1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: I don't know about you guys at home, but it 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: feels like we live in two different Americas. You watch 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris's version of events of the country, you look 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: at their belief system, the belief system of Tim Walls, 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: the even just the mere fact of allowing Minneapolis to 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: burn to the ground, and then Kamala Harris coming in 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,080 Speaker 1: and encouraging people to bail out rioters. That's just something 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: as Republicans we can't wrap our heads around. So how 9 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: did we end up here? I want to have someone 10 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: on the show today who works at a network that 11 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: I think most people could agree Lean's left to me. 12 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: He's one of the lone voices of reason at the network. 13 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: His commentary Rightfully So has really garnered a lot of 14 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: attention to date. I mean, he's always been an excellent commentator. 15 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: He's been there since twenty seventeen. I met him forever ago. 16 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: It's finally just getting the attention it deserves. I'm sure 17 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: you've seen some of his clips commentary like this. 18 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: I think the idea that you could run an entie 19 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: your presidential campaign based on the idea of vote for 20 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: me to find out what's in it. 21 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 3: Wait a minute, America. 22 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 4: You have to trust the pilot of the plane in 23 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 4: the first place. And the problem right now is that 24 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 4: Donald Trump is not a trustworthy pilot. And what these 25 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 4: guys are winning, they're winning the babysitter contest. 26 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 5: Who do you want? 27 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 3: Whose values? 28 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 4: Do you want to be in charge of the plane 29 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 4: before we get where we're going? And I think, and 30 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 4: I think you're getting smoked on that, and I think, 31 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 4: my brother. 32 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 2: My brother, I have to tell you, please, the current 33 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 2: pilot of the plane, it's Kamala Harris. Donald Trump is 34 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: not the pilot. 35 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: Just nails it on CNN, you know, bringing a Republican side, 36 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: bringing a you know, more pro Trump side. And his 37 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: role is so important because there's a lot of people 38 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: watching Sanna that don't hear that side of the argument, 39 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: that don't know about that side of the equation. And 40 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: we have a consequential election and in front of us, 41 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: so it is paramount. It is imperative that Americans hear 42 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: from him. So Scott is someone who's been around politics 43 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: for a really long time. I mean he's worked on 44 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: four different presidential campaigns, numerous US Senate races, congressional, state, local, 45 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: you name it. He is the founding partner of run 46 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: Switch as well. He also has a podcast called Flyover Country. 47 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: We're going to dig into all of it. He went 48 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: to the Republican National Convention also the Democratic National Convention. 49 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: We're going to talk to him about the side by 50 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: side these two different americas we live in. We'll talk 51 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: about the state of the twenty twenty four presidential race. 52 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: Where do things stand now and where does Flyover Country 53 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 1: stand with this race. I can tell you that I've 54 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: interviewed a lot of interesting people. I've been very blessed 55 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: to interview a lot of really interesting people, and I 56 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: will tell you this is one of my favorite interviews 57 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: I've done today, and I think you're going to feel 58 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: the same way. Stay tuned for my friend Scott Jennings, 59 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: a brilliant guy, CNN commentator, podcast Flyover Country. You're going 60 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: to want to tune into both of those things, and 61 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: he's on Stay tuned for Scott Jennings. Well, Scott Jennings, 62 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: it's great to have you on the show, my friend. 63 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: You've been crushing it lately and it is fun to watch. 64 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 5: Well, Lisa, it's great to hear your voice and be 65 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 5: with you again. I've enjoyed watching your rise and I 66 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 5: was honored to be asked, and it's fun to be 67 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 5: covering this presidential election together. So looking forward to this conversation. 68 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: Today, Well, you've been in politics for a long time, 69 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: You've been a contributor at CNN since twenty seventeen, but 70 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: you've just been killing the game lately. Every comment is 71 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: just so spot on. You really are kind of a 72 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: lone voice of Stanity over there, if I say that kindly. 73 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 5: So, yeah, it's been interesting because, as you pointed out, 74 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 5: I've been there for over seven years and it's just 75 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 5: now though, I think an election, and this election is 76 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 5: different than twenty twenty because as you remember, you know, 77 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 5: there wasn't really a campaign, right, you know, we were 78 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 5: all stuck in our houses. Everything we were doing on TV, 79 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 5: we were doing from little boxes in our in our houses, 80 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 5: and it was not the same. This year, I'm having 81 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 5: my first ever, full fledged, full blown, out in the 82 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 5: world campaign experience with this gig, and it has been amazing. 83 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 5: Over the last two months, We've had three live events, 84 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 5: we had the debate, we had both conventions, spent a 85 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 5: week in all three places, and it's just afforded us 86 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 5: all the opportunity to deliver some greade a content on 87 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 5: the air. We've had some great debates and I'm just 88 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 5: really trying to focus on that aspect of it. You know, 89 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 5: there has to be half the country has to be 90 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 5: represented in these debates, and so I'm trying to trying 91 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 5: to bring it every day and and appreciative of CNN 92 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 5: forgive me the chance to do it. I have to say, 93 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 5: they they don't censor me, they don't tell me what 94 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 5: to do, they don't tell me what to say. They 95 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 5: just tell me to go out and do my thing. 96 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 5: And that's what I'm trying to do every day. So 97 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 5: I appreciate, appreciate your your compliments on it. 98 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: Well, I think it helps because you're just a really 99 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: likable You're you're a very nice guy. Obviously, you know 100 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: it's really smart. But it seems like your colleagues really 101 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: respect you and even though they probably don't, you know, 102 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: they don't agree with you, but you kind of talk 103 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: about how you know, this is sort of like the 104 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: full blown election cycle. I mean, it seems Scott that 105 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: we're increasingly living in two different Americas. 