1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Here's the snap looking them all diving for the pilot 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: that he's got it. Brazzle tele touch to the gu 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: stands and the Texans go in front. There is no 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: off season for your abuston Texans game day. He is 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: every day. We had a lot of energy and we 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: brought a lot of spark for this organization. Five nights 7 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: a week, they hits keep on coming out. The Texans 8 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: say they have it, and they do no, It's Texans, 9 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: all excess, good evening, Texans, welcome to the program. Mark 10 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: vandamaar with you tonight and we do it again. We're 11 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: out and about wherever we are in our homes broadcasting. 12 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: But how about tomorrow? Huh? How about the partial reopening? 13 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: Even though a lot of things have been open, but 14 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: not enough, not nearly enough. I don't know what you think, 15 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: but I think that we need to get to get 16 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: the cracked up a little bit right right, safely, safely, 17 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: distancing and such. But let's go right. It's Texas, baby, 18 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: this is what we do. And so many people need 19 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,639 Speaker 1: the shot in the arm, need to get back to work, 20 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: need to do it, never mind want to do it, 21 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: need to do it now. We need to be safe too, 22 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: So let's do that the best possible way. Some of 23 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: you are eye rolling me right now, like, well we 24 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: need to stay home. Well, easier said than done for 25 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: some right, let's let's everybody's got their own opinion on 26 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: this thing, but I think we all need to think 27 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: positively and the best possible thing is that, however, we 28 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: can do it safely, we get things cranked up like 29 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: tomorrow boom. I don't know about you, but I'm gonna 30 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: be at a restaurant this weekend, Yes, supporting a local restaurant, 31 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: and I don't know, you know, I might wash my 32 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: hands a little bit more than usual, Okay, but that's 33 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: just life as we're living in right now. Anyway, we 34 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: got the General John McClain with us, and I don't 35 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: know if he's up with yet. We're trying to get 36 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: him hooked up here. Jell, are you with us yet? 37 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: I was still working on the General. It's been a 38 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: Thursday night thing. What can I say? It's been a 39 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: third And we're gonna have Johnny Harris joining us too, 40 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: so don't forget about that. We'll have John Harris. We'll 41 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: talk about a few things that are in the news today, 42 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: and I want to hit on these things with the 43 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: general as well, like Andy Dalton getting released from the 44 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:27,839 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals. This is a huge story now we all 45 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 1: we all knew that the writing was on the wall, 46 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: of course after last season and Joe Burrow number one 47 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: overall pick and I get it. But let's look at 48 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton here for a moment, second round draft choice 49 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: twenty eleven as a rookie. You know, he's a big 50 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: part of the history of this organization because the first game, 51 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: the first time the Texans clinched a playoff berth and 52 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: a division title, it was against Andy Dalton and the 53 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: Bengals in Cincinnati. The first time the Texans ever won 54 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: a playoff game against Andy Dalton and the Cincinnati Bengals 55 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: RG Stadium. The second time they ever won a playoff 56 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 1: game against Andy Dalton and the Cincinnati Bengals at NRG Stadium, 57 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: the time they beat him on Monday Night Football, when 58 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: the Bengals were undefeated eight and oz at the time 59 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen and the Texans seemed to be going 60 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: nowhere at three and five, limped in and knocked off 61 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton and the Cincinnati Bengals ten to six. Dalton 62 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: has been part of some tremendous wins for this franchise. Now, 63 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: I know it sounds like Dalton bashing when I put 64 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 1: it that way. Look, the guy started off so well 65 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: with Cincinnati. They just couldn't get over the hump and 66 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: win a playoff game. Now the Texans are trying to 67 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: get over their own hump and make it to the 68 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: divisional round. And that's difficult. We all know that. I mean, 69 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: make it to the AFC championship game. They've made it 70 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: to the divisional round, thank you very much. You know, 71 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: when you're just talking on the radio, sometimes just thoughts 72 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: are flowing and synapses are trying to connect and all that. 73 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: The Texans are trying to get into the championship game, 74 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: super bowl level and have been to the divisional round 75 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: one playoff games. The Bengals not so much lately. This 76 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: is a team, a franchise that has been to two 77 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: Super Bowls. You know, kids today don't understand this that 78 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: the Bengals in the eighties were a hot property. Okay, 79 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: Ken Anderson in eighty one playing Joe Montana and the 80 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine ers in the Silver Dome and 81 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl Yeah, that's right. There had a Super 82 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: Bowl in Detroit and the forty nine ers won that 83 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: one and the forty nine ers won the second one 84 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: in which the Super Bowl was a matchup a little 85 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: bit later on in the eighties between the Bengals and 86 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: San Francisco and that was when Montana hit John Taylor 87 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: with that late touchdown. So McLean, I think, is going 88 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,119 Speaker 1: to call into the station. Go ahead, John, call into 89 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: the station and we'll do it that way. We're having 90 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 1: trouble getting the let's just call it the gizmo, the 91 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: gizmo hooked up. It's a radio gizmo and it's not 92 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: getting hooked up properly. So we'll do that on the 93 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: phone or however we can do it with John McClain. 