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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in. Late Kick is live. It is

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Speaker 1: Sunday night. It is April nineteenth, the year of Our Lord,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty. It is a busy night, even under quarantine

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Speaker 1: and the sporting world. We've got Late Kick on the

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Speaker 1: air live. We got a ton of people watching. We

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Speaker 1: really appreciate that. The last dance documentary for the Bulls.

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Speaker 1: It airs in about an hour. So my word to you,

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Speaker 1: we're going to be off the air so I can

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Speaker 1: walk across the Business Park complex and watch it myself.

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Speaker 1: So We've got a lot to get to tonight. I

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Speaker 1: am going to hit some new approach type content with Alabama.

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Speaker 1: I know that sounds weird because they themselves are in

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Speaker 1: the middle of a dynasty, but there is a lot new,

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Speaker 1: a lot more new than maybe you realize beneath the

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Speaker 1: surface happening in Tuscaloosa. I am going to respond to

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Speaker 1: one of your emails, because I encourage you to send them.

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Speaker 1: I put my address right there as Colin is showing

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Speaker 1: you on the lower third there on the bottom of

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Speaker 1: the screen, and one of you did just that from

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Speaker 1: the state of Mississippi the other day. So I'm going

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Speaker 1: to actually read that on airon comment because I thought

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Speaker 1: it was pretty well thought out, even though I disagree

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Speaker 1: with most of it. I'm also going to give you

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Speaker 1: the very latest that we're hearing on JT.

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Speaker 1: It's a very hot name out there right now, the

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Speaker 1: USC quarterback. Will he transfer? Will he stay at us?

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Speaker 1: If he does transfer, where's he going to go? That

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Speaker 1: video that we did the other night did insane numbers

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Speaker 1: on the YouTube channel, so we're going to revisit that.

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Speaker 1: And also I've got some Q and A's tonight that

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Speaker 1: I'm going to get to. And we had a couple

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Speaker 1: of good ones, really good ones submitted right before we

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Speaker 1: went on the air in the chat. And if you

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Speaker 1: please do us a quick favor. We're at forty seven

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Speaker 1: and really helps us out. So we appreciate you. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to touch on the podcast a little bit later on.

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Speaker 1: I gave you sort of an open question the other

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Speaker 1: so I'm gonna let you know what we're gonna do

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Speaker 1: with the Late Kick podcast coming up before the end

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Speaker 2: So let's get busy.

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Speaker 1: There are three things that we try and do anytime

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Speaker 1: the forefront of every piece of shaping of content that

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Speaker 1: we put together on this program. Number one thing that

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Speaker 1: we value is we value creation over aggregation. We do

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Speaker 1: not just read a bunch of websites and then kind

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Speaker 2: That's the first thing that we try to do.

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Speaker 1: The second thing that we really value is an independent

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Speaker 1: On the day that we do shows, I try not

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Speaker 1: to expose myself to anyone else's podcast, anyone else is writing.

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Speaker 1: Terrible content, but you'd watch it in the same way

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Speaker 1: you remember the Scott cochrane situation? From how long ago

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Speaker 2: Really appreciate it. I'm a Mississippi State grad.

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Speaker 1: I've heard you stay at least twice that Kiffin is

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Speaker 1: did I'm not calling national championships for oll Miss, but

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Speaker 1: there was a time where ed Orzron was the head

435
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Speaker 1: coach at ol Miss, and then he kind of bounces

436
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Speaker 1: around in college football, gets the interim job for a

437
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Speaker 1: cup of coffee at USC, never gets the permanent label.

438
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Speaker 1: Same at LSU does get the permanent label. And all

439
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Speaker 1: people w wanted to do was look at his track

440
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Speaker 1: record as a head coach, and all they had to

441
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Speaker 1: go on was Ole Miss and he was terrible.

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Speaker 2: There.

443
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Speaker 1: Does that always mean you're going to be terrible in

444
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Speaker 1: the future. No, he just won the national championship. So

445
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Speaker 1: I don't always take your past failures as a coach,

446
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Speaker 1: or as a CEO, or as a parent, or whatever

447
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Speaker 1: the case may be, as a sure fire indication you're

448
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Speaker 1: going to fail in the future. But yet it also

449
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Speaker 1: does bear repeating that he has failed in the past

450
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Speaker 1: spectacularly in some cases. So in the long run, Emailer

451
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Speaker 1: finishes here, Leach will win six to eight games a year.

