WEBVTT - Selects: How Mars Works

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, friends. Have you ever been to Mars? I haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know why? Because nothing ever happens on Mars.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you catch that reference? If you did, then I'm glad,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not going to spoon feed you and tell

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<v Speaker 1>you what it was. This is how Mars works and

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<v Speaker 1>it was from April and it is my pick for

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<v Speaker 1>the Saturday Select. Please to enjoy Welcome to Stuff You

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<v Speaker 1>Should Know, a production of I Heart Radio. Hey, and

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, Nur's Charles w

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck Bryant, Jerry's over there. We all have um I

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<v Speaker 1>boogers because this is an early morning, unusual, early morning

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<v Speaker 1>edition of Stuff you Should Know. Welcome to the morning edition.

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<v Speaker 1>We should just talk like this. We got on NPR,

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<v Speaker 1>we got taken to task and it's nine an email

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<v Speaker 1>from a morning talk show TV show host. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>see it? Uh? About the Inquisition? Yeah? He's like, way

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<v Speaker 1>to release the Inquisition on ash Wednesdays, kind of slapping

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<v Speaker 1>the face. So I respond I said, actually it came

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<v Speaker 1>out on Fat Tuesday and by sheer coincidence. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for the reply. I responded to him too. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, man, I wish I was that clever and

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<v Speaker 1>said I had no idea. It was like our our

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<v Speaker 1>medical marijuana episode being our four utter complete coincidence guaranteed everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, over the course of six hundred plus shows,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have some weird coincidences like that, you know. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I certainly didn't know it was ash Wednesday. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>either until I went to the mall yesterday evening and

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<v Speaker 1>a third of the people are were walking around with

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<v Speaker 1>charcoal crosses on their forehead. Nice. It's like I had

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<v Speaker 1>no idea Atlanta had this many Catholics good going there everywhere?

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<v Speaker 1>They sure are well, I mean they didn't used to

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<v Speaker 1>be got You know, I grew up Baptist here and

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know many Catholics growing up, But Atlanta became

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<v Speaker 1>a transplant towns instead, exactly. And I'll tell you about

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<v Speaker 1>another transplant chuck, possibly life here on Earth from Mars?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, is this your intro? Have you got breaking this? No?

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<v Speaker 1>That was it. But do you remember we did an

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<v Speaker 1>episode on UM the origin of life on Earth? Remember?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah? And one of the possibilities that it

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<v Speaker 1>was from Mars and one of the um pieces of

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<v Speaker 1>evidence of this possibility was the Alan Hills Rock from Antarctica,

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<v Speaker 1>a Martian meteorite that was discovered in that was studied

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<v Speaker 1>and studied, and they thought in basically, Bill Clinton said,

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<v Speaker 1>we found evidence of life on Mars. And then they

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<v Speaker 1>studied it again and they were like, maybe not another

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<v Speaker 1>studying it again, they're saying, yeah, it's possible. It's very

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<v Speaker 1>possible that this four point one billion year old rock

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<v Speaker 1>is showing evidence of fosse realized nano bacteria. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is all still Bill Clinton saying this. Yeah, it is

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<v Speaker 1>underwear at home. He's the authority. He's talking to the

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<v Speaker 1>TV again. Nice. Uh, but yeah, we're gonna do how

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<v Speaker 1>Mars works. Tom Hanks, this one's for you, big space guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, sure, Okay. I didn't know if I was

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<v Speaker 1>missing something there, like he did some movie that didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know about. No, if I said, Gary Sinise, this one's

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<v Speaker 1>for you, that would be a mission to Mars reference.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not see that. Mind bogglingly odd and pretty bad. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I heard, That's why I didn't see it. That and

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<v Speaker 1>Red Planet didn't see either. One of those. Red Planet

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about. Yeah, but that kind of brings

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<v Speaker 1>us to a point that we've long been fascinated with

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<v Speaker 1>the red planet, going back to you know, War the

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<v Speaker 1>World's and early science fiction and Martians and Mars has

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<v Speaker 1>just always captivated us because you know, sometimes you can

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<v Speaker 1>see it with a telescope and it's not like what's

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side of a Venus Venus. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't know much about Venus, shrouded in mystery. There are

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<v Speaker 1>no Venusians that we're afraid will come down here in

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<v Speaker 1>attack Us. I think it's Venusians Venetians, which is different

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<v Speaker 1>from Venetians, which are people from Venice, which, strangely enough,

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<v Speaker 1>Um kind of coincides with the guy named Giovanni Siaparelli.

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<v Speaker 1>He might not have been from Venice, but that man

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<v Speaker 1>was definitely from Italy. Do you think, yeah, he was.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you say his name for everybody, Chuck, who Giovanni Sarelli.

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<v Speaker 1>That was good that guy. Man, Have you been practicing

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<v Speaker 1>at home? No, I just I've been even a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of pasta. That's good stuff, man, So um Schiaparelli in

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen seventy seven decided to draw a map of Mars

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<v Speaker 1>and his conception of Mars what became the popular conception

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<v Speaker 1>if it wasn't already. UM was that Mars was a UM,

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<v Speaker 1>a lush planet with civilizations, and he named the regions

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<v Speaker 1>of Mars a corps lee like Elysium, which which UM

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<v Speaker 1>culture believed that that was Heaven. I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't remember, man, I haven't heard that. We you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we've discussed it before, Elysium. I haven't retained that. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>Another part was called Utopia Arcadia. Basically, all these different

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<v Speaker 1>names for paradise reflected the idea that Mars was a

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<v Speaker 1>very similar to Earth, most likely inhabited by intelligent beings

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<v Speaker 1>and UM. As proof, uh, Schiaparelli drew canals that he

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<v Speaker 1>noticed on the on Mars, which suggested that this advanced

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<v Speaker 1>civilization had dug canals to UM route water from the

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<v Speaker 1>polar ice caps which are visible here on Earth to

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<v Speaker 1>the central locations where their civilizations were get water to

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<v Speaker 1>the Martians. Yeah, and this established like what earth links

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<v Speaker 1>thought of Mars for a hundred years. Almost about forty

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<v Speaker 1>years after that, a US astronomer named Percival lowell Um

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<v Speaker 1>wrote a book also about Mars, where he actually talked

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<v Speaker 1>about civilizations, and Uh, the problem was he he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>really based on anything, it might as well have been

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<v Speaker 1>science fiction, right, And yet they named the Lowell Observatory

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<v Speaker 1>after him. He was an astronomer, so it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>he was. He wasn't just making stuff up, but he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have like hard evidence. He made a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff up. Okay, he well, he interpreted it without any evidence. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and then wrote a book and that became the impetus

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<v Speaker 1>for Mars based science fiction. Yeah, it really captured folks.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's when like I talked about war the World's

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, Edgar Rice Burrows the Princess of Mars, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just always been just out there staring down at us. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's speaking of war the World's. It even says it

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<v Speaker 1>in this article. It did not cause the national panic

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<v Speaker 1>in night. That's a myth. Did you know that? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm not sure I knew the full stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Supposedly when h when um uh who directed Citizen Kane?

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<v Speaker 1>When Orson Welles carried out this radio. Yeah, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>scared everyone, right, it caused a panic. People were wild

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<v Speaker 1>in the streets, committing suicide, like doing all sorts of stuff. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it isn't true. Um. Apparently the newspapers got wind of

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<v Speaker 1>this rumor and played it up, and um, the reason

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<v Speaker 1>they played it up was to prove that radio couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be trusted as a source of news because it was

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<v Speaker 1>a big competitor to newspapers at the time. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>done a Don't Be Dumb on that? No? Maybe I will?

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<v Speaker 1>Can I plug that? Go ahead, Josh? As a web

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<v Speaker 1>series called Don't Be Dumb? That is very funny and

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<v Speaker 1>uh strange, and you learned stuff. It's like the perfect

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<v Speaker 1>one to three punch. Weird funny and you walk away

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<v Speaker 1>with some knowledge. Thanks man, And everyone likes it that

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<v Speaker 1>watches it, so we just need more people to watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me the weird sausage fingers. Steve McQueen, clap, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that is weird? Oh the director? Oh yeah, he was

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<v Speaker 1>clapping weird, wouldn't he at the Oscars? Apparently he and um,

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<v Speaker 1>the screenwriter who won an oscar for that movie, Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>for twelve Years of Slave do not like each other

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<v Speaker 1>over the writing credit. Oh yeah. The writer walked right

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<v Speaker 1>past him, and Steve McQueen didn't even turn to look

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<v Speaker 1>at him as he was walking up to get his oscar.

