Speaker 1: Hey, the folks, it is Monday, March second, and we
Speaker 1: just heard from President Trump, seeing him live for the
Speaker 1: first time since the war with Iran started, and he
Speaker 1: gave us an update on the war, and then the
Speaker 1: next breath gave us an update on White House drapes.
Speaker 1: That welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. That
Speaker 1: was it wasn't I mean, it was weird.
Speaker 2: It was bizarre.
Speaker 3: There were several moments when you and I were listening
Speaker 3: to the President.
Speaker 2: Talk about being at war with Iran.
Speaker 3: This is the first time we've heard from him live
Speaker 3: since we went to war, because that two thirty a
Speaker 3: m appearance of his was a videotape message to the public. So, yeah,
Speaker 3: this is the first time we're seeing him live. This
Speaker 3: is serious. We have four American debts. He's honoring fallen
Speaker 3: soldiers and some of the things he said. We just
Speaker 3: kept looking at each other with a huh expression on
Speaker 3: our face.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And we always want to give space for President
Speaker 1: Trump to just be President Trump was, and we should.
Speaker 1: This is kind of an important distinction here. Didn't take
Speaker 1: questions and this was not an event set up for
Speaker 1: the President to officially give us a briefing about the war.
Speaker 1: This was a metal of honor ceremony, had families had,
Speaker 1: This was a big event at the White House, and
Speaker 1: they he took I'm not sure how many minutes off
Speaker 1: the top, there maybe ten tops to give some updates
Speaker 1: on the war, and at times he was immediately started
Speaker 1: cracking jokes a little bit and this weird moment, we'll
Speaker 1: let you hear it. In a moment in which he
Speaker 1: started talking about the drapes. Not the biggest deal in
Speaker 1: the world, but it just we went from one thing
Speaker 1: to the other end. He did not take questions, but
Speaker 1: roll as we got a significant update, I guess coming
Speaker 1: from the president. We heard from hegseeth earlier, but to
Speaker 1: hear this stuff directly from the President's mouth is making headlines.
Speaker 3: Yes, And in fact, Pete hegseth Or earlier today was
Speaker 3: asked about what the objectives were of going to war with.
Speaker 2: Iran, and President Trump did make it very.
Speaker 3: Clear what those objectives were, and the first one was
Speaker 3: to take out missile capabilities, because he has said and
Speaker 3: has told us that Iran is trying to and was
Speaker 3: close to or at least I don't know what close
Speaker 3: to means, but potentially could have missiles that could reach
Speaker 3: as far as the United States, so it was imperative
Speaker 3: we'll get to that second, your missile capabilities, But there
Speaker 3: were other objectives as well.
Speaker 1: Yes, take out their navy, that was once stated by
Speaker 1: Hexeth as well also keep them Basically, this is what
Speaker 1: they've been saying, and every administration for years has been saying,
Speaker 1: you can't let them get a nuclear weapon. He said that,
Speaker 1: but he's also said another objective is to make sure
Speaker 1: they don't have the power outside of their own border.
Speaker 1: They want to keep them from having their direct proxies
Speaker 1: outside of the border in other places, in other countries.
Speaker 1: Essentially an extension of their own army or their military,
Speaker 1: is what he's trying to suggest. Now. The reason we
Speaker 1: have to do all of that, and the reason they
Speaker 1: need to do all that stuff we're OBEs is because
Speaker 1: apparently now Ron was the gravest of grave threats and
Speaker 1: immediate threats to the United States in a way that's
Speaker 1: being explained now that wasn't necessarily the same tune that
Speaker 1: people were drumming.
Speaker 2: Yes, we discussed that, maybe a takeaway.
Speaker 3: There were a couple of them from what we heard
Speaker 3: from the President today, but among them was maybe that
Speaker 3: this is a situation where, yes, we went to war,
Speaker 3: and now we're hearing the justification for it. Typically we
Speaker 3: hear things in the other order. You make the case
Speaker 3: to Congress, you make the case to the American people,
Speaker 3: You explain.
