1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis and 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show starts now. I hope you all had 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: a very RESTful Labor Day weekend. We are now in 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: the sprint phase, headed to the very end. Here to 6 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: a finish line of the midterm election breakdown. The latest 7 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: for you all on this. How is it looking the 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: key races, key states, plus a big win for Team 9 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: Trump with regard to the Maralago raid and in this case, 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: the appointment of a special Master by a federal judge. 11 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: We will discuss that why it's a big deal. Friend 12 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: Annie McCarthy will actually be with us talk a bit 13 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: about why it's a big win for Trump. Also, Molly Hemingway, 14 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: who is the editor of The Federalist, she'll be joining 15 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: talk about mid terms and Biden so much more. Biden 16 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: was in Milwaukee over the weekend and saying all kinds 17 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: of stuff. We will certainly be breaking that down as well. 18 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: I want to begin with this. You know, Clay, I 19 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: was in California over the weekend. I was there for 20 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: a wedding and my general theory about all this is 21 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: California is a fantastic state that is being ruined by Libs. 22 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: The Commies have overrun the government there and also just 23 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: the system I mean, I mean local government, I mean 24 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: the teachers unions or everything there. Right, the Democrat power 25 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: apparatus in California is destroying the state and by the 26 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 1: time even Californians really recognize that it will be too late. 27 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: There were multiple warnings over the weekend telling people in 28 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: California to avoid using too much electricity at certain times 29 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: because that might cause blackouts, which is something we generally 30 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: expect in the Third world. And I think everyone's realizing 31 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: we are heading for some major energy catastrophes ahead here 32 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: in this country. In Europe, a lot to breakdown here. 33 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: I want to remind everybody that Joe Biden said back 34 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: during when he was running for president, or back in March. 35 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Yeah, in March of twenty twenty debating Bertie Sanders, 36 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: no more drilling on federal land, no more subsidies for 37 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: phospiphili industry, no more drilling on federal lands, no more drilling, 38 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: including offshore, no ability for the oil industry to continue 39 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: to drill, period. Yeah, that's when he was saying when 40 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: he wanted to get the Libs to elect him, and 41 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 1: people forgot what the price of energy actually means. Clay. 42 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: The Biden administration, according to the Wall Street Journal, has 43 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: leased fewer acres for oil and gas drilling than any 44 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: administration since basically we were drilling for oil in the 45 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: first place. You got to go back to like the 46 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: World War two era for this. The energy prices, the 47 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: natural gas prices have tripled. This is an economic crisis 48 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: caused by Democrat lunacy. Yeah, and buckets intentional. And I'm 49 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: glad you brought that up, because the numbers on this 50 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: are staggering. I was reading it this morning. President Biden's 51 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 1: Interior Department least one hundred and twenty six thousand acres 52 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: for drilling in its first nineteen months in office. That's 53 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: the lowest since Richard Nixon in nineteen sixty nine, nineteen seventy. 54 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: Do you know what Nixon leased out four point four 55 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: million acres. So it's not only that Biden is doing 56 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: this at this kind of level, it's that it's truly 57 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: unprecedented what he is doing and what this does. Obviously, 58 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: and we got a lot of people access all over 59 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: the oil and gas industry who are listening to us 60 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: will be down in Austin doing the show live on 61 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: Thursday and Friday, interacting with a lot of those people. 62 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: What that's doing, Buck, is it's handcuffing us, not only 63 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: right now, but in particular in the years ahead, because 64 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: it takes years to get all of these oil and 65 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: gas wells up and running, and so what he's doing 66 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: is not only hamstringing the current industry, but potentially these 67 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: issues are going to become even more paramount in the 68 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: years ahead after he's out of office. With so many 69 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: policy issues, we see a pattern repeating. I think on 70 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: energy it's one of the most clear, but it's true. 71 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: On crime, it's true, on the border, inflation, government spending, 72 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: they do stuff. Clay, the Democrats promise to do certain things. 73 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:40,679 Speaker 1: Bind administration by regime comes in effectively saying Joe Biden 74 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: tells everybody that he hates fossil fuels, that it's destroying 75 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: the planet, that we need to act urgently on climate change. 76 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: Remember Barack Obama gave a speech I think it was 77 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: at the Coastguard Academy saying the biggest national security threat 78 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: the United States faces is climate change. That's when he's 79 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: commander in chief. It is a quote eggs essential threat. 80 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a mass hysteria. This is a 81 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: lunacy that the Democrat Party has has adopted, and they 82 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: do this. The price of gas is obviously still very high. 83 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: I would see in over five dollars a gallon. I 84 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: believe that I was out in California. The price of 85 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,559 Speaker 1: natural gas has tripled in the last year, which doesn't 86 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: affect people as much right now in this country. Wait 87 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: until things get cold. That's the number one way that 88 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: people heat their homes. And the Democrats turned around and say, 89 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: what do you mean we don't we don't have a 90 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: problem with fossil fuels. Yeah, the gas is okay. Biden's letting, 91 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: letting leases go for Explorer. They are so full of it. 92 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: They just don't want to be held accountable. They know 93 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: right now people are seeing and feeling in terms of 94 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: the economic impact these idiotic policies when it comes to energy. 95 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: So what are they doing. They're not They're not saying, 96 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: you know, oh we're gonna we're gonna change course, or 97 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: oh we're wrong. They're just saying, oh, there's no connection, man, 98 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: We're fine. We like fossil fuel. They're lying to everybody 99 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: right when they know there could be political consequences for 100 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: the idiocy. Not only that, and you hinted at this, 101 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: the larger context here is this is a global phenomenon 102 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: of pretending that all of us are going to die 103 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: because of climate change and buck every time. I guarantee 104 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: you if you turned on the news in California, it's 105 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: hot in California, what do they blame it on climate change? 106 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: If the electric grid collapses and people are not able 107 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: to have electricity, what are they going to blame it 108 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: on climate change? They're not going to accept the reality, 109 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: which is their Green New Deal future doesn't provide enough 110 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: sustainable energy to be able to power our needs right now. 111 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: And so this idea of we're gonna have to get 112 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: used to rolling blackouts, We're gonna have to eat bugs. 113 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: They are using all of this, and it might sound crazy, 114 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: but this is what they're slowly introducing into the American discussion. 