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<v Speaker 1>I did kind of notice that Yeah, well, if you

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<v Speaker 1>read delisted, he rooted it out and found out that

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<v Speaker 1>it was over a writing credit. Is that why he

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<v Speaker 1>was clapping weirdly? He was showing his disdain with sausage. Weird. Alright, So, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>this weird early fascination with Mars, Like I said, we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have a lot of information other than just sort

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<v Speaker 1>of looking at it from Earth. UM. And it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>until the sixties and seventies that we started in many

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<v Speaker 1>countries started exploring Mars, but we started sending UM orbiters

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<v Speaker 1>to take a closer peak and then eventually orbiters led

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<v Speaker 1>to landers and rovers and it's been like kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a prime directive of NASA for a while. Yeah, one

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<v Speaker 1>of them. And and it was UM. When they scrapped

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<v Speaker 1>the Space Shuttle UM program. I remember NASA was saying like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry everybody, We're gonna go to Mars. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>focus on Mars. That's why we're not doing the shuttle anymore. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And apparently they are. There was just as recently as

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday NASA testified about its budget and UM and they

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<v Speaker 1>were saying, well, we've got a really great thing plan.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna get this asteroid. We're gonna maneuver it with

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<v Speaker 1>a robot into lunar orbit so we can go visit

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<v Speaker 1>it later. And the senators at this hearing basically said boring,

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<v Speaker 1>like yeah, They're like, what's this backup Mars mission listed?

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<v Speaker 1>And they're like, oh, well, we're talking about doing a

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<v Speaker 1>man fly by a venus and Mars. Sentators are like, Mars, Mars, Mars.

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<v Speaker 1>So it looks like NASA is gonna be forced to

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<v Speaker 1>go to Mars, whether they like it or not. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's still captivating. If it's captivating. The dumb dums and Congress, well,

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<v Speaker 1>they even said, like the asteroid mission, that's not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>spur the public the public imagination, like going past sending

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<v Speaker 1>a person past Mars, that's what you want to do NASA.

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<v Speaker 1>And NASA is like, all right, but there's gonna we

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<v Speaker 1>could probably mind the asteroid and the senators I went

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<v Speaker 1>Mars Mars Mars and they all went to a bar afterward. Yeah, okay, Jim,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to go to Mars And he was like

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<v Speaker 1>all right, yeah, I guess so. Um alright, so where

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<v Speaker 1>should we start here? Um, well, let's start with the

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<v Speaker 1>origin of Mars. It seems pretty appropriate. Yeah, it's pretty fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>I love how scientists piece together ancient history of the cosmos,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, without having ever sent a geologist there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all I mean, even before the rovers, it was

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<v Speaker 1>basically all just based on photographs and and surmising from those.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we've got the Curiosity rover, the third rover up there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's still up there, right yeah, yeah, or it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>come home, does it. No, it will, but it's still operational. Yeah. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And they were thinking, I think it was a two

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<v Speaker 1>year mission, but it could go longer than that. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's already gone a little longer than that, because

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<v Speaker 1>I think it went wasn't really already. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>went up in late two thousand eleven. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's been there a little over two years. Well, good going, Curiosity.

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<v Speaker 1>I might be wrong. Um. All right, So there's basically

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<v Speaker 1>five things that they surmise happened to four Mars, which

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<v Speaker 1>will will list and then get into in more detail. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>It initially formed from clumping together of little, tiny objects

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<v Speaker 1>until it made a big round planet. It was an

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<v Speaker 1>accretion disc. Yeah, like just like Earth, Just like Earth. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Then there was a lot of meteor bombardment all over

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<v Speaker 1>the Solar System, and Mars was of course affected just

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<v Speaker 1>like Earth. Just like Earth. In the Moon, the mantle

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<v Speaker 1>was very hot and pushed through the crust, lifting up

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<v Speaker 1>portions of it. And then there were a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>uh they don't know how many, but at least a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of periods of lots of volcanoes going on, say

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<v Speaker 1>it just like lava flows. And then finally the planet

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<v Speaker 1>cooled down and the atmosphere thinned out to leave this

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<v Speaker 1>with Mars unlike Earth, right, uh, And it Mars formation

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<v Speaker 1>was virtually identical of the process that formed Earth. It's

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<v Speaker 1>about half the size, but there in the beginning as

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<v Speaker 1>far as makeup and the processes that they were undergoing, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they were virtually identical. Yeah. And being half the size

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty key to uh, why it's not like Earth

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<v Speaker 1>more um one of the reasons. So I guess we

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<v Speaker 1>should get into some more detail about this, Huh. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we should. The accretion that you talked about, the

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<v Speaker 1>small objects about it took about a hundred thousand years,

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<v Speaker 1>and as the gravitational field got stronger, it kept pulling

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<v Speaker 1>in more of this stuff and it would crash into

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<v Speaker 1>the planet and uh and get hot basically and just

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<v Speaker 1>sort of meld together. Yeah. I was like, oh, Mars,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was interesting. I looked at why planets are around,

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<v Speaker 1>and the reason why is because the gravitational field and

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<v Speaker 1>the spin. Uh it's sucking everything into the dense core. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it's the core. The gravitational field behaves like it's

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<v Speaker 1>coming from the center, and everything else thinks it's coming

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<v Speaker 1>from the center. So the only way to get everything

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<v Speaker 1>is close to the center as possible is to make

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<v Speaker 1>a sphere like Obviously, if you had a square, that

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<v Speaker 1>would be a corner that's not as close as other parts.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be a creepy planet like a cube. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I wondered, you know, or why doesn't it look

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<v Speaker 1>like an asteroid, Let's say, but asteroids don't have the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of gravitational force to draw everything in like that

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<v Speaker 1>to form that sphere. It's called isotactic adjustment. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>just thought, wait a minute, all these things are perfectly round.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not perfectly around. Want more pyramid shaped planet would

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<v Speaker 1>be kind of cool? Um. All right, So that was

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<v Speaker 1>the acretion, and now you have gas being released from

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<v Speaker 1>cooling after the core and mantle and crust have formed

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<v Speaker 1>in this hot ball. Right, and as the as the

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<v Speaker 1>gases are being released in the hot ball, um, they

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<v Speaker 1>are forming this atmosphere. They're supporting an atmosphere. They're floating

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<v Speaker 1>out and um kind of hanging around. Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And um, so you've got an atmosphere in place. You

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<v Speaker 1>have a molten core, you have a softer mantle, and

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<v Speaker 1>then a crust that formed. Yeah. And um, as that

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<v Speaker 1>that softer mantle and the woont and core press up,

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<v Speaker 1>you have volcanic activity, yeah, which releases even more heat

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<v Speaker 1>and gas, which makes the atmosphere even thicker. And at

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<v Speaker 1>this point they think that there is a period of

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<v Speaker 1>um water presence on Mars where it was raining. So

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<v Speaker 1>then after you've got a primitive atmosphere. And then, as

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<v Speaker 1>it says in the article by Craig he's a great

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<v Speaker 1>writer for us. Yeah, PhD, that's right. Uh he said

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<v Speaker 1>March Mars couldn't catch a break, which was pretty accurate,

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<v Speaker 1>And it was pounded by meteors in the Solar system,

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<v Speaker 1>forming craters and basins and all sorts of interesting landforms.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, the same thing happened here. But we

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<v Speaker 1>had like water and things like that too, cause erosion

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<v Speaker 1>and fill it, fill it in. On the Moon, there

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<v Speaker 1>isn't anything like that, so you still see those craters.

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<v Speaker 1>And but the same thing happened on Mars. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>actually there was water on Mars um that bombard it,

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<v Speaker 1>and the that caused the magma to come up out

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<v Speaker 1>of the core of of Mars, creating volcanic activity and

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<v Speaker 1>shifts in the mantle and the crust. Um all released

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<v Speaker 1>hot gas into the Martian atmosphere, which thickened it and

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<v Speaker 1>increased its temperature, which led to rain, yes, rain, flooding, erosion.

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<v Speaker 1>So there was like a period at least for a

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<v Speaker 1>little while of um the presence of water on Mars.

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<v Speaker 1>There still list, dude, the presence of unfrozen flowing water.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, there's not flowing water right as of September

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<v Speaker 1>last year, they found water in the dirt. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty exciting. Two points per cubic foot. Yeah, but but

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<v Speaker 1>it's a spoiler. Sorry, actually it can't be a spoiler.