Speaker 2: Why we're going to war.
Speaker 3: We've already been at war now for two days, I believe,
Speaker 3: And now we're starting to understand, or at least hear
Speaker 3: from directly from the President, the justification for going to war, and.
Speaker 1: They starting to they are starting to get a kind
Speaker 1: of a consistent message here.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: We certainly heard it from Hegseth, We heard it from
Speaker 1: the President, but it's sounds like robes. They are going
Speaker 1: to continue to make this case right now. There are
Speaker 1: plenty of experts who say it's not the case that
Speaker 1: Iran was not this grave imminent threat, but this is
Speaker 1: what they are standing by right now. We're used to
Speaker 1: the President saying this is a terrible terrorist regime, is
Speaker 1: what he calls it.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: He said they were close. He even said something about
Speaker 1: a back and forth on negotiations. He said, we were
Speaker 1: close to a deal. We thought we had one, and
Speaker 1: then they backed out, they came back again. We thought
Speaker 1: we were close, and then they backed out, and he
Speaker 1: said finally they just had to say ah ah and
Speaker 1: move forward. But he made it sound like they were
Speaker 1: close and the Iranians kept renigging on whatever deal was close.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it definitely. He made it sound as though it
Speaker 3: were imminent. He said Iran would soon have had missile
Speaker 3: capability of reaching our beautiful America and said that our
Speaker 3: country was very nearly under threat from Iran and the other.
Speaker 1: They were on the road to getting a nuclear weapon
Speaker 1: legitimately through a deal we signed food by our country,
Speaker 1: and that's where he mentioned former President Obama several times,
Speaker 1: but ropes. He's saying there was an imminent danger to
Speaker 1: this country. He said they were very close to having
Speaker 1: a missile that could reach us. That's new to at
Speaker 1: least the experts out there, the security folks who keep
Speaker 1: an eye on this stuff.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, and also a little puzzling. He did try
Speaker 3: to explain this. We were questioning earlier when we heard
Speaker 3: from Hegseth, because we heard so much obviously about Operation
Speaker 3: Midnight Hammer, where we sent our fighter jets to send
Speaker 3: those missiles bombs that went underneath.
Speaker 2: To take out the nuclear facilities.
Speaker 3: And he said it again today that we obliterated Iran's
Speaker 3: nuclear program. So if that's the case, how could they
Speaker 3: be so close to then developing missiles that could reach
Speaker 3: America nuclear weapons? He claims that they started rebuilding in
Speaker 3: other locations.
Speaker 1: But again, Babe, you don't have to be the way
Speaker 1: you just laid it out. You don't have have to
Speaker 1: be a national security expert. What you just laid out
Speaker 1: just common sensically. You're just you just obliterated it. And
Speaker 1: how is the new place they're trying to set up
Speaker 1: so far along in a matter of months that this
Speaker 1: action has to take place. Those are questions a lay person,
Speaker 1: and also members of Congress and others are starting.
Speaker 3: To ask, yes, because as a lay person, I have
Speaker 3: no concept of how long it would take to rebuild
Speaker 3: or re establish a nuclear laboratory in which I'm trying
Speaker 3: to en reach enriched uranium to the point where I
Speaker 3: can blast off a nuclear weapon. No concept what that
Speaker 3: timeline is, no concept if I've retained some of those
Speaker 3: nuclear scientists who knew or know what they're doing, where
Speaker 3: they could start again from ground zero and build it
Speaker 3: back up in a matter of months, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It seems crazy to me, But what do I know?
Speaker 1: But he's saying new locations, different locations than the ones
Speaker 1: that were obliterated. That were his words today, and that
Speaker 1: is going to be a big part of the debate.
Speaker 1: But Robes, a nuclear program they've been working on for decades,
Speaker 1: was just obliterated, and you're telling me they got it
Speaker 1: up and running again to the point of threat in
Speaker 1: the time it takes to build a car. I mean,
Speaker 1: that just doesn't make a whole toilet a person.
