the lineup, which I

726
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: guess could happen, but I don't know. I'm just extremely

727
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: concerned about him, and I wouldn't trust him at all.

728
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: If if he was on my fantasy team, per se,

729
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: I would take him out of my line up. There

730
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: one fantasy first two feels good to me because I

731
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: think the again, it points back to it's not Marshawn Lynch.

732
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily just to Marie Cooper. This whole Raider's

733
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: offense that people just ticketed this team. Oh yeah, twelve

734
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 1: and four roll right into the NFC Championship against the Patriots. Well,

735
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: it's not happening at all. It's a good lesson a

736
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: the offensive line doesn't translate from year to year. But

737
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper, I think it's a kind of guy. What

738
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: do we find out after the season he was dealing

739
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: with X. I don't know what it is, but it's something.

740
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: Whatever it is, something I would go forward because this

741
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: is the same guy we were talking after week one. Wow,

742
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,439
Speaker 1: this looks like a different AMRII Cooper. He looks even

743
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: better than ever in physicality. He's too good, I think

744
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: to not snap out of it. I'd love to see

745
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: where both these guys are in two months. I do.

746
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: I just realize, Greg on the Saints, I feel like

747
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: I know you very well now at this point, Greg,

748
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: and in general, a big like viewpoint in your life

749
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: is it's not a big deal, don't worry about it.

750
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: A lot of like it's gonna be a lot of that.

751
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: All of our like generally, players and teams and all

752
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: of this like reverts to their normal means. So when

753
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,439
Speaker 1: they're down, the logical pick is they're gonna go up. Okay,

754
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: let's do two more. Um, how about this one? Mark Sessler,

755
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: not not specifically a player, but the Tennessee Tytoons uh

756
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 1: and their exotic smash mouth offense. Not a lot going

757
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: on with the Titans on offense so far this season.

758
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: Their quarterbacks hurt. Hopefully it gets back soon, but in general,

759
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: the idea of exotic smash mouth in Nashville. I think

760
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: the team wanted to change a little bit on an offense.

761
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: In theory. You added Corey Davis, Eric Decker, you have

762
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: more weapons Shard Matthews through the air. But one of

763
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: the most unwatchable NFL teams i've seen all season with

764
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: Mariotta replaced by Matt Castle at quarterback. Totally dysfunctional, and

765
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: I think it says when you can't you know, when

766
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: you can't have to deal with it, Marks Marito. But

767
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: it's Matt Castle flinging, you know, dump offs and and

768
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 1: inaccurate screen passes that you can tee up on the

769
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: running backs. But they also don't seem to have the

770
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 1: offensive line strength. And last year they're putting six seven

771
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: blockers and they were just saying we're gonna come at you.

772
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: I love that style of football. I haven't seen it

773
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: this year. I think DeMarco Murray. You know, it's not

774
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: a crisis with de Marco Murray, but he's not the

775
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 1: guy from last season next Cilian Derrick Henry. They haven't

776
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: last game at least they didn't quite figure out how

777
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: to get unleash him and get him involved. So the

778
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: smash mouth thing to me, I put it at a

779
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:53,720
Speaker 1: two because the Titans, to me, I think I'm baking

780
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: in the whole Mariotta experience and if he's out for

781
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: extending more amount of time, but we all know their

782
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 1: offense is going to be bad with Matt Castle, Brenda,

783
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: I just don't see that. I don't see a major

784
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: progress from last year's offense. I do not. I see

785
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: a regression. And that's why it's high. This is a

786
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: team that put up seventy points on the Jaguars and

787
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, two defenses we respect that ran for nearly

788
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: two hundred yards a game in both those games. So

789
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 1: I'm going defcon one. I mean you're going one. Matt

790
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: Castle is def con the whole system on the way

791
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: I messed it up. Wait, like Colleen, you know you

792
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 1: know we're back to You don't care at all about

793
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: this situation. That's what you mean, I was like, it's

794
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: not like Colleen in the Sandwich game. I don't really

795
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: understand what's going on. I'm going deaf gun five. Of

796
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: course Matt Castle. Of course, Matt Castle is beyond def

797
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: cont Castle is like, you're just like it's over. If

798
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariotte is back, then I'm not worried. Here's the

799
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: worst news. Uh, if you have someone that flips the

800
00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: Defcon one switch, you can't be and you just led

801
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: to like millions of people sloughtered, Greg, How do you

802
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 1: feel they'll get He'll get over it, right, I can

803
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: He'll get over it. It'll be fine, all right, last one,

804
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: last one, and then we gotta go. Let's be quick

805
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 1: on this Jamis Winston. I have no real take on that.