106 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 3: Do you feel like that more today than in the past. 107 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 5: Well, I feel like a lot of people do live 108 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 5: in information bubbles. Truthfully that you know, they don't. They 109 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 5: just don't necessarily see information about issues that might puncture 110 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 5: their priors, you know. And I, in all the years 111 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 5: I've been doing this, and you know, I've taught some 112 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 5: classes in college and you know, talk to people about 113 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 5: these issues. I always stress you need to take in 114 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 5: information that might challenge your assumptions or your priors. And 115 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 5: so I think, I think when we don't do that, 116 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 5: it does cause us to live in two different Americas. 117 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 5: It does cause us to see the world in ways 118 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 5: that has totally divorced from how someone else might see it. Now, 119 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 5: I will say this, in all this summer travel I've done, 120 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 5: with the three events, I have met a ton of 121 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 5: people that I don't know. And even in Chicago at 122 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 5: the DNC, I met a ton of very very good people, 123 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 5: clearly care about the country, clearly care about the future 124 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 5: of our democracy and the future of our government. And 125 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 5: I actually walked away from the experience feeling pretty heartened 126 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 5: about it. But it is kind of interesting though, when 127 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 5: you when you meet people and you realize there's just 128 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 5: a lot of information about some of the politicians they 129 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 5: revere they just have never seen you know, they've been 130 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 5: totally walled off from it. It just not it's never 131 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 5: made made it into their algorithms or their feeds or whatever. 132 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 5: And that's kind of worrisome to me, honestly, because I 133 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 5: think it makes us less informed when we're not getting 134 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 5: well rounded debate and information about you know, the big 135 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 5: topics of the day. 136 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: And and I don't know if we've seen that more 137 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: than we do today with you know, Kamala just really 138 00:06:55,720 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 1: being protected by the media, you know, not just not 139 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: sat down for you know, a proper press conference or 140 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: even a full blown sit down interview with even friendly 141 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: people in the media. And so you know, we talk 142 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: about Americans, you know, not really getting both sides of 143 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: the equation. 144 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 5: Well, this is going to be a fascinating thing about 145 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 5: her campaign this fall. How much are they going to 146 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 5: really try to minimize any risk? I mean, they're doing 147 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 5: a good job of it right now, just from a 148 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 5: pure cold political calculation. You know, what are you trying 149 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 5: to do when you run a campaign? Minimize risk, maximize results. 150 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 5: And they're not even minimizing risks. They're taking no risks, 151 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 5: but you know, they're getting away with it because people 152 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 5: really aren't pushing her. I mean, I've been saying on 153 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 5: the air that the next time she gets questioned, and 154 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 5: maybe the only time she actually gets really questioned, maybe 155 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 5: this September, the tenth debate she's got coming up with Trump. 156 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 5: No one's going to help Trump. It's all on his shoulders. 157 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 5: He's going to have to show up that night and 158 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 5: tell the American people things they may have never heard 159 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 5: about her, you know, so that she was for defund 160 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 5: the police, that she was for decriminalizing border crossings, that 161 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 5: she did co sponsor Medicare for All with Bernie Sanders. 162 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 5: You know, she has been to the left, way outside 163 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 5: the mainstream for most of her career. And this speech 164 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 5: she gave, which you know, she's good behind a podium, 165 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 5: she's gotten better at the theatrical part of it. But 166 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 5: they are totally wiping the canvas here and trying to 167 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 5: reinvent her as a centrist, as a moderate, and that 168 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 5: is not at all what her record is. I don't 169 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 5: know what you think, Lisa, but it's all on Trump. 170 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 5: He's going to have to show up and tell this 171 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 5: story at this debate because I don't think the I 172 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 5: don't think anybody else is going to help him do it. 173 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 5: I think there's a lot of investment in making sure 174 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 5: she becomes the president with minimal speed bumps along the way. 175 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 3: So how does he do that? 176 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: You know, I mean talk about you know, an adversarial media. 177 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: I mean, we've not seen this kind of propaganda ever 178 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 1: probably or this kind of you know, cover for the 179 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: Democrats ever. I mean, it's always been bad as you know, 180 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: working Republican politics, but you know, this is this is bad. 181 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: So what does he do? You know, how does he 182 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: shift the momentum? You know, what should he do? 183 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 5: I don't know what he can do between now and 184 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,599 Speaker 5: the tenth honestly, you know, he's going to have to 185 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 5: keep doing his events, and they're going to have to 186 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 5: keep running their political play. But at the debate, you know, 187 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 5: I really think there's two vectors he's got to take. 188 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 5: One is the exploration of who Kamala Harris is via 189 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 5: her own voting record and statements when she ran for 190 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 5: this office fully back in twenty nineteen. It may be, though, 191 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 5: that the most productive vector is to just continue to 192 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 5: ask the same question over and over again. And I 193 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 5: fear for this about this, for Trump because he gets 194 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 5: bored with things. I think. But to me, every time 195 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 5: she says something at the debate, there is one great response, 196 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 5: and that is either why haven't you done it already? 