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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, April thirteenth. This is Jaguars Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: and now a guy who's willing to eat some mushrooms

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Speaker 1: just to protect Princess Peach Jay Peace Shack. We're throwing

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Speaker 1: back to Nintendo days with Joe Today. Welcome in. It's

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour. I'm j P. Shadrick. We've got a

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Speaker 1: busy hour ahead as we are two weeks to the

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft. Jaguars analyst Jeff Logerman coming up. Trevor Seckama

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Speaker 1: will join us from Pro Football Focus and we'll get

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Speaker 1: his thoughts on the NFL Draft and some prospects from

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Speaker 1: different position groups the Jaguars might be leaning towards in

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty three NFL Draft. We'll go around the NFL. Also,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Logerman joining us now, and here we are two

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Speaker 1: weeks out. Logs. What's up, man, I'm a little confused.

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Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't get the mushroom thing. It's a

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Speaker 1: what it's a what is this reference to? You never

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Speaker 1: played a Nintendo, did you? Mario Brothers? There's a I

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Speaker 1: think there's a movie out now right. I mean I

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Speaker 1: remember watching my son play the Mario Kart so and

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Speaker 1: is that something that's like in the game the mushrooms

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Speaker 1: and the Princess. It's been a while, but yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, explain yourself, Joe. I don't think he you

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Speaker 1: know what, I would have bet all the money in

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Speaker 1: the world you would have got it, and he wouldn't.

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Speaker 1: Because we had a discussion earlier about Jeremy Renner and

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Speaker 1: he has no idea. He claims he has no idea

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Speaker 1: who the Avengers are. I don't watch that stuff, but

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Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, I don't. You don't know, as I've

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Speaker 1: never heard of that guy. Okay, yeah, all right, yeah

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Speaker 1: you're not. You're not with the pop called I can

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Speaker 1: tell you, right, yeah, let me tell you. He said,

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Speaker 1: I gotta get out more. I'm like, why do I

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Speaker 1: really have to? I don't think. No, you don't have to.

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Speaker 1: But you know, i'd probably be good for you. What

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Speaker 1: it Yeah, I don't know if it would. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: might be make them good sheltered, that's fine. Two weeks away.

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Speaker 1: Where a week inside a week now from the start

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Speaker 1: of the off season program. How about that? So Phase

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Speaker 1: one Strength and conditioning starts officially April seventeenth, that's Monday.

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Speaker 1: Players will come in they'll do some physicals. It's volunteery.

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Speaker 1: If they show up, they can do all that. They

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Speaker 1: can start the strength and conditioning and and here we go.

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Speaker 1: It's here. Well, to let me just say this, it's

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Speaker 1: not like the players have been just hanging out at

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Speaker 1: home and eating cheetos and their underwear on the couch,

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Speaker 1: watching commercials and cartoon reruns. I mean the Avengers, Yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: they have been. For the most part, all of these

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Speaker 1: guys are working out. And I'm talking when I say

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Speaker 1: working out, they're hardcore working out. I mean the biggest

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Speaker 1: games that you make for the most part as a player,

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Speaker 1: physically happen from the time the season concludes, which you know,

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Speaker 1: can the middle of January, can be first part of February,

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Speaker 1: but that February through April window is really when you

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Speaker 1: can get some really really good work in. When I

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Speaker 1: say good work as far as like strength, building stuff,

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Speaker 1: once you kind of get into the football side of things,

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Speaker 1: you don't you're not going to make as many games

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Speaker 1: because you're dedicating a lot of your energy towards practice

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Speaker 1: and the techniques of playing the game. You can still

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Speaker 1: after the hardcore strength and conditioning stuff in that February

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Speaker 1: most of these guys nowadays, they don't quit when the

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Speaker 1: season ends. They might take a week or so and

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Speaker 1: after that they're they're for the most part working with

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Speaker 1: Of course, a couple weeks for phase one that's strength conditioning,

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Speaker 1: on field stuff, but nothing against a defender or anything

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Speaker 1: like that. And then Phase three OTAs that starts May

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Speaker 1: and I like the way that the collective bargaining agreement

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Speaker 1: right back at it again in July. It's thirteen total

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Speaker 1: And because when one coach does it and other teams

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Speaker 1: want to say groaning, but are a little bit maybe

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Speaker 1: and it's uh, it's good to have the OTA stuff.

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Speaker 1: I love it. And the Tom Coughlin rule is also

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Speaker 1: than what it was designed to start. Feel like, there's

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Speaker 1: a few Tom Coughlin rules. That's the big one. There's

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Speaker 1: and then you had your mini camps. Well, Tom exhausted

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Speaker 1: I think five or six days prior to the mandatory

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Speaker 1: had to come in after that season and then say

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Speaker 1: So that I call that to Tom Coughlin, the loophole.

