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Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 8: I did my fan report and I finished it about
Speaker 8: five minutes to noon, and I said, oh good, just
Speaker 8: in time. And I came flying over here and it
Speaker 8: was empty and.
Speaker 7: Dark Man in dark we talked about that that I.
Speaker 8: Forgot, and it was like, oh yeah, we don't have
Speaker 8: a show today.
Speaker 6: So you conducted your own show.
Speaker 8: Yes, it's also another big day to day. By the way,
Speaker 8: I needed I meant to say this Wednesday when I
Speaker 8: found out and I forgot.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 8: The ARP Independent School District in Texas a RP are not.
Speaker 8: They have proclaimed today Demarvian Overshown Day in honor of
Speaker 8: their ARP tiger to show him support for the surgery
Speaker 8: he's gonna.
Speaker 2: Have to go.
Speaker 8: So they're telling all the kids in school, whatever grade,
Speaker 8: the staff to wear a Demarvian overshown jersey T shirt
Speaker 8: and Cowboy anything cowboy apparel, and blue and white.
Speaker 6: He always loves wearing a black and to wear.
Speaker 8: Blue and white apparel to show support for their ARP Tiger.
Speaker 8: I thought that was pretty neat. Only small town Texas
Speaker 8: do you see something like that.
Speaker 6: ARP is a population of about eight hundred and ninety
Speaker 6: two or something.
Speaker 8: I think I saw less than a thousand.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it was nine hundred when I saw
Speaker 8: the census taken in two in twenty twenty, so it's
Speaker 8: probably gone down since then.
Speaker 7: Isn't it amazing how you catch a talent like that
Speaker 7: in a small in a small town that's amazing.
Speaker 8: And emerges and goes to, how does the University of
Speaker 8: Texas find this kid?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 7: He must so he must have played six man football
Speaker 7: like Campbell or somebody. Yeah, because it's so small.
Speaker 6: He wasn't under armour all American coming out.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 8: So but anyway, yeah, so we should have sent our
Speaker 8: song to to the ARP school district. They could have
Speaker 8: played it when they after they did the the schools
Speaker 8: still still do the national I mean the pledge allegiance
Speaker 8: before school.
Speaker 6: I think they can still do that. They can't. It's okay.
Speaker 6: The population of ARP in the twenty twenty census eight
Speaker 6: hundred ninety two.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw that.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so all right, so much we throw that out there.
Speaker 8: They I don't think they've scheduled his surgery yet.
Speaker 5: It's going to be soon.
Speaker 8: And then Zach Martin had his yesterday on his ankle.
Speaker 6: By the way, and this maybe think of you bringing
Speaker 6: up overshow made me think of this? The San Francisco
Speaker 6: game last night, Dre Greenlaw returned yea and Greenlaw had
Speaker 6: the achilles problem injury at coming off the sideline after
Speaker 6: a big play in the Super Bowl, and so it
Speaker 6: took him this long to get back. So he gets
Speaker 6: back last night, and he's playing really well the first
Speaker 6: half of the game, and then he leaves with an injury,
Speaker 6: and then and then and then, kids, have you heard
Speaker 6: the story?
Speaker 2: I have not? All right?
Speaker 6: And this relates back to the Cowboys and Eric Kendricks
Speaker 6: as a matter of fact, because if you go back
Speaker 6: to free agency, you know Eric Kendricks. Well, first off,
Speaker 6: last night, de Andre Campbell, who has been starting. He
Speaker 6: basically was the replacement for Dray Greenlaw alongside Fred Warner.
Speaker 8: For thirteen games. He played ninety percent of the set.
Speaker 6: Okay, so he's been a starter all year. Well, when
Speaker 6: Greenlaw comes back, he's ready to play. Well, there's no
Speaker 6: room at the end anymore for Campbell on the field,
Speaker 6: and so he was the backup last night. Well, then
Speaker 6: Greenlaw gets hurt in the third quarter of the game
Speaker 6: something like that, and Campbell says, I'm not going to
Speaker 6: the game.
Speaker 8: I don't have this, I don't want to play. Not
Speaker 8: only that, he puts a towel over his head and
Speaker 8: walks to the locker room.
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, So what's this guy's history.
Speaker 6: Man, he's got and he's been a really good player,
Speaker 6: I mean Pro Bowl player in his career.
Speaker 8: Seven I think I seen maybe played for thirty one
Speaker 8: thirty one.
Speaker 7: Okay, he's thirty one acting like this because years thirty
Speaker 7: one one, you know the game, you know how it goes.
Speaker 2: A starter gets injured, you replace him.
Speaker 7: When he comes back, most likely he's going to get
Speaker 7: his job back. And green Law is a player that
Speaker 7: deserves that because he's a baller. I mean, he's a
Speaker 7: little bit over the top, but that's what you want
Speaker 7: on a team like the forty niners.
Speaker 8: You should have heard Shanahan's postgame prescnference.
Speaker 5: It was like blood was sitting out of his mouth.
Speaker 6: And then George Kittle in the locker room aster.
Speaker 8: But let me just give you five words or four
Speaker 8: words with Kittle said ignorant, dumb, stupid, immature that those
Speaker 8: were in sentences.
Speaker 2: He would know, Killer would know.
