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Speaker 1: wa with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and
Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Tuesday, October seventeenth, twenty seventeen, season thirteen,
Speaker 1: episode number fifty five. Welcome to another edition of The Break,
Speaker 1: live on the SWBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. And
Speaker 1: there's a lot for us to get into today. It's
Speaker 1: been a little while since we've been on the air.
Speaker 1: We had a nice little bye week. There a couple
Speaker 1: of days to just kind of kick back. Don't look
Speaker 1: like that, Dave. You had a couple of days to
Speaker 1: kind of kick back. And I was on the air
Speaker 1: yesterday and Thursday. I think, yeah, but Friday, Saturday, Sunday,
Speaker 1: you didn't have to do anything, all right. So I
Speaker 1: was saying the little break saying, relatively speaking, yeah, you're
Speaker 1: right all right? How you doing? Nick? Good? Good? Amber Good?
Speaker 1: Nick has this lawyer face on because I don't have
Speaker 1: a lawyer face, and I'm not about to talk. I'm
Speaker 1: really not about to tell you anything. You're not. I
Speaker 1: talked a little bit about what's going on. I try
Speaker 1: to figure some stuff out, but I only had like
Speaker 1: five minutes, so it's gonna take a lot more than that. Oh,
Speaker 1: we got a whole hour, so you can you can
Speaker 1: definitely just feel it on whatever you know. We'll get
Speaker 1: into that in just a second. We'll also spend some
Speaker 1: time to day talking about the NFC East. All the
Speaker 1: teams in the NFC East except for the Cowboys, played
Speaker 1: last weekend. All of them won. We'll see if what
Speaker 1: you guys are thinking about this NFC East and uh,
Speaker 1: and if maybe these giants who are who were winless
Speaker 1: until last weekend can possibly get on a role here
Speaker 1: and maybe beat some teams you want them to beat
Speaker 1: here in the second half of the season. All right,
Speaker 1: before we start, I mean, let's go ahead and get
Speaker 1: into it and talk a little bit about this, this
Speaker 1: situation with Ezekiel Elliott. Uh, there's a lot that's still
Speaker 1: going on. As of last Friday, Nick, you guys jumped
Speaker 1: on the air and did I thought a really good
Speaker 1: show for you guys that didn't hear it talking about
Speaker 1: the Zeke situation and the fact that now the NFL
Speaker 1: is reinstated, they were allowed by the courts to reinstate
Speaker 1: the suspension UM. And then as of yesterday, I think
Speaker 1: there was some filings that happened with Zeke's team tell
Speaker 1: us about I guess what's happening right now, What should
Speaker 1: fans be looking looking at and what should they be
Speaker 1: paying attention to with regards to axiculoity. Well, I think
Speaker 1: today they are. They're meeting again today in New York.
Speaker 1: They're trying to the NFLPA is trying to get another
Speaker 1: I guess restraining order or stay for the suspension they're
Speaker 1: trying to to, which I think would only last fourteen
Speaker 1: days um. Because what they're trying to do is get
Speaker 1: all of the twelve twelve circuit judges I guess together
Speaker 1: for this and while they're doing that, they're hoping to
Speaker 1: get a stay for this so so he will continue
Speaker 1: to play would block the suspension again right until they
Speaker 1: can get all those so they can get them all
Speaker 1: together together to be able to hear it. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: that which apparently takes forever to do that. So the
Speaker 1: nfl PA is hoping to get you know, while this happens,
Speaker 1: to get a stay so so as he can continue
Speaker 1: to play. And that's that's what I think. It's going
Speaker 1: to be ruled on today at one thirty, So maybe
Speaker 1: this afternoon we'll find out if he's going to play
Speaker 1: in this game. But I mean, there's so many more
Speaker 1: layers to this, you know, and and we can get
Speaker 1: into a little bit more about why he's doing that day.
Speaker 1: You might know more about what's happening this week or today,
Speaker 1: or I know there's a ruling today that's going to
Speaker 1: determine I mean, I was under the impression it might
Speaker 1: determine his status period because if he doesn't get this,
Speaker 1: there's not a whole lot else he can do, right, right,
Speaker 1: if he goes against him, then he's kind of waiting
Speaker 1: until they get those all those judges together and then
Speaker 1: they would hear the case. Basically, the way I understand
Speaker 1: it is that today is about getting the stay until
Speaker 1: they can get together to actually hear the case and
Speaker 1: then make a ruling. But the problem is if you
Speaker 1: don't get to stay, then who knows how long that's
Speaker 1: going to take. And all that time as of as
Speaker 1: of yet, as a Friday, the NFL said he's suspended,
Speaker 1: could theoretically serve his whole suspension while he's waiting. While
Speaker 1: he's waiting, correct, Yeah, yeah, which Again, if his goal
Speaker 1: at the end of the day is to clear his name,
Speaker 1: then it's kind of irrelevant if he has to serve
Speaker 1: the six game suspension and then the court case continues.
Speaker 1: He still wants to have the court case because he
Speaker 1: wants to be able to clear his name. But you're right,
Speaker 1: it could happen that the courts take so long if
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a stay, the courts take so long
Speaker 1: that he serves a suspension anyway, which would seem to
Speaker 1: be a bit of a travesty, especially if he should
Speaker 1: win the court case at some point. Yeah, which, and
Speaker 1: by no means, and I am I an expert on this,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm more and more out of my
Speaker 1: depth every time this thing takes a turn. But I'm
Speaker 1: I'm not under the impression that he's got like a
Speaker 1: favorable chance on this one. I mean, he's refiling in
Speaker 1: the second District of New York, which has been friendly
Speaker 1: to the NFL before the where the Brady case played out,
Speaker 1: And it sounds like I go into this expecting him
Speaker 1: to not get it and then not when or not
Speaker 1: get a stay, not get the stay. I don't know
Speaker 1: what happens with the course, I mean the case once
Speaker 1: it's eventually you know, heard. But I'm expecting him to
Speaker 1: not get this stay just and that's I mean, that's
Speaker 1: just my intuition and my feeling about it. I don't mean,
Speaker 1: we'll see if I'm right or wrong. But um, I
Speaker 1: think it was an upset or maybe not unforeseen but
Speaker 1: a little unexpected, that that that injunction got thrown out
Speaker 1: in New Orleans. I think that was the big thing
Speaker 1: for Zeke's team, that that they wanted to have. I mean,
Speaker 1: that clearly worked so well in his favor, and now
Speaker 1: he's kind of behind the eight ball. Well, but if
Speaker 1: if memories, I mean, if if I'm understanding this correctly,
Speaker 1: the ruling that happened last week was not so much
Speaker 1: about the merits of his case as much as it
Speaker 1: was about the timing and where it was being adjudicated. Correct. Yes, none,
Speaker 1: none of this is really about the merits of the case, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, other than I do think at this point
Speaker 1: now with the refiling, it does become more about the
Speaker 1: merits of the case, because you are presumably in the
Speaker 1: right court because you're doing it in New York in
Speaker 1: the Fifth Circuit, right, so you're in the right court.
Speaker 1: The timing is right because the appeal has already been
Speaker 1: heard by the NFL, by the arbitrator, and you've gotten
Speaker 1: a ruling, So the timing is right. So now it
Speaker 1: does become about the merits of the case. And that's
Speaker 1: why I kind of am the flip of you. I
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of reason why you can think
Speaker 1: that maybe the court will give him the stay in
Speaker 1: the fact that in all that time, if he's missing games,
Speaker 1: he can't get those games back. So there is a
Speaker 1: clear situation here where there's irreparable harm that's done before
Speaker 1: there's a ruling. I don't have a lot of faith
Speaker 1: that in the long term this is going to play
Speaker 1: out in his favor, because, like you said, this is
Speaker 1: the same situation. There have been a lot of There
Speaker 1: have been a few different situations, I should say, where
Speaker 1: players have ended up taking their things the court and
Speaker 1: rarely I don't think, if ever, they've won. Because of
Speaker 1: the way the CBA is set up for the league
Speaker 1: to have the kind of jurisdiction that they do, and
Speaker 1: so Nick, so you're telling me, even if he gets this,
Speaker 1: that only buys him two weeks. That's what That's what
Speaker 1: I was told. Fourteen days would be how long the
Speaker 1: restraining order would be temporary restraining order, and I my
Speaker 1: assumption is that one or two things would happen at
Speaker 1: that point. Either they get all these guys together to
Speaker 1: be able to hear this case, or they would follow
Speaker 1: another temporary restraining order to continue to continue until they
Speaker 1: can get everybody to all the until they can have
Speaker 1: it heard and obviously get a ruling. Right. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is like when you go down to walk down the
Speaker 1: stairs to go eat. See how that art that's up
Speaker 1: and down like that. That's what this is. Trying to
Speaker 1: piece it together. Now that's the hell Mary, I got it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's kind of what those of you guys who aren't
Speaker 1: in this building and have never been in this building.