452
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Speaker 2: Pay close attention here.

453
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Speaker 1: Leech will win six to eight games a year a

454
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Speaker 1: Mississippi State, which makes all Mississippi State fans happy. That's falsely.

455
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Speaker 1: You know that's false. You're winning six games a year.

456
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Speaker 1: You're not happy. You're winning seven games a year. Most

457
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Speaker 1: of you are probably not happy. Here's why you're not happy.

458
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Speaker 1: You think I'm going to put words in your mouth here.

459
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Speaker 1: Some Mississippi State folks that I've spoken to think that

460
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Speaker 1: the standard here for what Leech should achieve is higher

461
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Speaker 1: than what Dan mullin. Dan Mullen, to me, is the

462
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Speaker 1: best coach that they've had. Go back any era. To me,

463
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Speaker 1: in the modern era, let's just say the modern era

464
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Speaker 1: to do avoid arguments from nineteen thirties, he's the best

465
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Speaker 1: coach they've had. He got him to number one in

466
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Speaker 1: twenty fourteen. But I mean, by and large, they were

467
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Speaker 1: a team that when they were winning nine games a year,

468
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Speaker 1: it was a minor miracle. I think people expect more

469
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Speaker 1: than that here. I think people expect a higher consistent

470
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Speaker 1: caliber of play than they got from Dan Mullen. I

471
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Speaker 1: think it's just a little unrealistic. So you're telling me

472
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Speaker 1: six to eight wins a year and everyone's happy. I

473
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Speaker 1: don't know that I necessarily buy that. So he concludes

474
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Speaker 1: in the end, Leech is the better higher. There's a

475
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Speaker 1: lot of well thought out points here. I disagree with him,

476
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Speaker 1: but I do appreciate the email. I'm still going to

477
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Speaker 1: stick right now with my notion that I like where lane.

478
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Speaker 2: Kiff and oil Miss are a little bit more.

479
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Speaker 1: Moving on, We've got to transfer quarterback on the market.

480
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Speaker 1: This is a really big deal. Virus or not. This

481
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Speaker 1: in the college football world has been dominating the head lines.

482
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Speaker 1: The other day. JT. Daniels, USC quarterback he's injured at

483
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Speaker 1: the moment, announced that he was entering the transfer portal

484
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Speaker 1: for the record.

485
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Speaker 2: USC could be where he ends up.

486
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Speaker 1: It may all be for nought. He may not go anywhere.

487
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Speaker 1: Clay Helton, to his credit Southern cal head coach, put

488
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Speaker 1: out his own statement where he said, hey, we're assisting him.

489
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Speaker 1: We've been working on this with him. It's not a

490
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Speaker 1: surprise to us. So I mean there's coordinated effort there,

491
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Speaker 1: so we'll see where he ends up. I was on

492
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Speaker 1: a lot of websites yesterday. I was reading some stuff

493
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Speaker 1: from Tennessee, stuff from ls you, just trying to get

494
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Speaker 1: a gauge. I know what I've heard, but I want

495
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Speaker 1: to know what other people have heard about where JT.

496
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Speaker 1: Daniels could end up. Because this is a former five

497
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Speaker 1: star caliber quarterback. This is a really, really big deal.

498
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of folks have not evolved enough

499
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Speaker 1: on the way that they think about transfers. I'll finish

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Speaker 1: with that, but first I want to read you some

501
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Speaker 1: of Wes Rutger's work from over at valls two four

502
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Speaker 1: seven dot com. I think yesterday put out a piece

503
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Speaker 1: about this. It was really good. This is the best

504
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Speaker 1: quote I thought he had the very second U n

505
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Speaker 1: rolling classes at the College of your choosing. Your coaches

506
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Speaker 1: are trying to recruit players better than you, players they

507
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Speaker 1: believe are capable of stepping in and taking your job.

508
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Speaker 1: Don't take it personal.

509
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Speaker 2: It's just business.

510
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Speaker 1: If they're not recruiting players capable of stepping in and

511
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Speaker 1: taking your job, someone is going to step in and

512
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Speaker 1: take their job. That is beautifully put. If your coaches

513
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Speaker 1: are not consistently trying to find players better than you,

514
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Speaker 1: then the administration is eventually going to find a coach

515
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Speaker 1: better than them. When he went, JT. Daniels, being the

516
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Speaker 1: heat went into the transfer a portal I told you

517
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Speaker 1: Tennessee immediately.

