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Speaker 2: Well, that's right, you heard the man that time of week.

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Speaker 2: get dive heavily into the Michigan situation tonight, among other things.

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Speaker 2: That reminds me of a story of a Michigan driver

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Speaker 2: speeding down the freeway when all of a sudden, the

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Speaker 2: highway patrolman pulls up behind him, flashes his lights, and

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Speaker 2: as he approaches the driver or the driver's are upset,

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Speaker 2: he says, what are you giving me a ticket?

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Speaker 3: For?

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Speaker 2: Everybody else side here was speeding also. The officer said, yeah,

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Speaker 2: but you're the only one who pulled over. Well, I

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Speaker 2: get it. It's not a laughing matter, especially if you're

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Speaker 2: a Michigan fan and you're hearing a lot across the airwaves.

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to try to break it down for

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Speaker 2: you ever so quickly, in bite sized pieces. Yes, Tony Pettiti.

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Speaker 2: He suspended Michigan coach Jim Harbaugh for the remainder of

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Speaker 2: the regular season, the final three games, because he believed

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Speaker 2: that he had sufficient evidence that Michigan violated the Sportsmanship

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Speaker 2: Policy by engaging in, by his definition, an impermissible in

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Speaker 2: person scouting operation, which he believes gave Michigan an unfair

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Speaker 2: competitive advantage. Well as we knew what happened. Just a

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Speaker 2: few hours later, Harbaugh and University of Michigan they requested

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Speaker 2: a temporary restraining order in Washington A County. Now, Washington

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Speaker 2: And it was what's called the ex parte emotion, which

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Speaker 2: means the Big ten is not there. It's one party.

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Speaker 2: And if the judge grants this, it would give the

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Speaker 2: judge the ability to stop Harboss's bension before hearing arguments

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Speaker 2: from the defendants. Okay, the defendants being the University of Michigan. Now,

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Speaker 2: I want to lay this out for people because you

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Speaker 2: of all, there are three types of injunctions. There's a

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Speaker 2: permanent injunction, there's a preliminary injunction, and there's what's called

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Speaker 2: a temporary restraining order, which is what Michigan filed, which

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Speaker 2: is essentially the same as a preliminary injunction. And what's

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Speaker 2: an injunction. An injunction is nothing more than a court

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Speaker 2: order that requires a person to refrain from a specific act.

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Speaker 2: If successful, the injunction might allow Jim Harbaugh to be

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Speaker 2: on the sidelines Saturday at noon Eastern against Penn State.

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Speaker 2: The judge is going to have to pour through a

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Speaker 2: as it were. But even if it's not granted in

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Speaker 2: time for Penn State, you still potentially could see Jim

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Speaker 2: and of course against Ohio State. But what has to happen.

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Speaker 2: No one's really talking about that, because for Michigan to

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Speaker 2: be successful at having this temporary restraining order do its job.

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Speaker 2: They're going to have to prove two things. One, they're

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Speaker 2: going to have to prove to the judge that Michigan

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Speaker 2: does in fact have a fighting chance to win this case,

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Speaker 2: that these allegations are not true, and they could present

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Speaker 2: counter evidence to exonerate Michigan as it were. The second

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Speaker 2: thing Michigan's going to have to prove in getting this

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Speaker 2: temporary restraining order granted is that they would, in fact

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Speaker 2: so for irreparable damage as a result of what this

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Speaker 2: restraining order will do. It's not an easy bar. Bottom

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Speaker 2: I consider to be the apex of this story in

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Speaker 2: something that I don't understand that has not been covered

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Speaker 2: journalistically to far more succinct degree. Connor Stallions. Who the

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Speaker 2: hell hired Connor Stallions? How exactly did Connor Stallion's goal

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Speaker 2: from being a super fan to being paid staff at Michigan.

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Speaker 2: Who exactly did Connor Stallions report to? And if they

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Speaker 2: really weren't doing anything wrong, why did he resign or

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Speaker 2: if there wasn't any impropriety into what he was doing.

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Speaker 2: Why wasn't it Connor Stallions game this Saturday against Maryland

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Speaker 2: and the Michigan plays Maryland the following week, and how

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Speaker 2: will be heavily into the Connor Stallion's aspect to this,

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Speaker 2: and it runs a little deeper than you think. By

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Speaker 2: the way, in about ten minutes, we'll welcome in Kevin

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Speaker 2: Bowling or our Fox five local anchor here. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: get into the raider stuff. It's been a pretty eventful

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Speaker 2: ten days there as well, and I'm gonna do something

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Speaker 2: I can find some Michigan a lumps. I want to

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Speaker 2: get your thoughts on this whole ordeal, the timing, how

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Speaker 2: it went down, the whole dynamic, because this is a

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Speaker 2: highly charged emotional issue for multiple reasons. But let's get

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Speaker 2: some other business out of the way as well. There

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Speaker 2: was actually a national football game national Football League game

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Speaker 2: play Thursday night, if you want to call it that

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Speaker 2: just be candid. Last night's game between the Bears and

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Speaker 2: the Panthers sixteen thirteen Bears win. That was bad conceptual football,

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Speaker 2: my friends. We saw five field goals, twelve punts a combined,

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Speaker 2: a combined fifty six percent of the passes completed, only

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Speaker 2: one offensive touchdown, and a miss fifty nine field A

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Speaker 2: missed fifty nine yard field goal at the end. Just

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Speaker 2: for good measure, I think the way to something that

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Speaker 2: game up would be this wow that we watched it.

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Speaker 2: We're football junkies. People bet the game. Some of you,

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Speaker 2: poor knuckleheads, we're so convinced Bears would win, you laid

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Speaker 2: the three and a half. I feel bad for you. However,

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Speaker 2: what's interesting is actions have consequences. Well, wherever you heard that? Okay,

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Speaker 2: Chicago's win now puts Carolina at one and eight. They're

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Speaker 2: tied with Arizona for the worst record in the league. Remember,

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Speaker 2: these same Bears own Carolina's twenty twenty four first round pick,

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Speaker 2: which could end up being the number one overall. Having

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Speaker 2: the worst record and missing out on a top pit,

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Speaker 2: you can't say you had a good day, although in

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Speaker 2: this day and age, you're tanking your your freaking mind. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: maybe you can thread the needle and get like Trey

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Speaker 2: me where it's worked. That's a that's a speech for

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Speaker 2: a different day. I'll give it another day, and I've

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Speaker 2: given it before even worse. Now I'm not in this camp.

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Speaker 2: But some people are starting to wonder if Bryce Young,

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty three pick for whom Carolina gave up

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Speaker 2: take a little bit more developmental time, but I can

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Speaker 2: see right away guys like Trey Lance and Justin Fields

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Speaker 2: early on. And by the way, Demika Ryant's ahtly different,

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Speaker 2: totally different culture, different everything. Give Bryce Young a chance. Okay.

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Speaker 2: Week eleven in college football promises to be very spicy

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Speaker 2: because there are multiple matchups that have key ramifications, which

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get to later in the show. But if

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Speaker 2: you watch the Tuesday Night Made for TV Invitational Tournament

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Speaker 2: top four the second week, well, it held firm. Nothing

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Speaker 2: moved to Ohio State, Georgia, Michigan, Florida State, all still undefeated.

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Speaker 2: They maintained the primary spots. Not only that, the top

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Speaker 2: every team prevailing in their respective games last Saturday, Ohio

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Speaker 2: the top team. They're a massive favorite Saturday against Michigan State.

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Speaker 2: All but two teams ranked in the number one season's

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Speaker 2: The highest ranked group of five program this week is Tulane.

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Speaker 2: They're number twenty three. They have no chance of making

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Speaker 2: the playoff this year, but tell me you can't wait

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Speaker 2: until next year, because I can't. In an expanded twelve

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Speaker 2: Tulane would actually be in the pole position to earn

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Speaker 2: I say it can't get here soon enough. Finally, one

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Speaker 2: last thing for you Colorado Buffalo fans. They're now one

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Speaker 2: and five after that great start, one in five in

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Speaker 2: Pac twelve play in danger of not earning a bowl game.

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Speaker 2: There's a high probability they will not be Bowl eligible.

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Speaker 2: They host one more home game against Arizona this Saturday,

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Speaker 2: and then they'll close out the season on the road

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Speaker 2: against Washington State and Utah. I don't like their chances.

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Speaker 2: They're currently four and six. They're gonna need two wins

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Speaker 2: anyway you slice it, you've enjoyed this Colorado story, don't

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Speaker 2: act like you have it. Can't just be a front runner.

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Speaker 2: I told you there's still you know, I think Master

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Speaker 2: coming up. We talk Raiders, by the way, and they

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Speaker 7: Always great to be on with you, Bernie.

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Speaker 7: That point where Mark Davis knew he had had conversations

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Speaker 2: Tiger with Kevin Bollinger, Fox five Sports director here in

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Speaker 7: Without the other. That's kind of the consensus and where

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Speaker 7: You know, look, if this is what we're going to

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Speaker 2: Kevin, this can't help but not conjure up memories. So

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Speaker 2: Josh mcdani was only lasting twenty five games, and we

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Speaker 2: It is, and of course I was one of the

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Speaker 2: The players seem to have really taken to Antonio Peers.

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Speaker 2: You're as close to the team as anybody.

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Speaker 7: I know.

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Speaker 2: What observations have you made in terms of the culture

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Speaker 8: About that, you know, after the changes made, that you

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Speaker 2: When you win, culture is credited.

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Speaker 7: When you lose, culture as the culprit, and the Raiders

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Speaker 2: Talk with Kevin Bollinger, Fox five Sports director here in

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Speaker 7: I think they've already done that, barring any type of injury.

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Speaker 7: I think O'Connell is QB one for the Raiders for

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Speaker 2: Well, Kevin, speaking of defense, it's you can clearly see

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Speaker 7: I think that that's exactly where this team is right now,

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Speaker 10: But Max Crosby is the motor that runs this team,

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Speaker 2: Kevin, great stuff. As always. I'm going to want to

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Speaker 7: Like sands through the hour glass, so turns the Raiders

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Speaker 2: Never a dull moment, Kevin. Thanks so much. Buddy gets

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Speaker 7: Thanks BERDIY appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: S Kevin Bohlinger, Fox five sports director here in Las

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Speaker 2: Kevin always has the answer. Coming up. We circle back

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Speaker 11: All right, Bernie, We'll start with in the NBA on

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Speaker 11: Friday night, the Lakers picking up the first road victory

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Speaker 11: of the season, a one twenty two to one to

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Speaker 11: forty four points from Luka Doncicquez Dallas defeated the Clippers one,

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Speaker 11: for their fifth consecutive victory Utah. With the victory over Memphis,

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Speaker 11: snapping a four game losing streak. Boston in Houston would

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Speaker 11: win seventy six ers with the victory as well over

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Speaker 11: the Pistons. They got thirty three points and sixteen rebounds

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Speaker 11: from Joel Embiid. In college football, smu Hammeret North Texas

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Speaker 11: forty five to twenty one. He was UNLV thirty four,

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Speaker 11: Wyoming fourteen. As you mentioned, the Big Ten suspending Michigan

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Speaker 11: coach Jim Harbaugh for the remainder of the regular season

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Speaker 11: amid the sign stealing scandal involving a former staffer. And

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Speaker 11: in college basketball, one matchup between two ranked opponents, fourteenth

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Speaker 11: rank Arizona defeating number two Duke on the road seventy

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Speaker 11: eight to seventy three. Back to Bernie Freddo.

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Speaker 2: All right, Kevin, good stuff, buddy. So as you know,

446
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,360
Speaker 2: Michigan fans will wait with baited breath to see if

447
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 2: they're temporary restraining murders successful in Jim Harbach can find

448
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 2: his way back onto the sidelines here in about twelve

449
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 2: and a half hours in Michigan's game at Penn State.

450
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Speaker 2: But there's a name that has seemingly ducked into the background.

451
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 2: But this name lit the fuse for this whole thing

452
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 2: back around October fifteenth. And his name is Connor Stallions.

453
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Speaker 2: And aren't you curious who hired Connor Stallions? How did

454
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 2: he go from being this super fan to being a

455
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:19,920
Speaker 2: paid staff employee at the University of Michigan. Who was

456
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 2: his direct report? Who did he report to? And all

457
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 2: of a sudden he was gone? First it was announced

458
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 2: he was fired, then he was announced he resigned. Well,

459
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,640
Speaker 2: why Michigan did nothing wrong? Or saying he did nothing wrong?

460
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 2: Which I think pisses people off more than anything. Michigan's

461
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 2: obstinacy and their denials and whatever happened, This continual aquer

462
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 2: harball just continues to play dumb. Now I'm not taking side,

463
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Speaker 2: I'm just calling it as I see it. But if

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Speaker 2: there wasn't any impropriety, well whisn' Connor Stallions at Michigan

465
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Speaker 2: at Maryland's game Saturday? And as I asked you earlier,

466
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Speaker 2: how was your day? If you can get me answers

467
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Speaker 2: to those questions, help yourself to some cookies out of

468
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Speaker 2: petty cash. Let's go back to Connorston Stallions. You see,

469
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 2: because he became an open book, it did not take

470
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 2: Connor Stallions long enough or long to show the world

471
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Speaker 2: through text conversations that he had entrenched himself at Michigan

472
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Speaker 2: and he had developed connections to the Michigan football team.

473
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Speaker 2: They published actual texts going back three or four years

474
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 2: where he would say things like, quote, I'm close with

475
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 2: the whole staff. He wrote, the whole staff does that

476
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: include Jim Harbaugh? Alvar said he didn't anything about this particular.

477
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 2: He said, quote he became close with CP and Jay

478
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 2: Harb's end quote. Well, that would refer to current linebackers

479
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Speaker 2: coach Chris Partridge and running backs coach and assistant special

480
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Speaker 2: teams coach Jay Harbaugh, who is the son of head

481
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Speaker 2: coach Jim Harbaugh. Now, these are actual texts that were

482
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Speaker 2: published from Connor Stallion's phone. Quote pre covid. These are

483
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 2: texts pre Covid stole opponent's signals during the week watching

484
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Speaker 2: TV copies, then flewed the game and stood next to

485
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Speaker 2: then offensive coordinator Josh Gatis and told him what coverage

486
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 2: slash pressure he was getting unquote. Now, there are a

487
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Speaker 2: lot of texts that are part of a lengthy back

488
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 2: and forth in January and February of twenty twenty one

489
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Speaker 2: between Connor Stallions and who was then a student type

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Speaker 2: I think, or maybe he was. He was, No, Connor

491
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Speaker 2: Statans wasn't a student then he went to Navy. Never mind,

492
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 2: let me get my story straight. He was texting back

493
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Speaker 2: and forth with a Michigan student apparently who was looking

494
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Speaker 2: to get into the college football business, just like Connor

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00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 2: Stallions was right, and Stallions described his behavior as deciphering

496
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 2: opponent's signals. Now we all know you've heard of the

497
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 2: thousand times. That's not against NCAA rules. However, in the

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00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 2: last week, what has happened Now he's gone from being

499
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Speaker 2: suspended to fired or resigned or whatever you want to call.

500
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Speaker 2: But he's also become a househole name across college football

501
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 2: because there's been multiple accusations and reports that it was

502
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Speaker 2: Connor Stallions in fact, that orchestrated an elaborate scheme. And

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Speaker 2: what this would do is he would assign unnamed associates

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Speaker 2: that he would designate I guess in stadiums of Michigan

505
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Speaker 2: opponents to scout in some cases film opposing coaches' signals.

506
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 2: Now those are acts that are very much against the rules.

507
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Speaker 2: So turns out Connor Stallions is in fact a Michigan native.

508
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Speaker 2: He officially joined the Wolverine staff in the spring of

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, but that was reported first by ESPN

510
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 2: and his LinkedIn account, which is now deactivated. Stallion said

511
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Speaker 2: he's served as marine from twenty seventeen to twenty twenty two,

512
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 2: and then starting in twenty fifteen, he also helped Michigan

513
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 2: football as a volunteer assistant. He was hoping at that

514
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 2: point to build a platform for a future career in

515
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 2: college football, specifically the University of Michigan. I think that

516
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 2: was the position he held during this text exchange. I

517
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 2: just read you well. Stiens didn't attend University of Michigan.

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Speaker 2: He attended the Naval Academy. He graduated in twenty seventeen,

519
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Speaker 2: and while he was in Annapolis, he was a student assistant.