Speaker 1: There's a neat little art display that shows all the
Speaker 1: different frames of thet No. It goes like three stories. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's huge, and it's actually pretty cool, but it shows
Speaker 1: different frames, different photo frames of the hell Mary play.
Speaker 1: But anyway, you're right, now, this is it's gonna be tough.
Speaker 1: But let me kind of throw this part out there too,
Speaker 1: that I know the fans they can't help but care
Speaker 1: about what they care about, and they care about their
Speaker 1: favorite team and their favorite players playing in the game
Speaker 1: to help him win. I understand that. And so for
Speaker 1: all the fans that say, just take it now, just
Speaker 1: take take this suspension, let's just get it over with,
Speaker 1: because it's gonna happen anyways. Let's sen we're not that
Speaker 1: good this year or two and three will probably just
Speaker 1: take it. Like there's so much more to it than that,
Speaker 1: Like he cannot quit. He cannot quit. Now, do you
Speaker 1: realize when you're on the number four overall, pick all
Speaker 1: the guaranteed moneies that that come with that. I mean,
Speaker 1: when you are suspended for this for one game, even
Speaker 1: if it's just this one game, all of his guaranteed
Speaker 1: moneys out the window. So knock on wood. If he
Speaker 1: had a really bad injury, one of those injuries that
Speaker 1: you're like, oh my god, I mean, he's done. He
Speaker 1: cannot He won't get any of that money because he
Speaker 1: and it's not the team's decision, right, it's a it's
Speaker 1: gonna be in the neighborhood about two million dollars that
Speaker 1: he will lose just from that alone, just from the
Speaker 1: just from playing or missing game checks and incentives and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Then you got to remember court costs,
Speaker 1: Like he's taking all this on himself. This is in
Speaker 1: the neighborhood of maybe a million when it's all said
Speaker 1: and done. If you know, if Cam Newton's losing sponsors
Speaker 1: for what happened, you know he's not getting any So
Speaker 1: look at all of the all of what what could
Speaker 1: be lost here and then the top of his comptation.
Speaker 1: And the NFLPA doesn't want to quit this thing either,
Speaker 1: because this is more about this isn't They're not just
Speaker 1: fighting for Zeke, they're fighting against Goodell. They're fighting against
Speaker 1: and the next you know, labor deal of Like, no,
Speaker 1: the commissioner doesn't have this much power as much as
Speaker 1: he thinks he's. So there's so many different levels here
Speaker 1: that that it's just it's not eive to say, just
Speaker 1: drop the case. Let's get it on, because because it's
Speaker 1: hurting your team and your fantasy team, it's a lot
Speaker 1: more to it than that I don't understand something, and
Speaker 1: maybe you guys can explain it. To me, But I
Speaker 1: can't understand how a suspension can come into effect whilst
Speaker 1: a case is still going on, since that's something, I mean,
Speaker 1: a suspension is something you can't take back, just like
Speaker 1: let's put you in jail while we finish the investigation.
Speaker 1: That's something you can't take back. So I don't understand
Speaker 1: the whole procedure in this whole case. Well, whether you
Speaker 1: believe it or not, the NFL is arguing the same
Speaker 1: thing that Zeke is arguing, which is there is irreparable
Speaker 1: harm by letting him play. So they're arguing while the league,
Speaker 1: I mean, while the NFLPA is trying to get this
Speaker 1: temporary restraining order under the thought that if Zeke is
Speaker 1: forced not to play while the case is still being adjudicated,
Speaker 1: then there's a reparable harm him he can't get those
Speaker 1: games back. Well, the league is saying the exact same thing, Well,
Speaker 1: there's a reparable harm to us. I'm not really sure
Speaker 1: how they I'm not sure how they're making that argument.
Speaker 1: They're probably saying something to the effect of, hey, if
Speaker 1: if if we let him play, then this sets up
Speaker 1: a bad precedent and then players will take things to court.
Speaker 1: When that's not a part of CBA. I don't know
Speaker 1: what their argument is, and that's my assumption that would
Speaker 1: be their argument, But they are making the argument there's
Speaker 1: a reparable harm being done the league if Zeke continues
Speaker 1: to play in the meantime while this thing's being judicated.
Speaker 1: So just depends on how the judges. Yeah, it just
Speaker 1: depends on how the judges rule. On On top of that,
Speaker 1: I think you're you're going a level deeper than you
Speaker 1: need to, like, for the point of answering your question,
Speaker 1: the investigations over. As far as the NFL's concerned, they
Speaker 1: investigated it, they made a decision. They think he violated
Speaker 1: their policy, so they suspended him. He is taking outside
Speaker 1: means and going above and beyond to try to fight that.
Speaker 1: But as far as the NFL's concerned, they've already made
Speaker 1: that decision, and I get that. I'm just even then,
Speaker 1: you know, they made their decision, but the whole thing
Speaker 1: is still going on. So if you're taking that to
Speaker 1: another court, it's like, Okay, let's just keep it in
Speaker 1: hold on hold and until we figure out. But exactly
Speaker 1: what to do, And if I'm the NFL, and again
Speaker 1: I'm not saying what they did was right or whatever.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, we made our ruling and we want you.
Speaker 1: You're going to serve that suspension while this gets sorted out,
Speaker 1: and whether or not whatever comes of this, we have
Speaker 1: decided that you're suspended, right, And that's the league's perspective.
Speaker 1: I think Amber saying, I guess the way I took
Speaker 1: it was the courts are now the ones that are
Speaker 1: left to decide should this be on hold until we
Speaker 1: finished making a ruling, or should it not be? And
Speaker 1: that's I guess what they're gonna argue today and say,
Speaker 1: We're gonna figure out see how they fall on this.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting either way. Let's talk about the
Speaker 1: contingencies here for the Cowboys. Let's assume for a second
Speaker 1: that Zeke does not get to stay and he is
Speaker 1: forced to miss game, at least miss this weekend's game.
Speaker 1: What are the Cowboys going to do at the running
Speaker 1: back position. We've seen Alfred Morris be the guy that's
Speaker 1: been the number two. We've seen Darren McFadden in act.
Speaker 1: If there's a thought that maybe Darren mcatt McFadden, they're
Speaker 1: doing that because they want to keep him fresh, to
Speaker 1: make him now jump into that starting spot. If this
Speaker 1: were to happen, what do you guys believe this thing's
Speaker 1: gonna fall. As far as playing time for the running backs, Well,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, it's gonna be a little bit more
Speaker 1: of a split, you know, split carries than what we've seen.
Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen ninety five percent to Zekee and
Speaker 1: you know, maybe five percent to Morris. I don't think
Speaker 1: it'll be like that. It'll probably be in the sixty
Speaker 1: forty range. I don't flavoring who. If had to guess,
Speaker 1: I would say Morris, I guess because they like him more.
Speaker 1: But I don't. I don't know. I mean I would
Speaker 1: imagine that whatever it is, I mean they're gonna play,
Speaker 1: I would probably go with Morris because I think McFadden
Speaker 1: would be your better third down back if you want
Speaker 1: to go that route. But yeah, I have a hard
Speaker 1: time believing they're gonna vault a guy into the lion's
Speaker 1: share of the carries after sitting on the bench for
Speaker 1: a month and a half, although I will say practicing though, right,
Speaker 1: No sure, But I mean, you know, just Alfred Morris
Speaker 1: has been in the swing of the season, and he's
Speaker 1: been getting carries during the games I had a big run,
Speaker 1: I would have the longest run of the year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would imagine he if Yeah, I think Nick's right.
Speaker 1: Something you know, committee sixty sixty thirty five or five
Speaker 1: percent left over for Rod Smith probably something you guys
Speaker 1: are saying that if by chance, somebody that you know
Speaker 1: owns Zeke Elliott in their fantasy league, that Morris might
Speaker 1: be the guy you'd want to pick up to replace him. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say I picked him up on Friday,
Speaker 1: but I was scared, like really, yeah I did? What?
