WEBVTT - Episode 367 - Rockies Recap, Mariners Preview 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:04.040 Episode three sixty seven of Bucco Banter. Today we recap 0:00:04.120 --> 0:00:08.160 the series loss versus the Colorado Rockies, and we preview 0:00:08.480 --> 0:00:12.799 the upcoming series versus the Seattle Aeriners. You're listening to 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:15.280 the Bucko Banter Podcast, brought to you by the Just 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:16.439 Baseball Media Network. 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:18.520 To you the music I feel. 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:18.840 One on one. 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:20.520 You see a couple of me in my Taste with 0:00:20.760 --> 0:00:23.800 y and my lemonade? Does the leta wait taste bet 0:00:23.840 --> 0:00:26.680 cease at the Pirates? Can he let me run the base? Yeah? 0:00:26.720 --> 0:00:28.920 My time is like my money because I can't afford 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:31.560 to waste. Oh why thee is alloyer? Take my date 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:34.280 to my dates or to stick by the plate synick 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:37.320 case pepsi case from my race at my pace clinic. 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:41.840 Brans Ois Snakes, Welcome back to another episode of Bucco Banter, 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:44.960 Episode three sixty seven, brought to you by Brave Bean 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:47.640 Coffey Company on the North Shore. Get a cup of 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:50.599 Joe and then hop over to PNC Park to hopefully 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:53.680 watch the Buckos win because there wasn't much of that 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:54.520 this weekend. 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:55.960 Myself Adam. 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:59.240 We got Jay producing the show and a new member 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:05.200 for the Monday Monday show, Mister Jimothy Stam, how you doing, buddy. 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:08.119 In the flesh, I'm doing good. Let me just send 0:01:08.120 --> 0:01:14.120 a shout out to all the dads today. Happy Father's Day. Yeah, 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:17.720 so dad's in baseball go way back. So I just 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:20.600 wanted to throw that out there for anybody that's doing 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:21.679 the dad thing today. 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:24.120 Happy Father's Day to you as well. 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:26.200 Before we move on with the show, what did your 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:28.920 family do for you today, jim in order to make 0:01:28.959 --> 0:01:31.520 it known that you are one of the best fathers 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:32.200 on planet Earth. 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:36.920 You know, it was just like any other day. We 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:40.000 were up at five point thirty to get to a 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:44.560 baseball field by seven am for an eight o'clock start, 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:48.760 and uh yeah, so we did some Primanni's afterwards, because 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:54.160 you know, dads get free sandwiches on Permanny's Father's Day. 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:57.040 And then there was another baseball game later today. So 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:00.600 I'm cooked. Man. I'd like to rely a little bit, 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:04.440 but you know I don't. I wouldn't trade it for anything, so. 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:07.040 Real quick, before we move on, you mentioned the Primanny's 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:08.680 free sandwich. How did they enforce that. 0:02:10.080 --> 0:02:12.760 You bring a human being with you? 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:15.200 You have to bring the human being with you, I. 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:18.080 Would assume, so I don't know how else they're going 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:20.239 to and then they just take your word for it. 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:23.680 So I suppose you could just pick up a small 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:27.600 child and take him to Primanny's if if it's worth 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:28.240 the charges. 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:31.959 Listen, I just got back from a small vacation on 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:33.840 the weekend. I got no food in my fridge. It's 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:36.400 the reason that I asked, so if you could drive 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:37.959 Ben over here real quick. 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:38.600 After the show. 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:39.639 Oh, he'd do it. 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:42.200 I need that. I know you would. He'd be more 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:44.160 than happy. But I need some grub man. 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:46.280 Or we could just rent a kid for his free sandwich, 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:49.480 which might be more problematic per producer Jay in the 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:52.600 chat here, So we'll move on from that subject. It 0:02:52.680 --> 0:02:55.680 was Father's Day weekend. The Bucko's got a w on 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:59.079 Sunday on Father's Day. However, the rest of the series 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:01.600 was not a the par with how they played today, 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:05.120 and they were still a lot to be concerned with 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:07.280 with today's game. I know the Bats got going a 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:10.600 little bit more, but same old, same old Jim with 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:13.440 the past couple of series where they get off to 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:16.760 a slow start at the offense, kind of dragging missing 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:20.040 O'neo Cruiz, missing Carr Griffin, and then just the. 