197 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 5: Or why don't you be honest about how you cause 198 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 5: the problem? You're the sitting vice president. They cannot permit 199 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 5: her to pretend like she just landed here on a 200 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 5: spaceship six weeks ago and said, oh, I've been part 201 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 5: of American life and American public affairs for the last 202 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 5: several years. I'll take it from here. You can't let 203 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 5: them do That's you listen to her speech last night, 204 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 5: I'm not sure you would have really known she was 205 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 5: the vice president. I mean, she she just sort of 206 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 5: glosses over it. She goes right from prosecutor in California 207 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 5: to hey, I'm running for president right now, totally glossing 208 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 5: over everything in between. If you were hiring someone at 209 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 5: a company and they handed you a resume with a 210 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 5: gap like that, it's the first thing you would notice, like, 211 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 5: what were you doing for all these years? There's no 212 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 5: explanation for these years. That's what he has to do. 213 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 5: He cannot get bored with it. He has to focus 214 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 5: on it. At this debate and really make her answer 215 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 5: for it, and hope that the moderators do their job 216 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 5: as well. I'm not you know, I don't know what 217 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 5: they will, but he can't assume that they will. He's 218 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 5: going to have to play all the parts, you know. 219 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 3: Well. 220 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: And he made this point so succinctly earlier in the 221 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: week when you pointed out that Democrats have controlled the 222 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 1: White House for the last twelve of the last sixteen years. 223 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: And you can kind of see the thought bubble on 224 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: your colleagues like, Oh, that's true. 225 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 3: But you know, but I don't know if Americans see 226 00:10:59,080 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 3: it that way. 227 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 5: Well, I think that we have been conditioned in our 228 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 5: political conversations to believe that Donald Trump is the root 229 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 5: of all things. You know, I've joked before on the 230 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 5: air that there are a lot of people that American 231 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 5: history doesn't exist for them before January twenty, twenty seventeen, 232 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 5: you know, like that's when all history started, and all 233 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 5: kinds of things are said about Trump in the superlative 234 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 5: when it's just not true. There was a history before Trump, 235 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 5: and the history before Trump was eight years of Obama, 236 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 5: and the Obama presidency is in part what gave us 237 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 5: Trump because people were kind of sick of it and 238 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 5: they wanted to do something different. They wanted an outsider 239 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 5: who was going to come in and kind of smashed 240 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 5: the elites in Washington who'd lost touch with them. And 241 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 5: if you look at the totality of where we sit 242 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 5: as a country today, a lot of it tracks back 243 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 5: to the Obama years and also this Biden presidency, which 244 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,839 Speaker 5: is an extension of the Obama years. That's why I 245 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 5: think the Obamas are so invested in this campaign. I 246 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 5: think they feel responsible for Trump. They know that they're 247 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 5: presidency gave us Donald Trump, and so they're embarrassed by that, 248 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 5: and that's why they're so invested in Harris. And I 249 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 5: also think it's why they were so embarrassed of Biden. 250 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 5: They work so hard to get rid of Biden because 251 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 5: you know, what he did as president kind of squandered 252 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 5: I think, in their eyes, their legacy, and so now 253 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 5: they need to redeem themselves again. But it's true, if 254 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 5: you're worried about the condition of the country. Democrats are 255 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 5: in charge most of the time twelve of the last 256 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 5: sixteen years, and they've had control of Congress for a 257 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 5: chunk of that time. And certainly they have control also, Lisa, 258 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 5: of other institutions. They control the universities, they control most 259 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 5: of the mechanisms through which we communicate about politics in 260 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 5: our country. So you know, they have a lot of 261 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 5: institutional ball control. And where we sit today is the 262 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 5: American people are not really satisfied with the conditions in 263 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 5: the country. Two thirds to seventy percent think we're off 264 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 5: on the wrong track. They cannot let Kamala Harris pretend 265 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 5: like she had nothing to do with this, because she 266 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 5: has had everything to do with it. 267 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: We've got a quick commercial break more with Scott Jennings 268 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: on the other side. You kind of talked about how 269 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: you know the world changed since you know Donald Trump 270 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: for many Americans. Have you ever seen a politician invoke 271 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: this kind of emotional reaction in people? And why do 272 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 1: you think he invokes that kind of emotional response from people, 273 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 1: positive and negative. 274 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 5: Well, no, because he exists on a plane that is 275 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 5: not normal. I mean, you look at all the presidents 276 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 5: of our lifetime. You know, they all sort of flowed 277 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 5: from within the institutions of politics that were used to 278 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 5: He came totally from outside of it, and he also 279 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 5: said things about it that no one was. Everybody sort 280 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 5: of knew, but no one was willing to say out loud. 281 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 5: I think that was appealing to voters. And he also, remember, 282 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 5: you know what he won. But the thing that Republicans 283 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 5: I think really appreciated about him was that he took 284 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 5: on two things that people Republicans had wanted to smash 285 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 5: for years, the media and the Clintons. I mean, if 286 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,679 Speaker 5: you went to a Republican Lincoln Day dinner anytime in 287 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 5: the last twenty years, what's the first thing anybody ever 288 00:13:58,160 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 5: said to you? What are we going to do about 289 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 5: the media? And then the second thing was what are 290 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 5: we going to do about the Clintons. I mean, those 291 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 5: were the two biggest, you know, death stars, you know 292 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 5: for Republicans, and this guy shows up out of nowhere 293 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 5: and says, I'm going to smash him both and win 294 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 5: the presidency and the process, so no matter whatever happens 295 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 5: to him. That sort of helps explain why Republicans love him, 296 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 5: and it also helps explain why Democrats hate him so much, 297 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 5: because he kind of took on two things that Democrats 298 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 5: loved very dearly, and that's, you know, having control of 299 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 5: the press and having the Clintons out there as they're 300 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 5: two big celebrities. He also controls both political parties. You know, 301 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 5: he certainly is the top of the Republican Party, but 302 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 5: everything the Democrats do is calibrated around Donald Trump. He 303 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 5: is like the first guy in American history to run 304 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 5: two parties at the same time. 305 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 3: That's a good point. 