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Speaker 1: They closed it up in a hurry, close it up, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: do you buy the any chemistry that's built in the

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Speaker 1: offseason program? Can that carry over? Yeah? Absolutely. I Mean

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Speaker 1: You kind of get to understand some of the body

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Speaker 1: language just with a look on a face. Sometimes between

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver and a quarterback. If Christian Kirk is

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Speaker 1: Trevor gives him one particular kind of look, Christian's gonna

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Speaker 1: and that's the I think Doug Peterson a few people

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Speaker 1: talked about it at the end of the season. The

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Speaker 1: next step for this offense is those little nuances and

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Speaker 1: taking the next step, and that's exactly where it built. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just like that. I mean, you know, for example, let's

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Speaker 1: of just gives him a wink, and Christian knows what

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Speaker 1: Now you're working on more stuff. It's like one of

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Speaker 1: those meme winks where it's like, yeah, hey, I'm throwing

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Speaker 1: The time that they can spend together this offseason, the more,

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Speaker 1: because if you can spend time running the routes, now

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Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley can understand how Trevor wants the routes run,

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Speaker 1: the ball placement, I mean things things like that. You know,

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Speaker 1: Jaguars at number twenty four in the first round of

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Speaker 1: the draft on I think NFL Network and there's all

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Speaker 1: kind of entertainment throughout the evening. Head coach Doug Peterson's

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Speaker 1: schedule to make an appearance on stage before the pick

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be fun night lugs. Well, the good thing

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, two weeks to the NFL Draft JP Shadrick,

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Speaker 1: right place, right time, and that did happen plenty in

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Speaker 1: immanual Forbes take. But he's feisty, he never backs down

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Speaker 1: and ensure in run defense, you'd say, hey, I wish

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Speaker 1: he had a little bit more strength, But it's not

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Speaker 1: like a lack of willingness for him when it comes

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Speaker 1: to making those plays on the ball, or at least

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Speaker 1: being around the ball, and you've got to get him

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Speaker 1: up into the at least mid seven. He's try to

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Speaker 1: get up into one eighty range, because that's really what

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Speaker 1: it feels like he's gonna need to survive. You can't

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Speaker 1: really play this guy on the outside against press coverage

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Speaker 1: because these NFL receivers they're just too big and too fast.

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Speaker 1: I'm afraid he's just gonna get bullied at the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage and at the catchpoint, and that's going to

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Speaker 1: neutralize a lot of good things that he brings to

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Speaker 1: the table. He's really athletic, dude. His recovery speed is

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Speaker 1: some of the best in this class, and he's got

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Speaker 1: the longer arms to really be able to affect those

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Speaker 1: catchpoints and get forcing completions. So there's good things about Forbes,

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Speaker 1: But to your point, there's no doubt about it. The

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Speaker 1: weight is an issue, and I do think we got

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Speaker 1: to get that up a little bit if he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be able to achieve what he wants to at the

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Speaker 1: NFL level. And there's a lot of philosophies when it

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Speaker 1: comes to kind of putting your plan together as far

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Speaker 1: as drafting, and one of the plans that most teams

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Speaker 1: may take because the corner class is deep, they may

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Speaker 1: choose to wait and try to get one later. On

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Speaker 1: offensive line, the big guys are always kind of few

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Speaker 1: and far between. How does the offensive line class look

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Speaker 1: for a Jaguar possibility of them picking one there at

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Speaker 1: twenty four, Yeah, I think that this is certainly if

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Speaker 1: they want an offensive tackle, there is a decent chance

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Speaker 1: that they could get a good one there in the

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Speaker 1: mid twenties. Because for a long time we've been talking

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Speaker 1: about these big three with offensive tackle Peter Scronsky, Paris

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Speaker 1: Johnson Junior, and Roderick Jones. I would expand it to

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Speaker 1: a big five. I really think that you could throw

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Speaker 1: Darnell Right in there, and you can throw Anton Harrison

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Speaker 1: in there as well. Both of those players talented enough

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Speaker 1: to be early starters in the NFL. They both got experienced,

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Speaker 1: are both battle tested, and I think that that creates

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Speaker 1: a big five of offensive tackles that we could all

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Speaker 1: see go in the first round and maybe there'll be

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Speaker 1: a super early run like we saw a couple of

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Speaker 1: years ago with the Jedrick Wills and Andrew Thomas, Tristan

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Speaker 1: worrisom Kay Beckton class. But there's still a chance, and

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Speaker 1: I think one of those guys could be available for

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Speaker 1: the Jags. So you're losing Juan Taylor, you might want

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Speaker 1: to replace him. I know they got Walker a little bit.