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Speaker 2: He was also part of the football team there, which

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Speaker 2: interesting kind of includes an overlap with his time on

522
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Speaker 2: his LinkedIn account that said he was volunteering for Michigan,

523
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Speaker 2: but the LinkedIn account has since been deleted. Now, in

524
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Speaker 2: the course of his conversation with this other unnamed student,

525
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Speaker 2: which was I guess, an elongated conversation that lasted about

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Speaker 2: three weeks, Stallions stated, I believe through text that he

527
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Speaker 2: would claim that shortly after he graduated, he got what

528
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Speaker 2: he would call the decade's worth of high school National

529
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Speaker 2: Standardized test scores and GPAs for about five hundred Navy

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Speaker 2: players over time, and data that I understand he's not

531
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Speaker 2: allowed to possess. I don't know any details, so I'm

532
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: not going to go into that, but the bottom line is,

533
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Speaker 2: he claimed he simply went to the Naval Academy's admissions

534
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 2: office and name dropped the head coach of Navy at

535
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Speaker 2: the time, who was Ken Neumia to Lolo, and he

536
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 2: said the admissions office told him to delete the data

537
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Speaker 2: the following day. But Stallion's was coy over whether or

538
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Speaker 2: not he had made it clear. He made it clear

539
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Speaker 2: he used the data to inform his recruiting philosophy. Now,

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Speaker 2: individual data that's obtained through the Naval Academy and missions process,

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Speaker 2: which includes information I just gave you, like test scores

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Speaker 2: and GPAs, it's protected under a Privacy Act. So Stallion,

543
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 2: which is kind of an interesting actor here, Okay, he

544
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 2: told this student that data led him to conclude that

545
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 2: there's a direct relationship among test scores GPAs in the

546
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Speaker 2: work habits of athletes, and his theory was that athletes

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00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 2: with lower SAT scores but high GPAs would be strong

548
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 2: performers on the football field because test scores might indicate intelligence,

549
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 2: but GPA gives you the work ethic. So this is

550
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: a guy who's a thinker. This is a guy who's

551
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 2: he's he's a what's the word I'm looking for man,

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00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 2: He's he's diabolical. I think, I don't know, how do

553
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 2: you describe that? Right? One of the things he did

554
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 2: was put together this five hundred page Michigan manifesto and

555
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 2: his idea on how to you know, how a football

556
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 2: team should be run? Right, And I guess it leaked

557
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 2: out that while Stallions was at the Naval Academy, he

558
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: was obsessed with Michigan to the point where it was

559
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: accessed and it was not on commed. He attended Michigan games,

560
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 2: you know, while he was a student at Navy. And

561
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 2: apparently there's a photo that's again deleted from his Facebook

562
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 2: page nine years ago that showed him in his his

563
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 2: midshipman you know dress uniform with a couple of Wolverines players.

564
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Speaker 2: So Stallions chose to attend the Naval Academy. He got

565
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: into Michigan, where both of his parents attended, but he

566
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 2: chose to attend the Naval Academy, all right, you know,

567
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 2: stationed at Camp Pendleton, all that kind of stuff. He

568
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: did odd jobs, you know, in ann Arbor whenever he

569
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 2: got the chance, and then I guess he became very

570
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Speaker 2: close friends with one of Michigan's linebackers coach and YadA

571
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: YadA yah. Okay, So the controversy really starts around Stallions,

572
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 2: but it's not the only issue, right. Michigan is also

573
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Speaker 2: dealing with an NCAA probe and the improper recruiting during

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00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty COVID nineteen season. And Jim Harbaugh has

575
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: already remember earlier this year self to serve the self

576
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: and posed three games suspension, and then they had their

577
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: former offensive coordinator Matt Weiss also suspended. And so there's

578
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: been a lot around the Michigan program this year. But

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Speaker 2: I don't believe any of this happens without the Connors,

580
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 2: stallions fused being lit and the allegations tickets purchased to

581
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 2: over thirty games against Michigan's opponents over the years, et cetera,

582
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 2: et cetera. So somebody, I haven't been Frankly, I haven't

583
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 2: really been that interested in this story. I have, but

584
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 2: I haven't because there's so much flying around back and forth,

585
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: and everything is subjective, no one is. Very few people

586
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 2: have reported the story objectively because there are a lot

587
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 2: of Michigan lums around the country that don't think they

588
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 2: did anything wrong, and they're very defensive and they're very obstinate.

589
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 2: And then there are people who aren't Michigan fans or

590
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 2: just generalized people who are outraged by this. Even though frankly,

591
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Speaker 2: if you really knew anything about this rule prior October fifteenth, yeah,

592
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 2: I'm gonna call you out. I'm pretty on top of

593
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 2: my game, and I didn't really know much about this rule.

594
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 2: I had to research that. I know it was changed

595
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety four to create a level playing field.

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00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 2: And then you know, there are allegations of well, even

597
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 2: though Michigan did this, how did they really benefit from it?

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00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 2: You know, did it really help them they're so good.

599
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Speaker 2: I got twenty draft picks that are gonna play in

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Speaker 2: the NFL. Okay, then why'd you do it? It's like

601
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Speaker 2: Sammy Silcy used to say, well, you know, steroids don't

602
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 2: make it hit home runs? Well they wy don't you

603
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Speaker 2: take them then, which is a whole long conversation for

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Speaker 2: another day. So, as this story continues, and I'm telling

605
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Speaker 2: you people I want to, I usually don't do this.

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Speaker 2: It's been recommended to me by my good buddy Jay Shipp,

607
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 2: and I trust them. Let's hear from the peeps at midnight,

608
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 2: especially if you're a Michigan alum, or you like me,

609
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 2: you're a Michigan fan, or you hate Michigan. Again, nobody

610
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 2: wants to talk about this subjective objectively. It's only subjective

611
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 2: subject to whether or not Michigan's so good in any way,

612
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 2: it wouldn't matter what do they do. Everybody else is

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00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: doing it. Why not people have used signs against Michigan.

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00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 2: There's so much flying around. I just don't care to

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00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 2: deal with it. I don't really like to deal in

616
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Speaker 2: innuendo I do. I am a journalist, I'm an educated journalist,

617
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Speaker 2: and as I've always said on one size side, it

618
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Speaker 2: says it's raining and the other side says, it's not

619
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Speaker 2: my job to argue. It's my job to look out

620
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Speaker 2: the window and see for myself. When this particular case,

621
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Speaker 2: I'm not really doing that. I'm looking forward to watching

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Speaker 2: the game, which kicks off here in twelve hours and

623
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Speaker 2: seventeen minutes. But beyond that, I'll let everybody clunk head

624
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Speaker 2: and see where this goes. Because frankly, when the NCAA

625
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Speaker 2: gets involved, and you're not gonna see that too well

626
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Speaker 2: into twenty twenty four because after they finished their investigation,

627
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: which it just started interviewing the coaching staff last week,

628
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 2: well then they're gonna give Michigan a ninety day notice

629
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Speaker 2: of allegation so Michigan doesn't have to respond to the

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Speaker 2: NCAAs sometime in probably February March. It's gonna go well

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Speaker 2: into the summer. I guarantee it, maybe even in the

632
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 2: next football season. This just isn't gonna get resolved that soon,

633
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Speaker 2: and I don't know what the resolution is. And you

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Speaker 2: know what, we gotta let the season play out, because

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Speaker 2: what if Michigan goes on to win the National Championship,

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Speaker 2: what are people gonna say or if they lose two

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Speaker 2: at midnight. I really want to hear what people have

645
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 2: to say on this, But come it up. We've got

646
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: some college football playoff projections. Ever so quickly, there are

647
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 2: some meaningful impacted or check that again, terrible English. The

648
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 2: most impactful remaining schedule games Saturday. Well, I'm gonna get

649
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 2: to those, and what do those mean if your team

650
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 2: wins your team doesn't, And then presented the percentage probability

651
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Speaker 2: of getting into the playoff. I'm Bernie Fradleworck coming to

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Speaker 2: you live from the Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio tyrack

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Speaker 2: dot com studios. Keep it locked right here. You listen

654
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Speaker 2: to the Bernie Fradle Show on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 2: All right back at the Bernie Fraddle Show. Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio coming to you live from the Las Vegas Tyrack

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Speaker 2: dot Com studios will take you up to two am Pacific,

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Speaker 2: five AM Eastern eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox

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Speaker 2: eight seven seven nine ninety six sixty three six nine

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Speaker 2: dial them up midnight. We're gonna take calls. I don't

665
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 2: usually do this, but this Michigan situation, and now that

666
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh has not only been suspended for the final

667
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,439
Speaker 2: three games of the regular but they did it while

668
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 2: the plane was in medair, and Big Ten didn't exactly

669
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 2: do Michigan any favors, giving him very little time to

670
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 2: have success with their temporary restraining order. And again, remember

671
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 2: they're gonna have Judge is gonna have to pour through

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00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 2: a lot of documents. Michigan's gonna have to prove two

673
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Speaker 2: things that they have a fighting chance to win this case,

674
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Speaker 2: and two they'll suffer irreparable damage if in fact the

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Speaker 2: temporary restraining order is not granted. Eight seven, seven nine nine,

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Speaker 2: six six three six nine. Let's hear from me. I

677
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 2: don't do this very often. By the way, Ace Holden

678
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 2: one tweets he's correct. The PSU the Penn State Michigan

679
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 2: game is a noon Eastern time start. It is currently

680
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 2: eleven fifty two pacifics, so the kickoff is nine hours

681
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,479
Speaker 2: an eight minutes, not twelve hours away.

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Speaker 4: My bad.

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00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 2: Sometimes I get a little goofy on my on my

684
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 2: time frames here, all right, So there are five very

685
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 2: packful games Saturday that have a real impact on what

686
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 2: you would call a playoff predictor. Right, certain games in

687
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 2: a certain week have more impact than others. And I

688
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 2: don't know if this goofy all state playoff predictor. I

689
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: don't know how musfared in the past, but let's give

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00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 2: it its due. So Michigan's obviously at Penn State. That's

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00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 2: a big one. If Michigan wins, according to the playoff predictor,

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00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 2: they're going to have a seventy percent chance to be

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Speaker 2: in the playoffs. If Michigan loses, that drops to eighteen percent.

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00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 2: How the hell they figure that out? I don't know.

695
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 2: You know, I went to high school the full six

696
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: years on, no dropout, But to come up with the

697
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 2: math like that I don't know currently. Right now, the

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00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 2: predictor shows Ohio State with a seventy seven percent chance

699
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 2: to make the playoff, Florida State with a sixty two

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00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 2: percent chance, Michigan with a forty four percent chance, and

701
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 2: Alabama forty one percent. By the way, if you're wonder

702
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 2: run Georgia is they were a thirty nine percent, which

703
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: means maybe they think Alabama's gonna be Georgia in the

704
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 2: SEC Championship game. Anyway, Slice, it's gonna be fun. There

705
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 2: are a hell of a lot of good games on Saturday,

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Speaker 2: not just those games I mentioned eight seven, seven, nine,

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Speaker 2: ninety six, sixty three six nine. Give us a call.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk to the Michigan suspension. Keep it locked. It's

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Speaker 2: Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio. Yup, that's right. You

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Speaker 2: heard the man. The Bernie Fraddles Show keeps rolling right along.

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Speaker 2: should be eight seven seven nine nine six six three

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Speaker 2: six nine eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox, let's

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Speaker 2: hear from you. We know you got opinions. I'm gonna

719
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 2: go to the callers in just a second here. But

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Speaker 2: one of the things that's bob me a little bit

721
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 2: about this whole Michigan ordeal in the last several weeks

722
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 2: is the posture that the University of Michigan has taken

723
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 2: the obstinacy the let's play dumb. It is literally to

724
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Speaker 2: me taking on the personality of a Woody Allen movie.

725
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: And I'm a huge Woody Allen movie buff. One of

726
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 2: his most famous movies was one of his first movies,

727
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 2: movie called Bananas back in like nineteen sixty seven, hilarious.

728
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 2: Woody Allen, of course, plays a role in his own movie.

729
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 2: It plays a character by the name of Fielding Melish

730
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 2: and he's a reporter. He's a journalist, and he's dispatched

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Speaker 2: to cover the war in San Salvador. And while he's

732
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 2: down there in this war where they're trying to overtake

733
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 2: a dictator, he meets a female reporter and he falls

734
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 2: head over heels for her and he's trying to impress

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Speaker 2: her in the you know, the process of trying to

736
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Speaker 2: impress her. He's very much trying to convince her that

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00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 2: he's a very worldly guy. He's a world traveler. He says,

738
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Speaker 2: he's been all around the world, all over the world.

739
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: And she says, wow, that that's something. Have you ever

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00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,879
Speaker 2: been to Denmark, because of course I've been there. I've

741
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 2: even I've even seen the uh uh, the Pope, the Pope,

742
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: the Pope. Wait a minute, you've seen the Vatican the

743
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 2: Vatican is in Italy. He I know, I know, but

744
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 2: they were doing so well they opened up one in Denmark. Also.

745
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 2: That's how I feel about the uh the Michigan explanation

746
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 2: and the way they've conducted themselves. But enough about me,

747
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 2: because it's the fans that make the sports world go around.

748
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 2: Eight seven seven nine nine, six six three six nine.

749
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Speaker 2: Let's hear from you. Let's start with Steven in Kansas City.

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00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 2: I'm hoping you have a strong opinion on this Michigan ordeal.

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00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 7: Hey Bernie, Hey, Bernie Man, I know you're you're a

752
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 7: nice guy, but I mean, you're just being too easy

753
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 7: on these guys. You know, this is a pattern of

754
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 7: cheating unparalleled in the history of college football. I think

755
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 7: they got off easy as far as I'm concerned Michigan.

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00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 7: You forget that Harbaugh was already on suspension. They may

757
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 7: get the death penalty.

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Speaker 2: And Harbor, oh no, no, no, no, stand on the line.

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00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 2: Stay on the line. We're going to have dialogue here.

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00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 2: The NCAA will never issue the death penalty again after

761
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 2: what happened to SMU. But your initial point, Stephen, is taken.

762
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 2: Michigan has had They've got a body of work. And

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Speaker 2: I did mention it earlier in my opening monologue. Remember,

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Speaker 2: Harbaugh served the self and post three game suspension, and

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00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 2: that's not done because that's still to be adjudicated sometime

766
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 2: in twenty four after Michigan gets there their notice of allegation.

767
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 2: But continue on with your premise.

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00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 7: Well, my only point is once you establish that they

769
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 7: have lack of institutional control, that the death penalty is

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00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 7: in play, and a death penalty would be I mean,

771
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 7: I'm not saying that it's going to happen, but because

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00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 7: of the using of the ball boys, using of the

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00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 7: central Michigan sideline, that because of the outrageous nature of

774
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 7: this conduct, Hardbaugh doesn't care. He doesn't He got desperate.

775
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 7: He got desperate losing to Ohio State, his career was

776
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 7: going to be over, and he decided to unleash cheating

777
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 7: that we have never seen before in the history of

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Speaker 7: college athletics.

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00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 8: And I love Michigan.

780
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 7: I'm a Michigan macker. I'm a Michigan fan. And this

781
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 7: is what you do when you put people in positions

782
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 7: of power that have no scruples and that have no

783
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,919
Speaker 7: compunction because he knows that the NFL might not hire

784
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 7: this guy. This guy is so corrupt and so far

785
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 7: gone that the NFL doesn't even want to hire him.

786
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 7: So the death penalty should be in play now if

787
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 7: they don't find the total lack of institutional consault.

788
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 6: May not be.

789
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 7: But because of the nature of this, because everything that

790
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 7: has gone on, I mean, Michigan has put themselves. They're

791
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,760
Speaker 7: there behind this guy. They're not backing away from them, They're.

792
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 8: Going full forth, full fours.

793
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 7: I don't know why they would put themselves out there

794
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 7: for this kind of scum bucket. Honestly, what do you

795
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 7: think about that, Bernie. I mean, it doesn't make any

796
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 7: sense to me why they would put themselves out there

797
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 7: for such a.

798
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Speaker 2: Jerk, Steven, I appreciate your strong appeals. Okay, those are

799
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 2: the kind of calls I like. And the one thing

800
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: Steven did say at one hundred percent agree with is

801
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 2: so far Michigan's gotten off very easy because Jim Harball

802
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 2: may not be on the sidelines for the final three

803
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 2: regular season games, but it could have been worse. Tony

804
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 2: Batiti has wide range and total autonomy to do a

805
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 2: lot worse. So Michigan runs a table, He'll still be

806
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 2: able to coach. Harvall will still be able to coach

807
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 2: in the Big Ten championship game and in the playoffs

808
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 2: if they make it. But to Steven's larger point, has

809
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 2: someone who spent seventeen years in that market cutting my

810
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 2: teeth covering Michigan foot My mother went to University of Michigan.