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:22.119 Woes from the bullpen continuing. 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:25.120 And then on top of that, there's some more concerns 0:03:25.520 --> 0:03:29.480 that we'll get into with Paul Skeins, Tyler Callahan, people 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:31.760 just up in arms with Jake Mangham, which I have 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:33.400 some opinions about as well. 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:40.400 But let's start with Game one. They just kind of 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:42.720 go out there and drop an egg, and they did 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:43.600 the same in Game. 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:47.240 Two, Cornsfield. You perceived this team putting up numbers. They 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:48.040 just couldn't get it going. 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:51.600 Jim that could not and they wasted a good start 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:55.400 from Bubba like that. Those are the things it's like, 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:59.920 you know, not only are you kind of like blow 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:04.080 games because of the bullpen, what you're doing is essentially 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:07.200 just tossing a good start in the trash camp, you know. 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:11.280 And yeah, I hate to break it to people, you know, 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:16.880 everyone says wins don't matter anymore. Pitchers like wins, you know, 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:21.800 and Bubba's gone through his problems this year. So I 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:23.680 just thought that that was like one of the big 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:27.560 things in that game is Bubba course Field. He finally 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:32.560 has one of his best starts, and it's the first 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:35.760 game of the series. Why do we have to start 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:39.479 in a hole? Why are we zero in one before 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:42.800 the clock hits midnight on Friday night? 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:46.479 Right, Nine whiffs, forty seven percent fastball usage, which I 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:48.480 love because he kind of went away from the heavy 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:51.000 fastball usage the past couple of starts to kind of 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:52.960 get his bearings about him, and then he was able 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:55.400 to go back to it and be effective, which was 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:58.360 really nice to see. Nine whiffs, like I mentioned, gave 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:01.600 up the one home run, only one strikeout on the 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:03.560 day for Bubba, which I don't mind because he only 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:04.400 had two walks. 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:09.760 He only gave up six hits at course, and I remember, yeah. 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:11.640 You have to be able to pitch without striking out 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:16.520 guys sometimes, yes, And it's funny we mentioned that because 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:18.160 I was just talking to a friend of mine who 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:20.760 was shooting me some questions about the Pirates, and he 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:23.400 was asking like, hey, do I have concerns about the 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:26.640 starting pitching, like why aren't these guys going deeper into 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:27.440 games sometimes? 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:31.159 And I said, listen, guys at usually throw punches for 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:35.640 a living, that like to throw doors and put guys 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:37.880 on the bench. They're gonna have high pitch counts. They're 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:41.720 usually not going to go higher deeper into games, and 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:44.240 we need some of these guys to develop a little 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:46.880 bit more to be able to be those strikeout pitchers video, 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:50.440 but also to mix it up in order to get 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:52.599 the most out of every start. And I thought Bubba 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:54.719 did a really good job of that. And I know 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:58.160 the score is three to four loss on the Friday 0:05:58.200 --> 0:05:59.880 night game, but man, they didn't put those runs up 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:00.920 later on the game. 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:04.960 It was pretty much nothing the entire game. 0:06:05.040 --> 0:06:07.839 And then Montgomery comes in right when you think the 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:10.479 Buckos can put it away two thirds of an inning, 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:13.320 three hits to earn, falls behind in that count three 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:16.840 to one, and just puts a middle, middle pitch that 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:19.720 everybody in Major League Baseball is going to hit, and 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:22.400 the guy drove it into the gap. And that's all 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:25.200 she wrote there. The only offense you really had was 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:28.359 lou Valdez doubles. Triolo had a couple of hits. Here's 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:31.280 my main concern all series, Jim, I don't know if 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:33.320 you saw this the entire series. 