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Speaker 1: Hi, John, Okay. If I were to plan a surprise

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Speaker 1: vacation for us, where would you want to go? Did

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Speaker 1: you say vacation? Surprise vacation?

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Speaker 2: It could just never happen with my work schedule, like

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Speaker 2: I can, that can never happen.

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Speaker 1: Where would you want to go?

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Speaker 2: Why would I want to go?

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Speaker 1: For fun in the sun? Listen how stressed you sound.

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Speaker 3: The idea of actually being.

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Speaker 4: On vacation with you nice idea.

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Speaker 1: It wouldn't be vacation. It would be a slight cation

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Speaker 1: because we'd do everything on a sleigh. We'd dash through

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Speaker 1: the snow and I don't know, like check our phones

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Speaker 1: and argue. Occasionally you'd hang up on me and I'd

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Speaker 1: start the show. But from Gimblet Media, I'm Jonathan Goldstein

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Speaker 1: and this is Heavyweight today's episode. Joey as a young man,

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Speaker 1: whenever conflict arose, my go to move was to roll

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Speaker 1: up into a fetal ball and pray to go unnoticed.

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Speaker 1: Of course, this only made matters worse case. In point

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Speaker 1: one afternoon, while riding a trolley, I fell into a

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Speaker 1: daydream and missed my stop. Anyone else in my position

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Speaker 1: might have yelled I missed my stop, or open the door, please.

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Speaker 1: But in imagining all these trolley riding strangers turning around

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Speaker 1: decided it might be simpler draw less attention if I

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Speaker 1: just jumped off. As I landed onto the street, I

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Speaker 1: heard a high pitched scream that I would later realize

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Speaker 1: was now center stage. The trolley conductor skidded to a halt,

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Speaker 1: as I painfully crawled into a nearby bush. Once in

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Speaker 1: the bush, I hid waiting for the trolley to leave.

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Speaker 1: For young Jonathan Goldstein, the cost of staying silent that

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Speaker 1: day was two twisted ankles and the loss of my pride.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Joey, Hey there, it's awesome to hear from you.

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Speaker 1: This is young Joey, and he recently had a bad

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Speaker 1: day that forced him to realize his fear of being seen,

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Speaker 1: his fear of speaking up, was exacting a far greater

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Speaker 1: cost than a mere double ankle injury. It was ruining

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Speaker 1: his life, and so he's reached out for help from.

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Speaker 5: Me and just never get myself in a situation like

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Speaker 1: I think Joey is twenty two years old, and the

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Speaker 1: lead up to his terrible, horrible, no good, very bad

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Speaker 1: day begins right after his art school graduation, when he

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Speaker 1: moved into an artists loft in downtown.

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Speaker 5: LA live in that downtown city life kind of living

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Speaker 5: in a communal living style.

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Speaker 1: The downside was that the loft had bed sheeets for

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Speaker 1: walls in six roommates. But the plus side, the loft

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Speaker 1: had bed sheets for walls and six roommates, six super

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Speaker 1: cool roommates, a DJ, a dollmaker, a photographer, a guy

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Speaker 1: who quote trimmed weed, and super coolest of all, a podcaster.

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Speaker 5: And I pictured these cool artist types having great parties

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Speaker 5: and a lot of cool people over and all the

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Speaker 5: artists in the LA scene would come through, and I

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Speaker 5: was going to come in and hopefully fit in immediately.

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Speaker 1: But Joey didn't fit in immediately. He never felt comfortable

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Speaker 1: alone in his room rehearsing icebreakers. I like your tattoo,

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Speaker 1: he'd repeat to himself, your tattoo. I like it, sweet tat,

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Speaker 1: he'd say, pointing limply at the mirror like a socially

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Speaker 1: crippled Travis Bickle, Unable to come up with anything that

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Speaker 5: They'd all be in the living room right next to

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Speaker 1: Joey had been living in the loft several weeks when

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Speaker 5: She she was like, oh, hi, what's your name? Oh

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Speaker 1: Eventually, Joey began avoiding the loft altogether. He'd spend every

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Speaker 5: have to leave my room to pee. My new goal

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Speaker 5: was to just be as unobtrusive as a roommate as possible,