94 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: But the Bengals were once proud franchise. As Dalton Katie 95 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: High School is a free agent and we're gonna hypothesize 96 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: where he could end up, and please not the Patriots. 97 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: I think he can really help that team. And if 98 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: you bring Andy Dalton in and you're in New England, 99 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: he does not have to start. This is one of 100 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: those quarterback free agents where he doesn't have to start. 101 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: You feel like if you're bringing Cam Newton, he's got 102 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: to start. You feel like you're bringing Jameis Winston. He 103 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: doesn't have to start, and he won't because he's gonna 104 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 1: be in New Orleans. With Andy Dalton, he doesn't have 105 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: to start either, But he's sort of a more seasoned, 106 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: much more experienced Ryan Tannehill. Maybe is it even that 107 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: much more experienced because Tannehill was a two thousand and 108 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: twelve draft choice in Dalton two eleven. But Andy's done 109 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: more in this league than Tannehill. Okay, and he's had 110 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: some winning campaigns. I mean, you know, Tannehill did some 111 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 1: things with the Dolphins a little bit, and the time 112 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: they made it to the playoffs, couldn't play because he 113 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: was injured and not his faults. I get it, but 114 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: Matt Moore had to start that game at Pittsburgh. Alton 115 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: ran off a bunch of playoff appearances with the Bengals, 116 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: but they could never win anyway. I just thought I'd 117 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: bring that up first because it stood out to me 118 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: it's relatively recent. There's other quarterback news, Brett Farve talking 119 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: about Aaron Rodgers and a lot of hypothesis there about 120 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: Farv having some insight into what Rogers is feeling and 121 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: feeling disrespected and all that. Let's get the general on, John. 122 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: Do we have the general on John McClean from the 123 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: Houston Chronicle, John, how are you doing? Still trying to 124 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: get them hooked up? All right? Our producer is gonna 125 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: work on it. Other things going on. We had a 126 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: great day today with Brandon Cooks. We had a press 127 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: conference today with Cooks. We had a season ticket members 128 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: conversation with Brandon Cooks, and Brandon's gonna be on the 129 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 1: show tomorrow. Brandon's gonna be on the show tomorrow. And 130 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: one theme that's run through all the interviews I've done 131 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 1: with the new guys is that they're terrific guys. Okay, 132 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: let's just not talk about football for the moment. Yet, 133 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: they are terrific guys. Randall Cobb was great, David Johnson 134 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: was great, Brandon Cooks terrific to talk to today. Really 135 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: enjoyed the conversation. So you're gonna get to hear some 136 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: of that tomorrow and night. And many of you have 137 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: seen and heard the soundbites and it's all up there 138 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: in Houston Texans dot Com, all our platforms. Brandon Cooks 139 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: of what he can do. You know, one question I 140 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: threw out to him about that twenty seventeen matchup between 141 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: the Texans and the Patriots in New England. The Texans 142 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: and the Patriots going toe to toe in New England 143 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: Week three, Deshaun Watson coming out party really offensively as 144 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: far as the skill set, the full display, because you 145 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: remember the first start was where at Cincinnati? How can 146 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: I leave that one out of the Texans Bengals history 147 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: when the Texans went there week two in twenty seventeen 148 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: and one on that Thursday night. Well, the very next 149 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: week they go to New England and Brandon Cooks makes 150 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: one of the catches that ripped my heart out in 151 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: Texans history, that late catch that beat Houston. When Tom 152 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: Brady found him Cooks as a goal and I brought 153 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: it up to him and he talked about I asked 154 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: him about, hey, were you guys on the sideline and 155 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: of Watson. I didn't word it that way, but it 156 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: was similar, and he said, no, we're just thinking about 157 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: scoring points. We knew he was going to put up 158 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: points and he was, so we were just thinking about 159 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: scoring more points. It was the perfect answer, really, I mean, 160 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: he totally loves the idea of playing with Watson, but 161 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: you got the feeling like, hey, he's team, he's focused, 162 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: he's offense, and that's all he was thinking about on 163 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: that afternoon. Let's think about John McClain right now joining 164 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: us on Texans Radio General. Welcome to the program. Great 165 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: to have you on. How are you doing, my friend? 166 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: I'm doing great, Mark, How are you doing well? All right, 167 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: so let's talk about this draft because you and I 168 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: have not had a chance to chat about it yet. 169 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: I know you've been on a few times, but different 170 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: audience here. We are Texans All Access. We just did 171 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: a big digital TV show on it. What is your 172 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: overall feeling on What they were able to accomplish last 173 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: weekend and went into the draft was seven bigs, came 174 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: out with five, got an extra fourth round, an extra 175 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: sixth round pick next year, even though they don't have 176 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: him one in the two next year. The right now, 177 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 1: they have I think at eight draft choices, and if 178 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 1: everything goes according to plan, they'll get a three for 179 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: DJ Reader as a compensatory pick, like they did Tyrn 180 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: Matthew this year. You know, Bill O'Brien ended up trading 181 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: trading all of his compensatory picks, and I'm glad he 182 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: did because the draft last was not as long and 183 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: Ross Blacklock I'd wrote a column last the week before 184 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: Mark with players I'd like to see the Texans get, 185 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: and he was number one, and I said he won't 186 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: be there. He's going in the first round. In eleven 187 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: of my twelve Mark drafts, the last eleven I had 188 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: him going in the first round. So I never even 189 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: considered him coming because he's just what they needed. They 190 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: needed to improve the pass rush with an interior rusher. 