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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay, Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in our number two Friday

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Speaker 1: edition Play Travis buck Sexton Show. I hope all of

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Speaker 1: you are having fantastic starts to your early weekend as

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Speaker 1: you hang out with us. Lots of interesting stories continuing

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Speaker 1: to develop as we will continue to talk with you.

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Speaker 1: We've got some great guests coming up in the next

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Speaker 1: couple of hours. Joseph Latipos, Surgeon General of Florida, schedule

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Speaker 1: to join us at the top of the third hour

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Speaker 1: about an hour from now, our friend Alex Barrenson at

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Speaker 1: two thirty East Coast time for the latest on the

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Speaker 1: data surrounding COVID. We're going to figure out the latest

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Speaker 1: on Ukraine with Yates, who is going to be pretty fantastic.

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Speaker 1: All that still to come. Well, I want to give

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Speaker 1: some props here if you've been paying attention at all

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Speaker 1: to the way that the media has covered a bill

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Speaker 1: in Florida which is designed to ensure that kindergartner's first graders,

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Speaker 1: second graders, and third graders effectively are not exposed to

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Speaker 1: sex related education. Right, so you're not going to hear

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Speaker 1: about heterosexual sex You're not going to hear about gay sex.

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Speaker 1: You're not going to hear about transgenderism. You're not gonna

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Speaker 1: hear about any of that, which I think most parents

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Speaker 1: think is appropriate for five year old to eight year

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Speaker 1: think that he needs to be figuring out how the

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Speaker 1: birds and the bees work in first grade school. I

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Speaker 1: don't think we need to have a deep analysis of

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Speaker 1: heterosexuality versus homosexuality, versus transgender all these different things. To me,

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Speaker 1: as a parent of a public school kid, it seems

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Speaker 1: appropriate that that is not topically accurate for young kids.

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Speaker 1: So this is turned into the way that the mainstream

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Speaker 1: media has covered it, the don't Say Gay bill, and

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Speaker 1: so you've got all different sorts of politicians running around

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Speaker 1: screaming the word gay, which is supposedly being prohibited from classroom.

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Speaker 1: Of course not true. It's actually just designed to ensure

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Speaker 1: that kids are learning age appropriate lessons. So Disney, which

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Speaker 1: is based in many ways in Florida, many of you

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Speaker 1: listening probably have been to Disney World. Certainly a lot

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Speaker 1: of you listening have had your kids watch Disney related programming.

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Speaker 1: Probably a lot of you are Disney Plus subscribers. All

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Speaker 1: of those things true for me. Disney as a new

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Speaker 1: CEO is name's Bob Chapeck, and so far he has

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Speaker 1: not been as politically active as Bob Eiger, who was

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Speaker 1: President of the United States. Bob Iger still might run

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Speaker 1: for President of the United States at some point, and he,

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Speaker 1: as a result, raced many parts of left wing ideology.

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Speaker 1: For instance, when Jamal Hill, formerly of ESPN, called the

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Speaker 1: President of the United States, Donald Trump, a white supremacist,

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Speaker 1: And Bob Jabeck has tried. The new CEO has tried

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Speaker 1: to stay out of the political fray. But there were

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Speaker 1: this bill that finally Disney issued a statement and ripped

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Speaker 1: the state of Florida for passing this new bill. And

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Speaker 1: here's the deal. Lots of people out there who are

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Speaker 1: Ron DeSantis was not going to stand for that. So

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Speaker 1: yesterday in an event in Boca Ratone, he specifically said,

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Speaker 1: shouldn't have woke gender ideology and posts in their curriculums.

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Speaker 1: And that is what we're standing for, because we're standing

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Speaker 1: The chances of that are zero. That's the way you

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Speaker 1: got to do with Clay. It is so he's right,

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Speaker 1: he's right on the facts here. But as we know,

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Speaker 1: We're not going to live in this fantasy world that

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Speaker 1: You can't do that, and I'm not going to let

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Speaker 1: you do that. Ronda Santis terrifies libs. Whatever one thinks

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Speaker 1: But this is the the federalism that we have at work.