811
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 2: They are in this prostitution like no other. Go to

812
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 2: one of their games and they show a video before

813
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 2: the game starts, with great production. They believe they invented

814
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 2: the game. They've been playing it longer than anybody else,

815
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 2: and FARBEI for anybody to question them. There is a

816
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 2: there's a real I won't see delusion of grandeur because

817
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 2: the Michigan, the wing helmet, you know, the big you

818
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 2: sometimes drink the kool aid when you're there. I remember

819
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 2: I used to sign on the air back in nineteen

820
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 2: ninety six, Say and the three men. I admire most

821
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 2: of Father's son and Fielding Yost. But Stephen is right.

822
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 2: They're not above the law, and they don't think they've

823
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,280
Speaker 2: broken the law. And there in lies the subjective nature

824
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 2: of this conversation. No one's going to look at this objectively.

825
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 2: People are looking at it subjectively. Excellent call, Steven to

826
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 2: get the things started. Poppy from San Diego, what are

827
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 2: your thoughts on the Michigan situation?

828
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 12: Hey, you know I have a lot of thoughts about it.

829
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 4: You know, the guy the other color was a.

830
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 7: Him.

831
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 12: Marboy was blaming him.

832
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 8: He's a horrible back.

833
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 2: No, and Chelsey, hang on, Poppy, Hey, Poppy, Poppy, Shay,

834
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 2: let's start over with Poppy. Let's get him on a

835
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 2: better line, because I'm hearing every other word. It sounds

836
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 2: like he's talking through a fan, and I want to

837
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 2: hear what Poppy's got to say, because Poppy brings good energy.

838
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 2: Reset that call, Poppy, get to a place where we

839
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 2: get some good seal service. We're going to call my

840
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: back to you, David Phoenix, winner of our contests. You've

841
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 2: got some thoughts on Michigan. I believe you've got some

842
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 2: Michigan roots.

843
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 4: Really deep roots, Bernie.

844
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 8: Yes.

845
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 4: In fact, as an eleven year old in nineteen sixty nine,

846
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 4: I sat in the stadium watching Michigan upset Ohio State.

847
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 7: Yeah, well Bose first year, Yeah, absolutely.

848
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 2: And I've been to.

849
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 4: Rose Bowls and other bowls and all kinds of home

850
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,760
Speaker 4: games and road games. I've been to all six final

851
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 4: fours at Michigan's in starting in nineteen seventy six. So

852
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 4: I would say my roots are pretty deep. But I'm

853
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 4: not what you call a Homer, and I've really come

854
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:15,320
Speaker 4: to react strongly against the homersm and it's gotten a

855
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 4: lot worse since you left Michigan. Right now, what you

856
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 4: have in the Anarbor area of Detroit area, you have

857
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 4: one organ that's willing to criticize Michigan, and ironically, that's

858
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 4: the student newspaper, the Michigan Daily. The newspaper. The people

859
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 4: that are the so called adult media are just the

860
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 4: complete collection of Homer's propaganda artists and victimologists. And it's

861
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 4: like any game Michigan loses has to be blamed on

862
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 4: the refs, and anything they do is right, and anybody

863
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 4: who says a single word against them has an anti

864
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 4: Michigan agenda. But it's ridiculous, and I think what's happening

865
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 4: here with Harbaugh. First of all, you have to understand

866
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 4: the reason he's so popular right now with the large

867
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 4: number of Michigan people is that the seven years before

868
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 4: him were not very good, especially under Rich Rodriguez and

869
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 4: even under Brady Hope. So Harbaugh came in and he

870
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 4: started winning games mostly against bad teams. He wasn't able

871
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 4: to beat the real good teams for his first six years,

872
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 4: but he did have a good winning record, and then

873
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 4: in these last three years he's really turned it around

874
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 4: and started winning almost every game. And of course they've

875
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,879
Speaker 4: been in the playoffs twice and they'd be Ohio State

876
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 4: the last two years. So he's at the height of

877
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 4: his popularity and people are just ignoring what's really going

878
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 4: on because the first violations that he served the three

879
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 4: games for were COVID violations and pretty serious violations, and

880
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 4: yet they're going around saying no, no, just a hamburger,

881
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 4: just a Hamburger. Well, Mike McDonald was given a show cause.

882
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 4: He was one of the assistants, and of course he

883
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 4: went back to Baltimore on the.

884
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 7: Hard bought of heartboss Shuttle.

885
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 4: But if you're given a show cause, something's really wrong,

886
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 4: so that serious.

887
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 2: It was the cover up, Dave. The cover up's always

888
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 2: worse than chever.

889
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 8: You know that.

890
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 2: It's their obstinacy, that's what's got that's the problem here,

891
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 2: their condescending attitude. You we both spent a lot of

892
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,399
Speaker 2: time and if my mom went to you with him,

893
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 2: I'm not mixed up. I'm not mixed up about the

894
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 2: what I would call sort of the I won't say

895
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 2: it's a delusion of grainder because it's a great institution,

896
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 2: but the way they've the way they've conducted themselves in

897
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 2: terms of how they how their public persona has has

898
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 2: been and both of these allegations has been I think,

899
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:43,919
Speaker 2: and I think it's been off putting to people.

900
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 4: You got the last word, Well, yeah, I just think

901
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 4: when you combine the two investigations and maybe even throwing

902
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 4: the Matt White situation, I think it's going to add

903
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 4: up to a lot of institutional control and there's a

904
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 4: very good chance that if they win the national Championship,

905
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 4: they're going to have to vacate those wins. That's going

906
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 4: to be really embarrassing.

907
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 2: Well, this story's not done. It's going to play out

908
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 2: over the next year. Minimum Dave. Good stuff is always appreciated. Uh,

909
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 2: let's go back to Poppy. Poppy, do we have your

910
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: phone issues solved?

911
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 12: Yeah? Can you guys hear me now?

912
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 7: Better?

913
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Poppy, what were you going to say about

914
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 2: the University of Michigan situation?

915
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 12: I was gonna say, you know, in the court of law,

916
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:27,320
Speaker 12: everyone is innocent and to help proven guilty. And Michigan's

917
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 12: doing good with Harball, you know, saying there innocent. You

918
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 12: know TCU, they know that they were seating. Other people

919
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 12: done it too, So you know, Harba's gonna bust someone

920
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 12: under the bus and he's going.

921
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 7: To come back and coach.

922
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 12: That's my conspiracy theory.

923
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 8: He's going to come back in the Big ten and

924
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 8: then he's gonna win the National Championship.

925
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 12: Michigan's win the National Championship, and then.

926
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 7: He's gonna go with NFL.

927
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 12: I think he's gonna go with the coat.

928
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 2: You know, Poppy, I appreciate it. Buddy, thanks for checking in,

929
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 2: and you, of course you won the first contest and

930
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 2: Dave won the second contest. Here you're back to back,

931
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 2: and I would just say this. I'm gonna go on

932
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 2: record as saying I do not believe Michigan will win

933
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 2: the national championship. You might I like hearing that, but

934
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 2: I don't make things up. Okay, there's a reason, Jim

935
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 2: Harbass two and five against Ohio State one and six

936
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 2: and bowl games and only two in the playoffs. We'll

937
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 2: just see what they look like when they get on

938
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 2: a neutral field, if they get that far against the

939
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,399
Speaker 2: likes of Georgia or Alabama or Florida State or even

940
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 2: in Texas, we'll just see. Prove me wrong, don't tell me,

941
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 2: show me. But that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

942
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 2: Sir Scratchoff joins the argument. Where you been, Sir scratch Off,

943
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 2: Well man, how.

944
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 7: You do it?

945
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 8: Buddy?

946
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 13: I'll tell you what real quick, that's shaw Man. What

947
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 13: a person out of you guys out there Fox Sports?

948
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 13: For twenty one years, I wouldn't listen to nobody else

949
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 13: I have following you, fellard Man, but I won't tell

950
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 13: you something there, sure, Bretto you know, I call you,

951
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 13: sir Bretto. I was just talking to a guy out

952
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 13: a truck stop ball ago.

953
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 8: He come in there and he had a Mischigan shirt on,

954
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 8: and I said, hey, you big Mischian fans. What are

955
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 8: they gonna do? They a suspend your coach? Y'alla? He said,

956
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 8: oh man, he said, I hope not. I bet that

957
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 8: guy he's a great man. I don't care how good

958
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 8: you are. You cheat. You a cheater, do you understand?

959
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 8: And we got so much going on in sports. My

960
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:18,280
Speaker 8: own girl Tillis player Marra Marie Sharp, poet Marmara Guire

961
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 8: seven associates the runner. They're cheating to win a game,

962
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 8: to win a contest. You can't cheat to win, you know.

963
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 8: And I've heard it over and over and over of

964
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 8: astro talk. They cheated. You can't have a championship if

965
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 8: you're gonna cheat, you know, And.

966
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 2: All right, good stuff, Stell, I'm with you. Thanks for

967
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 2: checking in. I appreciate it.

968
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 7: And that will.

969
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 2: This is a story. This is gonna be a gift

970
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 2: that keeps on giving. Eight seven, seven, nine, nine, six

971
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 2: six three sixty nine. If you haven't gotten in yet,

972
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 2: you can join this argument. Let's hear from you, uh

973
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 2: Tony Petit. He has spoken. He believes he has sufficient

974
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 2: evid evidence that Michigan violated the sportsmanship policy of the

975
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 2: Big Ten because what they did was impermissible with respect

976
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 2: to their m person's scouting operation, which his words, gave

977
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 2: them an unfair competitive advantage. We'll continue on with this,

978
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 2: and I want to hear what Kevin figures and the

979
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 2: crew's got to say as well. This is a highly

980
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 2: charged issue, as you can see. Do I think Michigan

981
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 2: to get the death penalty? With all respect to Stephen.

982
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,320
Speaker 2: The NCAA has already said they realized the damage that

983
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 2: it was done to SMU just almost irreparable damage. And

984
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 2: so I don't think you'll ever see any school get

985
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 2: the death penalty again. But they could certainly get you

986
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 2: some pretty severe penalties. But this is going to take

987
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,120
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Speaker 2: lot of ground, Kevin figures I want to hear from you.

1004
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 2: There are multiple angles to this story, not the least

1005
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 2: of which it's extremely rare. I don't know that I

1006
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 2: can name another time. We're a national championship contender in

1007
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 2: the final stretch of its season has one of its

1008
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 2: coaches suspended by its own conference. I don't think it's

1009
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 2: ever happened. Your thoughts, Take this anywhere you want to

1010
00:55:58,360 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 2: take it.

1011
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of late to this, Bernie.

1012
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 11: I guess the big overarching narrative for me here is

1013
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 11: that I don't like dealing in absolutes, and there seems

1014
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 11: to be a camp of you're either on the side

1015
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 11: of Jim Harbar or on the side of the Big

1016
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 11: Ten slash NC Double A. And I think this is

1017
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 11: a situation where kind of all things or both things

1018
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 11: can be true. Like one belief is, well, the NC

1019
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 11: Double A and all these coaches just don't like Jim

1020
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 11: Harball and this is some sort of witch hunt and

1021
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 11: everybody's out to get them, and they finally found some

1022
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 11: smoking gun and they're going after Jim Harbaugh because they

1023
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:28,399
Speaker 11: don't like them.

1024
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: There could be an element of truth to that, but

1025
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: I think it all could also be.

1026
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 11: True that Jim Harball, whether he knew about it or not,

1027
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 11: his football program ran afoul over rule that was in

1028
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 11: place and to your point, and it was pointed out

1029
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 11: in the letter that was sent earlier today by the

1030
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 11: Big Ten. You know, they basically ran to follow the rule,

1031
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 11: and the only defense of it was while other people

1032
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 11: are doing it too absent evidence. Maybe other teams are

1033
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 11: doing it, maybe they aren't. But I love the analogy

1034
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 11: used early in the first hour. It's the you know,

1035
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 11: everybody drives sixty in a fifty five, it's like, well,

1036
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 11: when they got caught. So we can't prove whether or

1037
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 11: not but Ohio State or Indiana or somebody else did this.

1038
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 11: There's proof, a mountain of proof that you guys did this,

1039
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 11: So we can only go off of the proof that

1040
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 11: we have to work with.

1041
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 2: Now.

1042
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 11: With that being said as well, you cannot have conducted

1043
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 11: a full investigation in just a couple of weeks if

1044
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 11: you're Tony Patiti in the Big Ten. I understand why

1045
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 11: because there's a lot of pressure mounting from other coaches

1046
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 11: in the conference saying you need to do something immediately.

1047
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 11: But unfortunately, for something like this, with the scope and

1048
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 11: scale of it, you can't possibly do a full on

1049
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 11: investigation in a two week period, which is why I

1050
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 11: think it wasn't the best move for them to take

1051
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 11: this action against Jim Harball now, especially knowing that Harball

1052
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 11: and the school, we're gonna take the action that they took,

1053
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 11: which was filing a restraining order, which means most likely

1054
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 11: in a few hours when they kick off, Harball's probably

1055
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 11: gonna be on the sideline regardless. So ultimately, who won,

1056
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 11: who's winning in this situation. I don't know if anybody does.

1057
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 11: Harball's still gonna be the coach for that think the

1058
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 11: final three games of the regular season. I feel confidence

1059
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 11: in saying he's going to be on the sideline this weekend.

1060
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 11: Did you appease the other coaches in the Big Ten

1061
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 11: by saying, well, at least we did something? Well, what's

1062
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 11: that something? Going to end up amounting to? Probably a

1063
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 11: whole lot of nothing, And once this investigation is over.

1064
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 11: But I'm quite honest, to be honest with you, Bernie,

1065
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 11: Jim Harbaugh is probably going to be on the sideline

1066
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 11: and an NFL team and it won't even affect him

1067
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 11: at all at this point.

1068
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: That's kind of my overall thought.

1069
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 2: So a couple of things. First of all, I think

1070
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 2: this is very political in nature. Whoever turned hardball in

1071
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 2: the first place, and I've heard some names. I'm not

1072
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 2: going to talk about it. This something had to light,

1073
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 2: this fuse, which led to Connor's giants, which led to

1074
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 2: the NCAA getting involved, which led to the Big Ten

1075
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 2: getting involved. Tony Petitiz, a brand new commissioner, been on

1076
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 2: the job eight months, getting ready to get a new

1077
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 2: TV contract, absorb new teams into the conference. I don't

1078
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 2: think he had designs on wanting to do with any

1079
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 2: of this until last week when they were two ninety

1080
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 2: minutes zoom calls and ads from opposing schools and coaches

1081
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 2: from when opposing schools felt like wanted Jim Harball's head

1082
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 2: on a platter, so he felt like he had to

1083
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 2: do something. He was paunched his pilot here. He had

1084
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 2: to do something to avoid the riot, right, And I

1085
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 2: feel like this was political in nature on both sides,

1086
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 2: which leads to the next question. Do you think Jim

1087
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 2: Harbaugh knew that this was going on.

1088
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 11: I've gone back and forth on this because it's very

1089
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 11: difficult for me to assume that he didn't know when

1090
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 11: there's video of Stallion standing next to offensive and defensive

1091
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 11: coordinators and telling them exactly what's going on and what's happening.

1092
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 11: So I do think, and you know, you've covered the

1093
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 11: sport long enough, Bernie to know in situations usually this

1094
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 11: is in dealing with impermissible benefits, which is not much

1095
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 11: of a deal now that we have nil. But coaches

1096
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 11: were kind of purposely left in the dark the plausible

1097
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 11: deniability about things. But I refuse to believe that in

1098
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 11: a situation like this that Jim Harbaugh doesn't know. I

1099
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 11: do believe that there's most likely not a paper trail

1100
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 11: that can prove that he knew, But I have to

1101
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 11: I believe with my heart of hearts he absolutely knew

1102
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 11: what Connor Stallions was doing and what his role was

1103
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 11: on the staff.

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01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 2: And then the sixty four dollars question, which I think

1105
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 2: is most important. Number one, can you quantify how this

1106
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 2: activity helped Michigan? Did they make did this make them

1107
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 2: better your thoughts?

1108
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: That's hard to say. It's really difficult to quantify, to

1109
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: be honest with you, I know, and there's like the.

1110
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 11: Circumstantial evidence to say maybe, like I know, one stat

1111
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 11: people are pulling up is like the only year that

1112
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 11: they struggled was the COVID year when nobody was in

1113
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 11: the stands and oh interesting, he wasn't able to buy tickets.

1114
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: But I mean that was a weird year for a

1115
01:00:37,520 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: lot of teams. Indiana Damner won the conference. I mean,

1116
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: come on, what are we talking about?