806
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: I think I don't understand why he's on the list. Five.

807
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: Are we worried about Jamis? The last game he kind

808
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: of looked a little off. This is where we differ.

809
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: You know, you can't put me in a box. I'm

810
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: going def Con three on Jamis Winston. I don't think

811
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: he's played well all season. I mean, I don't think

812
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 1: the Bucks offense has played well. He had a couple

813
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 1: of quarters where he gets hot for a little bit,

814
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: but I would say he's been less consistent this season

815
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: than ever before in the season where we expect him

816
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: to take another step. I'm a little concerned. It's been

817
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: a very erratic offense for four straight weeks and then

818
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 1: consistently not very good. Well. I like getting Doug Martin back,

819
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: and I do think there's been too much emphasis on

820
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: trying to make the Deshaun Jackson thing worked. Quarter after quarter.

821
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: It seems like his throws just are as accurate as

822
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 1: they were before, and the communication is not on the

823
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: He's not on the same page with a lot of

824
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: his guys, especially on that last play with O. J. Howard,

825
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: like where it's my level? Where does your return to

826
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: the mean theory apply to this? Because I think he will.

827
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: I think he'll be fine. It's a young quarterback that

828
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: we can't expect the world from this, you know this minute. Well,

829
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: we're talking this season, and I'm concerned that that this

830
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 1: has been enough such and it might be another kind

831
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: of up and down Winston year, which was not kind

832
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: of the consensus going into the season. It was seeming

833
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: that he was going to be the next level guy.

834
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: Get it. That seems right? All right, there you go

835
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: that have gone levels concerned. Sorry, stuggling player's kind of mixing,

836
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: mixing metaphors, Does that make sense? We kind of got

837
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 1: a little messy in there, did our best. We think

838
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: we got the mess I'm sorry to all the civilians

839
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: out there that I literally their shadows are on the

840
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: pavement and that's all that's left. Yeah. Wow, it's so

841
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: dark in here. It's getting so dark. Oh my god.

842
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 1: Um okay, let's bring some light income please, let's do please,

843
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: let's stop killing everybody we're gonna do it with. It's

844
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: like nuclear death, drug problems. There's so much thing, so

845
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: many bad things in the world that Mark's birthday. Mark's

846
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 1: birthday is a nice thing, but also it's a reminder.

847
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 1: You guys are far more excited about it than I am,

848
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: but it is a It is a reminder of the

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00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: unstoppable march of time on some level. So that's kind

850
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: of dark. But one thing that is bright is the

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00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: sub reddit super Contest Week four def Con five sound No,

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00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: I think it was like a trumpet. This feels like

853
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: the nuclear blast level of my fear in this is

854
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Speaker 1: def Con too. I bring it up people, and again

855
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: I'm with I would put it, I've been shaken a

856
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,439
Speaker 1: little bit by the listeners last week. I thought that

857
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: we put out some questions that were I don't I

858
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: want to say layups, but it was like, hey, guys,

859
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: we want you to win these these dam football how

860
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: you put it up on a t and they walked up,

861
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: you know, like one of those kids with the bat,

862
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 1: and they just hit the actual tea. I want to

863
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 1: stay for the whole time there, but just hit the

864
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: tall Sadly, Connie wants to say, so, let's get right

865
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,760
Speaker 1: into it. If we can loose cannon behind the glass.

866
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: Who do we have up first today? Colin from New Jersey,

867
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: Collin from New Jersey, Jersey Boy, we were in Jersey,

868
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: coln right near Morristown, Somerset County. Are you an Eagles fan? Oh?

869
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 1: No way, I'm a Jets fan. Alright, Colin, all right,

870
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: first Jets fan. You know Colin that I'm rooting for

871
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: you here, uh maybe even our own Could you potentially

872
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: have two tickets the Jets Patriots as on the line, alright,

873
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: so you know I'm rooting for you. But at the

874
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: same time, Colin, I cannot do anything but read the

875
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: questions and you need to get four answers in a

876
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: row or we say goodbye. And even despite being a

877
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: Jersey guy and being a Jets fan, we're hanging up

878
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: the phone if you fail and there's nothing else to say.

879
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: That's all right, let's do this thing. Oh ready. The

880
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: Houston Texans lost two key defensive players to season ending

881
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: injuries in Sunday Nights, lost to the Chiefs. Name uh

882
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 1: J J. Watt and Whitney Merciless. Coolest name in the NFL.