Speaker 8: And he said he was unaware of what took place
Speaker 8: because they were playing the game right, and he goes,
Speaker 8: if I had known, I probably would have had something
Speaker 8: to say.
Speaker 7: Oh I'm surprised someone else didn't have something to say about.
Speaker 6: That was a first team All Pro linebacker for the
Speaker 6: Packers in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 7: It's got this is something that has to off the field.
Speaker 7: This is something that has it had nothing to do
Speaker 7: with football. I mean, you can use that, but to
Speaker 7: have an attitude like that all of a sudden, was
Speaker 7: he promised something or he must have thought that he
Speaker 7: was wronged in such a way to what he.
Speaker 2: Felt justified in walking off that field.
Speaker 7: Not saying that it's valid, right, but something in his
Speaker 7: head said this is not right.
Speaker 2: Well, and for a veteran at thirty one years old.
Speaker 5: You're being logical.
Speaker 7: I'm trying to be because you know, there's always kind
Speaker 7: of different situations that go with people and how they
Speaker 7: think and things of that nature. But uniformly, universally, football
Speaker 7: players realize that when the starter comes back, then he
Speaker 7: gets a chance to play. Ask when Troy came back, right,
Speaker 7: who was a quarterback? I'm sorry, what's his name? Old
Speaker 7: school quarterback? De Troy came back for the Detroit lot
Speaker 7: to play against the Lions. Steve Burlin line baw line
Speaker 7: didn't he didn't walk off the practice field when.
Speaker 8: He found out that was the second quarter of the game. Still,
Speaker 8: you know he started the game.
Speaker 6: Yeah, But going back to the Kendricks story, you know
Speaker 6: Kendricks on the day he signed agreed to sign with
Speaker 6: the Cowboys earlier that day, he agreed to sign with
Speaker 6: the forty nine ers, and and so he was going
Speaker 6: to be So that's how Campbell got the job with
Speaker 6: the forty nine ers is Kendricks decided he wanted to
Speaker 6: be the middle linebacker for Mike Zimmer here in Dallas
Speaker 6: rather than being a plan alongside Fred Warner there. And
Speaker 6: so Kendricks would have been in that same position had
Speaker 6: he gone ahead and sign with the Niners. When Greenlaw
Speaker 6: came back today, Kendricks would have been the guy probably
Speaker 6: on the sideline. I guarantee you Kendricks is going into
Speaker 6: the game.
Speaker 8: But anyway, so I think finally at the end, Shanahan said,
Speaker 8: we don't need to talk about him anymore.
Speaker 5: Just like that, he doesn't exist, has been.
Speaker 6: Here's the thing on that, though, I wouldn't release him
Speaker 6: because now he's not gonna get picked up by another
Speaker 6: team with the suspend him that's put him, which is
Speaker 6: what you did they did with Deontay Johnson when he
Speaker 6: refused to So this is the second time it's happened
Speaker 6: in the last week.
Speaker 8: So you can't you can't go in clear waivers and
Speaker 8: you're not getting paid when you get put on that list.
Speaker 6: Basically, they've opted out.
Speaker 5: That's unbelievable. Now, the game was unbelievable. Well, well he'll starting.
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 7: I'm sure he realizes that he has really cut his
Speaker 7: ties with almost any team.
Speaker 6: But what would you do if you're his agent, you're
Speaker 6: going to drop him. No, if you're his agent, what
Speaker 6: you're doing right now is you're telling him, well, you
Speaker 6: need to do it last night. Yeah, but you are
Speaker 6: in that building this morning. You're there before Kyle Shanahan
Speaker 6: and John Lynch walk in the building and you're saying
Speaker 6: and you apologize, and you are you asked for a
Speaker 6: couple of minutes before the team the next time the
Speaker 6: team gets together to talk to the team, just so
Speaker 6: you can get another Now, maybe he didn't want to
Speaker 6: play again in the NFL. Maybe he walked off the field.
Speaker 6: He wants to play, but he's been if he wants
Speaker 6: to play for another team, even that's that's what he
Speaker 6: agree with.
Speaker 8: That he just committed professionals.
Speaker 2: He really did, He really did.
Speaker 7: I mean, there's a chance for a guy to come back,
Speaker 7: it's no doubt about it.
Speaker 2: But why make it so difficult for yourself?
Speaker 8: So do you like a game played in storm, pouring
Speaker 8: down rain, stupid.
Speaker 6: I saw a video yesterday and it was I think
Speaker 6: it was like the anniversary of Gail Sear's six touchdown
Speaker 6: game with the Chicago Bears field no. And that's what
Speaker 6: made me think of that. It was so money and
Speaker 6: I was like, you know, I'd love to watch a
Speaker 6: game where our team actually plays in the mud like that.
Speaker 6: Every player on the field was just caked in mud. Yeah,
Speaker 6: back then, that's what you call it a slow track.
Speaker 7: When you see six touchdowns in the mud, that's exciting.
Speaker 7: When you see this game in the movie, Well.
Speaker 6: We didn't know any different.
Speaker 8: Right, right, unbelievable twelve to six, And so.
Speaker 2: Now here we are if if if ans and butts right.
