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Speaker 2: You're listening to the Best of the Odd Couple.

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Speaker 1: Can we talk about the meltdown that happened last night

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Speaker 1: with the Ravens who were up with four and a

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Speaker 1: half minutes to go forty to twenty five. People were

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Speaker 1: looking going, my goodness, gracious, look at them roll on

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Speaker 1: the road of first game of the year, right forty

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Speaker 1: points on the roll was IMPRESSEDO it was, and then

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Speaker 1: the rains came as far as them melting down.

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Speaker 3: And then Josh Allen put on his Superman cape and

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Speaker 3: save Krypton. That's right, because the Baltimore Ravens you mentioned

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Speaker 3: it led by fifteen points under five minutes to go

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Speaker 3: in the game. Before last night, NFL teams had won

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Speaker 3: seven hundred and seventeen consecutive games in that scenario. In fact,

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Speaker 3: the last team last time a team lost a game

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Speaker 3: like that was in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 4: It gets worse though. Baltimore, with about.

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Speaker 3: Seven minutes left in the game, according to ESPN win

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Speaker 3: probability Index, had a ninety eight point seven percent chance

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Speaker 3: of winning the game, and they lost. It was the

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Speaker 3: eight times in twenty twenty one that they lost the

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Speaker 3: game with at least a ninety percent win probability, three

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Speaker 3: more than the next closest team.

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Speaker 4: I got some more numbers for you. Check this out.

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Speaker 3: The Ravens became the first team in NFL history to

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Speaker 3: lose a game where they had forty plus points and

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Speaker 3: two hundred and thirty five plus rushing yards. NFL teams

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Speaker 3: are now two seventy seven and one in that situation

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Speaker 3: according to the Associated.

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Speaker 1: This reminds me of that Knicks playoff game by next

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Speaker 1: to the Celtics. Right, that's the same same kind of deal, right,

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Speaker 1: like just the game, you can't believe it.

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Speaker 3: And then here's the worst one. If you're a Harball

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Speaker 3: fan or if you're a Harball family member. Head coach

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Speaker 3: John Harbaugh now has the most losses with a ten

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Speaker 3: plus point second half lead seventeen by any head coach

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Speaker 3: in at least the last thirty five season.

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Speaker 4: All right, and I want you to go right there.

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Speaker 1: All the people we know the easy pointing of the finger,

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Speaker 1: and I've heard it all day. Lamar should have just

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Speaker 1: run for the first down. Okay, blame Lamar even though

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Speaker 1: he played a really good game. Derek Henry I fumble,

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Speaker 1: blah blah blah, that was the game.

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Speaker 4: I'm done with both of those guys.

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Speaker 1: As far as that, I'm going to be lazy and

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Speaker 1: just pick one of those two players and say they're

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Speaker 1: the reason why. If I was ownership of the Baltimore

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Speaker 1: Ravens last night, I would have fired John Harball. John

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Speaker 1: Harbaugh should be fired as cod of the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 1: This happens Kelvin way too often.

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Speaker 4: With the talent that they have.

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Speaker 1: Rob g just told you seventeen times they've given up

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Speaker 4: I get it. He won a super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't mean you're a pope or a Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: justice and you get to have your job forever.

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Speaker 4: Because you won a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Starting to remind me of Mike McCarthy with the Packers.

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Speaker 4: They won a super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Disappointment after disappointment after disappointment. One day you wake up

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Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers hasn't won in ten years? Right, seriously,

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Speaker 1: stop giving Harvard pass. Do you remember the playoff game

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Speaker 1: in the AFC Championship against the Chiefs when they had

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Speaker 1: some game play where Lamar threw the ball down instead

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Speaker 4: Remember that that was another one.

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Speaker 1: I can go on and on and on about the

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Speaker 1: bad situations, the bad losses, and there's one common denominator.

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Speaker 4: It's John Harball It miss time, stop it. I get it.

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Speaker 1: He won a Super Bowl. You would again sometimes you

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Speaker 4: I get it. There aren't that many coaches with a

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Speaker 1: Their back pocket. But man, it's Lamar's eighth year with

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Speaker 4: Keep playing.

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Speaker 1: You wake up one day and ten or twelve years

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Speaker 4: He never won.