115 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: They're using all of this as an excuse because they 116 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: will not maximize oil and gas production in this country. 117 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: There's no need for there to ever be a blackout 118 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: anywhere in the United States. That's based on inability to 119 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: serve supply, and that's what's going to happen. And today 120 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: in California, where it's going to be super hot, suddenly 121 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: they need to have some rolling blackouts. They'll say this 122 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: is a result of climate change, when the reality is 123 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: that's not true. Just like they're trying to argue that, oh, 124 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: all this learning loss that happened in schools as a 125 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: result of COVID. No, no, no, it's the policy choices 126 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: that we as a country are making that are causing 127 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: these issues, not climate change or COVID or whatever it 128 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: might be. It's poor leadership and poor judgment. And this 129 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: is where I think there has to be a wake 130 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: up call, not only for any Republicans who don't see 131 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,679 Speaker 1: it this way, but particularly for Independence. If the idea 132 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: is democrats will get their way, they will fail, and 133 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: then they'll figure out how stupid their ideas are. You're 134 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: going to be waiting forever. All they do is double down. 135 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how catastrophic the failures you see these 136 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: Democrats on climate. To your point, they're going to say 137 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: that the very problem causing the blackouts that are coming 138 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: possibly in California, the problems that are causing the spike 139 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: in gas prices and natural gas prices being through the 140 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: roof right now are climate related in the first place, 141 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: So that only increases the imperative to do more of 142 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: what they've already done so we can bring down climate change, 143 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: which is completely insane. You know, this is like pouring 144 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: cups of water in the ocean and hoping to change 145 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: the temperature. They're out of their minds, but they don't 146 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: want to admit. Just like with Mask and Clay, there 147 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: were people all over this plane from Elliott in New York, 148 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: obviously Mask over the weekend. They don't want to admit 149 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: that they're crazy on that too, so they just keep 150 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: on doing it. My point here being, you've got to 151 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: stop these people, meaning you have to take power out 152 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: of their hands. You have to hold them accountable. They 153 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: will not self correct. This is what we're seeing with 154 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: Democrats on energy, climate crime, the border. They won't self 155 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: correct because they lie to themselves as well as to 156 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: everybody else about the cause of these problems. Buck, do 157 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: you remember Ross Perot when he ran for president? Of course, yeah, 158 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: every remembers back in ninety two. I was reading this morning, 159 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: and you're one hundred percent right, and we get it 160 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: on energy. I think what we really need is somebody 161 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: who's like a professor to just start buying television time 162 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: and just sit down and lay out all the facts, right, 163 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: I mean, because you have to be able to distill 164 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 1: it into a thirty second or one minute ad. But 165 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: also with the rise of YouTube, I feel like there's 166 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: a mass I'm not kidding about this. I feel like 167 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: there's a massive demand that isn't being filled by American 168 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: politician to discuss big issues in an intelligent and detailed way. 169 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: We know Joe Biden can't do it right, Like Joe 170 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: Biden couldn't whatever you think of his policies, Joe Biden 171 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,239 Speaker 1: couldn't sit down for thirty minutes and have a nuanced 172 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: discussion about oil and gas production and why we need 173 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: more oil and gas production data analysis? Do you know 174 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about? Like, we need an incredible communicator 175 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: in chief who is good. I mean, Fauci was a disaster. 176 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: Who's a great communicator that is in the world of 177 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: politics right now? Because what we do, I mean, I 178 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: think we do a pretty good job on this show, 179 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: but we're not political figures. We're just trying to make 180 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: people smarter on the issue. But there's almost a dearth 181 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 1: of anybody in politics, it seems to me, who can 182 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: talk about a complex issue in a nuanced and intelligent fashion. 183 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: But I don't even think some of these things for 184 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: like thirty minutes or an hour. Yeah, I don't even 185 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: think some of these things are really complicated. I mean, 186 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: I think that it's going to be issue. It depends, 187 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 1: but energy energy can be it can be a complicated issue. 188 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: But there just needs to be clarity the Democrat Party 189 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: and they can just line up the evidence. I mean, 190 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: I agree with you that having a you know, having 191 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 1: people that put the case out in a way that 192 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: they're almost like prosecuting the Democrat lunacy would be helpful. 193 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: But they're they're ideologically opposed to fossil fuels. Fossil fuels 194 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 1: are getting hit as a result, things are more expensive, 195 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: and now they're turning around and they're lying to everybody 196 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,119 Speaker 1: by saying this has nothing to do with their ideological opposition. 197 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: I mean, look at what's going on right now in Europe. 198 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: There were some people who were who were saying it's 199 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: going to be a massacre, it's going to be a disaster. 200 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: In the beginning of the Russia Ukraine War, We're saying, hey, guys, um, 201 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: you know, Germany is really dependent on Russia for a 202 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: natural gas. So this whole sanctioning Russia and cutting off 203 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: or trying to cut off parts of the Russian economy 204 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: but not the energy sector. This could come back to 205 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: bite those who think that they have all the leverage 206 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: against Russia. You know what Europe has found out economically, 207 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: they don't actually have that much leverage at all against Russia, 208 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: which is why now Emmanuel met Krall, the president of France, 209 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 1: it's calling for a ten percent reduction in France's energy use. 210 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: Germany is just heading off of an energy cliffigat it's 211 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: real cold and Doucldorf in the winter everybody, and they 212 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: are not going to extend their last three nuclear plants. 213 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: Did you see this? Yeah, if anyone was serious about 214 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: energy and the climate, they would be chaining themselves defenses 215 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: saying we need more, not less nuclear power. But ideologically clay, 216 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: they can't get around the reality. So you're going to 217 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:49,719 Speaker 1: have massive economic and social implications. But basically, people freezing 218 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: in Europe in the wintertime because Prudin has just cut them. 219 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,959 Speaker 1: Prudin has just said that sorry, they can't maintain the 220 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: natural gas delivery to Europe they've been doing so the 221 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: Nordstream one pipeline gonna have to turn that one off 222 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: when we come back. We need to talk about this 223 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: because I think it's the most underdiscussed story that could 224 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: have calamitous consequences and spill in a major way into 225 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 1: the United States come the winter. And I understand a 226 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: lot of people are like, Oh, Europe, why do I 227 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: care about what their energy costs are. We need to 228 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: make the case for why this is a monstrous deal 229 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: and why I'm getting increasingly nervous that it's going to 230 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: end up torpedoing the United States as well. And I 231 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: don't think that most people have really contemplated where we 232 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: are headed here. 