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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. He's Hanging with the

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Speaker 1: Talking Cowboys break streaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the official Dallas Cowboys out Welcome to a special,

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Speaker 1: very special edition of Hanging with the Talking Cowboys break.

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Speaker 1: I am Shannon Gross, host of Hanging with the Boys.

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Speaker 1: I am joined by Rob Phillips from Talking Cowboys, Isaiah Standback,

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Speaker 1: former Dallas Cowboy of Talking Cowboys, and Nick Eatman from

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Speaker 1: the break. How are we doing today, fellas? What's up here?

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Speaker 1: Lovely lovely good man? So we we we got together.

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Speaker 1: Nick called me today and said, man, that was such

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Speaker 1: a hell of a first round of the draft. Some

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Speaker 1: people's jaws are still on the floor. Some people are

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Speaker 1: really pumped. Some people are in disbelief that they didn't

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Speaker 1: go defense. We need to talk about this. Let's get

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Speaker 1: a show together. And I was like, let's do it, man.

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Speaker 1: So Rob, we pulled you in. Isaiah and Isaiah you

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Speaker 1: I'm interested to get your thoughts on going with a

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Speaker 1: wide receiver in the first round when you absolutely needed

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Speaker 1: defense and everybody thought you were going defense, but when

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Speaker 1: you gave a guy and Steven said it last night

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Speaker 1: after the after the show, after the draft, they had

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Speaker 1: this guy number six on their board. When he falls

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Speaker 1: to number seventeen, you gotta go with him, right, absolutely, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: those guys didn't have a choice. Man. As much as

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Speaker 1: they like all the Cowboy Nation recognized that we needed

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Speaker 1: defense and we needed to take care of everything, all

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Speaker 1: the opportunities that were presenting in front of us on

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Speaker 1: that side of the ball. When somebody like that falls

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Speaker 1: into your lap and you have an opportunity to solidify

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Speaker 1: your offense, you just can't miss on it. Rob, What

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Speaker 1: were your I know you were you were watching the

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Speaker 1: broadcast last night, you were watching, you know, the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Live Draft show and seeing how everything was playing out.

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Speaker 1: What what did you think whenever the pick came down

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Speaker 1: from the Cowboys. Well, like everybody, I was surprised. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we had a Fox for Southwest taping earlier in the

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Speaker 1: day and we talked wide receivers and I think out

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Speaker 1: of my mouth was well, we don't need to worry

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Speaker 1: about CD Lamb. Yeah, he's great and all, but he's

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Speaker 1: gonna be in the top twelve picks. And when it

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Speaker 1: didn't happen, you know, like Isaiah said, you got to

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Speaker 1: take your best value, especially when it's that high of

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Speaker 1: a value, and to me it's you know, a lot

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Speaker 1: of times in the draft, the safe pick isn't always

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Speaker 1: the sexy pick. You know, twenty fourteen, Zack Martin wasn't

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Speaker 1: a splashy draft pick. Now he turned out to be

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Speaker 1: by far the right pick over Johnny Football. But the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys in this instance, they got, they got. They made

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Speaker 1: a splashy pick, and they made the safest pick. Although

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Speaker 1: to Isaiah's point, you know, they need to look at

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Speaker 1: defense now going forward in the draft, whether it's a corner,

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Speaker 1: whether it's a safety, whether it's a defensive lineman. They

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Speaker 1: need to address that. But I do think it does

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Speaker 1: feel somewhat ad need for them. I know Nick wrote

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Speaker 1: a column about best player available. He's exactly right, but

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Speaker 1: wide receiver to some extent, maybe top three or four

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Speaker 1: needs that they had, and they addressed it early. Nick,

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Speaker 1: you were you go ahead, and I was just gonna

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Speaker 1: say you were right. You were right in the middle

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Speaker 1: of talking to DeMarcus Ware and Jamie Thoughts on our

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Speaker 1: live draft show last night when the pick came down,

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Speaker 1: and you got to talk to him a little bit after.

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Speaker 1: What what did you think when all that was going Now, well,

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Speaker 1: you know they were you know, d Ware of course,

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Speaker 1: was like, you gotta get the pass rushure, right, you

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Speaker 1: actually on when Jerry Judy was getting picked. So you know,

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Speaker 1: at that point, you know, Ken Law and Judy and Lamb,

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Speaker 1: but I thought, I think Rob said it best, especially

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Speaker 1: when you think about what Jerry Jones loves. If you

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Speaker 1: can get the sexy pick and the smart pick is

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Speaker 1: the way, that happens to be the number of the

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Speaker 1: made a documentary about eighty eight. So that's pretty big

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Speaker 1: if you want to throw him in there. I think

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Speaker 1: he wants to wear number ten. But we'll see who

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Speaker 1: this upset that they didn't go defense or we all

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Speaker 1: where they were at. I'll say this, Shan and if

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Speaker 1: if aj Terrell from Clem's and would have been there

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Speaker 1: because I from what I hear, their grades were very similar.