Speaker 6: And that's how on the heels of game for both
Speaker 6: the forty nine ers and the Rams. The Rams just
Speaker 6: came off a game in which they were it was
Speaker 6: maybe the most exciting game, the highest scoring game of
Speaker 6: the season against the Bills forty four forty two, and
Speaker 6: then the the Niners scored thirty eight points against Chicago
Speaker 6: on Sunday, and four days later it's a twelve to
Speaker 6: six field goal game. And by the way, how about
Speaker 6: the Rams and what that's Sean McVay. This is now
Speaker 6: the second straight year that I think that they started
Speaker 6: one and four this year, and I think they started
Speaker 6: one and four last year too, And if they do
Speaker 6: make the playoffs, it'd be the first time ever that
Speaker 6: a team has started one and four two straight years
Speaker 6: and made it.
Speaker 2: To the playoffs.
Speaker 5: I think I just looked it up.
Speaker 8: They've won like five of their last six.
Speaker 6: Or five, so I think it's seven out of nine.
Speaker 6: Was one in four start and they're eight and six now.
Speaker 2: Man, that just makes me even more pissed off.
Speaker 8: So with the results on their heels, with the results
Speaker 8: of those games.
Speaker 6: They do have a healthy quarterback.
Speaker 8: There's five teams now ahead of the Cowboys for that
Speaker 8: third wild cards. Washington leads at eight and five. The
Speaker 8: Rams are eight and six. Playoffs Arizona, Arizona.
Speaker 7: Some of them I would have this last week, you
Speaker 7: know what I mean. Right now, it's just like numbers.
Speaker 8: I should say they're six because numbers in seven.
Speaker 2: And let you talk about somebody that's just dropping like
Speaker 2: a rock.
Speaker 6: We're just trying to win a game.
Speaker 8: And even the Saints are ahead of the Cowboys at
Speaker 8: five and eight because.
Speaker 2: They be the Cowboys.
Speaker 8: So yeah, I can't can't lose a game?
Speaker 2: Yeah last week?
Speaker 8: No, I mean now, no, I mean last week?
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Well yeah, yeah, they gotta they gotta win out and
Speaker 8: hope Washington and everybody else loses at least two or
Speaker 8: three games.
Speaker 2: You think Philly will help us out.
Speaker 6: The Washington wins another game.
Speaker 8: Now that gets to nine. Okay, so you could tie them,
Speaker 8: that's right. But if they win two to.
Speaker 6: Get to ten, they're done. The magic numbers are if.
Speaker 8: They win and the Cowboys lose any game, they're done,
Speaker 8: right right.
Speaker 2: We're not done already.
Speaker 6: No, no, there's mathematics ever sing, Come on, get fired up,
Speaker 6: all right? Before we go to break, Before we go
Speaker 6: to break, I gotta get Everson's opinion on the story
Speaker 6: that broke since we last convened. And that's your former
Speaker 6: coach Bill belbachak now the head coach of the North
Speaker 6: Carolina tar Heels.
Speaker 2: That's crazy, man. I never would have thought it.
Speaker 7: I would think that he would come here before he
Speaker 7: would do college football.
Speaker 2: I would have thought that initially, and then the job
Speaker 2: isn't open. Well I would have waited if I was.
Speaker 6: Him, Well, if he waits then that job's not available
Speaker 6: because the transfer but the transfer portal is open now
Speaker 6: and so it has to that and it closes before
Speaker 6: the NFL.
Speaker 7: And that's why he had regards now. So the timing
Speaker 7: wasn't there for him. But I guess when you're at
Speaker 7: that age, if I was telling my son, is he
Speaker 7: going through his second childhood or what's going on?
Speaker 2: Because usually you get coaches who are coming, you.
Speaker 7: Know, out of high school or with another college, and
Speaker 7: they're younger coaches that come in and say, I want
Speaker 7: to try college football. I want to go to University
Speaker 7: of North Carolina.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't think someone with his experience.
Speaker 6: Which is exclusively in professional football. He even go back
Speaker 6: to when he first started his college his coaching career,
Speaker 6: it was all in the National Football and the professional
Speaker 6: football National Football.
Speaker 7: He worked with West Point at one Parcells did I know.
Speaker 2: Don't know?
Speaker 8: And his father, father is there coach that he was
Speaker 8: an assistant at North Carolina.
Speaker 6: Okay, and he was at West Point.
Speaker 7: And I thought that Bill had actually tried to coach
Speaker 7: with him there or something like that, the way his
Speaker 7: son did with Bill.
Speaker 8: But no, you know, interesting thing that he said was
Speaker 8: the year he spent out the football. He said because
Speaker 8: of some of the changes in college like the green dot,
Speaker 8: the communication with the players, and a few other things
Speaker 8: that he had college coaches coming to him and ask him, so,
Speaker 8: how did you deal with How did this all work out?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 8: And he said it kind of piqued his interest of well,
Speaker 8: I know about that stuff in college football now. The
Speaker 8: other thing, somebody is like, well, can you imagine him
Speaker 8: going and recruiting. I'm thinking he has guys that recruit,
Speaker 8: no doubt, and all they got to say is do
Speaker 8: you want to play for Bill Belichick? He doesn't have
Speaker 8: to go make for that's how much money you're gonna
Speaker 8: pay me?
Speaker 5: Well and that too.
Speaker 7: And see, I think that's what makes Bill a little
Speaker 7: more comfortable is because now college for balls like pro.