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Speaker 1: If you can't get fired off of a piss poor

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Speaker 1: Tom Thibodeau. You know why he got fired because he

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Speaker 1: had performance like that. He had gotten the Knicks shoot

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Speaker 1: up the furthest they had gone and since Moby Dick

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Speaker 1: a big situation that was supposed to be a revenge

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Speaker 1: redemption game. They were supposed to storm the rust of

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Speaker 4: John Harball definitely gets some of the smoke.

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Speaker 5: You got seventeen comebacks when you had a double digit

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Speaker 5: The issue that I have a couple of things. One,

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Speaker 5: you're not gonna, They're not gonna specifically the Ravens. The

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Speaker 5: Ravens are kind of operating as an AFC version of

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Speaker 5: the what the Green Bay Packers kind of do. Also

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Speaker 5: what the Steelers do in their own division, Meaning, we

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Speaker 5: don't want a lot of chaos, we don't want a

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Speaker 5: bunch of turnover. You don't want a bunch of new

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Speaker 5: gms and a bunch of head coaches and a bunch

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Speaker 5: That organization has been well run to the tune of

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Speaker 5: all these postseason you know, getting into the postseason, also

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Speaker 5: getting in the Super Bowls.

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Speaker 4: Over the last you know, twenty five years. They won

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Speaker 5: Give it ten years ago or so, and they keep

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Speaker 5: giving themselves shots with Lamar Jackson over the last seven

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Speaker 5: eight years. So the issue, I get what you're saying,

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Speaker 5: he has these comebacks on his watch, but you gotta

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Speaker 5: be also saying these comebacks are on the watch of Lamar.

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Speaker 5: And you know, I believe Lamar Jackson's best player in football,

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Speaker 5: been saying it since I've been on the show, and

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Speaker 4: You and I agree on that. We have that same sentiment.

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Speaker 5: But the onus has to fall on we believe the

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Speaker 5: best player in the NFL, the guy who has won

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Speaker 5: multiple MVPs and should have won last year as well,

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Speaker 5: he has to find a way in some of these Now.

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Speaker 5: Last night, Derek Henry did them no justice with the fumble,

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Speaker 5: they some of the play calling, like to me, I'm

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Speaker 5: going on that fourth down because I have Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 4: You have there? Should you watch the defense for the

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Speaker 4: Ravens that's on Lamar.

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Speaker 5: No, no, man, I'm just saying, like, hold on, I'll

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Speaker 4: Let me cooking.

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Speaker 5: I say so I'm talking a more broader picture because

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Speaker 5: if I have to take the broader picture for firing

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Speaker 5: So I have to get the broader because Lamar played

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Speaker 5: his butt off like he always does.

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Speaker 6: But some of those.

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Speaker 5: Eight double digit leads in the lasts and years are

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Speaker 5: of those teams. Lamar Jackson is so talented he can

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Speaker 5: find a way. Sometimes Lamar Jackson can look at John

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Speaker 5: Harbaugh and say, nah, bro like I've seen many quarterbacks do,

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Speaker 5: we're going for this, And he look at Derrick Henry.

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Speaker 5: He looked at himself and said, we're getting two plus

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Speaker 5: or so. I would be very happy with how we

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Speaker 5: then you let Josh Allen go ballistic two hundred and

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Speaker 4: So that's why I'm going for rob to your.

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Speaker 5: Point, because the defense hadn't been great, so I'm saying

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Speaker 5: we can't stop. Then now all of a sudden, he's

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Speaker 5: looking like the greatest quarterback we've ever seen. So I'm

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Speaker 5: about to go for this. I'm not listening none y'all

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Speaker 5: talking about put it on me. I am the leader

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Speaker 5: Fourth and two. I got Derrick Henry, I got myself,

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Speaker 5: I got Jay Flowers, I got tight ends, I got

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Speaker 5: this offensive line. We're going to get two yards. And sometimes,

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Speaker 5: as the leader of the team, you make that happen.

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Speaker 5: So it's not his fault.

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Speaker 4: They lost.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, Now, Lamar played outstanding, But what I'm saying is overarching.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes Lamar has to go ahead and be the reason

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Speaker 4: He had to find a way. And to me, did

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Speaker 4: you hear what you just said? Though?