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Speaker 1: I think Tarrell might have been the pick. I don't

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Speaker 1: therefore you know, they take the CD Lamb. But um,

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Speaker 1: would have been interesting if a cornerback that they really

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Speaker 1: have had a different pick here. So yeah, don't I

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Speaker 1: don't know him, Nick, Man, I see I see it

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Speaker 1: the other way man, I've known knowing Jerry. He likes

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Speaker 1: And if you can score enough points, man, your defense

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Speaker 1: just has to be so so fair. So yeah, go ahead, Shannon, No,

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Speaker 1: They need to they need to get a starter up

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Speaker 1: potentially on defense as well tonight, whether it's at the

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Speaker 1: I guess with Zeke um and so if you could

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Speaker 1: spread them out and run Zeke Man, that's that's definitely

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Speaker 1: think that they're taking an approach of like a Kansas City, right.

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Speaker 1: We see, everybody saw what Kansas City did last year

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Speaker 1: And I think that's the position that the Cowboys are

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Speaker 1: in now. On offense, having fulfilled all these I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Talking Cowboys, their front seven is not bad. There.

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Speaker 1: First seven is actually pretty dog gone good. They need

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Speaker 1: and Isaiah Stanback. We're gonna talk draft and other things,

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Speaker 1: but mainly draft. So Isaiah, I want to get your

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Speaker 1: your feedback on what is what does life look like

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Speaker 1: for Cedee Lamb the next couple of days, couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks and then heading into training camp. Absolutely right thing.

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Speaker 1: You know, today, he'll enjoy the moment. You know, obviously

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Speaker 1: he'll do a ton of interviews, he'll be all over

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Speaker 1: the gaming in terms of that. But then tomorrow it

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Speaker 1: gets back to normal. Tomorrow, you know, you're you're a

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Speaker 1: rookie on campus again. You know you have to get

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Speaker 1: you know, if you can whatever whenever they're able to

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Speaker 1: send over to play. But he'll dive directly into that,

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Speaker 1: right that'll be number one. He'll get into that. He'll

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Speaker 1: get into the off season, off season program. Uh, they'll

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Speaker 1: start analyzing his physical his nutrition, his strength and conditioning program.

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Speaker 1: They'll get him all screwed up there. But I mean

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Speaker 1: in terms of him, just as a player, you come in,

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Speaker 1: you be humble. It doesn't matter what what pick you were,

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter that you're a first round guy. You

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Speaker 1: come in, you understand that, Hey, I'm now new on campus.

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Speaker 1: Hey I have a role to fulfill. I need to

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Speaker 1: get into the locker room. Um, you know, let guys

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Speaker 1: see my personality, let guys see my work ethic, and

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Speaker 1: more than not, you know, let my work, you know,

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Speaker 1: speak for itself. You know, you never want those guys

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Speaker 1: that come in and just do a bunch of wolf

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Speaker 1: and a bunch of talking that that never goes over well,

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Speaker 1: even if they're able to back it up. So come in,

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Speaker 1: be humble, work your tail off, Understand that you play

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Speaker 1: a small role in the big picture, and I think

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Speaker 1: you'll be You'll be received well from the rest of

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Speaker 1: your teammates. You know, Isaiah hold On, I think I think, Isaiah,

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Speaker 1: I think that makes a perfect sense if he's allowed

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Speaker 1: to do that. But what if it's a what if

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Speaker 1: it goes over his head? What if he's he's given

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Speaker 1: the number eighty eight, which you know, and then it'd

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Speaker 1: be humble. But we're gonna compare you to three of

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Speaker 1: the best receivers of all times. To remember that's what's

483
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Speaker 1: picked twenty four. Randy Gregory was picked sixty and they

484
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Speaker 1: gave him ninety four, So it's not above them to

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Speaker 1: do that. I think that all that sounds great, but

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Speaker 1: I do wonder you start, you give the guy number

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Speaker 1: eighty eight, all of a sudden, expectations change and people

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Speaker 1: are looking around, and so I wonder if he tries

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Speaker 1: to have that approach, but maybe it's gonna be, you know,

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Speaker 1: something out of his control. Yeah, I mean, even if

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Speaker 1: they do it, they put it like this, everybody's always

492
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Speaker 1: gonna put pressure on you. Right, your first round pick,

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Speaker 1: you have that pressure. And then I'm by the way,

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Speaker 1: you're a first round pick in Dallas, right, so you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have a ridiculous amount of pressure on you no

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Speaker 1: matter what. Remember you're coming in you're gonna have two

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Speaker 1: one hundred million dollars guys. Well, there is the a

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Speaker 1: three one hundred million dollars guys on the roster. He's

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Speaker 1: still a small fish in upon right. So that's the

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Speaker 1: great thing about coming into this environment. From the pick

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Speaker 1: that he has. Even if they do give him eighty eight,

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Speaker 1: you still have or who just close out a deal.

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Speaker 1: You still have Zeke. You still have Dak that's about

504
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Speaker 1: to get some big boy money. So in the grands

505
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Speaker 1: came at Temes. He's not the superstar, and that is

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Speaker 1: the greatest position that you could be in as a

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Speaker 1: as a high high draft pick, coming into a situation

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Speaker 1: where you don't have to be the guy. So I

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Speaker 1: think that he has nothing but time under him, and

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Speaker 1: it is the best situation that he could have possibly

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Speaker 1: walked into. I said, you said something on our show

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Speaker 1: a couple of days ago. I loved it. You talk

513
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Speaker 1: about how drafting players, you gotta have mentally tough guys,

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Speaker 1: guys that can handle it on the field and off

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Speaker 1: the field, and everything you hear about cdee Lamb, he

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Speaker 1: could do that. One thing I noticed about DeMarco Murray

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Speaker 1: when he came in to Dallas a few years ago.