191 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: He's not a two gap nos tackle, that's what he 192 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: had was asked to do a lot at TCU. He 193 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: is a one gap. He is a it shoots a 194 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: gap and because of his quickness and his explosiveness and 195 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: he works hard, and then the fact that he'll be 196 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: two years removed from surgery to repair to kill tending, 197 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: that will should be even better. It's an ideal situation 198 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: for Ross Blacklocke and then Johnathan Grenard. You know, they 199 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: had a trade with Detroit that fell through and they 200 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: got Grenard. And one of the things I like about 201 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: Grenard is he led to sec in Saxon tackles for laws. 202 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: And a friend of mine who has worked with three 203 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: teams and went to Florida and watch his every Florida 204 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 1: game send me a text immediately after that Pig saying, 205 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: you guys are gonna love Grenard. He plays hard, he's smart, 206 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: he said, he's tough, He's got a great work I think. 207 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 1: And this is a guy who usually complains about his 208 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: alma mater all the time, so I'm fired up about him. 209 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: John read a good slot corner should be or dynamite 210 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: specialty guy. You know, they really improved the special teams 211 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: with Michael Thomas, who's one of the best in the NFL, 212 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: and Charlie Heck trading up to get him. That's an 213 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: example mark of they don't want to have to call 214 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: a guy like they did Chris Clark off his sofa 215 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: and bring him in and try to get him ready 216 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: to play. When somebody liked Titus, Howard's injured, so I 217 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: thought I liked that pick too. And then the last 218 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: one I remember isaid culture from the combine, everybody talking 219 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: about him six two, one, eight four or four five 220 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: coming from Rhode Island. He had a great game against 221 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: Virginia Tech last season, and that guy everybody's attention. And 222 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: I'm sure Bill O'Brien looked back at his alma mater, 223 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: Brown and saw how culture just abused Brown University. Yeah, 224 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: and I was having a little fun with Bill O'Brien 225 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: and John Harris about the helmets. U r I's helmets 226 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: are just so sweet, those ram helmets. But I think 227 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: culture is interesting. You never know how good an FCS 228 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 1: guy can be, right, because, yeah, all right, the level 229 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: of competition is there. You mentioned Virginia Tech. That was 230 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: a good game for him, So you really don't know 231 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: what the ceiling is and that makes it kind of exciting. 232 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: But what about the thickness the depth at the wide 233 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: receiver position group? John, It's gonna be hard to make 234 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: the team there. You know, maybe injuries quote solve the problem. 235 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: Maybe there's some other development that we don't know about, 236 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: but that looks like a pretty deep group right now. 237 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: It won't surprise me if O'Brien doesn't trade a receiver 238 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: for pick next year, because he's got like ten of them. 239 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: The problem with Coulter is the problem with all these rookies. 240 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: They do not have on field coaching. They don't have 241 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: a rookie minicamp of veteran minicamp OTAs. It would be 242 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: so unfair if we start hearing people blast rookies because 243 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: they don't play well over the first half of the season. 244 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: And in Coulter's plays, he's the first guy drafted from 245 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: Rhode Islands Ince eighty six, and asking him to come 246 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: in and make a contribution as a rookie would be unfair. 247 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: If he does, that's great, But under these circumstances, and 248 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: as Bill O'Brien said, just a veteran type year, and 249 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: it is because it's easier for these veterans to do 250 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: a virtual offseason program than it is rookies. But if 251 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 1: I'm a texting fan, I'm excited about these guys and 252 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: the possibilities. And the problem is we don't get to 253 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: see him on the field for quite a while. You know, 254 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 1: it's gonna be difficult. John, Let's say, and I have 255 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: no inside info here, but the way the season is 256 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: going to be constructed is certainly up to speculation right 257 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 1: now with what is going on in our world, and 258 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: that if the preseason slate is cut short for whatever reason, 259 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: you're not gonna get from the outside in a great 260 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: look at the rookies, and even from the inside, you're 261 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: not going to get it as long a look at 262 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: the rookies as you normally would. That means you're going 263 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: to have to cut some rookies that might have some 264 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: more promise than you were able to discover. Other teams 265 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: could pounce on that you could pounce on theirs. That 266 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: part of it is going to be fun, well not 267 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: fun maybe, but interesting to watch. Let's just put it 268 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: that way. Even though everybody being the same boat, I 269 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 1: don't think it's fair to the players, the rookies, the 270 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: undrafted free agents, all those guys that didn't get a 271 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,479 Speaker 1: pro game, those guys that didn't work out the combine 272 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: for whether they did it just to look better at 273 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: their Pro day or because they were injured. And there 274 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: were a lot of them in that boat, so I believe. 