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<v Speaker 1>But that happened in the bat right, Yeah, but if

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<v Speaker 1>if you haven't heard of it any yeah, alright, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>Uh so, then Craig likens to Mars at this point

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<v Speaker 1>is a soft boiled and as the eggshell is cooling, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the the yoke is gonna start busting through the mantle.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's like on Earth is what is going to

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<v Speaker 1>form things like volcanoes. And again those volcanoes and that

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<v Speaker 1>activity led to that atmosphere in the periods of rain

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<v Speaker 1>and flooding and erosion Olympus Mons. Yeah, that's a good

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<v Speaker 1>pixie song. Was that a pixie song for a dream

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<v Speaker 1>of the Olympus Mons? Nice? Yeah, I don't think I

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<v Speaker 1>did that one. What's that on? Uh? Yeah, okay, Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Olympus Mons is the largest volcano there and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>it makes Mountain Everest look like a mole hill. As

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<v Speaker 1>a matter of fact, it's the largest point in the

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<v Speaker 1>known Solar system, the highest point. Yeah, yeah, the tallest um.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember our myth busting episode where we showed that Mount

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<v Speaker 1>Everest wasn't the tallest mountain. It's mounta Loa Yeah. Yeah. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>on Earth, mounta Looa is um something like it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>six miles from the ocean floor. Uh, yes, the rises

0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:10.520
<v Speaker 1>six nice chuck and um it's a hundred and forty

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<v Speaker 1>miles wide at its base. That's a big mountain. On

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<v Speaker 1>Earth on Mars, which is again half the size of

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<v Speaker 1>Earth in diameter. Olympus mons is sixteen miles tall. And

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<v Speaker 1>and that's not from an ocean floor either, Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because there is no ocean on Mars exactly. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to see something cool, type in Mars, what

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<v Speaker 1>would Mars look like with ocean and people have done

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<v Speaker 1>like um simulations of it. It looks really neat, like

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<v Speaker 1>vacation worthy, like you would want to go there to vacam.

0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:46.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's like a sunny beach with it looks

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<v Speaker 1>like Earth, but with weird continents um. And then it's

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<v Speaker 1>three seventy miles across Olympus mons Is. That's large. It's big.

0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:57.200
<v Speaker 1>And they have like pictures if you google it, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>compare it to Everest and it just dwarfs it, that's right.

0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:03.679
<v Speaker 1>And you can see pictures of it too, you know,

0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:07.359
<v Speaker 1>they snapped photos of it. It's pretty impressive. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>large volcano which eventually went dormant. All the volcanoes on

0:19:14.359 --> 0:19:18.639
<v Speaker 1>Mars went dormant, that's right, somewhere possibly about three billion

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, and um as the volcanoes went dormant, the

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<v Speaker 1>the the heat was released. Basically Mars had no more

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<v Speaker 1>heat to give from its core um, which meant the

0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:35.400
<v Speaker 1>atmosphere wasn't being fed any longer, so it thin, which

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<v Speaker 1>led to a drop in temperatures. Yeah, and how we

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned earlier, how the the fact that it was smaller

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<v Speaker 1>than Earth is one reason why it's not more like Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the reason it cooled so fast, like Earth wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have cold nearly as fast, no, huh. And um it

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<v Speaker 1>also kept a magnetic field going thanks to its molten core.

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<v Speaker 1>Mars did not any longer, so you got a thin atmosphere,

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<v Speaker 1>cold temperatures. Um. The atmosphere that was there started freezing

0:20:01.160 --> 0:20:05.480
<v Speaker 1>and falling two Mars and was stored as ice. Any

0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:08.200
<v Speaker 1>water that was already on the planet's surface turned into

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<v Speaker 1>perma frost, and um Mars became it underwent what's called

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<v Speaker 1>the Great desiccation event, where it became a barren, deserted

0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:20.560
<v Speaker 1>desert planet. Yeah, and before that, these were this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of happened in cycles for a while, like the volcanic

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<v Speaker 1>action and then the gas is being released and like

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<v Speaker 1>major flooding from water, until like you said, eventually it's

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<v Speaker 1>the cold, not hot, but cold, dusty place that we

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<v Speaker 1>love today. Yeah, And what's um interesting is that Earth

0:20:38.160 --> 0:20:41.040
<v Speaker 1>and Mars were so similar as they formed and about

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time. About three billion years ago, Mars

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<v Speaker 1>underwent the Great Desiccation Event and Earth underwent the Great

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<v Speaker 1>Oxygenation Event, which gave rise to all life here on Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>The the appearance of algae, which created a breathable atmosphere

0:20:57.320 --> 0:20:59.959
<v Speaker 1>almost at about the same time. So they totally diverse,

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<v Speaker 1>two different paths that have around the same time. I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if the main reason was because of its size. Yeah,

0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:09.760
<v Speaker 1>the cooling another Earth. Yes, it's interesting. Had it been

0:21:09.800 --> 0:21:13.600
<v Speaker 1>the exact same size, who knows, maybe we'd be like

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<v Speaker 1>going there and back right now, right on vacation like Swarnegger.

0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:23.679
<v Speaker 1>That was a good one, or Colin Farrell. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>see the remake? No? Although I heard the Robo Cup

0:21:27.359 --> 0:21:30.879
<v Speaker 1>remake was like surprisingly good, I haven't seen expecting that.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen it either. Yeah, that's why I'll definitely

0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:37.439
<v Speaker 1>wait for TV for that one. You know, Uh, you

0:21:37.520 --> 0:21:40.400
<v Speaker 1>really don't care about seeing that one. Not even DVD

0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:45.720
<v Speaker 1>like TV. Well, I don't watch DVDs, Okay, I'm streaming

0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:49.080
<v Speaker 1>like the rest of the modern world. Not even a

0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:55.480
<v Speaker 1>laser disk Uh, should we talk about what it's like there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>on the surface, Yes, the surface of Mars Um scientists

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<v Speaker 1>have divided into three major parts, the Southern Highlands, the

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<v Speaker 1>northern plains, and the polar regions, which we already said

0:22:07.000 --> 0:22:10.280
<v Speaker 1>you can actually see from Earth polar ice caps. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just like Earth, but the ice caps are made of

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<v Speaker 1>carbon dioxide, so it's dry ice ice caps, and then

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<v Speaker 1>underneath there's water ice yea. So the southern highlands are vast.

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<v Speaker 1>I love our morning shows. It's always a little more

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<v Speaker 1>like laid back. I feel like, yeah, like I'm sleepy. Yeah,

0:22:28.760 --> 0:22:32.879
<v Speaker 1>you're not riddled with anxieties yet. That comes on about noon. Yeah,

0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:35.560
<v Speaker 1>I haven't had enough coffee yet. So you've got your

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<v Speaker 1>Southern Highlands, and like I said, they are extensive and vast,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, it is elevated. It's the the highest part

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<v Speaker 1>of Mars and heavily cratered and again the highest part

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<v Speaker 1>of the solar system, right, because that's where Olympus Moms is.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right in the southern region, the Southern highlands. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And they scientists think it's ancient um these highlands because

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<v Speaker 1>of the craters, because the cratering happened close to four

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<v Speaker 1>billion years ago, and that was just meteors kind of

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<v Speaker 1>just pounding the solar system all over the place. So

0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:09.280
<v Speaker 1>the southern Highlands are high and then there's a very

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<v Speaker 1>um pronounced drop of several kilometers down to the um

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<v Speaker 1>northern plains, which are low lying regions. There are a

0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:22.480
<v Speaker 1>lot like the seas on the Moon um but they

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<v Speaker 1>do feature raised areas plateaus, a couple of them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the cinder cones. Yeah, well, the cinder cones are on

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<v Speaker 1>the plateaus. I think basically the mantle bulged up through

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<v Speaker 1>the crust. It's thinner in the northern region and the

0:23:36.280 --> 0:23:41.560
<v Speaker 1>mantle just pushed up and formed like continent sized plateaus. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>That are called crustal upwarps. That's a great word. Yeah,

0:23:45.040 --> 0:23:49.120
<v Speaker 1>I kept thinking I was reading it wrong. Nope, crystal upwarps. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And the these crystal upwarps, there's two of them. One

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<v Speaker 1>is the smaller it's Elysium membered Paradise that right, and

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<v Speaker 1>the other one is called Tharsis. Arcis in the Northern

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<v Speaker 1>Hemisphere is divided into eastern and western hemispheres. Tharsis is

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<v Speaker 1>in the west and Elysium is in the east. Yes,

0:24:09.240 --> 0:24:11.879
<v Speaker 1>celestial names are so cool, it really are You know,

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<v Speaker 1>what do we have on earth? New Jersey not thar No,

0:24:18.600 --> 0:24:25.040
<v Speaker 1>we start a campaign to rename New Jersey tharsus Um

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<v Speaker 1>and then like the main city could be Tharsist City,

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<v Speaker 1>which sounds super futuristic, and in fact it's Newark. Every

0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:38.240
<v Speaker 1>citizens issued to sparkly silver jumps. Oh. U, so you've

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<v Speaker 1>called out Olympus Mons is the highest point. That is

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<v Speaker 1>where in the it's in the region which this article

0:24:44.760 --> 0:24:47.960
<v Speaker 1>is confusing because it mentions the sarsest Reason region in

0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:52.680
<v Speaker 1>the southern um the hemisphere and in the northern hemisphere. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And I looked all over the place to find definitively

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<v Speaker 1>where it is. And I think the discrepancy comes from

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that it's equatory. Okay, it's pretty close to

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<v Speaker 1>the equator. Olympus Mons definitely is. So maybe it's both right,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's about at that point, um that the uh,

0:25:11.800 --> 0:25:16.359
<v Speaker 1>the highlands drop off into the northern plains. That's right.

