WEBVTT - #19 Joey 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:05.680 Hi, John, Okay. If I were to plan a surprise 0:00:05.840 --> 0:00:08.840 vacation for us, where would you want to go? Did 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:10.879 you say vacation? Surprise vacation? 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:15.440 It could just never happen with my work schedule, like 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:16.760 I can, that can never happen. 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:17.640 Where would you want to go? 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:18.840 Why would I want to go? 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:22.040 For fun in the sun? Listen how stressed you sound. 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:23.520 The idea of actually being. 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:25.840 On vacation with you nice idea. 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:28.240 It wouldn't be vacation. It would be a slight cation 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:31.040 because we'd do everything on a sleigh. We'd dash through 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:34.000 the snow and I don't know, like check our phones 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:38.960 and argue. Occasionally you'd hang up on me and I'd 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:49.960 start the show. But from Gimblet Media, I'm Jonathan Goldstein 0:00:50.280 --> 0:01:07.360 and this is Heavyweight today's episode. Joey as a young man, 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:10.880 whenever conflict arose, my go to move was to roll 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:13.920 up into a fetal ball and pray to go unnoticed. 0:01:14.720 --> 0:01:19.800 Of course, this only made matters worse case. In point 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:23.080 one afternoon, while riding a trolley, I fell into a 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:27.080 daydream and missed my stop. Anyone else in my position 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:31.480 might have yelled I missed my stop, or open the door, please. 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:35.880 But in imagining all these trolley riding strangers turning around 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:39.319 to stare at me, my mind went blank. So I 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:43.240 decided it might be simpler draw less attention if I 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:48.080 just jumped off. As I landed onto the street, I 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:51.000 heard a high pitched scream that I would later realize 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:55.280 was coming from me. Instead of drawing less attention, I 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:59.720 was now center stage. The trolley conductor skidded to a halt, 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:03.040 and all the passengers ran to the windows to watch 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:06.880 as I painfully crawled into a nearby bush. Once in 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:10.360 the bush, I hid waiting for the trolley to leave. 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:18.840 For young Jonathan Goldstein, the cost of staying silent that 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:23.600 day was two twisted ankles and the loss of my pride. 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:26.120 Hey, Joey, Hey there, it's awesome to hear from you. 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:29.799 This is young Joey, and he recently had a bad 0:02:29.880 --> 0:02:33.280 day that forced him to realize his fear of being seen, 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:37.040 his fear of speaking up, was exacting a far greater 0:02:37.160 --> 0:02:41.080 cost than a mere double ankle injury. It was ruining 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:45.720 his life, and so he's reached out for help from. 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:48.160 Me and just never get myself in a situation like 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:48.680 this again. 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:52.080 I think Joey is twenty two years old, and the 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:55.160 lead up to his terrible, horrible, no good, very bad 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:59.120 day begins right after his art school graduation, when he 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:02.520 moved into an artists loft in downtown. 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:05.239 LA live in that downtown city life kind of living 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:06.400 in a communal living style. 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:09.280 The downside was that the loft had bed sheeets for 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:13.919 walls in six roommates. But the plus side, the loft 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:18.720 had bed sheets for walls and six roommates, six super 0:03:18.800 --> 0:03:23.839 cool roommates, a DJ, a dollmaker, a photographer, a guy 0:03:23.840 --> 0:03:28.720 who quote trimmed weed, and super coolest of all, a podcaster. 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:34.560 And I pictured these cool artist types having great parties 0:03:34.639 --> 0:03:37.160 and a lot of cool people over and all the 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:41.040 artists in the LA scene would come through, and I 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:44.760 was going to come in and hopefully fit in immediately. 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:50.280 But Joey didn't fit in immediately. He never felt comfortable 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:53.000 just hanging out with everyone, never knew what to say, 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:55.960 and so he ended up spending most of his time 0:03:56.120 --> 0:04:01.040 alone in his room rehearsing icebreakers. I like your tattoo, 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:07.440 he'd repeat to himself, your tattoo. I like it, sweet tat, 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:11.280 he'd say, pointing limply at the mirror like a socially 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:15.760 crippled Travis Bickle, Unable to come up with anything that 0:04:15.800 --> 0:04:20.479 felt right. Paralysis set in. Joey began spending all day 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:23.719 in his room, a shadow behind a bedsheet. 