275 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: And there's plans for sixteen fourteen twelve game schedule. You know, 276 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: the NFL could start in the middle of October if 277 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: they wanted, They could play the Super Bowl and March 278 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: or April they wanted. Why couldn't they. It's you know, 279 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: you've got to find Tampa. Raymond James Stadium in Tampa 280 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: has got to make sure there's no other events, and 281 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: they could get hotels and all that. And you know, 282 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: I've talked before Mark about covering the season in eighty 283 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: nine where there were nine games because of a players strike. 284 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: The practice squads go up and under the new CBN, 285 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: I think if everything's delayed and you don't have an 286 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: off season program and they cut the preseason back two games, 287 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: I think you should increase the roster and allow them 288 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: to keep more or don't sign anybody off anybody's practice 289 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: squad for the first half of the year. But it 290 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: just seems that they need to do something because it's 291 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: so unfair to young players, and not just the young guys, 292 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: but the guys on the practice squads last year. Guys 293 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: like they were hurt last year and missed the season, 294 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: but they got contingencies for everything. Mark, and I think 295 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: unlike baseball and basketball they got the lugs, and hockey 296 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: they got the lugs, and well, hockey could push it 297 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: back as long as the NHL wanted to, But I 298 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: think that I think that they think they're gonna have 299 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: training camp in August and then they'll start the season 300 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: in September after Labor Day. They just don't know if 301 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: it's right after labor day or two weeks or three 302 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: weeks after labor day. And another thing we have to 303 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: worry about, according to every expert, is we could have 304 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: another outbreak of the coronavirus because of people getting back 305 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: together and not doing what they're supposed to do with 306 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: social distancing and wearing masks. That could be a problem. John, 307 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: As you say what you say about options and different 308 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: directions they could go in and playing the season, do 309 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: you feel like fans or no fans or scaling back 310 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: and scaling back up? What are you thinking about audience 311 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: participation this fall. I think when detections come back, we 312 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: in the media will not be there. I think fans 313 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: will not be there for the offseason program or I 314 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: mean I mean for training camp or preseason, and I 315 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: think we'll be doing a lot more zoom conference calls 316 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: with Bill O'Brien and players, and hopefully when the season starts, 317 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: you know, say they moved, Do they want to start 318 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: it on time with no fans? I don't think so. 319 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: Fans are a big part of the income. TV's the 320 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: biggest part, of course, And so if you could move 321 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: the start of the season back to October and give 322 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: them May, June, July, August, and September. That's five more 323 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: months and maybe you could get the fans back then. 324 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: What I feel bad for is college football because they 325 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: say if students are not back, can't be bringing back 326 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: to football players. But they rely so heavily on football 327 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: for a big part of their income and bud. In 328 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: the NFL, I think that they'll get it in at 329 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: least a minimum of twelve a maximum of sixteen, possibly fourteen. 330 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: And only plan I've seen so far as moving the 331 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 1: Super Bowl back to the end of February and missing 332 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 1: out on the bye week and the Pro Bowl, which 333 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: of course would be devastating, and playing it then, but 334 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be opposed it off. It didn't move the 335 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 1: thing back in the March to get a whole season 336 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: in with fans. John, what did you in from the 337 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks conversation today with the media? I knew he 338 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: was a good talker. I follow his career. I have 339 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: talked to a lot of people. Something I want to 340 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: part out point out. People go, oh, well, he's been traded. 341 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: He's been traded so many times. Well, let's point out 342 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: here exactly why he was traded. He was with the Saints, 343 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: who draft him in the first round. He played with 344 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: Kenny Stills. He did a great job well. When it 345 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 1: came time for them to pick in the draft in 346 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, they wanted Wisconsin right tackle Ryan Ramchack. New 347 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: England offered a number one pick. They trade him to 348 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: the Patriots. They drafted Ramchack. He's one of the best 349 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: right tackles in the NFL. So he goes to New England, 350 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: has a great season, helps him go to the the Super 351 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: Bowl and lose to Philadelphia, and then the Patriots don't 352 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: want to pay big contract. You know how the Patriots 353 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: are when it comes big contracts, So they trade him 354 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: to the Rams for number one pick in the Ram 355 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: give him the big contract. So he's under contract to 356 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: two twenty three. Only makes eight million this year, so 357 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: contract is not an issue with him. And everywhere he's 358 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: been he's played really well except last season. And then 359 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: he said the concussions. I asked him about the concussions. 