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As we 259 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: move into the sprint portion of the midterms, about sixty days, 260 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: a little bit over away from the mid term elections, 261 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: and we bring in now Andy McCarthy, who has been 262 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: doing an amazing job breaking down the legality surrounding the 263 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: mar Lago raid. And we've told you on the program, 264 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: we're not going to get overwhelmed by the mar Lago 265 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: raid because we think in many ways it's a political distraction. 266 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: But I am fascinated by the legal maneuvering that is 267 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: going on. So Andy, let's start here. We know that 268 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: a federal District court judge has granted Donald Trump's legal 269 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: team's request to have a special master reviewing all of 270 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: the seized documents from inside mar Lago, and there are 271 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: allegations that those documents we know they initially took the passport, 272 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: but that there may be a lot of medical records, 273 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: maybe tax records that were also seized. Here. What did 274 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: you think of the ruling? What is its significance? A 275 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: couple of big questions here, and as it pertains to 276 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: the Eleventh Circuit, do you expect the Department of Justice 277 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: to appeal? Where are we headed procedurely? In your mind? 278 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: Quite probably? I should answer those less two together, because 279 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: I think that's that really hits the important part. I 280 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: was surprised by the rationale for Judge Cannon's ruling, which 281 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: is that not only does President Trump, as a former president, 282 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: retain some measure of executive privilege, but it can actually 283 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: be she says, potentially exercised against the executive branch itself, 284 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: which is a controversial ruling. I think it was very 285 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: foolish for the Justice Department to proceed with this without 286 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: getting a ruling on that from the court first, because 287 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: that's a controversial area of the law. I think the 288 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: Justice Department may have the better of the argument, but 289 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: when you're in an unsettled area, what you want to 290 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: do is get the court ruling first before you start 291 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: doing stuff based on a potentially bad assumption about the law. 292 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: And that's why I think they really have to go 293 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: to the Eleventh Circuit. I think they'll want to get 294 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: that reversed if they can. Andy it's buck, where do 295 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 1: you see this going. I mean, let's assume for a 296 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: second that it isn't reverse. Take us down that pathway. Well, 297 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: you guys teed this up mentioning the I think, like 298 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 1: just mentioned that we're about sixty days from the mid 299 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: terms and it's a good point Buck to pause and 300 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: remind people that the Justice Department purports to go by 301 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: this sort of guidance that they call the sixty day rule, 302 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: which is really not a rule. It's kind of an 303 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 1: unwritten set of guidelines, but the ideas they're not supposed 304 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 1: to take any big public steps in investigations within a 305 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:04,719 Speaker 1: sixty day window of major elections that could conceive where 306 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: under circumstances where the law enforcement action could influence the 307 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 1: outcome of the election. So I have a feeling that 308 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: other than necessary things like if you're going to appeal 309 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: to the Eleventh Circuit and if they're going to have 310 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: oral argument and that sort of stuff, I think we're 311 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: probably not going to hear a whole lot about this 312 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: for the next sixty days, other than what President Trump 313 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: has to say about it. And I think the same 314 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: thing is probably true you know, not that you asked 315 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: me about this, but the same thing is probably true 316 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: of Hunter Biden. I'd expect that nothing's going to move 317 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 1: on that for the next sixty days either. All right, Andy, 318 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: you did twenty years in a prosecutor's office, so you 319 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: know of which you are talking to a great extent. 320 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:50,959 Speaker 1: You mentioned the Eleventh Circuit. What if they uphold this ruling, 321 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: then in theory, it would go all the way to 322 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. And I want to kind of just 323 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: for everybody out there who's not sitting around like analyzing 324 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: the legality here, you said something that I think is 325 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: so fascinating. Trump is arguing that essentially he retains executive 326 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: privilege from when he was president, even if that executive privilege, 327 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: in his opinion, is contrary to what the current executive 328 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: ie Joe Biden, believes about executive privilege. I'm not an 329 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: expert in this realm at all. Tell us what this 330 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: means in layman's terms, what this battle is like potentially 331 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: at the Eleventh Circuit, and how you would handicap what 332 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: the judges there might do in terms of analyzing it. Well, 333 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: I think there's a very good chance Trump is going 334 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: to lose in the Eleventh Circuit, and I think he 335 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: probably losing the Supreme Court. And let me explain why 336 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 1: the executive privilege is this idea that there has to 337 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: be confidentiality between the communications, the communications between the president 338 00:19:55,760 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: and his top advisors and how subordinates carry decision making. 339 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: How that gets carried out. It's a tenet of originalist 340 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: legal thinking, and I consider myself in that school of thought. 341 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: That as Justice Scalia wrote in a famous descent in 342 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: the nineteen eighty eight in a case called Morrison v Olsen, 343 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: which was a Special Council case, all executive authority in 344 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: the government in the Constitution is reposed in one official, 345 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: the President of the United States. Everybody else who was 346 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: in the executive branch is a delegate of the president power. 347 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: In other words, they don't have their own power. They 348 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: get to use the president's power at the president's pleasure, 349 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: which is why the president can fire anyone he wants 350 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: to fire, except the vice president, who's separately elected under 351 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: the constitution. If you believe that, as I believe it, 352 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: it's hard for me to swallow the idea that a 353 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: former president who has no power not only has retained 354 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: a measure of executive privilege, but also has executive privilege 355 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: that he can exercise against the will of the incumbent 356 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: president and the executive agencies of the government. I think 357 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: it might be arguable that executive privilege could be exercised, 358 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 1: say against Congress or against you know, some freedom of information. 