0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:20.920
<v Speaker 1>And Uh, in Tharcis you have some pretty impressive canyons um,

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<v Speaker 1>a system called the Vallis Marineris and it makes the

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<v Speaker 1>Grand Canyon look like a tiny little hole in the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>It is three hundred and seventy miles wide and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six thousand, four hundred feet deep, not to slam the

0:25:36.840 --> 0:25:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Grand Canyon, but if you've ever been there, imagine something

0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:42.679
<v Speaker 1>dwarfing that even, right, And again, Mars is half the

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<v Speaker 1>size of Earth, right, and it doesn't even just dwarf

0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:48.640
<v Speaker 1>the Grand Canyon. It's bigger than the Mariana Trench, which

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<v Speaker 1>is eighty miles long. So it's a good thousand miles

0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:56.040
<v Speaker 1>longer than the Mariana Trench. And the Mariana Trench is

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<v Speaker 1>forty three miles wide. The Vallis Marina Harris is seventy

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<v Speaker 1>miles wide. Yeah, that's nuts. Yeah, So it's a big

0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:07.280
<v Speaker 1>old trench. Like you can't even comprehend that kind of

0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:09.879
<v Speaker 1>size when you're standing there, No, imagine when you're in it.

0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:12.680
<v Speaker 1>You can't see the edges or anything like that. So

0:26:12.800 --> 0:26:14.679
<v Speaker 1>you're just of course, you can't be in it because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, people can't go to Mars. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know what you mean, we will eventually, you think

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk predicts he will retire and die and be

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<v Speaker 1>buried on Mars. That's what he's he said. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>a certainty, but it's a possibility, but that's his goal. Yeah. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>Well he's got the dough to make it happen, I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>and the vision, Like you say the same thing, but

0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:37.199
<v Speaker 1>you've just got the vision, right, you don't have the

0:26:37.240 --> 0:26:40.800
<v Speaker 1>billions of dollars. And it's not even my vision. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just reporting what Elon Musk said. You know, oh I

0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:45.320
<v Speaker 1>thought you wanted to do that as well. Now go

0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:47.200
<v Speaker 1>to Mars. You want to get shot out of a cannon.

0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:51.440
<v Speaker 1>I would I abandoned that a long time ago. Yeah, Um,

0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:56.240
<v Speaker 1>what's the new plan? Just to be cremated? Yeah, distributed

0:26:56.320 --> 0:26:59.800
<v Speaker 1>with youmi? Okay, that's nice. Yeah, she's really calmed you down.

0:26:59.880 --> 0:27:03.239
<v Speaker 1>She is like, first, first things first, this cannonball thing, right,

0:27:03.320 --> 0:27:08.080
<v Speaker 1>it's gotta go. Um, the polar regions you can see

0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:10.159
<v Speaker 1>from Earth, like we said, and it is surrounded by

0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:13.520
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of dunes and they are like I think

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:16.840
<v Speaker 1>you said, it was frozen carbon dioxide, right, So it's

0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:18.520
<v Speaker 1>not like the ice we have here on Earth. No,

0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:20.520
<v Speaker 1>it's well, we have it here on Earth, dry ice.

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:22.600
<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, but just it's not our polar ice cap.

0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 1>And like Earth, depending on the season, the ice caps

0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:30.639
<v Speaker 1>are going to change shape in the summertime, the CEO

0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:35.200
<v Speaker 1>two from the northern caps uh melt away and and

0:27:35.680 --> 0:27:39.760
<v Speaker 1>there's water ice below that, so not dry ice as

0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:43.680
<v Speaker 1>they call it in Spanish agua ice. And that's why

0:27:43.680 --> 0:27:47.199
<v Speaker 1>apparently we sent the Phoenix there. Uh. They were like,

0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:49.520
<v Speaker 1>send that thing up there and dig down into the

0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:53.199
<v Speaker 1>frozen dirt and let's see what what it's made up of.

0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:58.960
<v Speaker 1>And they found water. They found uh two points. Phoenix

0:27:59.000 --> 0:28:03.880
<v Speaker 1>didn't find it. Phoenix found like found uh that the

0:28:03.920 --> 0:28:07.399
<v Speaker 1>Martian soil is filled with perchlorate, which is a big

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:11.199
<v Speaker 1>problem for Mars missions. Yeah, that's like very bad for

0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 1>human beings. It's extremely toxic. It's a thyroid toxin has

0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:19.639
<v Speaker 1>a very quick effect um as a developmental effect on

0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:24.200
<v Speaker 1>infants and um fetuses, So reproducing on Mars would be

0:28:24.240 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 1>a big problem. And even in adults, it has a

0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:31.320
<v Speaker 1>big effect on your thyroid, which affects your hormone production

0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:35.600
<v Speaker 1>function UM. And it's everywhere. It's in the light Martian

0:28:35.720 --> 0:28:38.960
<v Speaker 1>dust and Mars has tons of dust storms that enveloped

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 1>the whole planet, which we'll talk about for like weeks

0:28:41.360 --> 0:28:43.959
<v Speaker 1>at a time. Yeah, and there there's pe chloric in

0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:46.920
<v Speaker 1>those dust storms, so it would get everywhere. So they

0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:50.560
<v Speaker 1>just found out like a couple of months ago that

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:53.280
<v Speaker 1>this is everywhere and it's going to be a huge

0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 1>challenge to Mars missions in the future. But they're saying,

0:28:56.520 --> 0:28:59.560
<v Speaker 1>now that we know about it, we can design around it. Yeah,

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:03.840
<v Speaker 1>it's just seems so uninhabitable, Like, I don't know if

0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:06.280
<v Speaker 1>our lifetime we're going to see it a manned mission.

0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:10.360
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we'll definitely see a fly by. Yeah, yeah, a

0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:15.520
<v Speaker 1>man fly by. Yeah. Okay, you and Elon Musk, we will.

0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:19.200
<v Speaker 1>That's not even just for this Elon Musk in the

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:26.720
<v Speaker 1>Senate Okay, yeah, Marr. They're all so excited. So Chucker's

0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:53.360
<v Speaker 1>up next. We're going to talk about the interior of Mars. Okay,

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:56.840
<v Speaker 1>so we're back and we're talking about Mars's interior. And

0:29:56.840 --> 0:30:00.760
<v Speaker 1>to talk about Mars interior is really boring unless you

0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:02.920
<v Speaker 1>compare to Earth, and then all of a sudden you're like, oh,

0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:06.520
<v Speaker 1>this is cool. So let's compare to Earth. The Earth's

0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:10.880
<v Speaker 1>core is um has a radius of about from the

0:30:10.920 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 1>center to the surface, and is made up of iron

0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:17.440
<v Speaker 1>in two parts, the solid core and the liquid outer core,

0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:21.840
<v Speaker 1>and the interplay between those two creates Earth's magnetic field,

0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 1>which allows for the northern lights. Oh yeah, encompasses what else, Ah,

0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:37.680
<v Speaker 1>that's about it. Okay. Mars's core radius is only about

0:30:37.760 --> 0:30:43.600
<v Speaker 1>nine um and between nine miles and it is probably

0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:46.520
<v Speaker 1>made up also of iron, but throwing some sulfur, maybe

0:30:46.560 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 1>a little oxygen. And they believe, Uh, I don't. I

0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:53.719
<v Speaker 1>didn't get this. He said it may be made up

0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:57.160
<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe molten, but it's unlikely. So they still don't know.

0:30:57.320 --> 0:31:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I guess. And they think that The reason they don't

0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:03.920
<v Speaker 1>think that it's molten, though, is because Mars has a

0:31:04.040 --> 0:31:09.160
<v Speaker 1>very weak magnetic field. Um, but maybe not always. Yeah,

0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:11.520
<v Speaker 1>it probably had a strong magnetic field and the and

0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:15.720
<v Speaker 1>before the great desiccation event, um, but now it doesn't have.