Speaker 6: Football, he doesn't have to recruit so much money.
Speaker 2: You got more familiar.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 7: He would be really adept at dealing with the portal.
Speaker 8: I mean, he already had an N I L in
Speaker 8: the NFL, right.
Speaker 7: Right, So that's that's all I'm saying. And so when
Speaker 7: it comes to him feeling comfortable in that this new
Speaker 7: uh n C A a world, I think it's more
Speaker 7: like a professional game now, and I think that may
Speaker 7: have made him feel a little bit more comfortable and going.
Speaker 5: Into exactly Yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean he's already hired his general manager, Mike Lombardy,
Speaker 8: because that's what they're doing now in college. So they
Speaker 8: have somebody ahead of uh who was the former.
Speaker 6: Quarterback and just got started as GM at Stanford.
Speaker 2: What yes, with football, you got a shot pro football.
Speaker 6: This is a GM job and uh and Belichick has he
Speaker 6: has coached exclusively in professional football going back to nineteen
Speaker 6: seventy five, so it's forty nine years as a coach.
Speaker 6: This was the first year that he has not coached.
Speaker 6: His first job was a special assistant with the Baltimore
Speaker 6: Colts in nineteen seventy five, and then he was with
Speaker 6: the Lions for a couple of years, the Broncos for
Speaker 6: a year, and then with a Giant starting in nineteen
Speaker 6: seventy nine.
Speaker 8: Where did he go to college.
Speaker 6: He went to Wesleyan College in Ohio.
Speaker 5: Right, there's an Illinois, Western.
Speaker 6: Connecticut, Middletown, Connecticut, the Wesleyan.
Speaker 9: Cardinals, Connecticut. But anyway, Yeah, that's my thought on that.
Speaker 9: It's the pros now men, right, and he's probably one
Speaker 9: of the few now college coaches that could be really
Speaker 9: good at just putting players in.
Speaker 8: So I saw one of the coach runs said that
Speaker 8: we're going to treat the college game like a professional game.
Speaker 8: We're going to have a professional system here, and.
Speaker 7: That's the way all of them. If you want to
Speaker 7: be successful, then you should all do that.
Speaker 8: From a peril to nutrition, the whole bit pay.
Speaker 2: That's my opinion that Chile Hall and how.
Speaker 6: His father, Steve Belichick coached at the Naval Academy, but
Speaker 6: he was at North Carolina, as you mentioned, from nineteen
Speaker 6: fifty three to fifty five, when Bill Belichick was one
Speaker 6: to three years old.
Speaker 8: I was going to say he was born probably a
Speaker 8: year before as dad coached it.
Speaker 2: So there you go.
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Speaker 6: All Right, we're good Cowboys and Carolina Panthers. What are
Speaker 6: your thoughts Mickey on this matchup?
Speaker 8: Well, Carolina, what were they like? One in ten? They
Speaker 8: found something to play for after going two and fifteen
Speaker 8: last year, won two games in a row. Granted it
Speaker 8: was the Giants and the Saints, but then the three
Speaker 8: games they lost were two division leaders. Lost three points
Speaker 8: to Kansas City and I didn't realize this. I knew
Speaker 8: they lost three points to the Bucks, but it was
Speaker 8: an overtime game. And then they lose by six to
Speaker 8: Kansas City that had to come back and I mean
Speaker 8: to the Eagles that had to come back in the
Speaker 8: fourth quarter to take the lead. And then there they
Speaker 8: were throwing a pass to the three yard line and
Speaker 8: if the get holds onto the ball, they're going to
Speaker 8: take the lead with an extra point.
Speaker 7: He dropped a couple of passes doing that during the
Speaker 7: whole game too, and they lose by six points.
Speaker 8: So you know, they found something to play for. And
Speaker 8: I guarantee you this game's really important to them because
Speaker 8: it's the Dallas Cowboys so you know, you better not
Speaker 8: go limping in there feeling sorry for yourself because that
Speaker 8: team's still playing and good for them, yep.
Speaker 7: And they have always hung their hat on good defense, right,
Speaker 7: that's the one thing that you know, those guys a
Speaker 7: little frustrated on defensive side, But once they came back
Speaker 7: with Bryce Young and his renewed vigor or whatever you
Speaker 7: want to call it. This guy's out there talking about
Speaker 7: playing for something. He's the one that's really playing for something,
Speaker 7: and it seems like the entire team is rallying around
Speaker 7: his efforts because he really has extended drives, he's extended
Speaker 7: plays with some really good heads up thoughts that he's
Speaker 7: put in his head.
Speaker 8: Well, it seems like he's sort of figured this game
Speaker 8: out that at the first sign of danger, you don't
Speaker 8: have to take off and run. You extend the play
Speaker 8: with your feet and keep your eyes down the field
Speaker 8: throwing the football. And that's kind of worked out for him.
Speaker 2: And once again the defense is getting.
Speaker 8: Defenses, giving them chances and they're running the ball.
Speaker 2: With that.
Speaker 7: He's no joke, right, Yeah, we're gonna have to deal
Speaker 7: with that guy.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have to deal with it at all.
Speaker 8: He went for ninety two rushing against the Eagles.
Speaker 7: So and he earned every yacht he saw that game,
Speaker 7: he earned every yacht.