Speaker 1: Like who? What kind of bums? Or I have a
Speaker 1: horrible running back? No, but what kind of bums are
Speaker 1: in your league that nobody thought to pick him up?
Speaker 1: Like my all, but Darren mcfatten picked up in every
Speaker 1: other league. Been texting me since September like, which of
Speaker 1: these guys should I have him? Nobody knew that's the problem.
Speaker 1: I've had Morris on my bench since week one, for
Speaker 1: whatever that's worth. But all right, I'm just saying so
Speaker 1: for you. For you, when Darren mcfatten was sitting on
Speaker 1: the bench when he was inactive, to you, that signaled
Speaker 1: he Morris is the guy in the event that has
Speaker 1: to sit. I think you know. And yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to go on a fantasy show later this week
Speaker 1: where they're gonna ask me this question. I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: there isn't a good answer. I'm sorry, there, it's not
Speaker 1: There's no way any of these guys are gonna get
Speaker 1: ninety five percent of the carries. I don't believe that.
Speaker 1: And if Jason Garrett came up to me today and
Speaker 1: said our decision to sit Darren McFadden for the last
Speaker 1: six weeks has nothing to do with Zeke's situation, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't believe him. No, he could tell me that, and
Speaker 1: I just say, you're full of crap. I don't believe.
Speaker 1: But one of those guys is gonna have to be
Speaker 1: an active though right, they weren't gonna have both but
Speaker 1: Alfred Morris. But the conscientious decision to go with one
Speaker 1: repeatedly week after week after favoring the other one all
Speaker 1: through training camp. I just I don't buy it. And again,
Speaker 1: you can tell me I'm wrong, and I'll just stick
Speaker 1: to my opinion. What do you make again? You're saying
Speaker 1: that that they sat McFadden. I think the the the
Speaker 1: the what the continuous decision to sit him every week
Speaker 1: and just constantly go with Morris. So you thought they
Speaker 1: should have rotated between who was I think it was
Speaker 1: close enough that the fact that it was always McFadden
Speaker 1: all six weeks tells me that they're like, we'd rather
Speaker 1: just have this guy definitely be ready if we unless,
Speaker 1: of course, they were trying to tell him he wasn't
Speaker 1: as good as Morris, like if if Morris was better
Speaker 1: to them in the preseason and in training camp, and
Speaker 1: they wanted to make sure McFadden knew that nothing nothing.
Speaker 1: The way to do that is to sit him down.
Speaker 1: Nothing they did during preseason or training camp insinuated that
Speaker 1: they thought Morris was better. McFadden got them McFadden started.
Speaker 1: If Fadden started, McFadden got more work right often than
Speaker 1: not at all. And if and if they felt and
Speaker 1: if they felt like in that situation he wasn't taking
Speaker 1: advantage of it and he wasn't showing them enough, then
Speaker 1: Fadden was on their rest cycle. Like they were like,
Speaker 1: we're gonna give him this day off because he's a veteran.
Speaker 1: He needs it, understood, But if all that time in
Speaker 1: preseason you're offering they didn't feel like he was he
Speaker 1: was playing better than Morris. You're offering a strong counter argument,
Speaker 1: and Jason Garrett could offer the same thing, and I
Speaker 1: would say, that's cool. I don't believe you, straight up,
Speaker 1: no matter what you say, I don't believe. I don't believe.
Speaker 1: And that's okay. Yeah, I mean, if I can be wrong,
Speaker 1: if I want to be wrong, I just it just
Speaker 1: makes too much sense with what's facing them right now,
Speaker 1: where they're like, well, it's really good that we decided
Speaker 1: to keep our most injury prone running back on the
Speaker 1: shelf because now we got them. Yeah. I just and
Speaker 1: and if they didn't do it on purpose, then it's
Speaker 1: a very good unintended consequence. Put it that way. I
Speaker 1: don't know if they ever really intended that Zeke are
Speaker 1: really thought that Zeke was going to be out. I mean,
Speaker 1: who knows. But but when you have this surplus of
Speaker 1: running backs, it makes a hell of a lot of
Speaker 1: sense to try to protect them as much as you
Speaker 1: can when you don't know how much you can count
Speaker 1: on your starter. Yep. So but if that's the mentality,
Speaker 1: I mean, this is not even close to being the same.
Speaker 1: But why not make Cooper Rush active instead? Because that's
Speaker 1: the same kind of mentality because you're only ever one
Speaker 1: play away from needing your backup quarterback and whatever. For
Speaker 1: whatever reason, they trust Kellen Moore to do that more
Speaker 1: than they trust Cooper Rush. But if Zeke had gotten
Speaker 1: hurt in any of these games, you've still got two
Speaker 1: capable guys behind him, So I don't think that's the
Speaker 1: same thing. So it sounds like they feel pretty good
Speaker 1: with the options they have right now. According to Stephen Jones,
Speaker 1: I mean that, Yeah, it's it's not as exciting as
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott or if you had drafted a guy. But
Speaker 1: you know, it hasn't made sense why they've had all
Speaker 1: these running backs for the last six months, but now
Speaker 1: it does. Yeah, we're gonna take our break when we
Speaker 1: come back. I actually want you guys to answer that
Speaker 1: question for me. Looking at what the Cowboys have over
Speaker 1: the next six games, how confident are you the Cowboys
Speaker 1: can still make this offense move with these backup running backs.
Speaker 1: If Zeke's going to be out for all of those games,
Speaker 1: well that when we come right back. This dalas Cowboys
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Speaker 1: the SWBC board get studios at the Star and we're
Speaker 1: talking about Ezekiel Elliott and talking about his legal issues,
Speaker 1: talking about how that's going to affect the Cowboys. And
Speaker 1: right before break, I told you guys, I wanted to
Speaker 1: get your opinions on what you think that will happen
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys over these next six games. You've a
Speaker 1: game at San Francisco this weekend. San Francisco is oh
Speaker 1: and six. Then you go at Washington, who's three and two.
Speaker 1: Then you come home to play the Kansas City Chiefs
Speaker 1: who are five and one, Then at Atlanta, who's three
Speaker 1: and two record. I don't know if you really think
Speaker 1: it reflects how good a team they are. Maybe it does.
Speaker 1: And then you play Philadelphia who is now five and one,
Speaker 1: sitting atop of the division. And then round out the
Speaker 1: six games against the Chargers on Thanksgiving Day, who are
Speaker 1: two and four. What do you think the likelihood is
Speaker 1: that this offense can still run as efficiently as it
Speaker 1: needs to run, because I think we all agree in
Speaker 1: order for this team to be successful, the offense has
Speaker 1: to be efficient, has to be good. How confident are
Speaker 1: you that they can do that over those six games
Speaker 1: with these opponents. If ezecuel Eli is out, well, I
Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna go like they wouldn't go six
Speaker 1: and oh, but I mean I think they can still win,
Speaker 1: you know, three or four of these games. I mean,
Speaker 1: but you look around the league, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: people that play with a lot less at running back
Speaker 1: and especially from an offensive line running back standpoints, so
Speaker 1: they can they still have as much fire firefower as
Speaker 1: other teams To mean that, they're gonna need to be
Speaker 1: you know, better on defense to be able to withstand that.
Speaker 1: I mean, they've been scoring thirty points a game at
Speaker 1: home and they haven't been able to win, and that's
Speaker 1: because you know, the defense hasn't really done anything to
Speaker 1: really help them that much. So I think they can
Speaker 1: still do some things, but it's gonna it's gonna take
Speaker 1: more of a team effort. You can't just lean on,
Speaker 1: you know, Zeke Amber, I think it will open up
Speaker 1: I mean more options, just maybe other defenses trying not
Speaker 1: to focus so much on stopping Zeke. Maybe that gives
Speaker 1: them other options there. But honestly, I don't think this
Speaker 1: changes anything by much in my honest I mean, again,
Speaker 1: not having zek yeah, that's gonna affect them, but we
Speaker 1: have seen that he hasn't been the same guy that
Speaker 1: we thought he would be like the year before. So
Speaker 1: the offense just needs to kind of keep pushing, and
Speaker 1: it's I'm concerned about the defense more than anything. Dave
Speaker 1: I said this yesterday on the specialty show we did,
Speaker 1: which is I'm not going to try to convince anybody
Speaker 1: that it's not a big deal, and there's some validity
Speaker 1: to that, Amber, just that you know, the running game
Speaker 1: hasn't been what you thought it would be anyway, but
Speaker 1: you're still losing an incredibly talented player and one of
Speaker 1: the best running backs in the league. So I don't
Speaker 1: think that's going to be great, obviously, but I'm not
Speaker 1: just going to assume it's going to be a train
Speaker 1: wreck until I see that, because you know, you spent
Speaker 1: these resources on quality veteran running backs for a reason.