359 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: So So Andy, though, explain and this may be off 360 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: and just for everybody we're speaking to. Any McCarthy Fox News, 361 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: you know him there as legal analyst and he was 362 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: at the mighty Southern District of New York for twenty 363 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: plus years as a federal prosecutor. So, Andy, though, executive 364 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: privilege is supposed to be able to protect deliberations between 365 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 1: a president and his top advisors, right, so essentially he 366 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: should be able to have a discussion. If this ruling 367 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: doesn't stand, then can't any president say, hey, you know 368 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: that stuff that you thought was executive privilege, I actually 369 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: want access to all that. My political party wants to 370 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: put that on the front page of a New or Times. Yeah, 371 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: that's why I think Buck that Biden is being very 372 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: foolish by a sweeping denial that Trump has executive privilege. Here. 373 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: I think what Biden should have done has said, you know, look, 374 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: let's look at this document by document and then he 375 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: would decide whether to support Trump on executive privilege or not, 376 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: because this shouldn't be a partisan consideration. Biden's going to 377 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: want to have executive privilege when he is a former president. 378 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: You know, he's gonna want the incumbent president and institutionally, 379 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: this is what's happened in the past. He's going to 380 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: want to have a situation where where whoever his successor 381 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: is honors his assertion. Yeah. I mean, Andy, it sounds 382 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: like you're telling me that President Biden's breaking some norms here. 383 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: Oh well, yeah, yeah, but you're right. I think this 384 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: is really foolish. I mean, I don't think Trump should 385 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: be making sweeping claims of executive privilege, but neither do 386 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: I think Biden should be doing sweeping rejections. I think, 387 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: you know, there's very likely to be executive privilege material 388 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: in what the government is looking at, and I think 389 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: it was a mistake for Biden to just wave it 390 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: without having any idea what he's waving. Andy, you mentioned 391 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 1: the sixty day rule, which would theoretically put a damper 392 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: on any investigation anyway. But based on this Federal District 393 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: Court judges ruling, there is no case here that would 394 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: be able to be prosecuted I think, basically against Donald Trump. 395 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: So there, obviously, I think has to be an appeal, unless, 396 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: by the way, there was some agreement that we had, 397 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: like a plea agreement behind the scenes, and they just 398 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: they didn't want to try to set any precedent going 399 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: forward Eleventh Circuit ruling. We're regardless of what the Eleventh 400 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: Circuit rules, wouldn't you think, Andy, that Trump, if he lost, 401 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: would appeal it to the Supreme Court at minimum as 402 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: a stall tactic. How long are we talking about this 403 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: process potentially playing out in your mind legally before this 404 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: issue is resolved. Yeah, see play. I think that the 405 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: fact that we have to consider in connection with that 406 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 1: is that the Trump people waited a couple of weeks 407 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: before they sought a special master. So it's hard to 408 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: unring that bell. You know, at this point, they actually 409 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: had gone through their process of segregating privilege what they 410 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: think is privileged information and had given what they thought 411 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: was not privileged to the investigation team. So I think 412 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: even if this continues to wind up the appellate courts, 413 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: that doesn't necessarily mean the courts would put a stop 414 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,239 Speaker 1: to the government's investigation. You know, they might be able to, like, 415 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: they might be able to get vacated the part of 416 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: Judge Cannon's ruling where she basically suspended the Justice Department's 417 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: use of these materials in its investigation, which you just 418 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 1: alluded to. That doesn't make a lot of sense to me. 419 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: I have to say at a point where they had 420 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 1: already completed their process, and I think you know what 421 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: you could say, if you're the higher courts is you don't, look, 422 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 1: They've already got the documents. If there's taint, they're already tainted. 423 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: So we're we're not going to jump the gun on that. 424 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: If it turns out down the road that they've used 425 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: information that turns out to have been to have been privileged, 426 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: then at that point Trump can complain and get evidence 427 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 1: thrown out or do whatever is appropriate, and we'll hear 428 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: that then, but we're not going to stop them from 429 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: investigating at this point. That doesn't make any sense. Andy, 430 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: is this, in your mind heading toward nothing Burger territory? 431 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 1: As in, they got the docks, there's going to be 432 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: some wrangling over the docks, but there's no further legal 433 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: action of consequence. Or in the back of your mind 434 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: or maybe the front of your mind, are you still 435 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,360 Speaker 1: thinking they may decide right before Trump announces to run 436 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: for president, that they are going to prosecute him. Well, Buck, 437 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 1: I have a little humility that I think the Justice 438 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: Department could actually use So I don't assume that I'm 439 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: necessarily right about this, because you know, this is a 440 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: moving target and we've all had things that we've been 441 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: right and wrong about. What the Justice Department did wrong 442 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: here was they not only decided that Trump had no 443 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: privilege that could be asserted against the executive branch. They 444 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: were so sure about it they didn't get a court ruling. 445 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 1: And as a result, I can't sit here and say 446 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: that that's not that that necessarily ends up being a 447 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: nothing burger. It could be a nothing burger if I'm 448 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 1: right and Trump doesn't have a privilege that he can assert. Again, 449 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: Oh Andy, I'm sorry. I mean I'm at nothing burger 450 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: in terms of whether they're going to charge him for 451 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: the classified documents, which is kind of the you know 452 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 1: we're we're talking about here. Effects obviously that final decision. 453 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 1: I'm looking even beyond this too. Is this not going 454 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: anywhere as a criminal matter? Yeah? I think Buck. I 455 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 1: continue to think that the obstruction is what they're looking at. 456 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: I don't think they wanted to a classify information case 457 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,719 Speaker 1: just because those cases are so hard, as you know, 458 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: you know, it's hard to do a classified information case 459 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: without exposing the classified inforiation, and if that wasn't a problem, 460 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: this wouldn't be criminal activity right in the first place. 