1117
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 11: So I don't know if I can really say that

1118
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 11: the TCU situation where TCU was tipped off that there

1119
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 11: were stealing signs and they use dummy signs and TCU

1120
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 11: only ends up winning what was it, fifty one to

1121
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 11: forty five. If they hadn't switched their signs up, maybe

1122
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 11: they get the doors blown off of them like Michigan's

1123
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 11: been doing to everybody this year.

1124
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: But Michigan's also not played anybody this year.

1125
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 11: So what they have won by twenty eight again the

1126
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 11: team as opposed to thirty eight, those are the things

1127
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 11: that So from that standpoint, Bernie, it's really difficult for

1128
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:08,440
Speaker 11: me to quantify. Did they get an advantage probably, and

1129
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 11: advantage so much so that it actually helped them win

1130
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 11: a game that they otherwise would not have.

1131
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 1: That's difficult to say.

1132
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 2: Shay, you got the last world on this. Do you

1133
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 2: have some thoughts?

1134
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean I don't really have thoughts on the

1135
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 14: entire suspension itself, but I just if he isn't I mean,

1136
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 14: let's say he isn't going to be on the sideline tomorrow,

1137
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 14: I really don't think it will matter for Michigan at all.

1138
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 14: I mean, he'd I mean in the game itself, he's

1139
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 14: not the one drawing up the plays, he's not the

1140
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 14: one giving it. It's the coordinators, the offensive coordinators, defensive coordinators.

1141
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 14: So I really don't think this affects Michigan's chances at

1142
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 14: winning a national title one bit. And I think it

1143
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 14: just kind of reflects to see is this a punishment

1144
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 14: at all? Like, I really don't even think it is

1145
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 14: to that sense, and I don't think it's going to

1146
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 14: affect them one bit from the Michigan point of view

1147
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 14: on this sense. On the suspensions, I don't really have

1148
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 14: too many thoughts on it. I mean, they're doing what

1149
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 14: they have to do. It's kind of like just to

1150
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 14: please the public at this time, just because of how

1151
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 14: big of a story it is.

1152
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 2: All right, good stuff. I think you bring up a

1153
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 2: good point. I don't know how much of a punishment

1154
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 2: punishment this really is. I know Michigan fans are not

1155
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 2: gonna see it that way, but I don't think Jim

1156
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 2: Harbaugh absent on the sidelines and it believe me, I

1157
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:26,959
Speaker 2: have enough of a legal background to know this judge

1158
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 2: is gonna have to pour through a hell of a

1159
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 2: lot of documents in the next eight and a half

1160
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 2: hours to determine whether or not it's fifty to fifty

1161
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 2: at best. If he's on the field Saturday now, he

1162
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 2: may be on the field next week against Maryland. We'll

1163
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 2: see what happens. It can still happen. But the larger

1164
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 2: issue here is that is this punishment really real punishment.

1165
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 2: I think Michigan got off light if you're being objective,

1166
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 2: but no one can be objective if you're a Michigan fan.

1167
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 2: Hell no, we got screwed man our coach. We didn't

1168
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 2: do anything. Everybody else is doing it too. And by

1169
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 2: the way, top of the hour, I'm gonna give it

1170
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 2: one of my famous Bernie Frattle commentary on the history

1171
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 2: of the NCAA football in the phenomenon of cultural cheatings,

1172
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 2: not just Michigan, this goes back one hundred years. I'll

1173
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 2: give you examples that I'm not defending Michigan. And again

1174
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 2: speaking of objectivity versus subjectivity, if you were on the

1175
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 2: other side of the coin. We had one very thoughtful caller,

1176
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 2: Steven Kansas City, who thinks they should get the death penalty.

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01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 2: This is all true. So that shows you how highly

1178
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 2: charged this is. Be that as it may. There are

1179
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 2: other games Saturday. Let's delve into those key matchups, as

1180
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 2: well as one final look at Michigan pen State. But

1181
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 2: first let's go back to our guy, Kevin figures with

1182
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 2: the latest.

1183
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 11: All right, Bernie, We'll start with the NBA on Friday night,

1184
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 11: Lebron James scoring thirty two points and grabbing eleven boards

1185
01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 11: for the Lakers and a one twenty two to one

1186
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 11: nineteen victory in Phoenix. Kevin Durant and did lead all

1187
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 11: scores with thirty eight points in a losing effort. Luka

1188
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 11: Dantics scored forty four for Dallas. They cursed off the

1189
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 11: Clippers one forty four to one to twenty six. LA

1190
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 11: has lost four games in a row. Twenty eight points

1191
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 11: for Anthony Edwards in a one seventeen to one ten

1192
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 11: Timberwolves victory over the Spurs. Joel Embiid scored thirty three

1193
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 11: points with sixteen bars in a six ers victory over Detroit.

1194
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 11: You had victories for the Jazz, Hornets and Celtics Friday night.

1195
01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 11: In college football on the field, UNLV defeated at Wyoming

1196
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 11: thirty four to fourteen. SMU was eight and two after

1197
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 11: a forty five to twenty one victory over North Texas.

1198
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 11: NFL Newspackers cornerback Jyer Alexander and linebacker Kuai Walker both

1199
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 11: doubtful to play against Pittsburgh on Sunday. The Bengals will

1200
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:23,120
Speaker 11: be without receiver T Higgins against Houston as he nurses

1201
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 11: a hamstring injury. Jamar Chase is questionable with a back injury.

1202
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 11: Back to Bernie Friddle.

1203
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 2: All right, thanks Kevin. So let's dive into some key

1204
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 2: matchups as college football Week eleven resumes in about eight

1205
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 2: and a half hours here, and let's just quickly revisit

1206
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 2: Michigan Penn State. You know about all the off field drama,

1207
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 2: but finally Michigan will face a test on the field

1208
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 2: at Penn State. Penn State's won seven straight at home.

1209
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 2: They do have the nation's number one defense against the run.

1210
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 2: Who you are kind of told that last year too.

1211
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 2: I Michigan ran for four hunor and eighteen yards. By

1212
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 2: the way, I do not leave this is a distraction

1213
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 2: for Michigan. I believe they have circle the wagons more

1214
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 2: than you could imagine. You're gonna see the power in

1215
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 2: fury of Michigan's team Saturday. Now, who I think is

1216
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:13,479
Speaker 2: gonna win the game? I'm not sure. I'm not sure,

1217
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 2: But if James Franklin is true to form, the Michigan's

1218
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 2: gonna find a way to win. So it's not a

1219
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 2: slide against James Franklin. It's merely a observation that he could.

1220
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 2: You know, they do well against everybody except Michigan in

1221
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 2: Ohio State. If Penn State's gonna take down Michigan, they're

1222
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 2: gonna have to have that elite run defense, which is

1223
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 2: only allowing sixty one yards a game, to hold up

1224
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 2: much better than it did last year because last year

1225
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 2: Domin Edwards and Blank Korham they ran for four or

1226
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 2: eighteen yards and four touchdowns against that elite run defense.

1227
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 2: Franklin has said told to people that his defensive line

1228
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 2: depth is significantly better this year. Right, But they're also

1229
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 2: gonna have to contend with JJ McCarthy, who I think

1230
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 2: should win the Heisman Trophy, not just in stap stuff reward.

1231
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 2: He may not have had that Heisman moment, but I

1232
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 2: will say this, and he's a good guy. He athleticism,

1233
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 2: his ability to keep plays on schedule and make plays

1234
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 2: off schedule. He creates a lot of pressure for defense.

1235
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 2: Defense is on passing downs.

1236
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 7: And so.

1237
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:19,960
Speaker 2: He's got that ability to keep plays alive with his

1238
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 2: feet and his receiver's sided just routes. We'll see if

1239
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 2: Penn State's defense is real, and you should be very

1240
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 2: worried about Penn State's offense. I don't know what it

1241
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 2: is now. Last week Drew Aller showed me something he

1242
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:33,000
Speaker 2: looked pretty damn good. They're gonna have to open it up.

1243
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 2: But from what I've seen out of that offense, especially

1244
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 2: against Ohio State, I'm telling you they couldn't score in

1245
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 2: a house of ville repute with a fist full of fifties.

1246
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:44,480
Speaker 2: It's not a good offense. We'll see what happens. You got,

1247
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 2: you know, a little over eight and a half hours.

1248
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 2: You can prove me wrong. All night. We haven't even

1249
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:52,000
Speaker 2: talked about old Missing Georgia. Georgia is also nine. I

1250
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 2: know Georgia has a chance to win the SEC East

1251
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 2: again if they can beat Lane Kiffen's rebels at home,

1252
01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 2: their ted point favorites. Georgia can also clinch the division

1253
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 2: if Missouri simply beats Tennessee earlier in the day. Regardless

1254
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 2: of what happens, Georgia wins the SEC if they beat

1255
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 2: you know of Mississippi, which I absolutely believe they will. Okay,

1256
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:16,680
Speaker 2: they've won ten of their last eleven games in this series.

1257
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 2: Lance Kiffin's done a good job very good job at

1258
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 2: Old Miss, but he's stepping up in class big time.

1259
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:26,959
Speaker 2: And obviously the Ole Miss hasn't beaten Georgia in seven

1260
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 2: eight years. Georgia's gonna have to. By the way, Georgia

1261
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 2: has also got a great run defense. They allogic cent

1262
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 2: one hundred yards a game. They did not play well

1263
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 2: last week against Missouri, but Missouri is a pretty good team,

1264
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 2: right george is gonna have to plug the middle and

1265
01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 2: they're gonna have to do what they do. But look,

1266
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 2: the Old Miss really needs to win and they need help.

1267
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 2: They have to have Kentucky upset Alabama, and I don't

1268
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:53,439
Speaker 2: see that happening Georgia. Let's not forget they've won twenty

1269
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 2: four straight games at home, they've won twelve. You get

1270
01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 2: the picture. Georgia greatness needs no promotion, and when it

1271
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 2: comes to Georgia, they've proved. I actually think either Georgia

1272
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 2: or a gonna we're gonna win the whole thing. We'll see.

1273
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 2: I don't want to fast forward. The other undefeated team,

1274
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:13,960
Speaker 2: Florida State. They're nine to zero. The game kicks off

1275
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 2: three thirty Eastern time. They host Miami only six and three.

1276
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 2: This is one of those games of Florida brings their

1277
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 2: a game. As Kevin would say, they should molly wat Miami.

1278
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:27,600
Speaker 2: I really believe that the Miami has vastly improved on

1279
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 2: their offensive and defensive lines from a year ago. They

1280
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 2: keep them somewhat competitive Saturday, and they average. They've been

1281
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Speaker 2: a pretty good running team, but they have real uncertainty

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Speaker 2: of quarterback. Okay, so they're gonna have to run the

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Speaker 2: ball on Florida State, and frankly, Florida State's run defense

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Speaker 2: has not been great. But Florida's got two stud receivers. Well,

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Speaker 2: they both missed last week against pitt but I'm guessing

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Speaker 2: they're gonna be back. And Florida State when they flexed

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Speaker 2: their muscle the pretty good. I think they're gonna be

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Speaker 2: in the It's all right in front of them. I

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Speaker 2: think they can run the table in the ACC and

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Speaker 2: be one team that's that's got a real shot to

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Speaker 2: be in this playoff. And from what I've seen in

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Speaker 2: Michigan hasn't even tested and they're very susceptible against the pass.

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Speaker 2: I believe Florida's passing attack would give Michigan fits. They

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01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:25,280
Speaker 2: sure did when they had Dalvin Cook five years ago

1295
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 2: when the Hardball's Bowl lost games. The other undefeated team,

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Speaker 2: the Washington Husky is their home against Utah and a

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Speaker 2: half point favorites. This also kicks off for three thirty Eastern.

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Speaker 2: The game is going to be played in Seattle. It's

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Speaker 2: a must win for Utah. Utah has won back to

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Speaker 2: back pack twelve titles. They don't have their starting quarterback.

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Speaker 2: They're not gonna have them all year. Okay, cam Rising.

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Speaker 2: Utah was blown out thirty five to six in Oregon.

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01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:54,599
Speaker 2: They can't play from behind. The Ducks start fast. Game

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Speaker 2: over Washington, start fast. I expect the same now. A

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Speaker 2: lot of folks believe Oregon Utah is gonna keep this close.

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01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:03,719
Speaker 2: We'll see. The Other thing to watch is Michael Pennix.

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Speaker 2: He's heihs been worthy. If he makes another big performance

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Speaker 2: in Washington wins. We'll see the Utah defense. It's reliable

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Speaker 2: as it comes. The problem is their offense not so much.

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Speaker 2: This is where the game will be one or loss.

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Speaker 2: When Utah has the ball. All right, They put up

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Speaker 2: fifty five points last week, but it was against Arizona State,

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Speaker 2: a little different animal. When you face the Huskies at

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Speaker 2: Husky Stadium. We shall see. Speaking of defense or lack thereof,

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Speaker 2: USC visits Oregon. Now, some people think USC can stay

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01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 2: inside the sixteen points. Maybe I think Oregon's gonna mollywop them.

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Speaker 2: As Kevin would say, USC is mentally beaten. They're physically hurt.

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01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:49,560
Speaker 2: They're now without their star defensive coordinator, Alex granch I

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01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 2: say that tongue in cheek, who was fired following last

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Speaker 2: week's loss against Washington where they gave up their requis

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Speaker 2: at fifty two points. They lose fifty two to forty two.

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01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 2: Teams have a lot to play for. Technically, USC has

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Speaker 2: to win out to have a shout the Pac twelve

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01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:10,719
Speaker 2: title game. But it's the Ducks who have more at steak.

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Speaker 2: They are hoping for a college football playoff. Berth and

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Speaker 2: I believe that they'll run the table get to the

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Speaker 2: Pac twelve championship game out on a neutral field here

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Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. I think Oregon to beat Washington. They

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Speaker 2: would have beaten them the last time. Taking nothing away

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Speaker 2: from Washington's clutch victory at home, they would have beaten

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Speaker 2: them last time. Oregon would have beaten if their coach

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01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 2: had made a bunch of dumb mistakes. But Yeah, we

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01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,640
Speaker 2: know how smart you analytical people are. You're so much

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01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 2: smarter than us. Yeah, I know. You're just just trying

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01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 2: to win games, except it never seems to work, okay,

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01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 2: because the game's played by human beings. Caleb Williams not

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01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 2: exactly an Encore a highest course Heisman season, but he's

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Speaker 2: he's given his best effort. Okay, I really like this

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01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 2: Oregon team. To me, I believe they might be the

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01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:58,519
Speaker 2: best team in the country. And I know they have

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01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 2: a loss, but when I look at their offense, which

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01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 2: is prolific, and their defense is way above average, and

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01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 2: they are very physical, too, much more physical than typical

1344
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 2: Oregon teams, I just have a hell of a hard

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01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 2: time believing how USC hangs around on this game. This's

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01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 2: just this feel honest to god, this feels like a

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01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:23,599
Speaker 2: fifty seven to twenty eight game to me. Just my opinion.

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Speaker 2: All Right, USC has three losses in their past four games.

1349
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 2: Remember they finished the season. They lost their last two

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01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:32,680
Speaker 2: games last season as well. They gave up ninety three

1351
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:36,679
Speaker 2: points against Utah and Twulane. It was a portent where

1352
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 2: were told their defense would be better.

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01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 8: It's not.

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01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:41,720
Speaker 2: Okay, they have an outside shot to make it to

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01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:43,519
Speaker 2: the PAC twelve title game. I guess I have to

1356
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 2: say that they think you got a better chance that

1357
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:48,560
Speaker 2: Led Zeppelin re recording the Gilligan's Island theme song and

1358
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:51,680
Speaker 2: selling a million copies ain't gonna happen. USC six and

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01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 2: five in their last eleven and they don't look good

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01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 2: doing it. Good offense, no defense. And did I mention

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01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 2: this game has to be played at Austin Stadium? The

1362
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 2: Ducks don't lose at autsin Stadium? All right, Trojans will

1363
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 2: give an effort, but I think they're in big trouble.

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01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 2: Coming up. We are starting to talk college football playoff rankings,

1365
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 2: and next Tuesday will be the third iteration of that.

1366
01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:18,639
Speaker 2: We'll see if there are any changes. And I want

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Speaker 2: to bring up a couple of teams who I think

1368
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 2: are Rodey Dangerfield getting no respect. You ever have a

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Speaker 2: situation where something happens to you and you're immediately pissed off,

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01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 2: or you ever have a situation where something happens to

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Speaker 2: you and you kind of regroup later and then you

1372
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 2: become pissed off later. This is what I think has

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Speaker 2: happened to Washington and Alabama. I'll explain I'm Bernie Fraddleerick Company,

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Speaker 2: Live from Las Vegas, Fox Sports Radio, Tiret dot Com Studios.