Speaker 8: So this is you know, when you're sitting there going
Speaker 8: scratching your head, going, well, the odds maker made them
Speaker 8: two and a half point favorites. Well, and they're also
Speaker 8: probably counting on the Cowboys on a short week not
Speaker 8: getting over the devastation. Well, I don't know devastation, but
Speaker 8: no heartbreaking loss might devastate.
Speaker 2: That was the station the hopes and dreams. Yeah, just
Speaker 2: falling out of your hands.
Speaker 6: Cuba Hubbard, fourth year out of Oklahoma State, has oney
Speaker 6: eleven yards rushing this season. He's averaging four point seven
Speaker 6: yards of carry and most importantly for him, he just
Speaker 6: earned his second contract in the league. They just extended
Speaker 6: him four years, thirty three million dollars now extended through
Speaker 6: the twenty twenty seven season. That's how they did. It's
Speaker 6: what they think of him.
Speaker 5: This week.
Speaker 6: We're here in the last couple of weeks. Yeah, what
Speaker 6: Carolina did you know? Bryce Young was sacked sixty two
Speaker 6: times last year. Okay, and what Carolina did in the
Speaker 6: off season, they shored up the interior of their offensive line.
Speaker 6: By signing Robert Hunt and free agency an offensive guard
Speaker 6: Mickey five years, one hundred million dollars. Would you give
Speaker 6: an offensive guard five.
Speaker 8: If it's Zach Martin?
Speaker 6: Do you think Nate and Frisco would? Oh yeah, Nate, okay?
Speaker 5: And then.
Speaker 6: And that they weren't done there. They gave Damian Lewis
Speaker 6: another free agent offensive guard of four years, fifty three million,
Speaker 6: twenty six million guarantee. So that's how they shored things up.
Speaker 6: And how many times has Bryce Young been sacked this season?
Speaker 6: He's played in ten games, eight starts. He's been sacked
Speaker 6: fifteen times, down from sixty two sacks last year in
Speaker 6: sixteen games.
Speaker 7: He hadn't even played the entire seaieson right ten games, right, So.
Speaker 6: He's basically on a pace to be set on a
Speaker 6: full season thirty. They cut the sacks in half, basically,
Speaker 6: that's what they've done so and one of the big
Speaker 6: things on their defense and now they ranked last in
Speaker 6: the league in points allowed, last in the league in
Speaker 6: rush defense. But the huge thing we talked to Will
Speaker 6: McLay about it when he did his segment for the
Speaker 6: Mike McCarthy Show yesterday. They when they lost Derek Brown,
Speaker 6: first week of the season. I mean, he's a Pro
Speaker 6: Bowl type defensive tackle and when they lost him to
Speaker 6: a meniscus injury, that really hurt their defense. And because
Speaker 6: Ashawn Robinson, there's another veteran defensive tackle that they signed.
Speaker 6: He's been playing. As Will said yesterday, he's been playing
Speaker 6: really well this season. And if they could have had
Speaker 6: both of those guys in there, that would have helped
Speaker 6: imntally defensively, and you.
Speaker 7: Know, defensively, as much as we I was giving them credit,
Speaker 7: the offense has really put them in some bad positions,
Speaker 7: especially starting at the beginning of the season. Then they
Speaker 7: had another quarterback and that didn't work out so well,
Speaker 7: and that very Young. I think it gave the offense
Speaker 7: the defense a chance to realize what it's like to
Speaker 7: play with a veteran quarterback.
Speaker 2: But once he got injured, I think.
Speaker 7: Black Young came in and he saw what Dalton was doing,
Speaker 7: and I think he's trying to mimic.
Speaker 2: That, but just with a little bit more athleticism and accuracy.
Speaker 5: You know, you don't have to win the game.
Speaker 2: He could see Dad on the sidelines.
Speaker 6: Shaq Thompson also got hurt at linebacker and that hurt
Speaker 6: him a lot. Yeah, they do have Jadavian Clowney over there,
Speaker 6: do they, uh huh? Number seven. He didn't play last
Speaker 6: week against Philadelphia, but he's been a full participant this week.
Speaker 8: He's got a few sacks I think, yeah, I think
Speaker 8: three and a half sets, say three.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And then j C. Horn at cornerback. He's the guy
Speaker 6: that in the Mica drafted that the Cowboys were looking at,
Speaker 6: and they just drafted him before the Cowboys came up.
Speaker 6: And if they hadn't drafted, even Cowboys might have drafted
Speaker 6: j C. Horn.
Speaker 8: And you know on this team, white receiver Legette, you
Speaker 8: got to cover him. You never know when he's going
Speaker 8: to catch him. I like you used to say about
Speaker 8: Alexander Wright, he said, why do you keep putting them
Speaker 8: out there? He goes, Well, somebody's got to cover because
Speaker 8: you never know what he's gonna catch.
Speaker 6: For the one guy who will catch him is at
Speaker 6: I'm feeling yeah, he's back healthy.
Speaker 7: See, you've got those the three veterans right there in
Speaker 7: key situations that can keep this this team you know, stable, yeah,
Speaker 7: so to speak. And they had a great game against
Speaker 7: the Eagles, yep.
Speaker 2: And you know.