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Speaker 1: And Rhonda Santis is always putting on a clinic not

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Speaker 1: people want to come there. Right, It's not easy to

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Speaker 1: It's not the most straightforward thing. You might have a family,

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Speaker 1: let's just call it the fake news. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: they were able to do in last week, Clay the

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Speaker 1: And Rhonda Santists throwing a haymaker here. Well, plus it's

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Speaker 1: idea because I'm talking about taking my kids to disney World,

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Speaker 1: by Sneakers too, were in the business of appealing to

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Speaker 1: the Gina Corona thing happened because it was just so

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Speaker 1: otherwise like some content, Right, it's stupid. The same thing

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Speaker 1: I just wish they would say, hey, you know what,

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Speaker 1: But you know, look, I mean Colin Kaepernick. I was

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Speaker 1: And so Colin Kaepernick in his documentary that Netfick Netflix

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Speaker 1: is whether enough of a deterrent can be put in

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Speaker 1: place and whether sanctions actually bite, which I don't think

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Speaker 1: they're strategically biting sufficiently yet to change his calculus to

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Speaker 1: just accept where he has taken territory and call to day.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Steve, that Putin would be willing to

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Speaker 1: use tactical nukes based on what we are seeing so far,

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Speaker 1: or do you think the threat is more bark than

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Speaker 1: it is bite. How do we analyze his perspective here,

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Speaker 1: given that many of his decisions seem to have surprised

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Speaker 1: the so called experts so far. Well, I think that's

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Speaker 1: the real challenge in it that everything has been a

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Speaker 1: surprise to the intelligence set so far, and I think

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Speaker 1: that there's no question that he is willing to do things.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's been willing to assassinate and poison foreign leaders,

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Speaker 1: He's been willing to spread all kinds of noxious things

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Speaker 1: in the system. And he is of course collaborating with

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Speaker 1: the People's Republic of China, which unleased the toxic virus

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Speaker 1: out into the world for two years. So I don't

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Speaker 1: think we can count on their sense of humanity or restraint.

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Speaker 1: There's been talk of tactical nuclear weapons openly for a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Now. I'd like to believe that wouldn't happen,

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Speaker 1: but I think we have to be very, very prepared

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Speaker 1: for all outcomes at this point. Stephen, what would you

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Speaker 1: advise the Bid administration to do right now if you

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Speaker 1: the Bush administration. Number one, First, do no harm. Let

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Speaker 1: others who want to help the Ukrainians the way they choose,

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Speaker 1: go and go forward and do it. Number Two, I

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Speaker 1: think you find a way to press the Europeans to

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Speaker 1: go much further, much faster on realigning their dependency relationships

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Speaker 1: and in their defense capabilities, because America has big challenges

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Speaker 1: in other parts of the world too. It cannot afford

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Speaker 1: it itself. Outstanding stuff. Where do you see? As I

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Speaker 1: guess last question. I know predicting is so incredibly difficult

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Speaker 1: all the data right now trying to analyze it, where

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Speaker 1: are we going from here over the next couple of weeks. Well,

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Speaker 1: with regard to Russia Ukraine, I think we're pushing toward

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Speaker 1: a moment a possible decision about is a deal to

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Speaker 1: be had and our serious leader is going to come

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Speaker 1: to the table and try to impose one that gives

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Speaker 1: It's guarantees that it seeks. That's an ugly deal, one

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Speaker 1: no one really wants, but that might be the only

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Speaker 1: way that this military on flip takes at least a pause.

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Speaker 1: Otherwise we're grinding ahead with what we have seen and

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Speaker 1: the people of Ukraine will continue to pay a dear price.

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Speaker 1: Steve and Yids, thank you for giving us the time

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Speaker 1: something pret fascinating. There is a new poll out from

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Speaker 1: And there are many different aspects of this poll that

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Speaker 1: which is a seismic gap relative to the historical Wall

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Speaker 1: Street Journal poll. And where is that gain coming from?

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Speaker 1: I flagged this because I thought it was so interesting.