883
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: I'm feeling good. I think it ends here. I think

884
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: the ends good. Good. This quarterback. This quarterback has started

885
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: games with three different NFC teams since being taken first

886
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 1: overall in the two thousand ten NFL Draft. Sammy Bradford,

887
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: yea halfway home. Christian Anderson had his finger on the trigger,

888
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: ready to hang up on you behind the glass, but

889
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: no halfway right now? Colin from Morristown, New Jersey. Let's

890
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: do this. This is the question tied to Around the

891
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: NFL podcast trivia. How long you've been a listener? Uh,

892
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: two and a half years. You should be okay, you're

893
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 1: question three? Who is John Gonzalez? Who is John Gonzales?

894
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 1: Is calling Wolf's lovely husband from Philadelphia. Yeah, alright, that's right,

895
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:33,959
Speaker 1: you got it. I lived there for a couple of years,

896
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: big fans, all right, No it was I mean, this

897
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: is just we don't even need the fourth question. Send

898
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 1: the ticket. I like this guy. My girlfriend went through

899
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: the mount and I told him about the Gwynned Gwenned

900
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: Academy story. They love. That's where my sister went at

901
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: the Penny story. Yeah, it's We're all basically family on

902
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: that side of the story. Classic Wolf. Alright, so there

903
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 1: you go. That's three for three. Um, if anyone is

904
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: curious about John Gonzalaz, there's even more information if you

905
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: want to hear it. Did you just get hired by

906
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 1: the ringer? He did? Oh, there's also this information. John

907
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: Reynald Gonzalo sport Marks twelve is an American sports writer.

908
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: Was married NIFL need a broadcaster Colley Wolf. John, who

909
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: was Spy's resides in Los Angeles with his wife and

910
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 1: two dogs. Okay, Originally Dan wanted that that needed to

911
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: be the complete answer. I said, this is yeah, that

912
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: was me literally trying to kill Greg. But I'll take

913
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 1: lovely husband in Philadelphia native. Okay, here we go. This

914
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: is for all the marbles. Uh, three in a row.

915
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 1: You're ready, Christian, don't hang up his fingers on the button.

916
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 1: Here we go. This is an audio clue. The Bears

917
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: what we thought they were, what we thought they were.

918
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,919
Speaker 1: We played them in preseason. The hell takes a third

919
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: game in the preseason, like bo, we played him in

920
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: the third game. Everybody played three quarters their Bears or

921
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 1: who we thought they were. That's why we took the

922
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: damn field. Now, if you want to crown him, then

923
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: crowned her. But they are who we thought they were,

924
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: and we led him out the hook. Put the name

925
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 1: that the former Arizona Arizona Cardinals. Good Kevin Green. Oh oh, oh,

926
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Speaker 1: golle it. I thought that was the easiest question, but

927
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: it was incorrect. That's the incorrect answer. It is not

928
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:59,439
Speaker 1: Kevin Green. Wow, Kevin Green is a Hall of Fame

929
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 1: pass Rush. Well, did you say Kevin or Devon? Doesn't matter.

930
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: I didn't say the right answer. We know that, right.

931
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: I can't believe that. All right, let's get another one

932
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: on the on the line. I am literally, I mean,

933
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: these are not layups. These are if you woke up

934
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: out of bed and you're still awake, you should be

935
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 1: able to answer. I think I think the first couple

936
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: were pretty tough, and you got wow. I mean, I honestly,

937
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: if you get past the first two, you are smooth sale.

938
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: And unless you're simply, I don't know, you crumbled. I

939
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: haven't been that a crumb appointed since because my parents

940
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 1: told me that. All right, this is a dark show.

941
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: All right, we got somebody else on line. I'm honestly

942
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: a little bit stunned right now, and I'm trying to

943
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: be professional, but all right, who's who's on the line.

944
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: We've got Ryan from Los Angeles? Right, Ryan, Yes, that's me.

945
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: I mean Colin could have been jets Pat. I'm sorry.

946
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: Before are you caught? You're very lucky. The caller before

947
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: you could not have been any closer to winning the tickets.

948
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: But now you've got a chance. I'm gonna it. Sounds

949
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: like it's downstairs in our news room. All right, who's

950
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 1: this Ryan from Los Angeles? Al Right, here we go, Ryan, Um,

951
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: you are a fortunate man. The contest goes on four questions,

952
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: and Roy, you gotta get right you ready, I'm ready,

953
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: let's do it. The Houston Texans lost two key defensive

954
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: players to season ending injuries and Sunday nights lost to

955
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Name them. That will be J. J. Watt

956
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 1: and Whitney merciless for this quarterback has started games with

957
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: three different NFC teams since being selected first overall in

958
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: the two thousand ten NFL Draft. Uh, Sam Bradford very good?