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:35.880 The Pirates drew three walks offensively. 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:38.400 I did not see that three walks. 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:41.599 It was a walk per game. I think you gotta 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:43.600 get free bags. They did a really good job of 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:46.240 that early on in the year of working counts. Horowitz 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:48.560 has done a really good job the entire year. I 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:53.000 know O'Hearn has struggled as of late. Again some discourse 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:54.640 on that as well that we might get into. But 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:58.839 you're going against some of the worst pitchers, yeah, in 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:02.040 Major League Baseball, and Gano and Kyle Freelan, and they 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:04.200 just could not get it together. They continue to make 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:06.640 these guys look like they're saw young pitchers. 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:12.600 Was that the worst series of the year, Yes, I 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:17.760 think so, just based on opponent and starting pitching that 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:20.040 they threw at us, I think it was. 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:21.280 Yeah. 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:23.800 And I know we joked around about going into this 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:27.360 series what a start against Kyle Freelan may look like, 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:30.440 and it was just that a guy at seven plus 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:33.480 ERA and you make them look like Randy Johnson. 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:36.680 The guy had like a career high eight k's. I 0:07:36.680 --> 0:07:38.920 don't know when the last time he did that in 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:40.880 a game was and he's going into the seventh inning. 0:07:40.920 --> 0:07:43.240 It's just really, really bad. 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:45.480 And you could see how bad this Rockies team is 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:48.680 just from playing them, and you just kept them around 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:52.680 the entire time. It was Patrick Corbin all over again 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:56.400 for this team and really frustrating. Yeah, I would put 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:58.120 it up there with the worst series of the year man, 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:00.720 and in game two was even worse, and then talk 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:02.960 about even worse, they put up one run and then 0:08:03.000 --> 0:08:05.720 the way it ended was just mind numbing. 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:10.240 Okay, so yeah, here here, okay, so here's here's the clip, 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:14.440 and tell me what you're Were you watching it live 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:18.640 because I was not. I yeah, okay, tell me your 0:08:18.680 --> 0:08:23.440 reaction then, and tell me how you've processed it since. 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:28.880 My reaction was speechless because right when the play was over, 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:30.800 I looked down at my phone to go look at 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:32.840 some stats or like to go put out a word 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:34.920 on Bucko Banter. Then I looked up. I hear my 0:08:34.920 --> 0:08:38.600 girlfriend's family screaming. They're saying he's out. I'm like, what 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:39.520 are you talking about? 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:40.040 He's out. 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:42.320 There was no contact on the play. It looked like 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:44.800 Billy Cook was already past him. He ran in a 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:47.640 straight line. I could see if you know, he runs 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:48.960 into him and he interferes with him. 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:51.000 The guy's knocked on the ground, like, obviously you need 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:53.200 to allow him to make a play on the baseball. 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:55.440 But just from the naked eye, it didn't look like 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:56.440 anything right. 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:59.800 It looks like he's passing, then you sleep on it, 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:02.480 and then you see the videos later of what the 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:05.480 foot clipping the glove. It's like, yeah, I get it, 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:08.480 Like I understand that's the rule. I think they got 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:08.880 it right. 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:11.160 They did. They got it right. Do I like it? 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:11.360 No? 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:13.560 Absolutely not. And I know Jay wants to hop in here, 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:15.640 so allow him to make a comment. But they got 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:16.720 the call right. 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:19.920 But for a game to end like that, one sucks 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:22.319 and two score more than one run. 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:25.160 Maybe maybe maybe don't let it come down to something 0:09:25.480 --> 0:09:27.199 fluky right exactly? 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:28.480 Jay, Do you want to say something on this? 