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Speaker 1: Everyone needs a hobby, and Joey found one that provided

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Speaker 1: it was while rollerblading that Joey discovered his new home

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Speaker 1: away from home, the pizza parlor. The pizza tarler played

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Speaker 5: I found myself like making sure I could have something

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Speaker 5: I buy my pizza, Like what kind of thing I

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Speaker 5: don't know, Like if it's raining out, I would have

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Speaker 1: Give me an example of the clever thing that you

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Speaker 5: I'd say, oh, man, bummer, and this is not rollerblading weather, okay,

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Speaker 1: Slowly, Joey began making social inroads, even managing to earn

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Speaker 1: himself a nickname, that rollerblading guy. His fantasy is fun

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Speaker 1: in friendship with his bohemian loft buddies were over, but

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Speaker 1: his fantasy is a fun in friendship with his bohemian

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Speaker 5: I had planned on continuing to visit there and making

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Speaker 1: And so every morning Joey wood Blade straight to the

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Speaker 5: I pretty much exclusively ate pizza from that moment on

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Speaker 5: for all your meals pretty much. There was definitely days

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Speaker 5: that went by when it was just pizza.

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Speaker 1: Like, how many slices a day were you eating.

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Speaker 5: Say four or five? Two for breakfast and then stick

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Speaker 1: What were you doing for fruits and vegetables?

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Speaker 5: I occasionally got the veggie slice.

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Speaker 1: And that was Joey's life, eating za, rolling blades, and

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Speaker 5: January fourteenth, was like every other day. I woke up

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Speaker 1: Joey is a vegetarian, and so without having prepared anything

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Speaker 5: And it's one of the pizza chefs. So I just

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Speaker 5: thought he was gonna hell, I don't know. I thought

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Speaker 5: What's your name? Will, Let's you know. I thought he

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Speaker 5: see him biking towards me, and I took off my

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Speaker 5: he said, you're taking slices, I.

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Speaker 1: Said, what, and then it clicked, flipping through the dollar

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Speaker 1: Joey was stealing pizza.

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Speaker 5: And I was kind of like panicking talking to him,

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Speaker 5: to keep fighting. Okay, yeah, and then he he biked away.

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Speaker 1: At that point, it was a terrible day. It became

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Speaker 5: The roommates had been kind of talking and they that

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Speaker 1: The roommates found Joey's silent, sneaky ways unsettling. They wanted

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Speaker 5: I like went and got my stuff, and I don't know,

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Speaker 1: As the day came to a close, Joey called called

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Speaker 1: the one person he always calls, the person he's leaned

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Speaker 1: on his whole life, Elise, his twin sister.

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Speaker 5: She gave me the same advice that everyone did, which

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Speaker 5: it was especially I felt especially bad.

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Speaker 6: He was like almost in tears telling me this story.

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Speaker 1: Alise knows Joey better than anyone, and he's relied on

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Speaker 6: And he told me about how he cried, which is

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Speaker 6: always he doesn't cry that often. You could tell it

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Speaker 1: When I ask Elise, what's so funny about her brother

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Speaker 6: Him and his rollerblades and often like funny looking tank tops,

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Speaker 6: his like creeper mustache, and his mullet.

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Speaker 1: Definitely wait, just the look of him, Hang on a second.

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Speaker 1: He has a mullet.

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Speaker 6: Full mullet full, full, creepy young child mustache, and his

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Speaker 1: I will admit, does he does he play at.

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Speaker 6: I'm not sure that's ointment. I'm guessing that's just his

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Speaker 1: I don't want Joey to have to wait years and

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Speaker 1: years like I did, just to know the sweet joys

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Speaker 1: of uncrippling an abnormality. So I asked Joey's oily self

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Speaker 1: what he most wants out of all this, and the

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Speaker 1: he's rehearsed it.

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Speaker 5: I want to say sorry that I wasn't able to

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Speaker 5: leave my room. I wish they knew how I felt, basically.

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Speaker 1: But when I put forward my action plan for Joey

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Speaker 1: to fix his bad day by rerollerblading through it, rerollerblading

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Speaker 1: back to the pizza parlor to clear his name, and

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Speaker 1: rerollerblading to the loft to apologize for being such a creepy,

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Speaker 5: Right, yeah, I'm definitely yeah, I've definitely been meaning to,

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Speaker 1: Joey still wants to be invisible, but decades of experience

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Speaker 1: After the break, helping Joey to stop spinning his wheels. Okay,

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Speaker 1: hold the line for a moment, Joey, All right.