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:26.480 They'd all be in the living room right next to 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:29.599 my room, hanging out, watching a movie, you know, drinking, 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:31.920 hanging and doing the thing, and I would be in 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:34.960 my room, just like making people uncomfortable with by not, 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:37.200 you know, being out there. 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:40.440 Joey had been living in the loft several weeks when 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:44.360 he realized just how isolated he become. One day, will 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:46.800 waiting outside the bathroom, he ran into one of his 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:47.520 new roommates. 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:51.000 She she was like, oh, hi, what's your name? Oh 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:55.880 where do you live? I was like, uh, here, I'd 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:57.200 live here. 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:09.040 Eventually, Joey began avoiding the loft altogether. He'd spend every 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:12.560 day wandering the streets, only returning in the evening. 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:15.160 When I was back in my house at night, I 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:18.160 would sneak into my room and then make and then 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:20.960 make it drink, make sure I didn't drink too much 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:23.280 water so that my bladder was empty, so I wouldn't 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:25.520 have to leave my room to pee. My new goal 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:28.240 was to just be as unobtrusive as a roommate as possible, 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:33.599 be invisible, So in this time I would just try 0:05:33.640 --> 0:05:36.880 to spend all my day out of the house out 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:41.200 on my rollerblades, which I had also recently taken up. 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:45.560 Everyone needs a hobby, and Joey found one that provided 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:48.320 both good exercise as well as a way to free 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:52.159 himself from the oppressive yoke of human dignity. And so 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:55.600 it was while rollerblading that Joey discovered his new home 0:05:55.640 --> 0:06:00.600 away from home, the pizza parlor. The pizza tarler played 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:03.400 cool music and had cool art on the walls. It 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:06.760 even served cool pizza. There was one shape like a 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:11.720 marijuana leaf and other shape like circles. But because Joey 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:15.080 was Joey, even a simple thing like ordering pizza was 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:19.080 a challenge, and so he rehearsed his icebreakers. 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:23.159 I found myself like making sure I could have something 0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:27.120 to say, like preparing something for the quick interaction while 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:30.760 I buy my pizza, Like what kind of thing I 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:33.200 don't know, Like if it's raining out, I would have 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:35.120 something clever to say about that, or. 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:37.920 Give me an example of the clever thing that you 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:39.320 would say when it was raining. 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:46.280 I'd say, oh, man, bummer, and this is not rollerblading weather, okay, 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:49.560 like I would or I don't know what I'm trying 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:49.800 to say. 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:55.400 Slowly, Joey began making social inroads, even managing to earn 0:06:55.480 --> 0:07:00.360 himself a nickname, that rollerblading guy. His fantasy is fun 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:04.160 in friendship with his bohemian loft buddies were over, but 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:06.880 his fantasy is a fun in friendship with his bohemian 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:09.840 pizza parlor buddies had only just begun. 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:14.360 I had planned on continuing to visit there and making 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:18.800 these friendships grow and hopefully progressing them to real life 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:20.120 friendships outside of the shop. 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:27.480 And so every morning Joey wood Blade straight to the 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:31.240 self service refrigerator that housed the day old dollar slices. 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:35.000 I pretty much exclusively ate pizza from that moment on 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:40.200 for all your meals pretty much. There was definitely days 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:42.360 that went by when it was just pizza. 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:45.120 Like, how many slices a day were you eating. 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:48.200 Say four or five? Two for breakfast and then stick 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:49.840 them in my backpack for the rest of the day. 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:53.200 What were you doing for fruits and vegetables? 0:07:54.760 --> 0:08:00.080 I occasionally got the veggie slice. 