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Speaker 5: No, No, what I'm saying is specifically on that play,

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Speaker 5: not the overwrocking game. But to your point of firing Harball,

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Speaker 5: you can't just fire somebody. And this is where me

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Speaker 5: Is none of that makes any sense to me if

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Speaker 1: It's not like you're firing after after two or three years.

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Speaker 1: This is going on for long, and the Lamar has

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Speaker 1: been around for eight years. He's one of the most talented,

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Speaker 4: So no, I didn't say no smoke.

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Speaker 1: I didn't say every game but seventeen double digit loss

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Speaker 1: and you're sitting here talking about Lamar when.

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Speaker 4: The defense gave up.

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Speaker 5: In the fourth quarter, three points in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 5: and you're talking about Lamar. What I'm saying is they're

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Speaker 5: not going to get rid of John Harbor.

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Speaker 4: Stop, brother, they going to I'm telling you they should

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Speaker 4: I'm not.

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Speaker 2: Just like.

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Speaker 4: I told you, Chimp should have been fired. You sat

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Speaker 1: Oh Jim just got them to the rest Eastern Conference finals.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's the best thing the Knicks have

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Speaker 4: And guess what the Knicks did. They said enough and enough.

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Speaker 5: Don't look like they're gonna be a great co What

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Speaker 5: you don't even know about that ball? John Harball said. No,

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Speaker 5: John Harball is not absolutely he's way. He's terrible. Now

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Speaker 5: he's been terrible. That gets you in the bus. You're

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Speaker 5: not fire, I'm.

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Speaker 4: Not super Bowl.

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Speaker 5: Has he gotten you with the mob. Tell me, I

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Speaker 5: said he gets you in the possession of super Bowl,

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Speaker 5: then give me to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Ye get me?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Lamar, you.

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Speaker 5: Don't have a ConA get you just like in just

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Speaker 5: like in Green you just said Jack, I got you.

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Speaker 5: The team built around now every year Lamar has a team.

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Speaker 5: Everywhere Lamar is outstanding.

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Speaker 1: But when we get you planning against the Kansas City Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: go look at it where they turtles all every down?

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Speaker 2: That was?

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Speaker 4: That was Lamar? Who was that? But I'm not firing John.

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Speaker 4: Why not? He's not getting the job done.

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Speaker 1: Every year they picked the Ravens to go to the

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Speaker 1: At some point they either get rid of Lamar or

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Speaker 5: You're not getting it. We're right, John Halligett to the postseason.

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Speaker 6: So all I'm saying Lamar is the best players. Not

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Speaker 4: Easy, that's lazy.

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Speaker 1: Look at Tod, look at the seventeen, double digit seventeen.

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Speaker 3: Yes, so we got a big game tonight, right, We've

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Speaker 1: But the first time he's in the Super Bowl he

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Speaker 3: And there are people who still say, I don't even

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Speaker 5: How many super Bowls will I have? How many will

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Speaker 5: Maybe it's not this year, but maybe it's next year.

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Speaker 1: Rob Gene, it was a story that came out today

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Speaker 1: For all the people who bought us just Shador Sanders jerseys,

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Speaker 3: as the backup. Well, on Thursday, reporters in Cleveland notice

439
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Speaker 3: that hey, this week they're preparing for the Baltimore Ravens

440
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Speaker 3: and newcomer Bailey Zappy, he's only been here about two weeks,

441
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:26,439
Speaker 3: is running the.

442
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Speaker 4: Scout team Bailey's and Queam Zappi.

443
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Speaker 3: According to at least one reporter, Shador Sander did not

444
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 3: take a single rep in any team drill whatsoever. Well,

445
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Speaker 3: once that became a talking point, reporters asked Bill Musgrave

446
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Speaker 3: about it, and here's how he justified Shadur not getting

447
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Speaker 3: scout team reps.

448
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd say it's a little bit.

449
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Speaker 8: It's a little bit different, and it's exciting because those

450
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Speaker 8: guys do take pride in getting the defense ready. They

451
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Speaker 8: want to do a good job of replicating the opponent's offense,

452
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Speaker 8: and at the same time, they want to try to

453
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Speaker 8: relate any play that they get to our game plan

454
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Speaker 8: for that week too, so they can feel like they

455
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Speaker 8: can get a little double duty there.

456
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Speaker 4: All right, there's the explanation. Does it make sense to you?