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:18.600
<v Speaker 1>When they think that if it is molten, it's not.

0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:21.720
<v Speaker 1>There's not a lot to it. Okay, Yeah, that makes sense.

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:27.280
<v Speaker 1>Around the Earth, score is softer mantle like toothpaste, and

0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:30.320
<v Speaker 1>it's way less dense than it is iron and magnesium

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 1>silicate about eighteen hundred miles thick. And that's when you

0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:38.000
<v Speaker 1>see a volcano and lava flowing from a volcano. That's

0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 1>where that's coming from. Well, it comes from the magma

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:44.600
<v Speaker 1>through there the liquid all right, isn't it. I think

0:31:44.640 --> 0:31:47.800
<v Speaker 1>so we did a podcast on volcanos. You think you

0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:52.240
<v Speaker 1>remember that was a good one, the volcanos one, I thought, so.

0:31:52.720 --> 0:31:56.240
<v Speaker 1>I was worried about it and chuck the mantle pushing

0:31:56.320 --> 0:32:00.800
<v Speaker 1>up through the through the surface. Yeah, counts for those

0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:07.080
<v Speaker 1>crustal uplifts, up up warps, up warps, that's right. Um.

0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:11.240
<v Speaker 1>And here on Earth we have things like volcanoes, active

0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:15.360
<v Speaker 1>volcanoes and earthquakes, and they're largely due to, if not

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 1>exclusively due to, um, the fact that we have continental

0:32:19.280 --> 0:32:23.200
<v Speaker 1>plates like the crust of Earth, which Mars also has

0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:26.360
<v Speaker 1>a crust, but Earth's crust is broken up into these

0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:29.000
<v Speaker 1>plates that drift and move around slowly and rub up

0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:32.800
<v Speaker 1>against one another. Um. And that's where the fault lines exist.

0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:35.680
<v Speaker 1>And along those fault lines you have volcanoes and earthquakes.

0:32:36.360 --> 0:32:39.160
<v Speaker 1>Mars that's not the case as a crust, but it's

0:32:39.160 --> 0:32:42.520
<v Speaker 1>not broken into plates. It's solid. Yeah. I thought that

0:32:42.560 --> 0:32:46.080
<v Speaker 1>was pretty interesting. And that's why there's no active volcanoes

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:50.320
<v Speaker 1>right now for one reason. Yeah. Yeah. Um. And we

0:32:50.400 --> 0:32:55.080
<v Speaker 1>while we're talking about Mars, well we probably should have

0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:57.680
<v Speaker 1>mentioned it on the surface, but it's a neat little

0:32:57.680 --> 0:33:00.240
<v Speaker 1>tidbit if you ask me, do you know I Mars

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 1>is rust colored? Uh no, because it's coated in rust. Yeah. Yeah,

0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 1>it's oxidized iron in the soil, which makes it rusted.

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:15.560
<v Speaker 1>It's a rusty old planet, a rusty, dusty, cold, windy,

0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:22.280
<v Speaker 1>uninhabitable perhaps planet. And again the reason why it's probably

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:28.760
<v Speaker 1>uninhabitable is it lacks an atmosphere, or it practically lacks

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:31.720
<v Speaker 1>an atmosphere. There is a very thin one still, Yeah,

0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:33.840
<v Speaker 1>I guess we can compare that to Earth to um.

0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Mars's atmosphere is mostly carbon dioxide. On Earth it's less

0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:43.400
<v Speaker 1>than one percent, right, Like you could just stop right there. Toxic,

0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:48.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot less nitrogen two point seven percent compared to

0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:51.800
<v Speaker 1>Earth seventy eight. Not much oxygen at all, only point

0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:57.320
<v Speaker 1>one three. That's a big factor. It's toxic again and

0:33:57.680 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 1>um about one as much water vapor as on Earth. Yeah,

0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:08.279
<v Speaker 1>you need that too, inhospitable, which is why they there

0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:13.840
<v Speaker 1>are proposals to seed Mars to terraform it. Yeah, basically

0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:18.400
<v Speaker 1>going and like artificially stimulate an atmosphere to form so

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:22.719
<v Speaker 1>that in ten thousand and fifty hundred thousand years it

0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:26.360
<v Speaker 1>could conceivably be habitable. Yeah, and we we did a

0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:28.279
<v Speaker 1>show on that too. Is all coming together. It's a

0:34:28.280 --> 0:34:31.839
<v Speaker 1>long term plan, but sure, which means we'll never do it.

0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk will maybe his grandchildren. Uh So. The atmospheric

0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:40.680
<v Speaker 1>pressure in Mars is interesting too. It's super low and

0:34:41.520 --> 0:34:45.080
<v Speaker 1>super cold, and that's why there is no water liquid

0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:49.640
<v Speaker 1>flowing because it's either going to freeze or evaporate. They

0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:53.400
<v Speaker 1>can't just exist as water these days. Nope. But like

0:34:53.440 --> 0:34:57.399
<v Speaker 1>we said, possibly probably did at one point. So you've

0:34:57.400 --> 0:35:00.840
<v Speaker 1>got a thin atmosphere, which means a lot of um

0:35:00.960 --> 0:35:06.000
<v Speaker 1>solar radiation is not blocked, is not reflected um, which

0:35:06.040 --> 0:35:10.280
<v Speaker 1>means that you have very wild swings in daily average

0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:14.520
<v Speaker 1>temperature on Mars. Because Mars does have a day, it

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:17.600
<v Speaker 1>does rotate, and actually it rotates it about the same

0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:21.920
<v Speaker 1>rate as Earth. The Mars salt which is short for

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:25.719
<v Speaker 1>solar day, it's just about forty three minutes longer than

0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:31.080
<v Speaker 1>um Earth's day. Yeah, but because it's further out away

0:35:31.120 --> 0:35:33.560
<v Speaker 1>from the Sun, it's orbit around the Sun takes longer.

0:35:33.880 --> 0:35:36.400
<v Speaker 1>So it's year is about twice as long as a

0:35:36.480 --> 0:35:39.560
<v Speaker 1>year on Earth. Six hundred and eighty six point nine

0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:44.359
<v Speaker 1>eight Earth days, which means the seasons last longer, which

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:47.200
<v Speaker 1>makes them more extreme as we'll see. Yeah, and you

0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:50.600
<v Speaker 1>talked about the temperature fluctuation. It's almost a hundred degrees

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:56.440
<v Speaker 1>fahrenheit on a daily basis. The difference in temperature, that's enormous. Again,

0:35:57.200 --> 0:36:00.680
<v Speaker 1>not very friendly for us humans. No, well figure it out.

0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:02.560
<v Speaker 1>You have to pack a big suitcase. You know, you

0:36:02.560 --> 0:36:06.120
<v Speaker 1>have to pack your your thong as well as your

0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:11.040
<v Speaker 1>Arctic explorer. Well, you could just wear a thong under

0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:15.440
<v Speaker 1>your artic explore coast there, it's the key to Mars.

0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Where layers pack big where layers. But like you said,

0:36:21.600 --> 0:36:23.799
<v Speaker 1>there are seasons in the spring and early summer, the

0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:28.279
<v Speaker 1>sun heats up the atmosphere and the dust lifts up

0:36:28.280 --> 0:36:30.279
<v Speaker 1>and and makes it even hotter once that dust is

0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:35.759
<v Speaker 1>in the atmosphere, and it basically is what causes those

0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:39.440
<v Speaker 1>big dust storms we're talking about. Yeah, the dust, the

0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:44.000
<v Speaker 1>dust particles get suspended and invite more heat, which suspends

0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:50.560
<v Speaker 1>more particles than um. It creates wind there winds. Yeah, well,

0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:54.160
<v Speaker 1>just like here on Earth, it creates convection cells, which

0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:58.320
<v Speaker 1>creates wind. And as those wind speeds whip up because

0:36:58.360 --> 0:37:01.120
<v Speaker 1>the atmosphere is thinner, you have to have higher speeds

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:04.680
<v Speaker 1>because the wind has less to push against air to

0:37:04.760 --> 0:37:08.200
<v Speaker 1>push against, so it takes higher speed winds. But once

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:10.279
<v Speaker 1>they do hit something like a hundred and twenty miles

0:37:10.320 --> 0:37:14.520
<v Speaker 1>an hour, the entire planet can become enveloped in a

0:37:14.600 --> 0:37:18.480
<v Speaker 1>dust storm that can last months. That's crazy. And again

0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 1>it's not just dust. It's dust with one of the

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:27.319
<v Speaker 1>more toxic compounds known to humanity in every bit of it. Yeah,

0:37:27.320 --> 0:37:29.200
<v Speaker 1>and it's not going to blow off a Mars rover

0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:32.640
<v Speaker 1>these things, you know, way like in the tons. Yeah,

0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:36.080
<v Speaker 1>I think theirsities one ton one ton. And actually what's

0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:39.560
<v Speaker 1>strange is the dust storms, it says, are um beneficial

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:43.800
<v Speaker 1>because they will blow the any um Martian dirt caked

0:37:43.840 --> 0:37:46.239
<v Speaker 1>on the solar panels. Yeah, that makes sense too, or

0:37:46.280 --> 0:37:49.120
<v Speaker 1>maybe it might reveal something, Yeah that wasn't there before,

0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:53.960
<v Speaker 1>like a pyramid. That'd be pretty cool, Chuck, I want

0:37:54.000 --> 0:37:56.840
<v Speaker 1>to talk about water on Mars. That was NASA's directive.