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:04.720 And that was Joey's life, eating za, rolling blades, and 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:09.680 waiting for old man scurvy until one terrible, horrible, no good, 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:11.160 very bad day. 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:16.800 January fourteenth, was like every other day. I woke up 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:20.320 to go get my pizza, headed into the shop, and 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:24.880 unfortunately I only found pepperoni in the fridge. 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:29.280 Joey is a vegetarian, and so without having prepared anything 0:08:29.320 --> 0:08:34.439 clever to say, like pepperoni pizza, Oh man, bummer, Pepperonis 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:38.760 aren't vegetarian, he instead said nothing and trying to just 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:43.120 roller blade back out the door without anyone noticing. But 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:46.000 he'd only bladed a couple blocks when he saw a 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:48.200 familiar face biking towards him. 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:51.760 And it's one of the pizza chefs. So I just 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:54.360 thought he was gonna hell, I don't know. I thought 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:57.320 he was gonna say, what's up, man, let's hang out. 0:08:57.360 --> 0:09:00.679 What's your name? Will, Let's you know. I thought he 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:04.120 was just interested in me. So I was excited to 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:07.559 see him biking towards me, and I took off my 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:10.560 headphones to greet him, and the first thing he said 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:21.280 is don't come back. I said, I said, excuse me, 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:25.120 he said, you're taking slices, I. 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:30.079 Said, what, and then it clicked, flipping through the dollar 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:34.240 slices and then abruptly leaving in silence. Looked fishy, like 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:35.679 Joey was stealing pizza. 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:41.160 And I was kind of like panicking talking to him, 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:42.600 like I could feel that I could hear the panic 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:44.960 in my voice and stuff, but I didn't know what 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:46.880 to say, so I kind of just I was kind 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:49.760 of speechless, and I, you know, didn't have the confidence 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:56.040 to keep fighting. Okay, yeah, and then he he biked away. 0:09:57.120 --> 0:10:00.280 I started crying on the streets, and I I must 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:03.520 have looked ridiculous, rollerblading down the street while crying. 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:07.880 At that point, it was a terrible day. It became 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:12.000 horrible as well as no good and very bad when Joey, 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:16.040 crying on the street, received a phone call bearing more 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:19.640 bad news. 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:25.160 The roommates had been kind of talking and they that 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:30.160 they used the words I'm getting under their skin. 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:36.520 The roommates found Joey's silent, sneaky ways unsettling. They wanted 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:37.240 him out. 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:42.800 I like went and got my stuff, and I don't know, 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:47.200 I basically moved out in that moment. I like just 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:53.439 left without seeing anybody and I kind of ran away. 0:10:57.720 --> 0:11:00.160 As the day came to a close, Joey called called 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:03.280 the one person he always calls, the person he's leaned 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:07.240 on his whole life, Elise, his twin sister. 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.080 She gave me the same advice that everyone did, which 0:11:10.120 --> 0:11:13.440 is just you know, go talk to them, be normal. 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:19.040 But I don't know. I mean, I never was able 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:22.080 to take that advice from anybody coming from her, though 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:25.880 it was especially I felt especially bad. 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:29.720 He was like almost in tears telling me this story. 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:33.840 Alise knows Joey better than anyone, and he's relied on 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:37.600 her socially his entire life. When he started dating, Alise 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:39.920 introduced him to her friends, and when he was too 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:43.520 anxious to attend family functions, Elise would go in his place. 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:46.760 And he told me about how he cried, which is 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:50.560 always he doesn't cry that often. You could tell it 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:52.560 was a big deal that he expressed that he cried 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:55.400 about it, and he told the whole story, and I 0:11:55.520 --> 0:12:01.160 was laughing so hard because really funny story, and I 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:03.800 wanted him to see that it was funny too, and 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:05.560 he could see the humor in it, but he was 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:08.359 also pretty clearly devastated. 