457
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Speaker 9: Uh?

458
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Speaker 4: Because this none of it makes sense to me.

459
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Speaker 5: But you know, I haven't really understood what they've been

460
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Speaker 5: doing since the beginning of this. I mean, I do, well,

461
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Speaker 5: would you.

462
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Speaker 4: Like to go?

463
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Speaker 1: Well, I just they're telling you without telling you that

464
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Speaker 1: they don't view him as a starting quarterback in the NFL.

465
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Speaker 1: I mean, what else could it be if you really

466
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Speaker 1: thought you had something, even a diamond in the rough,

467
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Speaker 1: why wouldn't you give him some reps? They wouldn't give

468
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Speaker 1: him reps during the preseason, right camp, they wouldn't give

469
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Speaker 1: the reps there with the first team. They didn't give

470
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Speaker 1: him reps during training camp, Like like what it doesn't

471
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Speaker 1: make sense. Does it hurt you to give somebody reps?

472
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Speaker 1: Is at the end of the world, to give him

473
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Speaker 1: some first team reps with the first team. I don't

474
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Speaker 1: understand it to hold on to a guy that obviously

475
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Speaker 1: you don't believe really is going to be a starting

476
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Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL.

477
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Speaker 5: See that's why I jump in and say, and I

478
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 5: totally get what you're saying, Like because just on the optics,

479
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,239
Speaker 5: if you fail from Mars and I told you what

480
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 5: was happening, you'd be like, oh, they must not like

481
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Speaker 5: the guy. But what makes it strength? A few things

482
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Speaker 5: make it strange for me still round, like why won't

483
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Speaker 5: they release him? And maybe it's coming, maybe you know two, three,

484
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 5: four weeks from now he does, who knows?

485
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Speaker 1: But maybe can I give you one reason you hold

486
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Speaker 1: on to him and wait for somebody to get hurt,

487
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Speaker 1: like a quarterback or some situation, and then he becomes

488
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Speaker 1: a little more valuable.

489
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Speaker 5: Well, you're making him unvaluable while you keep you keep

490
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Speaker 5: demoting him, you know what I mean.

491
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Speaker 4: And he's not this nolex third which wasn't.

492
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Speaker 1: But there's always some One man's chicken is another man's gumbo.

493
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Speaker 4: I mean like, but you know what I'm saying.

494
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Speaker 1: Like, he's still the unknown, right, but I holding onto

495
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Speaker 1: that one preseason game to dangle out there.

496
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Speaker 4: For you ignore the other one. Yes, uh so.

497
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Speaker 5: One reason why I say that is I'm glad you

498
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Speaker 5: brought that up from an outside looking in everything we're

499
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 5: we hear he's supposed to be doing as far as

500
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 5: he's good in practice. We had the coach come out, Oh,

501
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 5: man kave Svanski, Oh, he's just a great guy.

502
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Speaker 4: I love this kid. GM's come out.

503
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Speaker 5: Some of the older Vets have come out braved about right,

504
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 5: but I'm saying so check it might even mad at

505
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Speaker 5: that check. They've said that we saw him in the

506
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Speaker 5: preseason game when he actually had players who might be

507
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Speaker 5: in the NFL.

508
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Speaker 6: He looked good, In fact, he looked really good.

509
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Speaker 5: Then we saw him with a bunch of guys who

510
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Speaker 5: are about to be working at All State Insurance in

511
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Speaker 5: a minute, and he looked bad, which a lot of

512
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Speaker 5: guys might. And so my thing has been he's done

513
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Speaker 5: what he's supposed to do to be in a position now.

514
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Speaker 5: The way things work, we know in the NFL, Dylan

515
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 5: Gabriel is our third round pick, and they're too close

516
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 5: neck and neck. We're going with our third round pick.

517
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Speaker 5: So I'm not even mad at that. No, if the're

518
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Speaker 5: neck and neck, that's what they're But what I'm.

519
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Speaker 1: Saying, if you really believe that he's better, I've given

520
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: you plenty of examples. You could skip over Dylan Gabriel.

521
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Speaker 5: If Chador's real, that's what I'm saying, he would have

522
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Speaker 5: had to have been headed up shoulders above him.

523
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Speaker 4: He wasn't.