306 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: It's also interesting, you know, to hear the various speakers 307 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: throughout the week try to distance themselves from being part 308 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: of the elite. Yeah, like Oprah, Oh, listen, listen, listen. 309 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 5: You're like, dude, this is so crazy. I don't understand 310 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 5: Tim Walls attacking jd Vance for going to Yale. It's 311 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 5: like Tim Walls wants to present himself as this small 312 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 5: town champion for the little guy. I'm going to help 313 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 5: every student in my school get an education whatever, And 314 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 5: in the same breath he'll turn around and take JD. 315 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 5: Vance who grew up poor and decided to work as 316 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 5: hard as he could and improve his station life and 317 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 5: he winds up getting a great education. He also went 318 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 5: to o Issue by the way for part of his education. 319 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 5: And so he takes this guy and denigrates what he's 320 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 5: supposed to stand for. He's supposed to stand for people, 321 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 5: you know, getting the best education, the best opportunity they 322 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 5: can and instead he presents JD. Vance like he's a trader, 323 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 5: like he's somehow abandoned his roots by going off and 324 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 5: getting an education and providing a better life for his family. 325 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 5: Isn't that what we're supposed to be selling. So that 326 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 5: was weird to me at the convention. The other thing 327 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 5: that was weird was the billionaire schizophrenia at the convention. 328 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 5: So you know, you have Bernie Sanders come up and 329 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 5: decry the billionaires, and literally the next speaker was JB. Pritzker, 330 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 5: who you know is the third generation trust fund guy 331 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 5: from Illinois worth three and a half billion dollars. Then 332 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 5: you have the next speaker is Michelle Obama who decries 333 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 5: the affirmative action of generational wealth. Then the next day 334 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 5: of OPRAH, major billionaires show up. So we're booing the billionaires. 335 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 5: We're cheering the billionaires. We're booing the billionaires like this, 336 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 5: like these democrats have no idea, you know, who they're 337 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 5: supposed to be for or against? Are we supposed to 338 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 5: be for the IVY League? Were supposed to be against it? 339 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 5: Are we supposed to be for the billionaires, we're supposed 340 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 5: to be against it. I found the whole spectacle kind 341 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 5: of comical because you'd have somebody come up with these 342 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 5: traits and get cheered, and then the next person would 343 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 5: come up and crap all over it, and they would 344 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 5: cheer them as well. It's like, what are you cheering for? 345 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 5: Do you know what you're what are your values? I 346 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 5: don't know what you're doing here. 347 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: Well, it's also a little rich considering the fact that 348 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: you know, billionaires and millionaires as well as the party elite, 349 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: like whacked Joe Biden and then installed it one who 350 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: hasn't received a single primary vote. 351 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 3: Yes, so you know that's eledism. 352 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 5: It was the Obamas and Pelosi and the billionaire donor 353 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 5: class decided they were done with Joe Biden. I mean, 354 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 5: think about this. If you had done a job or 355 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 5: been in a profession for fifty two years and all 356 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 5: of a sudden, one day, a handful of folks show 357 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 5: up and say sorry, you're done, and not just like 358 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 5: done in a way that is going to feel good, 359 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 5: You're going to be done in a way that's going 360 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 5: to be humiliating. That's what they did to the President 361 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 5: of the United States. Look what they did to him 362 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 5: on Monday night. They pushed me in, they pushed him 363 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 5: past midnight. They cut James Taylor. I sat in the 364 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 5: convention hall on Monday and listened to James Taylor rehearse 365 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 5: for an hour singing for Joe Biden. They cut the 366 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 5: whole thing. They had a video tribute to Joe Biden, 367 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 5: they cut that too, And instead of getting Joe Biden 368 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 5: in primetime, what do we get Kathy Hochel, Jasmine Crockett 369 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 5: and a whole bunch of other anonymous mediocrates who stood 370 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 5: on the stage and ranted for hours while poor Joe 371 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 5: Biden had to sit backstage. I mean it is it 372 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 5: is amazing what the elites in the Democrat It's audacious 373 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 5: what they did to their own guy. Just absolutely flipped 374 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 5: him right to the curve. It's incredible. I don't think 375 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 5: it's made. If I'm telling you this, if Kamala Harris 376 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 5: doesn't win, the public reprisals from the Biden people are 377 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 5: going to be epic and I am here for it. 378 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,239 Speaker 1: What it's also just like the gaslighting, like we're just 379 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: being gaslet like left and right. It's it's you know, 380 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: I feel like we're living in like opposite day. 381 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 3: It's upside down day. You know, what's up is down? 382 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 3: Down is up? Uh, It's wild. 383 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 5: I love all the people who were dedicated to the 384 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 5: proposition that Joe Biden was in the Oval Office on 385 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 5: a regular basis, writing Unix cycles and juggling knives and 386 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 5: doing you know, complicated trigonometry all at the same time 387 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 5: on a daily basis. Those same people are now on 388 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 5: my TV every night telling me that Donald Trump is 389 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 5: too old to be president. I mean, it's amazing, it's 390 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,479 Speaker 5: like amazing. But they would what they were willing to 391 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 5: lie about for Biden, and now that he's gone, they're 392 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 5: now saying all the things about Trump that we used 393 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 5: to say about Biden. It is incredible the amount of 394 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 5: shameless gas lighting that we have been that we have 395 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 5: been subjected to by these Democrats. But we know we 396 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 5: are where we are. They did what they did, and 397 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 5: it's a It's a real race. I mean, I don't 398 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 5: know who's going to win. I don't know what you think, 399 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 5: but it feels like a toss up race to me. 400 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like it's a coin flip. 401 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: So your podcast Flyover Country, where do you think flyover 402 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: country will come down this selection. 