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:11.959 When I ask Elise, what's so funny about her brother 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:15.000 crying on the phone. She makes a pretty strong case, 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:19.439 casually eviscerating him in the way only a loving sister can. 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:24.320 Him and his rollerblades and often like funny looking tank tops, 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:26.520 his like creeper mustache, and his mullet. 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:30.040 Definitely wait, just the look of him, Hang on a second. 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:31.320 He has a mullet. 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:44.880 Full mullet full, full, creepy young child mustache, and his 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:50.360 shoulders and arms look looks strong, but they're small, and 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:55.319 same with his legs. His legs are shockingly skinny. They 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:57.120 do have an incredible shine to them. 0:12:57.160 --> 0:13:01.000 I will admit, does he does he play at. 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:03.880 I'm not sure that's ointment. I'm guessing that's just his 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:04.800 oily self. 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:11.480 I don't want Joey to have to wait years and 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:14.440 years like I did, just to know the sweet joys 0:13:14.480 --> 0:13:18.720 of uncrippling an abnormality. So I asked Joey's oily self 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:21.360 what he most wants out of all this, and the 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:25.040 answer he delivers is pretty to the point, almost like 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:25.920 he's rehearsed it. 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:30.000 I want to say sorry that I wasn't able to 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:34.160 leave my room. I wish they knew how I felt, basically. 0:13:35.000 --> 0:13:37.720 But when I put forward my action plan for Joey 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:42.080 to fix his bad day by rerollerblading through it, rerollerblading 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:44.520 back to the pizza parlor to clear his name, and 0:13:44.679 --> 0:13:48.520 rerollerblading to the loft to apologize for being such a creepy, 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:52.200 sneaky roommate, I can hear the beads of sweat squeak 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:55.360 out of Joey's hairline and saturate his mullet. 0:13:56.320 --> 0:14:02.080 Right, yeah, I'm definitely yeah, I've definitely been meaning to, 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:07.680 but the prospect is pretty scary. I just mentioning it. 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:09.040 I got nervous, for sure. 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:13.920 Joey still wants to be invisible, but decades of experience 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:17.520 have taught me that oftentimes the more invisible you try 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:21.200 to make yourself, the more visible you become. So if 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:23.960 I have my way, Joey will no longer have to 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:28.640 hide in the metaphorical bush like a young metaphorical Jonathan Goldstein. 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:47.320 After the break, helping Joey to stop spinning his wheels. Okay, 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:49.280 hold the line for a moment, Joey, All right. 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:53.960 Sounds good. Hang on, I'm practicing my witty retorts anything. 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:59.360 Don't do that, Okay, During the ad break while you 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:03.120 were loading up on unbelievable deals, I was considering the 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:07.680 full extent of Joey's dilemma as much as Jonathan Debonair 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:12.440 Goldstein wanted to help him. The truth is, Jonathan Stuart 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:16.360 Goldstein is actually a lot like Joey. And so I 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:18.880 made a phone call to an old friend, a man 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:23.640 whose example and critical feedback, some might say overly critical feedback, 0:15:24.160 --> 0:15:30.680 have helped me to become the animalist socialibus. I am today, happy, confident, 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:34.360 out of the shrubs and loving it. And I was 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:38.240 hoping you could work the same magic on Joey. Joey, 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:44.840 this is my friend Gregor. Howdy, Hey, So Joey was 0:15:44.880 --> 0:15:47.720 living in this loft, and he Gregor is the exact 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:51.360 opposite of Joey and me in any given social interaction. 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:55.320 He's never afraid to stand out, never afraid to say 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:58.280 the wrong thing. Case in point, was. 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:00.000 Johnny kidding when he said you're wearing rollerblade? 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.840 Yes? No, I am a rollerblader. 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:06.640 But so you rollerbladed into the store wearing your rollerblades. 0:16:06.880 --> 0:16:07.360 That's right. 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:10.640 I have these very vivid memories of being in Central 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:13.880 Park and seeing these people, mostly grown men, on rollerblades 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:16.360 with that folded hands over the lower back and their 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:19.080 body bent forward like zipping around in like a lycroskin suit. 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:21.280 The big giant grin as they gasp for breath and 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:22.040 like goggles on. 