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Speaker 1: If you want to get some more offensive tackle talent

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Speaker 1: in there, they could definitely hit that in the first round.

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Speaker 1: I think that's possible. If it's down to Darnell Right

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Speaker 1: of Tennessee and Dewan Jones of Ohio State, which way

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Speaker 1: would you lean? Oh Man, I would easily be putting

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Speaker 1: in the card for Darnell Right. He is one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite players in this class. I've got him as

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Speaker 1: the second rated offensive tackle in this class, so he's OT.

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Speaker 1: Two on my board. I just feel like he's a

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Speaker 1: five star recruise. So he's got that athletic background, that

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Speaker 1: high pedigree coming into Tennessee. He was so battle tested

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Speaker 1: this past year against some of the best pass pressers

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Speaker 1: in the SEC Bjojulari, Will Anderson in. The list could

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Speaker 1: go on and on. He is a big, mean offensive

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Speaker 1: tackle who loves to take the fight to the pass

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Speaker 1: rushers that are coming at him. He is the embodiment

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Speaker 1: of the phrase that you hear all the time, the

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Speaker 1: pass protection isn't passive. He'll yeah, get into his kickslide

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Speaker 1: a little bit, but if you're taking a little while,

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Speaker 1: if you're trying to get too many steps to steam

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Speaker 1: to convert that speed to power, he'll stick his arm

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Speaker 1: out and he'll punch you right in the chest and

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Speaker 1: he'll make that you feel him very early and often.

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Speaker 1: So I just feel like his demeanor, his mentality, his anchorability,

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Speaker 1: and also how well he moves his feet when he

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Speaker 1: wants to. He feels like the total package offensive tackle.

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Speaker 1: So I got him at OT. Two in this class.

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Speaker 1: You get him in the twenties. That's the Steel. To me,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Carter is kind of a big question mark in

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Speaker 1: this draft, Trevor, and where do you see him going

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Speaker 1: a little question about his background, but I don't think

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Speaker 1: there's any question about his talent. No on the field again,

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Speaker 1: blue chip player. I mean, there's just not many who

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Speaker 1: can disrupt from the three technique position that he can't

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Speaker 1: that he does. And so when you look at where

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Speaker 1: he's going to go in this draft, he the over

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Speaker 1: right now, over under right now, depending on where you look,

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Speaker 1: it's around six and a half, seven and a half.

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Speaker 1: I think that's right because right before six and a half,

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Speaker 1: you get the Lions sitting at six, you get the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks sitting at five, and just after that you got

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Speaker 1: a handful of teams Atlanta sitting there at eight, certainly

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia sitting there at ten, Chicago at nine, Tennessee at eleven.

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Speaker 1: All of these teams would want a player like Jaleen Carter.

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Speaker 1: So I feel like that range is about correct. You'll

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Speaker 1: say the top twelve no matter what, it feels like

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Speaker 1: a lock unless we learned something else about some off

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Speaker 1: the field things with Jaleen Carter. But as of right now,

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Speaker 1: I would tell you. I still believe he's going to

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Speaker 1: be a top eight pick. I still feel as though

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Speaker 1: one of the Detroit Lions in the Seattle Seahawks at

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Speaker 1: five or six are gonna be who wants to pull

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Speaker 1: the trick on? Boy? Can you imagine Detroit fans having

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Speaker 1: Aidan Hutchinson last year and then Jalen Carter this year?

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Speaker 1: I mean, an outside guy, an inside guy? Holy cow?

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Speaker 1: Will they be happy? Dangerous? Yeah? Yeah, dangerous? And it's

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Speaker 1: not just them either. You gotta lean McNeil on that

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Speaker 1: defensive line. You got James Houston who's going crazy with

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Speaker 1: the sacks last year as well, So that makes one

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Speaker 1: hell of a pass rush group. If they can add

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Speaker 1: Carter to that, no doubt. Not on the schedule next year,

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Speaker 1: are they? I don't think so. It didn't go so

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Speaker 1: well in Detroit. Oh it didn't last year for sure. Hey,

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Speaker 1: Trevor's second went Pro Football Focus. What do you guys

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Speaker 1: have the next couple of weeks leading into the draft.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, we got all sorts of good stuff, of course,

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Speaker 1: the final mock drafts, the final big boards, our final predictions,

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Speaker 1: and as we learn about what we think is going

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Speaker 1: to happen on draft day. We're letting everybody know over

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Speaker 1: at PF dot com and on our podcast show as well,

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Speaker 1: the NFL Stock Exchange podcast. Give him a follow at

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Trey. If you don't, I don't know why

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Speaker 1: you don't. He's a fantastic follow on Twitter. And you

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Speaker 1: guys do a great job at Pro Football Focus. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for the time, Trevor. Appreciate it, guys anytime Trevor sec

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Speaker 1: p f F joining us getting ready for the draft.