403 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 5: You know, I think that people are hurting in fly 404 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 5: over country, and I think a fly over country is 405 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 5: everything you know west of the A Cella Corridor, basically, 406 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 5: and I and I think people are hurting, and I 407 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 5: think they have been hurting, and I think they are 408 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 5: still pretty mad about what was done to them during COVID. 409 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 5: I think they're pretty mad about what was done to 410 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 5: their kids. That's why I was so disgusted to see 411 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 5: Randy Wineingarten on the stage at the DNC on Thursday night. 412 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 5: I mean, what she and the Democrat radiculites did to 413 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 5: kids all over the country is despicable. I think they're 414 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 5: still mad about that. And I think, honestly, what they're 415 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 5: mad about is that none of the people who did 416 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 5: it to them, none of the people who inflicted the 417 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 5: inflation on them, have taken an ounce of responsibility for 418 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 5: it or shown an ounce of humility for it. So 419 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 5: I still think Trump has a lot of strength in 420 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 5: flyover country. I think there's a lot of people in 421 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 5: the suburbs and the exerbs and the rural parts of 422 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 5: America who are feeling real economic anxiety. You know, that 423 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 5: feeling every day like it could all fall apart this week. 424 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 5: That's a terrible feeling to live with. Back during the 425 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 5: Trump years, they felt like, Hey, I'm actually getting ahead, 426 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,640 Speaker 5: and today, at best, they think I'm just treading water. 427 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,400 Speaker 5: The best thing I can hope for is treading water. 428 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 5: No one wants to tread water. Everyone wants to get 429 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 5: ahead and think. I think they're looking for someone to 430 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 5: apologize to them and say, we went overboard, we did 431 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 5: too much, we spent too much money, We caused this pain. 432 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 5: But you're not going to get that. That's what makes 433 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 5: the Harris Economic Agenda to me so outrageous. She cast 434 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 5: the deciding votes to shower the economy with all this 435 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 5: money that caused the inflation, and now she wants to 436 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 5: tell you that it's corporate price gouging. Don't lie to me, 437 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 5: just take respons She might actually politically be better off 438 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 5: if she just said, you know what, live and learn. 439 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 5: We did too much. I wouldn't do that again. It's 440 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 5: called experience. I've learned from my mistakes. I think she'd 441 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 5: be better off if she did that. I don't expect 442 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 5: her to, but I think she'd be better off if 443 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 5: she did well. 444 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: It's also interesting to see even liberal media with the 445 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: price control as being like, Okay, well, well this is 446 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: too bad. 447 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 5: I've got the Washington Post, the New York Times. I 448 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 5: mean there's I don't think there's like a single you know, 449 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 5: even democratic economist, even like Jason Furman. I don't think 450 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 5: any of these people think it's a good idea that 451 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 5: uh Catherine Rampell, who writes for the Washington Post, I 452 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 5: mean she said something like, you know, if you don't 453 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 5: want to be accused of being a communist, maybe don't 454 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 5: implement their economic policies. I mean, I couldn't have said 455 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 5: it better myself. And she's one of the most liberal 456 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 5: columnists they have over at the Washington Post. I do 457 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 5: some TV with her from time to time. It's not 458 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 5: only is the economic policy terrible, but it is just 459 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 5: laughable that they would say to the American people, all 460 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 5: the inflation, the twenty percent across the board, increase in 461 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 5: your cost of living, it's all price gouging. And by 462 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 5: the way, all price gouging started three and a half 463 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 5: years ago, at about the same time all these policies started. 464 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 5: But don't worry, it's not the policies, it's price gouging. 465 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 5: They actually think we're that stupid. They believe people are 466 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 5: that stupid. I don't think they are, and I don't know, 467 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 5: I think, you know, you ask me how people in 468 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 5: Flower Country are feeling. I think when they know they're 469 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 5: being gas lit like that, it makes them even angrier 470 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 5: than they already are. 471 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: Well, and that's kind of, you know, I find myself often, 472 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: you know, trying to figure out what's real and what's manufactured. 473 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: As you pointed out, you know, Joe Biden was the 474 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,359 Speaker 1: most competent man in the entire world until he wasn't. 475 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: Like it's like Kamalarias was a terrible vice president and 476 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,719 Speaker 1: now she's, you know, the smartest, most remarkable woman that 477 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: has ever existed, you know. And then you look at 478 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: some of these man on the street interviews, like even 479 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: Don Lemon when he was in Atlanta City, New Jersey 480 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: recently and walking around, and he even seems surprised at 481 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: some of the responses of people being like, no, I'm 482 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,959 Speaker 1: with Trump, you know, and sort of explaining why and 483 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 1: so do you ever kind of you know, thinking in 484 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: your head, you know, what what is real the selection 485 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: cycle versus you know, what is being manufactured by the media. 486 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 5: Well, you know, what is real is what people are 487 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 5: willing to believe. And that's what's so kind of shocking 488 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 5: to me about a lot of a lot of voters, 489 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 5: a lot of Democrats out there. I mean, they were, 490 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 5: you know, willing to believe certain things about Joe Biden 491 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 5: that we could all see with our own eyes were 492 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 5: not true. I mean everybody, look, we've known for years 493 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 5: there was something wrong, but everyone was willing to believe, 494 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 5: or willing to look the other way, or willing to 495 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 5: just accept the lies about what was wrong with him. 496 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 5: It was a parent what was wrong with him? And 497 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 5: then it finally came crashing down after the debate. And 498 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 5: now you know what's true about Kamala Harris. I mean, 499 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 5: what we know about her record is that in her heart, 500 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 5: she's a very very liberal person. And that's okay. I mean, 501 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 5: they're liberals in the country, and they can fight for 502 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 5: their positions. But are you really going to believe that 503 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,640 Speaker 5: this person who in the who was a liberal their 504 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 5: entire life, is now in the blink of an eye, 505 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 5: transformed themselves and their heart and their values into being 506 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 5: a moderate or a centrist. I just I mean, are 507 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 5: you really willing to believe that, and I guess some 508 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 5: people will be. I'm certainly not going to be one 509 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 5: of them. But I think that's part of the challenge 510 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 5: of Trump to try to sell that. Don't let these 511 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 5: people lie to you. Remember when they got elected what 512 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 5: they say, we're the adults in the room. We're moderate. 