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:23.960 You got all that out of your system. 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:27.040 I hate rollerbladers, and I hate everything about rollerblades, but 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:28.840 I think most people don't have the caurage to ask 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:30.760 for help. It takes a very big man to ask 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:33.400 for help. Okay, so the guy wants the rollerblade. 0:16:33.400 --> 0:16:33.760 Fine. 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:40.280 Since Joey feels most comfortable when he's rehearsing social interactions, 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:44.400 I suggest we do some role playing. Joey plays himself 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:48.240 and Gregor plays the pizza shop owner. After ten minutes 0:16:48.280 --> 0:16:53.000 deliberating over his character's name, Gregor decides on Carmine. 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:53.520 Please call me krmine. 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:56.000 All right, stop just trying to add a little depth 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:56.640 of the character. 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:57.400 Don't do that. 0:16:57.520 --> 0:17:01.400 Once I finish offering some helpful direction, we begin. So, okay, 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:04.520 so you're you're the owner. I'll do the folly work. 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:09.600 I'll make any necessary sounds. Okay, Joey, you're coming into 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:11.760 the pizza parlor, tingle, tingle. 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:18.280 Hey, so it's been a long time. I don't know 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:27.040 if you heard I. I had a bit of a. 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:30.520 Joey trails off. Even in a simulation, his nerves get 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:33.600 the better of him. I try to inspire him with 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:37.480 more folly work. Tingle, tingle. The place is starting to 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:39.040 fill up a little, so you might want to spit 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:41.399 it out. Tingle, tingle, tingle, tingle. 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:46.760 Oh my god, it's like radio lab. Suddenly a monkey 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:51.439 came in, Gregor call me Carmen. The whole duration of 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:53.639 this shoot. I need to be in character. I'm like 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:56.159 Daniel da Lewis. I will only answer if you call 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:56.719 me Krma. 0:17:56.880 --> 0:17:58.880 Why did I even have you be the shop owner? 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:00.160 Why wasn't I the shop. 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:02.800 I could be your son who's got like bigger dreams. 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:04.760 I don't want to spend my whole life saying pizza 0:18:04.920 --> 0:18:07.400 derailing that I got big dreams. I want to get 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:11.480 into real estate, commercial real estate. I want to least laundromats. 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:13.600 See I'm not like you, you really I want to 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:17.639 have a self storage unit. They're very profitable, don't you see? 0:18:19.480 --> 0:18:21.320 Now we're gelling as a team right at the very end. 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:23.040 As you start to fade us down, you can't even 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:23.959 hear what I'm saying anymore. 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:27.840 Sure, Gregor was taking none of the work seriously. But 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:31.920 Joey was enjoying Gregor, and in his own way, Gregor 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:43.639 was enjoying Joey. It looked like Gregor was in I 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:46.480 noticed that you like to sit very close to the gate. 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:49.879 Gregor and I meet at the airport for the flight 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:53.040 to see Joey in La. While squatting on the floor 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:57.160 staring fixedly at the gate, Gregor shares some insider tips 0:18:57.200 --> 0:18:58.440 on air travel. 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:00.600 Because when they say extra time getting on the game 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:02.560 jet way, you're allowed to run. 0:19:02.440 --> 0:19:03.120 Past those people. 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:10.800 You're allowed. 0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:14.360 See like I could easily run outrun that little girl 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:17.560 in the purple. Anyway, Johnny, stick with me. I'm gonna 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:21.520 show you how to board this big bird. That's what 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:23.080 I say as the pilot when I bought the play. 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:26.520 Let's bring this big bird down, brother. But that way 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:29.680 he knows I'm a member of the free Eternity of Aviation. 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:40.280 Cross checket where you grow on pompleys. 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:43.919 Once we've board it, running down the jetway like a 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:48.240 couple of giggling idiots, Gregor regales me with stories the 0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:51.240 time lou Reid threatened to put an ashtray through his head. 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:52.920 No, he didn't heavy glass. 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:55.040 One the time a taxi driver told me he had 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:56.560 eyes like his dead brothers. 0:19:56.880 --> 0:19:58.120 That's a terrible story. 