518
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Speaker 2: Stood out for me.

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Speaker 1: That was backed up by a couple of folks that

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Speaker 1: I texted. Nothing concrete, but I can tell you pretty confidently,

521
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Speaker 1: as can a few other people.

522
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Speaker 2: I saw Wes Ruckert confirm this.

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Speaker 1: A couple of other folks have and I'm just going

524
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Speaker 1: to jump in there because I've been told independently there's

525
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Speaker 1: been communication between JT. Daniels and the Tennessee staff. This

526
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Speaker 1: is not big breaking news. I think most Balls fans

527
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: know that at this point. There's the T Martin connection.

528
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 1: Jim Cheney really good quarterback, so there's a good enough

529
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Speaker 1: reputation to sell them on there. You get to play

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Speaker 1: in the SEC. That's a good selling point for a

531
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Speaker 1: lot of kids. How about the list of why not

532
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 1: so though? Because this is really what was laughable to

533
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Speaker 1: me the other day. As soon as I suggested it,

534
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 1: as soon as a lot of other people have suggested,

535
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 1: hey maybe Tennessee for JT. Daniels, there have been people

536
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Speaker 1: that have offered the following in pushback.

537
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Speaker 2: Now, I want you to just follow along with me.

538
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: Here the first thing, and this I find truly laughable.

539
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 1: I had some Tennessee fans tell me we already got

540
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Speaker 1: too many quarterbacks. There's no such thing, there never has been,

541
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Speaker 1: and especially today, there never will be again such thing

542
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: in this sport, in modern college football as having too

543
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: many quarterbacks. I was telling Colin before the show. I

544
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Speaker 1: remember twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, somewhere around there.

545
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Speaker 2: At one point I.

546
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Speaker 1: Was doing talk radio in Georgia at the time, Alabama recruiting.

547
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Speaker 2: They had like a ton of running backs.

548
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Speaker 1: At one point they had in the same backfield Derrick

549
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Speaker 1: Henry Kenyan, Drake, Alvin Kamara, Alti, Tenpenny, Tiring Jones. All

550
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Speaker 1: these guys were four or five star running backs, and

551
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 1: some Bama fans said, why are we spending these scholarships

552
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Speaker 1: at running back? I mean we got enough, like our

553
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 1: cups already full of our cups overflowing. Let's recruit some dbs.

554
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Speaker 1: Let's recruit another quarterback. A year later, Dereck Henry is

555
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: having to carry the ball forty five times a game

556
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Speaker 1: against Auburn because they really don't have any true backup.

557
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Speaker 1: And even if they did, I mean, let's be real, Dereck.

558
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 2: Henry was totaling the load for him.

559
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Speaker 1: But the point is, you had an accident that took

560
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Speaker 1: the life of one of those running backs. You had

561
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Speaker 1: a couple other ones transfer out, you had discipline, you

562
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Speaker 1: had injury, and all of a sudden, all those running

563
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Speaker 1: backs are down to one running back. And nowhere to

564
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Speaker 1: be found was the group a year earlier that was saying, oh,

565
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Speaker 1: we got too many running backs. If it can happen

566
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Speaker 1: at running back, trust me, it can and will happen

567
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Speaker 1: at quarterback. There are a few truths in this world.

568
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: I can tell you right now. Every quarterback that's on

569
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Speaker 1: Tennessee's roster right now will not be there this time

570
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Speaker 1: next year.

571
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Speaker 2: I know one of them is gonna graduate a thing.

572
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Speaker 2: But you get my point.

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Speaker 1: Anytime, any time a chance to take a talent like this,

574
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Speaker 1: you take that talent. Here's part B of the pushback

575
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: that I got good luck going seven and five every year.

576
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Speaker 1: This is from the group that would suggest to the

577
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 1: individual being the player here, you're gonna go there and

578
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: they're always going to get the same results even if

579
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Speaker 1: you were there, as they had been getting prior to

580
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Speaker 1: you being there. Okay, if you understand anything about an

581
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: alpha type a personality, which you hope he has, otherwise

582
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Speaker 1: it's not worth really wasting a whole lot of time

583
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Speaker 1: on him. So let's assume that's the kind of guy JT.

584
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Speaker 1: Daniels is. Let's assume that he is a supreme competitor.