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Speaker 1: And that's a good visit right there. Well, first of all,

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Speaker 1: he's you can tell that he studied and he pays

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Speaker 1: attention and he follows everything. But but most importantly PFF's

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Speaker 1: website is I was telling you earlier when when I

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Speaker 1: watch college film on one particular guy, for example of

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Speaker 1: watching Hendon Hooker and they're playing the Alabama and so

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Speaker 1: I said, okay, let me see who is all in

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Speaker 1: Alabama the draft bull grades, and so you pull up

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Speaker 1: the guys on defense and with PF and actually go

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Speaker 1: to the school and say, okay, Alabama, and it will

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Speaker 1: list exactly every draftable guy and where their ranking is

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Speaker 1: on the draft and the position and the breakdown. So

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Speaker 1: when I watched the film and of course with Alabama,

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Speaker 1: it's kind of ridiculous JP when you watch their defense,

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Speaker 1: there's like a guy that all have a draftable grade

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Speaker 1: next year, the rest of them. But PFF's got a great,

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Speaker 1: great website. Their draft analysis stuff is really nice for

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Speaker 1: reference stuff. You can pick best available player, all positions,

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Speaker 1: you can narrow it down to single positions. They got

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Speaker 1: a really user friendly website if people are interested in

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Speaker 1: checking it out and being kind of a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a draftnick, I strongly recommend PFS website. I strongly

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Speaker 1: recommend Daily's Place dot com. It's where you can get

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Speaker 1: tickets and a full list of shows coming up, and

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Speaker 1: been grinding in the film room. It sounds like cornerbacks.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into which defensive back could be best. That's

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Speaker 1: next on Jaguars Happy Hour, the station that the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: listened to ten ten XL, home of the Jecksonville Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: I can see my I see my name in it.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's funny. I'm over there. Look at my

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Speaker 1: name is right down. Love that. I really love that.

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Speaker 1: I've seen that from the room. Really is here about

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Speaker 1: That is Calvin and Ridley on the Hunts, Available now

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Speaker 1: on the Jaguars YouTube page and Jaguars dot com. Episode

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Speaker 1: one of the off season is up, and it's a

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Speaker 1: thirteen minutes or so really in depth at the NFL

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Speaker 1: scouting combine with GM Trent ball key head coach Doug

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Speaker 1: Peterson and the process of getting the offseason started, including

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Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley being reinstated and arriving in Jacksonville, and as

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Speaker 1: you heard, seeing his name on the video board for

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Speaker 1: the first time really got to him. He said, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna send a picture to his Mom's pretty cool. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. And he's already jumped right on the

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Speaker 1: number zero. He was I think the first one in

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Speaker 1: the league, like when the rule changed like ten minutes later.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars social media, by the way, congratulations to them really

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Speaker 1: putting it all together the digital side. Everybody made it work,

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Speaker 1: and he was the first one boom, he's out number zero.

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Speaker 1: The equipment guy should have put it out the bid side, Kitty.

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Speaker 1: I guarantee you they would have raised a lot of

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Speaker 1: good money for charity. If Jay said, okay, guys, number

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Speaker 1: proceeds are gonna go to the Jaguars Foundation. Oh yeah, see,

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Speaker 1: that would have been a great idea. I thought you

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Speaker 1: were insinuating that the equipment staff is going to keep

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Speaker 1: it all to the Jags equipment fifty raffle like the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Foundation does on game day. Those fifty percent go

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Speaker 1: to the guys in the equipment room. Fifty percent. That's

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Speaker 1: how it will work. Okay, Yeah, I'm trying to help

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Speaker 1: the guys out of equippal or maybe he maybe maybe

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Speaker 1: Calvin was like, here's the money, I'm doing it. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I mean they should have put

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Speaker 1: it out for a bit. Excited to hear from Calvin Ridley,

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Speaker 1: By the way, we haven't excited to see him. Bucky

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Speaker 1: Brooks had the conversation with him when he arrived, and

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Speaker 1: he has not spoken with the media yet here in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: I think they're expected to have some media time, maybe

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Speaker 1: next week, And I think Calvin might be one of

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Speaker 1: those guys. Oh, I'm sure he will, and and I'm

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Speaker 1: sure he's excited to get back to work and kind

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Speaker 1: And he's been a top level player. He's a number

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Speaker 1: one type wide receiver. And with the Jaguars current wide

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Speaker 1: receiving corps and the tight end, I mean, look, this

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Speaker 1: could be a great situation and Trevor would have a

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Speaker 1: whole array of weapons to choose from, and that's exactly

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Speaker 1: what you want for a young talented quarterback. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: trivia for you. Luck see if you're good at NFL history.