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Speaker 5: Sounds good. Hang on, I'm practicing my witty retorts anything.

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Speaker 1: Don't do that, Okay, During the ad break while you

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Speaker 1: Goldstein wanted to help him. The truth is, Jonathan Stuart

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Speaker 1: have helped me to become the animalist socialibus. I am today, happy, confident,

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Speaker 1: this is my friend Gregor. Howdy, Hey, So Joey was

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Speaker 1: living in this loft, and he Gregor is the exact

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Speaker 1: He's never afraid to stand out, never afraid to say

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Speaker 2: Johnny kidding when he said you're wearing rollerblade?

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Speaker 5: Yes? No, I am a rollerblader.

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Speaker 2: But so you rollerbladed into the store wearing your rollerblades.

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Speaker 5: That's right.

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Speaker 2: I have these very vivid memories of being in Central

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Speaker 2: The big giant grin as they gasp for breath and

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Speaker 1: You got all that out of your system.

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Speaker 2: I hate rollerbladers, and I hate everything about rollerblades, but

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Speaker 2: I think most people don't have the caurage to ask

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Speaker 6: Fine.

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Speaker 1: Since Joey feels most comfortable when he's rehearsing social interactions,

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Speaker 1: I suggest we do some role playing. Joey plays himself

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Speaker 1: deliberating over his character's name, Gregor decides on Carmine.

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Speaker 2: Please call me krmine.

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Speaker 1: All right, stop just trying to add a little depth

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Speaker 7: Don't do that.

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Speaker 1: Once I finish offering some helpful direction, we begin. So, okay,

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Speaker 1: so you're you're the owner. I'll do the folly work.

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Speaker 1: I'll make any necessary sounds. Okay, Joey, you're coming into

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Speaker 1: the pizza parlor, tingle, tingle.

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Speaker 5: Hey, so it's been a long time. I don't know

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Speaker 5: if you heard I. I had a bit of a.

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Speaker 1: Joey trails off. Even in a simulation, his nerves get

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Speaker 1: it out. Tingle, tingle, tingle, tingle.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's like radio lab. Suddenly a monkey

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Speaker 2: came in, Gregor call me Carmen. The whole duration of

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Speaker 2: this shoot. I need to be in character. I'm like

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Speaker 2: Daniel da Lewis. I will only answer if you call

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Speaker 1: Why did I even have you be the shop owner?

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Speaker 1: Why wasn't I the shop.

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Speaker 2: I could be your son who's got like bigger dreams.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to spend my whole life saying pizza

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Speaker 2: derailing that I got big dreams. I want to get

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Speaker 2: into real estate, commercial real estate. I want to least laundromats.

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Speaker 2: See I'm not like you, you really I want to

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Speaker 2: have a self storage unit. They're very profitable, don't you see?

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Speaker 2: Now we're gelling as a team right at the very end.

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Speaker 2: As you start to fade us down, you can't even

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Speaker 1: Sure, Gregor was taking none of the work seriously. But

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Speaker 1: Joey was enjoying Gregor, and in his own way, Gregor

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Speaker 1: was enjoying Joey. It looked like Gregor was in I

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Speaker 1: noticed that you like to sit very close to the gate.

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Speaker 1: Gregor and I meet at the airport for the flight

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Speaker 1: to see Joey in La. While squatting on the floor

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Speaker 1: on air travel.

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Speaker 2: Because when they say extra time getting on the game

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Speaker 2: jet way, you're allowed to run.

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Speaker 5: Past those people.

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Speaker 1: You're allowed.

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Speaker 2: See like I could easily run outrun that little girl

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Speaker 2: in the purple. Anyway, Johnny, stick with me. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: show you how to board this big bird. That's what

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Speaker 2: I say as the pilot when I bought the play.

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Speaker 2: Let's bring this big bird down, brother. But that way

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Speaker 2: he knows I'm a member of the free Eternity of Aviation.

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Speaker 5: Cross checket where you grow on pompleys.