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Speaker 1: He was all business. And I think maybe it had

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Speaker 1: to do with that OU program because that I mean,

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Speaker 1: they are like approved team up there in terms of

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Speaker 1: their visibility and expectations, and maybe that's something that's gonna

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Speaker 1: serve him well. Coming into Dallas because you guys are right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a monster spotlight and you've got to

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Speaker 1: be able to handle it. Hey don't look now, but

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Speaker 1: they picked up this off season. They've signed Gerald McCoy,

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Speaker 1: went to Oklahoma, Blake Bell Oklahoma, MA. Now this guy

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Speaker 1: um Ceedee Lamb. And you know, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you looked at my mock draft, but I had Jalen

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Speaker 1: Hurts in the fourth round. I know he's in Alabama

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Speaker 1: and Oklahoma. Guy maybe gives Land the quarterback that he's

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Speaker 1: that he's played with this last year. But that's one

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Speaker 1: thing I really though, I do love about what he

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Speaker 1: did in his career. He had three different quarterbacks. Now

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Speaker 1: two of them were picking number one overall and won

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Speaker 1: the Heisman. But still not a lot of continuity. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter who's throwing the ball. Still productive. That's what's

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Speaker 1: so great about Hungry Hopkins. To me, whoever the quarterback is,

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00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 1: you know, Michael Thomas is the same way. Just throw

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Speaker 1: it out there and I'll catch it. Absolutely, Nick, you

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Speaker 1: brought it up. You brought up Jalen Hurts. What do

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Speaker 1: we think for these these next two days of the draft.

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Speaker 1: What do you guys expecting or there any current balls

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Speaker 1: that we that we might see, like, yeah, you brought

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Speaker 1: up Jalen If if they're looking if they draft a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: does that mean they're not happy with Dak? Does that

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Speaker 1: mean because this team doesn't have a history of drafting

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks as as flyers in the recent years. The reason

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Speaker 1: why I think I think that Jalen Hurts might be

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Speaker 1: somebody they would be interested in, but probably in the

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Speaker 1: fourth round, and he might go before that. But let's

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Speaker 1: just say he's unlike another third or fourth round pick

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Speaker 1: because you wouldn't have some packages for him. We know

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Speaker 1: this is a copycat league, and so what's happening in

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Speaker 1: New Orleans Taysom Hill. They're trying to groom him to

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Speaker 1: be a quarterback. But in the meantime, let's figure out

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Speaker 1: a place for you to go. And I think that's

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Speaker 1: something that if they drafted Jalen Hurts, that would be

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Speaker 1: his role. Yeah, you're a quarterback, but let's don't just

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Speaker 1: wear the ball cap. You're gonna do some stuff here

560
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: as you as you develop. But I don't think it

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00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: means anything to what they both feel like about Dak

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Speaker 1: and sending messages and anything like that. I just think

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Speaker 1: that they think he's a great athlete and they wouldn't

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Speaker 1: find a spot for him. I picked him in my

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00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: mock draft in the fourth round. I bet he doesn't

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Speaker 1: last that month. Rob, what do you think about that?

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Speaker 1: I think he's He's one of a few guys that

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Speaker 1: are going to be available in the middle rounds at

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Speaker 1: quarterback that you know started a lot of games in college,

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Speaker 1: are winners, you know from from Georgia's another guy just

571
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Speaker 1: throwing another guy out there. There's there's some quality, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe mid round quarterbacks out there. I don't I don't

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Speaker 1: know if they're going to go that route. I know

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Speaker 1: they might like to, because you know, they talked to

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Speaker 1: in the pre draft press conference about just trying to

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Speaker 1: develop that quarterback room. And you know, Cooper Rush is

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Speaker 1: on a one year deal and hasn't played a lot

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Speaker 1: of football, and Mike McCarthy's an offensive guy and he

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Speaker 1: has a history of drafting quarterbacks, even behind Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 1: It might be something they like to do, but they

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Speaker 1: do have some other needs and I wonder if they

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Speaker 1: need to get to those first. But there could be

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Speaker 1: value that presents itself somewhere in the later rounds. I

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Speaker 1: agree with Nick, it's got nothing to do with Dak

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Speaker 1: Presscott at all. That's the guy, and we'll be the

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Speaker 1: guy for several more years. What are some of those

587
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Speaker 1: needs that where do you think they're gonna go? And

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Speaker 1: anybody jump in here. Where do you think they're gonna

589
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Speaker 1: go tonight? They've got what two picks tonight? Do you

590
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Speaker 1: think they're both defense? Or do you do you think

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Speaker 1: they're just trying to build this You know, we've heard

592
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Speaker 1: this coaching staff on offense and defense say, hey, we're

593
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Speaker 1: not gonna try to make anybody fit into a position

594
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Speaker 1: that they don't fit into. We just want the most

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Speaker 1: talented guys that we can get on the field, and

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Speaker 1: we'll figure out how to play them. Do you think

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Speaker 1: it's possibility they could go offense again with one of

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Speaker 1: these two picks or do you think they have to

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Speaker 1: go defense with both of these? I think they have

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Speaker 1: to go defense. I mean I think I think then

601
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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones has had his candy. Now he has any

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Speaker 1: I think he has all the candy that he needs

603
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: right now. His sweet tooth is fulfilled at this point.