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Speaker 2: Keep it locked. Listen to the Bernie Fraddle Show on

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. All right back on the Bernie Fraddle Show,

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01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:50,640
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, come your live after the Tyrack dot

1378
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Speaker 2: Com Studios here in Las Vegas. Top of the hour.

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01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 2: Now you have a commentary the phenomenon of culture a

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01:13:57,439 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 2: cheating in the history of NCAA football. Just Michigan, and

1381
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 2: it ain't just now, and I'm not defending him, but

1382
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 2: boy goes back one hundred years. We'll take a little

1383
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 2: bit of a walk down memory lane and you're gonna say, oh, yeah,

1384
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 2: I remember that. By the way, a tweeter asked, we

1385
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 2: keep referring to the death penalty Ti Barron six seven

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01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 2: to zero death penalty had to do with SMU in

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01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:26,599
Speaker 2: the eighties and paying players, And I've studied it at length.

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01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:29,680
Speaker 2: Maybe at some future show we'll talk about it. The

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01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 2: long and the short of it is, the NCAA essentially

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01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 2: shut down SMUs program for two full years. It took

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01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 2: decades to recover, and I don't know that they ever

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01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 2: really did when you consider what a dominant team they

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01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 2: were in the eighties with Eric Dickerson, Craig James, ron Meyer.

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Speaker 2: It is an amazing story. I just don't think it'll

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01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 2: ever happen again. And we'll see what happens to Michigan.

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01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 2: It's going to really be a full year. But onto

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01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 2: other things. And by the way, I can't wait until

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01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 2: next season when we have a twelve team playoff. I hate.

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Speaker 2: I've grown to hate the four team made for TV

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Speaker 2: College Invitational tournament. And so we've got the top four

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01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 2: in the second week. They're the same Ohio State, Georgia, Michigan,

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01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 2: and Florida State. Well, let's pretend you're Washington. I think

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01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 2: you might have a right to be a little pissed

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01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 2: off because let's compare your resume to the team that's

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01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 2: currently ranked number one. Okay, Washington is nine to zero.

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01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 2: The number one team is ranked is nine to zero.

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01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:33,760
Speaker 2: Washington has the number two strength to record. Ohio State

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01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 2: has the number one strength to record. Washington has the

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01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 2: number three average win probability, Ohio State number eleven. Now

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01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 2: Washington's number three overall offense and Ohio State's overall number

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01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 2: three in defense. Ohio State has wins over the fourth

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01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:54,600
Speaker 2: rank seventeenth rank and twenty seventh ranked team by a

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01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:59,600
Speaker 2: total of twenty points. Ohio State, they're ranked over the

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01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 2: number on five, ten and twenty eight ranked team by

1415
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 2: a total of twenty five points. Pretty similar resumes. Right

1416
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 2: by the way, Washington, fresh off a double digit win

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01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 2: over usc might have raised the red flag or two

1418
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 2: about the Husky defense. Ohio State, however, off of fresh

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01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 2: off a double digit win over Rutgers, may have raised

1420
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 2: a red flag about the off the Buckeyes offense. So,

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01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 2: based on what I just told you, I think Ohio

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01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 2: State should be ranked higher than Washington, and they are

1423
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 2: ranked number one when the one of the Hells Washington

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01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 2: cleared down at four. If they're that close, and if

1425
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 2: you're gonna go by strength to record metrics, what's the

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01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:39,680
Speaker 2: committee really looking at? I don't understand. Here's a fun

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01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 2: what if? What if Ohio State loses to Michigan in

1428
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:44,719
Speaker 2: the regular season for now, then sits back and watches

1429
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 2: is Washington loses to Oregon by ten in the PAC

1430
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 2: twelfth title game? Who's getting into the playoff? Two Pac

1431
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:53,760
Speaker 2: twelve teams are two Big ten teams, and how about Alabama?

1432
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 2: In other years you might applaud the committee for sticking

1433
01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:00,679
Speaker 2: to their guns and keeping big bat Alabama other teams

1434
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 2: in spite of the fact that Alabama, well they are Alabama.

1435
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 2: They are eight and one. They got to figure it

1436
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:09,440
Speaker 2: out this time. I think Alabama is actually being overlooked

1437
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:12,760
Speaker 2: a bit. Okay, head to head should matter. The fact is,

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01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:15,479
Speaker 2: I get it, Texas beat Alabama, but that's only part

1439
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 2: of the story that came at a very precarious time

1440
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:21,679
Speaker 2: for Alabama. If you've watched Jalen Millroll in last week's

1441
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 2: two touchs that went over LSU, I think they got

1442
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 2: their problem solved again. You can compare the two teams

1443
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 2: Alabama five wins versus quad one teams Oregon five wins

1444
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 2: versus quad one teams lone loss coming to a top

1445
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:41,160
Speaker 2: ten team, Oregon loan loss coming to a top ten team.

1446
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 2: Fair comparison. So why is Alabama not maybe getting a

1447
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:50,400
Speaker 2: little bit more respect By the way, Alabama had fourteen

1448
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 2: point wins over Tennessee, Ole Miss and LSU.

1449
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Speaker 8: No.

1450
01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 2: I like Oregon, but the problem with this made for

1451
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 2: TV four team Invitational playoff, It's still too subjective in

1452
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 2: my view. Even Movieville deserves consideration, and I know they

1453
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:12,799
Speaker 2: struggle Thursday night. I know they've had an easy schedule

1454
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 2: fairly well, but they're nine to one, and then you

1455
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 2: got to put some respect on their name. Next year.

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01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:19,640
Speaker 2: This is going to be championship based. You win your conference,

1457
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 2: you go from there. We'll explain it. I've explained it before.

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01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 2: We're headed towards arguments. I can feel it unless there's

1459
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 2: four undefeated teams in the final four, which has never

1460
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 2: happened before. So we shall see what we shall see

1461
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 2: coming up. The phenomenon of cultural cheating and NCAA football.

1462
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 2: I'll give you the history. You do not want to

1463
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Speaker 2: miss this commentary. I'm Bernie Frattle. You're listening to the

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01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 2: Bernie Fraddle Show on Fox Sports Radio. Keep it locked

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Speaker 1: Well, that's right, you heard the man.

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Speaker 2: should be by how you're probably asking yourself, what the

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Speaker 2: hell has happened to college football? Nothing really cheating, Come on, man,

1475
01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 2: it dates back to the first days of when college

1476
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:27,720
Speaker 2: football was played over one hundred years ago.

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Speaker 7: Hold that thought.

1478
01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:35,240
Speaker 2: Remember, Tattoo Gate in Ohio State was thirteen years ago,

1479
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 2: and at that time, Ohio State released what they felt

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01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:44,479
Speaker 2: was an adequate punishment for their transgressions, which involved their

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01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:48,280
Speaker 2: quarterback Trill prior several other Buckeyes, and they ended up

1482
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 2: having to vacate their twenty ten season, which included twelve

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01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:56,640
Speaker 2: wins as well as a Big Ten championship and a

1484
01:19:56,800 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 2: Sugar Bowl victory. That story was common knowledge in the

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01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 2: sports world. You're probably forgotten about it because there's been

1486
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:09,759
Speaker 2: so many since. People blamed everybody all around Columbus rivals

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01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 2: schools made fun treul pryor the players, the administration university,

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01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,639
Speaker 2: even their head coach, Jim Tressel. They were all put

1489
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:20,400
Speaker 2: through the gauntlet. Again. There was no objectivity then and

1490
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:25,639
Speaker 2: there's not now. That was thirteen years ago. You think

1491
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:28,760
Speaker 2: Ohio State and Michigan are the only schools that have

1492
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 2: been under fire. North Carolina University once had thirteen players

1493
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:38,000
Speaker 2: suspended for improper contact with an agent. Prior to this,

1494
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 2: you heard about Michigan with their unauthorized practices in cheeseburg Gate.

1495
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 2: At Cheeseburger Gate, how about usc Did Reggie Bush's parents

1496
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:51,599
Speaker 2: receive payment and gifts from an agent? Did they? Auburn

1497
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:54,760
Speaker 2: had their own cam Newton investigation the year they won

1498
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 2: the national championship. One particular year, Oregon LSU and cal

1499
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 2: All had alleged illegal recruitment by a Scott by the

1500
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 2: name of Willie Lyles. Now what did I say, What

1501
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:15,599
Speaker 2: has happened to college football? Nothing? See, because cheating goes

1502
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 2: all the way back to nine, nineteen nine. Oh yeah,

1503
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 2: he was even Michigan.

1504
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 7: Then.

1505
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 2: Michigan had a player on the roster by the name

1506
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:32,759
Speaker 2: of James Joy Miller. He played in all seven games

1507
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 2: that year, and he was a stud. He helped Michigan

1508
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:39,559
Speaker 2: to a six to one record. There's only one problem.

1509
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:44,280
Speaker 2: James Miller never went to or even enrolled in any

1510
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 2: of the classes during the season at the University of Michigan.

1511
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 2: This is nineteen oh nine. Now the national media caught

1512
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 2: on to this and they exposed this as actually one

1513
01:21:54,520 --> 01:22:01,599
Speaker 2: of college football's earliest scandals. Eight years later, Arguably the biggest,

1514
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 2: most notorious scandal in NCAA history was, of course, the

1515
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:09,760
Speaker 2: SMU football program. They flat out paid players to come

1516
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:12,680
Speaker 2: to their school and paid them salaries to play for

1517
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 2: their team. That was an incident that had statewide implications.

1518
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:25,760
Speaker 2: There were many many powerful and influential businessmen involved, state politicians.

1519
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:30,919
Speaker 2: It became a national story and the white hot spotlight

1520
01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:35,000
Speaker 2: of the national media put its focus on Dallas and

1521
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 2: didn't take it away for years. There were violations, repeat violations.

1522
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 2: It led the NCAA to impose its most serious sanction,

1523
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:51,640
Speaker 2: the death penalty. Now it's been forty years, cheating still persists.

1524
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 2: Now if you study history. People like to study history

1525
01:22:58,040 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 2: because they don't want to make the same mistakes twice.

1526
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 2: But sometimes they make those mistakes because they don't realize

1527
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 2: the mistake itself. When you consider college football, I don't

1528
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 2: think schools have ever realized that when you make the mistake,

1529
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 2: the mistake is frankly, typically not worth the cheating, whether

1530
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 2: you're cheating the system, whether you're cheating the rules. But

1531
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 2: it's the culture. It's the culture we live in that

1532
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:27,919
Speaker 2: surrounds the game as a whole. It's a microcosmo society.

1533
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 2: Go back to James Joy Miller in nineteen oh nine,

1534
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 2: they cheated a win. Michigan wanted that national pride. We've

1535
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 2: talked about this. If you go buy a house, the

1536
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 2: first thing you notice is the front yard. If you

1537
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 2: like the way the front yard looks, you might go

1538
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 2: look in the house. You might buy the house. College

1539
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 2: football programs are very much like the front yard of

1540
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 2: a house. They can bring great notoriety and frankly money

1541
01:23:56,800 --> 01:24:00,680
Speaker 2: to a university. There's just no two ways about it.

1542
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 2: It's pride which leads to success, notoriety money. SMU did

1543
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:10,799
Speaker 2: the same thing, but instead of lying about their attendants

1544
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 2: to use money to make it happen, they had boosters.

1545
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:16,759
Speaker 2: They pumped in thousands of dollars to fund this practice,

1546
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 2: which was clearly illegal paying players getting players to come

1547
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:23,519
Speaker 2: to your school by paying them, but it gave them

1548
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:26,840
Speaker 2: bragging rights over their other country clubers who maybe had

1549
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 2: gone to Texas or Texas A and M or Houston. Right,

1550
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:37,680
Speaker 2: SMU had the bragging rights. Today, the motive of a

1551
01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:44,599
Speaker 2: cheating is clearly pride and economics. But it's almost laughable

1552
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 2: to consider now that even though billions of dollars are

1553
01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 2: generated in college. It's still considered an amateur sport. I

1554
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 2: don't know that you can say it is anymore on

1555
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:55,960
Speaker 2: this day of nil, but it's still categorized that way.

1556
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:57,320
Speaker 2: I don't even know if the NC is going to

1557
01:24:57,320 --> 01:24:59,559
Speaker 2: be around a few years from now. There's so much

1558
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:02,000
Speaker 2: money involve in these games, there's no room for error,

1559
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:06,639
Speaker 2: and I think history tells us that the risks involved

1560
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 2: don't necessarily come near the profit that can be made.

1561
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 2: In other words, the longer time goes on, the juice

1562
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:18,640
Speaker 2: is not worth the squeeze. And I'm not trying to

1563
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:21,559
Speaker 2: be sanctimonious or preachy here, I'm just drawing upon history.

1564
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:24,679
Speaker 2: When you cheat, you try to get away with it. Well.

1565
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:28,800
Speaker 2: Teams see that as a better option than losing. But

1566
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 2: coaches worked their entire lives to become the head coach

1567
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:33,840
Speaker 2: of a big time program. Then once they get there,

1568
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:38,240
Speaker 2: they're expected to either revitalize a program that's in the

1569
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 2: dumps or continue the success of a program that they've

1570
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 2: had in the past. Jimmy Valvano said it best. He

1571
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 2: goes I've never seen a coach get an extension in

1572
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:50,720
Speaker 2: a contract and the headline read, well, we went eight

1573
01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 2: and eighteen last year, but all of our students graduated

1574
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 2: and got straight a's and no one got in trouble.

1575
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 2: Doesn't work that way. It's part of a systemic situation,

1576
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 2: and if you're not able to win, you're out on

1577
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 2: the street and that substantial paycheck you're getting is gone.

1578
01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:11,920
Speaker 2: Coaches make millions of dollars now. That's why they believe

1579
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 2: the only way to truly compete in Excel is to

1580
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:18,000
Speaker 2: have every advantage that the opposition has. So if the

1581
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:21,680
Speaker 2: guy in the next state is paying for players, the

1582
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 2: new coach has to do as well. If you're running

1583
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 2: an authorized practices, well you're a new coach. He's gonna

1584
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:30,559
Speaker 2: feel pressure to do that as well. If you're fixing grades,

1585
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:34,000
Speaker 2: well might the new coach do that also? I told

1586
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:37,400
Speaker 2: you the joke about back in the seventies. Fred Aker

1587
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 2: is the very colorful coach of the Texas Longhorns when

1588
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:44,559
Speaker 2: Texas really was Texas got a call from an academic

1589
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:48,200
Speaker 2: advisor and said, coach, do you know your star quarterback

1590
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:51,920
Speaker 2: is currently getting four f's and one D. What do

1591
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 2: you think about that? He said, I think he's spending

1592
01:26:56,200 --> 01:27:00,439
Speaker 2: entirely too much time on one subject. He played the

1593
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 2: following weekend, because if you start to lose, you only

1594
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:12,599
Speaker 2: lose games, and you not only lose fans and money

1595
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 2: from boosters, you also lose recruits. And Pete Rose said

1596
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 2: it best, coaching college football is a lot like driving

1597
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:24,840
Speaker 2: a stage coach. Without the horses, you're not going forward.

1598
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:29,360
Speaker 2: So what does a coach do? How does he get

1599
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:31,519
Speaker 2: that pay raise, How do you get that national recognition,

1600
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:34,520
Speaker 2: how do you get awards? It's one hell of a predicament.

1601
01:27:35,720 --> 01:27:38,360
Speaker 2: Reggie Bush, Cam Newton, Well, they see the NCAA is

1602
01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:40,639
Speaker 2: a stepping stone on their way to the NFL. It's

1603
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 2: a way station. They might be stripped of their awards

1604
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:46,400
Speaker 2: and sanctions and things of these happen, but they're on

1605
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:49,559
Speaker 2: to their life. For an eighteen year old who's told

1606
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:51,439
Speaker 2: his entire life he's great, will be a star in

1607
01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 2: the NFL, they're really not taking a hell of a risk,

1608
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 2: are they.

1609
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 8: Now?

1610
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:57,800
Speaker 2: I know Reggie Bush no longer has his heisman. No

1611
01:27:57,880 --> 01:27:59,280
Speaker 2: one will doubt that he was the best player in

1612
01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:03,040
Speaker 2: college football season, and to a degree it really didn't

1613
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:07,759
Speaker 2: affect his professional career. But the culture around college football

1614
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:11,600
Speaker 2: really doesn't aim to prevent cheating either, just kind of

1615
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 2: advise against it. Look at the callers we had at

1616
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 2: one o'clock. They admitted harpball really kind of got off

1617
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:19,720
Speaker 2: easy so far. And I know Michigan fans don't see

1618
01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:23,880
Speaker 2: it that way, but they could get that restraining order through.