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Speaker 1: Offensive history. Okay, the last NFL team with three offensive

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Speaker 1: players over one thousand receiving yards, that's a great question.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, two thousand and eight Arizona Hardnals, Larry,

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Speaker 1: that's right, and they were the fifth all time to

644
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Speaker 1: do it. There's only been five, the did the Redskins

645
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Speaker 1: when they had the fun bunch to it? Nineteen eighty nine,

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Speaker 1: I thought, and the Cardinals. And I'm trying to think

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Speaker 1: who the other wide receivers were of Larry Fitzgerald and

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Speaker 1: k Steve Breston had just over a thousand yards Prestons.

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Speaker 1: Who are the other teams? Nineteen eighty San Diego Kellen Winslow,

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Speaker 1: John Jefferson, Charlie Jones was actually a tight end and

651
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Speaker 1: two wide rest So I said three offensive options eighty

652
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Speaker 1: nine Washington, Art Monk, Ricky Sanders, Gary Clark, ninety five Atlanta,

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00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: Eric Metcalfe, Terrence Mathis, BERTA. Manuel And that was Jerry Glanville.

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Speaker 1: And what did they call that? There was the No,

655
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Speaker 1: it was June Jones. What did they call that offense?

656
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: It was the running gun. I don't remember it was.

657
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: They had a name for that type of all fence,

658
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Speaker 1: but I can't remember what it was called. Oh four

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Speaker 1: Indy Marvin Harrison, Redgyu, Wayne Brandon Stokely Stokely, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll see if the Jags can enter. Yeah. Well, no, look,

661
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: it's all about the wins. It's not about having three

662
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Speaker 1: guys in a thousand yards and so if you win everything,

663
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: everybody's happy. You could run the ball seven million times.

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Speaker 1: Who cares win? Did any of those teams win the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl? The d eighty eighty nine Redskins win the

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00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 1: Super Bowl? That was that one of their three might

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Speaker 1: might have been? Might have been I don't remember running. Shoot,

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Speaker 1: it was a running no, No, that was I can't

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Speaker 1: remember what either way. All right, Hey, let's transition out

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Speaker 1: on Jaguars Happy how or tintn X, l AM, Jaguars

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Speaker 1: dot Com, jag Social Media, JP, Shadrick, Jeff Lagerman. It's

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Speaker 1: draft time or two weeks away, and we're doing a

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Speaker 1: week by week positional breakdown. Last week it was the

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks logs. This week we're going to defense. We talked

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Speaker 1: a little with Trevor Sikima a moment ago of Pro

676
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Speaker 1: Football focus about the cornerback position. It's a position of

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00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: need for the Jags, it really is. And watching these

678
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: guys because everybody's saying that that's one of the deepest

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Speaker 1: drafts that there has been in recent memory when it

680
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Speaker 1: comes to that position, cornerback. The two guys at the top,

681
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Speaker 1: I think you can put him one two and flip

682
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,439
Speaker 1: him and go to one. It doesn't matter. These guys

683
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: are really good. And it's Witherspoon from Illinois, who is

684
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: a little bit smaller player, but this guy, love him.

685
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: Plays hard, he plays the nickel extremely well. He's an

686
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Speaker 1: excellent blitzer. He's physical, he is controlled violence, and he

687
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Speaker 1: also can make plays on the ball. And this is

688
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: a guy that I think changes the culture just because

689
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Speaker 1: of the way he plays the game. Love him. The

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00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: other one right there at the top with him is

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Speaker 1: Christian Gonzalez. Gonzalez from Oregon, and he's very young player

692
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Speaker 1: now he's twenty years old, but he's got the height,

693
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Speaker 1: he's got the size, he's got the hips, he is fluid,

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Speaker 1: he's got excellent ball skills. This guy can play man.