Speaker 1: We've seen them. Both have their moments. I mean, Darren
Speaker 1: McFadden ran for eleven hundred yards in his one year
Speaker 1: as the starter. Alfred Morris has had very brief moments.
Speaker 1: You know, the seventy one yard run comes to mind.
Speaker 1: He's had a couple other decent outings. They all looked
Speaker 1: good in the preseason. I certainly think you lose an
Speaker 1: element of explosiveness, but I mean I expect that they'll
Speaker 1: still be able to run the ball effectively. The big
Speaker 1: thing for me is, you know who's going to be
Speaker 1: that guy that turns the zero or one yard game
Speaker 1: into two or three, which is you know, we haven't
Speaker 1: seen that from McFadden and Morris as well as we
Speaker 1: saw it from Zeke maybe Rod Smith as a guy
Speaker 1: who can do that. I mean, good lord, he's like
Speaker 1: sixty three two forty, So there. I mean, and you
Speaker 1: think about how much they struggled in short yardage in
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. I think that's that's what really scares me
Speaker 1: more than you know, what they're running for like one
Speaker 1: twenty nine a game right now. I think I would
Speaker 1: imagine that they can still hover at or above one
Speaker 1: hundred yards a game. I think they're I think that's reasonable,
Speaker 1: but you're you're missing an element of explosiveness, and you
Speaker 1: need to find a guy who can get you that
Speaker 1: fourth down like Zeke did against the Packers. That's definitely
Speaker 1: something that worries me. But but I think in the
Speaker 1: long run, I don't think I'm not ready to call
Speaker 1: this a train wreck. Let me ask you this question.
Speaker 1: I look at this offense, and to me, I know
Speaker 1: a lot of people have been focusing a lot on
Speaker 1: what the running game has not been. I think Zeke's
Speaker 1: run really hard, and I think the offensive line at
Speaker 1: times has not been able to give him any holes.
Speaker 1: But you're right, he takes that one yard game, he
Speaker 1: turns it into three yards, and people don't see that
Speaker 1: as a great run, but it's a great run. I
Speaker 1: think one of the bigger differences between last year and
Speaker 1: this year is I don't think the receivers have been
Speaker 1: as consistently good as they were last year. And I
Speaker 1: think if Zekiel Ellid is out of the game for
Speaker 1: six weeks, I think it now becomes important for this
Speaker 1: quarterback and for these wide receivers to be more consistent.
Speaker 1: I think you've had in big moments, you've had guys
Speaker 1: dropping balls. They just haven't seemed to have that same
Speaker 1: kind of Last year, it seemed like at moments they
Speaker 1: were actually making plays when they were needed, the receivers
Speaker 1: are actually making plays, and this year it seems like
Speaker 1: they're they're not as frequently making those same kinds of plays.
Speaker 1: Do you guys agree with that that that's a big
Speaker 1: difference that this year and that's something to be something
Speaker 1: that's that they're going to have to change if they're
Speaker 1: going to be successful while Zeke's out, Yeah, I do
Speaker 1: think that the receivers are kind of the biggest issue
Speaker 1: that this offense has because it allows defenses to say,
Speaker 1: we're just gonna try to load up and make sure
Speaker 1: that this that we don't get blown off the ball
Speaker 1: because we'll take our chances with the receivers and that
Speaker 1: they don't beat them that much. They don't get they
Speaker 1: don't get burned by that. So that's gonna be an issue.
Speaker 1: But I do agree with what Amber said about I
Speaker 1: think defenses are gonna now kind of try to play
Speaker 1: it differently. Um, And I think we already saw that
Speaker 1: this year. We already saw that they didn't play at
Speaker 1: the same when forty six was back there. There's no
Speaker 1: way Zeke's ripping off a seventy yard run like that.
Speaker 1: They don't have the same middle of the defense wouldn't
Speaker 1: have been there. So you're gonna see a little bit
Speaker 1: more of that. Um. But you know, I think I
Speaker 1: think it'll open things up for the Cowboys. But but
Speaker 1: like you said, short yardage is gonna be tough. I mean,
Speaker 1: we saw McFadden go for eleven hundred yards two years ago,
Speaker 1: but they were one of the worst teams in the league.
Speaker 1: The goal line short yards, third and one. They couldn't
Speaker 1: push and run, So I think that's that's a big
Speaker 1: issue there. I'm with Dave on that. I kind of
Speaker 1: want to see Rod Smith in that role. Honestly, He's
Speaker 1: got a big body, he's strong. You would think he
Speaker 1: could push for yard right. I would like to see
Speaker 1: Rod Smith get an opportunity to really just play some
Speaker 1: running back. I mean, you know, short yardage fine, whatever,
Speaker 1: And that's tough because you're talking about you know, guys
Speaker 1: with Pro Bowl nods and a thousand yard seasons. I
Speaker 1: get that. But you know, he showed you a lot
Speaker 1: in in preseason training camp all the way back to
Speaker 1: OTA's and uh, you know. I hope they don't forget
Speaker 1: about that, because you're never gonna be able to impress
Speaker 1: anybody if you don't get the opportunity to do so.
Speaker 1: Just so, I mean, that's something I've got my eye on.
Speaker 1: The Other thing I'll throw out there on the short yardage,
Speaker 1: I'd like to see a lot more quarterback sneaks. I
Speaker 1: think when you have short yardage and you have a
Speaker 1: quarterback as strong as him. I know their teams like
Speaker 1: New England regularly, if they got short yardage, they just
Speaker 1: plow right in there behind the center or behind the guard,
Speaker 1: and they get in there for the first down. And
Speaker 1: their quarterback isn't nearly as fleet footed as as as Prescott.
Speaker 1: Forget fleet footed, he's a linebacker. He's just a true stock.
Speaker 1: Just let him push forward regardless of Zeke. If it's
Speaker 1: fourth and one or less, I sneak the freak in all, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't that should be a guaranteed yard every time,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, pushed behind Frederick and let him just
Speaker 1: push it and get him behind him. But I do
Speaker 1: agree with that sentiment that obviously, I mean, if Zeke's
Speaker 1: not there, I mean, the whole passing game Dak receivers,
Speaker 1: all of them gotta be better, have to be. All right,
Speaker 1: let's talk a little bit about this NFC East. As
Speaker 1: I said for in the first segment, everybody in the
Speaker 1: NFC East played this last weekend. Every team one, now
Speaker 1: that Philly, the Philadelphia Eagles to the top of the
Speaker 1: division at five and one after beating the Carolina Panthers,
Speaker 1: who were also five and one, I mean four and
Speaker 1: one at the time. Washington's now three and two, Dallas
Speaker 1: in third place at two and three, and then Giants
Speaker 1: pulling up the rear at one and five. They were
Speaker 1: only five going into this weekend. But the Giants went
Speaker 1: into Denver and surprise a lot of people, myself included,
Speaker 1: I didn't expect to see that kind of game from them.
Speaker 1: Do you think that was just an aberration? Obviously there
Speaker 1: were some things that they did that were different, Like
Speaker 1: they had a new guy plant calling plays. They had
Speaker 1: a bunch of new guys out there at wide at
Speaker 1: the wide receiver position that the teams didn't know. Do
Speaker 1: you think that those kinds of differences were the reason
Speaker 1: why they were able to win because Denver, you know,
Speaker 1: they weren't hadn't seen it on film they they had,
Speaker 1: we weren't able to prepare for it in the same way,
Speaker 1: and that do you think that's something that continue or
Speaker 1: do you think it was just an aberration. That'll be
Speaker 1: one week and the Giants will go back to being
Speaker 1: a bad team. You know, they didn't even they didn't
Speaker 1: score a whole lot of points. I mean, they don't
Speaker 1: even score as many points as the Cowboys did up there.
Speaker 1: So they won with the defense. They scored with the defense.
Speaker 1: I mean, I believe the Giants scored sixteen points on offense.
Speaker 1: So the defense was the reason there. The Cowboys don't
Speaker 1: have that kind of defense, and a lot of teams don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Giants have it when they when they're playing,
Speaker 1: they're getting after the quarterback and they're there there there
Speaker 1: secondary guys are playing really well and going after the ball.