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Speaker 1: Once we've board it, running down the jetway like a

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Speaker 1: couple of giggling idiots, Gregor regales me with stories the

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Speaker 1: time lou Reid threatened to put an ashtray through his head.

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Speaker 2: No, he didn't heavy glass.

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Speaker 1: One the time a taxi driver told me he had

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Speaker 1: eyes like his dead brothers.

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Speaker 5: That's a terrible story.

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Speaker 1: The time all dozen or so members of the Wu

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Speaker 2: Couch, he asked for my seat to tree.

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Speaker 1: Then come the aviation stories, all the flights he's been

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Speaker 2: But then there was another photos on when someone died

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Speaker 2: thing on the PA where they're like, there's any doctors

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Speaker 1: How are you kind of a doctor?

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Speaker 2: I'm a very good diagnostician. Look, we're on twenty five RL.

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Speaker 2: It's one of my favorite runways.

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Speaker 1: Gregor and I rent a car and meet up with

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Speaker 1: Joey at his favorite coffee shop. From here, we planned

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Speaker 1: to head to the pizza parlor, get him unbanned, and

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Speaker 1: then go to the loft so Joey can apologize to

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Speaker 5: Morning. Nice to meet hi, How are you hid?

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Speaker 8: How are you?

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Speaker 1: As well as being rollerblade footed, Joey's just as chopstick legged,

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Speaker 1: mustache lipped, and mullet headed, as his sister Relise said, caution.

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Speaker 5: And.

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Speaker 1: Did it take you a while to decide like what

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Speaker 1: you were going to wear today? Joey seems anxious, so

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Speaker 1: I asked him, Joey, are you anxious? But before he

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Speaker 2: Johny, let's take it from here. You don't want to

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Speaker 2: make the guy nervous by asking me if he was nervous,

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Speaker 2: Why don't you go around in a circle and each say,

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Speaker 2: a member of the Wu Tang until we get.

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Speaker 1: On with his idiot's game. What Gregor's really doing is

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Speaker 1: distracting Joey, protecting him, in this case, protecting him from me. Ready, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'll start the rizza Diu stop is the genius?

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Speaker 2: Genius?

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Speaker 1: Okay, stop number one? The pizza parlor? Is this the place?

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Speaker 2: What time they open? Eleven?

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Speaker 5: Oh? I'm getting nervous. My stomach is jumping.

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Speaker 1: Oh wait here, Joey, I have some of the creer

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Speaker 1: just in case. As Joey's mentor, I know he runs

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Speaker 1: a pretty good chance of choking, so I prepared him

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Speaker 1: some notes during my.

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Speaker 4: Okay, here you go. Read this that.

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Speaker 5: You guys were like family to me, and when you

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Speaker 5: accuse me of theft. I try it slower.

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Speaker 1: You guys were like family.

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Speaker 6: Go ahead.

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Speaker 5: You guys were like family to me. And when you

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Speaker 5: accuse me of theft, I mishandled the situation. I became discombobulated.

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Speaker 5: I should have defended myself, told you I'm no thief.

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Speaker 1: Although we want to offer Joey help, it's important that

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Speaker 1: he do this on his own. No Gregor, no Jonathan,

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Speaker 1: no Elise. We'll be there with Q cards and emotional support,

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Speaker 1: but ultimately Joey needs to enter the pizza shop and

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Speaker 1: make his case solo.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna let Joey shine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think like you bring.

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Speaker 2: Your shine box, Joey.

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Speaker 1: Are you getting the reference to the shinebox?

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Speaker 5: That would be a you guys got a lot of

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Speaker 5: references out on that. Have you seen Good Fellas?

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Speaker 1: Do your joe pesci for Joey just to loosen him

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Speaker 1: up a little.

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Speaker 2: Ed was one tough irishman. I put his hand and

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Speaker 2: advice tween days until his eyebowl pop.

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Speaker 5: That yet, get two vegetarian pizzas stuff.

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Speaker 1: I instruct Joey to order pizza and kombucha's for his roommates.

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Speaker 1: This way the pizza parlor crew will see he's not

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Speaker 1: just a dollar slice guy, but someone capable of committing

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Speaker 1: It'll show personal growth.