461 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: I think if they go after him for obstruction, I 462 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: could see them throwing in the presidential records because that 463 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: doesn't raise any you know, security problem, and they can 464 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: do the obstruction without identifying what's in the classified documents, 465 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 1: because it doesn't matter what they say if he you know, 466 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 1: if they're going to say he tried to conceal them, 467 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: or if the issue is even like whether they were 468 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: classified or not, that goes to whether you know he 469 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: did the things that you would need to do to 470 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: declassify them. Doesn't matter what's in him. But if you 471 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: start making the counts about the classified information, I just 472 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: think that, you know, you run into the old gray 473 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: mail problem where the defendant says, I can't defend myself 474 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 1: without getting into what's in the substance of the documents. 475 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: So I don't really think they want to do that case. 476 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: And I've always thought that if they can, if there's 477 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: any January sixth information in what they seized, I think 478 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 1: they would use that because they're definitely trying to make 479 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 1: a January sixth case Okay, whether this advances that or not, 480 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 1: we don't know, right Andy, this feels like legal trench 481 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: warfare that we have officially entered, which is why I'm 482 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: kind of focused on the timeframe. So last dual question 483 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: here for you, how long does this process play out? 484 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: It feels to me like this is years, not days 485 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: or weeks. And how ultimately, from your perspective, do they 486 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: get over the decision not to charge Hillary Clinton with, 487 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: let's be honest, something that arguably is much worse considering 488 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: those were electronic documents that could have been easier to transfer, 489 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: and she certainly doesn't have the presidential privileges arguments that 490 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: Donald Trump would be able to apply here. I'm curious 491 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: legally the precedent of Hillary, how does that play out? 492 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: And ultimately what is the time frame that we are 493 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 1: looking at here? Two things. One, I think the Hillary 494 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: thing will weigh heavily on Garland because the issue here 495 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: is not just whether there are crimes, but whether it's 496 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: appropriate under all the circumstances to bring charges here. And 497 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: I think the country's already on fire with the idea 498 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: quite appropriately that we have a two tier justice system 499 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: that would fuel that in a way, that we haven't 500 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: even seen up until now, So that should be something 501 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: that weighs on them heavily. As far as how long 502 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: it'll take play. I think the Democrats like this. You know, 503 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: the last four weeks, while Trump is front and center, 504 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Biden's numbers have ticked up a bit. 505 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: You know, the Democratic Congress's prospects have picked up a 506 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: little bit as far as the midterms are concerned. So 507 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: I think anything that makes Trump front and center and 508 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: takes attention away from Biden and what you do into 509 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: the country is is helpful to them. And that kind 510 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 1: of plays into legal proceedings because, as you know, you 511 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: can drag this out for a long time, no doubt, Andy, 512 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: we appreciate the time you're fantastic on all these issues. 513 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: I feel like this story is not going away anytime soon. Amen. 514 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: I'm afraid that's right. He's Andy McCarthy. 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Incredible limited time offer My 534 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: pillow dot Com promo code Clay and Buck. You can 535 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: also call eight hundred seven nine two thirty two sixty 536 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 1: nine Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. I 537 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: want to share a story with many of you out 538 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: there that is awful. We're the large audience in Memphis 539 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: and this story has spread well beyond Memphis because unfortunately, 540 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: I believe it's emblematic of the crime wave that we 541 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: are living amidst in so many different parts of the 542 00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: country right now. So a young mom of two named 543 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: Eliza Fletcher went for a jog. She was training for marathons. 544 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: She did early morning jogs because she wanted to be 545 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: able to I'm I don't know her full routine, but 546 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: I do have a wife who is trained for marathons. 547 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: And in the South, in the summer in particular, it 548 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: is super hot, and if you have a job and 549 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,719 Speaker 1: you have young children, sometimes you have to get up 550 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: really early in the morning to be able to get 551 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 1: in long runs outdoors. So this mom of two, school 552 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: teacher in the Memphis area young kids, she's out for 553 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: a jog. It's four thirty in the morning. She is 554 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: by the University of Memphis's campus, and she is attacked 555 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: and assaulted by a man who kidnaps and kills her. 556 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: The man who kidnapped and killed her was out of 557 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: jail early. He did not fulfill the full terms of 558 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: his sentence in the state of Tennessee that would have 559 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: required him to still be in jail. Where he had 560 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: previously kidnapped a man a lawyer in Memphis, put him 561 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: in the trunk and drove that man around, requiring him 562 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: to withdraw money from a variety of ATM machines until 563 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: that man was able to escape. He was released from 564 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: prison in November of twenty twenty and he's been charged 565 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 1: with first degree murder. This man has for killing this 566 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: young mother of two. Buck, I think one reason why 567 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: this story again, her name is Eliza Fletcher. I would 568 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: encourage you guys google her. She appears to have been 569 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: a fantastic mother, wife, school teacher, array of sunshine in 570 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: the world in which she lived. And I think one 571 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: reason Buck, this is connecting with so many people viscerally, 572 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 1: and I know many of you out there have been 573 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: following this story. They've been looking for her body, they've 574 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: been trying to figure out what happened to her. Is 575 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 1: because it is a perfect approximation of a random act 576 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: of violence that should have never been able to be 577 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: perpetrated against anyone. A young mom is out for a 578 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: jog training for a marathon. Two young kids, school teacher 579 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 1: husband back home early in the morning. She's trying to 580 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: fit in all the things in her life, and she 581 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: is attacked and brutally murdered in a totally senseless and 582 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: random act of violence by someone who should have never 583 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: been on the streets. There were policy decisions that not 584 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: only this hainous incident, this hainous crime, but in so 585 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: many others like it across the country, made this tragedy possible. 586 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: Democrats have been pushing for early release, pushing for ending 587 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: mass incarceration. These are decisions that they made based in ideology, 588 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: based in the sense that the criminal justice system is racist, 589 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: that the best way to address what they claim is 590 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 1: the racism of the system is to lower prosecution rates, 591 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: lower incarceration terms, let people out earlier, and effectively side 592 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: with criminals as much as possible in the criminal justice system. 593 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: That is a shift that has been occurring now for years. 