1619
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:27,880
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens. But is there really a major

1620
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 2: deterrent to prevent cheating? It's like, you shouldn't do that.

1621
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:34,600
Speaker 2: We advise against it now? Is that a mistake? But

1622
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:39,719
Speaker 2: there's a massive machine, this contemporary machine called Division one football,

1623
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 2: and for a lot of folks, they make the world

1624
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:47,879
Speaker 2: go round, right. They're a major cog in our economy,

1625
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 2: the public. We thrive on it. We can't wait for it. Nonetheless,

1626
01:28:54,560 --> 01:29:01,639
Speaker 2: as they continue to influence lives, provide entertainment, commerce, it's

1627
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:04,120
Speaker 2: fraught with issues, and up to this point, the NCAA

1628
01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 2: has tried to do things. They put teams on probation,

1629
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:12,800
Speaker 2: they give scholarship sanctions, they vacate wins championships. None of

1630
01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 2: it has stopped cheating in college football. So the notion

1631
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:19,680
Speaker 2: that what Michigan is doing now is new is a

1632
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:25,040
Speaker 2: false notion because the truth of the matter is we're

1633
01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:29,679
Speaker 2: in a culture that to have the kind of success.

1634
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:33,360
Speaker 2: You need to survive. You do what you need to do,

1635
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 2: You do what you must do, and you justify it later.

1636
01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:40,760
Speaker 2: I don't see how the culture of college football can

1637
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:43,720
Speaker 2: ever be rebranded. Every year it gets bigger and better,

1638
01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 2: TV contracts get bigger and better. Next year will be

1639
01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 2: in a twelve team playoff. The pressure to perform will

1640
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:52,560
Speaker 2: only become greater. The basic belief that a majority of

1641
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:56,200
Speaker 2: college NCAA programs have violated the rules of way or

1642
01:29:56,240 --> 01:30:00,320
Speaker 2: another is probably fairly true, and one way or another,

1643
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:04,880
Speaker 2: somebody's probably done something. The NCAA really doesn't have the

1644
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:08,559
Speaker 2: resources to thoroughly investigate each and every school that's fair

1645
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:13,479
Speaker 2: and efficient. Now I've talked about, for instance, the Michigan situation.

1646
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:18,120
Speaker 2: Before the Big Ten got involved. The NCAA has been investigating.

1647
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:21,280
Speaker 2: I'm very connected and plugged into Michigan. They just started

1648
01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:25,040
Speaker 2: interviewing the coaching staff next week. We expect the Michigan portion,

1649
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 2: the NCAA portion of the Michigan investigation to conclude, I

1650
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:34,200
Speaker 2: don't know, maybe another three or four weeks. Then the

1651
01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:37,599
Speaker 2: NCAA has to afford Michigan a ninety day notice of allegation,

1652
01:30:37,680 --> 01:30:40,080
Speaker 2: which means Michigan. I'll have ninety days to respond. That's

1653
01:30:40,120 --> 01:30:42,560
Speaker 2: going to push your damp thing into February March. But

1654
01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:45,720
Speaker 2: it's going to go longer than that to adjudicate. These

1655
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:48,439
Speaker 2: things typically run between three hundred and forty eight and

1656
01:30:48,439 --> 01:30:51,360
Speaker 2: three hundred and sixty days. All right.

1657
01:30:52,160 --> 01:30:52,400
Speaker 8: I know.

1658
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:57,439
Speaker 2: There is this excessively idealistic belief that the NCAA should

1659
01:30:57,439 --> 01:31:00,400
Speaker 2: propose a resolution to have all their members school perform

1660
01:31:00,439 --> 01:31:03,360
Speaker 2: their own investigations of their own athletic departments and if

1661
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:06,639
Speaker 2: you have any infractions currently are in the past, submit

1662
01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:08,439
Speaker 2: the reports to the NCAA so they can know who

1663
01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:11,280
Speaker 2: and what to do and how these instances occurred. Then

1664
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:13,240
Speaker 2: they in school would not face any sanctions and be

1665
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:17,240
Speaker 2: able to start fresh. Sure the honor system? Sure? Sure,

1666
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:19,720
Speaker 2: how's that going to work out? An idea like this

1667
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:24,200
Speaker 2: two idealistic might benefit the schools might be in the NCAAA.

1668
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:27,720
Speaker 2: Schools would no longer have to cover up past in fractions,

1669
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:31,680
Speaker 2: the playing field would be more equal. That's not the

1670
01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:35,160
Speaker 2: real world. There is no solution, and I'm not here

1671
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:36,800
Speaker 2: to give you one. I don't even know what the

1672
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 2: rough sketch of a solution is. But past transgressions are there.

1673
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:47,240
Speaker 2: I don't know. And you heard my joke at the

1674
01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 2: top of the show, the Michigan drivers driving down the

1675
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:53,479
Speaker 2: road speeding. All of a sudden, the police officer pulls

1676
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:56,639
Speaker 2: them over, approaches the vehicle. The driver's upset. He says,

1677
01:31:56,640 --> 01:31:59,960
Speaker 2: why are you giving me a ticket? Everybody else's speeding

1678
01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:02,800
Speaker 2: out here too. The officer says, well, yeah, but you're

1679
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:06,120
Speaker 2: the only one that pulled over. That's what happened to Michigan.

1680
01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:09,960
Speaker 2: They got caught, and they're not the first and they're

1681
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:14,439
Speaker 2: not the last. Again, the notion that this is something new.

1682
01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:22,800
Speaker 2: I talked about Ohio State. Tattoogate mentioned names North Carolina, USC, Auburn, Oregon, LSU,

1683
01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:25,479
Speaker 2: CAL going all the way back to nineteen oh nine.

1684
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:29,360
Speaker 2: You can look it up. James Joy Miller played for Michigan,

1685
01:32:30,040 --> 01:32:33,240
Speaker 2: best player on the team, led the Wolverines to a

1686
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:37,200
Speaker 2: six to one record. However, he never attended Michigan, never

1687
01:32:37,320 --> 01:32:39,519
Speaker 2: enrolled in any of the classes during the season. The

1688
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:42,040
Speaker 2: national media caught onto it, and that was one of

1689
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:48,120
Speaker 2: the earliest college football scandals. I don't see it changing

1690
01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:53,120
Speaker 2: anytime soon. And again, the notion that this is the

1691
01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:58,320
Speaker 2: first time these things have happened, because what's happening in Michigan, Well,

1692
01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:01,719
Speaker 2: you know that's just silly, and that's just simply simply

1693
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:05,360
Speaker 2: not the case. Coming up, let's take a quick look

1694
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:09,120
Speaker 2: at the NFL as we are also bucking up against

1695
01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:11,439
Speaker 2: the Week ten of the NFL. You want proof of

1696
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:14,479
Speaker 2: how fast things can change, I'll give you a couple examples.

1697
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 2: And by the way, if the playoffs started today, I've

1698
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:20,160
Speaker 2: actually got what the matchups are for you, and we

1699
01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:23,040
Speaker 2: know that can change. But hope springs eternal. We're about

1700
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:27,160
Speaker 2: halfway through the halfway point of the NFL season. I'm

1701
01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:29,840
Speaker 2: Bernie fraddlewer Comedy Live from the Las Vegas Fox Firsts Radio,

1702
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:32,120
Speaker 2: Tirect dot com studios. Keep it locked you listen to

1703
01:33:32,160 --> 01:33:35,120
Speaker 2: the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio. All right, back

1704
01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:37,880
Speaker 2: on the Bernie Fraddle Show, Fox Sports Radio Company Live,

1705
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:43,680
Speaker 2: tyrack dot com studios here in a Las Vegas lest

1706
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:47,200
Speaker 2: do we not forget the NFL. It's funny how things change.

1707
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:50,800
Speaker 2: This truly is a week to week league. You want

1708
01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:53,320
Speaker 2: proof of how fast things can change in the NFL,

1709
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 2: will then look no further than the Minnesota Vikings, who

1710
01:33:57,400 --> 01:34:02,080
Speaker 2: have suddenly one forced games after a one fourth start

1711
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:06,920
Speaker 2: to their season, they find themselves in position for the

1712
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:11,120
Speaker 2: number seven and final NFC playoff spot as we had

1713
01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:15,240
Speaker 2: into Week tens games. If the playoffs were to start

1714
01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:19,280
Speaker 2: this week, which they aren't, I get it, okay, but

1715
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:22,759
Speaker 2: Kansas City would be the top seed in the AFC.

1716
01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:27,880
Speaker 2: Philadelphia would be the top seed in the NFC. So

1717
01:34:28,040 --> 01:34:33,280
Speaker 2: who would the playoff matchups be? Well, Cincinnati would visit Baltimore.

1718
01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:37,120
Speaker 2: Cincinnati would be the number seven seed. Baltimore currently the

1719
01:34:37,240 --> 01:34:39,840
Speaker 2: number two seed, and this is in the AFC. The

1720
01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:46,280
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns number six seed at the number three seed,

1721
01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:54,360
Speaker 2: Jacksonville Janaguars the number five seed, the Pittsburgh Steelers at

1722
01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:58,960
Speaker 2: the number four seed. Miami Dolphins heading over to the

1723
01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:02,920
Speaker 2: NFC mentioned Minnesota Vikings, they would go on the road

1724
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:07,000
Speaker 2: and don't look now the first time since nineteen ninety four,

1725
01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:09,360
Speaker 2: belove Detroit Lions. They weren't even playing at Ford Field

1726
01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:12,720
Speaker 2: and they were playing it at the Silver Dome. The

1727
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:15,439
Speaker 2: Lion's currently a number two seed, they would host the

1728
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:21,920
Speaker 2: number seven seed Minnesota Vikings. This one mike get ugly

1729
01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:26,439
Speaker 2: for some. The number six Dallas Cowboys would visit the

1730
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:30,240
Speaker 2: number three San Francisco forty nine ers and oh, by

1731
01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:34,760
Speaker 2: the way, yes Saturday night. Don't worry, I'll be making

1732
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:37,040
Speaker 2: fun of the Cowboys. They say it's a game of inches.

1733
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:40,400
Speaker 2: There were six instances in their game last week against

1734
01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:44,360
Speaker 2: Philadelphia where even though Mike McCarthy call it a game

1735
01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:48,160
Speaker 2: of inches, the Cowboys managed to come up short in

1736
01:35:48,280 --> 01:35:54,240
Speaker 2: every one of them. Unreal. It's just it's why. It's

1737
01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:57,439
Speaker 2: how they roll. But if the season were to end

1738
01:35:57,479 --> 01:36:00,320
Speaker 2: to day and it's not, Dallas would be a succeed.

1739
01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:03,639
Speaker 2: They would visit San Francisco. Finally, the Seattle Seahawks. Tip

1740
01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:08,479
Speaker 2: of the cap to the Pete Carroll led, Gino Smith led.

1741
01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:11,200
Speaker 2: They wrote me off. I ain't right back Seahawks. They're

1742
01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:13,880
Speaker 2: a pretty good team. Man, They're a pretty good team.

1743
01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:16,240
Speaker 2: They would go on the road to face the Saints.

1744
01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:19,240
Speaker 2: They're not a pretty good team. I don't actually, I

1745
01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:22,240
Speaker 2: think the Saints will fade. Derek Carr is everything I

1746
01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:24,160
Speaker 2: thought he wasn't in less I tried to tell you,

1747
01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:28,519
Speaker 2: I've tried to tell you for a long time. It's

1748
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:30,800
Speaker 2: why Carl was sixty three and seventy nine as a

1749
01:36:30,840 --> 01:36:34,400
Speaker 2: starter here with the Raiders. He had a not good

1750
01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:39,519
Speaker 2: season last year. His completion percentage sixty percent twenty ninth ranked.

1751
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:43,240
Speaker 2: Pass yards per game ranked fifteenth, pass yards per temp

1752
01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:46,920
Speaker 2: right nineteenth. His touchdown to interception ratio twenty four to

1753
01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:50,160
Speaker 2: fourteen ranked twenty first. His passer rating was only eighty

1754
01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:53,280
Speaker 2: six point three. That ranked for twenty fourth. Carr stunk

1755
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:55,400
Speaker 2: in the red zone. He stunk on third downs, just

1756
01:36:55,479 --> 01:36:58,360
Speaker 2: like he does in New Orleans. They make their big plays. Actually,

1757
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 2: when Taysom Hill comes in, I don't think Saints are

1758
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:04,720
Speaker 2: going to make the playoffs, but we'll see again. Don't

1759
01:37:04,760 --> 01:37:07,200
Speaker 2: get mad at me, Saints fans. Don't tell me, show

1760
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:11,799
Speaker 2: me do it on the field. By the way, the Jets,

1761
01:37:12,920 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 2: who are kind I'm secretly rooting for, I just damn okay,

1762
01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:19,960
Speaker 2: they're not dead yet. They got They're visiting the Raiders

1763
01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:22,840
Speaker 2: here in Las Vegas Sunday night, and then it's frankly

1764
01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:23,680
Speaker 2: kind of a must win.

1765
01:37:23,960 --> 01:37:24,160
Speaker 14: I know.

1766
01:37:24,320 --> 01:37:27,640
Speaker 2: But the Jets lost to the Chargers twenty seven to

1767
01:37:27,720 --> 01:37:31,080
Speaker 2: six on Monday night, one day after the Giants lost

1768
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:35,479
Speaker 2: to the Raiders thirty to six on Sunday. Could be

1769
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:38,680
Speaker 2: a doozy here Sunday night, now, New York fans, I

1770
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:42,080
Speaker 2: know it's tough to be a New York fan right now. Okay,

1771
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:46,760
Speaker 2: only four teams have scored eight or fewer offensive touchdowns

1772
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:49,559
Speaker 2: through eight games. That would be the twenty nineteen New

1773
01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:53,240
Speaker 2: York Jets, the twenty twenty New York Jets, the twenty

1774
01:37:53,320 --> 01:37:56,439
Speaker 2: twenty three New York Giants, the twenty twenty three New

1775
01:37:56,520 --> 01:38:00,720
Speaker 2: York Jets. Can't make this stuff up, folks, Take heart,

1776
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:03,720
Speaker 2: It's not easy to be a New York fan, a

1777
01:38:03,800 --> 01:38:08,599
Speaker 2: New York NFL fan right now, real quickly. I don't

1778
01:38:08,640 --> 01:38:11,000
Speaker 2: do this often, but we're getting down to the short strokes,

1779
01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:13,800
Speaker 2: and I don't really think that JJ McCarthy has had

1780
01:38:13,840 --> 01:38:15,400
Speaker 2: what I would consider to be a Heisman moment, and

1781
01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:16,920
Speaker 2: he has played a lot of fourth quarters and has

1782
01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:20,320
Speaker 2: to put up gaudy numbers. But if Michigan does continue

1783
01:38:20,360 --> 01:38:23,000
Speaker 2: and he does this thing, boy, I'll tell you there

1784
01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:25,479
Speaker 2: are worse choices but for one guy. And I've been

1785
01:38:25,560 --> 01:38:29,320
Speaker 2: on this guy's coat tails all year, Marvin Harrison Junior.

1786
01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:31,760
Speaker 2: By the way, the odds, it's become kind of a

1787
01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:35,559
Speaker 2: two man horse race between bow Knick and Michael Pennix,

1788
01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:38,519
Speaker 2: and Panis will be going up against Utah to be

1789
01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:41,599
Speaker 2: the best defense he has seen this year, bow Knicks

1790
01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:43,600
Speaker 2: gets to go up against usced Knicks has been on

1791
01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:46,280
Speaker 2: a terry. He's completing seventy percent of his passes, twenty

1792
01:38:46,360 --> 01:38:49,519
Speaker 2: five touchdowns, two interceptions. I think Orkon can win the

1793
01:38:49,520 --> 01:38:52,640
Speaker 2: whole thing. But if the Heisman Trophy is gonna go

1794
01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:56,920
Speaker 2: to the best player in the country, okay, well, I

1795
01:38:56,960 --> 01:39:01,439
Speaker 2: don't know how you don't give it to Marvin Harrison Junior.

1796
01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:05,160
Speaker 2: He's a wide receiver, I get it. But he's ninth nationally,

1797
01:39:05,280 --> 01:39:07,840
Speaker 2: leads the Big Ten with nine hundred and fourteen receiving yards.