585
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: Competitors just laugh at that, and competitors dismiss you like

586
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,400
Speaker 1: a gnat on their shoulder. They are the difference in

587
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Speaker 1: seven and five and ten and two, or eleven in

588
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Speaker 1: one or twelve to zero. In their mind, there is

589
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: no seven and five if they're there. The whole reason

590
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: that team seven and five is cause I'm not there.

591
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 1: As soon as I walk in the door, we're no

592
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: longer a seven and five team. People say this in

593
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 1: recruiting all the time. Why would you want to go

594
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Speaker 1: there and go seven and five when you come here

595
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Speaker 1: and win a championship. Because I can go there and

596
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Speaker 1: win a championship. I'm part of what it takes to

597
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 1: build a championship culture. So that's how I would explain that.

598
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Speaker 1: Part three.

599
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Speaker 2: What does it say to the guys already on the roster.

600
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 2: This is not me speaking.

601
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Speaker 1: This is part of the pushback that I got from

602
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: Tennessee fans and maybe some other fans, not all Tennessee fans.

603
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 2: This was a minority.

604
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: I want to point out most of them would welcome

605
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 1: a quarterback of this caliber. What does it say to

606
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: the other guys on the roster. I'll tell you exactly

607
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 1: what it says. It says, we're trying to find guys

608
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: better than you. That's what it says. Let me go

609
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 1: back to the quote from Wes Rucker from Valls twenty

610
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 1: four seven. Brilliantly put this is business quote. If they

611
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 1: being the head coaches and coaching staff, if they're not

612
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 1: recruiting players capable of stepping in and taking your job,

613
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: someone's going to step in and take their job.

614
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 2: You think Ryan Day.

615
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: Worries about hurting anyone's feelings right now, if you see

616
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,439
Speaker 1: in Ohio state recruiting, you think he's clearing it with

617
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: his defensive back room before he takes another five star

618
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: out of They can pretty much go anywhere they want

619
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Speaker 1: to right now. Do you really think they have these

620
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: conversations in Tuscaloosa? Do you really think Davioswiney's having the

621
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: conversation right now of we need to pump the brakes

622
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: on this kid, We need to pause on that GiB.

623
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Speaker 2: It could upset the players we already have.

624
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Speaker 1: No, they don't have those conversations there, nor do they

625
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: need to be having those conversations in Knoxville now. Some

626
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: people I don't think if evolved the way that they

627
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 1: think about transfers enough in college football today versus nineteen

628
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: ninety five, nineteen seventy five. It's just a totally different world.

629
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Speaker 1: It is still rapidly evolving. Recall, if you will, with

630
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 1: me Oklahoma very recently, and I want you to think

631
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 1: about something, because I still get the sense from my

632
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: interactions with a lot of you that you view taking

633
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: a quarterback via the transfer market as somehow less genuine

634
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: or less valuable than recruiting one out of high school.

635
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: I don't believe that at all. So I want to

636
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: take you back. You can pick any of a number

637
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: of years. Now, Oklahoma last year, was there an asterisk

638
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,719
Speaker 1: next to their name as they went into Atlanta? Now

639
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: they got beat down, but they won the Big Twelve

640
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: and they were in the College Football Playoff with Jalen Hurts.

641
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: Did they make them fill out any special paperwork for

642
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 1: getting a quarterback off the transfer market? What about Baker Mayfield?

643
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: Does anyone and recall Baker Mayfield signing with Oklahoma out

644
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: of high school? Of course you don't. He didn't.

645
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: You ever heard of Kyler Murray?

646
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: You remember his long extended recruitment and then signing with

647
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: Oklahoma on National Signing Day. Of course you don't, because

648
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: he didn't. They, being Oklahoma, got all those cats off

649
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: the transfer market. They've perfected the art. In fact, they

650
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: let you take your lumps on someone else's roster and

651
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Speaker 1: then they say, okay, are you ready? You are okay,

652
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Speaker 1: come on, and then they win with basically the best

653
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Speaker 1: of the best on the transfer market. I don't know

654
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Speaker 1: why Tennessee couldn't do the same thing. Harrison Bailey may

655
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Speaker 1: be a future stud I have full confidence in him.