594 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: In the last couple of years, we have seen the 595 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: numbers reflect what that actually means. I saw an ad 596 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,399 Speaker 1: over the week, and I'm trying to remember what group 597 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 1: put it out, but it went viral. It got a 598 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,720 Speaker 1: lot of attention Clay and it was just showing all 599 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: of the crime that's been occurring in cities across the 600 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 1: country in broad daylight. I mean, really brazen, awful violent 601 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: crime going on in cities across the country. And where 602 00:35:55,640 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: do you see democrats focusing more attention Donald Trump's documents, 603 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: habits or stopping crime in major cities that are at 604 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: all times. Look at what's going on in Seattle. I 605 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 1: think Seattle just is on track for its most violent 606 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 1: year ever. Portland is on track for its most violent 607 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: year ever. Philadelphia is on track for its most violent 608 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: year ever. These are This means hundreds and hundreds of 609 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 1: people killed beyond what had been the case in an 610 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: average year in these in these cities because democrats feel 611 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,920 Speaker 1: better about themselves, they feel anti racist by pushing these policies. 612 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 1: They think they're being heroes and they're pushing for civil 613 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:42,879 Speaker 1: rights or whatever, by limiting the terms that people serve 614 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: for violent crimes, by undermining the will of state legislatures 615 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 1: in many places, And how many of these tragedies do 616 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,359 Speaker 1: we have to go through before people realize if they 617 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 1: don't change the system, we will have more of this, 618 00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: more of these horrible incidents, more of these. You know, 619 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: it's the person who is who is assaulted or in 620 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: this case killed after being kidnapped. It's also the family 621 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: that's shattered. Ye. I think for all the shootings that 622 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 1: occur in a place, let's say Philadelphia, where they're going 623 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: to have their worst year ever for murders, it's going 624 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: to be hundreds of murders, it's thousands and thousands of 625 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 1: people whose lives are shattered. It's it's businesses on the 626 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:26,240 Speaker 1: street where a shooting occurs. Let's say where a drive 627 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: by occurs, that knows that they have to leave the neighbor, 628 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 1: they have to close it down. It's the urban decay 629 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 1: that results. And what do Democrats do when we say 630 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 1: we need to back police, we need to crack down. 631 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: You know what they do They sneer and say that's racist. 632 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 1: You know, I think it's racist to leave minority communities 633 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 1: to suffer from the idiotic Democrat policies and not to 634 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,240 Speaker 1: recognize me. And as I said, Clay, in New York City, 635 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,760 Speaker 1: they can break it down. You know, five thousand people 636 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: in New York give or take, are the repeat violent offenders. 637 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: There are two million black residents of New York City. Yep. 638 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 1: Just so, do we want to just keep the ninety 639 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: nine point nine percent safe or do we want to 640 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 1: focus in on disparate impact and what makes social justice 641 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: warriors feel good about themselves. Arguing that you're too nice 642 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: to criminals is a luxury of a low crime environment, 643 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: and we are not in a low crime environment. And 644 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: I know there are so many moms out there that 645 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: saw this story and what happened to this young mom 646 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 1: and thought that could have been me. I'm up early 647 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,959 Speaker 1: running in my neighborhood. At any point someone can pull 648 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 1: off on the side of the road and grab me 649 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 1: like happened to this poor mom, Eliza Fletcher. I do 650 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,360 Speaker 1: want to mention the Speaker of the Tennessee House reached 651 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 1: out to me about this case because it has resonated 652 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,320 Speaker 1: certainly around the nation, but in the state of Tennessee 653 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 1: in a major way. And Speaker Camera and Sexton, I'm 654 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 1: gonna try to get a on maybe to talk about 655 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: this case later this week, Buck, because I do think 656 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: there's a lot of interest. He said, this year we 657 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 1: passed one hundred percent sentencing for violent criminals in Tennessee. 658 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,919 Speaker 1: This guy would have still been in jail under the 659 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: truth in Sentencing bill that had been pushed. This mom 660 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,919 Speaker 1: would still be alive. How many people out there are 661 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: like Eliza Fletcher, Buck thousands, maybe even tens of thousands 662 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 1: now of people who would be alive if the violent 663 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 1: criminals who took their lives had been kept behind bars. 664 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: The cops, no, Buck, you just mentioned it. They know 665 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,879 Speaker 1: who the bad guys are. We've got to let them 666 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 1: go after the bad guys, and when we catch them, 667 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: we got to put them away behind bars, and we 668 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,320 Speaker 1: got to throw away the damn key. This being concerned 669 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,800 Speaker 1: about being too mean to criminals business. It is inexcusable. 670 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 1: This defund the police argument. It is indefensible. And I'm 671 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: there being tens of thousands of Eliza Fletchers all over 672 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 1: this country, one hundred percent, honest, one hundred percent did 673 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 1: nothing wrong, victims of senseless violence. And as you mentioned, Buck, 674 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 1: the families will never recover from this. Never will these 675 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,319 Speaker 1: little boys who grow up without their mom, husband, all 676 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,280 Speaker 1: of her family, the kids that she would have taught 677 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,839 Speaker 1: in school and raised up to be better, They will 678 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,720 Speaker 1: never recover from this loss. And it should have never happened. 679 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 1: There is blood on the hands of anyone who allowed 680 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 1: this to occur and continues to allow it to occur. Yeah, 681 00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 1: I mean, if Democrats were serious about addressing the issue, 682 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: they would admit that many of the things that they've 683 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: been pushing for, bail reform, I mean, go down the 684 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 1: whole list, all these things, they have not made us safer. 685 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 1: They have made things less safe, and more people have 686 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 1: been the victims of violent crime, have been raped, have 687 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,959 Speaker 1: been murdered. That has happened because of their stupid ideas. Yes, 688 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 1: and it happens so that people like Nancy Pelosi who 689 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 1: live in fifteen million dollars mansions in the Bay Area 690 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 1: with security everywhere and feel good about themselves. For the 691 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: rest of us, there needs to be the reckoning you 692 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 1: and I have talked about so much on the crime 693 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: issue alone, Democrats deserve to lose their jobs in elected office, 694 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 1: to lose the power that they accrued in twenty twenty 695 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,520 Speaker 1: while the country was under durests from the BLM riots 696 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 1: that they were supporting. By the way, and if still 697 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 1: never condemned and never said yeah, maybe that was a 698 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 1: little too far. In fact, as we know, that led 699 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: directly to the massive increase in murders, assaults, burglary, steps, 700 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 1: you name it that we've been living through in this 701 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: country for the last two years. Undermining cops became a 702 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,279 Speaker 1: way for Democrats to pander to their base, and they 703 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: did it as a party. They've never backed down from it. 704 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 1: Eliza Fletcher would still be alive if your politicians did 705 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 1: their job and kept violent criminals behind bars. And she 706 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 1: is emblematic of what is occurring far too often all 707 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 1: over this country. Crime completely out of control. We got 708 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 1: to put people behind bars and let the good guys, 709 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: that is, the cops, lock up the bad guys and 710 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:05,439 Speaker 1: support them to duce period guys. Back in the day, 711 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,280 Speaker 1: the debate in America was about which policies to pursue 712 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: to improve this great country we all love. Too often 713 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 1: today we find ourselves arguing about whether our country is 714 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 1: even great at all. That's a real argument, and it's 715 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: happening in more places than it should be. 