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Speaker 2: Just have fun yourself.

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Speaker 1: Joey swings open the door and roller blades inside. Remember

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Speaker 1: the rollerblading this whole time, Joey's been wheels down wearing

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Speaker 1: it's not just the roller blades. Joey is also wearing

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Speaker 1: a wire. So standing outside, Gregor and I can eavesdrop

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Speaker 1: want to hear?

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Speaker 2: I can't stand well.

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Speaker 1: Gregor paces back and forth on the sidewalk. I cut

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Speaker 5: Hey, how's it going?

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Speaker 1: Joey is greeted by a pizza chef.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know if you remember me. I used

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Speaker 5: to come here all the time. I was kicked out

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Speaker 5: of your shop a couple months back for stealing slices,

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Speaker 5: even like I was accused of stealing slices. No, I

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Speaker 5: totally know why you thought it was me because it

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Speaker 5: looked like I mean, I came.

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Speaker 1: In, Gregor and I watch nervously through the storefront window.

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Speaker 5: Oh, he's blowing in, rushed to his eight.

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Speaker 1: Joey isn't mounting a defense, and he isn't offering a

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Speaker 1: counter narrative. Instead, he's exhibiting a level of mealy moothery

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Speaker 1: not seen since a young Jonathan Goldstein tried to explain

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Speaker 5: And I was kind of hoping I could come back

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Speaker 1: Love But as Gregor and I bicker over whether to

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Speaker 1: a dessert trolley full of flaming horse manure, we noticed something.

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Speaker 5: I know, it's weird that's been so long, but I

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry. She's really nice.

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Speaker 1: You saw like someone come in and with like bloller seats.

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Speaker 5: I remember that day. I was working that day.

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Speaker 1: Not only does she remember that day, but she also

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Speaker 1: remembers Joey.

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Speaker 5: No, I was a guy who came in like several times.

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Speaker 5: She's like, yeah, no, I see, I think that was me.

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Speaker 1: Kind of remembers Joey.

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Speaker 5: I came in. I'm a vegetarian. I saw that you

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Speaker 5: guys only had Pepperoni slices because I was like, oh,

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Speaker 5: not for me, And I just turned around totally looks

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00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 5: like I just grab one.

438
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: And since you didn't do it, you know, you don't

439
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: have anything.

440
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,479
Speaker 5: To apologize for it. Yeah, I just want to make

441
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 5: sure you, like you guys, don't think I did a

442
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 5: man okay, okay, cool.

443
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, if he was willing to come back to face

444
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: his accusers, she says, he probably didn't steal the pizza,

445
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 1: and with that, Joey orders his pies and kombucha's with

446
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: her faces pressed against the window. Gregor and I watch

447
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 1: with amazement as Joey waits for his order while engaging

448
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 1: in some completely unscripted repartee cool song. He says, totally.

449
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: She says this band is so cool. He says yeah.

450
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: She says, we didn't prepare Joey for any of this,

451
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: but here he was riffing and scatting away like some

452
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: kind of improvisational jazz cat Carmine would have been proud,

453
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 1: thank you very much, and tingle tingle. Joey emerges from

454
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: the restaurant holding our pizzas aloft like trophies. Joey, Oh

455
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:44,680
Speaker 1: you did it.

456
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:45,959
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I'm shaking.

457
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 2: I'm shaking it.

458
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 5: You did a great job.

459
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: Despite his fear of saying the wrong thing, Joey had

460
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: managed to put himself out there and stumble his way through. Joey,

461
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: that was great, and like, yeah, you really like and

462
00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,719
Speaker 1: you did it by yourself. We didn't have to go

463
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 1: in anything.

464
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 5: Yah, that's awesome. Oh I really really was nervous though.

465
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 5: I felt my leg completely shaking. I thought she was

466
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 5: gonna look down and just see my leg shaking like it.

467
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 2: Okay, one to ten, how you feel? Did you wrestle

468
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 2: the bear?

469
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 5: Because I know I still have to go to the loft.

470
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 5: That's you know, the relief hasn't come.

471
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: But after the break, Joey tries rolling up a much

472
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: harder hill, apologizing to people. He actually knows.