513 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 5: Where deal makers were consensus builders, they've been editing. But 514 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 5: any of that, and Harris is now essentially selling a 515 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 5: continuation of that. I'm an adult, I'm competent, I'm moderate. 516 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 5: I'm going to govern from the center. That's what Biden 517 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 5: told you, and he lied and you hate it. He's 518 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 5: been a failed president. Don't fall for the same parlor 519 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 5: trick again. That'd be my advice for Trump. 520 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: You know. I also think one of the challenges for 521 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: this election cycle is like we've just seen so much chaos. 522 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,040 Speaker 1: I mean, July thirteenth assassination attempt on Donald Trump, and 523 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: then you had Joe Biden dropping out of the race 524 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: shortly thereafter VX and then installing an entirely new candidate, 525 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: and then a new vice president, you know, vice presidential 526 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: nominee pick for her with Wallas. So it's like there's 527 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 1: just been so much chaos and it's kind of hard 528 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: to find your footing in the midst of that. 529 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of chaos and a lot of the 530 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 5: center of gravity of media attention. You know, that was 531 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 5: with Trump from the assassination, and then the RNC immediately 532 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 5: just drained away. And I'm sure you've noticed this and 533 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 5: all the coverage that you track, it just completely drained away. 534 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 5: And the Democrats have dominated the national conversation since they 535 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 5: forced Joe Biden out of the race, and so you know, 536 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,719 Speaker 5: it has kind of sidelined Trump in some way. It's 537 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 5: amazing to me. It was just a few weeks ago 538 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 5: this man came a quarter of an inch from being assassinated. 539 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 5: I mean, it would have been a cataclysm for our country. 540 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 5: We still don't really know what the motivations of that 541 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 5: guy were. I mean, we you know, I think we 542 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 5: know he was kind of a crazy person and obviously 543 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 5: had some of the characteristics of these people who go 544 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 5: on these shootings freeze, but we really still don't know, 545 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 5: and there seems to be no curiosity about it. I mean, 546 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 5: today we learned some of the Secret Service agents involved 547 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 5: are being suspended. But you know, if any other person 548 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 5: had survived an assassination attempt like that, who had a 549 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 5: former president, a current leading contender for the presidency. You'd 550 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 5: think there'd be like more dogged skepticism and more dogged 551 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 5: determination to find out exactly what happened. But I feel 552 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 5: it feels like that just all evaporated because everybody was 553 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,160 Speaker 5: chasing the tale of Joe Biden being out in Kamala 554 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 5: Harris being in it. It's fascinating to me how quickly 555 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 5: it drained away from the public consciousness. 556 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: It's very strange. And then we still have sentencing, Yes, 557 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: you know, he still has sentencing coming up in September. 558 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's got that. I don't know how that's going 559 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 5: to play. I'm you know, I guess there's a non 560 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 5: zero chains this guy tries to throw him in jail. 561 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know what's going to happen. And 562 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 5: it would be crazy to me that they would over 563 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 5: these sex, paperwork crimes or whatever they've got him. I mean, 564 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 5: it'd be crazy to me that they could do it. 565 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 5: But I don't know. I guess there's a non zero 566 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 5: chance they might try. I mean, I guess, given every 567 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 5: other crazy thing that's happened, in this cycle. Would it 568 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 5: surprise you if they tried to throw Donald Trump in 569 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 5: the slammer? Maybe we wouldn't be surprised or shocked anymore. 570 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: I think he will just because Judge Marshan, I mean, 571 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: he donated to stop Republicans as well as Joe Biden, 572 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: and so I think that he has every intention on 573 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: helping Joe Biden and stopping Republicans. 574 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 5: Well. If he tries to throw Donald Trump in jail, 575 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 5: I think the country will be outraged. I mean, look, obviously, 576 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 5: the hardcore anti Trump left and the Democratic anti Trump coalition, 577 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 5: they'll love it. They'll think it's great. I mean, they 578 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 5: were chanting to lock him up at the Democratic Convention 579 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 5: this week while Hillary Clinton spoke That's been their deepest 580 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 5: dream is to see Donald Trump in handcuffs in an 581 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 5: orange jumpsuit. That is like they're you know, once they 582 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 5: achieved that, I don't know if they'll ever be able 583 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 5: to achieve that kind of emotional satisfaction ever again in 584 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 5: their entire lives. That's what they want, but I think 585 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 5: the country would reject it because that case is a dog, 586 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 5: it's a dumb case. It shouldn't exist, and I think 587 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 5: everybody kind of knows it. I mean, even a lot 588 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 5: of Democrat legal minds on TV that we're on with 589 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 5: have admitted this case should have never been brought in 590 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 5: the first place. So, you know, for the sake of 591 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 5: the country, I hope he doesn't try to do that. 592 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 5: I hope he doesn't try to satisfy these people that 593 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 5: have been desperate to throw Trump in jail for the 594 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 5: mere crime of running for president in the first place. 595 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 5: But I guess we'll see what happens. We need, we 596 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 5: need the focus. If you want to see Trump win, 597 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 5: if you want to see Republicans win, we need the 598 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 5: focus to be on Harris. Harris has to be explored, 599 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 5: her record, her statements, what she would do as president. 