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:31.200 Yeah? I think definitionally they got the they got the 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:33.960 call right. But the take I initially thought was just like, 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:36.319 if he's able to steal feel the ball cleanly and 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:37.960 come up with it in a place where he's ready 0:09:37.960 --> 0:09:41.000 to throw, I think it's pretty difficult to call interference there, honestly. 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:44.240 And I think that he might have like the registered 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:46.680 it with him halfway through the play because I don't know. 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:50.800 That's just me and I mean obviously looking back on right, 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:53.400 because he did touch it. But that's just what I 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:54.760 was thinking, is that if he comes up with the 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:58.200 ball cleanly, and I think that's pretty difficult to swallow. 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:01.360 Right, now, did he did, did he go? Did it 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:03.880 go to review? Or was the call made on the field? 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:05.920 The call is made on the field, so. 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:09.120 And then and then and then nothing's reviewed, right because 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:10.840 reviewed discretion? 0:10:11.080 --> 0:10:14.520 Right, Yeah, so he goes, the play happens. They originally 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:17.880 call everybody safe. Then the third baseman starts putting his 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:20.600 hands on his ear freaking out, Rocky's coach comes out, 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:24.480 umpires get together, then they decide runners out, game over. 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:26.440 That's how it all went down, which was also really 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:29.439 frustrating to take on that type. 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:31.959 Of call because shouldn't it have been if you saw that, 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:34.440 then shouldn't have been called automatically? That would be my 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:37.480 gripe is that if it's there and it's clear and 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:39.800 you saw the contact, that's when it needs to be called, 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:42.960 not after the not after the dust settles. That's that 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:47.320 would be my actual gripe, because I do think they 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:50.040 probably buy the letter of the law, got it right. 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:53.360 But that sucks, Yeah, it does suck. 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:56.480 What sucks even more, you know, three for thirteen in 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:58.640 the first two games is runners in scoring position and 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:00.959 the only run that you score was the first batter 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:03.120 of the game. In Spencer Horwitz, which, by the way, 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:05.160 I think he's becoming one of the best leadoff guys 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:08.320 in all of baseball for not your stereotypical leadof hitter 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:09.120 or the guy Rakes. 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:13.439 I don't know if you saw this, but those two losses, 0:11:13.480 --> 0:11:16.160 did you see the stat from off the stats about 0:11:16.200 --> 0:11:19.520 the Pirate the first two games that they are the 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:22.880 only team in baseball in the last fifty years to 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:26.480 have the tying run on third with zero outs in 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:29.679 the ninth inning in two games in a row and 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:31.119 lose both games. 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:33.280 Yep, I did see that stat, Jim, and it made 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:35.280 me sad. It made me really sad. 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:38.520 It's actually almost impossible to do that. 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:41.320 Yeah, and it's like nothing seems to be going your way, 0:11:41.360 --> 0:11:43.400 and then in the ninth inning a guy boots a 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:45.800 ball or you get hit by a pitch, bases load, 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:49.040 it's like, oh my god, we're finally not cursed. Like, 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:51.920 look at this, the heavens are opening up. I can 0:11:51.960 --> 0:11:52.560 see the light. 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:54.440 And then it just shuts on you. 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:55.240 Yeah. 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:57.600 Oh times. Oh it's so demoralizing. 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:01.800 But again back to what I just said before, which is, 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:05.760 don't put yourself in these situations. Yeah, it's gonna happen 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:08.360 every once in a while. Just don't put yourself in 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:11.280 these situations against a team like that, and then you 0:12:11.320 --> 0:12:14.200 don't have to worry about it. You don't sweat something 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:18.000 out or feel you got screwed, you know. So that's 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:20.240 the that's the bigger issue. 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:23.600 To me right Just by the way, per producer Jay Spencer, 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:26.760 Horwitz has a higher w RC plus at one thirty 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:30.679 eight than the following NL first baseman Bryce Harper, Breddy Freeman, 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:35.160 Jonathan Ronda, Alec Burlson, and more Michael Bush and Alonso 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:37.960 as well. So the numbers speak for themselves. 