656
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: I don't care if you actually have Joe Burrow descend

657
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: from the pro draft back to college and put on

658
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Speaker 1: a ball's uniform. You go find the best talent that

659
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Speaker 1: you can and you stack it on your roster, and

660
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Speaker 1: then you let the chips fall where they may. That's

661
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Speaker 1: how you put together a championship caliber roster. If you're

662
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: worried about feelings of players already in the room, if

663
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: you're worried about having too many kids at a position,

664
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Speaker 1: if you're worried about anything other than putting the best

665
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Speaker 1: of the best in Knoxville, Tennessee and then taking the

666
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: field with them. You're seven and five, you're eight and four.

667
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: There's a lot of room for average in this sport.

668
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Speaker 1: I don't think they're paying Jeremy Pruitt and that coaching

669
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Speaker 1: staff what they're paying them to go seven and five

670
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Speaker 1: or eight and four. Average has been the standard of

671
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Speaker 1: the day. Long enough in Knoxville. It's time to ascend

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Speaker 1: to the next level, and it's time to challenge Georgia

673
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Speaker 1: instead of going toe to toe with Kentucky or Vanderbilt.

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Speaker 2: That's what it's time to do. We'll see if they

675
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Speaker 2: actually do that. All right, let's move on.

676
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Speaker 1: We had some we had some ideas, but I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you what we're gonna do.

678
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Speaker 2: I'm going to hit Q and A here.

679
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Speaker 1: So here's what we were going to do at this

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Speaker 1: point in the show tonight.

681
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Speaker 2: What I was gonna do.

682
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Speaker 1: Is because of the Bulls docu series that's starting tonight.

683
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Speaker 2: It starts in about thirty minutes. If you're watching the

684
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Speaker 2: show live, and if you are, we appreciate it.

685
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Speaker 1: And if you are, go ahead and hit the like

686
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: button or subscribe if you haven't already, do a lot

687
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: of things that we ask you to do so much

688
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: so that he gets redundant. So what we were gonna

689
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: do is, I was going to essentially think about the

690
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Speaker 1: last twenty years in college football. We're going to come

691
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Speaker 1: up with some thirty for thirty ideas. Now, this Bulls

692
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Speaker 1: documentary tonight, it's not a thirty for thirty.

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Speaker 2: This is an eight parter. I think, Colin, how long

694
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Speaker 2: does it go?

695
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Speaker 1: It goes for like two months, two episodes a night,

696
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Speaker 1: every Sunday night. This thing starts in about thirty minutes.

697
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Speaker 1: It's going to be incredible. If you haven't read the

698
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Speaker 1: story about what they did here, Essentially, the Bulls allowed

699
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: a full crew to film their entire ninety seven to

700
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Speaker 1: ninety eight season everything all Access and Michael Jordan had

701
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Speaker 1: full control of when it finally was released, and not

702
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Speaker 1: until a couple of years ago did he sign off

703
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Speaker 1: on it.

704
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Speaker 2: And so you're going to have.

705
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Speaker 1: A really really eye opening look. It's unedited, gonna be

706
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: a lot of f bombs flying. I would put the

707
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Speaker 1: children to bed before you at least watch this on ESPN.

708
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: I think ESPN two is Aaron the clean version. But

709
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Speaker 1: my point is, what if this were to happen in

710
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: the world of college football? What would you like to see?

711
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 1: And I'm going to pose this for the Thursday Show

712
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: because I think you may come up with some better

713
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: ideas than I did. I've got four money ideas.

714
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 2: Right now, but I want to push this to Thursday Night.

715
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Speaker 1: But if you, in hypothetical land could have put a

716
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: old documentary crew with any team, any person, for any

717
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: stretch of time, let's call it last thirty five forty years,

718
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: what would you have liked to see? Here's the catch.

719
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Speaker 1: I want creative titles because Colin and I think we

720
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: have some pretty creative titles. So I want to get

721
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Speaker 1: some creative titles from you. We're going to do this

722
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Speaker 1: on the Thursday Show. What I'm going to do right

723
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Speaker 1: now to end this show is I'm going to go

724
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Speaker 1: with some Q and A because we had a couple

725
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: of really good ones. I think the first one's going

726
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: to be a lot more controversial than it should be.

727
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Speaker 1: Connor Patterson leads us off, who do you consider the

728
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Speaker 1: blue bloods of college football? What is your criteria? Well,

729
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: my criteria and I didn't write it down, but I

730
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Speaker 1: don't think we need to. My criteria is you have

731
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Speaker 1: to have been relevant across at least three generations, including

732
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Speaker 1: this one. I can't have you, for instance, Miami is

733
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Speaker 1: not going to be a blue blood for me. I

734
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Speaker 1: can't have you dormant for twenty years and still consider

735
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Speaker 1: you a blue blood. You can't go dormant for that long.