Speaker 7: He's been doing it pretty much when he's got an
Speaker 7: opportunity to do it.
Speaker 6: So they got they got a mix of veterans with
Speaker 6: rookies like Xavier Legette uh and like their tidy ends
Speaker 6: of tavi On Sanders from Texas out of Denton Ryan
Speaker 6: High School. Yeah, and but their rookies. And so I
Speaker 6: think I think the things are setting up well for
Speaker 6: Carolina going forward because of what they're doing. It's it's
Speaker 6: a rebuilding trend, yeah, right, and that they're showing signs
Speaker 6: of it here the last five weeks.
Speaker 8: The Charlotte Observer decided that they needed to point out
Speaker 8: the number of wide receivers the Panthers have drafted or
Speaker 8: acquired since twenty ten. And the reason they did it
Speaker 8: is because Mingo's coming back. So he's one of thirteen
Speaker 8: receivers they've had since twenty ten and Legette is the
Speaker 8: only one still there.
Speaker 5: Wow, because and Mingo.
Speaker 8: So they said, okay, Mingo's gone. So they go all
Speaker 8: the way back to Well, they had Curtis Samuel, right,
Speaker 8: they parted ways with him.
Speaker 6: He went to Washington. Now he's at Buffalo.
Speaker 8: They traded Dj Moore to Chicago for the number one pick.
Speaker 8: They got Bryce Young they had I forgot his first name.
Speaker 6: LaFell, the wide receiver, Brandon LaFell.
Speaker 8: I think he was a first round draft choice. Amani Edwards,
Speaker 8: Brandon Lafeld, Brandon Laffeld, Calvin Benjamin by the way.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they turned into a tighty end later in life,
Speaker 6: Terrace Marshall, the.
Speaker 8: Kid from l s U. Mingo, and they just went
Speaker 8: through all these guys.
Speaker 5: I thought it was.
Speaker 8: So other people have problems drafting too, by the way,
Speaker 8: but yeah, Legette is the only one still there. Mingo
Speaker 8: was there and now he's here, and he he was
Speaker 8: pretty good. Somebody somebody asked him about, uh, you know,
Speaker 8: are you all fired up to go back and play
Speaker 8: your former team that traded you away? And he goes,
Speaker 8: you know what, he goes, I'm fired up just to play.
Speaker 8: He goes, I'm not a guy that carries grudges, And
Speaker 8: I think that's healthy. Yeah, I mean, you know, he
Speaker 8: had twenty four games there and you know, didn't give
Speaker 8: him what they wanted for whatever reason, and they trade
Speaker 8: him away for a fourth round pick. So now you
Speaker 8: and he said, well now I got a chance here and.
Speaker 2: There you go, you know what, you look at now.
Speaker 8: So yeah, and he goes, now, I got a chance here,
Speaker 8: and we'll see how it works out. So anyway, I
Speaker 8: thought that was interer a seeing all the wide receivers there.
Speaker 7: But I promise you, when he goes in there, there
Speaker 7: will be a little there'll be a little.
Speaker 5: Bit of I want to show that.
Speaker 8: Well, that's just like going to play against your friends,
Speaker 8: right you.
Speaker 5: My friend.
Speaker 2: I can't let my friends shut me down, no doubt.
Speaker 8: I remember a little small peanut league or whatever baseball.
Speaker 8: I got to pitch to my best friend and I
Speaker 8: hit him.
Speaker 5: No, I was not a pitcher.
Speaker 8: There was no way they should have had me pitching.
Speaker 7: I'm glad you turned out to be affiliated with sports
Speaker 7: some kind of way, because you really tried.
Speaker 8: As a kid, I was pretty good, Yeah, until I
Speaker 8: got older.
Speaker 2: Everybody else got a curve ball.
Speaker 8: They shouldn't have been throwing curveballs, manold outlaw, right, all right,
Speaker 8: they might do that in baseball.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 6: Uh, it's our picks to click and who was Who's
Speaker 6: gonna win on Sunday when shots continues in a moment.
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Speaker 6: All Right, we're diving into the Carolina Panthers. We got
Speaker 6: our picks to click Who's gonna win on Sunday? And
Speaker 6: during the break, I was just recounting to Everson and
Speaker 6: Mickey about the Carolina Panthers history the last oh seven
Speaker 6: eight years or so. Of course, uh, And this goes
Speaker 6: back to when Cam Newton was their quarterback and Ron
Speaker 6: Rivera their head coach. It also coincides with when David
Speaker 6: Tepper bought the team in May of twenty eighteen eighteen.
Speaker 6: The Panthers went seven and nine and that was the
Speaker 6: last year that Newton was at quarterback and Ron Rivera
Speaker 6: was the head coach. Rivera was still there in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 6: They went five and eleven. So now things are going
Speaker 6: to get better. We're going to get rid of this
Speaker 6: coach and we're going to bring in another coach. So
Speaker 6: they brought in Matt Ruhle and they went five and eleven,
Speaker 6: five and twelve, they went seven and ten. They fired
Speaker 6: him in mid season and Steve Wilkes took over. In
Speaker 6: the twenty twenty two season, Baker Mayfield was their quarterback
Speaker 6: and by the way, okay, here's let me run down
Speaker 6: the quarterback. And twenty twenty, Teddy Bridgewater was their quarterback.