473
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 2: Those people you lived with, they actually know the real

474
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 2: joy I mean maybe they didn't like the real Joys,

475
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 2: but they knew who you were.

476
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 5: No, I don't think they did. I mean I hope

477
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 5: they did it.

478
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: Do you think it's a good sign that the roommates

479
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: did not respond? No?

480
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 5: No, to be honest, I'm pretty nervous about that.

481
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: Joey had tried to contact his former loft mates via

482
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: group text to let them know he'd be coming by

483
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: to talk. But as we stay and on the street

484
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: in front of the building, our kombucha bubbling and vegetarian

485
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: pizzas congealing, Joey checks and re checks his phone, not

486
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: a single one of his former roommates has responded.

487
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 2: Not even like any response is not a good sign.

488
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: Well maybe that's better than like responding by saying I'm

489
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: not interested. Right, the loft is on the second floor,

490
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: behind the metal gate, and there's no doorbell.

491
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 2: All right, let's figure out how to get into this fortress.

492
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 1: There's no drain pipe to shimmy, no fire escape banister

493
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 1: to reverse oli. All we can do is wait for

494
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 1: someone to come in or out. Gregor fills the time

495
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: with yet another aviation story.

496
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 2: When I was going through the TSA, the lady was like,

497
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 2: could you pull your pants up a little bit?

498
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 5: You just told me to take my belt off.

499
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 2: Now my pants are falling down. You want me to

500
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 2: pull my pants up?

501
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 4: Which is it?

502
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: You really get told to play an?

503
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 2: I get told that every time I go through the tar.

504
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: Where's a belt with a pair of shorts? You wear

505
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: a belt and shorts?

506
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 5: Yep, I never heard of that.

507
00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 2: How do you think I keep mouth?

508
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: I think someone's coming. Thankfully we're interrupted.

509
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 5: Oh thank yo, how's it going?

510
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: One of Joey's old roommates emerges. He's a hip young

511
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: man who, if not wearing a straw pork pie hat

512
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: and carrying a gondola paddle, is certainly giving off that vibe,

513
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: a Venetian boatman vibe. Joey, foregoing all social foreplay, dives

514
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: right in.

515
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm here because I want to apologize. I don't

516
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 5: know if you've got the group text. Oh no, yeah,

517
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 5: I just wanted I felt really bad about how I

518
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 5: love things here, so I brought some pizza and my

519
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:36,959
Speaker 5: friends here. Okay.

520
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: Joey gestures over to his friends, two balding middle aged

521
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: men slumping behind him like bald scarecrows stuffed with museley.

522
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 5: Hey, h okay, all right, well this is really awkward

523
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 5: in a surprise.

524
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 4: All right, I was just going out of my car.

525
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: Okay, So the boatman isn't very receptive, but Joey proceed.

526
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 5: Does anyone else tell him? If you want to ask

527
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 5: if they are okay with me coming up?

528
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you so much. It's taken all of Joey's

529
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,479
Speaker 1: courage to return to the place where the coolest art

530
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: kids in La live, and he's still being denied entry.

531
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: As Joey stares in silence at the steel door that's

532
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: just clanged shut in his mustachioed face, I struggle to

533
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: come up with something positive to say. I think you

534
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: handled yourself.

535
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,719
Speaker 5: Well, I'm extremely nervous right now. I don't feel good

536
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 5: about how this is going.

537
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: Upstairs, the gondolier is saying to his roommate something along

538
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: the lines of, Hey, remember that silent roller skating weirdo

539
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: we kicked out of our art loft. Well, he's downstairs

540
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: with pizza and his two gay dads. But then, yo,

541
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:02,959
Speaker 1: how you doing. Zach is the unofficial head of the household,

542
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: the guy who takes care of all the square noormy

543
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: stuff like throwing out expired cottage cheese and paying the

544
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: rent on time. He's bearded and shaggy. He turns to Joey.

545
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: Joey stares down at his rollerblades and starts mumbling explanations.

546
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just thought. I mean, I didn't think it

547
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 5: was just like I just thought, like.

548
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: I haven't heard this much mealy mouthing since I guess

549
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: an hour ago, when Joey was at the pizza parlor.

550
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: Zach looks at Joey skeptically. His arms are crossed. Nonetheless,

551
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: Joey soldiers on, I.