736
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to have Florida State in here only

737
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Speaker 1: because I would like to see their success have extended

738
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Speaker 1: back further into history, and I would not so much today. Okay,

739
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Speaker 1: because they've won a championship in the last decade. Florida State.

740
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Speaker 1: You all know the Balladin Store, You know how they

741
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Speaker 1: were built. Had they done that in the seventies instead

742
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Speaker 1: of late eighties, nineties, et cetera, maybe they fit this qualification.

743
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Speaker 2: So I don't know necessarily.

744
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Speaker 1: How far back you have to go. I just think

745
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Speaker 1: it's further back than I've been alive, and I was

746
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Speaker 1: born in nineteen eighty five. So those are the rough

747
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 1: qualifications here. Here are the blue blozz in college football.

748
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Speaker 1: To me, Texas fits the mold, Oklahoma fits the mold.

749
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Speaker 2: That's it and what is today? The Big twelve?

750
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Speaker 1: USC is the only pack twelve team I'm putting on here.

751
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Speaker 1: There are only two SEC teams that I'm putting on here.

752
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: I think a lot of younger viewers are going to

753
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 1: be pretty surprised who B is. A is Alabama, no doubt,

754
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Speaker 1: B is the University of Tennessee. It's not Florida. Doesn't

755
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Speaker 1: go back the winning culture, the championships. They don't go

756
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: back far enough. Georgia, not enough championships. There's a consistent

757
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: good tradition there. There's not elite tradition back far enough.

758
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: Let me go back a long time. It's just it

759
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: hasn't been consistent. Who else would it be? LSU no

760
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 1: pre Saban, they were really nothing to write home about

761
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Speaker 1: for a long time. Who else would it be? So

762
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Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are going to be

763
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Speaker 1: bent out of shape. I know my audience, and I

764
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Speaker 1: can already look into the future and know what the

765
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Speaker 1: comments are going to say here. Auburn is going to

766
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Speaker 1: claim that they have a spot here. You are a

767
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Speaker 1: blue blood in the SEC. I don't think you're a

768
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Speaker 1: blue blood in college football. Surprisingly, Arkansas, if you take

769
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 1: the entire history of the program hasn't always been SEC.

770
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Speaker 1: They would have a fairly good argument here. But Tennessee

771
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Speaker 1: and Alabama are the only two SEC teams I put

772
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Speaker 1: in there. I put three from the Big ten. Those are,

773
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Speaker 1: of course, Ohio State, Michigan, and Penn State. Slammed up

774
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Speaker 1: Penn State's in here, and then I almost forgot because

775
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Speaker 1: I was going conference and I didn't think about independent.

776
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Speaker 1: But Notre Dame isn't there as well. So we came

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Speaker 1: up what was nine teams?

778
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Speaker 2: That's it?

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00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: Nine blue bloods I came up with in college football Texas, Oklahoma, USC, Bama, Tennessee, Michigan,

780
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Speaker 1: Ohio State, Penn State.

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: Sure where I left fifty off?

783
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Speaker 2: And I'm sure you're gonna let me know about it.

784
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Speaker 1: I can't wait all right now to end the show.

785
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Speaker 1: Ryan Begwood asked or Bedgood.

786
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Speaker 2: Excuse me, I want to get the names right.

787
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Speaker 1: Ryan. Bedgood asks a really good question here, because I

788
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: know where he's going. I think this could be an

789
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: effort to entrap me. But that's like trying to nail

790
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: Jello to the wall. Ryan, that's not going to work here.

791
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: Even though we're live. I don't think it's gonna work

792
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: since I he's talking to me. Since I am of

793
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: the four and no More mentality, that means I am

794
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Speaker 1: against college football playoff expansion. I love the four team model,

795
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: Love the urgency and the value that it puts on

796
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Speaker 1: the four seats.

797
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 2: At that table.

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Speaker 1: Love what it does with the regular season. It enshrines

799
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Speaker 1: it as the most important regular season in sports. We

800
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: can go down that road another time. We have like

801
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: fifty times already. Ryan asks, since you are of the

802
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 1: four and no More mentality, what would you think about

803
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 1: four super conferences essentially in college football, and then those

804
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: four conference champions being the four teams in the playoff

805
00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: in theory?