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Speaker 1: Now you address your needs right you're a you're a here.

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Speaker 1: You had a great opportunity for somebody out of talent

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Speaker 1: likes he need to drop into your lap at that position,

607
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: and you literally solidified your offense. Your offense is good, right,

608
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: you can always add depth, right, but your offense is

609
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Speaker 1: perfectly fine. Now you are Kansas City in Dallas, perfect

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Speaker 1: all right, Cool, that's out the way. You need defense.

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Speaker 1: You need some guys that are versatile on that defense

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Speaker 1: side of the ball. You need some guys that can

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Speaker 1: play the edge. If I was over there picking and

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Speaker 1: I was a general manager, even though I'm not, if

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Speaker 1: I was, I would get somebody who can play, you

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Speaker 1: know that stand up in or as another great outside

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Speaker 1: linebacker for you. So if you feel that that those

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Speaker 1: three linebackers, that those two linebackacies you already have. Obviously

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Speaker 1: Shawn Lee's coming back, but you have you got you

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Speaker 1: got Jalen Smith, and you've got the dog on wolf

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Speaker 1: in there. And if you can add another young, hungry

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Speaker 1: guy that can feel some gaps, I think you're you

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Speaker 1: got some range and those guys can run side to

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Speaker 1: side on the sideline of sideline. So that's more I'm

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00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: thinking that they're gonna go as either get a strong

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Speaker 1: outside linebacker that's aggressive, or get a statup, a stand

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00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: up in Isaiah. Do you watch college game day? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I mean Luke Lee Corse with my thin not so fast,

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Speaker 1: not so fast? And how about how about this though

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Speaker 1: addressing needs. You're in the second round and you have

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Speaker 1: a guy that you rated on your board who is

632
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Speaker 1: a sinner. Now you've got a journeyman, veteran guy and

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Speaker 1: Joe Looney who on a one year deal. If you

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Speaker 1: can solidify that position, and here's the guy that's going

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Speaker 1: to play three to four five years for you, like

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Speaker 1: that to me is a need. I know that you're

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00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: still stacking offense. But can Looney get the job done? Yes?

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Speaker 1: And maybe McGovern comes in, But what if you've got

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Speaker 1: a guy that's sitting there. I mean, they have a

640
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: good track record of drafting centers like that with Frederick.

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00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: You know, that's just an option. If there's one sitting

642
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: there that they like, that is a need. I don't

643
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: disagree with you, but I think the NFC in a

644
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: position that they're in right now. If you look at

645
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: all the other teams in our division, they are stacking

646
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: up on offense. They are completely everybody's stacking up at receiver.

647
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: Everybody's stacking up with all their weapons ready to go

648
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: off there and and be lightning fast to be able

649
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: to score touchdowns immediately. If you don't combat that, what's

650
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: up talent on the defensive side of the ball, you

651
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: can score at the points you want to. We're gonna

652
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: be sitting up. You're looking at a hundred point games.

653
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: You need to be able to stop them from scoring.

654
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: So they have to and I say, have to emphasize that.

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Speaker 1: Get some guys on the defenside of ball. Not to

656
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: say that they don't, they have some great pieces, but

657
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: why not solidify your front seven. If you solidify your

658
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: front seven, like I said, your secondary doesn't have to

659
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: be great, and your offense is already great. So let's

660
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: go out here to make sure that we can stop

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00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 1: the dog on a run and get some pressure on

662
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Speaker 1: the cornerback and guess what, life gets easier. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm with Isam. I mean I think it's I think

664
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Speaker 1: it's time to try to address it. But I mean,

665
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: look there, if they're gonna stick to what they did

666
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: last night, they're gonna go with who's the best on

667
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: their board? Uh, with sub regard to need obviously, and um,

668
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: there's there's gonna be a lot there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: good prospects left on paper. I mean a lot of

670
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: guys that got first round buzz and all these mock

671
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: drafts that are still out there. And and Stephen Jones

672
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: was on the fan earlier today and didn't give the

673
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: impression that they were inclined to try to move up

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00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: to get somebody, um, you know, because they don't want

675
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 1: to sacrifice future picks, even in this rap. So, uh,

676
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: it's pretty you know. Adam Schefter just tweeted that some

677
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: executive in the NFL to them, this might be the

678
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: deepest second round in twenty five years. So they got

679
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,720
Speaker 1: a shot to get a baller, I mean, whether front seven,

680
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: like Isaiah said, so maybe somebody in the second area,

681
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: just somebody that can that can help and compete and

682
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: maybe get some playing time. Uh, and just and just

683
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: add to some competition on defense, because you know, defensive

684
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: side of the ball was not as consistent as the

685
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: offensive side last year. I was told, guys, I was

686
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 1: told today that the Cowboys have twenty five players with

687
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: second round grades that are that are on the board

688
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 1: right now, and they take eighteen in this second round

689
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Speaker 1: and one of those players, actually I say twenty four.

690
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: One of them has the first round grade. So um,

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00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: we'll see, if you know, if he lasts to him.

692
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: But still at picking eighteen, you really don't have to

693
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: move up. You're gonna get a good football player and there.