Speaker 6: They went five and eleven. You know what Teddy Bridgewater's
Speaker 6: doing now? You know what he's doing now coaching. He's
Speaker 6: a very successful high school head coach, Northwestern High School
Speaker 6: in Miami, which is a powerful perus. It is, yeah, yes,
Speaker 6: it is, all right. So then Sam Darnold becomes the
Speaker 6: quarterback in twenty twenty one. What's he doing now?
Speaker 8: Trying to win the mission titles.
Speaker 6: He's eleven and two right now? Oh, they went five
Speaker 6: and twelve. Okay. In twenty twenty two, that's when they
Speaker 6: had a coaching change. Baker Mayfield was a quarterback. They
Speaker 6: went seven and ten. What's Baker doing? He leaves the division.
Speaker 6: Twenty twenty three, they bring in Frank Reich and they
Speaker 6: fired him after about six games after he drafted Bryce
Speaker 6: Young and they went two and fifteen. And now this
Speaker 6: year with Dave Canalis as their head coach, they're three
Speaker 6: and ten and with Bryce's with Bryce in his second year.
Speaker 6: So anyway, there's your history, the David Tepper ownership of
Speaker 6: the Carolina Panthers. All right, so what are you thinking.
Speaker 8: I'm thinking, I'm thinking, Canalis better win a few more games?
Speaker 7: I'm thinking we better get ready to stop Hubbard. That's
Speaker 7: what I'm thinking, Cuba Hubbard. I do like what Bryce
Speaker 7: Young is doing, but he's still playing off of his team,
Speaker 7: which is good. You want your young quarterback to play
Speaker 7: off his team. I think in order for us to
Speaker 7: stop this team, we're gonna have to stop that running game.
Speaker 7: We really need to force Bryce Young to carry the day.
Speaker 2: And if we do that, I think we'll be in
Speaker 2: good shape. So my.
Speaker 7: Score is going to be twenty five to twenty.
Speaker 2: Eight cowboy eight. Yeah, that's my own thing.
Speaker 6: That's backwards. Okay, he's not a headline, right right.
Speaker 2: This is not in print. This is not in print. Okay,
Speaker 2: this is just verbal, don't you know.
Speaker 6: Is your wife a sports fan? Mickey would so she
Speaker 6: would never say twenty five to twenty eight, right.
Speaker 7: I'm looking at what our defense is going to do.
Speaker 7: That's why I said twenty five first. Yes, yes, it's
Speaker 7: all coming coming to me. And uh, I think we're
Speaker 7: gonna hold.
Speaker 2: Cuba, Cubauba name.
Speaker 7: We're gonna hold Tuba to under one hundred yards. And
Speaker 7: I think my my pick to click is gonna be Hendricks.
Speaker 7: He's gonna have a great game. I'll look for him
Speaker 7: to Kendricks Kendricks. I look for him to have over
Speaker 7: fifteen tackles in the game. He's gonna he's gonna be
Speaker 7: doing just as well as he did the last game.
Speaker 7: He's gonna carry the day. But also I think, yeah, I.
Speaker 8: Think you have the fifteen tackles, gonna get some of
Speaker 8: them tackles left out there by overshown.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna have to, right, He's gonna have to.
Speaker 2: That's scary. He's gonna have to.
Speaker 7: So, yeah, twenty five to twenty eight, fifteen plus tackles
Speaker 7: for Kendricks.
Speaker 6: And by the way, that is Tuba's given name Cuba.
Speaker 6: It's not a nickname. Was Suba? Ready to ask Suba
Speaker 6: Robert hyphen Shamar Hubbard. You know where he's from?
Speaker 2: Wait? Cuba?
Speaker 6: Cuba? And then the middle name is Robert dash Shamar Hubbard.
Speaker 8: How would you have to put fill out one of
Speaker 8: them form?
Speaker 6: All right? So not enough little boxes? So where's he from?
Speaker 6: I went to Oklahoma State to school, but he's not
Speaker 6: from Oklahoma.
Speaker 2: From the Midwest. He might be.
Speaker 6: Where is Edmonton, Alberta Canada is at the west of Canada. Calgary.
Speaker 8: It's on the way to the north Edmond, Alberta, nor Calgary.
Speaker 2: That's scary. Not but mountains and ice.
Speaker 6: Uh huh. Born in Edmonton, Alberta to a Nigerian father
Speaker 6: and Canadian mother. Wow, so there you go.
Speaker 2: What's his father?
Speaker 5: His father as well, but heating.
Speaker 6: Nigerian father and Canadian mother.
Speaker 5: High school there, he didn't meet her and.
Speaker 6: He went to high school at Sherwood Park in Alberta, Canada.
Speaker 13: Really yes, so the the his dad met his mom
Speaker 13: up and can't have no idea? Come on, you got
Speaker 13: an African up there. It's cold as hill up there, man.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 8: But Alberta is the province, right, yeah, yes, so okay,
Speaker 8: it's yeah, but it's up north, it's close.
Speaker 5: To ed.
Speaker 6: If it's in Canada, it's up north.
Speaker 2: You want to get lost, you go to Canada.
Speaker 8: Uh yeah, all right, might have to, all right?
Speaker 2: May you know.