Speaker 1: They're really tough to beat. And we saw that there
Speaker 1: and so it allowed the Giants to kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: play with the lead and and give Eli credit as
Speaker 1: much as people don't want to do that, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think right off the top of the show,
Speaker 1: Chris Collinsworth said they still have Eli Manning, a two
Speaker 1: time Super Bowl winning quarterback. And even though these receivers
Speaker 1: you've never heard of unless they were in the Cowboys
Speaker 1: camp last year, Ed Egan one had heard of these guys,
Speaker 1: so he Ed Egan from New Orleans, Louisiana, for whatever
Speaker 1: that's worth. Right, Sorry, what do you go to college?
Speaker 1: Northwestern State mcidish Louisiana. It's not Midwestern State, it's Northwestern State. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll get it confused. Good job for the Giants. They've
Speaker 1: won less win than the Cowboys, so it's not like
Speaker 1: you know they're way back there too. I didn't even
Speaker 1: think about that. You're right, just one who one and
Speaker 1: a half. If you can consider that they've already beat him,
Speaker 1: that sets me up for something. Two things that really
Speaker 1: annoyed me this weekend. One, I mean that that you're
Speaker 1: right there, they have one fewer win than the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: but like everybody's everybody seemed like was freaking out. And
Speaker 1: it's not good when the whole division wins while you're
Speaker 1: not playing. I know that, but everybody's like it doesn't
Speaker 1: feel good. Every but it doesn't feel good, but does
Speaker 1: it matter mathematically? Everybody's like they're all they've got one
Speaker 1: more game ahead of it. Doesn't. It doesn't work that way.
Speaker 1: They just they took a week off. Everybody else hasn't
Speaker 1: taken their week off yet. That's all that means. The
Speaker 1: Redskins have only played what they're three and two now exist,
Speaker 1: so they took their by. The Eagles haven't taken their by.
Speaker 1: They're not two games up on you more so, they
Speaker 1: just haven't taken their boy. But the part that the
Speaker 1: part that I think for a fan that probably bummed
Speaker 1: you out this last weekend was at least two of
Speaker 1: those games, you felt like there was a legitimate chance
Speaker 1: that the teams in the division were gonna take a loss. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you thought that Philly going to play Carolina at Carolina
Speaker 1: who was just had the exact same record. They very nice.
Speaker 1: There was a good yeah, it was a good chance
Speaker 1: they take a loss there. You were absolutely certain. I
Speaker 1: don't know anybody that wasn't certain that the Giants were
Speaker 1: gonna go to Denver and take a loss there and
Speaker 1: they get a win. So that's the part that was
Speaker 1: probably more more just surprising for for all these Giants.
Speaker 1: Win is a good thing for the Cowboys, regardless of
Speaker 1: what people think. It is a good thing. They're gonna
Speaker 1: play the Eagles again. They're gonna play the Redskins, They're
Speaker 1: gonna play some teams. They're gonna be competitive, they're gonna
Speaker 1: stay in this thing. And that game up in the
Speaker 1: Meadowlands in December is not going to be easy and
Speaker 1: never never was going to be right. And another beautiful
Speaker 1: segue for me to rant, thank you, because I'm sick
Speaker 1: of people acting like this is college football. Like remember
Speaker 1: Dan Hawkins at Colorado ranting like it's the Big twelve.
Speaker 1: It's the NFL. This is professional football. And no, I
Speaker 1: did not expect the Giants to go to Denver and
Speaker 1: beat the Broncos. But everybody's like, how did we lose
Speaker 1: to this awful Denver team? The Giants are beating that
Speaker 1: the Giants lost to the Bucks by three, the Chargers
Speaker 1: by two, the Eagles by three on a last second
Speaker 1: sixty one yard field goal. Like it's not like they've
Speaker 1: just been getting their doors blown off. Yeah, but the
Speaker 1: only team that has blown the doors off the Giants
Speaker 1: is the Cowboys. That's the only one. It is professional football.
Speaker 1: You spend a week telling a team that they suck
Speaker 1: and they usually respond that way. And also, not only
Speaker 1: is everybody incredibly good, just on an individual level. In
Speaker 1: the NFL, every team also has a ridiculously glaring weakness
Speaker 1: because the salary cap designs the league that way, so
Speaker 1: you're one bad game away from looking like that. Trevor
Speaker 1: Simeon looked amazing against the Cowboys. He looked like crap
Speaker 1: against the Giants. The Broncos liked their kicker enough to
Speaker 1: sign to an extension the week they that we went
Speaker 1: up there. He had even horrible. He's been awful, And
Speaker 1: that's just the nature of the NFL. Like if it's
Speaker 1: college football, where you clearly have your has and your
Speaker 1: have nots. I get it. I understand that hierarchy, but
Speaker 1: the fact that people are still surprised by these things
Speaker 1: in the NFL just baffles me. Yeah, I think I
Speaker 1: agree with what you're saying, and you're right. Anytime you
Speaker 1: think you know something for certain in the NFL, it's
Speaker 1: probably going to go the the way. I get all that,
Speaker 1: but it was just this was such a huge thing
Speaker 1: because it wasn't just the Giants were Owen five. It
Speaker 1: was the Giants were Owen five, and they lost their
Speaker 1: top player, then they lost their second wide receiver, then
Speaker 1: they lost their fourth wide receiver and kick returner and
Speaker 1: special teams player, and then their third wide receiver is
Speaker 1: out for this game and maybe a couple more games,
Speaker 1: and the offensive line has already been bad, but now
Speaker 1: it's going to face one of the most dominant pass
Speaker 1: rushing defenses in the league. All those things set up
Speaker 1: to say there's no way the Giants go to Denver
Speaker 1: and get a win, and yet it happened, right, I
Speaker 1: guess so, Yes, it was a reason for people to
Speaker 1: be surprised by that. I'm not saying it's not shocking,
Speaker 1: like I said, I'm not. I wasn't out here last
Speaker 1: week telling you that the Giants were gonna beat the Bronchos.
Speaker 1: But for people to just get all up in arms
Speaker 1: like it reflects like it's this horrible thing that this
Speaker 1: Broncos team is actually awful and the Cowboys couldn't beat
Speaker 1: them and the Giants. That like, crazy stuff happens in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Because you know what, the guy, the guy
Speaker 1: that they signed to replace Odell Beckham, I don't even
Speaker 1: know who he is. He's still good enough to be
Speaker 1: on an NFL roster. That still means something. He's not
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham. I mean, you know, does am I crazy? Like?
Speaker 1: Am I crazy for thinking that? People are crazy for
Speaker 1: thinking that's crazy? That's I went like three deep right there.
Speaker 1: I just don't understand why with the Giants, why does
Speaker 1: that even matter to see the Cowboys? So like what
Speaker 1: the Giant like, what does that mean that that they
Speaker 1: won the game? I mean because it puts them one
Speaker 1: game closer to catching the Cowboys, especially if the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: you know, don't handle their business. Well, Nick, you know
Speaker 1: why it matters. It matters because fans just don't want
Speaker 1: to see teams in the division win. That's why it
Speaker 1: matters matters to the Cowboys. And I mean, at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, it's just they don't want to
Speaker 1: see the Giants ever win. They don't want to see
Speaker 1: the Eagles ever win unless they're playing each other. And
Speaker 1: you want the team with the worst record to win, right,
Speaker 1: And that's that's the only thing that matters. The point
Speaker 1: is that they the Giants are not gonna give up.
Speaker 1: And so they're gonna play and they're gonna play some
Speaker 1: teams here, and they're gonna beat some teams and it's
Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna start even and out because the Eagles
Speaker 1: are the Eagles that franchisees. That's if that franchise is
Speaker 1: still sitting up there, they're still gonna They're gonna come
Speaker 1: down to Earth and they're gonna be the Eagles like
Speaker 1: they've always been. I don't know if I despise that rationale.
Speaker 1: I don't care. I mean, I don't care. I mean
Speaker 1: when if they ever won, I mean that they're hot
Speaker 1: right now, they're playing well, they're defense. Did the Cubs
Speaker 1: ever win? Okay, for not for one hundred years and
Speaker 1: then they did. I mean that's not a good that.
Speaker 1: That's not a good rationale, Like what past results are
Speaker 1: not an indicator of future results. And they're not even
Speaker 1: same guys like I mean, they're led by quarterback now,
Speaker 1: Like they haven't had a good quarterback since McNab left.
