WEBVTT - Cracktoberfest Part Three: The Iran-Contra Affair 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:19.320 Yo, what's up? Welcome to the Bastards Pod. This is 0:00:19.360 --> 0:00:21.599 a weird voice to hear, right, you know, saying I 0:00:21.600 --> 0:00:23.479 gotta come up with some sort of what do we? 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:26.880 What do we? What do we? What do we? Here goes? 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:30.120 You know, perfect me. I didn't perfect you. What do we? 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:32.880 What do we? What do you? What do you say? 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:39.080 I would do a prop intro, but nobody, nobody needs 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:44.360 to hear me. Try to sing. Uh. This is a 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:50.520 hood politics behind the Bastards crossover, behind the hood politics 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:54.040 behind us. It's like it's like like when they do 0:00:54.200 --> 0:01:00.960 Gray's Anatomy and Station nineteen on on TV, but better. Yeah, 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:03.520 they used to do this in the nineties, like sitcom 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:09.840 eras all the time episode. Yeah, that's how technically the 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:12.480 X Files and The Wire are in the same universe 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:16.679 right there. Scully came through. Scully came through to get 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:20.679 a get a get a nice, nice little bump of cracked. 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:24.840 Speaking of crack. Yeah, that is a good introduction, and 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:27.479 we'll get me off talking about what a fun crossover 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:32.679 Holder and McNulty would have been. Um uh, yeah, we 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:36.360 are talking. We are getting behind the hood bastards because 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:41.040 we're talking about the crack epidemic and the Central Intelligence Agency. 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:44.720 It's like the perfect It's also a perfect crossover. A 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:48.480 perfect crossover, would think you'd need. I mean it is. 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:50.960 I will say I get a little frustrated, as we'll 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:53.400 be getting into in in my episodes whenever people are 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:55.080 like the C I a brock crack to the inner 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:57.720 City because guys, the NSC was a big part of 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:00.600 it too. Very you know, Ali North was not slacking 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:02.800 on this. Let's not give the CIA all the credit. 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:05.000 This is what you will learn. You know what I'm saying. 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:07.120 You need to give people put some respect on their name. 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:11.680 The NSC needs respect. Respect right now, that's branding right there. 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:16.160 Reverse You ready for this reverse Bastard? Ya say? I 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:24.160 am ready. Let's do it? Brow Okay, Sophie. How you feel? 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:26.760 I feel like I don't have a script, which means 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:29.919 it's like a normal Bastards episode, because Robert doesn't send 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:31.480 me the script when I asked him to send it 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:40.680 to me either. Listen, here's the thing. Uh, it's important. 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:42.520 I don't know when this is coming out, but I 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:45.359 think it's important to acknowledge that. Uh, this is the 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:52.360 day after Queen Elizabeth passed and probably doubling as one 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:55.760 of the greatest days on Black Twitter ever. Oh my god, 0:02:55.880 --> 0:03:00.639 black Twitter in Irish Twitter. We're both just listen a cylinders. 0:03:00.680 --> 0:03:05.600 It was just voltron of melanated people like people that 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:10.040 seasonate food, just all got together, had a barbecue and 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:12.679 was roast in the hell. And it's almost like y'all 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:15.200 asked for it, because did nobody ask y'all to make 0:03:15.240 --> 0:03:20.079 her the symbolic figurehead of all that is the British empire? 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:23.320 Y'all made her debt. Yeah, people, people are doing this 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:25.680 whole thing where they're like, well, but she didn't really 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:28.160 do you know? She she she's not the one who 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:30.600 did all of the colonialism. Was like number one, she 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:34.000 was thirty one years old when her government put like 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:38.880 a million Kenyan people in concentration camp stern Uprising. Number one, 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:44.280 let's talk about her. Watch some of that in fact, 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:47.440 did happen while she wasn't charge. And number two, Uh, 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:51.000 it's funny because she is representative of a terrible government 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:53.960 and so let's laugh at it. And look, people are like, hey, 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:56.600 your country doesn't have anywhere to talk. You guys made 0:03:56.640 --> 0:04:00.120 Donald Trump the president. Absolutely fine, Let's laugh when he 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:02.840 dies too. It will be also funny when he dies, 0:04:03.880 --> 0:04:07.680 it'll be and and I'm like, yes, you're right, and 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:09.920 I would hope that you would participate in the jokes. 