694
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: So that's an encouraging signed for the Cowboys. That Will

695
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: it be on defense? Will it be a position to

696
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: be We'll see. But I don't disagree with you, guys.

697
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: I do think defense is where they need to go.

698
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: But if a center is staring you in the face,

699
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: you know, let's not forget that you could be down

700
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: the road next year and doing a bang. We gotta

701
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: get ourselves a center. So yeah, yeah, but I'm with you.

702
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 1: I mean I would, I would look at it. I

703
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a defensive end because there's five

704
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: or six defensive ends that they like in the second

705
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: round that are there. I think the one will be

706
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: there for him. Yeah, I think I think the Cowboys

707
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: have a great opportunity right now to think think back

708
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Speaker 1: to the old school Baltimore teams. Right thinking back to

709
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 1: old school Baltimore Ravens when they had all those dogs

710
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: on defense, right, and their front seven was just nasty.

711
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: They had Sarah Busa they had and they had all

712
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: those guys plugging up the gaps, right. Very's similar to

713
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: McCoy and the guys that we have right now. Rather

714
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: they're gonna be plugging up those a gaps, right. And

715
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,439
Speaker 1: what did it allow Ray Lewis to do? They allow

716
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: Ray Ray to be a beast? Right, Y was able

717
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: to run, he was able to field gaps. He's able

718
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: to play sideline, the sideline unintruder, right. Nobody was getting

719
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: in this way. That is the system that that McCarthy

720
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: has already came in and it really started implementing a

721
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 1: little bit at a time, right. He started putting a

722
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: couple of key elements in there. And I think that

723
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: they really have a great opportunity to fulfill that and

724
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 1: play similar to that or not, you know, to my horn.

725
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: When I was playing with the Giants, our front sevement

726
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: was nasty as well. We had a ton of d lineman, right,

727
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: and we cause we cause a bunch of issues for

728
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: office alignement um and in the league. So I think

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00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: that we have a great chance to make that happen. Yes,

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00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 1: certain Nick who's Ed Reid. Yeah, yeah, of course, of course, yeah, yeah, yeah,

731
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Speaker 1: that guy. We don't have an ed read yet, but

732
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: I think they're closer to Ray Lewis. I hate saying that,

733
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: but I think you're closer to Ray Lewis with those linebackers.

734
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Speaker 1: You have that, but you don't really haven't. And Ed Reid,

735
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: you're You're exactly right though. It starts up front. You

736
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Speaker 1: get guys up front and let those guys fly around

737
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,439
Speaker 1: and make plays and and that's when I do love

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Speaker 1: and for us the round. I love the fact that

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00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: they said all on this offseason, hey, we're not worried

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00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: about scheme. We're gonna get good football players. And that

741
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: was evident in the first this first big here, it's

742
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: like we're getting a good football player regardless of scheme.

743
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: Oh that's the best thing I heard this offseason was

744
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 1: that they'll just find guys and then fit the scheme

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00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: to it. Because there's a lot of times in the

746
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: past regime that had a lot of success at times

747
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: on defense. But you know, well they didn't. They didn't

748
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: like this guy because he didn't he didn't you know,

749
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 1: he's kind of a square peg in a round hole.

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Speaker 1: That's that doesn't appear to be the case, you know,

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00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: from a philosophy standpoint, and I think that's good. I

752
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: think you're more multiple on defense and using the talent

753
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: that you have that way. All right, let's take another break.

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Speaker 1: When we come back. I want to know if there's

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00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,280
Speaker 1: any is there any concern with the secondary? We put

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00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: a lot of emphasis on the front seven. Um, you

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00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 1: know they beat that up a little bit with with

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00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:05,640
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00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,640
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Speaker 1: Are you comfortable with Woods back there? The departure of

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Speaker 1: Jeff he Why do you guys think we're going defensive

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00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: line instead of secondary? Or should we go secondary? Want

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Speaker 1: The Cowboys have selected from Washington quarterback Isaiah standing back. Yes,

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Speaker 1: how about that? Does that bringback some memories? That's a throwback, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm surprisedly I got that. What was going on? Walk

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Speaker 1: My phone started ringing, and it was it was a

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Speaker 1: surreal moment because my grandfather had just passed and he

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Speaker 1: was a Cowboys fan, and um, we're sitting in the

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Speaker 1: same room that either he had passed in. So it

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Speaker 1: was it was pretty dark on emotional. Once I got

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Speaker 1: that phone call from that guy, Jerry, that's awesome. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: if you if you got if you look at you

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Speaker 1: get a chance to go to YouTube search the longest

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Speaker 1: hell Mary in Chilge football history. It is the damnest

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Speaker 1: thing you've ever seen. I'm not I'm not joking. It

833
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Speaker 1: is a seventy five yard pass from the twenty five

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Speaker 1: to I don't know who you threw it too. I

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Speaker 1: think it was before a half. But I mean, hell Mary,

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Speaker 1: They didn't get a credit for that either. I'm not

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Speaker 1: right there. Why not? Why not? I think because it's

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Speaker 1: So I'm where you went back to the twenty five

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Speaker 1: moved over from the merch side over to the football

851
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,720
Speaker 1: media side, and I think it was my first training camp.