360 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: He said, you know, he feels great, he's ready to 361 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: play the football and he only missed two games last 362 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: season with a concussion. I didn't get a chance to 363 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: ask him well, if he got these well documented concussion issues, 364 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: how do you only missed two games? So he's vowed 365 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: to bounce back. He gets to play with Deshaun Watson 366 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: opposite Will Fuller. They got some big time speed. They 367 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: want to put it on the field at the same time. 368 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: Fuller ran four three two, He ran four three three, 369 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: Stills ran four three eight, and those guys, if they 370 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: were on the field at the same time with Randall Cobb, 371 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: they could put some strikes, some fair into some corners 372 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,719 Speaker 1: and safeties. One of those concussions he got in London 373 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: last year, so that helped. Having the bye week afterwards 374 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: so he didn't have to miss a game the following 375 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: week following that London clash. John Andy Dalton is a 376 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: free agent. Where does he go? Hey, right quick, let 377 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: me say one more thing about Cooks. In two trials 378 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: and fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, and eighteen, he averaged seventy seven 379 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: catches one thousand, one hundred forty nine yards since fourteen 380 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: point ninety catch in seven touchdowns. That was his average. 381 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: And then last year, dealing with those concussion issues, he 382 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: had forty two pass catches and two touchdowns. Both career lows, 383 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,880 Speaker 1: so he only turns He turns twenty seven in September. 384 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: It's weird how the kid came out at twenty from 385 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: Oregon State. You know, if these days healthy, he could play, 386 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: you know, twelve thirteen years and still be young. So 387 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: I'm fired up about watching him play and see what 388 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: kind of speed he gives Watson opposite Fuller, and seeing 389 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: if those guys can finally stay healthy. As far as Dalton, 390 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: New England has always seemed like such a nice fit. 391 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: Maybe Bill Belichick knew they weren't going to keep if 392 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: everybody knew he was gone, it's just a matter of win. 393 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: So maybe that's why Belichick did not draft a quarterback 394 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: that he'll have him coming in there behind Jared Stidham, 395 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: with Brian Warrior and people speculating about Cam Newton and 396 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: so Dalton that's a good spot for him. I think 397 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh would Ben Roethlisberger coming back at thirty eight having 398 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: injury issues, that would be a good spot for him. 399 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: Whoever gets Andy Dalton and be getting one of the 400 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: all time class acts who did take since the day 401 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: the playoffs five years in a row, since the name 402 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: playoffs in the same sentence seems unreal right now, but 403 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: the red rifle from Katie did do that five years 404 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: in a row. Great point. John, Hey, John, thanks so 405 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 1: much for joining us. What do you have going ont 406 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: of the Chronicle for us? Well, I have cooks for tomorrow. 407 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: On Sunday, I'm writing a thing about state of the Texans, 408 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 1: where they are after the early after free agency and 409 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: the draft and what they still need to do. Aaron Wilson, 410 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: I got two podcasts on Texas Sports Nation. Have a 411 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: mailbag be posted in the morning, and thank you very much. Mark. 412 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 1: I'm glad you're safe and it now or just hope 413 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: everybody does what they're supposed to do, absolutely general, Thanks 414 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: for joining us. John McClain from the Houston Chronicle coming up, 415 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 1: John Harris will play more Likely to Happen. 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You and I just were on digital television together. 501 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: I don't even know what the call that when we 502 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: do one of those, and I love it. It's digital TV. 503 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 1: We're on Facebook, Twitter, snap Face, Spacebook, the website, wherever 504 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: you can find us, We're there. I did that with you. 505 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 1: I did a story time with Toro today on Instagram. 506 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: That's fantastic. That's still up there on Toro's page. I 507 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: gotta watch it to see how that came out, because 508 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: I had no idea if that was clicking or not 509 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: with the viewing public. So I'll take a look at that. 510 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: But but yeah, we'll see how that worked out. Anyway. 511 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: We have a lot to discuss, don't we a lot 512 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: to discuss? We do. If I'm a little spacey, it's 513 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: just because I'm watching Michael Pittman of USC catch passes 514 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: over and above one of the best secondaries in the 515 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: country Utah, and thinking about what he's gonna do with 516 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: the Innapolis Colts this year, and I'm gonna throw up. Yeah, 517 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw up. And then Jonathan Taylor in the backfield, Yeah, 518 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw up. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm actually now 519 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: looking at Michael Pittman. I'm looking at a junior guard 520 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: who is a very good player for USC and a 521 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: couple of junior receivers. But just so happened to see 522 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: Michael Pittman go up over the safety that they drafted, 523 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: Julian Blackman, catch the ball and then run away from 524 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: everybody for the end zone. So yeah, Michael Pittman's gonna 525 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: be a problem. Does we're about to play more likely 526 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: to happen here? And I could have made this a question, 527 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: but does Philip Rivers in Indian based on what you 528 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: just said about their additions and the draft, does that 529 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: make them more attractive for primetime games this year? And 530 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: maybe not the draft choices so much, but Rivers himself 531 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: or is it just gonna be like a couple for 532 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: the Colts. I think it's gonna be just a couple, 533 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: But I think he I think it's gonna be just 534 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: a couple because I don't know that Philip did anything 535 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: at the end of the year where you go, oh, man, 536 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 1: if he goes to the Colts, look out. I think 537 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: there are some questions about about Philip the player, now, 538 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: you know, going into a room where he's got Kobe 539 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: Brisset there and then he's got jacobieson. You know, I 540 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: would imagine as a as a mentor, he's got some 541 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: young dudes to work with a little bit. And I 542 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: think the Colts are pretty excited about that. I in 543 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: fact watched there behind the scenes draft sort of thing 544 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: called with the Next Pick, and yeah, I want to 545 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: throw up when I watched that too, And no, it 546 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: makes every pick for the Colts sound like he's going 547 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: to the super Bowl and going to the Hall of Fame. 548 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 1: I mean, and it's just like, come on, man, but 549 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: those two top picks Pittman, Pittman and Taylors, Yeah, that's 550 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: pretty good. So I gotta yetta tell you this quick 551 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: story as a change of Jonathan Taylor. So I gotta 552 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: I gotta text from a buddy of mine on after 553 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: the Night one and he said, who are the best 554 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,959 Speaker 1: running backs on the board? And I didn't even think 555 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: about it. I was just I mean, on my board 556 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: it was Jona Taylor and the was DeAndre Swift. And 557 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: so then I just was doing it really fast because 558 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: I think we were still on the air at that time, 559 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: and I just want to Taylor period, Swift, period. And 560 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: I sent it off and then he sent me like 561 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: a YouTube link back and with Taylor Swift song, and 562 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: I was like, why did he just do? Oh my god, 563 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: I see what I just did. I didn't even put 564 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: it together that. I just told him that Taylor Swift 565 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: was the best run back remaining on the board at 566 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: that point. But um, that is crazy. I didn't even 567 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: think about that. I was walked right into it, I did. 568 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: I walked right into it. Yeah, walked right in. Did 569 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: you see that documentary and her by the way, Oh, 570 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: it's fantastic, it is brilliant. It's really good. Oh. We've 571 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: tried to get my daughter. My daughter. My daughter when 572 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: she was growing up was a huge Taylor Swift fan. 573 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: And then completely with the other direction, which I guess 574 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: the teenage girls are wont to do. And we Paige 575 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: and I just one night watched that. When you know 576 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: before coronavirus hit May was out with friends and I 577 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: think you're staying at night at somewhere else's house. We 578 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: were just we're blown away. We loved it. It was fantastic. 579 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: I always knew she was talented, and uh, and then 580 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: you really see it in that in that video in 581 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: that documentary. All right, let's play more likely to happen. 582 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: We'll have the first one. All right, let's go right 583 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: to it. Johnny. The number, the touchdown past number thirty 584 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: touchdowns Texans have never reached it, more likely to happen 585 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: under thirty or thirty and over twenty twenty. I'm going 586 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: gotta do it. Mark, it's going it's going to happen. Now, Okay, 587 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: let's pull a caveat that. The sixteen game average. On 588 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: a sixteen game average, you know, if we played sixteen games, 589 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: then it would be thirty or more. Yes, well, in 590 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: the six games he started in twenty seventeen, had that 591 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: been an average, right, he would have had a lot, right, 592 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: because boy, oh, that would have been fun. It would 593 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: have been wait, I can figure that I could actually 594 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: he had nineteen all righted, by geez, you figured that 595 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: out so fast? Well, No, I had to calculator with me. 596 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: All right, So fifty point six touchdown passes that year 597 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: based on that six game sample of six starts, and 598 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: he didn't even throw one in one of the games. 599 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: That's wild. Oh man, in the start of Cincinnati didn't 600 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: even throw a touchdown passing that game right for one. Right, 601 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: that's oh my gosh. Can you imagine. Okay, so you're 602 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: saying I'm good as happening, I'm saying it's happening. I 603 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: think there are enough weapons, uh to get into the 604 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: end zone, whether it's long balls, whether it's down in 605 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: the red zone. I just feel like there there's an 606 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: opportunity there for it finally, finally, finally to happen. And 607 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: I do think that with improved offenses in the AFC South, 608 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: there is an opportunity. And you play some teams like 609 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 1: Baltimore in Kansas City, you know, there's an opportunity to 610 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: have some shootouts where you're gonna need to throw three, four, 611 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: maybe even five in a game to stay in a 612 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: game or to overtake a team in a game. So, yeah, 613 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: I'm thinking this is the year, this is this is 614 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: that year. Yeah. See, I look at this receiving crew 615 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: and you know, I know, look, I get it about 616 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: hop but you know you you added two guys to Fuller. Like, 617 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: there's a lot of ifs here, Okay, and that's all sports. 618 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: But if Fuller, Cobb and Cooks stay healthy the majority 619 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: of the season, this is gonna be really fun to watch. 