806
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Speaker 2: I know what we're doing here.

807
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: We are, I guess, reinvigorating the value of a conference championship,

808
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: and you are sort of enshrining the value of a

809
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,240
Speaker 1: conference championship while also maintaining the integrity of the regular

810
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: season through a four team playoff. But what I say

811
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Speaker 1: in the model that I've always liked is just taking

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Speaker 1: the best of the best.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe you know.

814
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: If I take this piece of paper right now and

815
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Speaker 1: I just draw quadrants on it, okay, it looks like

816
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: a game of four square, I don't know if you

817
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: can see that. And if you're listening to the podcast,

818
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: this means nothing to you. What about me drawing lines

819
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 1: on a map means anything when it comes to determining

820
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: who the best of the best is in the sport. Now,

821
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 1: I know you would push back and say, well, there's

822
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: no perfect way. So the best ways in an imperfect

823
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: world would be to let's have four equally divided conferences.

824
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Speaker 1: Let's take the conference champion out of each of those.

825
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Speaker 1: Because if you can't win your conference, how can you

826
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Speaker 1: claim to be the best team in America. That's not

827
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Speaker 1: what the playoff is. The playoff is not deciding the

828
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Speaker 1: best team in America. The playoff is deciding the best

829
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Speaker 1: four in America and then letting them play it out

830
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,439
Speaker 1: on the field to crown a champion. And if you're

831
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Speaker 1: telling me, for example, your argument for conference champs only

832
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 1: is well, if you can't be the best in your conference,

833
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: how could you be one of the best in America.

834
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Speaker 1: I always use the classroom analogy. Like if I were

835
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: to go into a school and I were to just

836
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: want to find the four smartest kids, what would we do?

837
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Speaker 1: We just find the four smartest kids. We wouldn't say

838
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: you can only take one kid per class, because there's

839
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: going to be an advanced placement class down here in

840
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: Wing three, room five, where like fifty eight percent of

841
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: the smartest kids in the school at any given time,

842
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 1: we're all in that classroom. How stupid would it be

843
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 1: of me to say, sorry, I know seven of you

844
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 1: have higher IQs than the rest of the school combined,

845
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: but we can only take one of you. I would

846
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: never do that. I just go find the best of

847
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: the best. And in college football, think of this radical analogy.

848
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Speaker 2: I always use this.

849
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: Now, this is fantasy, can't happen, but it just goes

850
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: to drive home a point.

851
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 2: If I were to take the who were San.

852
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers, Kansas City Chiefs, Let's just say

853
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: they decide we're done with the NFL, we want to

854
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: be in the Pac twelve South this next year, we

855
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: would say, before the season started, even though those two

856
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: teams would be favored by five touchdowns over whoever the

857
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: next best college football team is, we would say, before

858
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: we're even starting the season, a maximum of one of

859
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: you is good enough to make the college football playoff

860
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: because you both happen to be in the same division. Now,

861
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: if I changed nothing about any of those teams, but

862
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: picked one of them up and put them on another coast,

863
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: and magically they're in another conference, same coach, same roster,

864
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: same everything. It's just you're in a different point on

865
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Speaker 1: a map. All of a sudden you are good enough.

866
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: That makes no sense. So I like getting objective people

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Speaker 1: in a room, getting enough of them. It's not one person,

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Speaker 1: it's not an authoritarian just saying you're in, you're in,

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Speaker 1: you're in. It's also we're eliminating media bias because it's

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Speaker 1: not media guys and girls deciding. But you put some

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Speaker 1: qualified people in a room, you have checks and balances,

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Speaker 1: you have different criteria, and whoever meets them, whoever checks

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Speaker 1: the most boxes. Eyeball test included. I know you hate it,

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Speaker 1: but Eyeball tests included because wins and losses are not

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Speaker 1: equal in the sport of college football. Those are the

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Speaker 1: four teams that we're putting in. I'm happy enough with

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Speaker 1: that model. I for the record, believe Ryan, one day

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Speaker 1: we will arrive at the point where we have four

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Speaker 1: super conferences. To tell you what that would look like,

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Speaker 1: I think sixteen teams to a league. I think in

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Speaker 1: the next decade to two decades, maybe way sooner, maybe

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Speaker 1: closer to two decades from now, the SEC and ACC

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Speaker 1: will have merged into one sort of Leviathan. I think

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Speaker 1: the Big Ten as it is will just grow to

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Speaker 1: sixteen teams, and I think the PAC twelve and the

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Speaker 1: Big twelve, a combination.