0:37:57.680 --> 0:38:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Follow the water for many years and still as because

0:38:00.520 --> 0:38:03.080
<v Speaker 1>they think they're in holds. The key to the big

0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:09.280
<v Speaker 1>question is there possibilities of having life on Mars? Is there? Life?

0:38:09.600 --> 0:38:13.080
<v Speaker 1>Was their life on Mars and we're not talking about Martians. Unfortunately,

0:38:13.160 --> 0:38:17.399
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about maybe bacteria which could be Martians. I mean,

0:38:17.400 --> 0:38:20.600
<v Speaker 1>if it lives on Mars, it's Martian. I guess it's

0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:23.200
<v Speaker 1>a good point. Everybody just basically needs to lower the

0:38:23.200 --> 0:38:27.799
<v Speaker 1>bar for their expectations of what a Martian is. Yeah, right,

0:38:27.960 --> 0:38:30.120
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, instead of little green men, right,

0:38:30.160 --> 0:38:33.640
<v Speaker 1>it's bacteria and um. When this article was written, it

0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:36.759
<v Speaker 1>was pre curiosity, but it just a couple of months

0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:42.480
<v Speaker 1>ago Curiosity confirmed, uh that there is water present in

0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:46.000
<v Speaker 1>the soil. Yeah, and they think it's everywhere. Yeah, it's

0:38:46.000 --> 0:38:50.400
<v Speaker 1>basically the soil has a very big leaching property, yeah,

0:38:50.400 --> 0:38:53.640
<v Speaker 1>where it absorbs water from the atmosphere and locks it

0:38:53.680 --> 0:38:56.960
<v Speaker 1>in there, so that if if we went up there,

0:38:57.000 --> 0:39:00.800
<v Speaker 1>we could extract um about, like A said, two pints

0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:03.640
<v Speaker 1>of water from every cubic foot of soil that's mine.

0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:06.840
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty cool. It is pretty cool. Again, though, we

0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:10.319
<v Speaker 1>have that per chlorate problem. It's everywhere. It would get

0:39:10.360 --> 0:39:11.880
<v Speaker 1>in the water, and one of the ways that it

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:15.680
<v Speaker 1>transfers to humans and becomes toxic is through drinking water,

0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:19.200
<v Speaker 1>so we'd have to deal with that. But ironically, the

0:39:19.239 --> 0:39:22.160
<v Speaker 1>thing about per chlorate being there, it's also used in

0:39:22.280 --> 0:39:25.200
<v Speaker 1>solid rocket fuel here on Earth. So we would need

0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:26.879
<v Speaker 1>it to get to Mars, but once we got to Mars,

0:39:26.960 --> 0:39:30.760
<v Speaker 1>we wouldn't want to have it. Interesting, that is very ironic. Thanks.

0:39:31.040 --> 0:39:34.520
<v Speaker 1>So you're talking, Chuck about how water could consuerably lead

0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:38.000
<v Speaker 1>to life on Mars. We it's vital to life. It's

0:39:38.000 --> 0:39:41.919
<v Speaker 1>one of the um vital parts of life. I can't

0:39:41.920 --> 0:39:46.640
<v Speaker 1>remember the term for him. Not a building block, one

0:39:46.640 --> 0:39:51.120
<v Speaker 1>of the essential some things for life component? Yes, yeah,

0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:54.000
<v Speaker 1>I think that is it essential component for life. We

0:39:54.120 --> 0:39:59.040
<v Speaker 1>worked that out together. This has been morning condition and no. No.

0:39:59.040 --> 0:40:01.880
<v Speaker 1>Now they found water on Mars and confirmed that it

0:40:01.960 --> 0:40:03.719
<v Speaker 1>is there, and they knew all along that there was

0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:08.480
<v Speaker 1>water ice on Mars. Um. It makes that Martian rock

0:40:08.960 --> 0:40:12.080
<v Speaker 1>from four billion years ago seem all the more likely

0:40:12.120 --> 0:40:16.360
<v Speaker 1>that it is displaying evidence of fossilized microbes. Yeah. And

0:40:16.360 --> 0:40:19.120
<v Speaker 1>they used to think that there was methane uh in

0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:21.600
<v Speaker 1>the atmosphere or trace amounts, but I think that has

0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:25.520
<v Speaker 1>been debunked now with upon further research. Yeah. Yeah, because

0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:28.719
<v Speaker 1>again when this article was written, it sounds like they

0:40:28.760 --> 0:40:32.040
<v Speaker 1>thought it was still like they still head detective methane

0:40:32.080 --> 0:40:35.040
<v Speaker 1>and they didn't know whether it was from of biological

0:40:35.120 --> 0:40:38.200
<v Speaker 1>or chemical origin. Yeah, more recent studies UM as of

0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:43.719
<v Speaker 1>October two thousand twelve, UM, they analyzed the atmosphere uh

0:40:44.640 --> 0:40:48.839
<v Speaker 1>for methane six times and basically found no more than

0:40:48.880 --> 0:40:51.879
<v Speaker 1>one point three parts per billion. Yeah, that's not good

0:40:51.920 --> 0:40:55.000
<v Speaker 1>for evidence of life. Yeah, and that's about one six

0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:59.239
<v Speaker 1>as much as they had previously estimated. And they thought, well,

0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:02.239
<v Speaker 1>maybe it went some where, you know, and and they

0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:05.560
<v Speaker 1>NASA said no, it wouldn't. UM. It would have been

0:41:05.560 --> 0:41:10.719
<v Speaker 1>super exciting, but it's methane doesn't uh distribute and leave

0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:13.320
<v Speaker 1>like that that quickly, like it would still be around.

0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:17.960
<v Speaker 1>So unfortunately, no methane. Speaking of methane UM as evidence

0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:21.560
<v Speaker 1>of life. Remember our termite episode, somebody wrote in to say,

0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:24.160
<v Speaker 1>did you know termites or like a huge contributor of

0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:28.040
<v Speaker 1>methane to on Earth. They're the second largest contributor of

0:41:28.080 --> 0:41:33.480
<v Speaker 1>methane after five stock. Yeah. Wow, even beating out humans. Wow,

0:41:33.520 --> 0:41:36.040
<v Speaker 1>that's crazy. Yeah, because we shoot a lot of ducks,

0:41:36.080 --> 0:41:42.520
<v Speaker 1>we humans, some of us termites have flatulent insects uh

0:41:42.719 --> 0:41:48.680
<v Speaker 1>so bacteria UM. Martian soil has been known to be

0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:52.560
<v Speaker 1>like formally chemically active, but maybe not biologically, but it

0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:57.560
<v Speaker 1>is possible maybe because they have a good example in Greenland. Um,

0:41:57.640 --> 0:42:00.280
<v Speaker 1>they found bacteria that was dormant for a hundred twenty

0:42:00.280 --> 0:42:04.400
<v Speaker 1>tho years frozen in the ice, and when they unfroze it,

0:42:04.400 --> 0:42:08.600
<v Speaker 1>it started multiplying again in the beginning of the apocalypse. Yeah,

0:42:08.760 --> 0:42:12.360
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of creepy. Yeah, but like it's not stopping.