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:12.720 The point I'm trying to make is it was like 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:16.920 these were I saw a tweet that said, we're mourning 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:19.160 more than the death of a woman, but the death 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:25.800 of a world, and I was like, yeah, number one, 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:29.119 we not. And that's our point. That's why we're cracking jokes. 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:33.600 Pretty you made her the picture of six fifty years 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:36.280 of oppression. You did not me. So that's the case. 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:39.839 Then we got something to say. Yeah, I am fairly 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:43.719 certain that Ruyard Kipling, the poet laureate of the British Empire, 0:04:44.080 --> 0:04:46.920 wrote a whole poem about how that world wasn't very good. 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:52.680 I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure. Yeah. Anyway, anyway, it 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:54.960 was one of the greatest days on Twitter. Let's get 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:58.160 back to what we're gonna talk about here. Uh so, 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:00.760 I guess i'll try to get try to start in yo, 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:07.000 he hey, uh, what do you know about what are 0:05:07.000 --> 0:05:11.880 your feelings on cocaine? There? Uh? You know, look, I 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:14.400 think it's not my favorite drug. I think it's a 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:19.760 general rule overrated, certainly more expensive than over priced. Like, 0:05:19.800 --> 0:05:21.840 if I'm going to do a stimulant, right, if I 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:24.440 really need to, like like keep myself wired, I'm gonna 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:26.240 roll right on down to the old wall grains. I'm 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:28.599 gonna get up pick up some Benza dregs and Hailer's, 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:30.280 the ones that have Ben's a drain in them. I'm 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:32.640 gonna pop that little cotton thing outside of the center. 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:34.360 I'm gonna dunk it in a water bottle, and I'm 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:36.200 gonna drink me some Bin's a drinks, some like classic 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:38.560 seventies speed, you know, and then I'm gonna drive for 0:05:38.600 --> 0:05:42.040 thirty seven and a half hours. Um. But if I 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:45.000 want to, you know, I've had some good times on cocaine, 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:47.800 don't get me wrong. Um. And if you get the 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:51.240 opportunity to snort a line of cocaine off of somebody's ass, 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:54.200 you should take it. It's a worthwhile life experience. I mean, 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:56.080 I feel like I feel like when you add all 0:05:56.080 --> 0:05:59.080 those additives, like this is my ass, I'm like, well, 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:02.479 I mean that's the difference story by it by itself, 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:05.000 I'd be like, ah, I mean, I'm from Los Angeles, 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:08.160 so it's like you walk into somebody's party and they're like, hey, 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:09.920 how you doing. What's up? Man? Welcome and make sure 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:12.239 you take your shoes off, you know, because it's Hollywood party. 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:15.479 And they're like, hey, coffee's over there, bars over there, 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:17.800 coke's over there. Will be cool. So it's like it's 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:20.919 so ubiquitous growing up and I've been able to be like, 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:23.200 oh cool on that room. I'm saying, I don't need 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:25.640 to go to the coke room. But if you add 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:29.640 that there's a booty to snort off. Yeah, there's we're 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:33.040 gonna be snorting off of someone's. Sure that's an experience, right, Yeah, 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:36.960 that's yeah. There's a thing like clubs in Berlin and stuff. 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:38.840 It's really fun to go to a club where you're 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:41.800 gonna be there for like thirty hours and like periodically 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:44.000 take trips to the bathroom you through your friends to 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:46.839 do lines. But if I'm gonna be doing lines in 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:49.080 like the bathroom of a club in Berlin, I would 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:52.839 prefer they'd be lines of ketamine than cocaine. Um, that's 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:55.280 where I stand on cocaine. You talk about drugs the 0:06:55.360 --> 0:07:01.080 way underground rappers talk about rap, just like it's the 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:06.120 most obscure ship like what the what wait, guitar nerds 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:10.320 talk about like pedals and bands. The best place to 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:13.120 snort drugs that I've ever snorted drugs is the kit 0:07:13.200 --> 0:07:16.440 Cat Club in Berlin. It goes down like five stories. 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:18.840 It doesn't close for three or four days at a time. 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:23.040 Great place to do lines in a bathroom. Absolutely number 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:29.120 one word sound that sounds like quite an experience. Yeah, 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:32.720 my German listeners are are nodding along and go yes. Absolutely, 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:35.040 that's the part of that's the part of German culture. 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:38.160 Don't nobody tell you about why the nerds was Google stepping, 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:41.360 you know what I'm saying. Yeah, it was downstairs running 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:44.200 just hit and get bumps and rails. I actually think 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:46.360 the club is made out of an old bomb shelter. 