552
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 5: Just feel really bad about kind of how how I

553
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 5: left things here. Huh. Yeah, I know that I wasn't

554
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 5: the best roommate, and I feel really bad. I'm just

555
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 5: kind of uncomfortable about like just you know, even just

556
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 5: how you guys think about me. But I just wanted

557
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 5: to apologize and make things right.

558
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 4: There were things like that bugged me.

559
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: Here we go no Whereas the pizza chef had been

560
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: impressed with the mere fact Joey had returned for Zach,

561
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: that wasn't enough.

562
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 8: You had your headphones on a lot, and you had

563
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 8: noise canceling headphones.

564
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 4: You're just like in your world.

565
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: He launches into a laundry list of grievances.

566
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 4: Didn't clean the bathroom, and I was just like.

567
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: Dude, Joey ignored everybody, never cleaned up after himself, never

568
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: even washed a dish.

569
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 4: The amount of rent or who's paying what? Or why

570
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 4: are you paying her and not paying Ah?

571
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: The worst thing Joey could imagine was happening. He was

572
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: being seen and told that he'd always been seen. He

573
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: put all his effort into trying to become invisible and

574
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: absolutely no effort into doing his share of the chores.

575
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: That's why his roommates wanted him out. They'd seen him

576
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: visibly not cleaning the loft, visibly not taking out the garbage,

577
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: trying to hide but not really hiding at all.

578
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 4: He taking an advantage of And that's what I was like, whoa.

579
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: If ordering a pizza had given Joey the Jimmy legs,

580
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: facing Zach was giving Joey the Joey leg a name

581
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: I've just coined for a condition in which one's entire

582
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: body becomes one single Jimmy leg that is a Joey

583
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: leg that won't stop. Jimmy ing is like a liberty,

584
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: you know. But while Joey is jimmy ing, he isn't folding,

585
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: He's not running away.

586
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 4: But it was just the way that it was done. Yeah.

587
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: As Zach finishes speaking, Joey maintains eye contact. And what's more,

588
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: as the la breeze whips up the hindquarters of his mullet.

589
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: He does not fall prey to his lifelong crutch, silence,

590
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: without notes, without wittyish rejoinders. He responds all this stuff,

591
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: like the.

592
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 5: Not paying rent on time, and all the chory stuff,

593
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 5: all that stems from this shyness, this like the weirdness

594
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 5: and like just feeling uncomfortable to like, I don't know,

595
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 5: be in the public space is kind of just because

596
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 5: I'm weird and shy, and I can't blame it on

597
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 5: anything but myself. I mean, it was all It's all me.

598
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 5: It's like my own things.

599
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: Zach looks at you as I wish I was more.

600
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 5: Able to like be friendly with you guys.

601
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: Sees them struggling, and his face softened.

602
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 8: I understand like having social anxiety, having like issues where

603
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 8: you're like you feel something that's like strangling you in

604
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 8: a position where you have to converse or whatever.

605
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 4: Like I can understand that.

606
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, like I only wanted to just be friends with

607
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 5: you guys.

608
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 4: I have I appreciated where were you staying now?

609
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: Awkwardness is just a step along the way to vulnerability

610
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: and being vulnerable, allowing yourself to be seen is the

611
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: only soil from which friendship can grow.

612
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 4: I love your funky style.

613
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,399
Speaker 1: And what better fertilizer than a mutual love of the mullet.

614
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 8: I've been contemplating a similar mullet as yours, but I

615
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 8: don't know if my hair would work as much as yours.

616
00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 4: You have a different volume.

617
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: So as Zach and Joey wax on about the beauty

618
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 1: of Joey's ape drape, another loft made appears in the stairway.

619
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 5: Nice.

620
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 7: Yeah, if that's okay, that's great, Thank you, Holy cow,

621
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 7: this is a really big space.

622
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 6: Good.

623
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: Joey leads Gregor and I on a tour through the

624
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: old audio cassettes and dummy heads, past the kickboxing bag

625
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: and vinyl collection, and ends the tour in a truly

626
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: empty V cribs kind of way at his old bedroom

627
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: where the magic happened. And by magic, I mean where

628
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: Joey slept on the floor wrapped in unwashed blankets.