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Speaker 1: Where that where that gain? Again? Republicans with a five

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Speaker 1: deficit overall in the congressional numbers. But where where's the

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Speaker 1: game coming from? In the new poll Compared to in November,

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Speaker 1: Hispanic voters now say that they would back Republicans by

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Speaker 1: nine points. Now, assuming again I understand all the reticence

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Speaker 1: and nervousness associated with Poles in general, but Republicans have

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Speaker 1: surged among minority groups. According to this Wall Street Journal poll,

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Speaker 1: nine percentage point favorites now among Hispanic voters. The two

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Speaker 1: parties were tied in the Journal survey in November, and

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Speaker 1: black voters have also moved into the Republican camp. As

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Speaker 1: it pertains to Congress, down from they had a fifty

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Speaker 1: six point lead Democrats did, it's now down to thirty

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Speaker 1: five points, and Republican candidates support among black voters has

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Speaker 1: risen to twenty seven percent, which, by the way, if

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Speaker 1: Republicans ever got twenty seven percent of the black vote,

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Speaker 1: the Democratic Party as we know it ceases to exist,

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Speaker 1: and it may cease to exist if we end up

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Speaker 1: with a favorite in the Hispanic vote. But that twenty

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Speaker 1: seven percent of black support is up from twelve percent

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Speaker 1: in November. But do you buy these moves in terms

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Speaker 1: of I was just saying five point lead. Now the

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Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal says that Republicans have overall in the

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Speaker 1: congressional race, which we're talking about nineteen ninety four two

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Speaker 1: ten level dominance trending right now based on those numbers,

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Speaker 1: if we always have to say they're accurate, if not

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Speaker 1: now when yeah, if it wasn't true. Given what we

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Speaker 1: are seeing, and as we've pointed out so many times,

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Speaker 1: it's almost hard to find an area where the Biden

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Speaker 1: administration has a compelling narrative of anything other than incompetence,

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Speaker 1: bad decision making, and things going poorly. You can't actually

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Speaker 1: find anything prominent right now to speak of where you'd say, oh, no,

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Speaker 1: they've done a great job with or wow, that actually

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Speaker 1: worked out like they said it would. We can't really

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Speaker 1: criticize that that actually benefited the American people. That doesn't

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Speaker 1: really exist with this administration. Clay, we are asked just

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Speaker 1: to reiterate, we're having serious talks right now as a

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Speaker 1: country about how do we avoid a full scale military

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Speaker 1: confrontation with a nuclear armed Russia. Remember all the hysteria

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Speaker 1: when Trump was president He's going to start a war

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Speaker 1: with North Korea. We're gonna have news he's gonna and

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Speaker 1: everyone just looked at them like, what are you even

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Speaker 1: talking about? I mean, there was it was fantasyland stuff

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Speaker 1: that they were pushing. This is real and this is

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Speaker 1: happening on Biden's watch. The economy is going to get

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Speaker 1: if this war continues for months, and it's certainly gonna

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Speaker 1: look like it's going to continue for weeks, But if

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Speaker 1: it continues for months, we're gonna we're gonna feel economic

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Speaker 1: impact here because a lot a lot of you know,

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Speaker 1: it's it's all driven by the markets are all driven

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Speaker 1: by fear and greed, they say, right, Essentially sentiment, How

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Speaker 1: What do they believe, you know, corporate profits will be like,

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Speaker 1: economic stability will look like in six months and twelve months.

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Speaker 1: If this war drags on, people are going to have

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Speaker 1: more negative I'm just talking about the economy now, negative sentiment.

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Speaker 1: The economy is going to suffer as a result of it.

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Speaker 1: Inflation is going to go higher, and people are going

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Speaker 1: to see what that does to their ability to pay

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Speaker 1: their bills, what it does their four or one case?

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Speaker 1: What exactly would anyone have to be thankful about? No

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Speaker 1: mean tweets. We don't get as many lectures about the

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Speaker 1: make belief threat of the white nationalist takeover of the

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Speaker 1: White House. I mean, is this this is what we're

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Speaker 1: supposed to be thankful for. We're worried about nuclear war

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Speaker 1: and the implosion of the US economy into our recession,

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Speaker 1: and they want to tell us, don't worry. We're doing

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Speaker 1: great stuff on climate change, and you know, gender identity

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Speaker 1: and equal pay for women. This is what I mean