Speaker 4: You know what?
Speaker 3: You you just hit something that that resonated with me,
Speaker 3: because anyone who has ever had new construction, whether it's
Speaker 3: a remodeling project or you're building a house from the
Speaker 3: ground up, nothing gets done in.
Speaker 2: A matter of months.
Speaker 3: But maybe if you have an entire country devoted to
Speaker 3: the nuclear new nuclear facility, maybe it's possible.
Speaker 1: Okay, So how long is this going to take? This
Speaker 1: is these were headlines already wrote even before today and
Speaker 1: before Hexceth and Trump came out and spoke. Americans want
Speaker 1: to know how long is this going to take?
Speaker 3: H As long as necessary is what we were told.
Speaker 3: We've heard four to five weeks, we've heard a couple months.
Speaker 3: I thought it was interesting this one was one of
Speaker 3: the moments where I turned to you and was like, huh.
Speaker 3: But he started talking about how some folks, and I don't.
Speaker 2: Know who these people are, suggested that he would get.
Speaker 3: Bored with the war with Iran after a few weeks
Speaker 3: if it continued past a week or two. And then
Speaker 3: he said, looking into the camera, I don't get bored.
Speaker 3: There's nothing boring about it. That was bizarre to me.
Speaker 3: Who's saying it's.
Speaker 2: Boring to go to war? I don't know what he
Speaker 2: was or who he was referencing.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he saw some things where I actually do
Speaker 1: not know, but you could imagine that, right they think, oh,
Speaker 1: he's doing this. Now, he'll get bored of this and
Speaker 1: move on to the next thing, into the next thing.
Speaker 1: We were in Venezuela. We moved on to the next thing,
Speaker 1: kind of a idea, and he apparently whatever it was
Speaker 1: caught him enough that he wanted he wanted to address
Speaker 1: that today. We should address this is not a manner
Speaker 1: of his mental capacity here, but he looked tired. I mean,
Speaker 1: we remember sometimes this is a seventy nine year old man,
Speaker 1: and he obviously the past several days the weekend, we're
Speaker 1: roughing and demanded a lot of tension. But he was
Speaker 1: I mean, he was slumping on that podium at times,
Speaker 1: and he was rambling at times, he was speaking slowly,
Speaker 1: even slurre at times. He just looked and sounded tired today.
Speaker 3: That's a good way to put it, and I would
Speaker 3: go maybe even a step further and unfocused, distracted, and
Speaker 3: that could speak to a level of fatigue if you
Speaker 3: think about all of what he is managing and handling
Speaker 3: from the war in Iran, the situation in Venezuela, our
Speaker 3: world economy that's now tanking because of this war with Iran.
Speaker 3: That's just internationally, so to speak. We're talking about DHS
Speaker 3: isn't funded. You've got protests in the street, You've got
Speaker 3: concerns about retaliatory strikes here in the homeland from rogue
Speaker 3: terrorist cells that could possibly be activated because.
Speaker 2: Of this world.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's I can't even get my head around
Speaker 3: all the things he's juggling.
Speaker 2: And then we'll get into how he brings.
Speaker 3: Up the ballroom construction on top of it all, because
Speaker 3: that must be top of mind, because hey, he's got
Speaker 3: a construction.
Speaker 2: Project going on right around him with all of.
Speaker 3: This massive news of significant importance going on.
Speaker 1: Hey, the dude can walk at your gun at the
Speaker 1: same time apparently, and play the banjo and moonwalk and
Speaker 1: every whatever you need him to do. He can do
Speaker 1: it all at the same time. He gets bored, and
Speaker 1: he does not get bored. It doesn't seem like he does,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, but yes, everything she just
Speaker 1: listed that the President is keeping an eye on right now,
Speaker 1: including war. He still has time for the drapes. We'll
Speaker 1: let you here for yourself. A turn that the President
Speaker 1: took in the East Room and explaining and explaining some uh,
Speaker 1: some de corps he's in favor of stare.