Speaker 1: So they got a good quarterback, they really do. He's
Speaker 1: playing well. I just think that that in this league.
Speaker 1: I mean, you just said it yourself that the Giants
Speaker 1: like barely, I mean lost to the Eagles. They needed
Speaker 1: a sixty one yard field goal to win. So it's
Speaker 1: not like the Eagles are just running over everybody. Oh no,
Speaker 1: and they they won that game the other day from
Speaker 1: two tipped in interceptions inside the twenty yard line and
Speaker 1: they were able to score from there. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: not like they weren't up and down the field and
Speaker 1: mall the But you know, I think that's they are
Speaker 1: playing well. I think that's the point there is they're
Speaker 1: just as good as you say their offense is. Their
Speaker 1: defense is playing really really well. So but when you
Speaker 1: play with fire like that, you are gonna get burned,
Speaker 1: and they will. They'll start losing. I guarantee you they
Speaker 1: will lose two in a row at some point, and
Speaker 1: maybe even three in a row this year. They will.
Speaker 1: They're just the way it's worked that you they haven't
Speaker 1: been playing that impressively to just keep running the table.
Speaker 1: It doesn't work like that. You'll they'll come back and
Speaker 1: they'll lose. I'm not saying they won't win the division
Speaker 1: or make the playoffs. I'm just saying that this isn't
Speaker 1: like fourteen and two, thirteen and three football team. They're
Speaker 1: gonna probably go ten and six. I think the same
Speaker 1: thing could have been said about the Cowboys at this
Speaker 1: point last year. People were like, at some point they're
Speaker 1: gonna be the Cowboys. They're gonna lose two, and they
Speaker 1: were in the pointoffs in the playoffs though, but I
Speaker 1: think during the regular season they were a thirteen and
Speaker 1: three team. And I'm saying this Eagles team is showing
Speaker 1: sign that they're a good team. Their defense is good,
Speaker 1: their offense is good. They just have a good team.
Speaker 1: And so I won't take anything away from it. I'm
Speaker 1: not taking it away from I'm just saying that. And
Speaker 1: I don't believe I think history does repeat itself, and
Speaker 1: I think that there's there's They're not set up to
Speaker 1: be a thirteen and three football team. They're not that
Speaker 1: they'll They'll probably go ten and six to eleven and five.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't agree with Nick's rationale, as I
Speaker 1: already said, but at the end of the day, I
Speaker 1: agree with what he's saying because I was talking about
Speaker 1: this on Twitter the other night. If you look around
Speaker 1: the NFC in light of Aaron Rodgers injury, there isn't
Speaker 1: a team out there that I'm just like, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: like I agree with that they're gonna have the one
Speaker 1: seed locked up by Christmas, you know, Like, I don't
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be that way. I would be surprised
Speaker 1: if there's a thirteen or fourteen win team in the
Speaker 1: NFC this year, just based on what we've seen through
Speaker 1: the first season, there's no team that's dominant right now.
Speaker 1: That's my point. Yeah, there's no team that's done. And
Speaker 1: if there is a thirteen wins whoever it is, if
Speaker 1: they get hot and like the Cowboys did and then
Speaker 1: last year they just kind of keep winning, keep winning
Speaker 1: these close games. Let's say it is Philadelphia or somebody.
Speaker 1: Nobody in the in the playoffs is going to be
Speaker 1: afraid of them going to Philly and winning or going
Speaker 1: anywhere whoever the top team is, No one's No one's
Speaker 1: afraid of anybody because they don't have a guy like
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, right right, Yeah. I mean that's that's why
Speaker 1: you get afraid of playing a team, is because there's
Speaker 1: that one player that you're like, I just don't have
Speaker 1: an answer for this guy, no doubt. And with Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers out, I don't know if there's a team in
Speaker 1: the NFC where you got that one player you like,
Speaker 1: I don't have an answer for her. It's it's a
Speaker 1: it's a bummer. Yeah you're gonna say that, but I
Speaker 1: thought you were. Did you say the Falcons. I mean
Speaker 1: maybe the Falcons, but do you feel like that about
Speaker 1: about their guy Ryan Well, I mean, I'm just saying
Speaker 1: if you had to go up and play them, like
Speaker 1: I'm talking about in the playoffs, you have to go
Speaker 1: up there and play them, that that's that would be
Speaker 1: that would be a challenge. That's probably the scariest thing
Speaker 1: in the NFC right now, is what you say, yeah,
Speaker 1: just because they'll they'll get back on track and they'll
Speaker 1: get going. I mean, they're getting beat by AFC teams
Speaker 1: at home right now. So, by no means am I
Speaker 1: trying to close the book on the Cowboys season. Unlike
Speaker 1: Brian Roddis, who I argued with and said, he said
Speaker 1: it's over, that we might as well start the draft everything.
Speaker 1: If you'd been on this show with Brian and Nate yesterday,
Speaker 1: you would have thought the Cowboys were two and ten,
Speaker 1: like it was unbelievable. Those two guys take it personal
Speaker 1: those but you can see that by no means in
Speaker 1: my closing the book on their season. But when you
Speaker 1: think about that, it is disappointing that they haven't been
Speaker 1: better to this point. And I'm I love Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: I love Watchington play. I don't want him to be hurt,
Speaker 1: but this is a huge opportunity for somebody to take
Speaker 1: advantage of if he's done for the year, and right
Speaker 1: now the Cowboys don't look like they're in a great
Speaker 1: position to do that so hopefully. But I thought you
Speaker 1: just said that you don't think it's a huge it's
Speaker 1: not necessarily you're not ready, right This team on a
Speaker 1: running back, right, No, but they have not looked like
Speaker 1: a team so far that it is capable because of
Speaker 1: other things, not just a running back. Everything. Zeke's not
Speaker 1: playing like Zeke. The offensive line hadn't been good, the
Speaker 1: defense is terrible. Like this doesn't look like a playoff
Speaker 1: team right now. I'm not saying they still can be.
Speaker 1: You get better as the season goes along, but you
Speaker 1: can't sit here at two and three after five games
Speaker 1: and say that this team looks like they're capable of contending.
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Speaker 1: You're right about that, Amber, You're very right. All right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get into the phone calls. Let's get a
Speaker 1: phone call. We got a call from Reggie in Germany. Reggie,
Speaker 1: what up? Hey, Reggie checking in from Germany again? What's up? Guys?
Speaker 1: All right? Amber? Oh god, Okay, listen, I'm gonna throw
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of stuff at you guys real quick. Okay. Um,
Speaker 1: First of all, I think this is the second half
Speaker 1: of this season is gonna it's really shaping to be
Speaker 1: really exciting. You know, you got the Redskins the game
Speaker 1: and a half out over the Eagles. If they played
Speaker 1: Eagles this weekend, they win that game, there only a
Speaker 1: half a game out. If we played real serious ball
Speaker 1: the second half of the season, we're in it. I
Speaker 1: agree with Nick. You know, we we could, we could
Speaker 1: still do this. Um, and the Giants is gonna play
Speaker 1: some ball. They're going to close the gap with some
Speaker 1: things here and as I see the Eagle schedule. They
Speaker 1: got the Broncos. Still, they got the Seahawks, they got
Speaker 1: the Grams, they got the Raiders. Those are some some
Speaker 1: tough ball games. And so we can still do this
Speaker 1: if we if we play some ball. UM, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe if we think about Navarro Bowman coming in, I
Speaker 1: don't know if you know he had thought about that,
Speaker 1: UM picking him up, maybe there'll be some help at
Speaker 1: the linebacker spot. UM. My real belief is that we
Speaker 1: need to get Lyo Collins back at guard at some
Speaker 1: point in time. Maybe not this season. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's gonna happen this season, but
Speaker 1: maybe next year. He's a beast of guard. You know,
Speaker 1: he's he's doing okay at a tackle because he's just
Speaker 1: a quality player. But I think we need a guard. UM.
Speaker 1: And those two thoughts that I have right now, I
Speaker 1: just to throw all that out you how did you guys?