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:41.000 I mean, obviously he passes the eye test at the plate, 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:42.839 but he's been that good. 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:45.040 He's he's all star caliber. 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:50.480 Right now, let's talk about Horowitz because I think right now, 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:53.719 with Griffin and Cruise out of the lineup, obviously you're 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:58.480 seeing some of the flaws with this team, especially at 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:00.880 the bottom end of the lineup. But the reliance on 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:04.760 guys like o'hearne, Lau and Horwitz by themselves is not 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:07.960 sustainable and people are freaking out right now. Even saw 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:11.719 somebody tweet O'Hearn was not worth the contract. One shut up. 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:18.160 That's just a silly, horrendous take take a seat, buddy. 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:21.080 He's been so good all year. Without O'Hearn, this team 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:25.439 maybe loses a handful of more games. Okay, guys are 0:13:25.440 --> 0:13:27.400 gonna slump in major league baseball. 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:28.280 I hate to break it to you. 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:32.360 These as good as major league hitters are, hittings the 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:35.280 hardest thing to do in professional sports. Guys are not 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:37.840 gonna do well. You can't rely on him every single 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:40.280 game to drive in runs. Last series he drove in 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:43.920 six in one game. Okay, so listen, he's gonna slump 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:45.600 a little bit. He hasn't put it together some good 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:48.200 at bats, and I know he wasn't clutched in what 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:50.480 games one and two here when they could have used him. 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:54.040 But you can't rely just solely on three guys to 0:13:54.120 --> 0:13:58.000 produce all of the slug and then just have essentially 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:02.000 zeros from like five to nine throughout the entire line. 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:04.200 But nobody else is hitting either. Jay makes a good point, 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:04.880 not just Ham. 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:08.800 Nobody else was hitting, okay, minus Brian Reynolds and Spencer Horwitz, 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:13.120 everybody's been pretty much flat, especially at course when you 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:14.679 know it's elevate to celebrate. 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:17.960 And Jimmy just like begsaqua. 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:22.640 Like, how important let's put oneal Cruz aside. How important 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:25.560 was the twenty year old Connor Griffin to this team? 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:28.800 Glad you I'm glad you mentioned that because I feel 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:31.480 like that's what they're missing the most right now. I 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:35.760 feel like that there is there is a burst of 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:40.800 energy and I don't want to be cheesy and call vibes, 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:45.200 but like when he he gives them juice, I think 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:47.560 it's in the field. I think it's as he was 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:51.120 starting to come on hitting. I'm hoping that because I 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:53.080 think we're close. Right he's supposed to go on a 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:58.800 rehab assignment. Sounds like everything's been positive. I think they 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:03.560 miss Connor g of him way more than I thought 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:04.680 they would at this point. 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:08.080 Yeah, all around, because one, he plays a really good shortstop, 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:12.000 then you don't have Jared Triolo every day in the lineup. 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:16.000 Also just the ability to make something happen at the 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:17.840 back end of the line because remember he really wasn't 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:19.120 at the top of the lineup for most of it. 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:21.080 He had a couple of games where he was at 0:15:21.120 --> 0:15:22.880 the top of the line but for the most part 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:25.760 five through nine and probably the best base runner on 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:26.520 the team as well. 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:28.119 Jay brings up a good point. 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:33.600 So it's so multifaceted with him, and so they're obviously 0:15:33.680 --> 0:15:37.800 going to get that piece back soon, I think. Obviously 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:41.600 I don't expect it to be a super long rehab assignment, 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:45.000 but hey, they want to make sure Arm's good and 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:47.280 be that he gets the at bats right. They're not 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:49.240 going to throw him right back in there against major 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:52.840 league pitching, but they have to. It's still a week 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:56.360 or two away, so they just have to figure out 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:59.320 a way to get going. You can't wait for the 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:02.120 twenty year old kid to come back to provide everything. 