Speaker 3: Welcome back, everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ,
Speaker 3: where we are discussing hearing from the President of the
Speaker 3: United States for the first time since we went to
Speaker 3: war with Iran, and the President had a lot to say.
Speaker 3: Some of it was interesting, making headlines among them that
Speaker 3: he says, we'll stay in Iran as long as it takes,
Speaker 3: but he was suggesting four to five weeks or maybe
Speaker 3: even longer. Making sure that the Americans and the world
Speaker 3: understands that he has focused that all resources are going
Speaker 3: towards Iran, and that he is not going to get
Speaker 3: bored of this.
Speaker 2: War and move on to something new.
Speaker 3: He is certainly prepared to go the distance to see
Speaker 3: this through. And as we heard from Pete Hegseth earlier,
Speaker 3: even though this is not a regime change, we've certainly
Speaker 3: now seen a change in regime.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know what, I guess maybe we're coming
Speaker 1: to expect it, but I guess heg Seth's tone and
Speaker 1: bravado was a little stronger today than President Trump's. Is
Speaker 1: that fair to say?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes it was.
Speaker 3: And look, it was interesting because he started talking.
Speaker 2: You know, everyone wants to know how long. Oh, and
Speaker 2: he also this was interesting.
Speaker 3: He made a very specific point to say that he,
Speaker 3: unlike other presidents, is not afraid to put boots on
Speaker 3: the ground, and that would even take what we heard
Speaker 3: from Pete Hegseth earlier to another level.
Speaker 2: I mean, he flat out said I am.
Speaker 3: Not ruling out boots on the ground, that he's not
Speaker 3: afraid to do so. But then he also said that
Speaker 3: the plans were ahead of schedule in terms of the timeline.
Speaker 3: He said it took them about an hour. Is that
Speaker 3: what he said? About an hour to take out the
Speaker 3: top leadership of Iran acting like.
Speaker 2: That was a breeze, so to speak.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, we just started to get into his mindset
Speaker 3: and a little bit about how long he thinks this
Speaker 3: thing will go, and yes, letting the world know we
Speaker 3: are in it for the long haul, but we're not
Speaker 3: nation building.
Speaker 1: Not nation building, but building. At the White House he
Speaker 1: actually said we're not nation building in some kind of way.
Speaker 1: I can't remember the actual transition he made, but he
Speaker 1: went directly from war to decorps in the White House.
Speaker 1: He absolutely did. Now wrote we have to remember this
Speaker 1: was a medal of honor ceremony and there were families
Speaker 1: in there, and it would have probably been an upbeat
Speaker 1: I know some of their family members had passed and what.
Speaker 1: But it did have kind of a a not even celebratory,
Speaker 1: but a nice feel. It was a warm feeling event,
Speaker 1: or it should have been, or would have been, had
Speaker 1: he not have to give the war updates. So in
Speaker 1: the context of not giving the war update, this might
Speaker 1: have seemed to fine.
Speaker 3: Yes, I think that's that's a very generous way to
Speaker 3: look at it. Absolutely that this would be the tone
Speaker 3: of the room had we not been at war, would
Speaker 3: be a tone of I do think you're celebrating the service,
Speaker 3: and you're honoring the service of FeH.
Speaker 2: That's a good way to put it, of these.
Speaker 3: Members of the military and their families. And so, yes,
Speaker 3: there is a warmth. There is there's gratitude. There's yeah,
Speaker 3: gratitude and celebration.
Speaker 1: You know what that helps me better? It was warmth.
Speaker 1: What the president was doing was something warm just in
Speaker 1: the moment. We didn't know what was happening where he
Speaker 1: was going, and he made this coming. Folks, this is
Speaker 1: not the biggest deal in the world, but this is
Speaker 1: the part that threw us off right at the top.