600 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 5: We cannot run the next seventy days with like no 601 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 5: exploration of Harris and just chasing every China. There has 602 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 5: to be focus on Harris because I'm quite certain when 603 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 5: people do focus on it, they're going to be pretty 604 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 5: skeptical of it. 605 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: Quick break more with Scott. You went to both conventions, 606 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: how would you what's the side by side? You know, 607 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: how would you comparing to trast them? 608 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 5: You know, it was obviously one existed in one reality 609 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 5: and one existed in the other. I mean, one existed 610 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 5: in the before Harris times and one existed in the after. 611 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 5: I actually think both parties are coming out of the 612 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 5: convention feeling happy, feeling like they had fun, feeling like, 613 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 5: you know, they're optimistic. You know, coming out of Milwaukee, 614 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 5: Republicans were believing Donald Trump was going to win in 615 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 5: a landslide, that he had it in the bag, that 616 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 5: Biden was spent, and that you know, they were there. 617 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 5: They were getting ready to feel the vindication for twenty 618 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 5: twenty that they've always wanted. Obviously, now we're in a 619 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 5: different race. And for Democrats I kind of likened it 620 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 5: to you know, for most of the year, you know, 621 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 5: their favorite baseball team was down six or seven runs, 622 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden in the eighth inning, 623 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 5: they've now scored five or six runs and it's either 624 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 5: tied or down one. And and so the feeling of 625 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 5: there's no way we can win goes to hey, we're 626 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 5: actually in the game. Now, you know, there is a 627 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 5: there's a sense of like hope, an optimism. That's a 628 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 5: real human emotion that comes with that kind of condition, 629 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 5: and so that's how they feel. That's what I sensed 630 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 5: in Chicago people who thought they were totally going to 631 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 5: be beaten to a pulp by Donald Trump now all 632 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 5: of a sudden feel like they have a chance to win. 633 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 5: And so I think both both parties exited their conventions 634 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 5: in different realities, but with the same kind of emotion. Hey, 635 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 5: we can and probably will win this thing. I don't 636 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 5: know who's going to be right, but I think they 637 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 5: both feel that way. 638 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: It talked about exploring Harris's record. If Republicans want to win, 639 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: what do you think Kambala harris presidency would look like. 640 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 5: Well, I think the best predictor of future behavior and 641 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 5: politics is what have you done in the past, and 642 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 5: whenever given the chance to make policy at the federal 643 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 5: level in the past, what has she done? She co 644 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 5: sponsored Medicare for All, She tried to decriminalize border crossing. 645 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 5: She wanted to shut down illegal immigrant detention centers. She 646 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 5: got in bed with the defund the police movement. She 647 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 5: tried to bail violent people out of jail. She wanted 648 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 5: to ban fracking in Pennsylvania. Those were her instincts. I 649 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 5: don't think your instincts really change, uh, And why does 650 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 5: she have those instincts, because that's probably who she listens 651 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 5: to in her party. That's where the energy is in 652 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 5: the Democratic Party. So what and then and then on 653 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 5: top of that, her only policy thing she's rolled out 654 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 5: in her campaign has been this far left, you know, 655 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 5: quasi socialist price control idea, uh in an effort to 656 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 5: control price gouging, which doesn't exist. These grocery stores exist 657 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 5: on very thin margins. So my guess is she would 658 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 5: default to those views. How would she be as an administrator? Well, 659 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 5: how has she acted as Vice president? She was incompetent 660 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 5: when given the task of working on the border, and 661 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 5: she just saluted Joe Biden when he told her to 662 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 5: go up to the Senate and cast the deciding votes 663 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 5: on all the bills that caused massive inflation in the 664 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 5: US economy. She just said, yep, absolutely, I'll do it. 665 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 5: So as an administrator, she took orders to go execute 666 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 5: a far left agenda, or she was totally incompetent on 667 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,479 Speaker 5: the things that she was given to do by Biden, 668 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 5: her boss. So I look, I think it's a continuation 669 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 5: of Biden. And if I were Trump, that's how I 670 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 5: present it. You're unhappy with the condition of the country. 671 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 5: Why would you leave the same people in charge, putting 672 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 5: Harrison for Biden. She's different, she's younger, different background, but 673 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 5: the policies, the instincts, and the administration is all the same. 674 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 5: So if you're happy with the results you're getting right now, 675 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 5: keep it going, keep it going by all means, keep 676 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,719 Speaker 5: it going. But I don't think people are. And so 677 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 5: my guess is as president, it'd be just like Joe Biden, 678 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 5: except maybe even a little more liberal. And he's been 679 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 5: pretty darn liberal, maybe the most liberal president we've ever had. 680 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 3: H Scott, before we go, is there anything else you'd 681 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 3: like to leave us with? 682 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 5: Well, I'm anxious about this election because I do think 683 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 5: there are things going on in our world that are 684 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 5: bigger than just the policy and political fights we're having. 685 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 5: I do think right now there is a war going 686 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 5: on on Western civilization. I don't know how outrage you were, 687 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 5: I assume pretty outraged, But watching these college campuses over 688 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 5: the last several months, watching what happened, the anti Semitism, 689 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 5: the burning of the American flag, the brandishing of the 690 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 5: Palestinian and Hamas and Hesbula flags. You know at UCLA, 691 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 5: you know this court case going on where they're trying 692 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 5: to ban Jewish kids from going to certain parts of 693 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 5: the campus. You see this happening, and I think what 694 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 5: I have come to realize is just there's a war 695 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,479 Speaker 5: on Western civilization, and that inherently means there is a 696 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 5: war on the foundations of our democracy, of the underpinnings 697 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 5: of the United States of America, and the ideals that 698 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 5: we built this country on. I think there's a group 699 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 5: of people in this country and in this world who 700 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 5: are dedicated to tearing it all down. Now, Kamala Harrison, 701 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 5: the Democrats tried to wipe that away at the DNC. 702 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 5: They don't want you to see all that. They don't 703 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 5: want you to think about all that, and they want 704 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 5: you to believe that they're going to try to, you know, 705 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 5: put that away, that they're going to end it. I 706 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 5: don't think that's true. I think these people exist. I 707 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 5: think they're motivated. I think they're enthusiastic, and I think 708 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 5: they feel like they have momentum. And I think we 709 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 5: all need to be vigilant that our country and what 710 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 5: we know as the foundation of Western civilization is not 711 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 5: for sure. And there's a whole bunch of people in 712 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 5: this country that love to do away with it and 713 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 5: in this world that we love to do away with it, 714 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 5: and I think our foreign adversaries are are floating it along. 