852
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 1: It might have been Tyring Smith's first year. I think

853
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: it was rookie year and I in our second year

854
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 1: or something, and I remember I remember, I don't remember

855
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 1: exactly what, but I was there and I remember seeing

856
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: out on the field there was a guy on his

857
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: knees throwing footballs through the uprights and I think you

858
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,720
Speaker 1: were on the thirty or the forty and just chunking

859
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 1: them with nothing but your upper body stream and I

860
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: was just like, what is going on? It was like,

861
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: this guy's not even the quarterback, like he's he's a

862
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Is that the same story? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

863
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: that's it. That's the story. I remember that you gotta

864
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: you definitely have a gun and Isa, I'll say, that's

865
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: when when the Cowboys, I guess you went to the

866
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: Giants or I don't remember exactly, but when the Patriots

867
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: signed you and made you a quarterback, people around the

868
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:28,719
Speaker 1: Cowboys and it was like, oh crap, because Bill Belichick

869
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: knows a lot of things, and he's gonna make this

870
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: guy a quarterback. Why didn't we do this? You know?

871
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: And like I guess, I guess you weren't there for

872
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: that long. But still I always kind of thought maybe

873
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 1: that they should have tried that, you know, just just

874
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: for different packages and stuff. Yeah, whatever we're talking about. Nah,

875
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: not here, man. They didn't want nothing to do with

876
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: me a quarterback. I think that was right when Romo

877
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: was was right. You know, you're about to get the

878
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: big boy check. So I don't think they wanted anybody

879
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: challenging his position. But it would have been nice, man.

880
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: It was. It was definitely a hard transit with everything

881
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: I had going on, trying to play at a whole

882
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: new position. But um, you know, any thing's worked out

883
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: the way here as supposed to. You know, right, Tony

884
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: got paid that year. Tony got paid that same year,

885
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: like I was Obervo seven, He got his first big

886
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: boy contract. Ye, yes, he did. What's the furthest you've

887
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: ever thrown a ball in the year eighteen yards I

888
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: think for myself or no no pads on, no pads on.

889
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 1: I think I did eighty three, and with whippad with

890
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 1: pads on, I think it was seventy eight. So yeah,

891
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 1: just just seventy eight, just saying gosh, hey, hey, I'm

892
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,919
Speaker 1: not I'm not great at math, but if I could

893
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: throw at eighteen yards, he takes eighty three we're in

894
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: the zone for good good we got this. Oh what

895
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: what are some names that that that the fans could

896
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: expect to uh to hear? Call? Who are some guys

897
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 1: you think at the Cowboys? Rob Nick, Isaia Ady, y'all

898
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: jump in? Who do y'all think that there's some interest

899
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: in either tonight or going into going into Saturday? Uh?

900
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll start, let's uh, I think some defensive

901
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 1: ends is what I said earlier. I'll throw some names

902
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: out there. I know there's some other positions there, but

903
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: defensive end. You know, you look at a couple of guys,

904
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 1: you know from the SEC. There's a guy a Taylor

905
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: from Tennessee. There's a Zooniga from Florida. I guess you

906
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: can we get a Shannon Gross. It was this gross

907
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 1: matels from our matels from Pitts State. Yeah. Yeah, those

908
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: guys right there. I mean that those are some names,

909
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: especially those two Taylor and Zoonaga. They could be there

910
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: when the Cowboys pick either. Those are a couple of

911
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: guys I would look at. Oh yeah, there's only one

912
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: name that I have that I think, Mike Faull to

913
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: the cow Ways. And as much as I wanted to

914
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: defensive end. I think that they have an opportunity, like

915
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: I said, to really lock in that linebacker corps. And

916
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 1: I think I think they As much as it hurts

917
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: me as a former Washington you know, Husky to say,

918
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: you know, but but Troy Die how to organ I

919
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 1: think Troy Die. I think he's rangey, he's long, um,

920
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: he's aggressive, and I think he really fits the mold

921
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: that's gonna fit in with you know, vander ash and Jalen.

922
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: So I think they have opportunity to lock that core in.

923
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: I mean, those guys would be together forever. Yeah. In

924
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 1: the secondary, you know, some of those those quarters that

925
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: were getting some first round buzz. Trevon Diggs is still

926
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: out there. I believe Christian Fulton and and some of

927
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: those top safeties. I've had a man crush on on

928
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: Grant Delpo for a long time. I don't know if

929
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: the Cowboys would go that route, um, but there's there's

930
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: guys on the back end that they're impactful players if

931
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: they want to. You know, if they were to follow

932
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: in that range, they might be interesting for the Cowboys

933
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: to look at for sure, But they gotta they gotta

934
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: waits to go. They gotta they gotta wait about twenty

935
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: picks almost to get there. Huh yeah. I don't know

936
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: if we have the picture of our draft guide that

937
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: we put out, but the guys that did it were

938
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 1: really excited about the fact that that Ceedee Lamb was

939
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: on the cover and it just really happy about it.

940
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: But if Grant Delpot, who's also on the cover, if

941
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: that guy gets picked, we we land two of our

942
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: three guys on the cover from the Cowboys. I mean,

943
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: that's gonna be like the greatest thing ever, so right, yeah, yeah,

944
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,720
Speaker 1: but you know you said, you know delp it Xavieran McKinney,

945
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: I think I think is one of the highest players

946
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: they have still on their board. Um, you know McKinney,

947
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: delp it Um. I think I'm missing a safety or two.