524
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 5: Dylan Gabriel looked really good his game out there in

525
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Speaker 5: the preseason. So if I picked you, I feel you're

526
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 5: a little older, maybe a little more mature, and you

527
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 5: and you looked good out there, then you're gonna get

528
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Speaker 5: that spot. I'm not even mad, But collectively, I just

529
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 5: don't get what that quarterback room is doing. Again, go back,

530
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Speaker 5: you give de Sean Watson all the money and all

531
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Speaker 5: the bags that can boom. That doesn't work out, Okay,

532
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Speaker 5: Then you go and draft for Kenny Piggins, which was like, okay,

533
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Speaker 5: that's your saying that that means got I mean trade,

534
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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, trade.

535
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Speaker 4: For Kenny Pickins. You're like, that's the guy you're going

536
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Speaker 4: to get. But what happened?

537
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Speaker 1: They got dead draft capital back because a quarterback got injured, right,

538
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Speaker 1: so now you had an extra quarterback. And then they

539
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Speaker 1: were like, whoa, all right, if we have uh, if

540
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Speaker 1: we're gonna go with flat goh and we got the

541
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Speaker 1: young guy whatever. Now we can get our fifth round

542
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Speaker 1: pick back. Right, And Kenny Picktt was hurt.

543
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Speaker 5: He's even playing, right, but you're speaking proactive like later,

544
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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, in real time, they got Kenny Picktt, like

545
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Speaker 5: that's our guy, Like that was the first guy the

546
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Speaker 5: once he got hurt and then he didn't play. But

547
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Speaker 5: I'm saying you brought him in as if that was

548
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 5: the answer. No, he was going to know that guy,

549
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Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. He wouldn't answer. And if he

550
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 5: played enough, and when they saw him, they said, once

551
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Speaker 5: he gets back injury, we got our guys.

552
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Speaker 4: He didn't play. He didn't play.

553
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Speaker 5: You know, I'm saying, if he would have done enough

554
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 5: that they saw practice in the film rule they would guess.

555
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 4: They decided where they're going, which is.

556
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Speaker 1: To me, Joe Flacco, They're like, we're not throwing a

557
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 1: toweling on the season, okay, coaches, and GM's their future

558
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: rides on on the team as well. They had a

559
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 1: bad year last year. The worst thing they could do

560
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: is put a rookie quarterback out there get their heads

561
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: handed to him. Nobody wants to hear about DeShawn Watson

562
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Speaker 1: getting healthy and all that, and the elephant in the

563
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Speaker 1: room is that you see video of de Sean Watson

564
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Speaker 1: moving around now and eventually he is going to play

565
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Speaker 1: with all the money they still owe him. So that's

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Speaker 1: why I think in reality they're they're doing what they're doing,

567
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: saying the Shawan's going to play, and maybe that's after

568
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco holds it down for this year and they

569
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Speaker 1: hold on to Shador until somebody comes knocking.

570
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Speaker 6: That's what I think, because I don't see you're playing

571
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 6: for the Browns, but I and I hear you because

572
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 6: they have so many quarterbacks.

573
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Speaker 5: Now they got this other guy zippy zippity does zippity

574
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Speaker 5: a Now is it.

575
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Speaker 2: My old my?

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Speaker 6: What a wonderful day. I mean, they keeping your son quarterbacks.

577
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Speaker 2: Come.

578
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 9: Zippity dudees. So they get blue bir should into fast. Okay,

579
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 9: what's that?

580
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 4: Can you find that? A?

581
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 2: Well?

582
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 4: What is that?

583
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 6: I guess that is a funky flashback Friday. Man.

584
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Speaker 5: My whole point is that cored that Brown's culture quarterback room.

585
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 5: They don't know what they're doing. And I told you

586
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 5: that anytime they think they're about to do something, need

587
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 5: to do the opposite because they ain't had a quarterback

588
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 5: since Bernie Kosar.

589
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 4: It's been a long time whatever, whatever, you know. We

590
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 4: should actually did want to playoff and they know what

591
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 4: they did.

592
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Speaker 6: They got away from him, which is again what they

593
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 6: shouldn't have done.

594
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 4: They blew it. They made a mistake.

595
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 5: They stayed blowing it like it's birthday candle. They always

596
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 5: blowing them out. K K Cake, Cake, what is that

597
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 5: with you? Cake?