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00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: I think he can even get better with some of

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Speaker 1: his press coverage. But this guy can play. If there

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Speaker 1: was one of those two that I had to pick

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Speaker 1: with the more upside, I would probably pick Gonzalez just

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Speaker 1: because he's younger, he's got the natural hips, and I

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00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: think he's got better shut down ability. But Witherspoon is

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Speaker 1: just such a dynamite package of energy. I think he's

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Speaker 1: right there at the top, and he's one of those

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Speaker 1: guys that you be willing to bet on just because

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Speaker 1: he's kind of a can't miss prospect. The next guy

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Speaker 1: that I would put on that list has a famous

706
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: last name. He certainly does NFL bloodlines for Joey Porter Junior. Hey,

707
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: guess what. He's the son of Joey Porter Senior, who

708
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: was a really good football player for the Pittsburgh stage,

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Speaker 1: but he didn't play corner. No, okay, far from it.

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Speaker 1: Porter is interesting, Nitney Lyon. He is very long. He's

711
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: a six three ish guy. He doesn't have what I

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Speaker 1: would call quick change of direction. He's more of a

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00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: law He'd plays excellent press coverage. I don't think there's

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Speaker 1: anybody in the draft that's better at getting up in

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Speaker 1: a receiver's face and playing press coverage man than Porter.

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00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 1: He's outstanding from that aspect. But there are some areas

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Speaker 1: that he could probably work on and be a little

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00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,399
Speaker 1: bit better at. One of them is the physical nature

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00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: of the game. He does miss some tackles. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: have that short area quickness, and sometimes in zone coverage

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00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: he's not quick enough to react. But the man coverage

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Speaker 1: is where he really excels, and he's got the height

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Speaker 1: he's got the length, he's got the speed. He can

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Speaker 1: make plays on the ball, but his ball skills are

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00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: not that of Gonzales, I don't think. But nonetheless, this

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00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: is a guy that was raised in an NFL home sentially,

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Speaker 1: so I think he's going to also have the mindset

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Speaker 1: to be able to handle the NFL. Now, the next

729
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: guy is a little different, and that's Deontay Banks at Maryland.

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Speaker 1: This is a guy that's real physical, and I think

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Speaker 1: he's got to learn to tone it down a little

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00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: bit because sometimes he's a little bit overly physical. But

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Speaker 1: he does a really good job of marrying guys. I

734
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 1: think he's a nice combination of a guy that could

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Speaker 1: play some man in some zone. What do you mean

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Speaker 1: overly physical? Why is that bad? Well, in the NFL,

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00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,919
Speaker 1: they'll call a lot of flags. In college they don't,

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Speaker 1: They don't call quite as much. In my opinion, in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, he's going to get a lot of interference

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00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: calls of the way he plays the game because he's

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Speaker 1: a hands on type of defensive back and that works

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Speaker 1: to an extent, but you can't rely on that, and

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00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: I think he's a little bit too much. But he's

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00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 1: still an excellent prospect. I think he's a dynamite player

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00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: and he's physical, but he's not of the caliber of

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Speaker 1: Witherspoon from Illinois. Witherspoon from Illinois is like on a

747
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: whole other level of physicality and his ability to blitz

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00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: and uh. But but I like him. I think he's

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00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: gonna be a really high quality player in this league.

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Speaker 1: The next guy is camp Smith, who happened to be

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Speaker 1: in for a visit with the Jaguars this week report

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00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: South Carolina. Guy. Uh kind of got all the measurables.

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00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: He's uh physical, he's fast. You know, most of these cornerbacks.

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00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: If you're not running for for you're not playing corner anymore.

755
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: You're gonna be playing safety. But he's got all of

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00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: the measurables. He's got the broad jump, he's got the

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00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:42,720
Speaker 1: numbers from interceptions, and I think he's just a good, solid,

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00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 1: safe prospect. Does he have great ball skills He's got

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00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: He's got really good ball skills. He's kind of got

760
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: one of those. If you had to say, what's the

761
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: great thing that he does, I would just say, across

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00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: the board, in every category, this guy does well. I

763
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: don't think he is exceptional in anyone Cat Gore, you know,

764
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: I like with Porter, it's the bump. With Witherspoon, it's

765
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 1: the ball skills, the hips with excuse me, that's Gonzalez.

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00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: With Witherspoon, it's the physical nature of the game. But

767
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: I really like the way that camp Smith plays the game.

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Speaker 1: And then the last guy that I'll mention here is

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Speaker 1: he's a teeny guy. I'm going ago this the size

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Speaker 1: of Emmanuel Forbes of Mississippi State. He might be. Now,

771
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: I'll go all so far as say that he's got

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Speaker 1: the best ball skills I think of any cornerback in

773
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Speaker 1: the draft. Six career interceptions returned for a touchdown at

774
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Speaker 1: Mississippi State. That's an FBS career record. This guy, I'm

775
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: just telling you, he's like a little gnat that can

776
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: flat out fly. I mean, he's he probably and they

777
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: report him at like one sixty six, and Trevor earlier

778
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: was talking about one seventy. Maybe you guys were talking

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Speaker 1: about that one seventy number. I don't think he's at

780
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Speaker 1: one seventy. I mean he is. I mean, he's pencil thin.