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:49.560 But don't don't quote me. I don't quote you. So yeah, cocaine, 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:54.280 you know, mixed opinions. Good. Well, Uh, I'm glad you 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:57.520 think that, because we're gonna talk about I ran contra 0:07:57.960 --> 0:08:04.080 and yes, which ends with uh. That's the hard part 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:06.920 with with with with with Sometimes with the bastards thing 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:09.760 is like trying to figure out one who the bastard 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:15.000 is and uh and where to start the story, but 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:18.680 we definitely know that this ends with the loss of 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:24.360 Whitney Houston. This ends with, yeah, the destruction of South 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:27.679 Central and New York and the total flooding of our prisons, 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:30.640 So we know that it ends there, and it's it's 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:33.160 kind of rank and I think this is probably how 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:35.560 we wind up having the episodes released. I Ran contrast 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:37.920 kind of the middle of the story, right, because you 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:40.480 have this period where the CIA is fucking around with 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:44.120 some of the ideas that get turned into a Rand 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:46.559 contra that honestly some of them start like thirty or 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:50.160 forty years before this we'll talk about but yeah, this 0:08:50.240 --> 0:08:52.600 is kind of this is the middle, and it's it's 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:55.840 the middle. So normally, I think, like it was difficult 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:58.880 when I was plotting out my episodes because it doesn't 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:03.199 connect to directly to the crack trade. Or it does, 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:06.280 but but it's hard to understand why it connects to 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:09.719 it if you don't have the first and the end 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:12.520 parts of it. But also, a Ran contra is a 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:15.720 fucking crazy story on its own, and you have to 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:17.280 tell it like that. So I think what we're doing 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:19.679 is smart. People will get the full context. But yeah, 0:09:19.760 --> 0:09:22.560 let's let's dive in. I can't wait to talk about 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:24.800 my boy all the North. Oh man, we got something 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:29.840 future bastard star so look so yeah so yeah, so 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:35.480 crack attack this this this story what eventually cocaine Crack Cocaine, 0:09:35.679 --> 0:09:37.640 I ran contra all this stuff that he's talking about, 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:41.880 Oliver North. It's almost like the at least for a 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:47.199 hook politics, or for any sort of still living black 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:52.240 or brown person that didn't necessarily live through like Jim 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:55.320 Crow era or civil rights movement if you're somehow younger 0:09:55.360 --> 0:09:58.080 than that. This is sort of like this is the 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:00.960 backdrop that we all kind of underst and it basically 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:06.640 laid the playground the map for almost everything we talk about. 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:09.880 For a number of reasons. It's almost like it's almost 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:13.360 like how like in Game of Thrones, you've just accepted 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:16.240 that there are dragons in their world, like you know 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:18.480 what I'm saying, or you just or like like in 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:20.400 Lord of the Rings, like Middle Earth is just the 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:22.920 planet and there are things that like you know, the 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:26.440 characters aren't necessarily pointing at, going oh yeah, yeah, there's 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:28.959 such things as hobbits, you know what I'm saying, and 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:32.040 you know, and orcs are because of Saramon and there 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:35.240 was actually an ancient history. Like this is just the map. 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:40.400 So if for you to understand a lot of gang violence, crips, bloods, 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:43.600 all this stuff in the inner city, like this is 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:46.960 part of the map that's necessary. But what's so crazy 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:50.160 about it is is how it's connected to geopolitics. But 0:10:50.520 --> 0:10:53.040 like like Roberts trying to lay out with y'all, is 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:56.880 where do you start this story? Do you start it 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:59.040 with World War two? Do you start it with the 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:03.000 Monroe doctor? Do you started with McCarthy? Is? Um, you 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:05.400 know what I'm saying because all of this stuff, the 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:08.400 reason why I ran contract had to happen is because 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:12.000 of these other contexts. Right, So let's go ahead and 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:16.080 dive in. You know, yes, yes, so uh, you know 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:19.200 you're coming out of World War two starting the Cold War? Uh. 