620 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: This is gonna be really fun to watch. Yeah. But 621 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 1: on the flip side of that too is who led 622 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 1: the Texans and touchdown receptions last year? Fells? Thank you? 623 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: I mean, you know you've got the guy who wasn't 624 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 1: supposed to catch anything led them in TD receptions? Yeah 625 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: right right? Tackle Yeah, Okay, Well, let's get to the 626 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 1: next one likely to happen. Andy Dalton is a free agent, 627 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: so more likely to be his final destination or next 628 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: destination I should say Jacksonville, New England, or the field Jacksonville, 629 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 1: New England, or anybody else for Andy Dalton's next team. 630 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,279 Speaker 1: I get just what I've read about New England. It 631 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 1: just feels like they are gonna roll with Stidham. I 632 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: feel like Andy Dalton would be a really good fit 633 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,399 Speaker 1: for New England, but it just sounds like they want 634 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,720 Speaker 1: to roll with Jared Stidham and maybe they go Jared 635 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 1: Stidham and then bringing Dalton is the backup, but that 636 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,320 Speaker 1: the experiment won't last very long. I don't. I don't think, 637 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: but they it sounds like they like Stament. Look, there's 638 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:15,240 Speaker 1: must be clear. Jared Stidham's got a load of ability, 639 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: a ton of ability, but he's just never done it before. 640 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: Jacksonville will make a lot of sense for Andy Dalton. 641 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: I think with Jay Gruden, who I believe was the 642 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,399 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator in Cincinnati before he went to Washington, so 643 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: I believe he knows Andy, I think that might end 644 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: up being a really good fit for him. Do you 645 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,839 Speaker 1: think me, Andy Dalton? With they got Chark now, who 646 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 1: has you know, become one of the better receivers in 647 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: the AFCUM. You know, you don't know what's gonna happen 648 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: with Fournette, but you got Dede Westbrook. They also added 649 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 1: Levisca Chennault as a receiver slash weapon X sort of 650 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: offensive player down there. Who's the offensive coordinator, Johnny, That's 651 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,959 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Jake Gruten. Yeah, Jake Gruten who coached 652 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: him in since I believe, with Cincinnati for a couple 653 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: of years. Yeah, before Hugh Jackson took over. I think 654 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 1: Jacksonville makes the most sense, So I would have to 655 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: say Jacksonville or New England. I think it's one of 656 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: those two. Okay, I think Jacksonville would be would be 657 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,879 Speaker 1: the best for him really in New England probably would 658 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: be the best if they really committed to him. But 659 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: here's the thing about Stidham though this league. To win 660 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,359 Speaker 1: games consistently in this league, you have to be there 661 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,439 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter and make those key throws, whether 662 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: it's to get a first down to kill clock, or 663 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: make a big play to get into field goal range, 664 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: or make a big play to score, whatever the situation 665 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 1: may be. And it's a lot to ask of most rookies. 666 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 1: And I know he's not a rookie, but let's face 667 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 1: he hasn't played, so he's he's a first time player, 668 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: and that's a lot to ask. I mean, the amount 669 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 1: of big plays, and sometimes the big players are a 670 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: six yard pass for a first down. The amount of 671 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: big plays you have to make consistently, it's voluminous. So 672 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,439 Speaker 1: good luck with that and it'll be really Look, there's 673 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 1: so many interesting things. There's so any compelling things about 674 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: twenty twenty and New England's handling of the post, the 675 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: initial handling of the post Brady era is certainly one 676 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,359 Speaker 1: of those stories. All right, let's get to the next 677 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 1: one here, more likely to happen, all right, more likely 678 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: to be second in sacks on the Houston Texans, because 679 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna assume Wat's gonna be first if he's healthy. 680 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 1: If Wat's healthy, he leads the team in sacks. Correct, correct, 681 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:27,320 Speaker 1: All right? So is it Whitney or anybody else? Whitney 682 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,359 Speaker 1: or anybody else second in sacks on the Texans. Boy, 683 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 1: this is real next level stuff. This is real Esoteret stuff. 684 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 1: They're not you know what. They didn't do this question 685 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: today on Around the Horn or any of those national 686 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: shows like Skip Bayliss didn't talk about this very thing. 687 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 1: This is a Texans radio thing right here, if I 688 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: ever saw one. Well, the thing about it is, it's 689 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: a it's a valid question, it's a valid concern. And 690 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 1: my instant reaction is the is Whitney? And then I 691 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:06,239 Speaker 1: start thinking about it. Okay, Well, WIT's probably gonna see 692 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: his shaff chips and different things. Jacob Martin in the 693 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: short amount of time that he got reps and his 694 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,240 Speaker 1: reps started increasing and he got more productive with those 695 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,200 Speaker 1: I think getting comfortable in this scheme and his second 696 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: year being around knowing what his role is. I think 697 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: Jacob Martin has definitely got to watch. I think Chuck 698 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 1: a manahu is gonna be a guy to watch because 699 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna get increased past rush reps. However, 700 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be Whitney. When JJ was on 701 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,760 Speaker 1: the field early on last year, the first eight games, 702 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 1: Whitney was a house of fire. I mean he was 703 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: creating striped sacks, he was winning his one on one battles. 