781
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: He ran a four three five forty at the combine.

782
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,959
Speaker 1: He can roll. Yeah, Okay, he can play man, He's

783
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: got excellent ball skills once he gets his hands on it.

784
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he is an offensive weapon. Does I know.

785
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,919
Speaker 1: I didn't even looked at his film, and I don't

786
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: know if he does run ze return punts. I mean,

787
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: this is a guy that when he intercepts the ball,

788
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: this is a hold your breath guy, kind of like

789
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 1: Dion Sanders when he's got his hands on the ball,

790
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: because he could do things with it. But he's an

791
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: excellent player. Can he get a little bit bigger And

792
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: everybody always likes to forecast and say, yeah, he can

793
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: put on a few pounds, be a little bit more physical,

794
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: but look if if he can still play at a

795
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: high level one hundred and seventy pounds, I mean, that'll

796
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: be fine. You know a lot of times they don't

797
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 1: expect corners to be like Witherspoon and be blitzing off

798
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: the edge and hammering guys in the backfield. But I

799
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: like Emmanuel Forbes, and I think the team that gets

800
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: him is going to be incredibly happy, and they're going

801
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: to be amazed at some of the things that he

802
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 1: can do as far as attacking the ball. Because the

803
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: guys that make plays on the ball. Those are the

804
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: guys that change the game. We'll see if the Jaguars

805
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: are in play at twenty four at quarter a cornerback

806
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: excuse me, not quarter back, corner defensive defensive back for

807
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: the Jags twenty fourth overall, we'll see what happens two

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00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:28,040
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Speaker 1: Welcome back Jaguars Happy Hour. If you're watching us on

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Speaker 1: thank you first of all, and it's a live look

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00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: outside at the Miller Electric Center construction project. We are

820
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: closing in on the June thirtieth candying over the keys

821
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: to the Jags, the grading and the everything in the

822
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 1: field looks like it's underway, and next up will be grass,

823
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: and then the building will be finished, and then the

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00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 1: Jags will move in there and they'll have training camp there.

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00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: I did notice that they're hanging dry wall, so that's

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00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: that's a good thing. They're they're moving right along. By

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Speaker 1: the way, the off season program and OTA practices will

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Speaker 1: be held on the game field and inside the stadium,

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Speaker 1: as they were last year. Obviously when this was under construction.

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Speaker 1: The practice fields will not be ready yet for the

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Speaker 1: offseason program. They were told we'll be ready for training

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Speaker 1: camp in July. I wonder how they're gonna do that.

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Speaker 1: Will they seat it, will they bring in roles of

834
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Speaker 1: grass sod. My guess is they'll probably guess the roles

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Speaker 1: yabably roll it. Yeah, and it's gonna be as I

836
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: understood it when I was out there the other week.

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Speaker 1: A completely flat surface, no crowns well, great drainage right,

838
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: They've got built in drainage underneath allows them to not

839
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Speaker 1: have a crown. Which years ago, the best, the best

840
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: field I ever played on was in Baltimore, and it

841
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: was a hybrid natural grass that was mixed with artificial

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00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 1: and they had a great drainage system. The stadium itself

843
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: was in total disrepair because it was when stadium, yeah

844
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Speaker 1: Cleveland left of Cleveland, or the Ravens left Cleveland, Cleveland

845
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 1: came to Baltimore, and so while the new stadium was

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00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: being built, there playing a memorial. But the plane surface

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Speaker 1: itself was the best I ever played on in my

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Speaker 1: entire career. It was unbelievable, was flat, great drainage, it

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Speaker 1: was fast, it had great traction, and I don't I

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Speaker 1: don't know exactly what that surface was called, but it

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00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 1: was the best I ever played on. About that, whereas

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Speaker 1: a lot of the fields that played on earlier in

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00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: the career, they had that noticeable crown. And as a

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Speaker 1: defensive end, a lot of times you felt like you

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00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: were running uphill because literally were you were, you know,

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00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 1: to some extent. And Tampa had a field at the

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00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: old ballfield that day what was it called back then

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Speaker 1: you're talking about the sombrero sombrero, and then even the

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00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: sombrero was like a huge crown because you know, all

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00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: the Florida rains and I guess they didn't have the

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00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 1: built in system to be able to handle the drainage.