Speaker 6: That's why Mickey knows all of a sudden knows a
Speaker 6: lot about Canada.
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 8: Looking at my summer vacation in Nova Scotia, got interested?
Speaker 2: Oh my god?
Speaker 6: You know that?
Speaker 8: Well they shouldn't say other than overshown, the defense is
Speaker 8: still kind of got their guys out there. Yeah, since
Speaker 8: Kneeland returned, and and Neiland's really doing a good job,
Speaker 8: and it looks like, you know, Leo File is going
Speaker 8: to take over overshone spot when they found out and
Speaker 8: go to tow linebackers. And you know, he played well
Speaker 8: when he got in there. And now you've got looks
Speaker 8: like unless somebody says they don't want to play your
Speaker 8: three corners out of the field. Yeah, so I think
Speaker 8: the Cowboys can put that two and a half point
Speaker 8: underdog to work. How about Cowboys twenty three to twenty Yeah.
Speaker 6: So I think that's a popular pick by you before.
Speaker 5: Probably I haven't got it right yet.
Speaker 6: But okay, now do you want to know what really
Speaker 6: is going to happen?
Speaker 8: Wait, wait, wait, wait wait, I gotta come out. Okay,
Speaker 8: somebody stand out. It's going to be Michael Parsons.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, Michael, Yeah.
Speaker 6: He used to be off limits.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well he's.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 6: Wins Now Now you didn't want to know what's really
Speaker 6: going to go?
Speaker 2: History?
Speaker 6: We go No, we're not going back here now there's
Speaker 6: no history. You realize this is a homecoming game. Don't
Speaker 6: you for who? For Rico Dowdell. Rico is from Asheville,
Speaker 6: North Carolina. Did you know this about Rico Dowdell. His
Speaker 6: senior year at A. C. Reynolds High School in Asheville,
Speaker 6: North Carolina, they moved him from running back to quarterback.
Speaker 6: And Rico Dowddele ran as a quarterback for twenty five
Speaker 6: hundred yards and passed for fifteen hundred yards and he
Speaker 6: totaled six three touchdowns his senior season at Reynolds High
Speaker 6: School to Ashville, North Carolina thirteen games, that's nearly five
Speaker 6: touchdowns a game. So this is homecoming for Rico Dollar run.
Speaker 8: The show feels a long way from Charlotte.
Speaker 6: It's in North Carolina, North Carolina, Texas. It's as as
Speaker 6: close as he's getting there, although Atlanta might be just
Speaker 6: as close as Charlotte as Nashville. But anyway, that's beside
Speaker 6: the point. It's North Carolina. Okay, Carolina boys going home
Speaker 6: and they're facing the worst rush defense of the National
Speaker 6: Football League. And Rico is coming off two straight one
Speaker 6: hundred yard games. He was winning a career high one
Speaker 6: hundred and thirty one yards last week on Monday Night
Speaker 6: against Cincinnati. So Rico is going off, going back home,
Speaker 6: and we're talking at least two touchdowns for him in
Speaker 6: this game, and he might even throw a touchdown pass
Speaker 6: if the weather conditions are okay, And understand I mentioned it.
Speaker 7: If they have somebody like Bill Bill Jones on their
Speaker 7: staff and figuring that watch out for we he played quarter,
Speaker 7: it's the cat.
Speaker 2: You can throw the ball the catch.
Speaker 6: Out of the bag. Because I mentioned it on the
Speaker 6: Mike McCarthy show, it's going to air and so if
Speaker 6: they watched the Mike McCarthy Show and so, but McCarthy
Speaker 6: downplayed it, said it's going to rain, and so they
Speaker 6: do not have in the game plan from the half
Speaker 6: back lying, yeah, he's lying half back passing the game plan.
Speaker 5: I think the weather poured his softened up.
Speaker 6: So there's a chance. So you're telling me there's a
Speaker 6: chance we could have a half back pass not be
Speaker 6: as expected.
Speaker 8: Okay, were you still doing TV that preseason game when
Speaker 8: it No, I didn't rain. I was not there, and
Speaker 8: we went into about our forty five minute delay for
Speaker 8: a preseason game because it was raining so hard and
Speaker 8: we were already on the air.
Speaker 6: No commercials.
Speaker 8: We interviewed the guy that was in charge of the field.
Speaker 8: I think somebody was on the sideline for the game
Speaker 8: and we had to vamp for almost an hour.
Speaker 5: Can I pick it was?
Speaker 2: It was?
Speaker 6: It was talk radio. So yeah, all right, my pick,
Speaker 6: make your pick. Cowboys win twenty four, twenty three, all right,
Speaker 6: and Rico with two touchdowns.
Speaker 8: Okay, Well you know I got the pick to click
Speaker 8: right two weeks.
Speaker 6: In a row.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not going there.
Speaker 6: And then Rico's gonna do it again this way, all right,
Speaker 6: So they're.
Speaker 2: Not going there. We won't. We don't remember that.
Speaker 6: All right, So where a Parsons?
Speaker 5: I'm hot.
Speaker 6: So we are back for a victory Monday, Yes, at
Speaker 6: high noon. Okay, we're going to play a fight song
Speaker 6: to start the show on Monday. In the meantime, you'll
Speaker 6: have a great States Me Final weekend and we'll see
Speaker 6: you again on Monday.
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