629
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 5: This is where you used to stay.

630
00:35:48,680 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: Did you have a mattress? Joey breaks out the pizza

631
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 1: and kombucha, and we all gathered by the hot plate

632
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: for a toast.

633
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 2: You're supposed to actually look up, look at each other's eyes.

634
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 5: The communication.

635
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: After we choke back our kombucha, I suggest a symbolic gesture.

636
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 1: You want to you want to wash all the glass?

637
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,280
Speaker 5: I do. This is totally ridiculous.

638
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 1: You're gonna use soap and everything.

639
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 5: I know.

640
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:38,959
Speaker 6: Something.

641
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: Just as we're about to leave, Gregor decides he'd like

642
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: to use the bathroom. And whereas a couple of shrinky

643
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: and sneaky violets like Joey and me might just slink

644
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: off looking for it, Gregor does not.

645
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 2: It might be too much of in a position if

646
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 2: I was to leave a little urine in your toilet

647
00:36:58,560 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 2: on the way out.

648
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: By embracing the awkwardness of life, acknowledging that we are

649
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: creatures who require toilets, Gregor somehow makes things less awkward,

650
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: at least for himself. Gregor has mastered something that Joey

651
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: is still learning the art of saying, here I am,

652
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: even when peeing into a toilet while wearing a lapel microphone.

653
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 8: You're welcome, Thank you, take it.

654
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 5: Easy, Thanks you guys.

655
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: After leaving the loft, there's only one thing left to redo.

656
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 2: Hello.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Joey phones up his twin sister Release, and this

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Speaker 1: time he isn't crying.

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Speaker 5: It was so good, it was so cool. Yeah, I

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Speaker 5: think he genuinely forgave me and I did it all

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Speaker 5: on my lone, son.

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Speaker 4: No, you did it.

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Speaker 5: You needed so much help. Well after I got the help,

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Speaker 5: I did it on myself, you know, I mean, but

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Speaker 5: now I just feel like I can do it on

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Speaker 5: myself by myself.

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Speaker 6: I am really proud of you that I know that

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Speaker 6: it takes a lot.

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Speaker 1: It did.

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Speaker 5: It takes a lot from me. Yeah, you know more

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Speaker 5: than anyone. Your proudness feels good.

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Speaker 1: I'm not surprised that Elise is proud, but I'm taking

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Speaker 1: aback to see that. Gregor looks proud too, proud of himself,

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Speaker 1: of course, but also with Joey. So once Joey gets

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Speaker 1: off the phone, Gregor offers up some fatherly advice.

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Speaker 2: I understand what it is to be young. It's a

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Speaker 2: tough phase. Until you're about forty five. Life is really difficult, okay,

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Speaker 2: and then from there on in it's all just sitting

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Speaker 2: in one of those soapbox derby cars, rolling down the

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Speaker 1: You're depressing the guy.

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Speaker 2: I'm coming to my Hallmark inspirational line. I'd say it's

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Speaker 2: a tough fifteen to twenty five year period. It's very

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Speaker 2: unpleasant really most of it.

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Speaker 5: Could you repeat that Hallmark line again?

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Speaker 1: And with that, Joey pulls off his unlikeliest feet, yet

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Speaker 1: he gets in a genuine off the cough zinger. Gregor

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Speaker 1: and I had brought this big bird down a big

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Speaker 1: group hug.

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Speaker 5: On Kang Kang, there we go, touching me.

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Speaker 3: Now that the furniture's returning to its goodwill home, now

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Speaker 3: that the last.

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Speaker 5: Month's rant is scheming with.

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Speaker 2: The damage to pozzle, take this moment to deserve.

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Speaker 3: If we imagine, if we felt for far.

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Speaker 1: From things good. Accident Heavyweight is hosted and produced by

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Speaker 1: me Jonathan Goldstein, along with Khalila Holt, Peter Bresnan, and

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Speaker 2: You're fly Enough, You see it All, Johnny. I've seen

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Speaker 2: people get married on planes, people get divorced, babies being

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Speaker 2: born a bunch of times, seen a man take another

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Speaker 2: man's life. Mar Mitz's Wutkins Vinieires. I've seen on planes,

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Speaker 2: seen kittens be born,