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:21.920 And this might be reviewed for everybody, but you know, 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:24.719 the Cold War was ultimately a war of ideas, Like 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:29.600 whose idea gets to run the block? Right? Um, who's 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:32.480 gonna run the world? Whether it's you know, liberal democracies 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:38.040 or communist socialist regimes, cripts, bloods, vice lords, nor Daniel Sennos, 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:40.240 It don't make no difference. If you just live here. 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:42.560 You know what I'm saying, y'all all gangsters, It don't 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:46.600 make no difference, y'all just trying to run whatever turf 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:48.600 you have. And at the end of the day for 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:52.280 us as like regular civilians, just like just like in 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:54.560 the uds, like you really you repping where your mam 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:57.360 would pay a rent, Like I didn't choose this neighborhood. 0:11:57.640 --> 0:11:59.920 We just happen to live here, you know what I'm saying. 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:03.720 And if that's the case, right, if you running this blog, 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:09.040 the last thing you want is the enemy to be 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:12.160 able to set up too close to home, right, that's 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:17.839 the last thing you want. So the way that like yeah, 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:20.400 you see, you see versions by the way of this logic, 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:22.400 and like why Russia did what they did in Ukraine, 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:24.719 right exactly this whole idea that you don't want the Yeah, 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:27.040 you don't want the enemy setting up like and it's 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:29.280 funked up what they're doing in Ukraine and what we're 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:34.079 about to talk about the the same. It's that's the 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:36.840 whole thing about Like we can't have y'all join NATO. Yeah, 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:38.600 you know what I'm saying, because that's the enemy, Like 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:41.120 y'all can't be clicked up with these people literally right 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:44.480 next door. You can't have that, which was ultimately what 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:47.160 happened through the sixties, seventies, and eighties and central in 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:51.840 South America. America was like, we can't be having no 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:56.000 Communists on our soil. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:58.679 That's too close to home now, granted, And it's so 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:00.960 crazy because if you, if you, if you, you know, 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:03.000 knowing your stories, doing your Cold War history, if you 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:06.000 talk to Korean War, you know, Vietnam War, we was 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:08.440 cool with like compromise. We was cool with like going 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:12.040 places as long as it was over there. You know 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:15.520 I'm saying right, because you know North Korea, South Korea, 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:17.800 that was an agreement. It was like, okay, cool, y'all 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:20.120 can have North, will take South. You know what I mean, 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:22.440 y'all support them. We'll see who the prophet is, We'll 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:24.840 see how everything works out. And then but if full 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:26.880 start feeling froggy, you know what I'm saying, then we're 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:31.120 gonna come wrap our turf, right, which is the proxy 0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:35.520 wars of that time. But uh, at the end of 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:39.400 the day, a lot of this situation stems from the 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:42.240 idea of I just want to be the biggest dog 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:44.600 on the blog. And I can't be letting nobody come 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:48.959 into our turf, right, And these two operations I ran 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:54.560 in contra ultimately was actually a very brilliant hustle. But 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:57.559 if you speaking in like criminal sense, it's pretty brilliant. 0:13:57.840 --> 0:13:59.920 But it should have landed Ronald Reagan and Georgia. But 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:08.599 Senior in jail of other people did it? Yeah, a 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:11.520 lot of people should have went to jail. Ye. So 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:14.160 so look, so let's start, and this is the middle 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:16.080 of the story. So let's start in the middle of 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:18.640 the middle. Let's just get real weird here, get all 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:37.080 Tarantino on this mud. So I'm gonna start at October five. 0:14:39.400 --> 0:14:43.920 There's so there's this cargo plane, a Soviet bought plane 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:48.760 with Soviet made a K forty seven's and mad weapons, 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:53.560 flying over the Jungles and Nicarapola. And the plane had 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:56.720 no plans on landing. It was just gonna drop its 0:14:56.880 --> 0:15:00.360 cargo and fly on off. And the guy that was 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:03.160 flying it, um, we'll get to his name later because 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:07.160 it's it's the most just white bread American name ever. Right, 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:10.080 So he's flying over and he's about to drop these 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:13.000 weapons over this, uh, this jungle in Nicaragua. And there 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:16.920 was a young man named Jose Alaman who sees him 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:21.320 in the sky, reads the lick, and he like, you 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:24.800 ain't supposed to be over here, shoots the plane down 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:28.400 just from nick jungle. Probably shouldn't have done that. This 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:32.280 might not well for anybody. Yes, shoots the planes down. 