Speaker 1: God blessed? And one last thing, you know, I know
Speaker 1: it's off topic, but I'm really worried about what's going
Speaker 1: on in the locker room in the context of what
Speaker 1: Jerry kind of threw out there and throw grenade in
Speaker 1: the locker room with his comments. I don't know what
Speaker 1: we're doing there. I don't know if you guys have
Speaker 1: any comments to say about that, if you even want
Speaker 1: to touch that, But that's my comment. Okay, I'm out,
Speaker 1: all right, Thanks for the call. There were a couple
Speaker 1: of things he said there that I don't think have
Speaker 1: a likelihood of happening. Obviously, the Navarro Bowman thing is
Speaker 1: not going to happen. He is assigned to the Oakland Raiders,
Speaker 1: which makes a whole lot of sense. To be honest
Speaker 1: with you, I kind of think this is one of
Speaker 1: those situations where you kind of accept and offer from
Speaker 1: another team to come visit so that you can go
Speaker 1: to the Raiders and say, hey, if we leave it
Speaker 1: without a deal, we're heading somewhere else and they may
Speaker 1: give us a deal, and that just kind of gives
Speaker 1: them more impetus to get a deal done before you
Speaker 1: leave the building. It makes sense for him, he say,
Speaker 1: he keeps his family in the same area, and you
Speaker 1: know we're running right. I don't think he was going
Speaker 1: to sign with the Cowboys. I don't either. I think
Speaker 1: that was again, I think it was it was an
Speaker 1: option for him to be able to make the Raiders
Speaker 1: want to do a deal quicker right, right. But that
Speaker 1: being said, also Lyle Collins thing, I mean, at this point,
Speaker 1: that's water unto the bridge. That's not gonna change. I
Speaker 1: don't even think it's going to change in the future.
Speaker 1: I think they are they are committed to the fact
Speaker 1: that he is going to be the right tackle. You
Speaker 1: guys agree with that. When was he a beast at
Speaker 1: guard because he pulled and not the safety for the
Speaker 1: for the Seahawks or a linebacker. I mean he can
Speaker 1: still do that at tackle. I mean when was he
Speaker 1: really beastly at guard? Because they were one of the
Speaker 1: worst teams in the league in short yardage situations, they
Speaker 1: were considerably better when Leary got there. Of course, Zeke
Speaker 1: got there too, so that he hasn't blocked it guarded
Speaker 1: behind with Zeke. I understand that, But I just don't
Speaker 1: remember him being a beast at guard. I think he
Speaker 1: his body type and his quick feet, I think he
Speaker 1: is a better tackle. He'll get better there. You remember
Speaker 1: Doug Free played ten years. He didn't play for the
Speaker 1: first three years of his career. You have to it
Speaker 1: takes some time. He's learning on the run. He'll be
Speaker 1: fine at tackle. I don't think he's going to be
Speaker 1: I don't think he would be even be better at guard.
Speaker 1: You know, we talk about expectations a lot on this show.
Speaker 1: If the Cowboys would have gotten Lyle Collins of the
Speaker 1: first round pick, they did not because he dropped dropped. Obviously,
Speaker 1: they ended up getting him as a free agent. But
Speaker 1: if he would have been a first round pick, do
Speaker 1: you think that there would be talk that he has
Speaker 1: been not a bust. Yeah, but it has been a
Speaker 1: lot less than what they expected from a first round pick,
Speaker 1: especially thinking about the other three first round picks they
Speaker 1: have on that offensive line and what they've done really
Speaker 1: starting in their first years and they first got plugged in,
Speaker 1: all three of them immediately had some success. Yeah, Lyle,
Speaker 1: not quite right. Probably it wouldn't have been moved though.
Speaker 1: You drafted him and tackle, you wouldn't have. You have
Speaker 1: to meant guard. You would have drafted him in and
Speaker 1: tackle and you would have played there, and he would
Speaker 1: have stayed there, because that's how you have to justify
Speaker 1: your pick. So he would have you know, he might
Speaker 1: have been better, you know, playing This has been a
Speaker 1: year at tackle. If you can rewind this thing, because
Speaker 1: it's funny, you know. We report what we're told more often,
Speaker 1: like more so than our opinions, you know, And for
Speaker 1: forever the Cowboys front office was like, we like him
Speaker 1: at guard. We like him at guard, and so that's
Speaker 1: what we say. We're like, they like him at guard,
Speaker 1: they're gonna leave him there, and then they change their mind. Honestly,
Speaker 1: if you know, going rewinding it back to January or February,
Speaker 1: I would have been intrigued to see what the offensive
Speaker 1: line would look like with Lyle playing left guard and
Speaker 1: Chaz Green playing right tackle, but they decided that they
Speaker 1: wanted to play him at tackle. He has been way
Speaker 1: better than he's gotten credit for, in my opinion. If
Speaker 1: you go watch the games, you can see that. And
Speaker 1: you know, as much as I don't like to admit it,
Speaker 1: the concerns about Chaz Green's durability have been confirmed again,
Speaker 1: I guess is the word I'm looking for. So as
Speaker 1: having said that, having said that, I would have liked
Speaker 1: to have seen that. I don't have a problem with
Speaker 1: the decision at all. And I think he's been better
Speaker 1: than he's gotten credit for, and I think he will
Speaker 1: continue to get better and that will be a good thing.
Speaker 1: In the long run, people are just very impatient, don't
Speaker 1: you think they were also scared off and it's being
Speaker 1: it's kind of beared out to be true, but they
Speaker 1: were scared of maybe placing him at guard and putting
Speaker 1: Chaz Green a tackle because of the fact that they
Speaker 1: were afraid of his durability from side. They have any
Speaker 1: other options? I think if Chads go down to tackle,
Speaker 1: you don't have a lot of other options. He goes
Speaker 1: down to guard, you've got a few options. All of
Speaker 1: the factors. The Cowboys have been justified at many turns
Speaker 1: in that decision because like Lyle has played pretty well
Speaker 1: in my opinion, and Chads Green has had problems staying
Speaker 1: on the field. So you know the fact that your
Speaker 1: tackle spot is solid, but you've got questions at guard.
Speaker 1: I think that's preferable, and so like a, yeah, I
Speaker 1: would have liked to have seen that combination, like I
Speaker 1: just said, but I don't fault them at all for
Speaker 1: what they did, and I think it's working out pretty
Speaker 1: well so far. All right, let's take a question from Twitter.
Speaker 1: So if the whole scene suspension does come into fact
Speaker 1: and he keeps going forward like that, do you guys
Speaker 1: think that Switzer will get more action in the slot
Speaker 1: with Beastley, I hope. So that's I thought about that
Speaker 1: because the conundrum has been, well, who you've taken off
Speaker 1: the field to put Switzer on, and it's probably gonna
Speaker 1: be Jason Witten or Zeek. So now you think instead
Speaker 1: of maybe going to eleven personnel, especially when they go
Speaker 1: empty eleven, now what they do is they just have
Speaker 1: a tight end, no running back and an extra wide receiver.
Speaker 1: You theoretically could or and we've seen Switzer motion in
Speaker 1: the backfield a couple of times as well. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not trying to anoint the guy because
Speaker 1: he hasn't done anything to deserve that yet. And the
Speaker 1: biggest play, the most meaningful play of his season so far,
Speaker 1: as a muffed punt. But you know, he's a he's
Speaker 1: a shifty guy, he looks dynamic with the ball in
Speaker 1: his hands, and I think it would be a shame
Speaker 1: not to again, kind of like what I said about
Speaker 1: Rod Smith, give you know, it'd be a shame not
Speaker 1: to give him the opportunity to do something with that.
Speaker 1: So maybe a silver lining of this is that you
Speaker 1: can find more ways to get him onto the field.
Speaker 1: This is kind of hard to answer, but do you
Speaker 1: guys think think that the Cowboys address everything that needed
Speaker 1: to be addressed during this bye week? Kind of wish
Speaker 1: Navarro Bowman was on the team, but be nice address,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I don't think there's a good
Speaker 1: way to answer that until you see him play another game.