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She's a 733 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,839 Speaker 1: senior editor at the Federalist, of Fox's contributors. She's got 734 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 1: an amazing book, Rigged, How the Media, Big Tech, and 735 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,719 Speaker 1: the Democrats seized our elections. Molly, great to have you back. 736 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 1: It is great to be here with you. How are 737 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 1: we looking at this stage right now, going into this 738 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 1: midterm for control of the House, control the Senate. What's 739 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,000 Speaker 1: top line for you? Just want to say it's an 740 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 1: excellent data Ask me this question, because I, as a 741 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 1: rule do not pay attention to any of the prognostications 742 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 1: about what's going to happen until Labor Day. And we've 743 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,840 Speaker 1: hit Labor Day, and so now I'm now I'm joining 744 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 1: the fray and discussing what I think is going to happen. 745 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 1: So I think that the fundamentals of this election have 746 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 1: been pretty constant. You have the Democrat Party in control 747 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 1: of everything in Washington, DC, the presidency, both houses. You 748 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,920 Speaker 1: have people really upset with the policies that Democrats have 749 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,880 Speaker 1: put in place, and so all the polls are very 750 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 1: consistently showing that people have very negative views about the 751 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 1: direction of the country, and they don't have much reason 752 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,760 Speaker 1: to go for Joe Biden and so or his party. 753 00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 1: So I think it's going to be a pretty good 754 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,959 Speaker 1: year for Republicans. I do have a few caveats on that, though. 755 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 1: What are those caveats? Molly, Thanks for coming on. You 756 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: want to give a shout out to your mom, who 757 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 1: I understand as a big listener in Colorado. We would 758 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 1: certainly love for her to receive a claim that she 759 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 1: well deserves for producing you at minimum, But yeah, what 760 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 1: are those caveats? And give a shout out to your mom? Yeah, 761 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,240 Speaker 1: Hi to Caroline, who is not even a big radio 762 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,280 Speaker 1: listener but loves your show and so great taste all 763 00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 1: the time about the brilliance that you guys have shared 764 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,160 Speaker 1: and what she's learned. But yeah, the compnswer that I 765 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,879 Speaker 1: don't think the Republican Party is doing a good job 766 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: of arguing for anything. They think it's sufficient to just 767 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 1: let Democrats be the bad guys that that will carry 768 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,880 Speaker 1: them to victory, and it's actually probably true. That's actually 769 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,879 Speaker 1: so much less than they could accomplish by being very 770 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 1: vigorous about what they're for and how they're going to 771 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 1: fight against some of these things that have people throughout 772 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 1: the country is so upset about the direction of the country. 773 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,320 Speaker 1: Speaking of Molly Hemingway, senior editor at The Federalist. The 774 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 1: Federalist dot com is a great website covering politics, news, 775 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:42,359 Speaker 1: everything you need to know. Molly, race by race or yeah, 776 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:46,359 Speaker 1: we'll do what that was because they state by state Pennsylvania. 777 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,400 Speaker 1: We were just talking about doctor Oz Fetterman. How do 778 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,239 Speaker 1: you see that one? So I got to kick out 779 00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,399 Speaker 1: of hell. Like a month ago, everyone just decided that 780 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 1: race was over and in favor of Fetterman. It reminds 781 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 1: you of why you need to see what's happening in 782 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 1: an actual state where Federman is unable to campaign. Essentially 783 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,360 Speaker 1: he's unable to speak. His campaign admitted to The Washington 784 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: Post that he has trouble in complicated auditory environments, which 785 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,759 Speaker 1: is kind of the definition of being a senator. And 786 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 1: so and meanwhile, them at Oz, who hadn't really been 787 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 1: doing much campaigning, is now barnstorming throughout the state. And 788 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 1: so Federman's obviously ahead according to most polling, but I 789 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 1: think that's definitely going to tighten up in AZ's favor. Molly, 790 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,719 Speaker 1: what did you think of Biden's speech Thursday night. I'm 791 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 1: still having trouble processing that that actually happened. I couldn't 792 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 1: believe how dark and dangerous it was. And I am 793 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,239 Speaker 1: not one of these people who gets really upset about 794 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 1: heated political rhetoric on, you know, no matter who's doing it. 795 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,280 Speaker 1: I kind of think all's fair in love and politics, 796 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,360 Speaker 1: and you've got to get out there and punch. I 797 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 1: kissed him, mildly, horrified that he went to war again. 798 00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 1: The entire Republican Party ten, you know, basically anyone who 799 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:07,040 Speaker 1: didn't vote for him he's putting in the enemy camp. 800 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 1: It's or who doesn't plan to support him in the 801 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 1: upcoming elections for his party. It just is a really 802 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 1: dangerous line to cross at a time when we're experiencing 803 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,799 Speaker 1: such political division. And I'm I've never been a Joe 804 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 1: Biden fan particularly, but if there was something to be 805 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:27,759 Speaker 1: said for him that he said that his administration, the 806 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 1: media that ran his campaign claims this would be a competent, unifying, 807 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:37,879 Speaker 1: moderate administration. It's completely incompetent. It is the furthest thing 808 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,400 Speaker 1: from moderate, and it's very divisive. And so if you 809 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 1: had to get rid of Trump, and because of all 810 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 1: those because because of the drama of his presidency, even 811 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 1: if people liked the direction of the country, it makes 812 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,800 Speaker 1: no sense to replace Trump with someone who is much 813 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 1: more corrosive in his rhetoric and much more divisive and 814 00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,759 Speaker 1: far less competent. It's the opposite direction of what we 815 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,359 Speaker 1: I mean, how much molly of what we're seeing right now. 816 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 1: I think there's some poll that says, you know, generic 817 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:09,160 Speaker 1: ballot Democrats now have the advantage over Republicans. How do 818 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 1: you separate out what seems to be likely suppression of 819 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:20,399 Speaker 1: Republican enthusiasm. Essentially, dare I say disinformation When it comes 820 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 1: to assessments of polling and the sweeping analysis, you'll hear 821 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,400 Speaker 1: on a lot of the other networks out there about 822 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 1: how all Republicans are getting clobored on this issue, or 823 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 1: oh it's looking bad from on that issue. Feels at 824 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 1: some level like that's meant to depress turnout. It's obviously 825 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 1: the case that people are trying to influence influence the 826 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 1: perceptions about races through some polling that just frankly doesn't 827 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,759 Speaker 1: make any sense. I did see someone last week going 828 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 1: through and commenting on how previous election years were Republicans 829 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 1: had very good years, say twenty ten. They would show 830 00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 1: the headline from Politico at this point of the campaign 831 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 1: cycle saying that Publicans were in a very bad situation 832 00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 1: and it was going to go horribly, and of course 833 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,920 Speaker 1: by November it was they picked up sixty three seats. 