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:00.880 The time all dozen or so members of the Wu 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:03.640 Tang clan squeezed onto his living room. 0:20:03.520 --> 0:20:05.600 Couch, he asked for my seat to tree. 0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:08.960 Then come the aviation stories, all the flights he's been 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:10.639 on where people have died. 0:20:10.880 --> 0:20:12.760 But then there was another photos on when someone died 0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:14.720 right next to me, and they were literally doing the 0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:16.959 thing on the PA where they're like, there's any doctors 0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:20.359 on board? And I was like, I'm kind of a doctor. 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:21.879 How are you kind of a doctor? 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:25.480 I'm a very good diagnostician. Look, we're on twenty five RL. 0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:27.480 It's one of my favorite runways. 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:34.159 Gregor and I rent a car and meet up with 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:37.919 Joey at his favorite coffee shop. From here, we planned 0:20:37.920 --> 0:20:41.000 to head to the pizza parlor, get him unbanned, and 0:20:41.040 --> 0:20:44.000 then go to the loft so Joey can apologize to 0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:45.159 his former roommates. 0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:49.560 Morning. Nice to meet hi, How are you hid? 0:20:50.480 --> 0:20:50.960 How are you? 0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:55.879 As well as being rollerblade footed, Joey's just as chopstick legged, 0:20:56.040 --> 0:21:00.119 mustache lipped, and mullet headed, as his sister Relise said, caution. 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:00.200 And. 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:03.439 Did it take you a while to decide like what 0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:06.199 you were going to wear today? Joey seems anxious, so 0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:10.439 I asked him, Joey, are you anxious? But before he 0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:12.439 can answer, Gregor steps in. 0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:14.040 Johny, let's take it from here. You don't want to 0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:15.720 make the guy nervous by asking me if he was nervous, 0:21:15.720 --> 0:21:17.440 Why don't you go around in a circle and each say, 0:21:17.440 --> 0:21:20.879 a member of the Wu Tang until we get. 0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:22.800 On with his idiot's game. What Gregor's really doing is 0:21:22.840 --> 0:21:30.119 distracting Joey, protecting him, in this case, protecting him from me. Ready, Okay, 0:21:30.160 --> 0:21:36.440 I'll start the rizza Diu stop is the genius? 0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:36.960 Genius? 0:21:36.960 --> 0:21:44.760 Okay, stop number one? The pizza parlor? Is this the place? 0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:46.080 What time they open? Eleven? 0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:49.320 Oh? I'm getting nervous. My stomach is jumping. 0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:52.160 Oh wait here, Joey, I have some of the creer 0:21:52.240 --> 0:21:55.960 just in case. As Joey's mentor, I know he runs 0:21:56.000 --> 0:21:59.000 a pretty good chance of choking, so I prepared him 0:21:59.040 --> 0:21:59.840 some notes during my. 0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:02.600 Okay, here you go. Read this that. 0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:06.800 You guys were like family to me, and when you 0:22:06.840 --> 0:22:09.439 accuse me of theft. I try it slower. 0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:10.680 You guys were like family. 0:22:12.920 --> 0:22:13.439 Go ahead. 0:22:14.320 --> 0:22:16.359 You guys were like family to me. And when you 0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:21.200 accuse me of theft, I mishandled the situation. I became discombobulated. 0:22:21.400 --> 0:22:23.960 I should have defended myself, told you I'm no thief. 0:22:25.440 --> 0:22:28.720 Although we want to offer Joey help, it's important that 0:22:28.800 --> 0:22:32.080 he do this on his own. No Gregor, no Jonathan, 0:22:32.480 --> 0:22:36.360 no Elise. We'll be there with Q cards and emotional support, 0:22:36.840 --> 0:22:40.280 but ultimately Joey needs to enter the pizza shop and 0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:42.119 make his case solo. 0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:44.400 We're gonna let Joey shine. 0:22:45.440 --> 0:22:47.120 Yeah, I mean I think like you bring. 0:22:46.960 --> 0:22:48.040 Your shine box, Joey. 0:22:48.520 --> 0:22:50.199 Are you getting the reference to the shinebox? 0:22:50.520 --> 0:22:51.800 That would be a you guys got a lot of 0:22:51.840 --> 0:22:53.639 references out on that. Have you seen Good Fellas? 0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:57.040 Do your joe pesci for Joey just to loosen him 0:22:57.080 --> 0:22:57.440 up a little. 0:22:57.680 --> 0:23:00.119 Ed was one tough irishman. I put his hand and 0:23:00.200 --> 0:23:02.720 advice tween days until his eyebowl pop. 0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:10.720 That yet, get two vegetarian pizzas stuff. 0:23:11.280 --> 0:23:14.800 I instruct Joey to order pizza and kombucha's for his roommates. 0:23:15.400 --> 0:23:18.240 This way the pizza parlor crew will see he's not 0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:21.600 just a dollar slice guy, but someone capable of committing 0:23:21.640 --> 0:23:25.240 to an entire pie and a vinegar and bile based beverage. 0:23:25.760 --> 0:23:27.120 It'll show personal growth. 0:23:27.880 --> 0:23:29.480 Just have fun yourself. 0:23:31.960 --> 0:23:37.680 Joey swings open the door and roller blades inside. Remember 0:23:37.680 --> 0:23:43.000 the rollerblading this whole time, Joey's been wheels down wearing 0:23:43.080 --> 0:23:46.520 his blades. You might want to rewind a few minutes 0:23:46.720 --> 0:23:50.119 and re listen with that image in your mind. And 0:23:50.160 --> 0:23:53.399 it's not just the roller blades. Joey is also wearing 0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:57.600 a wire. So standing outside, Gregor and I can eavesdrop 0:23:57.640 --> 0:24:00.760 on how things are going inside the parlor. Do you 0:24:00.800 --> 0:24:01.200