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00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,760
Speaker 1: So this has it and they can, you know, change

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Speaker 1: the orientation of the fields and keep the grass growing

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00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: and fresh all that stuff. Yeah, rotation, don't get the

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00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: same ruts in the same spot. A lot of great

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Speaker 1: men and women doing work over there on the construction

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Speaker 1: project too, And the finish line is in sight for sure.

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Speaker 1: Let's go around the NFL and a report from Sportco

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00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: today that Dan Snyder has apparently reached an agreement and

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00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: principle to sell the Commanders for six billion dollars to

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00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: a group led by Philadelphia seventy six Ers owner Josh Harris,

872
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: billionaire Mitchell Rails, and former Lakers star Magic Johnson. It

873
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: would be the highest price ever paid for a sports team,

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00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,919
Speaker 1: overtaking the four point six billion dollars that was paid

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00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: for the Broncos last year. If you look at price comparison,

876
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: the Walmart family did a lot better than this little

877
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 1: purchase here in Washington because Denver has a great stadium situation.

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00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:49,720
Speaker 1: The Washington Commanders still have to figure out the stadium

879
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: situation moving forward in the future. Many people expected Jeff Bezos,

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00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 1: the founder and owner of Amazon, to get involved with

881
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 1: the bidding process, and reports are now that he will

882
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: not be in the process at all. So I think

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00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,240
Speaker 1: Daniel Snyder was hoping maybe that he would get involved

884
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: here towards the end it would push the price up

885
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: even higher. But there's a lot of money to pay

886
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: for an NFL franchise. But here's the reality. The values

887
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: just keep going up. Yeah, quickly, really quick. Think about that.

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00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: The Denver Broncos has been a great franchise, you know,

889
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: and look, Washington has a herited franchise. It's one of

890
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: the original football teams. And but the Denver Broncos have

891
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 1: a lot of familiarity with their stadium, the fan bases, there,

892
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: the positivity, and with Daniel Snyder, there's not a lot

893
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: of positivity that surrounds the Washington franchise. So there's going

894
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: to be a lot of change in Washington as things

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00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: move forward with new ownership, and hopefully it happens, because

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00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: if the sale doesn't happen, there's a problem because Daniel

897
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: Snyder is not well liked by his peers in the

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00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 1: National Football League right now, and I think most of

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00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: the ownership in the National Football League is quietly wishing

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00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: that he would sell the team today. Lamar Jackson, News

901
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 1: ravens Cem, Eric da Costas said that quote Lamar's and

902
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: our plans and our feelings about Lamar are not changed

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00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: one bit since the end of the season. That was

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00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: in quote at the Odell Beckham press conference. Or Beckham

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00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 1: said that today the goal was to come here and

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00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: have that possibility to play with him. There were no

907
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 1: promises made of that happening, he said. O'Dell said, but

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00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: that's not really new news. There's just a new soundbiter. Two.

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00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: That's it. Well, credit to the Ravens first off that

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00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 1: they had this press conference to announce the signing of

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00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Jr. But they make their head coach and

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00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 1: general manager of available for all questions, which is the

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00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 1: classy way to go about business in Baltimore or in

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Speaker 1: any if any NFL franchise wants to take a lesson,

915
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: and the right way to do things is to allow

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00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 1: the media to ask questions of OBJ but then also

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00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 1: of Eric da Costa and Harball about the situation with

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. So credit to the Ravens organization in ownerships

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00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 1: because that's that's where it starts. And still no new

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Speaker 1: news on the Packers, Jets Aaron Rodgers situation. You can

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Speaker 1: tune into any other outlets of the circus. Yeah. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: I wish that they would just get that resolve. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it feels like that's after the draft, like they want

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00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: to wait until that first rounds over and then they

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Speaker 1: don't trade this year's first round. I just wish it

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Speaker 1: would It would be better for the league if that

927
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Speaker 1: whole mystery was settled and done and Rogers is going

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Speaker 1: to the Jets and they got the draft pick that

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Speaker 1: they wanted in Green Bay, I mean, and let the

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00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: league move on and they got a schedule to put

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Speaker 1: together guys. So that's another important thing. It's coming up soon.

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Speaker 1: Um out next week, out next week, we'll see it

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Speaker 1: Draft night, they got it looking forward to us. That's

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Speaker 1: two weeks tonight. That's Jeff Logaman. I'm JP Shadrick. Thanks

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Speaker 1: to our entire crew, Thanks for Trevor Sickam, a Pro

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Speaker 1: Football Focus, for joining us, and thank you for listening

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Speaker 1: and watching US Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.