834 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,040 Speaker 1: And so it does affect the way people talk about it. 835 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,800 Speaker 1: And obviously corporate media are very much in the political 836 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,600 Speaker 1: camp of the Democrats. That it's evidenced by nearly everything 837 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 1: they do, and so you saw that throughout August they 838 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,319 Speaker 1: were trying to convince people that Biden was back and 839 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:27,240 Speaker 1: he was wearing aviator sunglasses and everything was going great. 840 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,440 Speaker 1: The thing is, though, it obviously isn't going great, and 841 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,400 Speaker 1: as much as they were trying to make something happen, 842 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,840 Speaker 1: it seems like they couldn't quite do it polling wise. 843 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,279 Speaker 1: But these polls do have an effect on people, and 844 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,400 Speaker 1: like in twenty twenty, the polls were so horrible for 845 00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,319 Speaker 1: Republicans that I think it did affect the mood of 846 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,000 Speaker 1: people even in the Trump administration. You know, you heard 847 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,799 Speaker 1: Bill Barr say he really didn't think Trump had a chance. 848 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,759 Speaker 1: He was shocked that the race was as close as 849 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,360 Speaker 1: it was. Well, that's a function of the polling narrative 850 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 1: that people put out there, and you have to kind 851 00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,160 Speaker 1: of step back and think through, you know, what are 852 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:02,640 Speaker 1: the fundamental what's really going on? Talk to real people 853 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 1: who are livid with the direction of the country, even 854 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 1: if everyone in DC in New York are trying to 855 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:12,239 Speaker 1: convince everybody that things are actually going better. Molly Bluck 856 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,600 Speaker 1: and I have been arguing, just based on COVID alone, 857 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:19,600 Speaker 1: if democracy really works, then blue state governors, blue state 858 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:24,320 Speaker 1: congressmen and senators, certainly mayors, they all failed. Kids and 859 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,160 Speaker 1: suddenly it's like everybody is looking around and saying, hey, 860 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,960 Speaker 1: wait a minute. We had generational learning loss, and the 861 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:35,480 Speaker 1: people who lost the most were minority kids whose families 862 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 1: didn't have the same resources to be able to handle 863 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,560 Speaker 1: when they suddenly weren't in schools. Is there going to 864 00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,200 Speaker 1: ever be a reckoning for this failure? In your mind? 865 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,799 Speaker 1: Will we get it this fall? Well? I think I 866 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:52,200 Speaker 1: live in Virginia, and it was fascinating to see what 867 00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,759 Speaker 1: happened in our off your elections when in Virginia is 868 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,320 Speaker 1: a pretty blue state and you had all three statewide 869 00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,840 Speaker 1: off disco Republican and it was one hundred percent what 870 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,359 Speaker 1: was going on in the schools, the shutdowns, and then 871 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:07,520 Speaker 1: also that they have been like pushing actual racist curriculum 872 00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:11,160 Speaker 1: in the form of critical race theory in school districts 873 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,799 Speaker 1: across Virginia, and so I think that you'll still see 874 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:18,280 Speaker 1: parents revolting against this. However, I do find it passing. 875 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:22,680 Speaker 1: There's no question that Democrats and their base, like the 876 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 1: teachers unions, were pushing really hard to keep schools closed, 877 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,000 Speaker 1: to keep masks on children, and they's had very bad 878 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,800 Speaker 1: outcomes on the students learning. You've seen in recent weeks 879 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,279 Speaker 1: where you have again major media just kind of gas 880 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,240 Speaker 1: lighting the country and claiming that it was the teachers 881 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,040 Speaker 1: unions who pushed to open the schools. That's just it's 882 00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,080 Speaker 1: amazing true in any way, that's a level of gaslighting 883 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:47,240 Speaker 1: that's very disturbing to experience. And it's happening right now 884 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:50,480 Speaker 1: because they know it's so bad electorally, so they're just 885 00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,239 Speaker 1: going for the We will completely lie about who shut 886 00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,239 Speaker 1: down the schools and who kept them shutdown. Speaking of 887 00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,239 Speaker 1: Molly Hemingway of the Federalists right now, Molly, we do 888 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:03,480 Speaker 1: have some campaign folks from campaigns who listen people's staffs 889 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,440 Speaker 1: who are up for re election to listen to the show. 890 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:09,560 Speaker 1: If there was one area where you would like to 891 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:14,320 Speaker 1: see Republicans between now and that big election day really 892 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,879 Speaker 1: go on offense, what would it be and how would 893 00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:20,000 Speaker 1: you want them to do it? I think there are 894 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,640 Speaker 1: many ways that they should, but there's one that they 895 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:25,440 Speaker 1: absolutely have to according to polling, which is being accurate 896 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:29,480 Speaker 1: and honest about what the situation is with abortion law 897 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,480 Speaker 1: in states throughout the country. The DABS decision overturns Roby Wade. 898 00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:37,040 Speaker 1: This actually makes for a very moderate approach to abortion 899 00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,000 Speaker 1: law instead of having it where nobody can have any 900 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:41,880 Speaker 1: say in it, even though the vast majority of the 901 00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:45,080 Speaker 1: country would like to see at least some restrictions. Dabbs 902 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:49,919 Speaker 1: enables people through their representatives to put in place some 903 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:54,719 Speaker 1: protection for women and children in the pregnancy situation. And yet, 904 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,719 Speaker 1: because again the media are so crazy lefty, they have 905 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,440 Speaker 1: basically lied about what that ruling is, what it does. 906 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,440 Speaker 1: They said it's antidemocratic, when that's exactly what it is 907 00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:07,560 Speaker 1: is It is democratic. And the vast majority of Americans 908 00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 1: support at least some restrictions on abortion to protect unborn 909 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,960 Speaker 1: human life. So they can't just let the media and 910 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:19,640 Speaker 1: Democrats run that conversation, particularly when there's so much misinformation 911 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:23,600 Speaker 1: and disinformation about what is in play with doubts and 912 00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,480 Speaker 1: people love life, people love babies, people love mothers, people 913 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,160 Speaker 1: love family formation, and so it's a very strong issue. 914 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,840 Speaker 1: But you can't do it defensively. You have to explain 915 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:40,040 Speaker 1: proactively what you're for and why it benefits society. Molly Hemingway, 916 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 1: everybody the Federalist dot com go check out our latest Molly, 917 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:44,400 Speaker 1: come back talk to us again soon. We got to 918 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:48,719 Speaker 1: see how the selection goes, take care thanks. 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