598
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 4: What is this power one oh six? What is this

599
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 4: real ninety two three? What this hot ninety seven? Whenever

600
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 4: I hear Cake, I can't help.

601
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 5: But because we know where you are when you hear

602
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 5: that song, mentally, yes, it puts you back in the

603
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 5: magic City mode.

604
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 6: Which maybe that is that what you need, get you cheered.

605
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 4: Up, don't get fired.

606
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 5: You need you need three home runs in a girl

607
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 5: in a game from Aaron Aaron Judge, Rob that would

608
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 5: bring caution?

609
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 4: What was that? Got some new drops for you?

610
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 2: Rob?

611
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 4: Caution? Who is that? Karen? Don't worry about it? Yo,

612
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 4: Siri acting crazy?

613
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 7: Don't get fired?

614
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 4: You want my favorite sexist? What's you say about the

615
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 4: w NBA row sexist?

616
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 5: What you watch the women's finals of the US Open?

617
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 4: Trying to sabotage my career? What is this they're listening

618
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 4: back at headquarters? Women?

619
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 6: What about the United States women's national team?

620
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Speaker 4: Sexist? What about laundry night at the w n B

621
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Speaker 4: A sexist?

622
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 2: Don't get fired?

623
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 5: Remember Maybach music? Oh my gosh, you guys are nets

624
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 5: Stevin Brown's. They're terrible. The don't know what they're doing it.

625
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: I think they know exactly exactly what they're doing, which

626
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: is Chadors not in our plans. Will hold on to them.

627
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,719
Speaker 1: Maybe some team will come calling and they have some

628
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: quarterback issue and they go, hey you know chaudor yeah,

629
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Speaker 1: let's let's give him a shot. Hey we'll give you

630
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: this or that or what whatever. Just the idea that

631
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: Bailey Zappi's getting more reps in.

632
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Speaker 6: Him, Robgie, do you know anything about it? Is he fast?

633
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 4: Bailey?

634
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Speaker 5: No, what I'm saying is he he might be faster

635
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 5: than Shadoor because I'm saying he being the Lamar Jackson. Yes,

636
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 5: that's what I'm thinking. He's just being meaning we go

637
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,719
Speaker 5: back to Shador. We just need to be Jackie in general.

638
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 5: He mentioned it. It's a tipal. This doesn't happen on

639
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 5: other teams. Other teams do not have multiple guys and

640
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 5: everybody else, and everybody doesn't have Lamar Jackson. Dang it,

641
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 5: we got to get ready for Lamar Jackson. Okay, Chadeur

642
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 5: Sanders will play. He's gonna say something. I don't want

643
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 5: Alex hit to drop on me. The new one, no,

644
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 5: the old one.

645
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 3: Okay, I mean they already got a black quarterback, like

646
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 3: did you put back there?

647
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 4: Racist? He is racist. Racist. That's gotta be racist.

648
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 5: Shadoor is not the stereotypes of all black dudes are fast.

649
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 5: Not all black dudes are fast. Okay, Roger sure door

650
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 5: ain't taken off all right, let's get out of keeping.

651
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 3: By the way, fun fact you know Rob you knows

652
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 3: as a baseball fan. The reason why in Major League

653
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 3: all the Wesley Snipe seen him in slow motion because

654
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 3: they said he was really slow as a runner.

655
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 6: Really, yep, he ain't Tom Cruise, Nope.

656
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 4: They said he was extremely slow.

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Speaker 3: So if we played it in full speed and would

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Speaker 3: he wouldn't looked good.

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Speaker 4: Everything in slow motion so.

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Speaker 6: He looked like he looked good in a White Man

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Speaker 6: Can't Jump.

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Speaker 4: But he wasn't running. It was just a short racist.

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Speaker 4: He wasn't. He was good in White Men Can't Jump.

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Speaker 4: It was good in those movies sports. But that is snipe.

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Speaker 5: He's underrated, like nineteen eighty eight to ninety six run.

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Speaker 4: Oh no he did. He had had a run. But

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Speaker 4: the irs thing I think right, People don't.

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Speaker 5: People do not like Nicholas Katee's been doing one hundred

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Speaker 5: movies a year, still trying to play off his taxes.