0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Possibly in the polar ice caps on Mars. Maybe that's

0:42:14.960 --> 0:42:17.080
<v Speaker 1>going on to Yeah, we just don't know yet. Yeah,

0:42:17.080 --> 0:42:20.040
<v Speaker 1>they think that, um, it is very possible that you

0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:23.040
<v Speaker 1>could take some of them, the extreme of file bacteria,

0:42:23.120 --> 0:42:27.480
<v Speaker 1>ones that live like in um volcanic vents undersea and

0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:30.560
<v Speaker 1>things like that, and transplant them two Mars and some

0:42:30.640 --> 0:42:35.879
<v Speaker 1>of them would survive, especially mineral thriving um bacteria ones

0:42:35.920 --> 0:42:39.400
<v Speaker 1>that like eat minerals. You could put them on Mars

0:42:39.400 --> 0:42:43.640
<v Speaker 1>and they would they would do Okay. Possibly well spaceships

0:42:43.719 --> 0:42:47.279
<v Speaker 1>like if we could possibly bring our own bacteria there

0:42:47.320 --> 0:42:50.920
<v Speaker 1>by accident as well, you know, just from like I

0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:53.880
<v Speaker 1>think the International Space Station had E. Colid in it. Yeah,

0:42:53.920 --> 0:42:58.680
<v Speaker 1>and possibly lee Jonella retainers disease on the I S

0:42:58.680 --> 0:43:01.720
<v Speaker 1>I Wow, Yeah, or the I S S. That sounds

0:43:01.719 --> 0:43:05.239
<v Speaker 1>like a like a movie waiting to happen. Sure, I

0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:08.600
<v Speaker 1>guess we sort of did that with Outland. Was there?

0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:11.400
<v Speaker 1>Was it a disease? A disease? It was just a

0:43:11.400 --> 0:43:15.440
<v Speaker 1>cop chasing a bad guy. Again. I wonder if it

0:43:15.440 --> 0:43:19.200
<v Speaker 1>holds up. I doubt it. Yeah, if it held up,

0:43:19.200 --> 0:43:22.920
<v Speaker 1>it'd be alien like, it would still be in the rotation.

0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:25.320
<v Speaker 1>But Outline doesn't play on cable very often, you know,

0:43:25.600 --> 0:43:29.680
<v Speaker 1>it really doesn't. That is pretty good evidence too. I

0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:34.000
<v Speaker 1>remember the Outland Mad magazine. Um, but I didn't have

0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:37.000
<v Speaker 1>that one. Yeah, that was a good one. Um So Chuck,

0:43:37.080 --> 0:43:40.880
<v Speaker 1>You remember we were talking about way back how the

0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:47.319
<v Speaker 1>um Viking and um mariner and Mars orbiters provided this

0:43:47.480 --> 0:43:50.520
<v Speaker 1>evidence that Mars was just a dead, barren planet and

0:43:50.719 --> 0:43:53.640
<v Speaker 1>really undermine the idea that there was possibly life there

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:57.600
<v Speaker 1>and that it was lush. Yeah. Well it also provided

0:43:58.000 --> 0:44:02.600
<v Speaker 1>some conspiracy theorists pretty solid evidence that there was or

0:44:02.880 --> 0:44:07.480
<v Speaker 1>is some sort of civilization on Mars, because yeah, Viking

0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:11.760
<v Speaker 1>one in nineteen seventies six produced a photo that looked

0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:18.239
<v Speaker 1>a whole lot like a fernic type face, like the

0:44:18.320 --> 0:44:21.719
<v Speaker 1>face on Mars. Pretty clearly a face if you look

0:44:21.760 --> 0:44:25.239
<v Speaker 1>at it. Uh, it was two miles from head to

0:44:25.280 --> 0:44:28.160
<v Speaker 1>toe from tip to bottom. So it wasn't like Jesus

0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:30.560
<v Speaker 1>on a piece of toast. No, I mean it looked

0:44:30.640 --> 0:44:35.279
<v Speaker 1>like it looked like a artificially constructed monument, a face

0:44:35.320 --> 0:44:37.360
<v Speaker 1>of a monument. Maybe when that had toppled, it was

0:44:37.400 --> 0:44:41.640
<v Speaker 1>now just poking out from the Martian soul soil. Um.

0:44:41.680 --> 0:44:45.600
<v Speaker 1>So they looked uh, closer in, but there's a lot

0:44:45.600 --> 0:44:48.759
<v Speaker 1>of cloud cover, so they got kind of a garbled look.

0:44:49.200 --> 0:44:52.040
<v Speaker 1>And they looked again more recently, maybe two thousand eight

0:44:52.160 --> 0:44:55.120
<v Speaker 1>or two thousand eleven, and it's very clearly just a

0:44:55.160 --> 0:44:59.799
<v Speaker 1>mesa that's disappointing. It is, especially like when you look

0:44:59.840 --> 0:45:03.120
<v Speaker 1>at that original Yeah, yeah, when you look at the

0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Viking one photo, Yeah, it looks like a top old

0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:08.799
<v Speaker 1>statue head. Yeah it does. It actually factored into that

0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:14.400
<v Speaker 1>terrible movie um Mission to Mars, Yeah wow, which I

0:45:14.440 --> 0:45:17.480
<v Speaker 1>saw with hippie rob By the way. Oh really yeah? Nice?

0:45:17.880 --> 0:45:19.719
<v Speaker 1>Was that is the last time you saw him? It

0:45:19.840 --> 0:45:21.880
<v Speaker 1>was among that he just walked into the woods after that,

0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:26.359
<v Speaker 1>never to be seen. Wasn't that that was Brian to Palm,

0:45:26.360 --> 0:45:30.400
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't it. I think it might have been so disappointing.

0:45:30.520 --> 0:45:33.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it had an all starcust Gary Sinise, don Cheetle.

0:45:35.040 --> 0:45:39.680
<v Speaker 1>I think Bill Paxton Maybe I don't think it was Pullman,

0:45:40.040 --> 0:45:43.760
<v Speaker 1>but I might be confusing Bill Paxton from Apollo thirteen. Anyway,

0:45:44.320 --> 0:45:47.759
<v Speaker 1>it didn't pan out very well. What do you got

0:45:47.760 --> 0:45:50.520
<v Speaker 1>anything else? Yeah? Um, I don't know why this article

0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:53.799
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mention if Mars has two moons, phobos and demos. Yeah,

0:45:53.800 --> 0:45:57.680
<v Speaker 1>they didn't get into that at all. No, um and uh,

0:45:58.360 --> 0:46:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Mars popped up and pops up in pop culture a lot.

0:46:03.040 --> 0:46:08.680
<v Speaker 1>There's um, the Mars Volta the band. Yeah. Uh. David

0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:10.840
<v Speaker 1>Bowie had a song called Life on Mars, one of

0:46:10.880 --> 0:46:14.200
<v Speaker 1>the great songs. The Misfits had the greatest Mars song,

0:46:14.600 --> 0:46:19.120
<v Speaker 1>Teenagers from Mars. That's a great song. Yeah. Oh what's

0:46:19.160 --> 0:46:23.960
<v Speaker 1>his name? Jared Leto right thirty seconds to Mars. Yeah,

0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:27.120
<v Speaker 1>they're going on tour right after his oscar Win. I

0:46:27.120 --> 0:46:30.200
<v Speaker 1>had never heard any of his music until the other day.

0:46:30.320 --> 0:46:32.040
<v Speaker 1>I was like, what are they like? And Emily tried

0:46:32.040 --> 0:46:33.920
<v Speaker 1>to describe it. Then she just played a song. Yeah,

0:46:34.000 --> 0:46:36.359
<v Speaker 1>it's not my bag, mine anything, but good for him.

0:46:36.480 --> 0:46:39.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I think they're like huge internationally. Yeah, he's

0:46:39.239 --> 0:46:41.440
<v Speaker 1>got gout. Did you know that? I did not know

0:46:41.520 --> 0:46:43.560
<v Speaker 1>that he needs to lay off the pet Noah, I

0:46:43.600 --> 0:46:46.239
<v Speaker 1>think he um. I think it was had to do

0:46:46.280 --> 0:46:50.080
<v Speaker 1>with his weight gain and loss for the John Lennon

0:46:50.760 --> 0:46:54.839
<v Speaker 1>Um the Mark David Chapman movie. He did, Oh really, Yeah,

0:46:54.880 --> 0:46:56.759
<v Speaker 1>he got all fat to play Mark David Chapman, then

0:46:56.800 --> 0:46:58.719
<v Speaker 1>like got all skinny again, I think, got gout because

0:46:58.760 --> 0:47:01.000
<v Speaker 1>of it, and then got even anywhere to play Rayon

0:47:01.080 --> 0:47:04.720
<v Speaker 1>in Dallas Buyers Club. Dude, have you seen it? Yes?

0:47:05.360 --> 0:47:08.399
<v Speaker 1>How thin can two people get? And they were pretty thin?