1798
01:39:08,680 --> 01:39:12,599
Speaker 2: He's had one hundred yard games in Ohio State's pass

1799
01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:16,200
Speaker 2: five games he leads. He heads into Michigan States Saturday night.

1800
01:39:16,280 --> 01:39:19,160
Speaker 2: He scored at least one touchdown in five straight games,

1801
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:23,280
Speaker 2: including two touchdowns in the last two weeks against Wisconsin

1802
01:39:23,400 --> 01:39:28,640
Speaker 2: and Rutgers. You would suspicion that Marvin Harrison will have

1803
01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:32,400
Speaker 2: a big game Saturday. Michigan State's pass defense is tenth

1804
01:39:32,439 --> 01:39:34,360
Speaker 2: in the conference. They give over two hundred three yards

1805
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:36,760
Speaker 2: a game, and a year ago in East Lansting, he

1806
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:38,840
Speaker 2: went off seven receptions, one hundred and thirty one yards,

1807
01:39:38,880 --> 01:39:43,439
Speaker 2: three touchdowns. This game is being played in Columbus. I've

1808
01:39:43,439 --> 01:39:46,240
Speaker 2: said it many times, it's good to have Marvin Harrison

1809
01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:49,040
Speaker 2: whenever he needs a big catch. I mean, two weeks

1810
01:39:49,080 --> 01:39:51,160
Speaker 2: ago against Rutgers, he was men against boys, but he's

1811
01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:56,160
Speaker 2: been doing it all year. And Jordan Travis, he deserves

1812
01:39:56,240 --> 01:39:58,559
Speaker 2: honorable mention through for three hundred and sixty yards last

1813
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:01,720
Speaker 2: week without his two top receivers, Florida State I think

1814
01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:04,920
Speaker 2: can make the playoffs. And last but not least, Jayden

1815
01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:08,960
Speaker 2: Daniels at LSU. Alabama didn't have much luck stopping Daniels

1816
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:10,519
Speaker 2: last week, but he got knocked out of the game

1817
01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:13,400
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter. I think Marvin Harrison is the

1818
01:40:13,439 --> 01:40:17,160
Speaker 2: best player in the country. I got a soft spot

1819
01:40:17,200 --> 01:40:20,080
Speaker 2: for JJ McCarthy, but man bo Nicks, I don't know.

1820
01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:25,200
Speaker 2: We'll see. The Heisman Trophy thing is a crapshoot coming up.

1821
01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:28,040
Speaker 2: We've got Chris Perfett's World of Soccer. But first let's

1822
01:40:28,040 --> 01:40:30,479
Speaker 2: go back to our guy, Kevin Figures with the latest.

1823
01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:33,080
Speaker 1: All right, Bernie, and we'll start. In the NBA.

1824
01:40:33,240 --> 01:40:35,640
Speaker 11: Every game on the slate Friday night was part of

1825
01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:38,519
Speaker 11: a pool play matchup for the nd season tournament. The

1826
01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:41,000
Speaker 11: final game of the night saw the Lakers defeat Phoenix

1827
01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:43,799
Speaker 11: one twenty two to one nineteen as Lebron James scored

1828
01:40:43,880 --> 01:40:47,160
Speaker 11: thirty two points. That's eli's first road victory of the season.

1829
01:40:47,439 --> 01:40:49,960
Speaker 11: Their counterparts to the Clippers still winless on the road.

1830
01:40:50,040 --> 01:40:52,400
Speaker 11: They got torched by Dallas one forty four to one

1831
01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:55,559
Speaker 11: twenty six behind a forty four point effort from Luka

1832
01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:58,840
Speaker 11: dancik Utah defeat at Memphis one twenty seven to one

1833
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:01,759
Speaker 11: twenty one the Grizzly one in eight on the early season,

1834
01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:05,000
Speaker 11: twenty eight points for Jason Tatum as the Celtics defeated

1835
01:41:05,120 --> 01:41:07,720
Speaker 11: Brooklyn seventy six. Ers have won seven in a row,

1836
01:41:08,080 --> 01:41:10,479
Speaker 11: a one fourteen to one zero six victory in Detroit.

1837
01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:13,040
Speaker 11: News Out of the NFL, Bengals will be without receiver

1838
01:41:13,160 --> 01:41:15,840
Speaker 11: t Higgins against Houston as he nurses a hamstring injury.

1839
01:41:16,120 --> 01:41:19,599
Speaker 11: Receiver Jamar Chase questionable with the back issue. Packers cornerback

1840
01:41:19,680 --> 01:41:22,400
Speaker 11: Jay Alexander and linebacker Kay Walker both doubtful to play

1841
01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:26,240
Speaker 11: against Pittsburgh on Sunday as well. In college basketball, Friday Night, fourteenth,

1842
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:29,920
Speaker 11: Ring Arizona defeated Second Ring Duke at Cameron Indoor seventy

1843
01:41:29,960 --> 01:41:32,280
Speaker 11: eight to seventy three back to Bernie Freddo.

1844
01:41:32,600 --> 01:41:34,599
Speaker 2: Kevin couldn't help, but notice you seem to be every

1845
01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:36,840
Speaker 2: bit as fired up about the NBA tournament as ion

1846
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:37,360
Speaker 2: your thoughts.

1847
01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:38,320
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm all over it.

1848
01:41:38,600 --> 01:41:39,519
Speaker 2: Oh amazing.

1849
01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:41,760
Speaker 11: The highlight of my night, every single one is a

1850
01:41:41,800 --> 01:41:45,240
Speaker 11: Tuesday and Friday night. I'm glued to the n season tournament.

1851
01:41:45,320 --> 01:41:47,600
Speaker 11: Nothing better than a colorful floor with a game that

1852
01:41:47,680 --> 01:41:49,519
Speaker 11: has so much on the line for so many fans.

1853
01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:53,759
Speaker 2: How about that NBA cup man, I meant you gotta

1854
01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:57,160
Speaker 2: wear your cup? Never mind that joke, Kevin, great stuff.

1855
01:41:57,200 --> 01:41:59,479
Speaker 2: Tonight is always pal Thanks Bernie, all right in this

1856
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:03,080
Speaker 2: time every week, Hey, we covered all the world of

1857
01:42:03,160 --> 01:42:05,799
Speaker 2: soccer never sleeps. That's why we bring you Chris Purpfenz

1858
01:42:05,920 --> 01:42:06,599
Speaker 2: World of Soccer.

1859
01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:24,280
Speaker 3: This goals, the thrilling, finishes, the international drama. It's all

1860
01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:27,280
Speaker 3: here in this report from the World of Soccer.

1861
01:42:27,640 --> 01:42:30,160
Speaker 15: We are taking a bit of a odd detour to

1862
01:42:30,240 --> 01:42:32,840
Speaker 15: start World of Soccer, Bernie, because we are going down

1863
01:42:32,920 --> 01:42:37,559
Speaker 15: to Peru and the Peruvian Primera Professional, the top flight there.

1864
01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:41,600
Speaker 15: We're not usually going to talk about Peruvian soccer, but

1865
01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:44,520
Speaker 15: this week I think had one of the best examples

1866
01:42:44,600 --> 01:42:48,160
Speaker 15: of why I love soccer and what is known by.

1867
01:42:48,200 --> 01:42:50,880
Speaker 1: Soccer fans as bleep housery.

1868
01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:58,360
Speaker 15: Now, bleep housery is in short terms, condemnation, criticism, ridicule,

1869
01:42:58,600 --> 01:43:00,439
Speaker 15: but really it just means the end of the day,

1870
01:43:00,680 --> 01:43:04,479
Speaker 15: you're just really mad at someone else or another team,

1871
01:43:05,040 --> 01:43:09,040
Speaker 15: and you feel vindicated in doing any kind of gamesmanship

1872
01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:15,479
Speaker 15: or underhanded stuff because you feel slighted. Universitario is a

1873
01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:18,840
Speaker 15: club in Peru who has just won the top flight

1874
01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:24,080
Speaker 15: in Peruvian soccer, and they did it one three on aggregate.

1875
01:43:24,520 --> 01:43:30,080
Speaker 15: Over there in city rival club Alianza Lima, the cross

1876
01:43:30,120 --> 01:43:33,720
Speaker 15: city rival, and the second match of this draw was

1877
01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:39,080
Speaker 15: taking place in Alianza's own stadium. At the ninety six

1878
01:43:39,280 --> 01:43:40,080
Speaker 15: minute that.

1879
01:43:40,240 --> 01:43:41,639
Speaker 2: Game was zero two.

1880
01:43:42,120 --> 01:43:46,240
Speaker 15: Universitario players are ready to storm the field celebrate they've

1881
01:43:46,320 --> 01:43:51,160
Speaker 15: won the league, and right as the official kills the whistle,

1882
01:43:52,120 --> 01:43:54,760
Speaker 15: players start to go onto the field, all of the

1883
01:43:54,920 --> 01:43:59,760
Speaker 15: lights in the stadium shut off. The operators of Alianza

1884
01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:03,679
Speaker 15: Leema's stadium have decided, no, you don't get to celebrate,

1885
01:44:03,760 --> 01:44:06,360
Speaker 15: even with the TV. If, even with the TV's rolling,

1886
01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:09,760
Speaker 15: even with the stadium packs of the gills, nobody gets

1887
01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:12,400
Speaker 15: to see this. Kill the lights. We're not turning them

1888
01:44:12,439 --> 01:44:16,559
Speaker 15: back on. It's absolute bleep housery. It is a pure

1889
01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:22,080
Speaker 15: textbook definition of being mad and acting on being mad,

1890
01:44:22,680 --> 01:44:25,640
Speaker 15: and they didn't want their rivals to celebrate in their

1891
01:44:25,680 --> 01:44:29,519
Speaker 15: own house, in their own field, and by golly, go

1892
01:44:29,760 --> 01:44:31,479
Speaker 15: home because you can't do it here.

1893
01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:32,920
Speaker 2: We're mad.

1894
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:36,320
Speaker 15: The best part is in the world of soccer, this

1895
01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:40,120
Speaker 15: isn't the first time this has happened. In twenty twenty one,

1896
01:44:40,760 --> 01:44:45,439
Speaker 15: in the Mexican women's league Liga MX Feminil, the club

1897
01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:48,960
Speaker 15: Riatas won the championship in their stadium of their rival

1898
01:44:49,720 --> 01:44:53,519
Speaker 15: te Grays Feminil. After the match, the t grads shut

1899
01:44:53,640 --> 01:44:56,599
Speaker 15: down the lights in the middle of the celebration. Even

1900
01:44:56,680 --> 01:45:01,160
Speaker 15: though the television's crew had to do host match interviews

1901
01:45:01,400 --> 01:45:04,360
Speaker 15: from the field, they did it from a dark stadium.

1902
01:45:04,840 --> 01:45:07,320
Speaker 1: It's beautiful. It's beautiful.

1903
01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:11,400
Speaker 15: That's clean, old fashioned hate and just pettiness and passive

1904
01:45:11,439 --> 01:45:14,280
Speaker 15: aggression that you just love to see in this sport.

1905
01:45:14,479 --> 01:45:15,560
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable.

1906
01:45:15,880 --> 01:45:20,120
Speaker 15: Thank you, Thank you, Alianza Lima and Universitario. May you

1907
01:45:20,240 --> 01:45:24,000
Speaker 15: two hate each other until the end of days. In fact, Bernie,

1908
01:45:24,040 --> 01:45:27,240
Speaker 15: we should probably dedicate all of soccer today to bleep

1909
01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:31,680
Speaker 15: houseri because that's not the only example I have of

1910
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Speaker 15: people just acting wildly out of where they should be.

1911
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Speaker 15: These are the examples of what makes soccer so fun

1912
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Speaker 15: because sometimes people just lose their minds and wild things happen,

1913
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Speaker 15: and it doesn't mean to always be abroad. Take for example,

1914
01:45:46,720 --> 01:45:49,080
Speaker 15: the MLS Cup playoffs that are happening right now. We

1915
01:45:49,240 --> 01:45:52,320
Speaker 15: just had the first part of Round one, as FC

1916
01:45:52,479 --> 01:45:56,800
Speaker 15: Cincinnati outlasted the New York Red Bulls on penalty kicks here,

1917
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Speaker 15: giving them the second win in the round one, best

1918
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Speaker 15: of three series. They move on to play the Philadelphia Union.

1919
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Speaker 15: But wouldn't you believe it, what we're about to tell

1920
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Speaker 15: you stems from these penalty kicks because a second yellow

1921
01:46:11,160 --> 01:46:16,160
Speaker 15: card was given during the penalty kicks to FC Cincinnati

1922
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Speaker 15: center back Matt Miosga. Now, again, Cincinnati won this game,

1923
01:46:21,280 --> 01:46:23,960
Speaker 15: but that second yellow card, which doesn't become a red

1924
01:46:24,040 --> 01:46:26,280
Speaker 15: card because it was technically during the penalty kicks, that's

1925
01:46:26,439 --> 01:46:28,960
Speaker 15: separate times, but it does mean that he will not

1926
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Speaker 15: be able to play in the next match against the Union.

1927
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Speaker 15: According to sources who that the Athletic are signing off on,

1928
01:46:38,000 --> 01:46:42,240
Speaker 15: Matt Miosga forced his way into the into the officials

1929
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Speaker 15: locker room and had to be forcibly removed by stadium

1930
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Speaker 15: security because apparently he had an issue with those yellow

1931
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Speaker 15: cards with the with the referee, Victor Reevas, and wanted

1932
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Speaker 15: to speak with him and it might have.

1933
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Speaker 1: Gotten a little out of control.

1934
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Speaker 15: Now, this isn't as funny as it's just in the

1935
01:47:01,960 --> 01:47:05,759
Speaker 15: broader scheme of soccer, just because we've seen enough chances

1936
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Speaker 15: where when conflicts happen with the officials sometimes it turns

1937
01:47:11,720 --> 01:47:15,360
Speaker 15: very violent. But still the grand scheme of things, I

1938
01:47:15,479 --> 01:47:17,680
Speaker 15: don't know of any case where, even as bad as

1939
01:47:17,720 --> 01:47:19,720
Speaker 15: the officiating has been in the NFL this year, that

1940
01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:22,320
Speaker 15: anyone is going and picking a fight with someone like

1941
01:47:22,439 --> 01:47:26,080
Speaker 15: Sean hocu Lee. It is something that is very insane

1942
01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:30,559
Speaker 15: and very very soccer. And now let's turn our attention

1943
01:47:30,760 --> 01:47:34,160
Speaker 15: to reputations and how easy it is to see them

1944
01:47:34,240 --> 01:47:39,599
Speaker 15: destroyed in front of rabid fans who simply don't forgive anything. Ever,

1945
01:47:40,080 --> 01:47:43,719
Speaker 15: we have to talk about goalkeeper jan Luigi Dona Ruma,

1946
01:47:44,640 --> 01:47:47,560
Speaker 15: one of my favorite goalkeepers. He was the one on

1947
01:47:47,760 --> 01:47:53,120
Speaker 15: the Italian team that won Euro twenty twenty. He is fantastic.