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:35.440 Now the question is who is Jose rapping. Jose's repping 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:39.200 the Sandinistas. Now. The Sandinisis are a socialist party in 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:43.040 Nicaragua who overthrew a dictatorship in nineteen seventy nine. Why 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:45.800 this was such an issue was because this dictatorship was 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:48.360 really cool with the US Reagan and them like really 0:15:48.360 --> 0:15:50.320 clicked with him. It was it was everything worked out. 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:52.680 You did Joe part I did mine. Everything was cool. 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:56.320 They were super supportive like that dude. But then the 0:15:56.440 --> 0:16:01.600 Sandinistas came in, over threw this dude, and San Denisa's crime, 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:05.640 as far as America's concerned, is day socialists. And that's 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:08.160 too close, you too close, you too close to ourhood. 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:10.400 You can't be doing those socialist stuff over here, right, 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:13.680 So the Sandinistas were the ones that shot this fool down, right. 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:18.040 So the fool gets shot down. Uh, Jose Alaman turns 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:21.120 him into his big homies, the big homies. The Sandinistas 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:25.160 put this fool on TV right after he gets set down. 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:28.200 So they put this fool on TV in Nicaragua, and 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:30.600 they was like all right, hey, yo, gonna say y 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:31.960 I'm you know what I mean? Like, what's your name? 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:35.560 Tell the folk's your name? He was like, gene hass 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:40.800 And Foss. That's not a real name. Boy day was 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:45.760 gene Hassen Foss. That's not a real name. Crop with me. 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:50.600 They was like, like, like where you from? He was 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:55.880 like Wisconsin. Like mother hassing Foss from Wisconsin was getting 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:58.240 the fun out of there. You're not supposed to be 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:03.440 in Nicara. Well what do you do? Was flying a 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:08.479 plane for the cargo weapons over a jungle Nicaragua. They 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:12.200 was like, uh so, why don't you tell the people 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:16.840 why are you here? Gene Hassa Foss from Wisconsin goes, well, 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:19.920 the CIA told me to come here and drop off 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:23.920 these weapons for the contrast. He just tells him exactly 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:28.119 why you're right now. Your next question should be, uh, 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:33.000 who are the contrast now? If you are around my age? Uh, 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:35.480 the first time you ever heard of the term contrast 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:38.199 was a video game where you was gonna ep up 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:40.520 left left, up, up, down down left right left right 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:44.240 b A B A select start. Remember this, Robert, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:17:44.200 --> 0:17:45.920 I's tell you get thirty men on the Contra game. 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:49.840 Who knew that Contra was that? I have that tattooed 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:51.600 and a part of my body I can't talk about 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:55.040 on the on the go. It was a really important 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:57.440 moment in history. It's like you learned how to hack 0:17:57.480 --> 0:18:01.320 a game like three men. Any Way, So the Contras 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:05.159 were the group of people who were trying to overthrow 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:13.040 the Sandinistas. They were a pro democracy, anti socialists, rebels, right, 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:18.240 So so this they where they build themselves as pro democracy. 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:21.119 Let's let's say the story. Yeah, yeah, that's that's the 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:24.520 claim they're making at this point in the story that 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:30.399 even though the Sandinistas have overthrown a dictatorship and the 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:32.199 government they put in place is going to have some 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:35.400 problems too, but the fucking Contra is a big part 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:37.000 of what they're doing. Is like, well, let's go back 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:40.240 to the way things were they when we had that dictator. 0:18:40.760 --> 0:18:42.760 Because the dictator it was one of those dictator where 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:44.720 you've got elections but they're not real. You all know 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:47.200 the story. Yeah, it's it's kind of like, Okay, so 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:53.160 you're having problems at school, right with with some some dudes, right, 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:58.360 and you go ask the last person you should go ask, like, 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:00.680 you know, your cousin Mark. You know what I'm saying, 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:04.760 Your cousin Marks, like, are you need help? We'll get 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:06.720 your help. Yeah, do you hope to say? Here? But 0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:09.880 it's like is this help? Is this juice worth the squeeze? Right? 