0:47:08.880 --> 0:47:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Like the two of them together make me. And there's

0:47:12.120 --> 0:47:15.560
<v Speaker 1>gotta be like that. There's gotta be a safe way

0:47:15.800 --> 0:47:20.040
<v Speaker 1>to lose and regain weight. Yeah, but I'll bet there's

0:47:20.080 --> 0:47:23.359
<v Speaker 1>not very many safe ways to gain weight to make

0:47:23.400 --> 0:47:26.399
<v Speaker 1>yourself look pudgy, no, I mean, and then to lose

0:47:26.440 --> 0:47:28.440
<v Speaker 1>it again, I'll bet when it's been done, like from

0:47:28.520 --> 0:47:31.799
<v Speaker 1>DeNiro to Fat mac On always sunny. I think they

0:47:31.800 --> 0:47:35.880
<v Speaker 1>say they just eat like lots of garbage and just

0:47:35.920 --> 0:47:38.879
<v Speaker 1>pile it on. Yeah, that's not I'll beat at all now.

0:47:38.920 --> 0:47:40.480
<v Speaker 1>But you know that's one of my pet peeves. When

0:47:40.520 --> 0:47:42.560
<v Speaker 1>you take a fit person in like the game thirty

0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Pounds for a movie and it it's like you don't

0:47:45.000 --> 0:47:47.120
<v Speaker 1>look like a fatter person, and you look like a

0:47:47.160 --> 0:47:52.160
<v Speaker 1>fit person who like has a distended belly. You know,

0:47:53.080 --> 0:47:56.640
<v Speaker 1>it takes years to get this look. You know you

0:47:56.719 --> 0:48:00.840
<v Speaker 1>gotta work at it, sculpt this. Yeah, Um, okay, you

0:48:00.880 --> 0:48:02.960
<v Speaker 1>got anything else? I got nothing else. I think this

0:48:03.040 --> 0:48:06.640
<v Speaker 1>is better than the sun. Oh yeah. As far as

0:48:06.640 --> 0:48:09.960
<v Speaker 1>our our celestial episodes go far less physics that we

0:48:10.000 --> 0:48:12.640
<v Speaker 1>had to deal with. We haven't done the moon straight up?

0:48:12.680 --> 0:48:16.040
<v Speaker 1>Have we? I think we have? Have we, Jerry? Have

0:48:16.120 --> 0:48:18.520
<v Speaker 1>we done the moon? I think we did because we

0:48:18.560 --> 0:48:21.759
<v Speaker 1>talked about its origin, whether it was calved, whether it

0:48:21.880 --> 0:48:25.239
<v Speaker 1>was a separate decreation. I'm pretty sure we've done the moon.

0:48:25.480 --> 0:48:27.759
<v Speaker 1>All right, we'll look it up. Is getting bad? We

0:48:27.800 --> 0:48:30.440
<v Speaker 1>need we need to get a list together, so we

0:48:30.520 --> 0:48:34.080
<v Speaker 1>quit boring everyone with this. Yeah, you'd think we'd edited out,

0:48:34.120 --> 0:48:37.640
<v Speaker 1>but we just don't. Well, if you want to learn

0:48:37.640 --> 0:48:40.080
<v Speaker 1>more about Mars, you can type that word into the

0:48:40.080 --> 0:48:42.960
<v Speaker 1>search bar at how stuff works dot com. And Uh,

0:48:43.120 --> 0:48:52.160
<v Speaker 1>since I said search bar, it's time for listener mail. Uh, Josh,

0:48:52.239 --> 0:48:54.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna call this um your theory on eating what

0:48:54.800 --> 0:48:58.400
<v Speaker 1>you crave? Did you see this email? No? Um, just

0:48:58.440 --> 0:49:01.520
<v Speaker 1>listen to the Salt podcast Dude and Josh posture that

0:49:01.560 --> 0:49:03.760
<v Speaker 1>you could get along just fine eating only what you crave.

0:49:04.080 --> 0:49:07.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure how serious he was, though fairly serious,

0:49:07.160 --> 0:49:09.879
<v Speaker 1>fairly okay, I'll agree that if it depends on whether

0:49:09.880 --> 0:49:12.600
<v Speaker 1>the right I'll agree that a hundred and fifty years

0:49:12.600 --> 0:49:14.600
<v Speaker 1>ago this may have been pretty viable. But these days

0:49:14.600 --> 0:49:17.400
<v Speaker 1>it's a different story. There's a lot of evidence that

0:49:17.440 --> 0:49:21.160
<v Speaker 1>points to food manufacturers actually designing junk foods that make

0:49:21.239 --> 0:49:24.280
<v Speaker 1>you crave more of them, mainly sugar and fat heavy foods.

0:49:24.760 --> 0:49:27.239
<v Speaker 1>There's one great book in particular called Good Calories, Bad

0:49:27.280 --> 0:49:30.479
<v Speaker 1>Calories by Gary Tobbs, basically tells the story of how

0:49:30.880 --> 0:49:32.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of what the f d A in U

0:49:32.560 --> 0:49:35.160
<v Speaker 1>s d A recommends as wrong and how it got

0:49:35.239 --> 0:49:38.240
<v Speaker 1>that way. For instance, the guy who conducted the seven

0:49:38.280 --> 0:49:41.359
<v Speaker 1>country study, which is what caused the government to say

0:49:41.400 --> 0:49:45.719
<v Speaker 1>fat will kill you, simply throughout data that contradicted the

0:49:45.719 --> 0:49:48.759
<v Speaker 1>result he was looking for. Throwing the fact that corn

0:49:48.800 --> 0:49:51.400
<v Speaker 1>is subsidized and super cheap, we have the recipe for

0:49:51.440 --> 0:49:55.279
<v Speaker 1>an obese, misinformed population that's addicted to sugar. Has been

0:49:55.320 --> 0:49:58.279
<v Speaker 1>fed terribly wrong information about health for a long time. Yeah,

0:49:58.680 --> 0:50:01.840
<v Speaker 1>I've learned recently, like you're supposed to have fats, and

0:50:01.880 --> 0:50:03.920
<v Speaker 1>there are good fats and there are bad fats, but

0:50:03.960 --> 0:50:07.399
<v Speaker 1>like low fat is a not a good way to go,

0:50:08.239 --> 0:50:12.960
<v Speaker 1>and it has been kind of foisted on us, foisted Jerry.

0:50:13.040 --> 0:50:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Jerry likes the value that word uh. And that is

0:50:15.680 --> 0:50:19.080
<v Speaker 1>from Steve Baum, the bomber in what he calls good

0:50:19.080 --> 0:50:26.279
<v Speaker 1>Old New Jersey or as we calls Parsis. Is he

0:50:26.400 --> 0:50:29.080
<v Speaker 1>from Tharsus City, That is Steeve Bomb. I don't know

0:50:29.120 --> 0:50:31.000
<v Speaker 1>if he's from Sarcas City or not, but he's from

0:50:31.040 --> 0:50:39.080
<v Speaker 1>somewhere in dars There is a really good article about um,

0:50:39.280 --> 0:50:45.279
<v Speaker 1>how food scientists engineer foods to make us crave them

0:50:45.480 --> 0:50:46.919
<v Speaker 1>is on the New York Times. It was a couple

0:50:46.960 --> 0:50:49.279
<v Speaker 1>of years ago by a guy named Michael Moss. Yeah,

0:50:49.320 --> 0:50:51.759
<v Speaker 1>and in your defense, I don't think you were. I

0:50:51.800 --> 0:50:55.080
<v Speaker 1>think you meant it more along the lines of craving

0:50:55.480 --> 0:50:58.320
<v Speaker 1>real foods and not necessarily I'm craving ben and Jerry's

0:50:58.400 --> 0:51:02.319
<v Speaker 1>or pretzels, you know, i' meant like like craving a

0:51:02.360 --> 0:51:05.760
<v Speaker 1>steak or something like that, not ignoring that and going

0:51:05.800 --> 0:51:10.719
<v Speaker 1>with you know, ahead of lettuce Um. I can't find

0:51:10.719 --> 0:51:12.920
<v Speaker 1>the name of that article, but it's a Michael Moss

0:51:13.040 --> 0:51:16.200
<v Speaker 1>article and it's from the New York Times, and dude,

0:51:16.280 --> 0:51:19.120
<v Speaker 1>it is good. It's one of those really extensive long

0:51:19.200 --> 0:51:22.080
<v Speaker 1>form ones that like should be long form because there's

0:51:22.120 --> 0:51:25.319
<v Speaker 1>just so much great information in it by opening ye

0:51:25.760 --> 0:51:29.319
<v Speaker 1>So look it up, everybody. It will open your eyes. Uh.

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