948
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: It's Wield Winfield, Yeah, Winfield. Uh. Those guys right there,

949
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: I mean, they that would be really good if if

950
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: they could could get one of those defensive back I

951
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: just think that they're gonna be in good shape. I

952
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: think somebody that they really like is going to be

953
00:48:55,360 --> 00:49:00,320
Speaker 1: sitting there at eighteen. I mean, I say eighteen fifty

954
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 1: one fifty one is to pick. It's just eighteenth pick tonight. Yeah,

955
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 1: you're pretty You've been pretty good the last several years

956
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 1: on the later rounds of the draft. You're you're you know,

957
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 1: you're sixth round and on kind of people that are

958
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: you know, obscure names or something that you've been pretty

959
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: good at hitting on one or two of those every

960
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: every year. Is their name on Day three on Saturday

961
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: that that you could see possibly interest in or or

962
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: anyone you've heard or could be out there that they're

963
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: looking at. Uh. I mean, yeah, we did our our

964
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 1: mock draft um and and you know, I would put

965
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,240
Speaker 1: a few guys up there. I think there's a corner

966
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 1: from Louisiana Tech Sneed. I think I think he's a

967
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: guy uh that they they like, and maybe maybe a

968
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: safety from a te Brandon Jones. But then a lot

969
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: of those things change if you if you get some

970
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 1: you know, guys earlier. It's why it's kind of tough

971
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: to to to make those seven round mocks, because you know,

972
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: you I think they love Chase Chase Claypool from Notre

973
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: Dame third round, but not anymore he's the receiver because

974
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: they got Ceedee Lamb, so that it kind of goes

975
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: out the window. Yeah, is there any concern from any

976
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: of you guys. You're you're really building up this front seven,

977
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: you know with these editions of Poe McCoy. Uh, you

978
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: got a really good, strong front seven. How do you

979
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: feel about the back end of this defense? With Byron

980
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 1: Jones leaving, Jeff Heath leaving, now you're leaving it in

981
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 1: the hands of some guys that are really, you know,

982
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: basically you know, kind of unproven or still proving themselves

983
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: in Cheeto and Jordan Lewis and Anthony Brown and then

984
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: Xavier Woods, Like what are you guys, what are your

985
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: thoughts on the secondary and and how do they fix

986
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: that or does it need to don't I'm not sure

987
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: that it needs fixing. I mean, it definitely can can

988
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: use an additional, um, you know, athlete, But I think

989
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: they have good athletes. I think they have guys that

990
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: are very versatile, UM that that can play multiple positions

991
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: out there, UM that aren't necessarily designated to one side

992
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: of the field. And I think that's all you can

993
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 1: hope for. Right, I mean, like, like I touched on

994
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: in previous shows, you have a heck of a coach

995
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: at that position as well, right, UM and Al Harris

996
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 1: and somebody who was experienced, somebody who was physical, somebody

997
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: who's gonna you know, be able to show them, to

998
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: show them the ropes from a player, from a player's perspective.

999
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: And again, you know, leaning back on what we've been

1000
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 1: talking about, that front seven, that allows for them the

1001
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: time to develop. It allows for them to be able

1002
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: to make mistakes and recover from them because they don't

1003
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: have to be perfect. So I think that you know,

1004
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 1: with the additions, you know that that they made this

1005
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: so far um, that that they're they're in good shape.

1006
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 1: They can grab one more guy um to fit the

1007
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 1: you know, a corner position. I think they'll be happy. Yeah,

1008
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: I agree, I really I think I got knocked off

1009
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: when I was talking about the corners. George Lewis was

1010
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: more playing time. I want to see that. I really

1011
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: like the Hawk Clinton Dick signing. I mean, I think

1012
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: he's he's a rangy guy. That's to me. He looks

1013
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: like more of a box safety when I watch him play,

1014
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: and he just played for McCarthy. I think that's that's

1015
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 1: a solid signing. I think, you know, past twenty twenty,

1016
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: you have to look at what your secondary's gonna look like.

1017
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 1: I mean that there's guys that are up for contract

1018
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: and you want to maybe protect yourself a little bit

1019
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: by bringing in a guy bringing some competition. You know,

1020
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: when Mike Nolan came in and spoke to us first

1021
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: time as defensive coordinator, he's talking about, we need to

1022
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: we need more takeaways, we need guys that can take

1023
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 1: the ball away. And if you can find a guy

1024
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,319
Speaker 1: back there that can do that in this draft and

1025
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 1: add some competition to the group, I think that could

1026
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: be really good. You know, guys, I don't want to

1027
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: get too far ahead, and this might be an example

1028
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,439
Speaker 1: of getting, you know, a little bit ahead of the game.

1029
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 1: But if you look at them, maybe the twenty thirty

1030
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 1: eight draft, but in eighteen years, I think I think

1031
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: my son Jacob has a chance to maybe be there

1032
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 1: be alignment or whatever. He's watching right now. I just

1033
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: want to say hi to him, Hey, buddy, But you know,

1034
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: maybe he's Zach Martin. He's Zach Martin one day. He is.