715 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 5: So however you feel about the election is one thing, 716 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 5: but keep in mind there's larger forces at play here 717 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 5: and we cannot let them win or our country and 718 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:28,720 Speaker 5: our world will be changed forever. 719 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: I think that was incredibly well said, and I share 720 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: that sentiment wholeheartedly. I really do believe believe this selection 721 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: is about, you know, the future of the country and 722 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: the world, yes, or and civilization, as you pointed out. 723 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 5: I mean, there's there's just so much that the value 724 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 5: set that we rely on as Americans, the idea that 725 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 5: we have free speech, you know, the idea that you know, 726 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 5: just the fundamental religious freedoms that we that we have. 727 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 5: I mean, I am mortified at the anti semitism we 728 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,760 Speaker 5: seen in the United States. It's crazy what has happened 729 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,399 Speaker 5: in this country and around the world since October the seventh. 730 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 5: I honestly can't believe it, and that we have politicians 731 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 5: in the US government who actually take the word of 732 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 5: Hamas over the word of our democratic ally Israel. It's 733 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 5: crazy to me that that's happening, but it is, and 734 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 5: everybody needs to pay close attention. These aren't gadflies. Okay, 735 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 5: there's more than a handful of gadflies who believe this stuff, 736 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 5: and they really don't have a place in our political culture. 737 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 5: And I hope the American people don't normalize this by 738 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 5: voting for it November. Yeah. 739 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: I mean, there's just a complete ignorance that Hamas controls 740 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 1: of the government and Gaza, you know, the Gaza ministry. 741 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 5: I know, and you have politicians, even Joe Biden. I mean, 742 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 5: in the State of the Union, Joe Biden was quoting 743 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 5: Hamas statistics. Hamas supplied statistics made it into the Joe 744 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 5: Biden State of the Union. This is this is ought 745 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,240 Speaker 5: to chill you to the bone to know that that happened. 746 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 5: And so, I don't know, it's a story as old 747 00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,919 Speaker 5: as time. You know, when something's going on, was blame 748 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 5: the Jews, and I hate it. I hate it because 749 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 5: we're better than that. We've lived through this, you know, 750 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 5: as a culture, we cannot let this happen again. But 751 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 5: at the heart of it is getting rid of the 752 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,919 Speaker 5: fundamental tenets of Western civilization. And this is just part 753 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 5: of that hatred that goes into that. So I really 754 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 5: hope people wake up to it and we all work 755 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,720 Speaker 5: together to defend our democracy and defend our value system. 756 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 5: It's more than just our system of government. It's the 757 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 5: fundamental tenets of Western civilization that we all rely on 758 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 5: to exist in this culture. Together. It can go away 759 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 5: if we're not vigilant. I really believe that. 760 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 1: Scott Jennings, You're awesome. This has been one of my 761 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 1: favorite conversations to date. I really appreciate you taking the 762 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,240 Speaker 1: time to come on the show and just so happy 763 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,280 Speaker 1: for your success and glad that people are paying attention 764 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: to how talented you really are. 765 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 3: So just appreciate your time. 766 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,399 Speaker 5: Well, Lisa, I love you. We've been friends for years. 767 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're raising. 768 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 5: You're terrific on the air. You know, I knew you 769 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 5: when you were a upholster. Now you're a big celebrity 770 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 5: and a big star. Now look at you. You do 771 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 5: an amazing job on TV and in all your commentaries. 772 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 5: So I was really really honored to be invited onto 773 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 5: your podcast and glad that we got to have got 774 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 5: to have this conversation at such a pivotal time in 775 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 5: our nation's political history. 776 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: Well, you're just a really great guy, and so it's 777 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,240 Speaker 1: just it's it's always it's always good to see people 778 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,320 Speaker 1: succeed who are just really good humans. 779 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,320 Speaker 3: And you are just a good human. You're a good person. 780 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 1: So it's just awesome to see people paying such close 781 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 1: attention to what what you have to say. So really 782 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 1: proud of you and your success and going to keep 783 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: retweeting the things that you say, so. 784 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 5: Tweet smash the retweets. So let's say we'll save democracy 785 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 5: via one, one retweet at a time. 786 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: Well, you've got her and John, you've got to retweet 787 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: from me and my producer, John, who's a big fan too. 788 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 3: I iwa was telling you. 789 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: I think he's more. He was more excited for you 790 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 1: to come on than news for me. So thanks John, 791 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I like job. 792 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 5: You guys are too kind. I love you both. Thank 793 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 5: you very much. 794 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 3: You're awesome. Scott, love you too. 795 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 1: That was Scott Jennings. I really appreciate him taking the time. 796 00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 1: It's just a really good guy and he's just crushing 797 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: it at CNN. 798 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:01,879 Speaker 3: So it's awesome to. 799 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: See appreciate you guys at home for listening every Monday 800 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: and Thursday, but you can listen throughout the week. I 801 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: want to thank John Cassio and my producer for putting 802 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: the show together. 803 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:09,439 Speaker 3: Until next time,