704 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 1: And then when JJ went out, then Whitney obviously started 705 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 1: seeing some of those double teams. He started seeing some 706 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 1: of those edge chips and things like that. So I 707 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 1: think what JJ staying healthy, I think Whitney is probably 708 00:38:56,120 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 1: the biggest beneficiary of that. However, what it's surprised me 709 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 1: if Chuck a minna who racked up a decent number 710 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 1: of sacks, if Jacob Martin racked up some sacks as well, 711 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,360 Speaker 1: to be in that mix, No, not at all. It 712 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:15,040 Speaker 1: really would, especially Jacob, because there is flat out speed, 713 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 1: I mean speed coming from that guy, unlike we have 714 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,399 Speaker 1: seen on a field for the Texans for a long time. 715 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna roll with Whitney as being that guy number two. 716 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: But I think that Jacob Martin and Chuck a manner 717 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 1: who are probably gonna be a little bit closer than 718 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 1: maybe even we think at this point. I think they're 719 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 1: gonna be writing that mix for a while. But I 720 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 1: think i'd like to see JJ fully healthy. Thirteen fourteen 721 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 1: sacks would be fantastic. I don't think that's too much 722 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: to ask, because when he's been on the field for 723 00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,760 Speaker 1: sixteen games, that's a number he's gotten to or gotten close. 724 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 1: I think Wick can get the double digits with ten, 725 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: ten and a half. I think there'd be a fantastic 726 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,280 Speaker 1: That would be a fantastic start, because I think Chuck 727 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: and Jacob are gonna be pushing that double digit number 728 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: as well, given the opportunity to face some of the 729 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: quarterbacks will face this year. Okay, I got one more 730 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,319 Speaker 1: for you here. More likely to happen, all right, More 731 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 1: likely to win the NFC North. Now that there is 732 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: some drama in Green Bay with the drafting of Jordan 733 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: Love and Brett Farves saying that Aaron Rodgers feels disrespected 734 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 1: and all of it now? Remember more likely to be 735 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 1: the winner green Bay or Minnesota? Remember what happened late 736 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,399 Speaker 1: last year? I mean people look at well, green Bay 737 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: won it, so they should win it again. Thirteen and three, 738 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 1: let's go Minnesota had that huge game I think it 739 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: was the second last week of the season against the 740 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 1: Packers at home and blew it. Did not win the game. 741 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 1: And who's to say that they can't overcome that Kubiak 742 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 1: running the offense? Now does Minnesota take that? It's not 743 00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,640 Speaker 1: a big step. It's a relatively small step forward to 744 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 1: be able to win a game like that that would 745 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 1: have won the division. But green Bay got it. With 746 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: green Bay's unrest and Minnesota possibly getting a little bit 747 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,959 Speaker 1: better or at least being able to handle that situation better, 748 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: who's the more likely division winner? Regardless of whether Jordan 749 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,320 Speaker 1: Love was drafted or not. I would have said the Vikings. 750 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 1: I just felt like last year that the Vikings overall 751 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 1: talent level was better than the Packers except at one 752 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 1: main position, and that was at quarterback. To the Packers 753 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: had Aaron Rodgers and the Vikings didn't. Now, Kirk Cousins 754 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 1: did play better as the year war on. As we 755 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: talked to Paul Allen. We talked about that the other night. 756 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: But I just feel like the Vikings, justin Jefferson jeff 757 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: Gladden the first round really really, you know, closed up holes. 758 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,280 Speaker 1: I think Stefon Diggs, I think that issue was probably 759 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 1: a little bit more nuance than maybe any of us know. 760 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: And now he's out of the building, so you bring 761 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: in Jefferson to replace him. Glad he goes over to corner. 762 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 1: I just think that defense still has got some juice 763 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: left for Minnesota. I think that Kirk Cousins, this is 764 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 1: the final step to take and that is when the 765 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 1: vision and I think that I think Minnesota is gonna 766 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 1: do it. I do think that green Bay will take 767 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: a little slight step back. I just overall, I didn't 768 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: think it last year, and I don't think it this year. 769 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,479 Speaker 1: I don't know that green Bay is wildly talented. Yeah, 770 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 1: Rogers devote Adams Aaron Jones, okay, but they lost blog 771 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 1: at right tackle, and I don't think they found a 772 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 1: true a true replacement, and they didn't draft the young guy. Defensively, 773 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 1: I think they've got some issues still a linebacker. I 774 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: think the secondary is okay, and they've got two really 775 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,879 Speaker 1: good ad dressers. But I don't know overall that. I 776 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,759 Speaker 1: see it just complete top the bottom, Like, Okay, that's 777 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 1: a talented roster. I don't see that whatsoever. I think 778 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 1: Minnesota's rosters got much better talent. And I'm gonna roll 779 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,399 Speaker 1: at Kirk Cousins. I can't believe I just said that. Mark, 780 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,760 Speaker 1: I cannot Yeah, you're the only one. Now, I'm just kidding. 781 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 1: I can't believe. I can't believe I'm saying it. But 782 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna roll at Kirk Cousins on this one. Yeah, 783 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 1: I mean they're rolling with them because they're paying him 784 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,719 Speaker 1: a lot of money, all right. Next up, the NBA's 785 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 1: wacky idea to finish their seat and what a version 786 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,720 Speaker 1: of that work for the NFL if necessary. We'll discuss 787 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,760 Speaker 1: that and anything else that comes along as we approach 788 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:14,479 Speaker 1: the close of business tonight. It's Texans All Access. Can't 789 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 1: get enough Texans Radio. We've got shows, we've got podcasts, 790 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:26,880 Speaker 1: we've got interviews. 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