Speaker 1: Soon as he got done talking about war.
Speaker 4: The building a little bit. We're improving the building. See
Speaker 4: that nice drape. When that comes down right now, you
Speaker 4: see a very very deep hole. But in about a
Speaker 4: year and a half from now, you're going to see
Speaker 4: a very very beautiful building. And there's your entrance to
Speaker 4: it right there. In fact, it looks so nice, I
Speaker 4: don't think i'll even I think I'll save money on
Speaker 4: the doors, because you can't get more beautiful than that.
Speaker 4: I picked those drapes in my first term. I always
Speaker 4: like gold. But I think we can save a lot
Speaker 4: of money I just saved I just saved curtains. But
Speaker 4: it will be it'll be spectacular, be the most beautiful
Speaker 4: bull I believe it's because I built many a ballroom.
Speaker 4: I believe it's going to be the most beautiful ballroom
Speaker 4: anywhere in the world. And when you hear all that
Speaker 4: hammering out there, you know why the first lady is
Speaker 4: not thrilled exactly? She said, Well, the pile drivers ever stop.
Speaker 4: You know, they go from six in the morning till
Speaker 4: eleven thirty in the evening. Can you imagine here? You
Speaker 4: know what? To me, that's a beautiful sound. She doesn't
Speaker 4: like it. I love it, you know what? To me?
Speaker 4: Other than here, because we're donating it not a penny
Speaker 4: to the taxpayer. It'll be under budget, ahead of schedule.
Speaker 4: It'll be four hundred million or less. Most people say
Speaker 4: four hundred million or more. No, it'll be less. But
Speaker 4: when I hear that sound, that beautiful sound behind me,
Speaker 4: it means money. So I like it. But my wife
Speaker 4: is thrilled.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's classic kind of Trump.
Speaker 3: Yes, And I think in any other moment, it just
Speaker 3: came directly after talking about Americans and sacrifice and taking
Speaker 3: out Iranian leaders and the fact that there will be
Speaker 3: more American casualties almost certainly as this war continues. It's
Speaker 3: just a tough turn and an urn.
Speaker 2: We call it in the news business.
Speaker 1: A transition. You hate when some producer puts you in
Speaker 1: the position where you're talking about death and destruction that
Speaker 1: I have to turn to puppies surfing it. That's it
Speaker 1: was that kind of a it just feels weird. And
Speaker 1: this was not the biggest deal in the world, And
Speaker 1: that was kind of classic Trump. He literally just looked
Speaker 1: to his right, saw drapes and started talking about him
Speaker 1: right and to your point, unfocused kind of today. But no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's it just happened, and it just kind of threw
Speaker 1: us off. And it was and then the moon fude
Speaker 1: kind of changed again. He went to these cracking jokes
Speaker 1: and being kind of jovial to now telling these very
Speaker 1: serious stories about these family members and people who have
Speaker 1: sacrificed for these middles of honor. So I guess this
Speaker 1: is what we've come to expect and roller coasters, and
Speaker 1: he took us kind of on an emotional one in
Speaker 1: just a matter of thirty minutes a day.
Speaker 2: Yes, it was.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 3: I will say this he liked to say he wasn't boring,
Speaker 3: or he wasn't bored. It wasn't a boring press conference.
Speaker 3: I was waiting for the next thing that was going
Speaker 3: to come out of his mouth the entire time because
Speaker 3: I didn't know where he was going and what he
Speaker 3: was going to say next. And look, he captivated my
Speaker 3: attention the entire time.
Speaker 1: And again we'd need to at least a reminder here
Speaker 1: that as of this recording, the President did mention as well,
Speaker 1: we've lost service members in this war, at least four
Speaker 1: at this point, and this is war. We are at
Speaker 1: war right now. We don't think I haven't seen robes
Speaker 1: if there were any other plan press conferences today, but
Speaker 1: at this point we do not believe so. But the
Speaker 1: updates here are coming almost literally by the minute on
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