Speaker 1: I think Sean Lee coming back to good health, Anthony
Speaker 1: Hitchins getting another week, Cheeto getting a week. I mean,
Speaker 1: all those things sound good and hopefully it leads to
Speaker 1: better results for your defense, but you also may have
Speaker 1: lost your running back. Yeah, there's that too, and offsets
Speaker 1: those things for sure that are kind of positive. Although sorry,
Speaker 1: go ahead, they'll probably be a roster move today. I
Speaker 1: would imagine they'll they'll, I mean, the interesting part about
Speaker 1: this situation is Zeke is off the roster and on
Speaker 1: the suspension list. But you can't just go and just
Speaker 1: replace him right now because you might be it might
Speaker 1: be back. But that's why this is going down today
Speaker 1: at one thirty UM, So they'll have that spot. I
Speaker 1: think they have another spot open too, with maybe with
Speaker 1: Paya being on injured reserve UM slash retire or whatever
Speaker 1: whatever list, they decided to put him on, but they'll
Speaker 1: have two spots open too, So I mean, if they
Speaker 1: wanted to sign Bowman, they'll probably sign some linebacker. I
Speaker 1: would imagine, you know, to to help or the then
Speaker 1: you know, maybe call up one of those young tackles,
Speaker 1: Richard ash or Lewis Neil maybe or Paya. It's an idea. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true, could help. Um. It's funny because it reminds
Speaker 1: me of a preseason debate that I had with brought
Speaker 1: us like it got really animated too, which was, when
Speaker 1: does it not right? Would you rather try to make
Speaker 1: this offense work without Zeke or try to make this
Speaker 1: defense work without Lee? So you're gonna get a good
Speaker 1: look at it now, I mean, so you know, let
Speaker 1: you rather have Lee on the defense. I actually, I
Speaker 1: will say I argued that I'd way rather have Zeke
Speaker 1: because going back to what I've said time and time again,
Speaker 1: you're only going You're only as good as your offense is,
Speaker 1: and your offense isn't as good without him. But but
Speaker 1: what we saw, what we saw when Lee was not playing,
Speaker 1: is that this defense is so bad that even if
Speaker 1: you score thirty plus, you're not necessarily going to get
Speaker 1: a win. I will gladly eat microw. We're gonna get
Speaker 1: to see it. It looks like, assuming Zeke is suspended
Speaker 1: and Lee is healthy, we're going to get to see
Speaker 1: what this looks like where your best defenders playing and
Speaker 1: you're trying to make it work with your other running backs.
Speaker 1: And if it turns out that they're actually better in
Speaker 1: that situation, then I'll gladly admit I was wrong. The
Speaker 1: thing is the drop off between Zeke and say how
Speaker 1: Fred Morris or a dear McFadden, whichever one you want
Speaker 1: to plug in, and then Sean Lee versus Jalen Smith.
Speaker 1: I guess at this point, I think the drop between
Speaker 1: those two is vastly different. I think the linebacker position
Speaker 1: is a much bigger drop between one to two than
Speaker 1: there is at the running back Jayalen was playing anyways,
Speaker 1: you know, but you know, justin Durant it has been
Speaker 1: playing more. I mean that's really the drop off. I
Speaker 1: think Sean leads to Durant because Jalen Smith was out there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think the problem is the more weeks that
Speaker 1: Jalen is playing a huge number of plays, the more
Speaker 1: we've seen him get exposed. And so I think if
Speaker 1: you if you're gonna get good play out of him
Speaker 1: this year while he's returning and getting himself back into
Speaker 1: it and that, and again, as far as last I've heard,
Speaker 1: he still didn't have one hundred percent feeling in that leg.
Speaker 1: So with all that being said, I still think that,
Speaker 1: you know, Jalen is still if you're gonna put him
Speaker 1: out there as a starter and play him sixty seventy plays,
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be a problem for you. Anthony
Speaker 1: Hitchins is nowhere near as good of a player as
Speaker 1: Sean Lee, but I don't think you can underestimate how
Speaker 1: big it is having him back alongside Sean Lee, because
Speaker 1: now you've got an all pro playing with a competent,
Speaker 1: uninjured starter as opposed to a rookie who's not one
Speaker 1: hundred percent healthy who's still trying to feel his way.
Speaker 1: I think that having having leadback is huge, but having
Speaker 1: both of them back, I think that's what really matters.
Speaker 1: After taking a week off and being able to analyze
Speaker 1: this team. What is still the biggest area of concern
Speaker 1: for you guys? Easily safety for me, And that was
Speaker 1: what it was a week ago, it's what it still
Speaker 1: is now. What do you guys think probably stopping the run,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, just which they play into that
Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, I think I answer this question.
Speaker 1: We answered this on Thursday for the gut feeling. And
Speaker 1: my biggest concern is the fact that they're not making
Speaker 1: any plays on turnovers. They're not getting any turnovers. That
Speaker 1: could be the safeties aren't doing anything that could be that.
Speaker 1: They're not ripping the ball out and not getting picks.
Speaker 1: And I get enough pressure, you know, and I know
Speaker 1: they have the sack leader, but you know, what was it?
Speaker 1: What is it doing? I mean, I mean he's caused
Speaker 1: one fumble that led to a touchdown in Denver, but
Speaker 1: that's really it. So for turnovers, So they need more
Speaker 1: tour over somehow, some way, they need more turnovers. I
Speaker 1: think I said in that story that I thought it
Speaker 1: was the offensive line in the ground game, and that
Speaker 1: was before I knew that Ezekiel Elliott would be suspended.
Speaker 1: So I mean that's definitely concerning. And I said, I'm
Speaker 1: not ready to write them off. But you know, for
Speaker 1: the millionth time, I think this team is only as
Speaker 1: good as their offense, and I know that their defense
Speaker 1: is bad. I get that, and they do need to
Speaker 1: be able to stop the run, and they haven't caused
Speaker 1: enough turnovers. But if their offense is one dimensional and
Speaker 1: can't move the ball, then it doesn't None of that matters.
Speaker 1: You know, I maybe being a naive. I probably am
Speaker 1: to some degree. I just always assume that, assuming Zeke
Speaker 1: wasn't going to be suspended, that as a season war
Speaker 1: on the running game would get going because I just
Speaker 1: felt like, with this offensive line, you got two pieces
Speaker 1: that are new, it was going to take some time
Speaker 1: for them to really jail. I expected that over time
Speaker 1: they'd get better and by the time you hit the
Speaker 1: midway point, they'd be in a stride. And that's what
Speaker 1: she really wants. You want them to be in a
Speaker 1: stride by the end. I think everything changes if Zeke's
Speaker 1: not there. That doesn't mean the running game goes to nothing,
Speaker 1: but I think it does change because you're not going
Speaker 1: to have that explosive guy to running back position that
Speaker 1: you that you once had. Yep, move Crawford back to
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. Does it matter? Well, I mean, I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be right. What I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: I don't know that he was when he was at tackle.
Speaker 1: He wasn't He wasn't making game changing type plays at
Speaker 1: defensive end. He's not really making game changing type plays.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if it makes a huge difference.
Speaker 1: Where do you need him? Like do you need where
Speaker 1: do you need a body? He's a steady guy, he's
Speaker 1: a solid guy, but going to Knick's point, he's not
Speaker 1: going to get you a ton of turnover no matter
Speaker 1: where you put him. Right As of right now, don't
Speaker 1: they only have two full fledged defensive tackles on the roster.
Speaker 1: That's my problem, which is why I think I would
Speaker 1: expect that either Richard ass or a Richard ash or
Speaker 1: Lewis Neil will probably be called up at some point
Speaker 1: just because you need I mean, you need somebody there,
Speaker 1: so somebody needs to play tackle. It can be Tyron Crawford,
Speaker 1: it can be Lewis and need Collins, Brian Price. You
Speaker 1: don't call You don't think that that's where Urban's got.
Speaker 1: I think Iran's okay. Yeah, I mean, well, you know
Speaker 1: you've got Irving, Tyrone and even Taco that can do both.
Speaker 1: So I mean, yeah, I know you have tackles there.
Speaker 1: But that's my point is full fledged no questions asked,
Speaker 1: did he play defensive end this last game? I thought
Speaker 1: the only time I saw him was at tack out,
Speaker 1: and that's fine. Probably, yeah, I would think that you
Speaker 1: still have Crawford moving back and forth a little bit
Speaker 1: depending on the play. Taco will be there, but but
Speaker 1: they probably could use someone else. I mean, because now
Speaker 1: they have five down and Tapper, so maybe I'm missing
Speaker 1: a guy. I got Lawrence and Mayo, Mayowa and and Taco.
Speaker 1: Who what? Who else is playing end? I guess Crawford.
Speaker 1: So so either Crawford plays tackle on you another end,
Speaker 1: or Crawford plays end and you need another tackle. And
Speaker 1: since you have two defensive tackles on the practice squad
Speaker 1: and no ends, right, probably makes more sense to do that.
Speaker 1: I was going over all day, guys in my head,
Speaker 1: I'm like, is it bad that I kind of forgot
Speaker 1: about Taco? That's bad. Yeah, it's not good. I'm not good.
Speaker 1: It's actually really not good. All right, We appreciate you, guys,
Speaker 1: Joan us. We're back tomorrow nine thirty at our normal time.
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