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Speaker 2: Of those two conferences will form.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what what actually probably happens is the

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Speaker 1: SEC adds some teams, the ACC add some teams, the

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Speaker 1: and PAC twelve sort of merge, and those are your

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Speaker 1: four conferences. What happens to Notre Dame, What happens to

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Speaker 1: the teams in the combination of the Big twelve and

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Speaker 1: Pac twelve that they're in enough room for I don't know,

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Speaker 1: but I think that's where headed I think the dollars

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Speaker 1: alone tell you that's where we're headed. Everyone talks about

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Speaker 1: how we're headed for playoff expansion, that's not all we're

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Speaker 1: headed for. There's a lot in the way of conference

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Speaker 1: realignment that was really prevalent about eight or nine years ago,

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Speaker 1: and I sort of think that that's like a volcano erupting.

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Speaker 1: It's not dormant, it's still active. It's going to happen again.

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Speaker 1: Don't know exactly when, and don't know exactly what series

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Speaker 1: or chain of events could lead to that happening, but

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Speaker 1: it'll happen, trust me. What I'd love to happen, as

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Speaker 1: we in the show, is if you haven't already subscribed

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Speaker 1: was going to tell you something about the podcast. So

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Speaker 1: here it is. Last show, which was Thursday, and we're

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Speaker 1: live every Sunday and Thursday night at seven Eastern, seventh Central,

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Speaker 1: and eight eastern. I asked you because we have the

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Speaker 1: Late Kick podcast, and if you haven't already, five star

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Speaker 1: you did that last week. We appreciate that Late Kick

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Speaker 1: with Josh Pate anywhere you download your podcast if you're

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Speaker 1: Just click on it beneath and subscribe accordingly, I asked you.

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Speaker 1: And right now, all we do is we put the

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Speaker 1: audio version of the live shows in podcast form and

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Speaker 1: that's what you listen to.

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Speaker 2: But there's no bonus material.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing in the podcast feed that you couldn't get

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Speaker 1: on the YouTube feed. Now, I figure we got a

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Speaker 1: lot of free time now, and we got a long

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Speaker 1: time till the season starts. So I mean, I got

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Speaker 1: all the equipment in the world at the apartment. Why

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Speaker 1: not put the call out there and if there's an

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Speaker 1: audience for it, we'll record bonus content every week. So

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Speaker 1: I asked you. I thought i'd hear from about fifteen.

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Speaker 1: I heard from about one hundred and fifty of you that, yes, man,

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Speaker 1: we want it. Give it to us, Give it to us,

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Speaker 1: Give it to us. Now, it's obvious with over two

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Speaker 1: hundred of you watching right now live there's still very

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Speaker 1: much a thirst for college football. And I know that

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Speaker 1: because I know our audience as well as anyone. I

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Speaker 1: talk to you guys all the time throughout the week.

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Speaker 1: So that's what we're going to do. I can't tell

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Speaker 1: you definitively. We'll start it this week. I'm working with

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Speaker 1: our podcast guys. Tony really loved that I called him

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Speaker 1: a wizard on last show, so Tony podcast wizard.

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Speaker 2: Connor does a pretty darn good job too.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to work with them and work out whatever

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Speaker 1: the best scheduling is and whatever the best format is, etc.

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Speaker 1: But I'm going to get you some bonus content in

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Speaker 1: the podcast feed, So if you haven't already subscribed there,

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Speaker 1: it is the Late Kick with Josh Pap. I think

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Speaker 1: there are two of them.

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Speaker 2: They are duplicates right now.

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Speaker 1: We're going to wipen that out, but go ahead and

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Speaker 1: subscribe there and you'll eventually see it populate your feed.

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Speaker 1: So really appreciate it tonight. I got off the air

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Speaker 1: in less than forty five minutes and now we're.

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Speaker 2: Going to go watch a really, really good documentary.

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Speaker 1: We really appreciate all of the comments. And we will

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Speaker 1: eventually have football on the Horizon on a definitive date

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Speaker 1: on a schedule, and won't that be exciting. But until then,

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Speaker 1: I'm Josh Pap. This is the Late Kick for Colin

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Speaker 1: for Aaron, for everyone live, everyone watching and replay and listening.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you being here. We'll see you right back

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Speaker 1: the same time Thursday night. Have a great week.