1035
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 1: He's a big solid and he's kind of thinning out

1036
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: a little bit. But he's watching right now. Just he's

1037
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 1: not eligible right now, but he might be about i'd

1038
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:17,040
Speaker 1: say eighteen years yeah, seven, how about seventeen years. He's

1039
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: gonna come out early. Yeah. Hey, if the boy goes

1040
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: to college, that would be great. That would that that

1041
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: would be that would be great. He will though. Oh man, well,

1042
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 1: before we get out of here, are there any any

1043
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: party words or anything, any words of wisdom you guys

1044
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: have going forward for the next two days of this draft? Defense,

1045
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: defens No. I just yeah, yeah, I think I think so.

1046
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think I love what Isaiah said.

1047
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: I think that's the best best way to say it.

1048
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 1: Jerry got his candy, you know, he got his candy

1049
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: and down, you know. Now now you gotta get your vegetables. Yeah,

1050
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: and so well, we'll see, we'll see what happens. But

1051
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 1: I think I think defense would would be great. But

1052
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna be hard to have a bad

1053
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:11,800
Speaker 1: draft at this point. You get the sixth player on

1054
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: your board at number seventeen that you're already in the

1055
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 1: A plus range right now in your draft. And we'll

1056
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: see how how they finish it off? Yea. How it's

1057
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: money right now? Yeah? Absolutely? All right, fellas well, this

1058
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,839
Speaker 1: has been fun, Uh, Nick, or any plans on doing

1059
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 1: another one of these before? Uh? For the end of

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Speaker 1: the draft or is this just a special occasion. Well, yeah,

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00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: I mean I think so. We The thing about it

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00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: Friday is that you have a little time to have

1063
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 1: a little shelf life. Probably about doing these on Saturday

1064
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: is that you know they they're you know, blowing and

1065
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: going before you know it in the morning. So uh, yeah,

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00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: this was this was fun. But you know, we'll definitely

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Speaker 1: be talking on uh next week. And I know Isaiah

1068
00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: and he's doing well over at Hockey Cowboys and with

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00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: with Rob and Heckma and Kyle and that group. Kyl

1070
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: have a lot of things to say, you know, um

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Speaker 1: and then uh and you know, and you said it,

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00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: you said it best too. About Jesse, Holly will have

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00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: some things for your show. I'm hanging and Nate n

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00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 1: I'm hanging with the boys. You know what. I I

1075
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 1: almost hope that they go offense again, because they have

1076
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 1: been screaming for the last three months. You gotta go defense,

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00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: you gotta go defense. If they were to go offense

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Speaker 1: back to backgrounds, I think we me and Kurt, which

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00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 1: we don't talk much on that show anyway, would probably

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Speaker 1: not get a word in because they would be so

1081
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 1: pissed off about going offense two picks in a row.

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Speaker 1: So I'm excited to see what happens, just to just

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Speaker 1: so we can talk about it on Monday. So, um,

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Speaker 1: Rob and Nick, before we get out of here, what

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00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: are some what are some things we can we can

1086
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:55,919
Speaker 1: expect on Dallas Cowboys dot com. Obviously articles on every pick.

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Speaker 1: What are some other things that fans can look for

1088
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:04,399
Speaker 1: as uh the next two rounds come up? Oh uh,

1089
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: you know that that's that's one thing. Like I'm not

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Speaker 1: trying to dodge to the question, but I've learned this

1091
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Speaker 1: a long time ago. You can't ever get ahead of things.

1092
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: You really, you can't get ahead of the draft, and

1093
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:16,759
Speaker 1: you never know. I mean, yeah, we'll have articles on

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Speaker 1: all picks. We'll try to do a little bit more

1095
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,919
Speaker 1: on CD lamb um see if we, you know, maybe

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00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: can get him, get some interviews with him and some

1097
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,919
Speaker 1: other guys. And uh, you know, his number is still

1098
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: out there, like they're still doing a little debating back

1099
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 1: and forth on what number he's gonna wear. So hopefully

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Speaker 1: that'll get resolved. If it's eighty eight, I think that

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00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 1: that'll be interesting. But you know, it's just you know,

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Speaker 1: it'll it'll just be um. There's things we don't even

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Speaker 1: know about right now that that's going to happen. So

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Speaker 1: I wish I had a better answer for you there now.

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Speaker 1: It's tuning in the draft show while you're reading. Yeah,

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00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: you know what, check the website every two minutes from

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Speaker 1: now to the end of the draft. We could use

1108
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: the use the clicks and you'll get some information. So

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Speaker 1: there you go. You'll find out when the articles come

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Speaker 1: out what we do. So Isaiah good doing a show

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00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:12,760
Speaker 1: with you. Appreciate you joining us. Rob Good seeing your brother.

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Speaker 1: I'll see you soon, hopefully in person before too much longer. Nick,

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Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure, even though I talk to you

1114
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Speaker 1: about ten times a day, even when we don't do

1115
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: these things. I'm sure I'll be talking to you real soon.

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Speaker 1: Matt Kent, Chris Beam, thanks for getting us on the air. William,

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00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: thanks for putting us on the website. We will be

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Speaker 1: back at some point. Appreciate you all joining us. Looking

1119
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Speaker 1: forward to the the draft tonight, the Draft tomorrow, and

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Speaker 1: go Cowboys. You've been listening to hanging with the Talking

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Speaker 1: Cowboys break. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys

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