959
00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 1: Halfway home? All right? This is the UH around the

960
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: NFL podcast question. Who is John Gonzalez? John Gonzalez is

961
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: Colleen Wolfe's husband. Yeah, you never know. Alright, we're back

962
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 1: where we started. That's how he describes himself to just

963
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: generally when he's walking John Gonzalo. You know her from

964
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 1: all the NFL network shows. Ryan, who's your team? I'm sorry,

965
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,280
Speaker 1: who's your team? I sit on the throne of ease,

966
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: he could to Patriots a Jets fan. Now of the

967
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 1: Patriot you're in l A. Though, Did they have any

968
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 1: West coast trips? I'll check that out for you. Check

969
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: that out. I don't know. Do you did you have anything?

970
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: Have you looked ahead of that much to say what

971
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,240
Speaker 1: game you would target? If you do get this final question?

972
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 1: I think the closest game to l A is in Denver,

973
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: Oakland in week eleven. Then you're fully aware of the

974
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: shadowy League figures did not provide any airfare or lodging

975
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 1: in Mexico season. That's true. That's in Mexico City. Would

976
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: you like to drive to Mexico City. I can't. I

977
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: won't say, all right, here we go. Come on, Ryan,

978
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: you could do this, Ryan. This is an audio clue

979
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 1: for two tickets on the throne of these The Bears

980
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 1: are what we thought they were, what what we thought

981
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 1: they were? We played them in preseason. Who the hell

982
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: takes the third game in the preseason, because both both

983
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: we played him in the third game. Everybody played three

984
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: quarters their bears or who we thought they were. That's

985
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: why we took the damn field. Now, if you want

986
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: to crown them, they crowned her. But they are who

987
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: we thought they were. And we let him out the

988
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: hook answer, who is that? Um, I'm going on on

989
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: a m I'm gonna says, that's correct. This is up

990
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: a super contest. I like that he didn't know that

991
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 1: he won. With all the screaming, thank you, thank you

992
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,400
Speaker 1: for ending this just how it should with a Jets

993
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 1: stand getting as close as you and blowing it, and

994
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: then a Patriots fan taking it home a big victory. Um. Wow, yeah,

995
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 1: the Devin Green was it Kevin Green? Whatever? The previous

996
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 1: the previous collar collar said Kevin Green at the very end,

997
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: So the correct answer is Dennis Green. He was the

998
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 1: at the time, the late Dennis Green. Uh. He was

999
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:03,239
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals head coach after they really blew a

1000
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: game against the Bears. So there you go. Ryan from

1001
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: l A wins two tickets. The first ever subreddit super

1002
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: contest is in the books. Congratulations Ryan, Um, stay on

1003
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 1: the line with um Um loose cannon. She'll help you

1004
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: out with the details and what you need to know

1005
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: to find out. But congratulations, buddy, great job. Thank you

1006
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: for our you know, collective misery. Well, Greg, Um, what

1007
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: what did you learn about the idea of rewarding listeners

1008
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: for how much they love our show? I hope you

1009
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 1: learned that that it's good to reach out to the

1010
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 1: listeners and and share moments with them like that that

1011
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: special moment the Ryan just had, that's true. I mean

1012
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: you could have just given them the tickets. That would

1013
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 1: have been a special moment like call why not? Yeah,

1014
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,280
Speaker 1: you don't need to get through so so many hoops

1015
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 1: you can act like monkeys for your entertainment, right, Okay, Greg,

1016
00:54:54,400 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 1: good job. That is the Subreddit Super Contest two thousand seventeen.

1017
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: Good News will be back in Buddy, all right, what

1018
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: drama here? Uh? In Studio sixties six. We have to

1019
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 1: get going now. But just a reminder that the live

1020
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: stream of the this episode uh is on NFL dot

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00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: com slash a t N video. You could check it

1022
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: out starting at six pm Pacific Pacific, nine pm Eastern

1023
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: elsewhere in the world. Figure it out. And also a

1024
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 1: reminder that NFL Pick Them. Our show on NFL Network

1025
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Speaker 1: airs on Saturdays at nine am Eastern, two pm Eastern,

1026
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 1: and eleven pm Eastern, and then Sunday morning once more

1027
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Speaker 1: at six am Eastern where we actually lead into Countie

1028
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Speaker 1: Fox in the game Day Morning Crew. UH. So, thank

1029
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: you everybody for listening, Thank you for being a part

1030
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 1: of the subreddit super Contest. We uh the turnout was

1031
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 1: really great and we love interfacing with you guys, so

1032
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 1: thank you for being part of that. And let's go.

1033
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Speaker 1: This is Da Hansas signing off four Quiet Storm, Connie Fox,

1034
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: the Old Boss, Loose Cannon behind the Glass, and everybody else.

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Speaker 1: Christian Finger on the trigger till Thursday m