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:05.320 It's just not fair to him. And they've got enough 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:06.960 guys that should be able. 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:07.160 To do it. 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:10.080 Yeah, you should be able to do it. And I mentioned 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:11.560 it on the last show. You just need to stay 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:14.560 afloat right now. But this is a really good opportunity 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:18.080 this past couple of weeks in order to write the 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:21.040 ship and get above five hundred comfortably. 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:23.000 You had the Marlins come into town. I know they 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:24.960 were hot. They were eight and two out of the 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:27.920 last ten. They're playing good baseball, a winnable series. 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:28.960 Right. 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:32.160 You go to Sacramento, you get off to a slow start, 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:33.000 you win the series. 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:36.120 Good. Okay, it wasn't pretty at times, but good. 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:38.600 Then you go to Colorado and you kind of chalk 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:41.200 it up as like, hey, let's go in there, take 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:43.240 care of business, and leave, and then you don't do that, 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:45.760 and now it makes the next week all that more 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:48.480 important with a five hundred team and the Mariners coming 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:51.400 to town and then a division rival in the Red 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:55.680 to you know, both teams average right now, and you 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:57.320 should look at it, and you should look at the 0:16:57.400 --> 0:17:00.320 rosters and say, hey, this is something that we should 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:02.240 be able to take care of. But it just the 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:05.000 amount of weight that you're putting on yourselves going into 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:07.440 the All Star break and heading into the trade deadline, 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:12.560 it just becomes a little bit more difficult to pinpoint. 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:14.159 What this team really is and what they need to do. 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:16.560 Obviously, we know what they need to add in terms 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:19.680 of bullpen help in order to try and at least 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:23.119 fix that aspect of it, but it's a little bit 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:25.560 more difficult of a conversation of hey, is this team 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:28.760 good enough right now without these main pieces, And I 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:32.040 think the answer is no. Unfortunately, Like they might be 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:35.640 a good team, they're not a playoff team unless they're 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:37.240 able to kind of figure this stuff out. 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:40.440 Yeah, I think they need to get a couple pieces back. 0:17:41.480 --> 0:17:45.960 And then also too, there's a couple guys that do 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:48.640 need to get on track or that you need more 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:52.000 out of if quite frankly, you know, and there's the 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:54.600 ebb and flow of a season. Like you mentioned, slumps 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:58.280 are going to happen. But you know, O'Hearn now they 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:01.399 carried them. They carried this team early that has not 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:03.480 really been the case of late. I think we're going 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:05.720 to talk about Paul Skins at some point too, that 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:08.840 you know, what about this version of these guys and 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:10.800 what do we need more from them? 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:15.320 Right, let's talk about Skins because this year they're one 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:17.960 and ten. This season, when Skiings allows more than you 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:21.600 ready for this, as this is just such a task number. 0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:26.240 I'm ready. When Paul Skins the pitchers, Paul Skins allows 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:29.639 more than three hits? How dare he allows more than 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:31.639 three hits in a game? 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:33.760 You got to be kidding me, Like, guys are going 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:36.400 out there and throwing one hitters every day. When this 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:39.480 guy has the audacity to step on a Major league 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:42.840 mound and allow three hits, the Pirates are one in ten. 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:45.000 That almost doesn't seem possible. 0:18:45.520 --> 0:18:46.080 It doesn't. 0:18:46.160 --> 0:18:49.760 It's actually making me go a little bit crazy, Like 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:53.959 I feel like I'm getting like an aneurism here. They're 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:56.919 one in ten when he allows three or more hits 0:18:57.200 --> 0:19:01.000 and people are freaking out that he's not this god 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:02.359 of a baseball player one he is. 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:05.600 He is. He's Paul freaking Skins. He was Rookie of 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:06.680 the Year, he was cy Young. 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:09.640