1948
01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:55,360
Speaker 15: He's one of the best young goalkeepers out there. At

1949
01:47:55,400 --> 01:47:59,560
Speaker 15: age twenty four, however, he plays for Parising Germaine, but

1950
01:47:59,680 --> 01:48:02,800
Speaker 15: he can him up from AC Milan and played some

1951
01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:06,000
Speaker 15: of his career there until he got a much bigger

1952
01:48:06,160 --> 01:48:09,320
Speaker 15: lucrative offer from Paris Saint Germain. And boy, let me

1953
01:48:09,400 --> 01:48:13,880
Speaker 15: tell you, Milan fans have never, ever, ever forgiven Dona

1954
01:48:13,960 --> 01:48:18,719
Speaker 15: Ruma for that, for abandoning the Milan system and going

1955
01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:22,000
Speaker 15: with playing with Paris Saint Germain for more money. You

1956
01:48:22,120 --> 01:48:24,400
Speaker 15: may think it's logical, you might think it is a

1957
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:26,240
Speaker 15: business deal. At the end of the day, that's just

1958
01:48:26,280 --> 01:48:28,479
Speaker 15: the way it is. You can't tell that to the

1959
01:48:28,600 --> 01:48:33,080
Speaker 15: AC Milan ultras. They don't care loyalty over money and

1960
01:48:33,320 --> 01:48:36,080
Speaker 15: they have let Dona Ruma know it every time he's

1961
01:48:36,160 --> 01:48:40,160
Speaker 15: come near the Milan stadium of San Siro, even when

1962
01:48:40,200 --> 01:48:44,400
Speaker 15: he was wearing Italian colors. Back on September twelfth, playing

1963
01:48:44,439 --> 01:48:48,959
Speaker 15: against Ukraine as a member of Team Italy Milan, Milanese

1964
01:48:49,080 --> 01:48:51,920
Speaker 15: fans booed the hell out of him, to the point

1965
01:48:51,960 --> 01:48:57,120
Speaker 15: where Italian members of his own team described it as shameful. Well,

1966
01:48:57,600 --> 01:49:01,440
Speaker 15: Paris Saint Germain just played AC Milan and in Sansio

1967
01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:04,960
Speaker 15: again this week in the Champions League and wouldn't you

1968
01:49:05,040 --> 01:49:07,599
Speaker 15: know it, The Milanese Ultras were up to their old

1969
01:49:07,800 --> 01:49:12,880
Speaker 15: tricks as they printed out an unbelievable amount of fake

1970
01:49:13,080 --> 01:49:16,360
Speaker 15: money that looked like American dollars with Dona Ruma's face

1971
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Speaker 15: on it and the word the Italian word mercenario. Now,

1972
01:49:21,240 --> 01:49:25,320
Speaker 15: in case you need a quick translation, that is mercenary. Obviously,

1973
01:49:25,640 --> 01:49:28,920
Speaker 15: these fink bake notes were ringed down from the stands

1974
01:49:29,000 --> 01:49:32,160
Speaker 15: upon the game, and Dona Ruma had to go up

1975
01:49:32,200 --> 01:49:34,479
Speaker 15: and pick some of them off off the pitch while

1976
01:49:34,560 --> 01:49:35,400
Speaker 15: he was standing there.

1977
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Speaker 1: In net.

1978
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Speaker 15: It is incredibly crass, It is incredibly disrespectful for Dona

1979
01:49:40,680 --> 01:49:44,920
Speaker 15: rum and his professional career, and the Milanese fans don't care.

1980
01:49:45,479 --> 01:49:50,040
Speaker 15: They don't and that is once again another case of

1981
01:49:50,240 --> 01:49:53,479
Speaker 15: bleep housery. Bernie, so I hope this episode has been

1982
01:49:54,240 --> 01:49:58,040
Speaker 15: instructive to people out there that emotions, more than anything,

1983
01:49:58,240 --> 01:50:01,920
Speaker 15: rule the world of soccer. That you don't need to

1984
01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:04,360
Speaker 15: be playing fair, you don't need to say hey, good

1985
01:50:04,439 --> 01:50:07,320
Speaker 15: game afterwards, you just need to be mad as hell

1986
01:50:07,760 --> 01:50:10,760
Speaker 15: all the time twenty four to seven, because that's what

1987
01:50:10,960 --> 01:50:13,680
Speaker 15: makes this sport so damn entertaining.

1988
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Speaker 1: We'll see you next time on the World of.

1989
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Speaker 2: Soccer here, come on, Solovinchenzel. I love all the Italian

1990
01:50:20,200 --> 01:50:23,920
Speaker 2: references tonight, Chris, I wish I could remember that goalie's name.

1991
01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:26,679
Speaker 2: I could swear he's on the menu at Olive Garden.

1992
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:30,040
Speaker 2: But that's the story for a different day. Chris perfets

1993
01:50:30,840 --> 01:50:35,839
Speaker 2: World of Soccer coming up. We give our final thoughts

1994
01:50:36,920 --> 01:50:40,160
Speaker 2: on what's about to happen here in seven hours and

1995
01:50:40,240 --> 01:50:44,599
Speaker 2: twenty minutes. Not will Michigan beat Penn State? Or will

1996
01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:48,360
Speaker 2: James Franklin get the Monkey office back? Will Jim Harbaugh

1997
01:50:48,520 --> 01:50:50,960
Speaker 2: James Joseph Harbaugh, Will he in fact be on the

1998
01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:55,960
Speaker 2: sidelines Saturday for Michigan's game at Penn State. We know

1999
01:50:56,040 --> 01:50:59,120
Speaker 2: he's in town. We'll see if he's on the sidelines.

2000
01:50:59,400 --> 01:51:01,280
Speaker 2: I'll break it on for you, give you all the

2001
01:51:01,320 --> 01:51:06,440
Speaker 2: information we have and explain the terms and the analysis

2002
01:51:06,479 --> 01:51:08,560
Speaker 2: you've been hearing, and make it makes sense for you.

2003
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Speaker 2: I'm Bernie Frattle or come to you live from the

2004
01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:13,519
Speaker 2: Las Vegas Fox Sports Radio Tirack dot Com studios. Keep

2005
01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:15,920
Speaker 2: it locked right here. You're listening to the Bernie Frattle

2006
01:51:15,960 --> 01:51:19,479
Speaker 2: Show on Fox Sports Radio. All right, we're wrapping it

2007
01:51:19,600 --> 01:51:23,080
Speaker 2: up on the Bernie Frattle Show, Fox Sports Radio come

2008
01:51:23,120 --> 01:51:25,479
Speaker 2: to you live from the tyraq dot com studios here

2009
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Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. Before I go any further, I want

2010
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Speaker 2: to thank my broadcast team back in Los Angeles. They've

2011
01:51:32,840 --> 01:51:38,519
Speaker 2: been with me since eleven pm Pacific on Friday night.

2012
01:51:39,200 --> 01:51:43,679
Speaker 2: Kevin Figures on the updates, our technical producer Mark Ramsey,

2013
01:51:44,640 --> 01:51:48,120
Speaker 2: and of course Shave Movenguarde. Guys. Great job as always

2014
01:51:48,160 --> 01:51:51,040
Speaker 2: turning all the dials, keeping us glued together. And I

2015
01:51:51,080 --> 01:51:55,519
Speaker 2: will be back on these airwaves Saturday night later tonight

2016
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Speaker 2: eleven pm Pacific till three am, and of course we'll

2017
01:51:59,760 --> 01:52:03,759
Speaker 2: have a full blown college football recap the results from Saturday,

2018
01:52:04,560 --> 01:52:08,439
Speaker 2: as well as the new ramifications and NFL preview, college

2019
01:52:08,479 --> 01:52:12,479
Speaker 2: basketball preview, all kinds of stuff and certainly new editions

2020
01:52:12,520 --> 01:52:13,880
Speaker 2: of what kind of brand new fool of you?

2021
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:14,680
Speaker 8: And what my name?

2022
01:52:15,520 --> 01:52:19,320
Speaker 2: Great fun for the whole family. But about seven hours

2023
01:52:19,360 --> 01:52:23,240
Speaker 2: and twelve minutes we will witness number two Michigan heading

2024
01:52:23,280 --> 01:52:26,479
Speaker 2: into their biggest game of the season at number nine

2025
01:52:26,560 --> 01:52:29,920
Speaker 2: Penn State. This is finally a monster matchup. It has

2026
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:34,920
Speaker 2: big ten ramifications, it has national championship implications, but it

2027
01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:38,880
Speaker 2: does have one major question mark, and that question mark

2028
01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:42,439
Speaker 2: is whether or not Michigan coach Jim Harbaugh will be

2029
01:52:42,560 --> 01:52:44,679
Speaker 2: on the sidelines leading his team out of the field,

2030
01:52:45,800 --> 01:52:50,599
Speaker 2: or whether or not he will be nowhere near the stadium.

2031
01:52:51,479 --> 01:52:54,639
Speaker 2: That's in the hands of a judge, as the Michigan

2032
01:52:54,680 --> 01:52:59,280
Speaker 2: Wolverines have have filed the temporary restraining order. Now let

2033
01:52:59,320 --> 01:53:04,920
Speaker 2: me break this down. I'm for you. Finally, at approximately

2034
01:53:04,960 --> 01:53:10,040
Speaker 2: I'm going to say, around three thirty Pacific time, Michigan's

2035
01:53:10,040 --> 01:53:14,439
Speaker 2: playing was still in the air. Tony Petiti, the new

2036
01:53:14,439 --> 01:53:19,240
Speaker 2: commissioner of the Big Ten, suspended Jim Harbaugh for the

2037
01:53:19,360 --> 01:53:23,760
Speaker 2: final remaining three games of the regular season Penn State

2038
01:53:23,960 --> 01:53:29,960
Speaker 2: at Penn State today, at Maryland November eighteenth, and of

2039
01:53:30,040 --> 01:53:32,240
Speaker 2: course at home against Ohio State to finish the season.

2040
01:53:32,760 --> 01:53:37,559
Speaker 2: Harbaugh can coach during the week, and should Michigan advance

2041
01:53:37,640 --> 01:53:39,719
Speaker 2: to the Big Ten championship game, he would be eligible

2042
01:53:39,760 --> 01:53:43,559
Speaker 2: to coach there, and should Michigan advance to the fourteen playoff,

2043
01:53:43,800 --> 01:53:47,880
Speaker 2: same situation. But for now, when you like it or not,

2044
01:53:48,120 --> 01:53:52,759
Speaker 2: Tony Petiti believed he had sufficient evidence that Michigan violated

2045
01:53:52,800 --> 01:54:00,439
Speaker 2: the Sportsmanship policy. How in his view, Michigan using an

2046
01:54:00,520 --> 01:54:08,439
Speaker 2: impermissible tactic in person scouting. He believed that was a

2047
01:54:09,320 --> 01:54:14,559
Speaker 2: you know, that was an illegal operation to do that now,

2048
01:54:15,439 --> 01:54:18,120
Speaker 2: and he also believed that gave Michigan an unfair competitive advantage.

2049
01:54:18,240 --> 01:54:20,479
Speaker 2: You can argue all day, but he's a commissioner of

2050
01:54:20,520 --> 01:54:23,479
Speaker 2: the Big Ten and he had the autonomy to make

2051
01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:25,519
Speaker 2: that decision. It was under, frankly, a lot of pressure

2052
01:54:26,200 --> 01:54:29,479
Speaker 2: to do so. So as we knew what happened, Michigan

2053
01:54:29,560 --> 01:54:32,800
Speaker 2: filed him a junction. No people hear these terms. Do

2054
01:54:32,800 --> 01:54:35,920
Speaker 2: you know what an injunction is? An injunction is simply

2055
01:54:35,960 --> 01:54:39,760
Speaker 2: a court order that requires an individual or a person

2056
01:54:40,480 --> 01:54:44,320
Speaker 2: to refrain from an act. So what if that injunction

2057
01:54:44,520 --> 01:54:47,120
Speaker 2: will be heard by the judge. He's got a lot

2058
01:54:47,200 --> 01:54:49,960
Speaker 2: of paperwork to pour through in the next seven hours.

2059
01:54:50,040 --> 01:54:52,440
Speaker 2: I don't know if we'll see Harbaugh on the sideline Saturday.

2060
01:54:52,480 --> 01:54:57,400
Speaker 2: We might, but even if you don't Saturday, there's still

2061
01:54:57,400 --> 01:54:59,480
Speaker 2: a chance you could see him next week against Maryland.

2062
01:54:59,520 --> 01:55:02,920
Speaker 2: But we shall se see. There are three types of injunctions.

2063
01:55:02,920 --> 01:55:06,400
Speaker 2: There's a permanent injunction, there's a preliminary injunction. There's what's

2064
01:55:06,440 --> 01:55:10,320
Speaker 2: called a temporary restraining order. That's what Michigan filed a

2065
01:55:10,400 --> 01:55:13,040
Speaker 2: temporary restraining order, which is just another fancy word for

2066
01:55:13,120 --> 01:55:19,080
Speaker 2: preliminary injunction. Now, for Michigan to prevail, and again, the

2067
01:55:19,160 --> 01:55:22,080
Speaker 2: judge is going to have to pour through a lot

2068
01:55:22,200 --> 01:55:25,920
Speaker 2: of paperwork that it was filed last night Friday night

2069
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:29,480
Speaker 2: in Washington doc County. Washington County is the county where

2070
01:55:29,960 --> 01:55:33,280
Speaker 2: Michigan University of Michigan resides, the City Van Arbor resides,

2071
01:55:34,200 --> 01:55:41,720
Speaker 2: Washington County, Detroit, and Wayne County. What Michigan and their

2072
01:55:41,800 --> 01:55:44,480
Speaker 2: lawyers are going to have to do in order to

2073
01:55:44,800 --> 01:55:49,960
Speaker 2: prevail in this temporary restraining order is to one proved

2074
01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:52,600
Speaker 2: to the judge that in fact, Michigan has a real

2075
01:55:52,720 --> 01:55:57,280
Speaker 2: fighting chance to win this case, that sufficient in evidence

2076
01:55:57,400 --> 01:56:02,400
Speaker 2: wasn't presented for Michigan's not for these claims or the

2077
01:56:02,480 --> 01:56:04,680
Speaker 2: second thing and the second thing, and this is a bar,

2078
01:56:05,080 --> 01:56:08,000
Speaker 2: this is a bar to cross. Michigan is going to

2079
01:56:08,200 --> 01:56:14,200
Speaker 2: have to provide sufficient evidence that they will suffer irreparable

2080
01:56:14,280 --> 01:56:19,400
Speaker 2: damage as a result of this temporary restraining order. Now,

2081
01:56:19,440 --> 01:56:21,839
Speaker 2: the attorneys from Michigan have asked for a speedy decision.

2082
01:56:21,920 --> 01:56:24,760
Speaker 2: They want Harbaugh to be allowed to coach against Penn

2083
01:56:24,840 --> 01:56:28,360
Speaker 2: State later on today, and they've already gone. They're already

2084
01:56:28,400 --> 01:56:30,800
Speaker 2: on record is saying, quote, the harm of the university

2085
01:56:30,840 --> 01:56:34,160
Speaker 2: student athletes to be irreversible. I'm not sure if that's

2086
01:56:34,200 --> 01:56:39,040
Speaker 2: true or not. I haven't heard their argument specifically. Again,

2087
01:56:39,200 --> 01:56:42,280
Speaker 2: in case you missed it, it's the Big Ten Conference,

2088
01:56:42,400 --> 01:56:45,480
Speaker 2: not the NCAA. The nca hasn't finished their investigation at

2089
01:56:45,560 --> 01:56:48,800
Speaker 2: the Big Ten and Tony Battiti discipline Michigan Friday for

2090
01:56:48,880 --> 01:56:52,360
Speaker 2: what they call an elaborate in person scouting scheme that

2091
01:56:52,480 --> 01:56:56,440
Speaker 2: again is also being investigated by the NCAA, which we

2092
01:56:56,480 --> 01:56:58,960
Speaker 2: don't believe that the investigation will be done for three

2093
01:56:59,040 --> 01:57:00,800
Speaker 2: or four weeks and then miss you don't have ninety

2094
01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:04,400
Speaker 2: days notice valegation the response. So that's going to push

2095
01:57:04,400 --> 01:57:07,520
Speaker 2: to February, marching well into the summer. Most likely Michigan

2096
01:57:07,600 --> 01:57:11,560
Speaker 2: and their leadership to insist that conference by laws require

2097
01:57:11,560 --> 01:57:14,760
Speaker 2: the NCAA investigation to play out, that petit overstepped his power.

2098
01:57:15,240 --> 01:57:17,760
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's true or not. It's very gray.

2099
01:57:18,480 --> 01:57:21,840
Speaker 2: And it all started because a low level staffer named

2100
01:57:21,920 --> 01:57:25,760
Speaker 2: Connor Stallions was buying tickets to games and Michigan's opponents

2101
01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:29,080
Speaker 2: sending people recording sideline signals I don't know if there's

2102
01:57:29,080 --> 01:57:31,840
Speaker 2: ever been a situation where a national championship contender in

2103
01:57:31,880 --> 01:57:35,760
Speaker 2: the final stretch of the season and their coach was

2104
01:57:35,800 --> 01:57:40,240
Speaker 2: suspended with three games to go. I'm really looking forward

2105
01:57:40,280 --> 01:57:42,920
Speaker 2: to watching this game Saturday. I think Michigan's fired up

2106
01:57:42,960 --> 01:57:45,160
Speaker 2: by this. We'll see what happens, and we'll see how

2107
01:57:45,200 --> 01:57:47,600
Speaker 2: this story plays out. And I promise you I'll be

2108
01:57:47,720 --> 01:57:49,840
Speaker 2: on top of it. If any news breaks between now

2109
01:57:49,880 --> 01:57:53,760
Speaker 2: and the Venders Saturday, you'll have it Saturday night. In

2110
01:57:53,840 --> 01:57:57,480
Speaker 2: the meantime, keep it locked up. Next Anthony Gargano and

2111
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Speaker 2: Jason Fitz Fox Sports Radio,