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:12.159 Your cousin Mark is saying, Hey, I'm just doing this 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:14.920 because I'm your cousin. Man. I love y'all said everything straight. Now, 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:18.800 Cousin Mark is not necessarily the person you should be 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:22.760 clicking with. So anyway, Cousin Mark maybe expected Cousin Mark 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:24.760 maybe come back for a favor later. You know what 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:27.280 I'm saying. There's some phone calls you don't make because 0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:29.440 they're gonna cost more than they're giving you. Right. Yeah. 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:31.879 So anyway, so they put the boy on on TV. 0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:34.880 He was like, Yo, the c I A uh told 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:37.159 me to drop this stuff off. Now. I don't know 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:41.840 how familiar you are with civics laws or anything like that, 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:45.120 but that's pretty illegal. You can't just be you can't 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:48.240 just be dropping off weapons in a country like that. Right. 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:52.080 Uh so so wants to say, Ninisa's put this man 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:55.880 on TV for everybody to see. They like, all right, America, 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:58.800 you got something to say. Look, here go your boy. Right. 0:19:59.119 --> 0:20:02.240 So the US Secretary of State a man named George Saltz, 0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:04.760 who we will talk about a lot later. Oh boy, 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:10.240 yes we will, board member George. Don't you dare forget it? Yes, 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:16.320 this man comes to the podium and it's like, I'm 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:18.680 sorry for that man, but I don't know who he 0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:23.440 is he was. It was like, uh, first of all, 0:20:24.440 --> 0:20:28.520 if if a government official, this is any government comes 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:30.920 up after something like this happens and says we don't 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:33.080 know who that if they specifically go up to say 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:36.400 we don't know that man, that's their man. That that's 0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:39.440 the way that all we know it. Right, Yeah, come on, man, 0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:42.280 that's their guy. That's the boy. Yeah, he was like 0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:46.080 that man a list? Did he have no military idea 0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:48.080 on him? Was he part of the CIA? That's a 0:20:48.119 --> 0:20:52.320 private citizen. That man decided on his own and he's 0:20:52.359 --> 0:20:55.280 a free will to have military grade weapons that he 0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:59.840 could fly over a country on a plane among us 0:20:59.840 --> 0:21:06.119 not inspired. Yes, of course that's a lie, right, But 0:21:07.640 --> 0:21:12.120 the NSC, which we will again talk about later, had 0:21:12.160 --> 0:21:15.919 a code name called Project Democracy, which is what was 0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:18.920 actually happening at that moment. And the leader and again 0:21:18.960 --> 0:21:22.119 that we mentioned before, future pod star Oliver north Um, 0:21:22.480 --> 0:21:25.080 knows that this is all CAPP and he's actually in 0:21:25.160 --> 0:21:28.679 charge with all of this, and that is absolutely our guns, 0:21:28.720 --> 0:21:32.400 that's absolutely our money, and that's absolutely what's happening. We 0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:35.399 was giving weapons to the contract. Yeah, we got to 0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:56.040 back up to figure out how we got there. So 0:21:56.119 --> 0:22:01.600 let's introduce some players here. Uh, you know Robert Bud McFarland. 0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:06.639 You heard it his dude, Oh yes, yes, Robert Bud McFarland. 0:22:06.640 --> 0:22:10.640 He's the the NSC chair. He's the NSC chair. Yeah. 0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:13.320 He used to work for Kissinger and Nixon and was 0:22:13.400 --> 0:22:16.480 like totally admired them. And he is a he is 0:22:16.560 --> 0:22:19.359 a when we talk about cold warriors, this man is 0:22:19.400 --> 0:22:24.119 a hard core cold warrior. A you like, whatever you 0:22:24.200 --> 0:22:27.960 have to do to stop the spread of communism is 0:22:28.000 --> 0:22:30.600 justified kind of guy. Not a dude does not give 0:22:30.600 --> 0:22:32.760 a shit about elections. You've given how you get it? 0:22:32.800 --> 0:22:36.000 How you we out here. Yeah, And McFarland is also 0:22:36.040 --> 0:22:37.480 one of the things that's interesting about him. He is 0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:43.200 the guy, the first guy to centralize UM U S 0:22:43.240 --> 0:22:48.200 intelligence like information UH to like through a computer system effectively, 0:22:48.200 --> 0:22:51.280 Like they have this system of terminals UM in the 0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:53.760 White House, and I believe also in the Pentagon that 0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:58.040 every all UH like basically all intelligence from every agency 0:22:58.119 --> 0:23:00.240 is getting routed through And he's the first guy who 0:23:00.240 --> 0:23:03.240 does that. And when he centralizes the flow of that information, 0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:07.959 he's also centralizing power for U S intelligence operations in 0:23:08.000 --> 0:23:10.560 the NSC in a way that it hadn't been for 0:23:10.600 --> 0:23:13.720 a while. And and yeah, and it's partially because of 0:23:13.720 --> 0:23:17.400 this debacle. Yeah, it was like exactly what the left 0:23:17.440 --> 0:23:19.320 hand doesn't know what the right is doing. Right, And 0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:21.199 they're not, by the by the way, because we're so 0:23:21.320 --> 0:23:23.280 used to these people lying all the time. When like 0:23:23.520 --> 0:23:25.400 guys like Schultz get up and say, well, I don't 0:23:25.480 --> 0:23:28.239 we don't know that guy, they're not always lying. You're 0:23:28.280 --> 0:23:30.240 not always lying that they don't know that guy, because 0:23:30.240 --> 0:23:31.760 that's a smart way to do it, right, if you're 0:23:31.760 --> 0:23:34.800